The Big Stuey: The Chief! (w/ Robert Parish)

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A hollow famer joining us today on Stu Gatz and company.

Yeah.

It's Celtic's legend, Robert Parrish.

I know you played for the Bulls as well.

I played for a couple of teams.

But Celtic's legend, Robert Parrish.

And he's got a new memoir called The Chief.

The story of the Boston Celtics.

Most enigmatic icon.

Chief, thank you so much for joining us.

What about the book or what about your story

is your favorite part that you want to share with people?

Me of the person.

That's why I did the memoir.

I have evolved.

I like the transformation that has occurred with myself.

I think I'm a softer,

easier to get along with.

I just think I'm all around better person now.

So had I not

changed the growth that I have experienced over the last few years,

the book would never have it.

And so because I would not have allowed myself to open up,

personally and intimately,

like the book or reviews of my upbringing,

about how I basketball all got started,

and my family, and my social life,

I would have never shared that.

But now that I

that is distant and anti-people,

anti-social, whatever you want to call it,

I feel like it was a good time to do the book.

Chief, what made you, if you were to look back and think of all the things,

I mean, it's probably a long list.

But what would you say made you

that really defensive,

kind of protective person that didn't allow,

you know, you to share these types of things with people?

Well, I don't know whether it's genetics or learned behavior

on my pops and similar treats.

So I don't, I know, I know where I got it.

I don't know how I got it.

Okay.

I don't come from my pops.

I do know that.

Right.

But you know, he wasn't really a people person either.

So like I said, I don't know whether there's a learned behavior

through genetics.

But I certainly have those characteristics

that my pops had, you know, in terms of keeping people at a distance.

You know, I'd be the first to say I know I give off that impression.

It's being distant and dismissive.

And those tendencies, you know,

learning or inherent it for my, my pops definitely.

Robert, what's changed in the last couple of years

that allowed you to open yourself up and write a book like this?

Well, my woman is suffering and me here for the last five years.

I'll do that to you, Robert.

We'll do that to you.

Yep.

You know, I need you to do better.

It's definitely with my interaction with people,

you know, I need to give people a chance.

You know, I need to not be so anti-people.

To be honest, I prefer my own company.

And I'm still liking it.

I'm just better at opening up and being more sociable with people.

And she just kept it, kept it, kept it, and she had a valid pump.

I can't even push back on that.

You better not.

I really can't give a no push back on that one, you know,

about the people, you know, because I know it's me.

I know it's not so much that I'm not trusting of people.

I just prefer my own company.

That's all.

Nothing against the human race because I'm a part of the human race.

I just prefer my own company.

They say love yourself, Robert Parris.

Oh, it's definitely because you love Robert Parris.

Yes, yes, yes.

I'm going to be able to stop with Robert Parris.

I mean, I don't want to hang around people.

I just want to hang around with myself.

That's it.

Yeah, you know, that's me.

And she has a point, you know, I need to open up.

You know, I need to not be anti-people as I was.

Actually, I feel better about it, to be honest.

I think I'm a better person.

Yeah, I'm not as hard and distant and that would ever add to like I used to have

when it comes to people.

You know, she made a better point.

And not to mention because I'm a better person,

I think I'm better at it.

I'm better relationship material.

Because of that, because I'm softer and not is.

You know, things are not going right.

I would have, you know, I have that whatever attitude anymore.

You know, I'm willing to sit down and walk in and talk about it.

Smooth things out.

So you went from a chief to a teddy bear?

Yes.

Yes.

All right, we get carried away.

Not too far.

Okay, now you got too far.

I feel like I am better.

I don't say that.

But it seems like you found someone who loved you for exactly who you were.

And you said, hey, I'm going to take this person,

mold them and make them an even better person than the one I fell in love with.

Is that fair?

I think that's fantastic.

She, my woman name is Esther.

She has been very patient, very tolerant,

very indulgent of my peculiarities.

I will say that.

And so I feel like, you know, she deserves for me to do better,

to be better, to act better.

You know, she deserves that.

So because she, how she has been with me,

that's the least I could do to try to be a better person for her.

And for us, yeah, I think right now, I believe she is better now.

Solid.

Well, I think you know, Robert, it's funny that you mentioned, you know,

your anti-social nature or whatever,

keeping people at a distance.

When you made so many people happy over 1,600, more than 1,600 NBA games,

LeBron just tied you for most games.

What, when you think of having played in all those games,

and that record that lasted as long as it has until LeBron now,

what makes you proudest of that?

Vailability.

Vailability.

It shows longevity, endurance.

So if anyone, for me personally, anyone was to challenge that record,

a break down record, I think it should be LeBron James,

because his attention to fitness and diet mirrors my philosophy of fitness and diet.

And so I like how he takes care of himself first and foremost.

We all know that he's exceptionally talented and gifted and all of that,

but I think one of the main reasons why he's been able to sustain this level of play

and this longevity is how he takes care of himself.

Because I'm a firm believer and I can speak from experience.

The better your fitness is, the least likely, you're going to have a catastrophic injury.

Now, you're going to get, you're going to get nicked up, banged up,

but I'm talking about a significant injury.

Less likely to happen, the better your fitness is.

And I think I'm a testament of that.

LeBron is a testament of that.

You know, you got to take care of yourself.

That's paramount, first and foremost.

Forget about the basketball.

Right.

Your fitness and your dietary, what you put in your body is also equally important.

If you want to maintain it and sustain a long career in an athletic arena,

chief, you, it must drive you crazy when you watch or hear about all this load management

and all these players sitting on the game.

By the way, you're also talking to a guy in Israel Goodie Eras,

who has been to the gym already today.

And we've got two more times before the day.

So I'm just saying, I like that.

Yes, sir.

To ask you a question, I don't understand it myself,

because six think about this, today's NBA,

they don't do two days in training camp anymore.

Right.

They do one of these.

They don't practice.

I tell my woman all the time, practice in the NBA today,

and like going to the spa.

You know, you know, you're going to steam bath, right?

Yes, steam bath, you get a nice tub, you get a jacuzzi, you get your soldiers,

you know, that swim, you know, they got a swimming pool, now you can go swim.

All they they probably don't provide, you can't get a mannequin, a pedicure.

Yeah, maybe.

But it depends on which team.

What were the Boston Celtics practices like to walk us through those back up?

Amazing.

I'm a practices, play our games, atmosphere.

The coaches were the referees, and they did not call files,

and let's say it was a hard file, you got knocked down, you know,

almost trampled, then they were called file.

Basically, they just sucked on the whistle and let us play.

What they did though, it toughened us up mentally and physically,

got it ready for the NBA grind.

And I think you wouldn't, this is just my personal opinion.

I think if the NBA did a practice more, and kept himself in better shape,

I think there'd be less injuries, less significant.

Well, you're not the first person that said that.

I just heard Stan Van Gundy talk about that because how do you prepare your body for all this,

and then not practice it?

You've got to practice a little bit and really sort of harden your body for the games, right, Chief?

I got another question for you.

What's up?

Being that they don't practice like they used to, training camp is not as vigorous.

How can they be tired?

How can you fix your lips, the same coach, I use a game with you off?

I'm a little tired.

I'm going to have to run down.

Yes.

How is that impossible?

I don't know.

I don't know, but I would vote for you as Commissioner of the NBA.

I was.

Yes.

I was wondering how we change that.

Enough people like you saying this?

I would be a piece.

I would be out of it.

Not going to be out of the group.

If you can be in the day, I would be fired.

No question.

Because if my player came to me and asked me for a game of games off,

I was like, you sit beside me and think I get tired of looking at you.

That would be me.

But you can't sit in the stalls down.

Now come on.

Oh, this shit would tell me you got to go, Robert.

Yes, I love it.

Robert, I think the answer might be you.

But who is your funniest teammate over the years?

Because right now you're cracking me up.

But we're here.

Funny as teammate.

Oh, it's got to be Cedric Maxwell.

That would be my guess.

Oh, I was going to say, he is down.

Cedric.

Really?

Yeah, he's down.

Yeah, Cedric Maxwell.

You know, he he kept, you know, he didn't look for something to talk about.

You know, you're you're you're human.

I'll be tired of half cut.

It's not quite right.

Or you need a half cut.

Or your outfit is not as fashionable, you know,

if he thinks it should be, he just looked for things, you know,

talking about he kept it going.

Always talking trash.

Right.

And he got the perfect job for Cedric right now.

Okay.

Yeah.

I love that.

I love you.

You're not trying to talk to anyone.

And Cedric is just wearing you out because he won't stop talking.

Thank you.

Yes, he loves it.

Again, ready for the game every day.

And you're like, man, if I wear this, Cedric is going to roast me.

I can't wear this.

Oh, no, no, no, no.

That's not worth it.

I never get one damn.

I came, I came to the to the ring.

You know, I always consider myself to be a good dresser, a fashionable dresser.

And one day I came to the game.

I had a blue sock and a black sock on it.

It was both dark.

And then black, you know, it's similar.

Oh, man, no, back I got from there from Cedric.

Oh, he's doing so much crap.

Because he's looking for things to talk about, right?

Oh, you know that.

He looked for something to be out of place definitely.

Robert, uh, speaking of things looking out of place, sometimes it feels like

Victor Wimbanyama is out of place on this earth.

He doesn't seem like an actual human being.

When you see the evolution of the center position,

you know, obviously compared to how you play it, how you played it.

What do you think of what you're seeing?

I like the way the big man big man picked the game today for this reason.

Even though they're out on the perimeter more than I like or prefer,

they still do big man things and what I mean by that, they care,

they take care of the defensive end.

They still rebounding.

They still blocking shots.

They still having the defensive presence.

They still doing the transition game.

They still doing big man things on the other end.

And that's why I don't have a problem with the today's athlete.

The way the today's center played that position.

I only think I was, I was seeing by women.

I wish he would play with it back to the bad.

That's getting more because nobody can defend that.

Except for maybe the big fellow down there in Oakland,

homeless check, homeless, maybe, yeah, he may be the only one

that could be a challenge or win me down low because he,

he has the lift to do it.

But anyone else is a serious mismatch.

If he ever had the mindset to mix it up more in style,

I know he's a little thing and a little light in the backside,

but I wish you work on it at the down low post game.

Just two quick questions.

We'll get you out of here.

Robert, we appreciate the time.

When Cedric Maxwell gave you the nickname,

a chief, what was your initial reaction to it?

I really didn't have one.

When I first came to the South, I was just trying to fit in,

to get along, and I didn't want to call for any kind of disturbance.

I try not to come in here.

You know, we're coming to the South.

There's like a room with a chip on my shoulder.

Because when you go to a new team, you want to fit in,

you want to find your place.

And that's what I was trying to do.

And so on the time I really talked to be honest,

when I was hyping the movie, one flew to Kuku Ness.

But I mean, you guys got to check this movie out, man.

Right.

All time best movies.

So clearly said it when it watched the movie.

And he's like, you know, you just like the chief.

Don't never say nothing.

Yeah, I'm all fooled.

Do you like you?

That's hilarious.

Now Larry was quiet.

Larry was quiet off the court, but on the court, he never shut up.

Is that fair?

Oh, Larry wasn't well.

I tell you what, he was quiet around people.

He didn't know.

Right.

Okay.

But people that he knew, Larry talked trash,

they're like simply all the time.

Just don't know that about Larry.

Larry was a legendary trash talker.

And what I respect about Larry's trash talking,

it didn't matter where he was 10 for 10 or five out of 20.

He talked trash until the last second, he talked.

None stopped talking regardless.

He was consistent that way.

Right.

Robert Harris's memoirs are called the chief,

the story of the Boston Celtics' most enigmatic icon.

Robert, thank you so much for joining us.

I see that you played till 43.

LeBron's only 41.

You think he's got to play till 43,

just to sort of match you or break your record there

because I feel like he's just got you in his sights.

At the level, he is playing it.

He can because he's still playing it in all start level.

Yes.

And so if he chooses to, and I don't know what other,

and now he might be what might have to take a pay cut.

I don't know about that.

I don't know whether he's going to allow him to take a pay cut

because of who and what he is,

nothing after me.

But he's certainly can play for another couple of years

if he choose to because he's playing at the all start level right now.

Yeah.

He's called the LeBron rule, make a salary cap exception

for anybody over 40.

He doesn't count against the cap.

All right.

I like it.

I like it.

Of course, that's good.

Final question here.

We play a game around here.

It's called shop for your life, okay?

So you need to choose one of these two guys to take a shot.

Your life depends on it, okay?

It's just a big game.

You want this guy taking your shot, okay?

Oh, you're on your coming me like that, huh?

I don't know who's going to do the killing,

but you're right.

Right.

And it's a three point shot as the,

as the clock is winding down here, okay?

And you have two choices.

To your left is Larry Bird,

to your right is Michael Jordan,

who's taking that shot for your Robert?

Is it a three pointer?

Yes.

Three pointer.

What is it?

A three pointer?

Yes.

Oh, Larry Bird.

That's a point.

Oh, Larry.

Larry Bird or Steph Curry?

What's it about that word?

Larry Bird or Steph?

Three pointer.

Oh, I got to go with Steph.

Oh, wow, wow, wow.

You got to go with Steph.

They think about this, man.

Think about this.

Because it's Steph and Curry outside shooting,

he changed and revolutionized the NBA.

No, no, no.

Think about that.

Yep.

He changed with the NBA today.

It's played.

The game is playing.

Right.

Steph and Curry.

And as you, as you got of no,

whoever wins the championship,

that's the blueprint of how to win a championship.

Right.

That's why you said all the three point shooting now

because the war,

I mean, he had the warriors wanted

with basically three point shooting.

So that's the blueprint,

print of how to win a championship.

So that's why you got everybody.

A lot of them should not be shooting

for his first.

Right.

Yes.

Everybody's shooting three point is now.

But shot for your life,

you can't make a wrong choice there between Larry and Steph.

Well, though, if I made it to the shot,

no, no, no, no, no.

If I did it, it's two point shot.

No, either way you go,

you got an excellent chance

that it's going to go in.

You're going to have so quick.

Right.

Yeah, well, I don't know.

Two point shot.

You're going Jordan over bird there.

Two point.

Two point.

I'm going with Michael.

Yeah, Michael on the two point.

See, this man wants to live.

He knows to make a wrong choice.

Yeah.

Michael from two and going from three.

That's right.

I robber, good luck with the book.

We appreciate the time.

This has been a thrill.

Yeah, it's been awesome, man.

We're huge fans.

And thank you guys for for your time.

And also, I want to wish you a

continuous assist going forward with your show.

Thank you, chief.

Really means a lot.

I like this new chief.

I got to be honest with you.

Yes.

That's a nice guy.

I love the old chief though.

That's a problem.

Thank you very much.

You are welcome, sir.

Thank you.

All right.

Good one.

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