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Welcome to the big suite presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show?

The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry,

I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.

I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries

that if they're just there that hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it.

And now here's the marching man to nowhere that face and the habitual liar.

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DraftKings. The crown is yours. Sweet 16 action last night.

First two games were awesome. I hated that those because the last you know the two games

the end of the night weren't great. Arizona crushed Arkansas and Illinois beat Houston.

But the first two games, Purdue and Texas awesome. Iowa and Nebraska awesome.

Like both at the same time. I don't know if you guys know the way it works.

I can't have sound on multiple TVs at once. It'd be really confusing.

So I can only have sound on one of the games and I chose for it to be Purdue and Texas.

And then I'm watching, you know, keep in track of Iowa and Nebraska on the other TV,

but that's on mute. You know about that multi view.

Yep, but then you use switchback and multi sound.

You know, multiple sounds on the driver person insane.

That's what I'm saying.

But you just switch like you just toggle the screen.

Does it happen with you guys with my YouTube TV?

It takes forever for the sound to go over.

I five two games going. If I go over to the right one, it doesn't instantly go.

You know about that good internet?

Is that what it is? It takes sometimes like 30 seconds for the sound to switch.

I'm telling you, maybe it's just my setup.

My internet's fine in general, I think, but can I tell you?

I think it's at the heat game.

Jessica Smetana joining us, of course. Hello, Jess.

Hey, good morning.

Hello, good morning at the heat game.

I was at the heat game last week and they do, you know, those, uh, you know,

trivia or something in time out to whatever.

And they had a kid, I don't know, he looked at me like 18.

All right.

And it's what sound is this?

And they play the sound of dial up internet.

If the kid heard a noise, he'd never heard before.

He had no clue what the sound was.

I mean, like we're at that point where dial up was so, that's how you're,

do you remember when you would use dial up, Jess, do you remember?

I don't know, maybe you're too young, even, Jess.

But you would use dial up and then, and then that is a compliment.

You would use dial up and then you would lose the signal because your mom would

like pick up the phone downstairs because you want to make a phone.

Mom, I was in the middle of downloading something.

Wow, you didn't have a business line, right?

Oh, you have to have the business line.

You would always get interrupted by your parents picking up the phone.

Anyway, uh, Jess, were you into the games last night?

I was very into the games last night, but I have a question because I have the same

scheduling issue as you do.

And there's the same thing tonight.

There's multiple games on out at the same time.

But I'm the women's NCAA tournament.

Today, starting at 230, we have staggered start time.

So I can watch all the games back to back to back.

Why do the men have all their games on at prime time?

Or 10 p.m. is like, I know I understand that's prime time for the West Coast,

but I mean, there's just no way I'm staying up to midnight to watch Houston shoot 28% from the field.

No, that sucks.

And like the first game tonight, St. John's in Duke, which,

the game like going to be really great.

Alabama, Michigan's going to be great.

Anyway, the first, the first game, Duke, St. John, 710,

you got to have the first game at six.

The first game's got to be six p.m.

They, these games, you're starting them to, you have four games, Jess,

all starting after seven p.m.

Come on, get a clue.

Can I also say, uh, the other day I heard Dusty May was going to be on the show.

I said, oh, that's, that's cool.

Lehman has been embedded with the Michigan basketball team this whole year,

working on a documentary series about the road to March Madness.

And I said, I'll, I'll stay tuned for that.

Maybe there's a sound bite that I can send to Lehman that they can put in the show.

Took a way, Mom.

Well, I was wrong.

I was wrong about that.

I gave you plenty of sound bites there.

It's a problem.

Most enjoyable interview he's had in a while, he told us.

He was into it.

He was asking me questions along the ride.

He loved that.

Okay.

I don't know if it's going to make the final cut.

Did you guys see this?

So we'll wait.

All right, we'll wait.

Is now the, uh, he's, he's once again, once again, the head coach at LSU.

Like, that seems pretty rare that that happens, right?

Yeah, this is very rare.

I saw someone on, uh, on Twitter, uh,

accused LSU of building the Avengers of asshole coaches.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That says, and tell everybody who you're referencing, of course.

Well, Lane Kiffin is there.

I don't know if you saw that.

And what way does, uh, you know, it has his own reputation.

And I cannot do.

Well, my, oh, Kim, don't you dare say a bad thing about him.

I love her.

Don't do that.

Yeah, Kim, Kim, she's a saint.

Yes, you, you, you tread lightly.

You're the one who called the asshole Avengers.

I didn't even consider she was one of them.

One thing you need to know about me is as a big Kim Milky guy.

All right.

All right.

I don't know what it is.

Baby.

He's about, I don't know.

I don't know what it is.

Thank you, buddy.

All right.

Yeah.

Speaking of 10 p.m. tip-offs, they're playing tonight against Duke.

That's going to be a really, uh, really fun game.

A lot of storylines in that one.

Yeah, that one's a very exciting game.

In the, in the women's tournament.

So Will Wade has left NC State.

NC State lost in the first four to Texas who lost last night.

Really fun game against Purdue.

We can get to the games in a moment here.

But Will Wade becomes again, the LSU head coach.

He signed, I think, a six year deal with NC State last year.

This was the first year of his deal.

But here's what happened.

All right.

So let's go back.

I think this is about two weeks ago.

When there are, you know, the LSU job is, is opening up.

And, you know, the rumors are starting to fly.

So as any good reporter would do, they would ask Will Wade

about the potential of becoming the LSU head coach once again.

Here it is.

A lot of talk with you and potential position at LSU.

You just want to see if anybody from that campus reach out to you

and just give you an opportunity to speak on that.

No, is the job open there, huh?

No, so I would, I'm not, listen, maybe very clear.

I'm excited at NC State.

I was hired at NC State to do a job.

This wasn't going to take one year.

I've already met with our administration

about next year and some of the changes that we need to make

and some of the things that we need to do

to put this program where it deserves long term.

So I'm not, you know, I'm not on social media.

I'm not into gossip.

I'm not into any of that sort of stuff.

But look, we're going to win and we're going to win big at NC State.

For me, Jess, it's one thing to do the whole lying thing.

All right.

And it's another thing to try and make the reporter feel like an asshole.

And that's what he did there.

He was right, though.

The job wasn't open.

It's unclear if the job ever was open because they seemed to hire him

before they fired their coach that had signed a seven year deal.

What was it three years ago?

Because of the amount of turmoil that the program was in

because of the recruiting violations

from Will Wade's first 10 years.

So I feel like there's like a small domino,

big domino thing happening here with like small domino,

Brian Kelly gets embarrassed on national television

against Texas A&M and then like big domino.

Will Wade's back at LSU because of all the things

that had to happen in the athletic department

for this to come back around.

But I'm with you as very, you know, just kind of bratty way

to answer that question.

And then ultimately he looks like a liar.

I think Buu Corgan, the NC State athletic director

would tell you that he, you know, he said he felt like he was lied to

and he wants to commiserate with the fans

and he's disappointed.

And then my last final thing on this is the statement

that he put out was a very graphic design

is my passion statement.

It was just very ugly.

What are we doing?

Like why did you do it in red?

Why did you make the NC State colors?

Like did the NC State designers?

They're like, yeah, we're not going to make one for you.

So you got to make one yourself.

He's like, okay, I'll make it look like it's a NC State thing.

It was very ugly.

I did not like it.

All right.

So as you guys go, I'm just curious where you come down on this.

If you, would you rather be Will Wade or Wade Will?

I think Wade Will is better.

And if you're William Wade, I think you go Billy Wade

over Wade Will Wade.

How say you?

Are you Wade William though?

Or are you just Will?

Wade Will.

No, Will.

I think really, like if you're Will Wade,

I think the better option is Billy Wade.

I think all of the derivations of William,

Billy is the coolest.

In fact, I am a William.

I'm William David.

And but I named my son Billy.

I didn't name him William.

I named him Billy to just because like,

once you get to those teen years,

then you want, you feel like I'm going to be more grown up.

And so you go like, let's lose the Y because that's a little boy.

And then I'm Bill.

But then if you're Bill Damace check for the right,

that's Squaresville, but if you're a Billy Damace check

as a grown up, you're cool.

And if you're Billy Wade, you're cooler than that dork.

We just saw him monitoring the nice reporter that will Wade says

everything about you could see it coming from a mile away.

Why?

Because his name is Will.

What kind of hard owe goes with Will over Billy?

So like Jessica alluded to, the NC State AD is Buchorgan.

And here he is yesterday giving his side of the events

that took place leading up to Will Wade leaving.

Asked him what he needed, right?

What do we need to be competitive from there?

As far as the resignation letter, it was an email, right,

that we received from his agent and talking with his agent.

So he did not reach out to you directly?

Not from that standpoint.

There's a lot of people, particularly the ones in IEL,

that subsidize the success and athletics.

The field disappointed, maybe even feel

I didn't rely too.

How do you speak to them in regards

to what you're going to do in the future?

And to sort of say, hey, stick around, stick with us,

we're going to do that.

I think I would commiserate with them

in terms of feeling like to, right?

And let them know that it's not something

that I didn't know anything about.

You know, the surprises they are about what's going on.

But reassure them that we're going to find a coach

that wants to be at NC State.

An email from the agent to the AD?

That's Bush.

Just that's Bush.

Yeah.

I mean, and also the ugly graphic design

is my passion statement.

I think that's more Bush league.

But I mean, I don't know.

There's a lot of iron for Will Wade and LSU and all this stuff.

Like, I guess my question is, I don't really, I don't know.

I don't watch a lot of LSU men's basketball to begin with.

But was his record that good that it's worth doing

all of this weird public, just kind of shadiness?

He's not like, he got like a Coach K record, right?

It's very, I don't know, it's weird.

Like he was let go at LSU the first time under scandal, right?

There were, I think, wasn't there an FBI probe involved?

Yeah, there was a wire tap.

Yeah.

But now it's like, okay, well, you can't pay for it.

But he is positioned well for for the modern era is just highlights.

A lot of the public experience with pamphlets.

A lot of the things that were held against him as previous go around.

We're like, hey, you know, it'd be great today.

That guy that we fired.

Mike, you know, I have one rule to live by, right?

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Don't say a game is one when it hasn't hit triple zero.

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Wearing clean underwear every day.

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Brushing your teeth.

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Never pee pee on an electric fence.

Okay, maybe there are two rules.

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Anyway, the game's last night, though.

Purdue beats Texas in a really close one.

Iowa beats Nebraska, also in a close one.

Did you see, so what was it, Nebraska?

Nebraska's trailing Iowa by three with a little more than a minute remaining.

Iowa has the basketball, Mike.

Fred Hoyberg and emboys.

They only had four emboys on the floor.

That's coaching says, and it resulted in a layup, which resulted in an actual three-point

play game over had he had he only had four players on the floor in that spot.

I don't know if it's time out, but I've ever heard of a team only having the one fewer

player than needed on the field or on the court in a pivotal point in a game before.

So I truly can't relate.

I mean, these Nebraska fans must feel terrible.

Also, Fred Hoyberg, predictably, was him and his team were asked about a post game.

For Ring, about 58 seconds left, that beatball, the viral for the bucket.

I think there were four players on the court.

Can you say what happened?

I'll ask the rest of that one, Myron.

Put that one on me.

It was a miscommunication, and on the head coach, put that one on me.

The four men on the court, on that final inbound, there's some confusion online about if that's

the rules, you're supposed to have five guys on the court where the official is supposed

to hold the ball before the ball was a good question, Rob, and I've never been in a situation

like that.

I know they always count to make sure it is not six.

I don't know the rule on that with four, but yeah, I mean, again, it was a miscommunication,

and unfortunately, it happened, but as far as the rule, I've never been a part of anything

like that.

I just wanted to make the point that the point out this spectacular irony or coincidence

or whatever it is that coach Norman Dale did, in fact, only put four guys out on the

floor and said, my team's on the floor famously for high school basketball fans from the mid

20th century in Indiana.

My team's on the floor, his team's name, the Huskers.

Look at Freddie Hoyberg doing it with the Huskers in the 21st century.

How great is that?

You know, Dave, it's interesting that you say that because, and good on Fred Hoyberg

for taking full blame, as you should obviously, but it's interesting that you say that because

obviously the officials, if you have six on the floor, they're like, like, it's going

to be a technical foul, but if you have four on the floor, like in Huskers, the referee

says you need a fifth, like the referee isn't supposed to actually allow the ball to

be inbound.

If you don't have your team yet on the floor and then the coach acknowledges, okay, this

is what I want.

My team is on the floor.

That's actually, like, you are supposed to get that discretion from the referee.

And so last night, the referees clearly were not counting the players on the floor.

It's, again, it's Hoyberg's responsibility.

But normally the referee would say coach, you need five guys.

Is it though?

The solicitous referees are supposed to step in and be like, hey, trying to do a solid

here, coach, you, you can throw another guy, they're supposed to count football game, but

not in the NFL.

Not in football game.

You're right.

Don't do that when you only have 10 guys out there.

Yep.

You're right.

You're right.

But in basketball, yeah, it's normally like, hey, you know, you don't inbound the ball yet

because it was coming out of time out.

And maybe the fifth guy is still coming off the bench.

You're waiting for all five guys before you hand them the ball and clearly the referees,

they did not do that.

So anyway, really good games last night.

Just, you know, who Chapel Rones, because I don't have a clue and I feel like you might

be out of town.

I have no idea.

So I keep seeing on social media this, am I even saying the name runs?

This Chapel Rones is all over my timeline.

I don't have a clue.

This person is.

Dave, do you know who Chapel Rones?

I am aware of her because for better or worse, I'm pretty sure it's her.

It's a her.

I saw a picture on social media in the last couple of weeks that she had her side bosom

exposed.

Does that right?

She does tend to expose the side bosom.

Yes.

Zaz, this is a social media controversy for our times based off of an incident that happened

in Brazil last week where Chapel Rones was performing at a festival and she was at

the festival.

She's like a pop artist.

Wait, do you actually not?

I'm sorry.

Yes.

This is not big.

You genuinely doesn't know.

She genuinely does.

It's got a very fine night.

That's a goal.

Pick pony club.

And she's not in Metallica.

Yes.

I like what I like.

I like what I like.

I like the pink pony club.

Do you watch college game days, Zaz?

Yeah.

Okay.

Do you remember when they did the ought to go bit with this little couple of times?

Okay.

That's to a Chapel Rones song.

Yes.

See, I'm trying to find you at your level where you may have encountered.

I know that so.

I know that so.

I'm watching SNL.

Okay.

Because she also has been on SNL twice, I think.

Okay.

Go on.

So she's a performer.

She's an artist.

She's, you know, a young woman.

She's at her hotel in Brazil.

And apparently, according to the soccer star, Georgineo, his, I think, wife or perhaps girlfriend.

I'm not sure if they're married.

His wife's daughter, who is the daughter of also Jude Law, who I found out has, like, seven kids.

Didn't know that.

They were at the same hotel.

And apparently, she walked past Chapel Rones and smiled at her or something like that.

And then a big, ginormous, burly security guard, who was a part of Chapel Rones security group,

went up to her and told her, like, told her off basically.

And was like, don't do that.

And this girl was very rattled and upset.

And so Georgineo, whose wife is a somewhat famous reality person, posted it on his Instagram story.

And then there was a ton of backlash at Chapel Rones.

And people were making memes about how she hates kids.

And she wants to, like, kill kids and stuff.

So then she posted a video where she was like, I don't know who that security guard is.

I don't hate kids.

I have never done anything like that before.

And I don't even remember seeing this girl or her mom.

And I feel bad for them because that's shitty that that happened to them.

And then a lot of people were like, well, you know, this was your security guy.

What are you talking about?

And like Georgineo's Catherine Harding is her name.

The mom of the daughter was like, you should know if a security guard is representing you.

It's still your fault.

And was liking all these comments bashing Chapel Rones.

And then the security guard who's got like a ton of Instagram followers.

He must be some sort of like security guard influencer.

I'm not sure.

He posted on his Instagram yesterday.

He was not representing Chapel Road.

And he apologized and was like, no one told me to do that.

So this is a whole controversy involving a lot of people with a lot of social media followers.

And Chapel Rone, who has now been apparently banned from performing in Rio by the mayor of Rio

who was very ticked off by this whole thing, even though this incident occurred in São Paulo.

So the tentacles of this run deep jazz, it is insane.

The best part about the mayor banning her from the performance.

It was his second day as the mayor.

Oh, it's a man about action.

He was like elected the day before.

He was elected the day before.

He became the mayor and was like, perfect win for me.

Georgineo's upset.

Let me defend him and kick Chapel Rone out of here.

Yeah, Dave, follow all that.

I have no GD idea.

The whole story that's metanagious.

What the hell?

I haven't heard.

But you know, Jude Law, he's of your era, right?

No, no.

My air is not your business.

The point is I had no idea of it.

I am vaguely aware of the Chapel Rone.

You got it.

Yeah, you got it.

I am aware of her pop prowess.

Yes.

I have children.

The question is.

I know about all this stuff.

It's down in Brazil.

I've never heard a single note of this.

The question is, is she a brat who wanted to tell off this kid

and is now using the bodyguard as the fall guy?

Also worth noting.

She has had a lot of incidents with paparazzi.

She does not like being a famous person, basically.

She wants privacy and obviously it's not afforded to her most of the time.

Which understandable.

But she's gotten in like little dust-ups before.

But the question is, did she use this bodyguard as a fall guy?

She actually did tell him like, hey, go yell at this little 12 year old girl.

Or was this just a complete misunderstanding he acted of his own accord?

Well, can you just go back to this?

Because I can't really render a verdict until I understand what the exchange was.

What is the alleged incident that the Chapel Rone said to a security guard

or to the child directly?

Don't look at me.

Don't make eye contact with me.

Okay.

Now I need to pull up.

He posted a long Instagram story.

And now I want to pull it up and read it to you directly.

So give me a second.

Because the allegation was that he basically came over when they were having breakfast

and quote-unquote was speaking in an extremely aggressive manner

to both my wife and my daughter, saying she shouldn't allow my daughter to,

quote, disrespect or quote, harass other people.

Honestly, I don't know what point simply walking past a table

and looking to see if someone is there can be considered harassment.

He even said he would file a complaint against them with the hotel

while my 11 year old daughter was sitting there in tears.

My daughter was extremely shaken and cried a lot.

So the daughter seems like she had a truly upsetting experience

and it was very traumatic for her to be yelled at by the security guard.

So that does not seem to be a question.

Yeah, but I got a daughter.

Daughters be crying.

The thing about this that's really insane, Dave,

and this is where it gets like spicy is that this security guard who took the fall,

this security guard who took the fall claimed to not be there working on behalf of Chapel Rome.

He's saying, I wasn't chapel's personal security guard.

I also wasn't the hotel security guard.

So the question is, who's security was he?

Who's security was he?

Now this was a music festival, right?

So was he there for one of the other performers?

And he was just there at the hotel.

And what's interesting too is there is a picture posted of the daughter with Louis Capaldi,

another singer who was performing in this festival.

And so the question becomes, was this little girl just running around every table

where there is a celebrity trying to ask to take a picture?

And is she maybe?

Maybe is this family spoiled and entitled and thinking that they deserve a corner with everyone?

Are they?

What I'm saying is, no, I'm saying this is what the internet is saying.

The question is, is it just a reputation preceding her?

I think perhaps we should look at the mother and you'll reveal himself

because included in the Instagram story where they called out Chapel Road in the bodyguard

at the end of it in all caps, quote, without your fans, you would be nothing.

And to the fans, she does not deserve your affection.

So they immediately went on the attack in this Instagram post, which I feel like

this is where I nut out on this, like for the rest of this poor child's life,

she's going to be the girl who was involved in this thing because of her parents,

because her parents decided to make it like a public spectacle

and go after a super famous pop star.

Whether or not you like the pop star or not, I'm not like a huge Chapel Roam fan

by any means.

I'm just trying to look at this objectively.

And now this little girl is always going to be remembered as little girl

who is like sad because Chapel Roam's bodyguard may have been mean to her

or some other random bodyguard was.

And I feel like the parents putting the little girl on blast

and like putting her picture out there and being like,

look how upset my daughter is, it's kind of weird.

I love the idea of this guy not being associated with Chapel Roam at all

and just being a security guard.

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Mr. Mr. Shirt, if I may say for a second.

Miami, they were simulating the snap count in the entire game.

And they were clapping at the line of scrimmage.

And the only thing I want to see clapping are them cheeks.

Mrs. Met in my face, my shirt.

All right, so that's one thing.

Stoogats.

They're a bunch of cheaters, Dan.

And you know who should be cheating?

Mrs. Met on Mr. Met.

And he can watch if he wants.

This is the Don Levertard show with the Stoogats.

Just speaking of the Women's Tournament, I want to make sure I get your opinion here,

because I saw this a few days ago.

You know, last week, we'll look with the Women's Tournament.

I'm wholly uninterested in the first couple of rounds,

because all the games are blowouts.

And...

That's not true.

The first round, the first round, there are some a lot of blowouts.

The second round was awesome.

If you didn't pay attention to the second round, you missed out on a lot of really good games

with the exception of the Yukon Syracuse game, which was in prime time,

which that's a whole other things as that I think...

Well, that's what I want to mention.

Are you about...

Yeah, like the, you know, South Carolina and Yukon as one seed's being on ABC,

while the other games are on ESPN and ESPN2 when in their first round games,

they're going to win by 70 points.

Like they're going to just beat up on these 16 seeds.

I agree with you.

It's...

They're not the most competitive games.

But there are other really competitive games like the Iowa Virginia game,

which was on ESPN in the middle of the work day,

ended up going to double overtime and was a huge upset.

And Virginia became the first team to play in the final four in the Women's Tournament

and advance to the second weekend.

That was a pretty huge game and a huge upset, but, you know, not as...

I mean, not as many people watched it as the...

I think the South Carolina game, which was on at seven o'clock,

which was a few hours later.

But yes, I know you're going to bring up, which is the Syracuse head coach

talking about constantly being seeded in the Yukon sub-regionals.

Is that right?

Yeah.

So like Yukon beat Syracuse last weekend.

I think the score was 98 to 45.

And as Jessica mentioned, like it's on ABC and it's just...

It's a total shellacking.

And so here is the Syracuse head coach.

This is after the game and like she doesn't think it's fair that they have to play Yukon.

But we...

I thought deserved a little more respect after being in his business for 37 years

and to have to come and be in this particular bracket every freaking year

is unacceptable, is wrong.

I mean, Jess, they were the nine seed.

They won a game, so they're going to play the one seed the next round.

It's Yukon.

Like I...

I guess she's saying she's had to play Yukon several times.

We all know Yukon's like almost always one of the best teams.

Like does she have a right to be mad?

Because I don't know.

It sounds like it just, you know, be a seven seed.

And then you don't have to play Yukon in the second round, you know?

Yeah.

She even said like bump us down to a 10.

And then we could go to like Greenville or, you know, or...

Not Greenville.

Columbia plays South Carolina.

Like she was saying...

It was a much longer quote than that.

But she was saying like she feels like it's personal that Syracuse is constantly put in the same group as Yukon.

And that in years where, you know, Syracuse has a potential to be good enough to win a second round game.

They're going up against this juggernaut in Yukon every year and it's not fair.

And so according to ESPN, five of the last seven NCAA tournament appearances that Syracuse has had

have been versus Yukon in the second round.

Three of them have been on Yukon Home Court.

So that is quite a significant amount.

And part of the reason is travel because it's cheaper for Syracuse to rent a bus and drive to, you know, stores

than it would be to fly them to LA to play UCLA or whatever.

So I think she's saying like it's...

Like we've had this, this exact same matchup so many times.

It's lazy bracketing.

Put us in a different group because we're going to lose this game every time we don't have, you know, what...

But you could have also said...

Who's that game the second round of Yukon?

Like everyone's going to.

Yeah, but like that's possibly...

Certainly this year in Yukon is really, really good and it's going to be difficult for any team to beat them.

But I think it's...

She's saying like, you know, let us have a different matchup, basically.

Like it's probably even difficult for her to get fans to come to this game, even though it is close by

because it's like, okay, well it's Yukon and they're going to lose in the second round.

Whereas like she's saying she's not even really getting a chance to play someone different.

She also was the coach at Buffalo before this where they played in the Yukon sub-regional number of times.

So I'm just saying like I think, you know,

it probably wasn't the time in the place for her to do this.

Because it sounds like, you know, okay, skill-issue, be better then.

Like, try to be good enough to beat Yukon.

You know, you're the head coach at Syracuse.

That seems like something that you should be more concerned with.

But I do think there is a point there with just how the brackets are made.

And like just repeatedly giving people the same matchups year in and year out.

Because five of the last seven is pretty...

That's a pretty, you know, large proportion of your tournament appearances that are ending up playing against.

Yukon. And according to Justice Collins on Twitter,

since 2017 Yukon has sent Syracuse home four times in the second round.

And then she said, I looked at our other top teams early on the repeat knockout.

The most is twice plus she played Yukon when she was at Buffalo in 2019.

So other teams are not playing the same team as many times as Syracuse has played Yukon.

I think that's what she was upset with.

And then I think the ESPN article I read Princeton was also like,

you know, seated.

I think they were the overall 34 and Syracuse was...

Yeah, that's been happening.

We got to get on that. Sorry about that, Jess.

But I guess it all boils down to.

I don't think it's so much personal as it is regional.

It's money.

Like all these teams that have played Yukon a bunch are all in the Northeast.

Yeah, it's money.

I mean, and you got to remember, you know, those first couple of weeks they play at home.

There's finances involved there.

Jess, sorry.

We lost your connection.

But make sure you check, Jess out every week.

Notre Dame podcast.

The Echoes with Mike Goliath Jr.

Great job, Jess.

We appreciate you.

Let's do some updating of our brackets.

You have the Midwest region.

We have some round of 32 results.

We need to make sure we catch up on here, guys.

All right.

Number five, Texas Tech.

They were represented by this.

Jalen Brunson looks like the valet driver who lost your keys.

It's a good team.

We lost there.

So they are done and advancing.

They're playing tonight.

They lost to number four Alabama represented by Paul Feinbaum.

Looks like the major D at a fancy restaurant.

All right.

That's a good one.

That's a good one.

In the East region, number seven UCLA.

They are done.

They were represented by Cal Raleigh.

Looks like a motorcycle highway patrol officer.

I thought that was under seated in this tournament.

And they're playing tonight.

But they lost last weekend.

Two number two Yukon represented by Adam Silver.

Looks like a newly opened chapstick.

Strong chapstick around.

All right.

There you go.

So tonight you got St. John's Duke, Alabama, Michigan, Michigan state, Yukon, Tennessee, Iowa state.

I'm in Texas.

I'm in Texas.

Some good games tonight.

Yes.

I wanted to ask Smetana.

Now I ask you.

Smetana.

Were these...

Listen.

Listen.

It's a picture.

Would you like to answer the questions asked?

I would like to...

What was the question?

Yeah.

I mean, that's exactly the point.

Dave.

Yes, but proceed.

What was the question?

What was his question?

What say you, Dave?

Say it.

Just say it.

Just say it.

We parked our cars in the same garage.

He said he was excited.

He said he was excited to watch these games.

Wasn't that...

Wasn't that what he was saying?

Yeah.

It was something like, you know...

Poor thing.

Yeah, it was weird.

We never got to the question.

Oh, excuse me please.

The floor is yours, Dave.

The floor is yours.

I mean, who else would we be excusing?

You're the one who we came in?

Of course.

I didn't know that there was a way we were leading to a question.

All right, please.

Go ahead.

Tony.

Zaz.

You hear that question right there?

What game are you most into? It's St. John's Duke. It's St. John's Duke. That's the game. He's fraud. He's going to the Marlins gives me watching the NCAA tournament. The whole

Oh, whoa. That's a fraud. Or he's lying about watching St. John's Duke. He'll be at the he'll be at the domestic beer bar in the center field watching him. I got a phone. Tony. I'll meet you there. Dave. Dave. What's he? You?

Well, more interesting than what game Tony is going to watch or find most compelling. Here's my fascinating question for you. It's it's whims

originally for Janet though, but now for me, right? That's right. A reheat. A reheat for you. Where these not men's men's basketball matchups, but instead college football matchups, which game would

you find most compelling? Oh, when he's being mentioned in Alabama, Tennessee Iowa State, or do you go back to last night? I

wouldn't Nebraska's pretty juicy Illinois Houston sneaky good Arkansas and Arizona. Okay, if it's on it late night, you might sit there and

watch it and Texas Purdue could be a fun one. Pretty clearly Alabama, Michigan. Yeah, like I feel like we have to cross off

Alabama. I love the idea your game, but every match of you said, not as good as Alabama, Michigan, Iowa, Nebraska's pretty good. If I

would have take out Michigan, Chris is right. You have to cross off Michigan, Alabama. It would be the Citrus Bowl.

Hmm. Hmm. Maybe Texas Purdue. Yeah, I mean, you watch. You have heard of arch. Have you seen that photo of arch doing the play action fake before no one knew

that like the Peyton Manning stiff neck on the play action fake was hereditary until they saw that photo. He looks exactly like him. You guys

see that Marshall Manning, apparently we got a better one. He's like a generation. That's that's Peyton's actual kid at that believe it. Let's let

us do what we're talking about. Right. Well, was that the photo and it wasn't arch. Yeah, it's actually Peyton's kid. Wow, Marshall Manning, then it's directly hereditary.

Sass dancer question, though, it's St John's Duke. That's the best game of the night. St John's Duke is very juicy. I'm

rooting hard for St John's because you know what the hell roots for Duke. And I like patino being in the tournament this

long like patina. It's fun watching with a team that like can't really shoot is like it's a weird team that's

like specifically built for the big east. It's like they can't really do a lot of things. They like to muck up the

game. Duke is bit has been vulnerable at times. And I want to see the pressure. St John's going to put it's a team that

wants one 17 minutes without scoring. Correct. This season. And patino threatened to kill himself because they

missed free thrust, which is boss. Obviously, the hype train. If St John's wins tonight, Duke is a six and a half

point favorite according to drafting sports book. St John's wins tonight. The hype is going to be at a fever pitch

heading into the regional finals Sunday. Does he does he come in with the white suit? All white tonight or no,

it would be a power move if you did feels like the night to do it. It's like you're playing Duke. You look

across. You got the boozer twins. You got a bunch of five star guys. And you look at your team. It's a bunch of

rag tag bunch bad news. Beards comes with the with the cream suit with the red tie means business as what

shirt on the cream one. Is there any coach that wears the suit now? Any coach that breaks this new thing of

wearing tracks? I feel like Mike Cronin was wearing a suit. What's he? Yeah. Yeah. That's the answer.

Oh, Dan Hurley tonight. Dan Hurley wears a suit. Oh, yeah.

Oh, is that Bill Murray's kid that just got that BC job? Oh, maybe I know he was an assistant with Yukon. Yeah, yeah,

he just I think he's getting the BC job. Dave, what say you? He works. He works hard.

All right. I mean, Dave, you're playing rigging mortis. What's going on?

Hey, guys, I know I didn't have the possibility of that Bill Murray's child. I have no idea if that's Bill Murray's

child. I'd say something. It is indeed. I didn't know. Bill Murray, the actor Bill Murray has a child.

You're talking about a different Bill Murray. Who is his child? Who's wise enough?

No, it's wise enough about the sport of basketball. Finance here to be that to be the head coach of

a basketball. He works hard. He works hard. Remarkable. That's pretty rangy stuff from from the Murray family. Is that

would have been great 15 seconds of actors? He's just learning about this too, Shay.

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