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The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry,
I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.
I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if
they're just there that hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it. And now here's the marching
man to nowhere that face and the habitual liar. This episode of the Dan Levitard show is presented
by draft kings, draft kings, the crown is yours. It is 305 day and Domino is in the other room
there getting us ready for a series of, you know, obstacle courses and challenges. And I will say
that our very serious guests were laughing. I aired and not asking them. I think they were
laughing at Domino's outfit. I'm not totally sure. They were laughing at Domino's outfit.
I didn't say that. I didn't say there was anything wrong with this outfit. But our very
serious guests seem to be laughing at Domino's outfit. Domino, you're very excited. You are ready.
Are we going to play any of these games with David Samson? Are you ready to do some of this
stuff? Or should we hold off? Because the energy is burgeoning here and we should do it at the end
of the segment. The question is, is he ready? Is everybody ready? But we also have to take a go.
Are they ready right now? All right. Let's play some CO. No. He does not have. He does not have
on him a CO. No palette. But David, you can play from afar on remote. Let's play some CO. No. Here.
Go ahead and ask a question of us in honor of my father and what he made famous on ESPN's lineup
for a decade. Okay, meet up. The first one in honor of Bobby. Should men be allowed to wear
thong sandals? Oh, no. Strong. No. Oh, look strong. No. Well, it's a strong no from all of us
except for the dude that does it. Chris Cody. No, it's Chris Cody and David Samson. Cody,
explain yourself. Nobody wants to see those feet at the beach. Like, what am I supposed to wear to the
beach slides? Yeah. I wear thong sandals. Thank you. It's a white guy's thing. It is a white guy
thing. Super white guy thing. You guys haven't been to Hailea because the mechanic that faces my
car does it with thong sandals. Okay. See. All right. Yeah, David, defend yourself here.
I have a flip flop 10 when I lived in Florida 12 months a year, 365. Now I'm in the northeast.
I have to put makeup on it to have that 10 to remind me of being home in Florida. So yeah,
I'm a flip flop guy at all times. Just not on airplanes, but everywhere else. Put it on the poll,
please, Juju at Levitard show. Are you surprised that David Samson is so white that he has a
farmer's tan on his flip flops? Go ahead, Domino. Give us a second question, please. Second one.
This is pretty controversial. Should a bongo be paid? Have mayonnaise. What? No.
Excuse me. What? A human steak sandwich. A Cuban steak sandwich. A Cuban steak sandwich.
You can't go mayonnaise on bongo. Many establish establishments. Do down here in South Florida.
It's basically sandwich, Loub. See. So you've got Chris Cody, Zaz and David Samson are the only
sweet. That shit on anything. I'm feeling more Hispanic by the minute. This is what you are for.
Cuban, Jeremy. I'm proud of you, dude. I'm putting one on your buttons on it.
For every right answer, back here that we've judged you on it. What do you have on the shirt?
What do you have on the shirt? You have an undershirt on? You got it on. Take this
at all. Take the cherry chest. Zaz, how are you saying yes on punk? Do you have punk omitted? Do you like
punk omitted? Of course. But Mayo on it. Dalle.
He smashed my head with a glass bottle. That's a long standing day. That's a play on.
Okay, fair enough. Number three, Domino. What else do you have?
Batasusia, deal breaker? Batasusia's dirty bare feet. Dirty bare feet is the translation.
Is it a deal breaker? It's somebody. This is a controversial one.
Yeah, I'm in between. I'm in between. You can't be in between. No, no, I'm in between.
This is an absolute game. No, it's not very difficult. Wait, are the shoes off in the street
or in the club? That's what I'm saying. It doesn't matter. Either way, I'm out. They're in the bed.
The dirty feet are in the bed. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, what he's talking about is when the lady is out to have a good time and her feet get tired,
does she take off the heels to go barefoot? That's what a Batasusia is. No, I'm aware of that,
but once the Batasusia comes into the house, if you're dancing with her, then you've got or him,
you've got Batasusia. There's no Batasusia. I can promise you that. It's why on the bar mitzvah
circuit, we give the lady socks. It's true. Very presumptuous of that. Yeah, yeah. He's already
like, we're going to the next spot. Also true. Like if she's walking down Main Street.
I feel like that mindset is already like, I already sealed the deal. The question. It's just
deal breaker was the question. So is there a dealer? Is there not a deal? And doesn't break the
deal? Isn't that the deal? She's got to get in the shower before the sheets. Yeah, exactly.
Deal or no deal. Is that why Zaz is dressed as Howie Mendo? Batasusia means that the feet are dirty.
Period. Yes, but out of an establishment. Yeah, they're not a shower. They're taking it so
literally. It's a state of mind. It's a state of being a Batasusia. Domino number four, please.
Akiwamo. Is it acceptable to use an umbrella in light rain?
Bro, it's not acceptable to use an umbrella in a torrential downboard.
Right. So I don't have another button. Single umbrella. Wait a minute. Why are Jeremy and
Trist are the only ones giving a C here at Pavila? Hair. I don't want to mess my hair up.
I don't like to be damp.
Big time, Paul. Put more buttons on you got to add. Yeah, I got it.
I got it. Samson, I would have thought you a parasol guy. I would thought I don't I've never
owned an umbrella. I've never owned in my life an umbrella. I'm not a schlepper. I don't like
schlepping extra stuff. And it rains so infrequently in South Florida. Why would you ever need an
umbrella when you're just going from car to air conditioning to car to air conditioning. Why carry
it? And in the city, you can go scaffolding to rat to building to awning. You do not need it.
Ever. It's a, you know, it's a game of chance. It does rain literally every day during the summer,
but for like five minutes at a time. And you just hope that five minutes is not essential to your
schedule. I'm the only one here, though, who has never owned an umbrella. I mean, I think I have
one in that house, but I don't, I don't ever use it. What am I supposed to do? Bring that thing
everywhere? Get out of here. I have in New York City had to go into one of these shops to go get
the umbrella, which I immediately threw away as soon as I got to where it is that I was headed.
What's the wifey saying? No, Dan. No credibility, Dan. They're not in the shops. They're on the streets.
They're the street vendors in New York who come out in the baskets and sell the umbrellas
that everyone buys. They're disposable. You use them once and then bang it. You throw it away.
That's the only kind I've ever had. I don't know why you're accusing me of not being truthful in my
story. I just didn't go into a store to get it. Just one of the street side shops. I don't know why
we have to get stuck in the mud. That's one of the umbrellas I got. I remember it so much because
the only time I've owned an umbrella. No, what's the fifth question here, Domino? Writing a
public bus to get anywhere in Miami. Ooh, I think this is classist here. Some people need to
ride the public bus like this. Yes, David. Look at David, the elitist. Listen to the milieu.
Listen to him. Listen to him. He hadn't even considered the idea that somebody wouldn't have
transportation so they would need to ride a bus. I only knew there were buses because we would put
ads on them. I'm a metro rail guy and so is Mike. So we kind of take offense to this because
even though we don't go on the bus, we go on the metro bike extension via the bus.
I've told you guys before and you don't believe me, I think the trolley qualifies, right? I'm
constantly in Miami Beach getting on trolleys, especially when it rains because I don't have an
umbrella. So I see. Yeah, I think you're surprised that I would be using public transportation.
The beach is different. The sea sign hit my tambourine there. I don't know why it is that was.
We'll get back to more 305 stuff later in the show. I did want David's business
acumen on a couple of things here. Nothing personal is a really excellent podcast that he does
with Coca every day. He's doing it three times a week these days because of stuff going on
at home in his life. But he has been doing coverage of this Warner Brothers Paramount deal
that I have not seen anywhere else. And I know this is expansive, David. So I want you to cover
the most interesting parts of this. But first, I would like for you to explain to me in the audience
how it is that Netflix got billions of dollars by not concluding this deal. Billions of dollars
and what it means is Netflix happy that they weren't able to get this deal because they got billions
of dollars for not getting this deal. No, you're never happy when you get paid a breakup fee. It's
called the breakup fee and it gets negotiated when you've got a exclusive window with a purchaser.
Anytime you're doing a deal with someone and you've got a bunch of people who want to do the deal,
but you say, no, no, I'm just going to do it with you. But if we don't finish, then I'm going to get
paid. And the reason I'm going to get paid is that I am going to have the opportunity cost of not
dealing with the other people all this time and only with you. And so Netflix ends up with a breakup
fee, $2.8 billion and people are doing the funniest thing. They're saying, oh, that's going to be
used to get the international package with the NFL. That number was purposeful so that Netflix could
have extra money to do a sports broadcast game deal. It's absurd. Netflix has plenty of cash.
It's like a nuisance fee. It's, hey, we wanted to buy you. Well, we didn't get to buy you. You
went and dated someone else. Give me a couple billion dollars and we'll be on our way with our lawyers.
But how rare, how rare is that amount for a breakup fee? Billions of dollars.
This is over a hundred billion dollar deal. It's not, it's not like you're buying a casa on the
side of the street. This is a huge, huge deal. So you have to look at the percentage of the deal.
You're talking about, you know, 2% of the deal, two and a quarter percent, depending on where
the final numbers end up. I know, but I know, but what I'm asking you is how uncommon is a breakup fee.
Okay, it's not because I would have thought that billions of dollars, it's billions of dollars,
David. You're shrugging your shoulder at billions of dollars for not getting it. But you do this
all the time. When Michael Jordan bets $10,000 on a whole of golf, it's the same thing as someone
who makes a hundred grand betting a dollar on a whole of golf. You wouldn't comment on it.
It wouldn't even be noteworthy. It would just be what someone does on a Sunday. And so you have
to do percentages. That's the whole point of it. Walk us through what the impact is going to be
to consumers on this one. My answer is different than others in that you're not going to be impacted
at all by this deal. And there is a lot of PR going on by sore losers and by worried competitors
saying, you know, what you love to talk about, the consumers are getting screwed. They're going to
have to have 59 different streaming services to find 42 different basketball games. Everything's
going to hell in a hand basket. No. What this merger just means, it's really economies of scale.
When you combine HBO Max and Paramount, are you going to be paying what you were paying for both?
Is it going to be a little bit under? Is there going to be something weird about the master's
being on TNT, TBS, CBS, SDT, LSD? The fact of the matter is that what streaming is now, it's cable.
And for those of you too young watching, there used to be something called the cable package.
And you're never quarters. But for cord cutters, the reason we cut was we didn't want that cable
bundle. We wanted to decide what we wanted. But now that we know what we want, we're paying for
a lot of stuff. And it's really the same amount of money. STD. So STD was that necessary?
What was your question, Dan? STD. It's what you get when you don't wear bustadas.
A flip flops.
You know, there's probably a correlation. Because if you're like this unsanitary here,
there's it's a meta thing to pat the sushi. That's why I'm telling you, it's more than just a choice.
It's a state of being terrible.
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This is the down lebertar show with this two gods.
Are we going to get some layoffs? Samson?
Like, what's the, I guess, internal? Oh, my God.
Yeah, he's the worst at all. But listen, why? Why?
Why are we so before you? Before you criticize a relationship that I'm just starting with her,
when there is a merger of any kind and you've got two people doing the same job,
by definition, there's going to be a layoff because you only need one person doing that job.
That's why mergers or acquisitions happen. It's been going on since the days of pretty woman.
It's not exactly that we're forging new territory here and that it happens not just in sports,
but in every business you've ever been associated with. When you consolidate, that means layoffs and
reallocation of people to other positions. Before I contaminate your relationship with her,
you're being introduced to her and your first words are, I hope there are layoffs.
Because why else would it deal like that happen? It's happening because Azloff wanted to collect
about just under a billion dollars. I mean, that sounds good and he's getting bad press for it.
That's just incidental. The reason why this is happening is it's best for all of the shareholders
of Warner Brothers Discovery not to have it break up into the two companies that that was the plan.
And by the way, with Netflix, that still would have happened. There would have been a remaining
company of Warner Brothers and everyone was like, hold on, let's cash out, let's get the money for
the shareholders and move right along. Give us the most interesting thing as you've studied this
from every angle. Okay, nothing personal does an extraordinary job of covering a lot of different
things, but business in particular. What do you think is the most interesting thing here of all
the things? And what's the thing that most people aren't talking about that they should be talking
about? Well, everyone's talking about sports as the what is the driver of value for all of these
it streamers like Netflix is doing more live events or are they going to get more involved
in sports? Because we're sports and we're sports adjacent and draft kings and everything else.
But really what I'm looking at is all the other business silos and the impact that we'll have.
So let's look outside of sports and let's if you want we can just go entertainment and we can go
to the movie side to the production side. As it is, production's not happening in Los Angeles the
way it used to be. Production has moved to places where it is more tax advantageous whether it's
Nashville or a lot in Canada, a lot overseas. And what you're seeing is a lot of PR saying that
make America first and everything's coming back to America, but the truth is there's a lot of
business that's going outside of America. And these industries the entertainment industries
are at a crossroads because their profitability has declined and they've got to bolster it up.
That's why you see consolidation. That's why you see mergers. But then what happens after
is really important the cross cutting and then the efficiencies that you get on the expense side
and the hope is that no one will know the difference. And what would be the thing that people
aren't talking about enough? Is it that or is it something else that they're not noticing here?
So I don't think there's too many people actually noticing that when you government approval issue,
it's getting some press where oh it looks like it's fixed and Larry Ellison was at the state of
the union and what are we doing here? Was it always going to be the Ellison's because of the
relationship with Trump? And the truth is in Washington that those kind of shenanigans have
nothing to do with Trump. They have nothing to do with Obama or Clinton or left or right.
There are lobbying efforts that go on with these corporations at all times under all
administrations in order to ease pathways toward deal making. It happens with chip companies.
It happens with them. Damon companies, tech companies, rental car companies. It doesn't matter.
And what people are trying to do and I understand all the reasons we want to be against
everything that is happening that we're seeing in this world and in this country right now.
But there's certain things like this that have been going on forever.
YouTube is at 40 billion hours of sports watch time on the platform in 2025.
What do you do with that information? That's coming from their VP of subscriptions. He told Andrew
Martian that 40 billions of hours of sports watch time last year.
I was just trying to quickly do the math of what that means. 40 billion. There's only 24 hours
in a day. I'm thinking about how long our shows are. So we're asking for, you know, just six hours
for the two of us. And then he got to add Zaz and all the all the great shows. Everything else
we're doing. So Hoops and that's 20 hours a day. Yeah. It's a lot of hours, David. It's a lot of
hours. Okay, but I'm just not matter. No, that's ridiculous. The question I'm asking you
basically, look, Netflix is trying to become television. YouTube is trying to become television.
They're trying to replace what has historically been television and they're competing against
each other to be number one at the doing of television. So who's going to win?
People are watching YouTube on television right now. It is television. There's no difference.
People are using their monitors as televisions that's been going on for a decade. My kids don't
have TVs in their room. No, they're trying to replace what television. These two entities are
trying to be the single entities that become what television has been Hollywood is collapsing.
So listen, Mike. I mean, I don't want to say that everything's collapsing or that Hollywood is
collapsing. But there are people in your industry like your competitors who say that YouTube is
nothing. And that's why Netflix is the place to be for a podcast. And that obviously is totally
self-serving and correct. The reality is that there is room in this industry and the television
industry for all of these companies and competitors, Netflix, YouTube, all the places where we get
content. And right now they're just doing sort of a BDC saying, I've got 40 billion. I've got 40
billion. I've got 50 billion. It gives me a break, which you just get good content and the people
will find you. Jeremy has been dying to get into the show here all week on Marlon's coverage.
And you sent me a text that surprised me, David. Jeremy has anybody talked about the idea that
legendary broadcaster Tommy Hutton might not be going out exactly on his own terms. Is that right?
Well, have you heard any theories on this? Because David Samson has a different theory on this
that I had not heard. I have not heard that. Like in every conversation I've had with Tommy,
it was all about like, I'm at a stage where I'm still healthy and want to live the rest of my
life. What do you tell you? I mean, I think so. I asked straight up, like, is this your decision?
And his answer was yes, he wanted to come back now. TV landscape is changing. And obviously now
the Marlins are going to Marlins.tv. This is a different form of broadcast than they've had before.
But Tommy's been talking about this for years. And this was a decision that he made proactively.
David? Yeah. Lost in textulation, Dan. What I meant to communicate with you is that all of the grief
that Mike Ryan likes to give me and he did some shrapnel yesterday that just was wrong. And I'm tired
of it. And it's time that he got corrected. And I know he doesn't like being corrected. But you
blamed Jeffrey Lauria for Tommy Hutton's being fired by Fox back in the day. I was there. That's not
how it happened. What actually happened is that he wanted too much money and Fox said no.
It was that simple. And then he was let go. They could not come to a contract agreement.
There was two people up for renewals at that time. Rich Waltz and Tommy Hutton. Rich Waltz came
to agreement. Tommy Hutton did not. That's all. It was not Jeffrey Lauria calling up and saying
fired Tommy Hutton. Absolutely not now. Was Tommy Hutton popular in the clubhouse?
No. Was he beloved by anyone in the traveling party? No. But Tommy knows that. Was he very,
very tough on players who listen to it? Yeah. Did we turn the volume off in the clubhouse?
100%. Were there conversations about freezing him out on team chargers? 100% was there talk about
replacing vodka with urine? 100%. But did we fire him? Absolutely not. Yeah, you're right. I'm
sorry. I got that wrong. That's on me. It seems as though you just decided to apply pressure to
not renew him. You're fucking urine. No, we. Mike, you say tomato. I say tomorrow.
Same deal. You forced a man. Wait, we were saying that he was one of the most critical broadcasters
in the history of South Florida. You guys did not like that. That's why he didn't have a job
for a while. But that's not right. That's my point. If he had settled for reasonable salary,
then Fox wanted to keep the would have kept him. Wasn't us with Fox. David, was there? What was
there? One particular instance where maybe you and Jeffrey Lauria were especially infuriated with
his critical nature? No, I didn't care actually. I'd be I was one of the people who didn't care.
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On your birthday, decided to take an enormously long flight to Tokyo to run an
marathon that you had not trained for. And then you immediately came back. It wasn't to enjoy
Tokyo. It was to run in Tokyo. Why are you punishing yourself that way? Well, I made a commitment
and I'd signed I'd signed up. It's hard to get into the Tokyo marathon. There's six major
marathons in the world. Tokyo is one of them. And I'd gotten in and I'd expect its train because
that's what you do. And I've done for all of the 30 plus marathons I've done. But life changed
and I was only able to run once in six months. But I thought I deserved to torture myself as much
as possible. So I wasn't going to cancel. And I went and I tried. I didn't earn the start line
which you have to do. And I paid the price at mile 13 when I seized up completely and fell to
the ground. But I got myself up and I walked the last 13 miles with just I just wouldn't quit.
And I I'm surrounded by people in my family who are not quitting. So I'm not going to quit. And I
wasn't going to quit. But I would not suggest it to anyone. My hip-sert right now. I had
chafing in some very weird places like weird places that I wouldn't have expected. And I've been a
chaf guy, you know, since I started doing marathons. You're nipple chafing and begs the
fall of David. I think you're talking about the paint. That's exactly what I'm talking about.
That's where I that's where I would have worked it though. No, I've never chaffed there.
You can chaff right sort of in front of that. And so you goo that you goop that up. I do nipple
covers of course. Of course you underarms you have to take care of because you can chaff
there underarm. I've been lucky enough not to have in between thigh chafing but that's the big
one for certain people. That happens. But what happened is I got in the shower. No, about that
thigh now. When you get in the shower, you learn where you've chaffed. And I felt something that I'd
never felt in all my years doing marathons. And let me tell you, it was not good. Yeah.
A little aloe vera, Dan. That was a showstopper. Dollar. Around 4 p.m. at a theme park. Done.
That's when you're sweaty in your flip flops. It's not great. It's avoidable. But Dan,
the answer is I do like torturing myself and it's not what you said. The phrase you said deserve
to torture myself. Like what are you doing? I'm just it's you know, I guess my thought was that
I've got I've got my daughter going through something way worse than this. And so if she's going
through something bad, then I can put myself through something that's not nearly as bad.
And I think that that was what that was definitely in my head during the course of the marathon
that what I'm doing is nothing compared to what she's going through and doing and living with.
So for me, it was not the the math was easy on it. Deserve though. Deserve though Dave. Like I
that you could phrase that any number of different ways that isn't I deserve to torture myself.
Well, I'm not going to get on your couch right now, but I will tell you that I of course I feel
that way. I'm so I've been fortunate with everything my whole life and I'm fortunate right now.
I have my health. I I've lived a full life. And so why would I deserve to have make another memory
when you know, I've got a family member who can't do that right now. So I that's my answer. Why
are we talking about this? I'm happy to do it. Whatever you want, Dan, it's your show.
Speaking of torturing yourself, I've read some of the reviews for the bride. And I'm wondering if
you're into the concept as a whole for the bride or if you're going to watch it. Are you going
to support Maggie Jill and Hall taking a big swing with the bride? I love Maggie Jill and Hall.
Absolutely. Love. Love. So people are saying that Jesse Buckley can't win the Oscar for
him that because it's so bad. The take the take is this performance in this movie is so bad that
her incredible performance and ham that should be erased and perhaps start wagering on Rose Byrne.
It's it's so crazy to me when people do that. Like Oscar winners only make good movies.
It's silly. It's like our friend Nick Cage. It's okay to make a stinker once in a while. It
doesn't take away from the fact that you left Las Vegas. Everything is totally fine with her.
She's going to win the Oscar. I will probably see the bride. It'll be a stream. Maybe an airplane
I'm going to see it maybe a double feature with withering heights. But no, I'm not rushing to do it.
For those that are not familiar with the bride. It is a reimagining of the bride of Frankenstein set
in 1930s Chicago where they're like Bonnie and Clyde. I don't know. There seems to be a lot going on
which explains the early release in the calendar. Mike, how excited are you that Amy Madigan is the
favorite? I just butchered the last name. It said Harris is wife. She's such a great actress.
Feel the dreams. Magged. Magged to get. I'm having a moment. It's mad. I'll bail you out. Not super pumped.
Just okay. I'm just look warm on it. On her winning the Oscar? I'm just trying to help you out here.
You were searching for. You love that movie. Which movie? Weapons. Weapons. Oh, that was a girl from
Feel the Dreams. Yes, of course. Man, I didn't know that's mad away. It's so good. I had no idea.
That is incredible. Wow. But the kids. Wow. You're right. Huh? I didn't catch that.
I don't feel like it's what Harris wanted. No, it's not sarcasm. I'm learning this for the first time.
She was also a gone baby gone. Wow. I feel that she knows she was married to Ed Harris. No,
I didn't know that. I didn't know that she was a feel the dreams lady. Wow. Do you watch movies?
I do watch movies. All right. Dave, I saw a movie. I saw basic instinct over the weekend. What a movie?
He'd never seen it before. What are you going to do? Charge me with smoking?
Oh, what a line. They both used it. It's so good. The only bad part about that movie looking back
and there's only one part. Sharon Stone is going with the story now that they didn't tell her
that they were going with that shot and that bothers me. Yeah, right. No way. No way.
That's a new thing for those of you who don't know basic instinct, because Tony had never seen it
before. The famous scene from that movie is her being interrogated and being so casual in the
interrogation that she uncrossed her legs in a way that was suggestive. Newman was shook.
Newman was so suggestive. It was it was on purpose. Dan. But she said, but she said she says
she didn't know that they were doing that. I mean, she's saying it's on purpose and she's
saying that the real her didn't know that they were filming that to be suggestive or otherwise.
David, would you agree? Did she not know she had no Wendy's on?
Like David, you would agree. That scene catapulted her career. That move is pretty good in total
recall before that. That's another one I'm going to watch next. Yeah. I mean, if she didn't know,
why would she do that with her legs? That is not a normal thing to do. I mean, let's uphold
something. Corum here. We're going to review something here with David Samson. What are we
reviewing today? I really hope and we didn't rehearse this and I'm sorry. But did anyone watch
the documentary on Amazon called Soul Power, the Legend of the American Basketball Association?
I'm getting to it. It is four episodes of perfect. If you are a fan of sports of any kind,
and I don't know if there's anyone in studio right now who's interested or as a show called
Allie Upps or anything like that. But if you're a basketball person and you're not watching this,
then I'm questioning the rebar in your being a basketball person.
Christie's coming after you. If you're a basketball fan, you should have
watched my question. I'm sorry. I know we're just getting to know each other. Are you a sports fan?
Yes. I love sports. Basketball is my favorite sport. I'm not. I was never a baseball fan. That
was my job. Basketball, to me, is always, always been my true love. He was a heckler, Trista.
He was a heckler. He went to next games and he would heckle the players.
Biggest test of a true fan. No, I went to games. I watched games. I would not make plans,
both as a college student or a law student or a husband or a father, which may explain all
sorts of things. But I would not make plans on either any home game or road game of the nicks,
as I was in New Yorker and the nicks were everything to me. I watched every single game
from 1975 until 1999. So 24 straight years before I got into baseball and couldn't really do it anymore.
And the highlight of my life, Trista, if we're just getting to know each other, is not winning
the World Series. The highlight was when the nicks beat the Pacers in 1994 to finally make it
to the finals for the first time in my fandom. And it was the most meaningful experience I've ever
had in sports by far. And I've had some really cool ones. But this this documentary four parts
that is George Carl is involved. Julius Irving, if you know, obviously the doctor,
but he got his start with the New York Nets in the the the ABA. There's Dan Issel. There's a
Darnell Hillman who's in it, who is always the guy. That's the Fletch character, the one with the
you know, 64 with the with the absolute. Yeah, for exactly. So it is it is I learned so
much. Some of the great business deals of all time happened in the merger of the NBA and the
ABA. And there was consolidation and people did lose their jobs. And the three point shot started
in the ABA. Think about that. People don't realize that. So they slam dunk contest started in the
ABA, not in the NBA. The ABA game was way closer to the what the game is today than what the NBA
ever was back then. So it's really interesting to learn about this part of the history of the game
you love. Samson, we'll talk to you next week. Again, I will encourage everybody in the audience.
Nothing personal is the podcast. It continues to grow at a great rate because he does and Coco
does a great job with that. So check out nothing personal wherever it is that you get your podcast.
Thank you, sir. I have gone the entire show here over the course of two hours. There are
any number of things that make me regularly feel old in sports. Jermaine O'Neill Jr. playing
for SMU. I mean, I'm old enough to remember Jermaine O'Neill came straight out of high school.
His father came straight out of high school into the league and was unusually good as a young
person. And more recently, what's happening more and more is that people who are a part of my past
are dying. Louis Holtz represents the first controversy of my career. Tony has accused me of not
standing on business, on standing on shenanigans, the empire built on shenanigans here. The first
controversy I ever had writing anything was in the school paper at the University of Miami,
the hurricane. Before they played the University of Miami in a game that was plenty, you know,
fiery without my help, I printed Louis Holtz's phone number in the college newspaper
and told University of Miami students to call that number. So you've been a rabble rouser
shifter your entire life. Did it have an area code when you put it out there? Was it just seven
digits? It was his office number. It was not his home number. Well, it was more respectful. I
don't think his administrative assistant was very happy with me. Neither was Jimmy Johnson for that
matter. Jimmy Johnson. That's the first time Jimmy Johnson got mad at me. What were you asking
people to like you weren't just he just put his number like you want to shower him with praise.
I said, shower him with praise. Compliment him on being a Notre Dame spiritual lovely.
I asked Mike Ryan. I requested Mike Ryan to do his Louis Holtz impersonation from the beyond
because it's a flattering impersonation meant to honor the memory of Louis Holtz. We now have to
and we have to clear out our Louis Holtz file in our library. Respectfully. Respectfully. Yes.
So let's clear it out. The sneeze is something that I remember. The legendary broadcasting sneeze
that is a bigger memory of Reese Davis because of how quickly he reacted to it.
So mention the mirror. Do it. Now, Marshall. Usually it's all Rikim Keito who did
the touchdown pass in his 40. Seven Johnson put up 272 yards. That's a Marshall record. Nothing to
sneeze at. Oh, that's a host. That's a that's a polished host. That is a wet sneeze that sounds
like a horn from a 1920s automobile. It's wet. A.O.
Plus spray at the end. It is. A.O. Respectfully.
Okay, that doesn't mean we have to retire. That does it. No, once we once we end,
nothing we can keep the sneeze. I don't. I just asked to empty the file and that's where we started.
Do we have any Louis Holtz impersonations by Mike Ryan because I was hoping that our library,
I was hoping that we could wrestle that away from ESPN. It would certainly not be doing that because
I'm respectful. So we don't have any of that. Do we have anything else in our library,
our Lou library? No, we have to have more than just the wet sneeze that sounds like a 1920s
stootabaker. It's it is. It's crowded in an intersection.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

