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I'm strong and getty.

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Meantime, the Wall Street Journal reports the Pentagon is considering sending an additional 10,000 troops to the region.

That's in addition to the 1500 pair of troopers from the 82nd Airborne to be mobilized for the war.

It's not clear which division the troops are be drawn from.

Yeah, I don't know what that brings the total number two that's being sent there.

But we're definitely getting more boots that can be on the ground in the area.

And this conflict certainly has the potential to become the biggest story of our lives.

Jack and I both amazed at how little attention is being paid by a lot of media.

But there's a discussion for another moment.

Right now, let's talk to military analyst Mike Lyons, who joins us.

Mike, hello. How are you?

Hey, good morning, guys. Good to be back.

As boots get closer to the ground, what are your concerns?

You know, I still want to keep the air war going, the air campaign going.

I don't think we've hit enough targets. I guess over 10,000.

But there's still lots of military targets, lots of targets of opportunities to go after.

And continue to use that as a way to degrade and to put pressure on this regime to try to get them to a point where they'll agree to something reasonable.

You can see what they've put out so far. It's completely unreasonable.

I know we're working with cops, 15 point plan, which resembles what they did in Gaza.

But there's no such thing as a 15 point successful peace plan anywhere.

So again, I have no problem keeping the military aspects going.

But there will likely be soldiers at some point that will have to be deployed for a couple of different reasons.

One, to get the half-ton of depleted or enriched regime out of there.

And perhaps make it a show of force to make sure that we have some visible signs of victory.

Based on what you've read and heard, how likely do you think it is we'll take a shot at taking Carr Island?

Well, that would be the easiest way for this administration to get a visual on what's going on.

But I do think that there's IRGC units dug in there. It's heavily defended.

I don't think we'll go there anytime soon. In fact, we could continue to bomb it for three more weeks or so.

And I don't see the Marines launching a D-Day type invasion there. I don't see that.

I think if we do, it's Army Rangers and Delta kind of occupying.

If you remember, back Mogadishu, kind of fast-roping, I think that's the aerosol to airborne way to do that from a military perspective.

I'm getting a little bit inside baseball here. But I think it would be important.

And I think, you know, look, we're really good at fighting wars, right?

The United States is great at fighting wars, but we've not been really good at waging wars.

And doing something like that, taking Carr Island and taking over Iran's oriental refineries would be a good way to wage war.

That would be the kind of thing that would make a real difference.

Now, I know a lot of people would be screaming about war crimes and civilians and so many other things.

But this is what waging wars all about. This would cause what should say is how a country has to expect if it wants to win.

If we just want to, again, while we're in overcane and not do what we did for the past two conflicts, then we'll get nothing done.

But this administration is not interested in doing that.

So you brought up that whole idea of securing nuclear material.

That seems like a heck of a job to me.

I mean, they're going to have to go to these areas that we just bombed the bejesus out of and get some dump trucks and some back hose and start digging it while protecting it.

I mean, what's that going to look like?

Yeah, no, I don't know. It's going to take intel first from Israel that will likely know where it's stored to find out where it is and then find out how difficult it's going to be to extract.

Is it underground? Is it been encased already and tuned in some cases?

So whether that mission's plausible or not, that would be, you know, we want to get to IMEA, the international community involved with that mission if that's possible.

But you're not putting that, you know, on the back of a special forces helicopter and getting in and getting out and doing that mission.

That's a long, you know, really difficult engineering problem set to solve.

And I think the, you know, probably solved after the conflict is officially over on some level.

But that would be another one of those signs that the president could point to and say this is why we're victorious.

Yeah, and one more note, I've heard that it is extremely dangerous and volatile stuff to deal with as you might expect, you're finding uranium.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, the protection alone of the forces would be overwhelming, exactly.

Hey, Mike, another discussion we've had a number of times on the show is that how in the TikTok world, everybody expects things to be wrapped up within 72 hours or they think, you know, it's gone wrong.

Talk to us as a veteran of combat in a student military history.

Where are we timeline wise in a very significant and I would argue important more?

Yeah, I mean, yeah, the fallacy of a short war is that thing we've seen in this century, the last century based on desert storm about how fast that happened.

But that was just the ground aspect of it. What's forgotten or the 37 or 38 days of the air pounding that took place and we still had to send ground troops in order to kind of clean that up.

And in this case, you know, we had four times the amount of air sorties that were flued during desert storm there.

We're still doing a lot here, but from the grand scheme of things, I think it lulled Vladimir Putin, for example, until false sense of security thinking he was going to take Ukraine very quickly.

Just he forgot to figure out how to take his forces and multiply them and combine them, but that's another thing.

But in the grand scheme of things, fast wars just don't happen and they're not easily resolved.

And desert storm was an unfortunate example of when it did happen that a lot of people point to and say, why can't we do something similar there?

Which is why again, this goes on for many months and this administration I'm sure will protect its forces.

I think the number they have on their board right now is 13.

You know, how many KIA at this point and the objectives to keep that low?

Again, to me, you think back when we were doing Vietnam, we were sending 150 bodies and body bags back every week and no one blinked an eye about it.

So again, protection of the force is going to be important, but we could still see this conflict go for a month.

So they talked about that clip we played 10,000 more troops being sent over there to join up with 1,500 disser that.

Do you expect that number to go way up?

I mean, the reporting today from all the sources that are really trust is Trump has held bent on.

We're going to pound them until they surrender or we're going to take what we want.

We're just going to take it from them.

Is that going to take like a really big number of troops? Should we be prepared for that?

No, I think that's where again, not sending large formations, not saying the first armored division, 300 main battle tanks, 1240 brads.

We're not sending the logistics that goes with that.

The tail of that kind of operation is just unsustainable and there's really no way to get it there at this point.

The light infantry units will go 10th mountain division, for example.

That's not in the rubber deployment force with the 82nd arrangers delta, those guys that move fast.

But that's another division that can kind of get in there and get out.

There's an airborne unit in Alaska that can probably go.

They're just looking for, again, getting troops in there, low logistics that can sustain themselves, don't need lots of things to go with them.

Take control of something and then hold it for a certain period of time.

Again, go back to if we decide to take the refineries, which I think would be a tremendous military target right now.

I think hopefully they're working on that.

I think that cripples Iran, takes their ability to generate revenue and puts the United States of control of that oil resource.

Now, again, the world's going to scream, the imperialist Americans are doing it again, but that's the way to get this war to stop.

That's waging war against the country, not just fighting it.

My final question is when you look at Iran's defense forces, have you heard of or seen any signs that there might be cracks in the loyalty or serious breakdowns in command and control?

No, and have seen us go after a bus siege target, which surprised me.

I thought that you were going to see it there.

I'd read previous incidents that the besiege would have somewhat turned against the IRGC because they were conflicting each other.

It's kind of like big brother, a little brother within the country, but it doesn't look like that's happening.

It's like that the besiege is still well aligned with the IRGC.

The besiege is local police, DHS, not true military forces, but having control of the security.

They're the ones that are killing the civilians right now that are protesting and they've become a target.

So that's been disappointing, but haven't seen the breakdown yet.

Again, they've been dug in for 47 years.

They've been planning for this for 47 years, and the IRGC is just not going away anytime yet.

We're not at the level where someone finally says enough is enough.

Again, because we haven't waged war, we've just continued to fight.

Mike, just fantastic.

Best analysis I've heard anywhere, and we sure appreciate the time and the energy you put into it.

Thanks.

Great guys. Thanks for having me.

Yeah, that whole wage war versus fight war.

I'm going to have to spend more time looking into all that. That's really interesting.

Seriously, Mike's analysis is so much better than anything else you hear.

Oh, it's so good.

Well, I have no military background and only what I've read about wars.

I do know something about the media, though.

I'm looking up at the headlines on what is that?

Good morning, America.

Stocks plunge oil rises on Iran warfare fears, which is true enough, but the drumbeat of that sort of thing

has there ever been in the history of the world.

A country go to war and your media or maybe in the pre-media era, I don't even know who you'd be talking about.

I don't know, village elders or whatever.

Bad mouthing, bad mouthing, their own efforts and exaggerating, making positive things look like a failure.

I mean, has that ever happened?

I don't know if it has ever happened.

Honest God in history of the world, including if you got an Indian tribe going over to fight the next tribe on the other side of the hill

and everybody's standing around saying, oh, yeah, it's going horrible.

As you can see, food is getting scarce, so it's a disaster.

When all the facts on the ground are, it's going fairly well.

Everything is clickbait and or narrative reinforcement, which is clickbait.

Everything is clickbait in media.

We really try to avoid that.

It's probably a strategic mistake, but we're too stubborn to change.

We're sure interesting culturally.

Yeah.

And sometimes it probably wasn't good.

What the Brits were doing in the bore war wasn't, wasn't the greatest thing in the world or, you know, God help you.

Who was it?

I didn't pay attention to the bore war, you know?

I do boring.

Belgium and what they did to King Leopold.

I mean, look into that sometime.

But their own media wouldn't have been reporting that because they weren't allowed to, which is probably isn't good.

But regardless, I don't know if it's ever happened.

Where a country's gone to war and you have media at home giving you the worst case scenario as a drumbeat.

So I'm looking at the markets right now.

And the S&P was down about one and a quarter percent.

It's now bounced back to desi being down three quarters of a percent.

And the NASDAQ is down about one percent having also bounced back.

So the idea that you would go with as a responsible news organization.

It's not a lunge.

Right.

Exactly.

That you would use that vervages hilarious.

It's clickbait period.

Although it does affect people's minds and their hearts and attitudes about what we're up to as a country.

Well, if you had a really good media and, you know, you can't expect this, but they would give you some context.

A point, a percentage and a half drop in the stock market in one day doesn't mean a freaking thing.

It means zero.

There's so many factors that go into a percentage up or down for one day to draw any analysis from that is insane.

Unless you just had on your calendar, I'm going to cash out all of my investments to retire on this day.

Well, number one, you need a better financial advisor.

Right.

Right.

Better media.

Yeah, that's something.

Anyway, any thoughts on any of that?

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The Dodgers.

LA is trying to win their third straight world series.

Dodgers right now are kind of like the Chicago Bulls from the 90s,

except they have three Michael Jordan's and they're all Japanese.

I don't know if you saw any of the clips of Savannah Guthrie did

an interview for the first time.

The interesting thing to me was,

she's going to return to the today show April 6th.

So next Friday.

I didn't think she'd ever come back.

After that, I don't know if I could.

She's blaming herself for her moms.

Yeah, that's too bad.

Well, her fame, I guess.

That's too bad.

Yeah.

Yeah, I have no idea how I would process that and what I would do,

you know, two months later.

Completely different topic.

They found a second sphinx buried under the sand in Egypt.

You know, the sphinx.

The big old lion with a Pharaoh's head or whatever that thing is,

the snake tailor.

Napoleon blew the nose off of it.

That's why it looks like that.

Thanks Napoleon, you jackass.

Couldn't you jackass?

Anyway, they found another one buried under the sand,

suggesting a mega structure of many pyramids and sphinxes

that might exist under the sand still.

I would have thought we'd had some sort of x-ray technology

or something where we could have figured that out by now.

Yeah, you're good.

Yeah, given all the antipodes and riches and everything.

On the other hand, maybe the Pharaoh just had a Bogo coupon.

Buy one, get one, buy one's finks, get one free.

Who knows?

Jimmy, this finks maker was, yeah, struggling for business.

So started sending out coupons.

Think about all the slaves whose entire lives were toiling

in the hot sun to build those things.

Put the ones finks up there and just bury the other one

and we'll grab it when we need it.

Well, I'll remember it's there.

That's how it went.

Some sort of super giant complex though.

Oh, that would be amazing.

This is what I was saying a couple of weeks ago.

Not to drag the Iran war back into this.

But if the Middle East became like Europe,

God, there's a lot of great tourist destinations there.

No, I might just move there for a year, maybe two.

Check out all this toy stuff.

Yeah.

Um, mentioned Trump's going to put his signature on the money.

Usually the Secretary of Treasury sends all the money

but it's going to be Trump's signature.

And then there's also a gold coin coming out with his face on it.

I heard that on MS now.

Is that true?

I didn't hear that anywhere else.

People on currency.

Is that a real rule or did you?

That's the Joe Getty rule.

That's my rule.

No, I think it's federal law.

Okay.

But I can't be sure.

I mean, it's the sort of thing you learn as a year old.

Not sure.

I care.

I know.

I don't rank these up to the level of caring.

So these sorts of Trump's self-aggrandizement

is already so far beyond my comprehension and ability to believe it.

That's one more thing would just be one more thing.

But does he feel like putting his name on the Kennedy Arts Center,

the Trump Kennedy Arts Center or whatever is going to last past the first democratic administration?

I have no idea how he thinks about these things.

It seems nuts to me for reasons like that.

Yeah.

But again, I don't care.

Either way.

Not on my list.

What is that thing you're going to tell us coming up?

I love this.

Oh, it's absolutely great.

It's a psychotherapist who says he's talking about the next No Kings rally.

I had no idea.

One was happening.

I guess it's happening tomorrow.

Okay.

No Kings.

Politics is bad group therapy.

Politics has become ineffective bad group therapy.

And he explains why it's very insightful.

There will be a No Kings rally while we're trying to get rid of a king in Iran

and you're complaining about it.

Okay.

A king who behaves just like the handmaid's tail.

Rest.

Anyway.

Yeah.

It's as if you people are idiots.

And the mindset of people who go to rallies and protests.

So, you know, I look forward to talking about that.

And a whole bunch of other stuff that we get coming up on the show.

Michael, do we still have that old clip?

Quit being an idiot.

That was one of my favorite favorites.

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It doesn't make any sense to have a swimmer who was the 470-second ranked swimmer

when he was a man at Penn.

Either winning or coming close to winning against women a year and a half after transitioning.

If that's what the person wants to do,

that person should be treated with dignity and respect.

But there ought to be common sense and common sense is not transphobic.

Well, that's Bob Costas who I think is an amazing announcer

and one of the greatest interviews you viewers in history.

But if you follow Bob Costas,

he got very political in the last several years.

Where was that while this was happening?

When that Penn swimmer was beating all the girls

and where were you then, Bob Costas?

He didn't have the nerve to say that.

Now he says it with obviously we all agree on this.

That's nuts.

Sort of.

Yeah.

I didn't realize he was passive while it was happening when we were yelling about it.

But anyway, Bob is actually reacting to the announcement from the IOC

and here's the IOC, the International Olympic Committee.

They're President Kirstie Coventry.

The policy that we have announced is based on science

and it has been led by medical experts

with the based interests of athletes at its heart.

The scientific evidence is very clear.

Male chromosomes give performance advantages

and sports that rely on strength, power or endurance.

At the Olympic Games, even the smallest margins

can be the difference between victory and defeat.

So it's absolutely clear that it would not be fair

for biological males to compete in the female category.

In addition, in some sports, it would simply not be safe.

Can you imagine reviving perhaps a loved one

who passed away 15 years ago?

Right.

And they would hear that and they would say,

they're talking about men playing in women's sports.

Why is she answering a question nobody's ever asked?

And why is she so wordy?

The answer is no, men can't play in women's sports.

We're through here.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It is so astonishing.

And in some cases, it would be dangerous.

You mean like when that dude beat the crap out of the girls

and the boxing to the point that some of them quit halfway through

like I'm going to get killed out here?

That way, even in non-combat sports,

like basketball, volleyball, terrible injuries to young women

and grown women as well.

Yeah.

It's absolutely bizarre.

It shows how quickly a social contagion can infect people

and make them say and do things that are just insane.

Anyway, speaking of progressive attitudes, good for the IOC,

a little late to the party, but thanks for coming anyway.

Speaking of the left's attitudes,

apparently there's going to be another No Kings demonstration

or a bunch of them against kings.

Very good.

Great.

Me too.

All across the country, tomorrow in Jonathan Alpert,

who is not only a practicing psychotherapist,

but he is writing, he's about to release a book on how bad a lot of psychotherapy is,

something that'll be near and dear to your heart, Jack.

I'm sure.

And he, he describes, he's written a piece.

Excuse me.

My goodness, allergies are bad this time here.

Or he's writing a piece.

I could be, well, we're all dying slowly from time.

Anyway, he says, after No Kings Rally last October,

I was walking through the area in Postery, the science.

A woman asked me, aren't these great?

And I said, I don't know.

I actually like some of Trump's policies.

Well, F you that.

She shout.

Then he gets into the whole No Kings Rally and given our history,

I mean, it's a strike and claim that we're living under one or about two or something.

But he says, still it's revealing.

It reflects a broader shift in how political disagreement is understood,

not as a clash of views, but as a struggle between victims and villains.

Then he describes how the US is what has always been a contentious,

often frustrated democracy with competing interests and imperfect relationship,

but describing it in more dramatic terms raises the emotional stakes.

It transforms ordinary political conflict into something more absolute

and more psychologically satisfying.

He says, in my work as a psychotherapist, I've seen a parallel change in how people interpret their personal lives.

Feelings are increasingly treated not as signals to examine,

but as conclusions to affirm.

And I think we're kind of all familiar.

We've heard that verbage about how you can't deny my feelings,

or I've got to trust my feelings and all when feelings are often wildly misleading.

There's the last thing you should trust.

Anyway, not you shouldn't ignore them, but they should not dictate your life.

Anyway, discomfort is no longer something to work through,

but something to explain, often by projecting blame onto an external source.

This mindset didn't stay in the therapy room.

It has begun to shape political life,

and the No Kings rallies offer a framework that supports,

that favors affirmation over scrutiny,

a clean moral narrative in which there are those who are wronged

and those responsible for the wrongdoing.

At their core, the rallies resemble bad group therapy,

gatherings that offer validation, solidarity, and emotional release.

They feel good in the moment.

Participants vent, find reinforcement among like-minded people,

and leave feeling erred and aligned.

The experience can seem productive, even clarifying,

but like bad group therapy, it stops at validation.

The feelings are processed, but not challenged, reinforced, but not examined.

There is relief, but little resolution, and the underlying problems remain.

It offers the feelings of progress without the substance of it.

Yeah, but there's got to be a personality type that's susceptible to that,

and it runs one direction politically.

Because otherwise, you would think it would be happening exactly the same on the right,

with a certain kind of person who get their feelings validated

and enjoy seeing, well, there's a whole bunch of people that agree with me

and all that sort of stuff.

But it does it.

It exists on the right, but it's a much, much smaller scale.

I think a lot of the Trump rallies are that.

But it's tiny compared to some of this stuff.

Yeah, I don't know, but it's so outside of a Trump rally

where it's around the personality that is the president.

Sure.

You know, an issue rally on the right?

Well, there have been very few of those in my lifetime that have had any of them.

And I only became aware of this because I have a friend.

Really good, dude.

Him and his wife, fantastic.

Great kids, blah, blah, blah, all that sort of stuff.

But they apparently go to every rally that exists.

And the first time I became aware of it, remember, is years ago,

and he said, I see it the rally tomorrow.

And I was like, I don't know anything about any rally.

No, I'm going to be doing something that I had to look it up.

There was some rally going on in our town that I was completely unaware of.

But it's just like, of course, you know, that's what we're all doing tomorrow.

We're all going to be at the rally.

And then I became aware that, yeah, that's, that's what you do.

Every what you, I don't know what email thing you get on,

where you get the alert all the time, but you go to them all.

Wow.

Just what you do.

You were present in your question about personality types.

You tend to lean left.

The good doctor writes on the composition of these rallies helps,

helps explain part of their dynamic.

According to a survey conducted at no Kings rally in the district of Columbia,

a tendee skew heavily towards highly educated,

left leaning white women in their 40s.

You probably don't have kids, so they have time to go to a rally

because they're not at the little league game or trying to get some sleep

after a long week or whatever else.

And this demographic stands at the forefront of the broader shift

towards therapeutic language, in which emotional experiences elevated,

validated and often treated as a kind of truth in itself.

Many learn about the rallies through social networks,

where political views and identity are intertwined.

You know, unless fancy language, I remember being amused

and appreciating the thought expressed to us many, many years ago,

just because you're mad doesn't mean you're right.

Or just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right.

And what the good doctor is writing about here is the attitude that

being offended is proof that I should be offended.

You don't examine these feelings or question them or challenge them.

You merely affirm them.

Proof that I'm offended.

Proof that I should be offended is that I am offended,

which turns psychotherapy on its head.

We have a family, Katie.

Any thoughts on this based on the folks you've run into?

I mean, the folks that I've run into that go to these things

use them as like a party scene though.

I mean, I had a social event.

Yeah.

Yeah, and you know, they'd stop at the gas station and grab their tall cans

beforehand and head out to San Francisco.

And it turned into, you know, yeah.

And which side are you on?

Which side are you on?

That was it.

So it's either young people without kids or old hippies whose kids are grown.

I just can't believe that if you got children, there's a percentage

that's very many of the people.

Yeah, none of them had kids at this time.

Still don't, actually.

Yeah, it's interesting.

This is, you know, it's really an intersection of so many different aspects of human beings

and how odd we are.

But like, if I go to, you know, my favorite sports team game,

and we're all cheering and wearing similar gear and colors in the rest of it,

it's fun.

It feels good to be part of a crowd that you're all pulling for the same thing.

And hey, wait a minute.

I'm cheering for the cops.

You're cheering for the cops.

Yeah, we high five.

We've never met each other.

We'll never see each other again.

Skull the car nose.

Boo.

Oh, I hate him.

I hate him.

I play for a city that's somewhat further from my home address than this team.

So I hate him.

Anyway.

And the bad people.

Right.

I was like, oh, but I don't let that like dictate my politics.

I don't know.

People are strange.

Many rallies have taken on a performative, even theatrical quality with costumes and exaggerated

symbolism, replacing direct political engagement.

That approach lowers the stakes of confrontation, but reinforces the idea that the primary goal

is expression rather than persuasion.

And the pattern extends beyond protests.

In some corners of the culture, people who have committed or been accused of violence,

such as Luigi Mangione, have been recast his anti-establishment symbols, valued less for

their actions than for what they appear to represent.

The details differ, but the impulse is the same.

A search for villains who make anger feel justified.

Yeah.

Yeah, human beings.

What are you going to do with them?

Oh, that reminds me.

Maybe later.

I'm always cautious of relatives of Martin Luther King.

Because a lot of them, some of them are grifters and felonies.

But one of his nephews wrote a great piece on what was an entitled, it had a very great

simple title, essentially, you're not, your demonstrations are not what Dr. King wanted

us to do.

You're not protesting like Dr. King.

He said, and he explains why.

I think he would be not only in agreement with the writer, I was just quoting, but anybody

who despises like Antifa and the pro-Palestine window smasher, so anyway, more on that later.

So didn't get to the story yesterday in Ridley, California, which I don't know that I knew

of, which is down by Fresno, Fresno, or up by Fresno, depending on where you're listening

right now, or 3,000 miles from you.

I don't know where you're listening right now, over by Fresno.

They found a lab that was operated by a Chinese national.

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Yesterday, y'all mentioned how unusual it seemed that a listener normally put on their socks

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Well, well, that's unusual.

Also incredibly unusual was that person thought everybody else did it that way and was surprised

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Put my socks on standing up.

You have always done that standing up, did I miss that yesterday?

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I do.

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Yeah, I've just always done it.

But then it was like a couple of weeks ago that I tried it and I smashed my face into the

back of my office chair and I've never done it again.

You know, now that I never really thought about it before, but I think I have seen lots

of women throughout my life who put on their socks standing up.

Yeah, there's no need to sit down to do it, really.

I've not witnessed the suckification of many different women I've got to admit my sample

size is a smallish.

I'm not even like just, you know, I just like, I think like my nieces put on their socks

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Yeah, like, I'll slip my shoes on standing up, but I have to sit to tie them.

Time to go to the restaurant.

Okay, and they stand up and put on their socks and shoes.

Yeah, I sit down to put on a hat.

I just saved you first, Katie, you know, saved you first.

Yeah, I'm like, Joe, I just fall over.

I'm going to try that tonight and see if I can do it.

Okay, that's a good one.

How much time I got here, Michael tried to determine, uh, three minutes.

Okay, plenty of time.

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