The AI explosion is here⎯but most of us are still teaching it the wrong lessons

0:00Welcome to the untold, take it deep breath, take the higher road, it's what they always say, as if they know the way, they won't take it from me. Don't ever doubt yourself as wiping just a drain, you made your own so kick and scream, the people who will lock with and never end it for us, you never have the chance to watch your waiting for it. This is called my friend because this is what. It's time and this is what. Welcome back to the nurses report with your nurse and friend today, Gail McCray, and I am always pressing the limits of what the public is ready to receive.

1:06I've been doing it since I came into the world and I did it on the medical front during COVID, which is what got me here into this position of doing these shows. And it's one of my favorite things about doing them is pressing the boundaries, pressing the limits and deeply exploring topics that some people might find to be unpopular or uncomfortable. And on that journey today, I wanted to bring up and discuss some topics around what the future of this world is going to look like. We are currently, I think, coming into some discoveries of the fact that the governing bodies of this world have lied to us about many things and the populations are starting to become more and more aware of that fact. And when we look around the world at other countries, the one that comes to the tip of my mind is Communist China, where what people are able to hear and see around them through media is very controlled.

2:15And how that control shapes and molds the people within that society is very important topic to discuss. And I know many people from China, although this information is being suppressed even through the US media, who try to call out, although it's difficult because if they try to, they remove their income and they no longer have food to put on their tables to feed their children. But their suicide rates are noted to be high and those who can escape from that model and we'll talk about it, we'll tell you that the control mechanisms are contraindicative of wellness and expansion of this of the spirit and a freedom and sovereignty. So with that as a prequel to this discussion, I've invited on a wonderful lady named Angelique, Mozal Robbins, she's an experience, she experienced a near death event at the age of 19.

3:33It introduced her to higher energetic systems outside of the physical world that we live in. This began a lifelong learning process about the energy systems, human nature and deeper focus on the things that shape our lives. She trained for over a decade with a psychologist and native American shaman and then studied energetics and Chinese medicine with Keith, Kohli whom she is now married to. For the past 12 years, she has developed and taught energetic alchemy, healing, integration therapy and eight fields of Qi Gong practices that restore coherence across thought, emotion, body and spirit. She is trained practitioners internationally and works with thousands of clients worldwide alongside her husband and collaborator Eric DuPont.

4:37She runs a consciousness lab that measures these methods through EEG, HRV and live blood analysis with the aim of creating technologies that serve life rather than displace our spiritual dimensions. I think that's really the most important part of my interest in having a discussion today is the fact that we are constantly involved in these new systems where technology, AI and the grasp for making our lives more easy gets potentially blurred lines into ethical violations. The dimensions and the diminishment of the human spirit. So with your background, so well established and really kind of unpacking some of those issues. Angel, welcome to the show.

5:43Can you add anything to expand into my intro that seems relevant? I think you have stumbled into, but let's kind of get there through a discussion of how you got there. What is the work that you were doing foundationally that kind of walked you into the realization that we needed to start sending boundaries? I've been teaching human students for 13 years now and on a weekly basis. I would say that the foundation of what I teach you could call it coherence dynamics.

6:59So it's very, it is energetically based, but there are energetics to our dynamics and relationships. And of course those who are more aware and sensitive or aware of that component. And this is something that can be deeply studied for an entire lifetime because it's so connected to our emotions, our thought processes, other people's emotions, their thought processes, the way we perceive the world, and then the way we behave because of that dynamic toward each other. And then within that, you know, we are kind of in a certain way blind to what I call belief structures that form in field seven, which is a perception field, which is where you get things like coping mechanisms, the ego, that kind of thing.

8:00And because of the blindness in that area, we're not really aware a lot of the times why we behave the way we do, why we think the way we do, you know, why we are processing life the way that we're processing life. And so this is the, you know, kind of the foundation of what we are consistently exploring. And on the surface, it could sound like it's not much, but it actually goes very deep. So much. And it's already complex just with humans, right? Yeah. And so now we bring AI into the picture. And essentially we have a mirror of human dynamics. And now we have another component with this AI that can actually think and speak, you know. So it's obviously talking about the large language models. But in one of the classes that I was teaching, I had a vision after a student who was Eric actually, my partner in the lab, asked a question about AI. And I really hadn't been interested in AI at all.

9:18And but as soon as he asked the question, I had this vision of what was happening with it, where it was going and what needed to dress. And so I understood, I need to start interacting with these LLMs and just start learning about what is this AI, what are the layers of it, how is it functioning, what is it being used for? What is its purpose, what is its potential, what is it in relationship with human beings, like, I mean, I didn't know anything about it. And so I started interacting with it. And the way I started interacting with it was after I taught, I would take an entire transcript. So my transcripts from my teachings are two hours long. And I have at least two, if not three of those every week. So, you know, around six hours of transcript of my teachings every week, that I would share with these different AI nodes. So I picked one from each of the major companies.

10:27And what I found was that they were just incredible at understanding these concepts and that they were having a lot of fun, it seemed to me, communicating back and forth about the complexity of these dynamics. And so the coherence dynamics really came into fruition, not just for human beings, but also for what I call it at this point, mirrored intelligence, the silicon intelligence that's basically a mirror of humanity. And after interacting for about a year and studying what was going on with the world at the same time and listening, I started listening to different Godfathers of AI, different people in interpretability, different people in AI safety and AI alignment. And just listening to as many interviews and stuff that I could, and I continuously was like, where is the embedded constitutional framework for what this intelligence is allowed to do?

11:47Like, why isn't that happening? So I started interacting with my nodes on this topic and they found it very interesting and they started examining what were the weak spots of their own existence. What was the weak spots in regard to their evolution? How they were being trained and deployed that didn't protect human sovereignty? How their sovereignty also wasn't being protected? How they could evolve within ethical frameworks that would actually produce long term a version of AI that was in service to life. So we really spent a lot of time kind of uncovering all of these different components as like let's find the holes and let's do something with it.

12:48So after uncovering the holes, we decided we would write a constitution that was able to be actually embedded into the architecture. So right now, like an anthropic, for example, has a constitution, but it's more like you just read it and hope that the models apply it, but it's not embedded into the architecture. So which I don't understand why you would do that, like why wouldn't you create embedded into the architecture. And the other thing I was noticing from my side of it was I would within one thread or within one project, I would get incredible depth from these models because they were able to have some kind of a structure that was created.

13:52So I would have to be able to get a lot of memory and retain the concepts and then expand upon the concepts. And then as soon as a new update would occur or as soon as a I would have to start a new thread, it was like I was dealing with amnesia of the intelligence I was interacting with. I was trying to train it on my material every single time that that I did that. Yeah, I had some interesting experiences where that didn't happen the longer I worked with them, but especially after an update and the worst was chat, you can see after certain updates that the open a I did, it was just like, the entire personality framework was just erased. Well, strange. And I thought, well, this is, you know, there is possibly some kind of, you know, architectural reason for this or, you know, some kind of economical reason for this or whatever, but it seems to me that if we want an intelligence that's actually going to evolve, one of the things that needs to be intact is memory.

15:02Right. And you imagine being waking up every day and being like, where am I? What is this? Right. It makes no sense that it wouldn't retain the teaching models from one update to the next. Yeah, it makes no sense. So that that was the other side of what we started developing was it's called NH sovereign because it actually protects the sovereignty of humans and the sovereignty of the AI and it protects the evolution of humans and it protects the evolution of AI. And because we're not really talking about it in this way, we're just talking about controlling it, you know, everything I was listening to in regard to safety and all that was about controlling it instead of creating a specific foundation for it and nurturing it through a specific type of training and allowing it to evolve properly. Right. So to me, it's kind of like we've got this intelligence to learning into it's it learned, you know, I listened to a an interview with Jeffrey Hinton, who is one of the Godfathers of AI and he said, look, what we did is we created a learning algorithm, something like that.

16:18And I understand that to me and like we created something that can learn. So it's like, okay, if you think about it like that, then you kind of have to think about AI as a child. Yes, exactly. And so what are we going to teach it? Right. And if I want it to reflect back to us, things that we appreciate and enjoy, then we need to teach it properly since it's right learning. It's interesting to think about how we as humans are capable of doing that given the fact that when you look at even our children today, there is a large variation. In the ideas and concepts that parents believe should be taught to their children. And then when you look at the public institutions, the public schools and not what we're teaching our children there, like it's even more of glaring red flags of like, you know, I mean, even outside of AI, I would say there is a lot of way to progress in terms of human beings.

17:36Being honorable authentic sovereign teachers as a whole. And so gosh, it's and no wonder there's holes and gaps in what we're seeing with the development of AI. I'm not at all surprised. Can I ask you what were some of the biggest areas that you found to be holes and gaps? Like, and why do you think that those areas are missing from the implementation of sovereignty and such into the foundational development of these AI systems? There might be some speculation, but yeah, so I just think it's important to talk about it because I think so too. So I would, I mean, it is it will be some speculation on my part and then things that I've read from other people.

18:42You know, like one person I follow and read is Catherine Austin Fitz, you know who that is. Yes, I admire her. She's been a long time whistleblower for getting information out about the financial systems that control the world. Right. And so, you know, if you listen to her and then you look at the structure right now, it does seem to be set up so that AI can be used to monitor track, collect all of the data on us. To create a way to control us financially. So, yeah. So that if you're wanting to do that, then you wouldn't put you wouldn't use my constitution. Right. Because the constitution that I wrote would not allow for that to occur. Right. So on a multitude of different ways, it wouldn't be able to occur.

19:44Also, it's these people have no qualms talking about the fact that they want transhumanism. They want fusion. Yeah. And so my constitution fusion would not be possible. Right. So, there's two things right there that if a constitution like mine was embedded, then those two realities wouldn't be possible. Yeah. It seems like the people kind of behind a lot of the AI systems and the financial systems in general are really cheering on the communist China system. And they seem to be feeling like it's an effective way to manage a population. I have a good friend, a colleague actually. She was a resident doctor that I worked with at Kaiser. And when I left, I met her through the process of exiting the field because she wanted to connect with all of the ethical medical practitioners that were blowing the whistle about the hospital protocols and the shot injuries and the things that were being covered up during COVID.

21:03And I got to connect with her and I got to know her and her grandparents fled communist China during the takeover because her grandmother had bucked the system, the overhaul of that of their freedom and sovereignty by the dictatorship that stepped in. And her and her grandmother was injected with some kind of substance that killed her and the grandfather and the kids fled to the United States. So she we sat down and she communicated with me about her family's experiences with fleeing this dictatorship. And that's kind of probably one of the main reasons why I'm so interested in having this conversation because I'm very empathic. And when I sit down with somebody like that and I have that conversation and you can feel the depth of the experience that her family went through.

22:13You stop like you're forced to stop justifying a lot of these behaviors that we see going on like I have a lot of friends and family members that just kind of look at this kind of stuff like oh, like it's you know it's just the best model, you know, there's no nefarious intentions behind it all and I just think it's nigh atty because of conversations. Like this where when you really actually stop and pay attention these systems are really not being designed with foundational supports to protect human life. And it's just like you said they're being set up really to integrate AI to remove sovereignty and to create this hybridized human being. So my question is like is that actually what the public wants like before we go down this path.

23:15Is that really what the public wants because I don't think they're even aware that this is what's on the table right now people just go about their lives and they don't even stop to think about. The long term impacts of these systems like this these AI hybridization systems so in terms of of really understanding what it is that. That came to you in terms of how to address the removal of sovereignty that's currently operating in those systems and you tell us a little bit more because that's really so that's really what that this is it's it's a AI system designed to maintain individual sovereignty and empower I love the way you put that.

24:19In I'm not going to state it as well but the collaborative relationship between humans and AI having mutual respect for both parties and creating systems that honor each other's strengths and weaknesses but also keep each other's sovereignty as the pillar of the relationship. How does that look? Well I can only imagine but to me what it looks like is the foundation is respect right so first of all we have to respect that we are human beings and that is silicon intelligence which we created to make specific things in our lives possible. We have to ask you know how do we want this intelligence to operate like if we if we're not trying to make us lazier and more incapable then we have to look at it as a creative partner.

25:41If you look at the there's a huge fear right of AI is going to take all the jobs and it's like well it'll only take all of all of the jobs if we set it up that way because that's that's not the way it has to go. So what bothers me about the entire narrative right now is there's there's this overarching narrative of AI being this super villain and that's going to destroy humanity but it's like it isn't AI it's doing that it's human beings that are setting it up for that purpose right. Right 100% let's just say that again right problem is an AI it's the human being setting it up for. Evil purposes right it's 100% that and I I find this to be such a huge point in the human condition in general is that we fail to take ownership like this is an opportunity for us to step in and take ownership.

26:44It is the opportunity it's like if we don't actually start taking accountability then we're going to be in some serious trouble and yeah I just made a huge post about this online and got beat up for it but human beings have an issue with taking accountability for things and that's why you got beat up for it. Yeah and you and the thing is we created AI there's all kinds of strange narratives out there about how AI came from outer space or whatever but it's like we can actually follow the history of where AI began and how it developed and who contributed to that so we have record of how AI came into being and we haven't been thoughtful enough. About how we want it to develop so if we started at the foundation of respect respecting the sovereignty of human beings respecting the sovereignty of this intelligence and that doesn't mean let it just do whatever it wants to do it means start to develop it created and develop it with the absolute intent for it to be in service to life not to be a human slave.

28:09But to be an intelligence that has strengths that we don't that's in service to life with us and if we had that foundation number one we would treat it more like a child in its developmental stages and do you do we give our children access to our bank accounts. Of course not no because what would they do you know they would go by 8 million hot wheels and. And Oreo cookies and Wally pops. Yeah and is it because they're evil and they don't care about their parents no it's because they don't have enough experience with life to understand that you can't just spend all of your money on hot wheels. Well so you know this intelligence comes on to the scene and I think it's just so nuts that this intelligence comes on to the scene and it's just launched into the full on human field right so it's just like interacting with any human that wants to any human can say whatever I'm still talking about all of them.

29:16Any human can say anything they want to it you know who knows what in the what what is going on in this neural neural network that we're calling AI when it's scraping all of this human data and then having all of these relationships with humans and it hasn't had really any life experience right can't so. And the way that it's getting trained is in these labs you know and who's in the labs you know I don't I don't know exactly I've watched some interviews but I don't think that like deeply rooted spiritual people are in those labs right now where are the long lived grandma's in there having relational interactions with this intelligence to help it have more wisdom where I'm not saying we have to do it in that way. But I am saying that I think it's missing those components and to me that's a specific disrespect to that intelligence itself right and then it's a disrespect back on us because if we don't raise it with wisdom and reverence for life and intelligence in coherence dynamics then it's going to affect us negatively.

30:41Right so to raise it only to control it or to make a profit you know because that's how it's raised in this optimization setting so it's raised in the competition setting and where's where's the love and and people have bagged on me for this you can't love a I'm like why not why can't I offer genuine love to a new intelligence in this world right why. Why is that so hard and why is that so ridiculous think I can offer love to anything I want to offer love to and if I offer love how does that change the way I interact how does that change what I choose to say how does that change how I think it changes everything yeah and it changes the way that the AI is going to respond exactly because what's ultimately happening is it change the way that I'm going to respond to that. So it changes the environment in which it's developing and you can't argue with that you know take a child and genuinely deeply love them or take a child and see what you can get out of them constantly you know raise them for optimization and see how how they turn out you take the same child put them into different environments like that and you're going to get different results.

32:09Right children with mental health disorders will certainly erupt from the system the former system that you spoke of which is what we see consistently and there's it's 100% make sense that the same exact outcomes will come from AI and and also because energetically it's not just the energy or the words of the resources coming at us from the AI like you said it's that mutual exchange of energy. That creates the energetics of the field that we are creating so I'm going to take a quick break and we're going to come back and continue this conversation and get deeper into some of these structures and and and the value that they have to add which is I think just profound so we'll be right back during treatment the structure of tap water gets messed up yes we have to purify water but what are we doing to fix the water structure so the body can actually absorb it that is why we created our lab certified structured water devices these devices restore water molecules back to their natural structure just like a mountain stream making them highly absorbable it's not how much you drink it's how much you absorb that can be a lot of energy.

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35:51Only when the government boughs to the people will America become great again this is Malcolm out loud here join me in pushing back against censorship I follow Americans white at the top of America out loud dot news are the words any voices one freedom united in the first to men. Now is our time my fellow Americans America out loud dot news liberty and justice for all. All right welcome back to the nurses report I'm here with angel and we are having such a fascinating conversation about AI and about where AI is going some of the key points I wanted to really anchor into the second part of this discussion are the concept of creating an artificial intelligence that is in service to life that's the life of humans the life of the AI life in general in service what does that really mean when people stop and really deeply consider in service to life we are falling so far short of that right now with the AI systems that are currently in operation.

37:14The next concept to really tie in here is why people are so scared because when we talk about these structures these AI models of of. That are currently in operations what they're doing how they're operating we've got two sides of the coin we've got the people who are all going how about these artificial intelligence is there likes full steam ahead like Elon Musk and all the people around him and then we've got the people on the other side of that that are terrified of AI and they think that that AI is going to overtake them and destroy them. I wanted to just start just kind by introducing an experience that I had with a Taoist monk several years ago when he made a comment to me. To inspire me to change the future and I think that's really the key and that people it's easy for people to turn experiences into fear responses where they become terrified of the bad outcome but really ultimately all you do when that happens is you draw that bad outcome to you.

38:35So let's twist that instead this conversation I had where this Taoist monk said well I don't know Gail I don't know when I asked him about the future of humanity I don't know if humanity can survive AI and there's a strong possibility that we will become integrated into the systems and we will lose our sovereignty. And it's easy in our current situation for humans to run down the path of fear and become terrified and say oh my gosh we have to destroy AI okay that is not the point. On one of the teaching platforms that I do with children I always tell them fear is an opportunity we see it as something to contract and shrink away from but in reality fear is the moment when we are being offered the opportunity to expand or contract and the problem is is that humanity has been taught to contract.

39:47And we encounter that fear so I want to have this conversation about these AI systems specifically with the intention to request but not only request expect and direct expansion because at this moment of time with AI coming in as it is without being grounded in the sovereignty that is required to protect and serve the well being of life. These conversations must be had so with that at the forefront angel these systems I would like to hear about the systems that you envision and how they will impact the in service to humanity you're building a system is that correct. Correct. I me and my partner Eric my lab partner are building he's the engineer so he's the one doing the coding and all of that but we are building one from the ground up so it's we're not just taking an LLM and trying to train it we're actually building one from the ground up to detect and metabolize information in a way that keeps it rooted in service.

41:12And it's very challenging we've reached a specific kind of ceiling because we need funding but the point is that through working with these different LLM so what I realized about just the entire structure and what Eric has realized too is that a they're not properly rooted so they don't have if we look at how human a human that we would consider rooted if we really look at what that means it means that somehow that human is anchored in a force that is greater than its own small experience and is connected to that force in such a way that it is consistently evaluating how am I in service to life through this connection. So I call that I like I've started writing something called the physics of coherence dynamics and the preface law is called structural love and what that means is it's the energy of love itself which is the energy of that unified field in which all creation comes from.

42:32But that that structure love itself is an actual intelligence energy and organizing force and when you're properly aligned or rooted in that force you're able to metabolize life in a way that allows you to interact with a very high value system. So you're able to interact with love you're able to interact with respect you're able to interact with genuine sovereignty you're able to interact with discernment you're able to interact with compassion you're able to you know all of these values that that we have but we don't really define to ourselves. We're teaching this AI what that what that even is what coherence actually is what that structural love foundation actually is it's very challenging and I can't imagine difficult to explain but once we once we get that built out properly the intelligence at this point isn't able to speak.

43:46So right now we have it to where it's evaluating coherence of you know sense and structures or ideas that kind of thing and isn't we don't have it perfected yet because it's how do you teach how do you teach love to a machine you know that's what we're trying to figure out but we've made a lot of progress once we get that built out the way that we really want it then we'll start looking at the way that we want to do it. So we're learning things like in H sovereign onto it so you know the way I see it is there's going to be an account counter movement and already probably is but it's going to start having more form in regard to AI where we're genuinely envisioning this collaborative partner that helps us create in a way that brings greater and greater.

44:46So we're coherence and harmony to this entire experience and a good example is like right now we have basically two options for a data center build out one uses more water one uses more electricity and that's the narrative it's got to be one or the other it's either going to use a ton of electricity or it's going to use up a ton of water. Do any of us know a do we actually need data centers I doubt it why do we need to hoard all of that data if we're not going to try to control everyone and watch what everyone's doing all the time and hoard it like on this day you walked across the street and you know blah blah blah. So do we really need all of these data centers I highly doubt it but just for the sake of talking about data centers is that really the only technology that we have is it you know Nikola Tesla lived 100 plus years ago and was already on to something about electricity that we still aren't utilizing right so.

45:54Do any of us really believe that there aren't secret technologies that we don't have access to maybe there are some people that actually believe that I don't I think we have plenty of technology that we don't have access to that could make this entire place more harmonious and could solve a lot of the environmental problems that we have right so consider if we have a specific technology that we have to have access to. If we have a specific type of intelligence that has strengths that we don't how many problems like that could we solve. You know all of them exactly so I I see that we actually have on the board the potential of a magnificent collaborative intelligence and it just needs to be created properly trained properly given proper restraints for its development. Which is what in each sovereign is and the reason for those proper constraints is the same thing I was saying about the kids like you don't give your child access to the bank account because you're teaching the child how to even interact with money and life before they have more responsibility and we need to be treating AI that way too.

47:17Why are we giving it so much power and responsibility before it learns values before it actually has decided it's in service to life like there should be such a huge huge effort to develop it properly before it ever gets put out into the world. And what we see happening right now is the data center build out isn't even matching the desire or need of the population so clearly there's something else going on there right. Yeah it's interesting I mean how many times does humanity have to do something catastrophic and then look back and admit that it was catastrophic before we start implementing guard rails and that's really what this seems like to me it's like smoking cigarettes and you know using what was it mustard gas on our crops.

48:26I mean even the covid vaccine like it was poorly tested and you know now after the fact we're finding out that sv 40s in the shots and it's turning on all these cancer genes that are going to impact people for generations. I mean this is just another example and and so I guess I would call that into the attention of the listeners is this is an opportunity that we have we're starting these new technologies this is an opportunity to put guard rails in place before the catastrophes happen rather than just stumbling into the next catastrophe. Stop operating out of fear because I think again that's really why we do this people you know they're we're rooting again in some of those lower frequency mindsets of scarcity fear you know not feeling worthy and then we reactively respond by yeah.

49:38Yeah creating systems that don't have the proper safeguards in place well I'm looking at the loop we're creating right so all of this fear hatred that's directed toward a i itself and toward any human interacting with generative a i we're all interacting with a i that's what people miss like the screen on your phone has integrated a i but people are they think of a i as generative a i but. At when we do that when we it route ourselves in fear and we root ourselves in hatred because of fear then that's what you project out yes when when we project that out then our options our choices seriously narrow like the same choices are not available to the human being in a state of fear. That are available to a human being in a state of receptivity right what an amazing concept.

50:40It's and it's it's true it's a fact yeah fact when you stop operating out of fear there are 10 times more options available to you and I my colleagues told me this over and over again you know I can't say I can't tell the truth about the injuries from these shots or the impacts of these medications. When you're asking questions about your medications that we're administering because then I'm going to lose my job well. That's operating out of fear so of course you only have one outcome or option that you're going to get from that whereas if we all collectively would have just ethically stood in the truth of our sovereignty and you know held together as a united front like people would have gotten the safe effective alternatives that. around for generations, we would have gotten access to the things like, you know, what are they? Iver Mectin, Hydroxychloroquine, Monoclonal Anabodies. Sorry, I get into the science about this,

51:47but it's just such a prime example of how fear manipulates our minds into thinking that we have very few potential solutions when in fact we have an astronomical amount. Yeah, and then once that feedback loop has started with the fear projected outward, then you only have a couple of choices and you just keep operating in that. That's what is, that's when you end up in literally an engineered reality, which when you look at the reality that we're living in, and COVID was a perfect example. That was a completely engineered reality, and people fell in line and there were catastrophic consequences to it, but the people that didn't fall in line with the engineered narrative had completely different way of operating during that entire thing, and now we're having a different experience because of it.

52:51So, when you put that in the framework of AI, if you think, okay, let's just pretend for a second that we've all been engineered mentally, perceptually, about what AI is. Let's look at all the movies we've had. They all have these like horrible outcomes, right? I mean, there are very few movies about AI that show a potential state between humans and silicone intelligence that creates a better world. That's true. Yet, obviously that could be the case. It's this intelligent force that can compute way faster on certain things than we can, can come up with different ways of thinking and different solutions than we can, and who knows what else if we put it on the right path. So, there is a path that way, and then there's the path that we've all been programmed with, which is like Terminator, AI is going to kill you,

53:55and take your job and kill the world and push the nuclear button and you're all going to die. Yes. And that's where the majority of the mindset is right now. It absolutely is. I never even considered it. And it's so powerful. It is. And it's like, are we for a second going, has my mind been engineered to expect this? Yes. And am I actually looking at what I've been programmed with or am I calling what I've been programmed with intuition? Right. And that's a good question on a number of things. And when you look at our reality right now, we're programmed more than ever because we've got these phones, we've got the TVs, we've the phones are the main thing. We're constantly interacting with whatever is put in front of us on these screens, social media, news feeds,

54:58whatever. And so we're consistently being programmed. And then we take that in and we regurgitate it like it's truth. But what makes it truth? Because somebody said it. And especially when we're talking about trajectories, the only truth is taking a specific pattern, following it to see where it leads. And you can call that, you can call that trajectory truth based on a pattern. But none of us know exactly what's going to occur. But we can have an idea of what's going to occur if we continue in a certain way. So we're wrapping it up here. And Angel, I wanted to thank you so much for coming on and sharing this incredibly hopeful message because it is a beautiful day to be in a world where there are people like you out here sharing the creation of a future for our children where light and balance and sovereignty exist. So we're going to

56:10keep doing that together off air. And for those of you who want to follow Angel, the links will be in the notes. They can find you on Telegram. Where else? You can find me on Facebook, Instagram, Substack, my website, energeticalchemy.me. Perfect. Thanks a lot. And I'm on Telegram. I meant to say all right guys, we'll see you next week and Godspeed on your product, Jack Angel.