Terron Armstead explains how Caleb Williams has 'taken ownership' of Bears

0:00Broadcasting live from the Hyundai Studios, presented to you in part by your local Hyundai dealers. This is Chicago's number one most listened to sports station. 1043 the score is Chicago Sports. Chicago Sports is 1043 the score. Always live on the free Odyssey app. WSCR. WSCR FM and HD1 Chicago in Odyssey Sports Station. The score! Let's take a look at that New Orleans offense. Toronto State University of Arkansas. Ed Fheimblow. The big left tackle, Toronto Armsted 65304. It's a triple figure. Following the Armsted Ram, a left side, Camaritan. Block play, Armsted, the open, the door. Toronto Armsted. He's one of the best in the national football league. Number 8 overall ranked offense and they've got two pro bowlers up front in their center max. Unger in their left tackle, Toronto Armsted. Right now, who is your number one player? Who's the top one for this year in the NFL? Who's the top one player? The top one hundred. Who's been cooking this year now? Toronto Armsted.

1:00No one player. Toronto Armsted. He's been one of the most important players here on offense. I know that Tyree Kale and Jeeland Waddle get a lot of attention. But it's been his stability at left tackle that has really helped this offense bring it together. I love slaggy spin. Oh yeah. I'm introducing Armsted every week. I am going to lose in two. Just fired. Been around a long time and he's still one of the best tackles in the game. What about him stands on the table? The US's table? Toronto Armsted. Listen, the Bears, I don't want to hype them up too much. I don't. But I like what they're doing. I like what they're building, the way that they're building it. It's fine. It's been great to see the Bears process from Lachor Training Camp to now. Speagle at home. Afternoons on the score. It is indeed the Speagle at home show Lawrence Holmes on vacation this week. So it's me Matt Speagle along with our guy Gabe Ramirez. Speaks in Gabe and with a chance now to welcome in that man.

2:00Tyron Armsted joining us on the score hotline brought to you by Potawatabi Casino hotel Midwest. Best Casino. Tyron thank you for the time. How are you today, sir? I'm all good. Man that intro was elite. Yeah, man. I need to still that that whole real from you guys. That was a crash. Shut up, Tanny. I'm not talking about Chris Tanny. Tanny if Tyron wanted to use it as part of his the set podcast. I mean, is that $7,000? $7,000. I'm going to go shit right here right now. Tyron. Man. That was nice. I appreciate you guys. Yeah, there's a lot of good stuff in there. We're not exactly sure which player that was, but at one point some player in his voting put you as the number one player in the entire NFL. That's pretty damn cool, man. I like that. Right, go after New Orleans, saying Caesar Ruiz. Shut up, my dog. There it is. There it is. He knows exactly what I know exactly who it was. That is amazing. Well, Tyron, we've really enjoyed your work.

3:01And, you know, it's on the set podcast, you've done an incredible job and you've talked to your former coach and one of your mentors, Dan Rochart, on there and it was so incredibly instructive. And now this feels very special to get to talk to you towards the end of a Bears training camp where you were there because you described to people the kind of access you had and the level of involvement you were able to have with the Bears at their training camp this month. Oh, absolutely. The access was incredible, man. I've never played for the Bears. Obviously didn't know a lot of these guys. I mean, Ben Johnson, first time meeting Ryan Paul. So it was pretty special to have the access and freedom to move around and build and then be in a staff room, be in the team, mean room, just being amongst these guys like close proximity. It was great. And Dan Rochart was a huge reason for several days, right? For four days. Is that right? Four days.

4:01Yeah. Three or four days. It was I was there for a good while. I was starting to get the training camp exhaustion. I was. Yeah. But it was it was great, man. I love the way that the Bears went about their business like truly in an age where you see so much of the data and analytics talk about these walkthroughs and these low days and how a lot of teams don't necessarily go through the old school grind that build part sales. So I had Sean Payton who come from Bill Parcell's tree and Andy Reed and the Bill Belitex like those the coaches that truly believe in getting catalyst and going after it competing against each other every day like it's a little bit of a different method in today's football from a lot of different teams. Not to say that it works or not. Ben Johnson old school, bro. Old school. We're going to put that work in.

5:02We will compete every day. We're going to be physical. We're going to be tough. We won't shy away from any moment. I, man, I'm a fan of that man like truly Ben Johnson having greater play. I like it. Some people feel like they could run through a wall form. Some of the fans feel that way too to run in those kinds of situations. You said, you know, obviously while you were there, you also got to watch Caleb Williams. And you said you want to see more boring football from Caleb Williams. Now us as a fan base, we just want to see the exciting stuff. So in your mind, what does a boring Caleb look like to you? Yeah, just that down and down operation, man, hitting the first read, throwing it to the open guy, two yards, four yards, seven yards, we'll take it. When we see the exciting plays, a wild plays, it's not by design. So we'd love to see. Let's get to the ball, diagnose what the defense is present. Take the ID, who's the mic, who were we slide into, who was the threat and protection?

6:07Let's call a play and get the ball out in time. Like the way that the play was drawn on paper, how often can we see that? That's not how it always works. Of course. And then you see the magic of Caleb Williams and he extend plays with his legs and his big arm running backwards, running this way, running that way. But we want those to be few and far between. So the exciting plays, the super big highlights. Just twice a game. If we can get that, I love it. Did you get enough to down? Boring. Let's keep it boring. Did you get a chance to see him interact with the O line, you're wondering, you know, you're doing getting a chance to see much of it last year. But like as these guys are evolving and Caleb here in year three and year two with Ben, this should be a quarterback with a little bit more of a sense of ownership along the way. With the 1000% he's taking ownership. He's taking the responsibility of getting everyone on the unit where they need to be handling

7:12protections, handling motions. Those guys spent a lot of time while I was there in camp, like through the periods and training camp where it's special team. So kick off, kick off return. Through my experience, Drew breeze will be somewhere on a knee or just talking to coach, you know, Sean Payne or whatever. And O line we'll be doing maybe a drill or we're down. But for Chicago, Caleb gets the O line and they go through plays that they go through protections and they go through these different slides and everything that's happening. So they're still in reps in times that we weren't still in reps in the world. It's like we wasn't going through this operation and really perfecting the craft. And I know that they're still young in this process and this system. So it makes a lot of sense. But I see I'm watching and walk through after a two and a half hour practice, walk through later in the afternoon. Soon as the offense finished their plays, Caleb grabs the O line, all right, let's go down to this end. Let's run these plays.

8:12Let's let's look at this bliss. Let's look at this protection. He's taking ownership, bro. So Ron Armstead is the host of the set podcast and at four days of full access at Bears Camp in team meetings working with for the offensive line on the field. So Karana Magaji and Jedrick Will's are no longer here. And the shift at your position left tackle was pretty dramatic there between the first and second of the preseason games and those guys are gone and it's Braxton Jones's job. What do you make of the process that the Bears went through to try and identify the starter and did they end up in the right place? It's tough, man. It's tough, especially when you spend time with Karana, spend time with Jed and Braxton, all those guys. I'm invested. I'm invested into them. Their careers, their production, you know, and it's tough and unfortunate that those two

9:17guys aren't in Chicago anymore. Like that's a great place to be. It's a great place to play. It's a great office to be a part of. I still feel very strongly in both of their abilities. Like I do feel that Karana can play NFL football and play NFL football that he would be happy about and be proud of. And for Jed, his story and his journey coming back from the injuries and traumatic significant injury that he had to his knee and the work that he's put in to get back on the field and be available for practice over and over. That's a win in itself. And Jed still has more time that it needs to really get back to fully being the Jed that was drafted in the first round. For Braxton, it's great to see him take ownership, but it's spot. It was never not his spot in my opinion. Like I always feel Braxton was the favorite and should be the one to close the competition. Now it's time for Braxton to really step into his own and let's see him play some dominant

10:21football and consistent football down after down week after week. And again, I invested in these guys and their growth development and their success. I want to see Braxton be the best version of himself this year. Teran, what is that gap? Right? Because you're talking about not just Braxton, a guy who's going to be on the team or a Theo Benedict, but we're also talking about and speaking highly of two individuals that are not. Right? And so there has to be a gap there and you obviously play in the position at the highest level. I'm sure you could have pinpointed some things that you probably said to yourself, if these guys did this better than they wouldn't be in the position that they were, what is that gap for you? Is this still for guys like Braxton Jones? Great question, Gabe. It is. It's such a NFL is, it's a difficult space to navigate because even though you have talent, have ability and even even a team recognized that you do, like you can play, you can do

11:23this and like, we love to have you and keep developing you. It's such a few spots. Like truly is only the roster, the way that NFL roster is constructed is only space for seven of you guys eight at the most. We got to have a backup center. We got to have backup guard. We got to have a tackle that can play both sides like we have to have these pieces. So you might be better at a spot, but this guy might have more versatility. So he beat you out in that case. That's around the league. Like you see guys that just don't get that opportunity at that place, go somewhere else. And now boom, it happens for them. That's the, that's the part of NFL like for Karan and Jair to continue to work, continue to grind and continue to put your best foot forward that this might not be the spot, but it's not the last stop. It's 31 other teams. And as they're trying to put these pieces together, who can do what for this team with the

12:24most efficiency, it's difficult, man. It's really hard to navigate the NFL roster. Talking to Ron Armstad here on the Spiegel and Holmes show. Darnel Wright got new paper. So they taking care of Darnel. I love it. You love it. You love it? Like what does he have to work on day to get even better than what he is and why does he deserve it? I love Darnel, man. I was there, right? When the news broke, he signed his, he signed his deal. He didn't say anything. We see it. It comes up on the phone and we bring it up, but he's like, we got practice in our, like it was really not that nothing crazy to him. It didn't shake up his world, which tells me like he plays the game out of the love of it. I love that. For him, I love that for the Bears. I love that for everything that he's doing is about to do. For him and his development, Darnel has, it's crazy to think about.

13:29This man was all pro last year, but he has so much room for growth. There's so many more tools he's going to add to his toolbox and these things will only come through time and experience. So we will see Darnel continue to grow, continue to evolve as a player, continue to be more vocal as a leader, as he goes and moves forward. Now you get that big paycheck, his responsibility to come with that too. Not only production, but you're looked at as one of these pillars of this franchise. Now you got to bring up the guys along. You got to be someone that wears this logo, not just on game day. You got to, you got to wear this logo and push this, push this franchise forward. Because he's willing and ready for that task as well and add knows extra dynamics to Darnel, that extra responsibility is going to help us on the field, production even more because he's still learning, still growing and now he has more responsibility.

14:30He's being asked to do more and is going to be, is going to be great for him. I can't wait. Yeah. I mean, you're looking at him. We love having him here. Obviously we love what he's, how he shorted up this offensive line with the Chicago Bears. It was Caricell of bodies, Tarrana at one point. And now you get Darnel there. As you mentioned it, right? He anchors it, gets to bring people along with him. And, you know, we love the fact that he's blocking for our guy, Caleb Williams, QB1 under center. And you actually said that blocking for Caleb would be fun, but stressful. Well, what's the fun part and what's the stressful part for you when you're thinking about blocking for Caleb Williams? Yeah, it'd be fun because you see his, his, his movement ability. When I first saw Caleb, like on an NFL field, that's when I, and he took off, I had no idea how fast he was. I saw him running college, but like, it's kind of hard to gauge what college player that he is chasing him. In the NFL, I know D. Lyman that can run you down that has chased down the Lamar Jackson in the world. So when I think Caleb run, I'm like, oh my God, he's blazing.

15:34Like, it's different. He's not just fast for a quarterback. This man is fast. So that part will be fun having a quarterback that's really mobile. My two quarterbacks drew breeze and two of tongue of a lower. They weren't scramblers. Like, they weren't real mobile guys. So that would be fun. Now the stressful part is I never know where this man will be in the pocket. No, he, him in that mobility, he could be running over here by my guy. And now my dude is, he's touching them and getting sacks on it. I don't like that. That that stresses me. He's all the sense of the world. Not on my watch. You know, say in my quarterback, I'm a, stay your ass right there, Caleb, because I'm a block for you. But only right here. Don't run over. You stay in this spot. I got you. I got you. Stay right here. Hey, Ron, do you want to chance to scout the defensive line a little bit? You met with the defensive line coaches to share thoughts. Anybody, who should we be looking for? If anybody to make an impact on a D line that, you know, we're looking for somebody to

16:34step up on that D line. Yeah, yeah, we'll be a huge thing for the Chicago Bears as a whole. Like if that D line really could step up and take a leap and generate a lot of pressure for opposing quarterbacks, we'll really shape this team up out to be, to be great. There's a young guy on the D line, number 96. I know his name now, but when I talked about him on my show, I didn't want to butcher his name. So I didn't say a name. And I went through the comments and everybody in the comments, all the Bears fans was like, yeah. So as he's young, I'm not going to say his name still. Jordan Vanderburgers. I'll say it for you. Jordan Vanderburgers. We know his name, but I'm not going to say. I'm going to say it for you. I got listeners to Ron. Come on. No, no, no. We won't let him make his play. His play will make people say his name. So once he get out there in real live action, and I do feel like he's going to out the

17:39gate, be somebody that we pay attention to because time and time again, I kept seeing his number, kept seeing his number, didn't know his name kept seeing his number. I think he's going to, he's going to flash early and people start to say his name and I will as well. But you see, you see a motor, you see him slithering in between line. Strong. Relentless, bro, like nonstop. I'm here to kill you and he was going to get teammates and he was just going after it. And they were, he would win a rep. Loser rep didn't matter. Same intent and that's to be just physical, aggressive, violent. I like how he played. Really? I had no idea. I knew nothing about the key when I got there. Nothing. But just watching practice. I'm like, man, his guy keeps showing up. 96 keeps showing up. All right, all right. Yeah, I'm paying attention. Wow. That's that's pretty cool. Was there any part of you that was coaching and felt like I could still play a little

18:40bit? I could, I could still go like, get out of the way, Karan. Let me, let me, let me step in there. I'll show you how to do it. Yeah, Mr. Roachar. Can you come over here? I want to talk to you for a second. Yeah. Oh, no, not at all. Okay. Have you ever seen my tear sweat up close? That's funny. No, I don't want to, no, I don't want no smoke, man. I don't want no parts of none of that. I'm good where I'm at. I thought the couple years ago when the Bears got Jason Peters, we had just seen him on NFL network with Nate Burleson. And here's Nate, listen to this. This is Nate Burleson and Jason Peters talking about coming off the fishing boat and gotten back onto the back onto the offensive line for an NFL team. Jason Peters still has a lot more football left in his career. I don't know about a whole lot. So him saying, I don't know about a whole lot is one of my favorite things, Karan. So you got, you got even less than Jason thought he had, huh?

19:42Yeah, I got a lot less than not a whole lot. I'm done, man. Sounds good. I'm good. Yeah, I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. It's fun though. And as I'm on the field, like being back at training camp with those guys and I'm like demonstrating certain movements or like technique of what I would do here, that gets you going, that gets you, it gets you kind of kind of riled up or you watching them do one on one's and that used to do it for me. Well, how about coaching? You like the pod too much? Or could you see yourself sliding in as a coach? Shout out to every coach in the NFL, man, I don't know how y'all do it. Shout out to you. That's what he's doing in life right now. That's very clear. I'm happy. Okay. I was there for four days and I kept checking my flight time because I was tired. Man, I'm looking at these, these guys, they go after it, man. Shout out to, like literally, like seriously, shout out to these NFL coaches.

20:46Every week they leave no stone unturned, like in preparation. And they check all these boxes, they watch all these blitzes and special plays and they don't sleep, they don't see their family. Then they go out and lose by 26. And then they go back and do the same thing. Pulling invest all that time and energy, winter, lose, shout out to them coaches, man. To write, I understand this was fun as hell, man. We appreciate you and we'll be watching and, man, it should be fun. This ought to be a very effective offense, don't you think? I think it'll be a great year, man. Great year. I'm praying for health and safety of all the players around the league. I'm rooting for the Chicago Bears. I really am. I would love to see their success, their growth. People got a lot to say about them, a lot of hate that they get. I don't really understand it. It's funny, but I'm advocating for the Bears, I'm pulling form and I appreciate you guys

21:48for having me on the show. You got them always. Thank you, Teran. I'm going to send you the open. I'm going to send you Chris Tannen. I'm going to send you $7,000. Don't forget. You send us $7,000. I like that number. Peace. Tannen, you know what? Yeah, look, you do. I know how much Tannen eats. How much does that, how much does that $7,000 goes to Tannen? You think? All of it. It's $6,200. $6,400. I'll take $6,100. What, just you? Because you set the price? It was. If I got you $6,400, give me $6,000. Look, I would just give it all to you and put it on one of those apps you were showing me over here. Just let it rise. You know what I mean? You can't make that public if you're missing. Wait a minute. I said, I said, we're kind of happy. You happy? Last time gave you and I worked together. The World Cup was going on. You just see my app right now. You were crushing it. You just see my app right now. Really? You're doing amazing things. I love the app. What sports do you like? Baseball. I'm in on baseball. Walks over. Get the over on the walks. You found a way, huh? That's what I've been doing. Guff yesterday told me he was big on Dylan C's last night.

22:50That's a way. Stay away from that. You would know he was big on the over of Cubs and Brewers and that came in. That's a good one. Yeah. So you got to give us some tips. I just try to stay away from like big players. Like Dylan C's don't even care about him. Give me, give me, give me Reed Deppmer's walks on the over. Like give me, give me. I'm deep. I'm deep. I'm deep. You're deep. You are sick. Twisted. My wife loves it. All dinner's paid for. With draw, baby. That's all I do. With draw. Every week, every couple days here for those of you that gamble. He gave us wearing the Frank Thomas and just hit you with a sure like and two baseball. The Jersey bought him a gambling money. Yeah, careful. Campbell Frank's going to sue you. You keep wearing that thing around here. Frank Thomas and I got into it one time on NBC Sports Talk Live. Let's go. Now mind you, he's my hero. Hero. I thought I was putter. Frank Thomas growing up low fat kid. Thought I was the big hurt. We're sitting there on NBC Sports Talk. We're sitting there on NBC Sports Talk Live. And I'm like, I'm talking about, I can't remember with the picture who I think you might have been seized. We were talking about a picture coming up at the end of the season.

23:52And I was like, get him in. Let him play now. Who cares? Let him pitch in. And he's like, no, you want to sit in. He's like crushed my soul on NBC Sports. He's like, absolutely not. You do not want to do that. You want to know. And I was looking out like, oh, frown. You, bro. I love you, man. I'm not here, but I'm wearing his jersey anyways because I love Frank Thomas. There you go. Oh, good. I'm representing. I got to take a look at his app. I'm taking a look at his app right there. He's Gabriel Mera's, I'm Matt Spiegel. It is 104-3, the score. Brad Biggs talks football with the morning show and did so this morning and gave you the state of the secondary. Let's listen to that next. The score is celebrating the start of football season with Miller Light and Circus Sports on Thursday, September 10th. The day starts at 10 a.m. with Rahimi and Grote. Live from Cody's public house in Lakeview until 2 p.m. Then from 2 to 6, it's the Spiegel and Homes Show. Live from Timothy O'Toole's and Streeterville to Live broadcasts. Kicking off the start of football season on Chicago's Sports Radio 104-3, the score.

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