The Bronze Age of Horror Comics! Creepy 38, 1971 w/Kirby!

Hey everybody, it's your pal Billy D here back with another episode of the bronze age of horror comics

And this is going to be another issue of the Warren magazine creepy

Which of course means my buddy Kirby is going to be here to talk about it with me

He picked a great one cannot wait to dive into this one

You know I'm pretty much leaving it up to him. You know, unless there's something that really jumps out at me

I'm you know giving him carte blanche to pick the issues. So he picked a dandy here

I cannot wait to get into it right after a quick break

Hey

Hey everybody welcome to another edition of the bronze age of horror comics and this is continuing coverage of Warren magazine's

Specifically in this episode creepy and that means of course my partnering crime for these recordings is here with me

And that is Kirby how are you doing this morning my friend?

I'm doing really really good Billy. I'm really excited to kind of talk this issue of creepy here

Yeah, I've you know, I think I said to you like hey, let's try issue one in the very first recording to kind of set the table and let people know

What they're going to be in for and just it made sense to start with number one

But I'm not doing any kind of an index with the creepy and area here

I'm gonna bounce all over the place and I kind of I can't even remember if I threw a suggestion or two year away or just said

Hey throw some my way and you threw some my way and you know

This is our third recording and we're gonna be tackling issue 38 and it's one that you suggested and right away from the cover

I knew we were in for something fun here

I just was like oh this cover looks fantastic. I'm a sucker for painted covers

You know whether we're talking Boris Vallejo or any of the other guys or and in this case Ken Kelly and that's a name

I don't see a ton of I think maybe he may have done some Hulk magazine covers that I've seen

But he's he's right up there. He's a fantastic artist kind of reminds me of Richard Corbin a little bit

But what do you think of this cover 38 here?

I actually kind of thought was Richard Corbin until he told me otherwise

Because just doing a quick glance. It's like oh, okay. He did a bunch of like cone in the barbarian book covers

Like a heavy metal cover or com or albums

Oh my god that makes perfect sense and

The guy with the act it really kind of reminding me a bit of the shining

You know, here's Johnny and all that

Just these very

Again heavy metal bats just flying all around them. I'm like, okay. I need to see what's going on here

Mm-hmm and best of all it actually plays into one of the stories

Yeah, you can't go wrong there um, you know

And it's funny you mentioned the shining because that book didn't come out until like the late 70s

So this is kind of a maybe Stephen King got a little inspiration here

But yeah

No, not at all and like you said I think the guy that the figure here

He looks very Richard Corbin to me his face his facial features his hands this guy running

Away from some shenanigans with an axe and there are one two three four at least four or five bats after him

Actually another I'm looking at it looks like one is attached to his leg biting his leg

Yeah, there's like two on his leg and I just noticed this and look maybe

The top half or third of the cover is like a giant

Back like closing around them maybe

Mm-hmm. Yeah, I don't know if that's supposed to be a mouth or a gate of something

I don't know where this guy's supposed to be. I don't know if he's trying to get that out of hell or purgatory here or something

But there's like these like

Flames and smoke and cloudiness behind them. It's it's

I there's no way we can do it enough justice that I definitely go to you know like Grand comic state of base or Mike's amazing world

Somewhere like that and look up the cover to creepy 38. It's like I said

So the incredible painted cover and a guy with an axe and bats. You can't go wrong. You've got me already

Just absolutely I'm sorry. I don't like I said there's not much more I can add. This is like picture worth a thousand words

Mm-hmm. We got the creepy logo at the top which is fantastic

It says first magazine of illustrated horror creepy and it's almost like

I don't know if you would call that like dripping blood or teeth or what's going on there with that logo

But it's it's a really good logo isn't it

Immediately recognizable logo and that's important and kind of a lost art

Mm-hmm

I'll go creepy up there in the corner box and then it says read if you dare secret of the haunted room

On page 41 and then at the very bottom this issue an incredible fantastic story the cosmic all and uh

That's that's that's that's a you know tipping my hand here that that's might be my favorite of the entire book

But we'll get into it

Again, um this was another like razor thin margins between like which ones my favorite

Mm-hmm. Yeah, there was only one that I thought was noticeably below the others

But you know we'll get there we'll get there

No, I was just gonna say interesting. I'm wondering if we're thinking the same one if we might have a difference on

Because there's one of them speaker for me too

Mm-hmm. So like I said creepy number 38 this one was covered in March 1971

But it actually came out like right before Christmas

1970 so that's actually pretty cool guys. This would have been a great Christmas present. I tell you right now

But yeah, then you're stocking

Mm-hmm awesome painted cover by Ken Kelly and you know a lot of times they would have just a quick little one

Pager on the inside cover and they do have that here. This one's called killer plants

And uh, it's you know, you know creepies load load some lore

And he does a bit of an intro here. He says ever notice that a supermarket how they separate the produce from the meats

Don't laugh. There may be a good reason for it

Let's go back to the days of the open air markets and take a look at some vile vegetables

But don't turn your back on them because they may be killer plants and

We we get a a stone age setting here. Don't we with this guy? Yeah, no, we yeah, we have a

Okay, very Tarzan looking guy

fighting a bunch of like creeping jungle finds which is one of those things I always sell in cartoons as a kid

I'm like, oh these are clearly a problem like man not so much

Also Venus fly traps not nearly as like cool as they thought they were

Mm-hmm, and I will say too

I bought a Venus fly trap at one point a few years ago during covid and

I killed it and not intentionally. I think I overfed it

It was one of these deals where you buy it at the you know an exotic plant shop and there were I think there are multiples in the little container

And I had them in the window so I was reading up on it

It's like give them a little light but not a lot of life a little bit of dark but not too much dark and I like okay

Okay, this seems a little more complicated, but um, you know, it's not like I have a lot of bugs flying around my house

So I thought well, what are they going to eat unless I

Catch stuff and kind of force feed them and it said you can't do that so I did I'd be like oh look

There's a fly I'd catch the fly and if you put the fly in its mouth

It would snap it down and then in a few days later. It would be gone

But again, I think I just was like oh the fly is gone already here have another one like you know five days later

And I think they're only supposed to eat like you know one a month or something

So I think I overfed it

That's what it said to my is happened there, but it was really fun for the few months

I had it and it was going to town there. I thought it was one of the coolest things ever

And now we have Cliff Jackson art and story with this a Neanderthal guy who's being attacked by these

Vegetation here, you know these vines grabbing them choking them and you know it to get it's it's a one little one pager

But I did think to myself Cliff Jackson. I've never heard of this guy

I was wondering if it was a pseudonym, but it isn't it was just some random guy named Cliff Jackson and

He did a few

Creepy and eerie

Stories and then he worked for a thing called AC comics, which I got to admit. I've never heard of before

A couple issues. He did a first comics

Sable and I've heard of first comics, but he didn't spend a whole lot of time in the business

basically these few creepies and eeries in the early 70s and then the AC and first comics mid to late 80s and then

BAM he was out of comics basically by 1990. Oh wow. Okay, so it's just it was just Sable that would have been after

My gorilla left it when

More wolf and was writing that title for a little bit interesting. Okay

Yeah, and I mean rank comics database here. They don't have any information on this guy at all not a year born

Death anything absolutely nothing and I was like oh, okay, you know man of mystery here, but again, it's a

For something a one-page book or one page book a one-page story is really hard to pull off to

Leave any kind of mark, you know, this it's just basically like this big L shaped

Image of this like caveman getting

attacked by this living plant and three paragraphs of you know, exposition and that's it and again

It's okay. It's fun, but it's it's definitely nothing to write home about right

Yeah, but I appreciate that this is probably just you know

That there was a little lecture something you got when you picked this this magazine out. So

Yeah, yeah

Yeah, I feel like Marvel a lot of their magazines in the 70s. They would have like a piece of artwork there

And I kind of feel like that would have worked better just have this cliff Jackson guy draw a really cool

You know have creepy up there with his intro and then just a really cool

You know art piece there a fronches piece. I think they usually called it that would be fine too, but boy oh boy

In the trade here

To the left is that page and then you look over to the right and we get our

Table of contents page and I love how creepy and eerie do this where they have the big logo across the top

They let you know all of the people that contributed to the magazine

They don't tell you who did what story right out of the gate though, but they do show you that there's going to be six stories in here

And there's just like one little panel

It could be a bigger panel shrunken down, but one little panel three on the left three on the right and in the middle of contents

Like what do you think of that page the way they lay that out?

I really like and I especially that the for the dark horse republishing they have tweaked the page numbering. So we'll actually match with

um

Where it is in the collection and I think they pick in some cases they just give away the the ending of at least one of the keys, which is

Wild to me, but

um

Right way if you're looking at the like not just the artist writers this issue including Gerald Conway and I'm like

And was he only like 19 or 20 here? He's a kid right in this his story

Yeah, I have seen that in some of his early work

They would credit him that way and I always wondered if that was

The way he said he wanted to be credited or they just assumed I just always

Wondered about that because of course nobody knows him that way everybody knows him as Jerry Conway

I mean once he got into his spider-man run, which is the

You know one of the most famous reasons he's famous you know death of Gwen Stacy, of course

Nobody said Gerald Conway was Jerry Conway, but even some of his earlier efforts at Marvel the first couple

I feel like they may have used Gerald as well. So I always thought that was bizarre

Again

Yeah, okay, kid

Yeah, yeah, yeah, fine fine fine

That this is how you always picture the editors just whenever they get stuff like that like whenever they're looking at the names

Most of the time

Yeah, this one says editor and publisher James Warren of course Jim Warren and then associate editor, which I'm assuming

That means that's the guy that really was hands-on with the book here and uh

Basically setting everything up and making sure everything was the way it was supposed to be was a archie good when you know a legend of the business

Uh, he was in the business for a long time and just everybody loved that guy

Never heard a bad word about that guy and anything I've ever read everybody seems to love archie good one

Yeah, well like one of the legends and I made a think point of saying the late 90s because he was edited in starman pretty much up until his death

So

Oh, yeah, okay, so if Archie's the you know the more contributing editor

Nikola Cutie, I'm wondering if like she was like did one or two of them or of the stories or however that works

I have no idea

He that's actually a guy he actually yeah, he actually just passed away within the last couple of years

He was a guy that I think I first saw his work in Charlton books if I'm not mistaken writing some Charlton stories

And obviously, you know, I think he may have written in some creepy in area as well

And obviously I can say a contributing editor here. I'm not sure what that meant maybe uh

Maybe we can find out through uh, you know the the back matter somewhere and uh, you know

Deep dive on him on another episode

But yeah, he he was definitely a guy that he was one of those guys that you never you never made it big

You know, he was never like a big Marvel DC guy where he was you know writing a a continuing series that was you know

Very highly lauded or anything like that almost like a journeyman type guy

But I do know that name like I said I'm pretty sure I first discovered him in Charlton

Books but then here he is now, but yeah, I know he just passed away within the last

Boy, you know, I feel like everybody's lost track of time in the last five or six years

But it's somewhere somewhere in the recent years he passed away

Yeah, good good editor. I think and writing as well like I said

I'm the fan of what I've seen in his writing as well

Yeah, so then now we're going to just look quickly at the letters page

So a creepy they put the letters pages right up front before he even dove into the new stories and uh, there's a cool illustration

I wasn't there

Yeah, uh, so we were talking to Richard Corbin and dang if there isn't a Richard Corbin are

Right here in the letters page. So hey, we're pretty close

Yeah, it says this scene from Richard Corbin's art of frozen beauty stone Steve Kassau

And it's a very disturbing image, but then a Corbin did do some very disturbing stuff

Oh, oh, yeah, and then a cool subscription ad on the opposite page there as well

You can get 12 issues of creepy for $7. Oh boy. Can we go back in time here Kirby?

Got a man I wish for these prices absolutely without a doubt

And I mean, I'm not complaining these fantastic reprints in these

paperbacks that

Dark horse puts out you're getting what I'm 44 like five issues of creepy

For basically less than $20, you know, if you get these

Through one of the discount sites you can usually get these for like anywhere from

$17 like let's just say around there

So you're getting basically five four five magazines for $70 bucks. That's that's really cheap compared to today's prices

But I would still rather 12 for $7

Yeah, uh, okay, this is for the monsters

Magazine I

It's one of those things I recognize that image. I just can't place like the movie or whatever that's from

So that that issue of famous monsters

I think it used to be called famous monsters with film land and then they just changed it to famous monsters

That I think that I'm pretty sure that had come out before creepy an area

I think Warren was doing that before they came out with those and that is a

An image. I think Basil Gogo's did that and it's from London after midnight, which is a lost film sadly

with

Oh gosh, who was in that one? Is it Lon Cheney senior maybe I would love to see that film

It's from the very late 20s. I think if not very early 30s

It was before Universal got started with the Frankenstein and Dracula and all that stuff

So late 20s very early 30s there, but yeah lost film sadly

Oh dang and boy, I'm sure to have that you try and walk my way through that thing. Oh, yeah, no

I've seen a hundred times

Yeah, that's that's one that you know, it seems like over the years like the last few decades

There have been lost films and then oh, hey, they they found a copy in you know a vault in Spain somewhere

And they end up finding certain movies which is fantastic

But still no luck on that one, which is really sad. I hope before I'm in the grave

They find a copy of that one because I would love to see that movie. There are stills of it

I don't think there's any

Reels or anything at all of the actual movie it's just you can find stills here and there

You know one of the my favorite accounts on Twitter is

It used to be at horror hammer one, but I think he might have had to change his thing

But it's it's literally the best horror movie account on there. He's got like a hundred and some thousand followers

It's a it's a good he posts up all the time and he'll put out stills of

Is London after midnight the ones that you know you can find he puts them out every once in a while

It's a joy to see but kind of sad in the same way

Yeah

Okay, so all right. Let's dive into the first story here

So this one's called wooden cross. It's a six-pager by Steve skates and rich buckler pencils and inks and letters by Ben Oda

And this is a good one here. So this kind of reminded me of a movie. I don't know if you've ever seen it Kirby

It's from 1959. It's one of the last universal horror films. It's called Curse of the Undead

From 1959 have you ever seen that movie?

No, I'm actually pretty good with universal horror, but I think I missed that one

Yeah, that one definitely look it up. I don't know if it's public domain or not

Because you can usually find it floating around on YouTube and you know places like that probably even to be

Definitely check it out. It's it's a vampire western

It's really cool and it kind of reminded me of this story a little bit. This is wooden cross

I mean obviously with a name like that and the splash page. We kind of know the road

Steve skates is going down here, right

Yeah

without a doubt and just

horror westerns in general. I'm a I have a real soft spot for you

We don't get that many like even you know

Outlog through right now high-plains director bone Tom Hock to

slightly more modern ones, but

Yeah, I just also love seeing rich buckler do a horror sword which I feel is out like why would usually associate him with

He does a really good job here

Yeah, usually he just for me is always like superheroes whether it's you know

Also our squadron or Avengers here and there or whatever. Yeah, I just same same thing here

Usually it's you know just capes for a rich buckler, but yeah, he did a good job here

You know, there's a guy in a graveyard. He shows up at this old town in the old west saying hey is a his uncle

Jeb had written him a letter saying there was some trouble if he could come out here and give him a hand and

You know, there's a guy here to graveyard and he's like hey, yeah, wait the plague took him and I will say too

I'm pretty sure you know rich buckler here and and Warren you know

It's 1977 late 70 early 71 here, but still it wasn't commonplace to see you know a black character here

And that's who's at the graveyard here talking to the guy, right? Yep, absolutely and again, it's great

It's just like yep. No, this is the guy he you know

Just kind of seeing him and he's like hey, I'm just giving you the lowdown and

Of like the plague comes on sudden like one day you're feeling fine then the next day

You're lying there dead all pale and lifeless your uncle was the first to be hit by it. It's like okay

And again, obviously winning cross

Leads you probably down the right direction, but I'm like I couldn't remember

100% how this story went down, so

Ah just great to see

Yeah, and then the caretaker here says

There's a guy

Um Bradley who runs just about everything in town and he hangs out at the local saloon and this

This guy says oh, okay, well, you know, you could see he's like I'm gonna go check this guy out and

Before he does that we see a an old doctor, you know, it says walk slowly up from the basement worried depressed

And was making sure the door was locked securely and then somebody says dr. Finch

I'd like to speak with you a moment and he goes what and it's our buddy from the graveyard here

He says oh, hello there young man. What can I do for you? And he knows it's about Jeb white

He was my uncle you examine the body when I was wondering are you sure it was a plague that killed him

Couldn't have possibly happened some other way and the doctors like what do you mean some other way?

And he's like oh no, no, no, he died from a sickness

But you can see through Buckler's illustrations here that the doctor is very nervous in being questioned, right? Oh

Without a doubt, it's like

You know he's something solving

Again, granted because these first three pages are just pretty much a straight western like you'd see a Jonah heck started like this

I say it's like okay, we did

Uh, there's a man of it, uh, you know, if he guy who runs the town to eat kind of hate the doctor to cover it up

Or what have you but

I will soon see that as not the case um because he then goes

Um goes to the sling goes so that's Brad Bradley. He certainly looks like a type who would kill people around here or say he runs the town

As though he were a dictator better to keep my eye on him

And he looks exactly like you would expect he's you know got the typical cowboy hat on he's got this

Some sideburns here. He's smoking a a stokey and he's playing cards

So you know like you said it very much just a western here with a little bit of a mystery that looks like you know

Just maybe a murder had taken place and you know, maybe some coercion or whatever with the doctor to cover it up as the plague

So

That's that's all well and fine, but man you get hit right in the face on the next page here as our main character is a walking around town

And here's a muffled scream and it sounds like a woman and he goes and he sees a woman on some steps lying there

And you can clearly see there's two puncture marks in her neck with blood streaming out

So now we're firmly into the the creepy and not the western right

Yeah, and it's like

Just immediately no way these marks on her neck vampirism. Yes

Now it all makes sense

This plague is nothing but vampirism

Bradley leaves the light on in his office while he slips out probably in the form of a bat

That scum killed my uncle and now he's praying on the rest of the town. It's like

Okay, if there wasn't a fact there was clearly the two puncture marks and like you made a big leave

But what I really like is you know right from behind him. He's see you know

We see the silhouette what's the big things coming out as the guys who has been are at least his attack

in kill by the vampire

Yeah, and I mean I think creepy and eerie in those stories that are like you know your six seven pages typical page count

Usually I always feel like by the end of the story

Yeah, that was that was good

You know that whoever was the scripter and the artist they told a really good complete story for six or seven pages

And I'm satisfied, but I can tell you this by the time I got the mystery

I was like well dang. I wish they could have

You know maybe had a few more pages here to expand on this story a little bit

But yeah be that as it may. Yeah, the our lead character here gets attacked and killed

You see the fangs going in his neck and he gets bit and then we see a graveyard

It says and as the young glad fell dead to the ground a strange sound came from the graveyard

Way on the other side of town

And then we do see the other side of town where he was at earlier

And then at that point it says a cry of pain and despair and there was movement among the graves

And we can clearly see it's the grave that his uncle is buried in that we saw at the very beginning

Of the story right

So yeah, so there now there's a graveyard scene here right

Yeah, one more and it's like

I was it and as the young lad fell dead to the ground a strange sound came from the graveyard way on the other side of town

A cry of pain and despair and there was movement among the graves

Well, well elsewhere the doctor is right now and going he got away

I tried to lock him in the basement, but it didn't go good. He busted down the door and

So clearly the doc knows what's going on

Yeah, we're beginning to see sort of what's going on here and the doctor knows something

But he doesn't want to talk about it

He had somebody locked up in the basement

So yeah, you can put two and two together think okay. He had his vampire locked up in the basement

We don't quite yet know why though, but he thinks sooner or later someone's bound to learn the truth

Oh, why am I cursed with a son like this? So his basically again put two and two together his sons of empire

He was trying to keep him locked up instead of doing the right thing and driving a stake through his heart

But yeah, the the doctor's son laughed a bit as he walked away from you know the man

He just killed and all of a sudden. Where do you think you're going? Finch? You can't hide from me

Nor can you escape the fate? I planned for you and the vampire turns around and goes, huh?

Let's just stay right where you are

We're going to have this right out right here and then who are you? What's this all about?

He says you killed me and now you've killed my nephew

So we see it isn't the father that came to confront this vampire. It's oh well another vampire, right?

Oh, is it another vampire? I was working for out if it was that or if it was like

The the sheriff's ghost or something, but that makes way more sense if it's his own vampire

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking of zombie something

Something in it the ending isn't super clear

We just get two panels of you know our vampire who are going no it can't be your dead stay away

No, and then we get the final panel which you know obviously the the name of the story is given that away a little bit

But what about that last panel there?

This is a movie poster in a half if I ever saw one

Because all we see now is in the next morning the steaming skeleton of the vampire with the wooden cross just shoved right through his heart and it's

That's a I'm sorry that gets me that gets my butt in the seat if that's a movie poster

Yeah, you're not kidding. I mean there's even still a little blood there seeping out of the skeleton and then it says

The doctor found what was once his son's body a wooden stake him and driven through his heart

A wooden stake that is part of a wooden cross

So and there's a bunch of towels people there a gas as well thinking like oh no what happened

So yeah, that was a good one. I like that one quite a bit. That's that's one of my favorites from this one. What do you think?

Absolutely, I mean like Steven ski to I most know if you're like I think aquaman stories from the 70s

It's like yeah, he knows how to do like a six seven page or here and he delivers

a lot like you said it's

I'm kind of glad

Killing the or who was our lead like two three pages before the end really good choice

Just narratively and all of that it really helps it stand out

Yes, pretty shocking, but yeah, I'd say four out of five here for me

That one was really really good, but okay, well, let's move on to the vengeance of the hanged and this is an interesting one

So it's a script by Chris Felner again a name I've never heard of

Pencils and he's Sid shores and letters gene Simec and Sid shores. I know him from inking some gene colon here and there from

You know, I think dare devil and some war books for Marvel a long time guy there

But there's Chris Felner just a couple of creepies and erys and maybe some stuff over in is it Spain possibly

I'm trying to look at flags here and

And that's that's all I get from him. There's there's literally like 10 credits on the grand commis database for him

So not very long lives in the comic book is at least anything that's on that website

But you know, this is an interesting one so we get the introduction here from local creepy. He says London 1840

Punishment is swift and efficient for the criminal but not always just

Many an innocent man has swung from the gallows at west with prison

So they say the victims of that notorious hanging judge

Jason Morgan and so it is so it is on the spright summer day that what trap is about to be dropped another soul swung into eternity to wait for

The vengeance of the hanged and uh, we had a great scene here to open this one, don't we?

Oh gee and

Again Sid shores just draws the heck out of it because you have the guy going

But I tell you I'm innocent as you know literally with the new surround his neck

And it's just let's see the scoundrel dance

Get it get on with it hang him. He's just like I'm telling you I didn't do it and we have pretty graphic

Visual of him just of his neck getting cracked a snap

As he gets on

Yeah, that's brutal that is really brutal and then the

I don't know if you'd call him the hangman there

But the guy with the hood over his head. He's a real creepy looking dude too there. Oh it

Again, just that executioner is just so for because he's like all in black

Which really kind of helps him stand out against like the background and everything

Mm-hmm. Yeah, and then we see there's a lawyer here

And I think it's the guy that was the lawyer for this poor sap that got hung saying to the judge like you know

Hey, man

You're a sicko. I knew you'd be here to enjoy this and the guy kind of says to him

You still trying to cause trouble and the guys like you know that man was innocent yet you condemned him to death

You have no conscience and it does seem pretty quickly here like we're gonna see that this judge Morgan

It's just the he loves he just gets his jolly's off a hanging guys whether they're innocent or guilty, right?

I know because because we even see like the the lawyer, you know

He's working like he's burning the midnight oil with amp B just trying to

You know tell him like you know you're working too hard. You can't you can't fight the the law

Here and after that we cut to the scene of like you know to breathe

Brave diggers going down we go another one for the collection

I made one more uh one more victim of judge Morgan's justice. You know, Ralph

I'd hate to be in the judge's boots when he goes to hell and meets all those bloke see hangs

You've got a point there mate. He he he and it's like

Man, it's so he's so the judge is so corrupt even like these two schmucks know it

Mm-hmm. I love a little foreshadowing there too. That's just fantastic

But and then there's another court case where the judge

Yeah, this judge Morgan is saying yep, he's gonna be hanging right in the neck till he's dead and the lawyers

Just like no way like there's not enough evidence here. He's innocent and he really starts winging out

He says this is an outrage my may god forgive you judge Morgan the blood of another innocent man is on your hands

And then judge Morgan is his chambers knows that fool Kent. I had to condemn his client to reach teach him a lesson

No one shall oppose me. I sounds like judge dread here. I am the law

This is great and he goes and these executions my influence and power through terror will soon have me in control

The politicians and the government will be mine and somebody else gets hung and crack and he's like

So he's a real sadistic. I guess I'll be this guy. Oh, you're just waiting for the ending to see how bad this guy gets it

And they they the judge goes back and forth again with the lawyer and the lawyer's just like hey man

I'm gonna go above your head and I'm going to you know get you

He doesn't say disbarred, but you know something like that and then the guy thinks humbug the souls of those I've hanged indeed

Nothing can stop me even the dead and

On his way home judge Morgan passes through the pauper cemetery where the victim of his lust for power have been laid to rest and he goes

Strange that boning sound like voices in agony. It can only be the wind

But what is this feeling? I have of accusing eyes watching me. I must be coming down with a sickness so hard to breathe and

That night we see him in bed struggling with some nightmares here and what what happens to judge Morgan here

Well, okay before I can say anything else. I was gonna say sit yours are for these first couple pages has been really good

But as soon as the nightmare starts it just kicks up another level as

He gets he wakes you know in his nightmare

You know in his cap and gown he goes what what where am I what am I doing here welcome Jason Morgan

We have been waiting for you. He just sees in the you know misty dark graveyard three

I call him grim reapers just

Staring over and pulling at a tombstone like it's the in the christmas Carol

Mm-hmm. Yeah, the like you said sit yours again. Not one of those people

Like we mentioned in the previous story rich Buckler not one of those names that springs to mind when you think horror

But wow seeing a story like this. I think I wish I want to see more sit yours a horror because these skeleton grim reaper types

It kind of reminds me of those uh

Tooms of the blind dead movies that those Spanish movies from the 70s those were a bunch of guys a skeleton guys

And they'd be on horseback and riding around in these like get out. It's kind of similar to this kind of reminding me of that

I was like man, this is super creepy and they're they're gonna hold a trial. They're gonna put Morgan on trial, aren't they?

Yeah, oh before I forget sit yours. He did do a lot of westerns specifically. I did look that up

So that makes total sense why he'd be doing this sorry, but it's that

just one of the

I'm gonna call him grim reapers goes look Jason Morgan a court the dead shall sentence the living

Good good lord. Why can't I wait from this nightmare

We the condemned in the dead and the innocent victims of your lust for power

Hereby declare this court in session we accuse you Jason Morgan of willfully murdering us

For your own vile purposes. How do you plead and?

Oh, we get some good face. We get some good expressions here. Don't wait

Yeah, he runs treasure runaway screaming and it it's kind of funny even though it's not because the guys get killed by a bunch of like

You know the undead here, but he's it is a nightgown and cap here running away with his hands on his face

This is insane. I'm innocent and uh, he's not going anywhere

So they grab him in the the air quotes judge says

This is the record of sins the marks are many against you Jason Morgan your plea of innocence is hereby

Ignored and for your punishment the noose and wow how about that last panel on that page there. Oh

Wow, it is again sure it's just draw like the terror in this guy's face is he's getting it's just deserts

Just every like he's just

Sweating and crying and

He's a mess as he's about again the meat his face

Hmm the noose is right in front of his face, right? Yeah, just all right there and he tried he takes a swing at one at

The hanging ghoul

Yeah, he punches him

Must escape them, but the effort part can't take it you cannot get away Jason Morgan your fate is sealed

Stop Jason Morgan you must become one of us. He's just let me go let me go

Oh

As he's now in the news against a really good full moon background shot

Yeah, stop. This is a dream. You can't kill me. I won't let you and then he does wake up and he's like head is spinning and he's you know

Clutching his thing as a good lord such a horrible nightmare my heart. I could have died from the shock

What's that and he turns and look and what's in the bedroom?

Uh the another ghoul with the news a kind of like in a nightmare announced street movie never be sure you're awake

He's gonna end up like Johnny Depp in nightmare down street

And the next day Peter Kent who was the lawyer that was trying to fight against his corruption

pays a visit to Jason Morgan's home accompanied by a police officer and he says

I've come to the warrant for the arrest of judge Jason Morgan my evidence against him

Has grown too large to be ignored we should like to see him immediately and

Alfred here. Let's just call him says. I'm afraid you've come too late, sir

And then another guy there the doctor says I am Dr. Reynolds Jason Morgan is dead in the copper says what show us and

We go to his bedroom and see him and I will admit to I didn't notice this at first

It took me a little bit to get this but when we see previously Morgan when he was alive

He was more of a

Punchy kind of dude, you know, let's just say he had a little weight to him and now when we see him dead in his bed

He looks like he's just skinned bones doesn't he?

You know, I didn't notice that until you just said it

But you can absolutely see way more of like the fingers or the bones in this hand you're absolutely right

I didn't notice that

Yeah his face even looks like drawn out like anything you look at the top panel even when the news was coming towards him

It looks thinner and I'm assuming shores did this on purpose and they say look

You know, there he is dead in the bed and there's rope burns around his neck isn't there

Oh and again

So good because it's like they think he just had a heart attack, but

I don't understand out in like the doctor basically says I don't know how this happened

But look fresh rope burns as if from a news and

Got love this little outro with Uncle creepy no no need for us to hang around

Warner and where those marks came from a general readers

So what else is noose

On the yard arm. It's great

Yeah, that is fantastic. I love that great outro and fantastic story

I would give that a four out of five as well. I mean, that was a really solid story in the artwork

Like you said, it was great up until the the supernatural aspects came into play

But once that kicked in it. I feel like Sid shores brought it up another level

Yeah, and honestly after these two issues. I I was kind of hoping like man. Can we just have like a

An issue that's just like

Or westerns here because I'm kind of here for it

Mm-hmm. Yeah, absolutely. It's great great stuff, but wow. Okay. Well, let's move on to the next one

So this one's called sticks and stones to break their bones and it's all cool creepy

It's speaking of creepy. This is creepy

Nothing but a caveman style like a little underwear skirt slash

Made of like animal skin and he says

Good evening beloved nephews and nieces uncle creepy has a story for you about professor Arnold Jenkins

That's him down there surrounded by paintings and statues. He's accumulated from curious little curio shops throughout the years

Our story starts off quietly but finishes with sticks and stones

To break their bones and I will say right out of the gate here

The artwork here is that here that the team here is Stuart Schwartzberg again

No clue on him as a writer and then on the actual trade here it says art by Tony William soon

And but when you go and look at any website. It's it's a you know, it's soon in them and then like the guy's name is Bill

Fraccio Fraccio

And inks by Tony Tallerico so I was like oh okay, but those names don't ring a bell with me either

That that that that's so weird because I none like you said none of those rang a bell for me at all

And I'm like where is this got like

On the one hand it's kind of cool because I maybe I don't have any preconceived notions of what to expect from these people

But at the same time it's like when I really like him

It's like I would like to know more about you guys come on. What's going on here?

And the writer he if you look up his credits

It's you know Warren magazines and then you know Marvel magazines

But it was like all like the you know the the spoof in like comedy stuff not brand-eck crazy magazine

That's like almost all of his credits. It's it's you know kind of like crazy stuff like that cracked magazine

That's that's basically all of his stuff there

So I was like okay, well, you know, hey everybody has a you know something they're good at or a specialty and I guess his stuff was

You know that kind of stuff, but like I said the art team here as well, you know looking up that bill

Frascio

Kind of guy I he'd been around since the golden age 1943

Air fighters comics and he was doing westerns and stuff like that. He even did an EC story in the crypt of terror

So this guy I can't believe I'd never heard of this guy before but he had romance comics even he had done a ton of work

You know all the way up into uh, you know

You know, obviously into the 70s here, but I like I said I I don't mind seeing new names

I've never seen before in a comic book as long as I like the artwork then I'm like okay

I just might get me to try to buy more of their stuff, right?

Uh

100% and I'm wondering if maybe for like uh the stew Schwartz work like if in addition to all that he was mostly like maybe a

Pro writer at the telling my I didn't look into that

Yeah, it could be because places like grand comics database and all they don't list pro stuff

They just show the comic work. So he could be yeah could be writing you know other things magazines and stuff like that too

He could have written for but yeah, this is an interesting one. So this uh our buddy here. That's the professor

He there's like a twist ending to this one. He has a you know a piece of like a stone

And it shows like a Native American guy with a gun and he's like talking to himself

And he's like all these things I found at these Curio shops are you know stuff from the past but they're showing

These warriors with weapons from the future that weren't even invented yet. So he's he can't really figure it out

And then all of a sudden he's like I got it

Why didn't I think of this before and he packs up all this stuff and go close to the Pentagon of all places

And you know you can tell this is the 70s because some random guy walks up to the Pentagon and says hey

I want to let you know take me to your leader

I have some very important stuff. I need to tell him just a random guy with suitcases

And they just like oh sure come right on into the Pentagon. It's like wait

Yeah

That's not happening anymore

Yeah, and he goes in there and talks to the general and he explains to the general that he thinks there's like

As the way he says he goes

I'm professor Arnold Jenkins and these are artifacts that collected over the past 50 years

Look don't you see anything strange about all of it and he goes all I could see Mr

Is that you cluttered my table with a ton of junk from every game concession in Coney Island and he goes

No, listen please look at these paintings of a battle scene with an atomic explosion in the background

And this painting of a dogfight between two jets all of these things are on the table were created long before any of the weapons depicted were invented

and the general goes

Eriches this Jenkins the answer to all this has eluded me for 50 years suddenly last night

It came to me all the frightening new weapons of the 20th century have been invented before

There must be a force call it God or whatever you want a force that destroys these weapons when it decides

Mankind is perilously close to destroying himself

The force then reduces mankind's knowledge of weapons to spears and stone axes and wipes out the memory of the sophisticated weapons

And the general looks at it and says until man gets around to rediscovering these weapons and he goes precisely

Then the force intervenes again. Oh, you do believe me. Don't you and the general goes

I'll tell you what I believe you're a raving dingaling

Somebody get the mp's to throw this nut out of here and they do throw them out, but what's the twist here at the end?

The twist here is that you know the generals in marina they're brand new weapon

As I was saying the ultimate weapon are powerful new catapults can her a bigger rocks over the highest walls anywhere

and it's like a

This is a twilight zone episode into half

Yes, that's exactly what I thought like almost like a crazy time blooper something here. That's that's the part of this story, right

Yeah, 100 it's like

This story just kind of as easily ended with rods certainly because I can everything. It's like no

This isn't some new hyper mega atomic bomb nope catapult now even a tribus a catapult

And I love creepy here. I'll go creepy to end it here getting walked on the head with a little stone

He says hmm looks like the military is about to send us catapulting into a new era where everyone winds up stone

So yeah, so that's uh that's the good good outro on that one there

But all right, but so what did you think of that would over rock like this one is fun

It honestly could have it's like what six pages

It could but it even honestly out could have been like two or three

Because I you kind of know the punchline here the thing I really want to highlight though is on um

I think the fourth page when he's showing the general the tablets

like uh, I want to know if

Uh, will he soon actually was able to draw the guy with the cherry and all that because that is really detailed for such a small space

Yeah, that that is yeah, and I mean the artwork throughout the story is kind of

I'm trying to think how to describe it. It's not super detailed most of the time

um

It's a little it almost looks like sometimes when you see

Like somebody that has really good pencils even without it being ink. It kind of reminds me like that at some points

Yeah, I think that's a pretty good description here, but

Yeah, overall like I said it was a it was a fine story very twilight zone

Maybe not like more

Not creepy, but like

It will happen again sort of thing

Mm-hmm. I could see why this guy that wrote this wrote a lot of those other

For a lot of those other magazines humor magazines and stuff like that. He was probably very good at those

Mm-hmm

All right, well, why don't we jump into the way home uh, this one is by T Casey Brennan

As the scripter and pencils and inks and letters by Mike Royer and uh, Mike Royer for me

I love his work

Uh, I think you know for a long long time. I would have said

Joe Senate was the best anchor Kirby ever had, but I'll tell you what the more I see

Inking Kirby the more I think he's right there with Joe Senate. I really love Mike Royer. What do you think of him?

I'm really in the same boat if like you had to make me pit I get those two anchors against each other on jack's work

It's really hard because uh

Voiders, you know, he was part of I think you know jack with the new god

I think he was with jack on the demon and commandy too and

Just such a good anger associate for jack in the 70s and

On his own his art kind of

What he reminded me of is if you took jack and genre me the seniors art and kind of like split the difference

Mm-hmm

Yeah, you think I'm right

Hermite's totally off base with that. Yeah, it is it's really good artwork. It does remind you of

Like you said a little bit of remita

Like you can see that in some of the faces

But like I do feel like he's

His art kind of like you always look to compare it to like somebody else

Uh a contemporary usually, but I feel like his art kind of stands alone here where it's it's pretty unique

But it does you know you could pick out things from everybody's artwork

Especially everybody that came post Kirby and find stuff that he did in their artwork

Just because he was such a force, but I really like Royer's artwork by himself here

And again, inking Kirby is just off the chain, but his his artwork just alone here is really really strong

It makes me want to see like more of his art and hopefully in some of the future collections of creepy

He's done more. I could easily fact check that. I just haven't yet

Mm-hmm. Yeah, so and this is an interesting one. So Uncle creepy says searching for some shivers friendly fiendies

Then maybe you'd better join the gentleman below. He's looking for something too. Oh sure

He looks relaxed now, but in a moment he'll discover the horrors that lurk on the way home

And we just see this you don't random guy here who seems to have has to have like an idyllic life

He's in got a nice house a cute wife a little kid

You know work and it's like okay cool. Yes, this guy's got a really good life and then all of a sudden on the last panel

Somebody's kind of like reaching out for him and grabbing him is this guy saying just what do you think you are doing and

It says for a moment

I'm frightened concerned for my home and family then I realize what's actually happening and I have this laugh hysterically

And he just starts laughing and then we see he's you know in like a store here

And the two people the kid and the wife that we thought we saw in his home are just like mannequins right

Yeah, so it's like okay, so he was just

As you'll see he was kind of borderline hallucinate and like he's in the middle of an ac pennies and it's like

Okay, if I'm the store owner

It's like I gotta be delicate about this, but I also need to get this guy out of my store

Yeah, I'm thinking as he start cropping the mannequin here like get out here creep

He does walk by an arcade though, so I do like that. That's all cool

I spent many a quarter in arcades when I was a kid I loved arcades, but

And he goes into a bar right

The linger longer, which is just such a good bar name

Yeah, it's fantastic and he's sitting there with a mug of beer and there's a guy with two ladies and he says

I order a drink and look around at the other people they're all smiling and it gets to me and then he looks over and one of the women

That has a beer is a skeleton and so is the one across from her and he says I hate those smiles those mocking smiles

I watch them and watch them so they grow into something weird and horrible

And we switched to him thinking about when he was a kid and then what did you think of this page here?

The art layout and everything and then just the the story overall with this one

I think it's really kind of good to just kind of go like okay, this one

No, this was kind of the reality or at least the reality is he remembers it because

I remember the first time I ran away from the orphanage. I made to the park and there was this family there

They were all laughing. It seemed so happy. So I started laughing too

That was dumb really

But it was then I realized that the laughter of strangers wasn't for me

They've got the wrong thing going and if you try to get into it

It's butt out and you know, you see the kid of the family going

You know, what do you want kid and we cut back to

man guy and

Really really looking drunken to shuffled here is you know, we got all the circles but

bubbling around his head and be

Uh the beard's level just really starting to go out of control here

And suddenly he is surrounded by a group of people and

He does think I don't want to pay attention to what they're saying a little phrase is seen to jump out at me

And it seems like the one guy that are like almost looking like ghostly figure says so I told the wife and kids

You know of vacation with the wife and kids

Well guys, I have to go home soon and we can obviously see this guy's like you know mentally disturbed here

And all this taco you know going home in a family and this and that he like kind of drives him over the edge

And he you know jumps out at this one guy like grabs him doesn't he

Yeah, it's like this guy it's like

He's very

Sad he's very sad protagonist in a lot of these ways because you know he clearly needs you know help

In a lot of ways and you know eventually throws nothing you know makes out to the

Stream you know he just goes like you know ever since I left the orphanage I've been going from flop house to flop house and

He's still you know he's got nothing going for him

And

Then we see the solution of and now now there's this driving need inside me

There's this voice in the back of my mind telling me I've got to go home

Even though I know in my heart. I don't have one and

We again we get another grimly reaper without signs saying home for him

Yeah, it's I mean honestly we think about it how we thought about you know mental illness obviously in 1970 and 71 compared to now

This isn't even a creepy story. This is just a really sad story isn't it?

Yeah, that's exactly what this is it's like

Oh, you changed this story just a little like not even that much and you could be in a very different magazine for again mental health today and all of that

Yeah shows him he goes I used to have this dream as a child when it started

I was always running through the fields with a collie dog

Then this beautiful gray-haired old lady appeared collied to me dinner's ready honey with hot apple pie and

It says so I'd run to her but when I'd get there

I'd see another little boy at a table and I'd realize none of this was for me

And then while I was really shocked at where where they went with this story

This is disturbed. This is the most disturbing part is

So he's just like so I pulled out a gun and shock her and it's like right dead in the forehead and it's like

Oh

This is maybe too well

You know what I mean

It's really wild and then the next panel is even creepier

Then this flower would grow out of her head and I'd see she wasn't so bad after all

It's really disturbing

But how Royer did the artwork there with a close-up on the kid's face and the image reflecting in his glasses of that flower and then

It just shows him walking down the street

This is all happening in his head and he goes that's just it. It isn't such a bad world if you're part of it

And he goes and sits on a park bench and then he's approached by this beautiful woman

And again at this point I'm thinking to myself

Is this a dream? Is this real? I just they had me so like I had no idea where they were going with this story

Yeah, and it's like

Because it's uh, you know

He kind of

Get the idea that's gotta be a fancy because this beautiful woman goes, you know

Why don't you come home with me and he starts following her but it's like okay? That's never gonna happen buddy

Ha ha ha yeah that Royer draws a very striking

Raven-haired woman here and he says so I follow I follow because there is nothing left for me to do even though I don't understand

And he says but who are you when she says why do you question me you wanted to go home didn't you and he goes

Yes, but and she says then follow me and I will take you there and he keeps following and she kind of like has a brisk pace and gets ahead of him

And he's like hey, please wait up. I can't keep up with you and she goes around a corner and he says

Wait in the name of God and he tries to run across the street and what happens

He gets run over by a truck is what happens

So we see the wham and goes I didn't even see the truck in time

But I now know I'm dying as he's getting up from the from the street

And you know our story ends with you know the truck driver's got to now looking at the body as we see him going

With the woman hand in hand

To go as she says yes, it is time to go home as she points in towards us the forest-glate cemetery

Yeah

Well, like I said if that previous room was a twilight zone story. This was like a uh, what was the other one?

There's outer limits. Yeah, this is outer limits

For sure

This one was really really bizarre the huckle creepy says you don't think that's much of a home

Don't knock it some of my beast friends live there if you're interested

I can put in a good word for you if not better scurry on to my next story

But yeah, that one was really like wow. I was uh like you said we were talked about earlier deal with it

Just the way this story was you know looked at through that lens then and now very very contrasting there right

Yeah, that

That's the thing it's one of those

You could kind of take this one out and put you know like like we say take it to a

Psychology class and have it be discussed in all of that and

It's brought it would be a worth topic worthy of worthy of discussion

Yeah, absolutely and then I do like on the opposing page here we get you know those old eight millimeter movies

You see be able to get those old projectors and usually buy these and they'll horror films. That's a really really cool ad there, isn't it?

A hundred percent and I'm like oh, okay. I've seen a couple of these you know sung a con thing from another world

Then there's a couple where I'm like I've never heard of the mysterious doctor Satan here

Or Batman of Africa

I've heard of but yeah, not that one but yeah, very interesting

I love old ads and I'm glad they include some of them in these magazines

These reprints as well really really good stuff. So okay, well

Why don't we jump into sleep walker here? And this is a seven-pager by Jerry Conway or Gerald Conway is

He's listed in we have Mike Royer again, and I do think this is interesting because you know

We just have two Mike Royer's here back-to-back, but I feel like he does a very good job with this one and you know

It's kind of a you know

He does a little bit different style in this one because it the story calls for it right it really does like this one's much more like

on the ethereal

Maybe it's a good word for it

Because we're seeing you know story opens with this blonde haired woman in her

Night night gown just kind of walk it walking out of the street and she's nearly run over by a train

Yeah kind of weird there

And Royer draws a super sexy lady here. She looks really sexy

Yeah, and then what about the intro their bio go creepy another good one as he has his night cap on there

Every ever have those nasty dreams where you wake up in an icy sweat to find yourself

Suspended between light and dark reality and sleep. No, then let me arrange

For you to share those experiences of a lovely last who's a sleep walker

And

And I just noticed yeah, so it it's clearly signed gerry com way, but

On the bottom of the page as it gets the price it says gerald com way. It's like

Why didn't you guys just say put gerry?

Yeah, and then all of a sudden you know

We see this woman was sleep walking in her husband comes running out. Diane come lord. Diane and the neighbors too

What's happened? What's wrong with her? And then another woman says she just fell just dropped away and then

So

You know 1950s looking woman here. Let's just say uh

curlers in her hair saying

And look at the way she's dressed disgraceful because this woman has like an old mooboo on her

Yeah, she's got an old mooboo in this you know very attractive woman is wearing you know very attractive, you know

A nightgum in her 20 so you know, let's okay

Y'all betty

And the guy hey mister should we call an ambulance and the guy and the woman says no, no just the guy

No, no, just get out of my way all of you out of my way and

Takes her back to the house and the neighbors well awful rude wasn't he?

We were only trying to help some people and he gets her back to the house and she says Charles

Did it happen and he goes drink this try not to think about it honey?

When she says it's all I can't think of has it started again the dreams the walking the killing

And he says Diane, please that's part of your life is over now

Coffee mug with the steam coming out right in front of her face again gorgeous panel there by Roya, isn't it?

It sure is and she just goes

You can't hide it you're convinced I'm churning that way again

Back to my craving for blood human blood

Back to being a vampire and all you think of was that story we covered in you

The first or the seventh issue out and remember I'm like are we doing that again?

Both that jury come late to us. What's going on here?

Well, it's a great panel the guy says I didn't say that and his face is mostly in shadow and then

There she's letting there again. She just know, but that's what you were thinking wasn't it Charles wasn't it?

And he goes how can I answer that she says don't don't say anything don't bother and the two of them go back to bed and

They're sleeping there and she's thinking oh god not again. Please not again and two years

It seems like such a short time ago

But we do flash back to the pass and again holy micro micro here dear Lord he draws her

In this super sexy dress here. That's like a very very very revealing doesn't he?

It's only a minute or two. It's like okay. What if you literally drawing her in a fishnet dress or is that just

What's going on here, buddy?

She's laying there and he's he says what is it what happened? She goes dream all the dream couldn't be couldn't be

Real and she's got blood dripping from her lips and

But it was it was so terribly real and the husband looks around the corner and there's a dead body there with a blood pouring out right

Yeah, and it's like and she just goes he was dead his neck was gashed horribly a friend of Charles

Help us get rid of the body and another friend took us to a doctor

And you know Charles you know goes not really a vampire in the strict sense of the word something

A psychological something has made you dependent upon human blood

Some twisted memory perhaps some divi some deviate instinct we must probe for that instinct and that

Uh that memory and it's like oh, okay, so

So

How even if you got rid of the body there's a lot going on here

For this poor woman. Yeah, whoever that friend was the health out that is a friend right there

Yeah

She

Oh, man, and as a friend to do that for you. Oh, yeah, and then there's a really good panel here by Roy at the top of the next page

It's a close-up of the doctor's eyes and he's actually looking a bit sinister here

So I feel like Roy or maybe you may be giving something away here and it says and when we find it

We must erase it from your id in this way you will be freed of the vampiric curse and it says I was to spend

14 months with Dr. Harrison 14 months during which I would

Turn my soul inside and out and it shows them having like therapy sessions

And then Roy or what do you think of this panel at the bottom here with Roy or this kind of ethereal

Pamela? Oh

What uh, you know shades of dico here. Honestly, it really did remind me of like

Some doctor strange or maybe

Yeah, really doctor strings as we're just kind of seeing her basically nude body

Like kind of laughing as like it's her opening a door and seeing something something she can't like almost

bring herself to remember

Which is just really good and like this is more

Creepy than last story so like you were saying this is a good even though it's Roy or on both

He's definitely doing different things here

Yeah, and then she's thinking to herself those dreams. I see something horrible something terrible

But I can't recall what when I wake

It's like that section of memory blocked off and when it shows her awake

It shows her wearing just like a dress or whatever

But every time she's dreaming she's like naked or

I don't know like there's this cross hatching that almost looks like a dress

But I'm thinking she's supposed to be naked and that's just their way of not getting

Warren in trouble here. Yeah, that I'm wondering

Like you said if that's if a writer did just draw her naked and and you know

Good would just say guys. We can get away with a lot. We can't get away with this yet

Yeah, I mean I it's not like it's in poor taste or anything like that

No, no, no, Royer's being exploitive or anything like that at all

It's it fits with the narrative of the story here perfectly and

That she wakes up and says and while my dream image drifts my body moves

They say sleepwalking is the affliction of the nervous if it's so then it's true for I am nervous

I've been filled with fear and great panel to finish that page off there where it should close up on her face and

Now quick quickly quickly quickly look out stop him good and in a memory a lost memory a blocked memory and

You know you turn the page here and

Says in my dream. I am floating while I walk a sleepwalk along silent halls and she's you know walking again here

And she uh says

She walks up to a door and here two voices in there one says you're sure Charles and the other one says of course you fool

She's my wife isn't she don't worry. She doesn't suspect a thing

Very well now about our friend here and wow what about this you know ending here

But then also that that second panel on that last page here

That is so good it just elicits like every like

Wacked out sort of feeling like uh the

The haze of like her mind is going through as she as it

As she opens the door revealing that her husband and the

Her doctor are

Have been killing and even people because they are ghouls

liberal ghouls

And trying to make her take the blamferter thinking she's doing it as well

But yeah, that second panel there like I see that and I like I hear you know

You mentioned the word haze. I'm hearing like Hendrix in there. So that matches the perfect

Or cream or somebody that's like super psychedelic panel

But yeah, these two guys like he said they just look like normal guys in that middle panel

But they have blood coming from their mouth and then when you know the camera kind of zooms in on them a little bit

We can see their eyes are dark and then uh

Yeah, there's there's two ghouls and they were you know eating these uh

cadavers here it's disgusting

It really is and it's like you know, they just got

um

You know step nearer to her and goes we can't let you go we can't take the chance you'll remember honey

Honey, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, but that's the way things have to be

Enough talk you know what has to be done

Do it and again, we just get this

Terrifying image refer again zip it owned out

As I'm guessing they're killing her because

They can only have her take the blames for so long. I like they finally broke her mentally

Mm-hmm. Yeah, and she's like floating through like this other didco scape here

It's just this wild man. That was a wild story, but it was really good. I thought I'm quite a bit

But this is what I think this is the one that I'm like oh what we definitely have to talk about uh this issue

It was the whole just for this story

And it's funny too because the next story is the one that's like kind of the

Gets the biggest hype on the cover and I think this previous story and maybe one or two others are way better

This next one, which again this next was not bad per se, but I just think this other one's below this one out of the water

Okay, good. We're okay, then we had we were on the same wavelength because this was not my favorite of the stories

I

Yeah, this one is a called secret of the haunted room

It's a nine-pager by Bill Warren and then Ernie Cologne

Pencils inks and letters and you know, it's it's basically one of these deals where you know, there's a reading of a will and you know a rich person died a

you know a

Snotty, you know

stuck up kind of

Opportunist of a like a nephew inherits the house, but then he gets told

But if you want to keep the house and get all the money you have to stay at this house as well

And he's just like oh well, that's not you know the greatest, but hey whatever fine and I will say you know Ernie Cologne

I've seen his work before and I'm assuming this is pretty early in his career

So you know you can make I can definitely make an excuse for it not being you know to my liking very much

It's very roughly artwork. I feel like he could have used an anchor here

That maybe could have you know helped out a little bit

absolutely because like

Like on even on the second page

We get a lot of like what feels just kind of rough sketches for eyebrows and whatnot and then you know

See the lawyer who looks a lot like

Tell me some of all this maybe I was trying to place it, but not quite

Yeah, and we finally get this really good

We do get good image of Uncle Creepy here in the middle of the story going

Greetings Gore group

Houses can be haunted in all sorts of ways by all sorts of spooks

Sandy Cohen here is about to discover a very unusual one indeed in the haunted room and

I'm pretty sure that's just a full-on photo Ernie Cologne's using here

Yeah, to me that looks like something they just put right over the top of his artwork

Here like they pulled from somewhere else

I don't know if they were expecting him to draw that and do it on that first page

And he didn't and they were just like hey slap Uncle Creepy in there and we'll you know

Archie was like we'll do a little intro on the second page because usually they almost always exclusively do it on that very first page

Yep, and

So you know, you know as we cut you know again more folk like just straight up photos of

Comies living it up. He's living in he's like okay. He goes. I'll use this for my room. I mean here's you know something

Going on and goes huh. What's that? Nothing, but I'm sure I heard something

And as he finds like a random paper clipping here of like silver rumored hidden and co-in-home and it's like

How is this just getting to the newspaper?

Yeah, I feel like this guy's gonna he's gonna be in some deep stuff when everybody else rejects

I'm sure some criminals over. He'd be like oh, there's money up there. Yeah, there's silver up there

Let's go take care of it, but I was not prepared for this next page here by Ernie Cologne

We said about how Mike Royer was doing some risque things maybe and the previous couple of stories

Well Ernie Cologne left nothing to the imagination on this next page did he?

No, because I'm not to be crashed. We see full-on nipples in this page

Yeah, Lee

And that's like kind of like a spectral image, but still she's fucking naked

Exactly and again, you know, she says a long gated

Uh, like ethereal white

You know pale white, you know blonde and all of that and goes

You know goes hey, where are you doing in my house? Your house. This belongs to my father and you know

We had some creepy close-ups of her eyes and goes

And uh, Sandy just goes look here sister. I don't know what your game is, but I want an explanation and I want it fast

She just runs away from them, right?

Yeah, just right past them

And man that the face on uh, the you know, was it fourth page here? I've had running after girls

That's really just two dots for the eyes and that's it

Yeah, and then they we get another photo

Right in the middle of just a woman's eyes. It's very very bizarre. I mean again

I'm not opposed to somebody trying something experimental and if it doesn't work

I'll still give them credit for trying something

Uh, different, but that doesn't mean you can still look at it and say hey, they tried

But this really didn't work. It's really the bizarre way to tell a story here

It really is because it kind of took me a few times to get what was going on

um, especially you know as we

cut uh, to the next page and

uh

Corklorn has like literally just drawn his characters over another photo and it's like

Are they trying to make us feel unsettled in this house because or what's going I'm trying to get what they're going for with that

Yeah, it almost reminds me of those

What the heck were those things called that you could pick up and slap down that were like

Oh um, like kind of sticker books sort of thing

Yeah, that's what it reminds me of and I can again I've seen plenty of Ernie Cologne

I like his work typically, but I just feel like

What he was going for here did not land at all like not for me. It's very it looks like something like a kid would do

It really kind of does it it feels like a lot of the art here is when you're doodling in

You know high school while you're kind of let half-listening to the teachers what a lot of this artwork really reminds me of

Yeah, little kind of amateurish, you know, but again not to slam Ernie Cologne. I like because he's yeah

He's done other stuff. I love plenty don't get me wrong, but here and not so much

Now very very crude uh for you know a magazine of this stature

Let's say especially by issue 38, you know what I mean if it was uh

Oh, this is issue two and we're just getting started and we had to use you know

No new young artists that were just getting started and not maybe very polished

You could understand that but this is issue 38. So it's like yeah, they've been going for a six seven years at this point

so

Very very odd choice here

I want kind of wonder how archie and everybody felt about this story and I I would love to have been able to be a

A fly on the wall when they got this story and check it out

I

Man, I'm gonna go through some of the letter pages and

Some of the issues after this to see if you know what kind of feedback they got if any on this because I'm curious myself

Yeah, and then we do on the next to last page of this story get you know

We see this woman. She's like a spirit that lived in this house supposedly many many years earlier

Hundred years earlier whatever and then we do get the the cover image on that next to last page as well

And then I will say this I I do love on that page where Cologne

It's kind of like a wilderness shot and I love how he put the image like a the woman's face kind of in the trees there

I do like that that looked to me looks really good

Yeah, that was like kind of the one saving grace art wise for this story

Because even that even as I'm looking at I'm like, okay, did they have the art or the cover?

I'm guessing they had the cover art first and they just kind of repurposed it just like a try and boost the story up

Or something. I don't know what's going on this

Yeah, I think they had that cover image first and they shrunk it down to put it in here because it looks like the exact image

Yeah

And you know, she's just talking of like I love Steve and he was my fiance, but he didn't know my secret

I didn't have time to change back to tell him

My companions had avoided the swinging of his axe, but I was struck terribly if hurt

Terribly and you know, it's like

You know, she was like kill almost kill by her fiance and then

I'll be honest. I don't know if I understand what was going on because it's basically

Something something I'm a vampire

Yeah, and then just lulled this sandy guy into a state of kind of

You know

Not even really knowing what's going on and just kind of like let's so engrossing her story

She's able to you know flip the fangs out and bite him and that last page is just like us at me

man if you take

The image of the biting away, which is very bizarre how they have it cut out

It almost looks like they had already cloned drawn image of the female vampire biting this guy

And then had somebody take a pair of scissors and just cut out around it in these very odd shapes

And then the completely naked vampire ass woman

That looks not great. I'm just going to say but if you take those two images away from there

That's a really good forest teacher there

Yeah, like the rent like yeah if you took everything in the foreground out the background looks great

Yeah, the uncle creepies there and he's poor sandy laid his last bit on a load of silver and lost

I think good old uncle Steven knew about Miss Torgas at which by the way

That was the vampire's name, which is bizarre name. Why can't you say name or missus Stevens or something at Torgas

Very bizarre. It was getting his revenge on sandy the

Mastral what was what a waste and I'm like oh boy. Yeah, like literally nothing about this story

That I think was any good

No, this one was really hard now again

To the benefit of it being an anthology. We don't spend that much time

And if we have you know six stories are four out of five and we have one that's one or two out of five

You know the average on the whole so all this way makes an anthology book great

Yep, and that is the beauty of an anthology book if there's six stories and one's a stinker and one's just kind of and that means

You had four other strong stories

So that's that and that's kind of what we're gonna get here

But yeah, that one is definitely the lowest for me by far and I mean

I didn't love sticks and stones to break their bones either that one was just okay, but yeah

Sorry that one to this one that one was light years

Oh

At least sticks and stone made coherent sense within its own pages

And the artwork was a little bit better as well. So that to me

Puts it right up there. It's like yep. That one was definitely a whole grade better

Easily for me, but yeah, then we get the creepy fan club here

You know, we get the an illustration and then a really cool illustration

You know like outer space seen here and then you know a text piece here and then a preview for some of the other books

Or I'm sorry preview artwork for people that were sending their artwork

To you know say to Warren. Hey, you know, here's a sample of my artwork. Maybe I can you know do a story

In creepier eerie and it's there's some decent stuff in here like the very first image is pretty cool

And I will say it says below is the artwork from

Splash page of an upcoming story written and illustrated by Gary Kaufman and it says of Harrisburg P.A

Which you know it's only about an hour away from where I live. So I was like hey all right Gary

Always looking for somebody anywhere near me

No, no, I'm the exact same way

Just because it's like oh

The nowadays I'm looking at it's like oh, yeah, we're just gonna put it your full name and address in these books

Sometimes

You cannot pay me to do that now oh hell no and then but I will say you know on the very bottom here the the piece that was

Pretty accomplished looking pretty good looking. It's bizarre, but it looks pretty good a very talented

Steven Leiloha of Pacifica California sent in several body grabbing drawings designed to capture the viewer and as we both know

Steve but we pretty accomplished artist there. He's a you know what did some doctor strange a spider woman pretty good artist in his own right?

Oh

100% and it's like yeah, no, maybe starting out and you know doing a warrant and with some warrant books

That's a good way to get your foot in the door shows that you can you know in theory do a you know comprehensive story and maybe get your workout on time

So definitely in place to you know stretch your legs and all of that

without doubt and

The weird is I can honestly see his style just in that one little image

Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's like I said it's bizarre, but it's a cool image like it's like a guy

But it's only like from the waist up and easy, you know

Grabbing like a little guy like he's a giant. I don't know what's going on underneath them there

I can't figure that out, but it's it's very good very detailed

Yeah, I was not sure either but I was just kind of glad. Oh, hey, I know that guy

Yeah, yeah, always good to see those names early on in there

But the okay, well, you know if you're gonna you know end your book on a hyno with a bang

Why not get Wally Wood scripting pencils and inks right? Oh my gosh Wally Wood art. Oh, I love it

Yeah, Wally he was a you know a tragic guy, but man as an artist he was just off the chain

I mean this artwork stands out easily above everybody else's artwork in this book and there was some really good artwork in this book

His just really blows everybody else's out of the water doesn't it

100% I mean just the opening splash you see all of the machinery of the spaceship

That this crew is on you have a guy who looks a lot like will riker

Yeah, he does

And we'll

Again Wally Wood knows how to draw women. I'm just gonna say that

Yeah, he yeah, that was that was his specialty

I think it was his like favorite thing to do and speaking of Star Trek the next generation

The lady here, you know from the neck down. She kind of reminds me of rikers girlfriend a bit there. She's put together

Very beautiful woman here, and yeah, this is great

It's you know he did a lot of these crazy sci-fi stories like this for EC

When he was you know a little bit you know much younger 20 years previous you know 15 to 20 years previous to this

Yeah, this one's a lettered by Ben Odin. It's called called the cosmic all and

Uncle creepy says now for a really far out tale like four light years out

As some spaced out spaceman on a wild trip discover some mind-bending facts about the universe life and the cosmic all and like you say great splash page here

We kind of get like almost like an an alien movie deal here at first where you know the travelers are you know

Woken up out of like hyper space hyper sleep and they're gonna go down to investigate something on a planet, right?

That's exactly

That is a really good comparison and again

Helium wasn't wouldn't be for a couple more years. So again creepy kind of being them to the punch a bit

Mm-hmm. Yeah, well, I mean that's flash pages great, but even this next page here. What how fantastic is this art here?

Oh my god now if there is one thing they even slightly data is the spaceship or the space suit designs

A little black Rogers even not too bad because

We get some good shots here is like as they're just exploring. It's like strange. There's a lot of plant life

But they're must but there must so there must be animal life as well

But so far we've seen no sign of it and go and then look skeletons and

This one

Looks almost humanoid. We may run into an intelligent life and again. They're just seeing nothing but bones

It's like a disturbing amount of balance. Yeah, I mean she just looks almost humanoid. It does look humanoid

The skull maybe is off a little bit there obviously, but the rest of it does look like a human being

And he says nothing but bones this whole world is a graveyard and another guy sir come here quick

A spaceship and more bones. Well, that's enough for today. We'll camp here by this lake

Don you stand the first watch and I think there's like let's see well one two three four of them

Three guys and the lady here and of course they they were asleep

But then wake up to an ee and the woman screaming because she's being

You know cost it here by I don't know how would you describe this this being?

Well

Not to go back to the searcher next gen. It's the kind of a bigger version of what killed Tasha Yarr

Is maybe a good way to put it. It's a sentient

Lake of goo maybe is a good way with tentacles coming out

Yeah, I kind of want to say like you know sort of like the movie the blob

But this thing can actually like you know reach out with like tendrils and stuff like that

So it's a little more unique than the blob

Yeah

uh

And so again they're they're blasting it and as they rock it away

They realize like it just wasn't like a small thing. It's like that thing was a a great lake size blob

Mm-hmm and it killed everyone except for the main guy and the beautiful woman

And all the other people that were there I guess are dead it ate them

Yep, uh, it's bones just bones and look the slime it's coming this way everybody aboard and

You know they're

They're jumping to the next world where they're immediately attacked by

Whatever's on the planet

A little laser beams. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah

Well, they let us second planet and the blob was there too. So again, you're thinking wow this thing

Really gets around he obviously there must be more than one of it

And then they land on another planet where they're getting some signals when there's intelligent life there

And they're these little alien guys, but they attack them and I'm like why are they attacking these little guys?

Oh, I thought it was because like the blob like had basically

assimilated them and like they were fine because it wasn't on their planet until the speed until they destroyed their

Until the humans destroyed their protective bubble

Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's right. Well, so it's like well. We're dead anyway, but we're gonna try and you know get our revenge on you

pesky invading aliens

Yeah, because the guy says hey, why did you fire on us? We come in peace and the aliens reply you are a threat to us

You came from the planet of the slime

So i'm thinking myself so what if they came from that planet they aren't the slime

So why would you you know try to attack them, but they they do so they just blast away and then

All the sudden a voice comes over the thing and says thank you for killing us

It is a clean death compared to what is going to happen to you

I recorded this message so that you will know what to expect

We have had space travel for a long time. We know what happened on other planets our screen kept us safe when you destroyed it

You killed us. So now I guess that screen that they had was going to protect them from this slime

so

Now that the humans destroyed it they were like well, then just kill us because now we're gonna die anyway from the slime

so it's like

okay, but

Now the the woman the the the guy zaps the machine saying this and it says uh

He says any questions and then the woman says then we stay and the captain says yes tomorrow

We'll take a look around and

All of a sudden there's a i got to love wally would i feel like he throws these things in there

It's like you're doing a sci-fi story

He has to throw something sexy in here the woman

She's saying to the captain see you in the morning captain and he goes yeah if we're still alive and she says huh pleasant dreams

As she slowly closing the door and he says yeah goodnight now

like

The man can't help himself

but

He really can because it's good more oh god as she just as the room comes back and sees the guy's skeleton just right in bed

Mm-hmm yeah, he's a horn dog wally he couldn't help himself and she looks around the room and everybody's a skeleton except then one guy comes in

She goes oh don and he goes yeah, it looks like we're the only ones left she goes look out don it's the slime again

He goes run for it head for the ship and he's got his laser blaster and he's blasting away and

They're running and he goes maybe we cannot run it come on Sue. Of course. We have the moment of uh, you know

Oh, she the the woman falls. Oh don has to pick her up

That part being like oh come on wally would really

Yeah, this was like I felt like oh come on man, but the

If he don picks her up and says oh, we just made it. Let's blast off and they they blast off in the ship and

Yeah, she says oh we're nearly home Don we made it and he goes there's just one thing I don't understand she says

Yes, I know why didn't it happen to us. Why are we spared and later?

Sue, what are you doing? We're off course and she says yes, I know

I don't know why something came over me a voice no, I thought and he goes you're insane get out of my way

Maybe I can still correct and she starts fighting with him

No, you mustn't we must not be

Examine they will find out and kill us and of course at this point

I kind of knew where things were going, but why don't you wrap us up here with what the twist was to this one?

well uh

And so as they're sinking in their ship into the ocean uh don goes what what's happening to me?

I feel you too oh darling. I'm so glad now you know why and as both of their faces

Slowly start melting very graphically

That goes yes. Oh, sorry. Where are we supposed to say yeah god that was that's disgusting

It's like for all the things for saying of Wally being uh

You know the horn dog he draws the horror of their flesh melting really good and

You know the one goes yes

It wanted us to return to earth to bring peace and love to another system

For it is intelligent in fact omniscient it has been in us all that time

Waiting and now it is time. Yes. There will be a new life a better one for this whole plant of

unhappy

sick

murderous vertebrates and as we see both of their the flesh like melting off and with their skeleton said

With their skeletons sitting

You know we get the narration going then there was no longer a need for words

Even if they had been able to utter them for their flesh slip silently from their skeletons and float

Effortlessly toward each other

Trambling with the rapture of their new state of boneless freedom and merged and then it was complete and in touch

With the cosmic all

Separate yet one with its millions of components on millions of worlds it paused a moment

Realizing and integrating its power and then and mortal and all knowing it slithered happily to the lock

And was gone and was gone to do good to bring harmony to bring others into the harmony and it's like

Okay, yeah, no, this is terrifying. This is cosmic horror to the nth degree

Yeah, this is walley. Well, this is fantastic. This might be one of the best things. I think he's ever you know

You've written and pencils and inks like everything wholesale here other than you know the letters

This is fantastic and then we get local creepy that says well that you didn't expect a happy ending

What you don't think that's a happy ending just wait wait until you join in the bus of total togetherness for the cosmic all is coming

Yeah, this was really good. It was like I said to me. This was my favorite and there were some other really good stories in this one

But this one to me easily takes the top spot

I'd have to agree because I'm like you know, vengeance of the hang and one cross both really good both the the

Royal stories excellent, but man, it's hard to beat this and that's that is how you end a block

Just with like the images on the last page of the woman's face melting off specifically

It's just like oh that's sticking with me. I don't want it to but it's not leaving my brain

Yeah, that is really gross. Oh man, but yeah, and that because like the way wood draws it too

It's almost like if you would like

Take a real person and like just take a flamethrower to them like it just goo

Eyes nose and then one of the ears is like halfway down man. It is disturbing

I don't know how your brain comes up with that or if you just saw that in the movie once I'm like, okay

Let's have that but make it look better

Yeah, I mean, I don't think Wally Wood was too too much into the hallucinogenics

But I know we like to drink so maybe he was in a

Had a few beers in him

Would not surprise me because wow just like you said this is kind of everything you want in a Wally Wood story

Yeah, I actually bought a book not too long ago

It's put out by a company called Vanguard and it says Wally Wood

Erie crime and horror and it's just all crime and horror stuff he did and I haven't dived into it yet

But it looks really really good. I can't wait to it man reading this story makes me just want to run over to the bookshelf right now and grab it

I let me know because if I can get my hands on that I'd be well. I'd want to read it

Yeah, Wally Wood was yeah, he was just a master like I said you can you go back to his days at EC there when he was really young in the business and man

He was already showing some really good stuff because EC had some real masters in there and he was able to keep up with them

Again, this story is proof that he's just he's the man. This is really really good

But yeah, man great pick here overall like this is a really strong like four out of five issue for me. It's like really really strong

Yes without that and like I said if we if we have like one bad and one mediocre but the rest were four out fours out of five

That's a good issue

And that's kind of how I'm taking it

Absolutely, yeah, and like I said if anybody out there is interested in creepy and eerie at all

I would really suggest that you start buying these trades because when they go out of print the price goes bananas

Dark horse had put these

Creepies and eeries out maybe about 15 or so years ago maybe even 20 and they were in hardcover and when they went out of print

Some of the volumes are a hundred dollars. So I'm just saying yeah if you if you like these I think you can still get

The first one

So and I know they're up to volume like 11 or 12 as of this recording

That sounds like a lot but usually the earlier volumes are the ones that sell out the fastest

So if you can still get one or two volumes one and two I think three four all those ones you can still find on websites

Probably even Amazon again

I would suggest getting them because they're not going to get cheaper

The lower the print run and or the more they go out of print get closer to it and go out of print the price will go

Bananas on them. So get them there. I think they're well worth it, right?

uh

Well worth it. I mean honestly as soon as we're done here today. I'm just gonna go ahead and order

Uh the third that are out just so I make sure that I don't miss them because uh volumes 11 and 12 I have noticed in the store

Is like they are like double the size of all the other previous ones

Yes, I don't know if it's I don't know why they're doing that and again

I'm fine with it

But they're yeah, they're double instead of like five issues per book. They're 10 issues

So yeah, they'll be much thicker

But I'm fine with that because when you look at the price point as far as like the discount websites like

Instaq trades and cheap graphic novels you can so get these for like what are they 25 bucks? So to me you can get

eyes

Let me just see i'm just gonna bring up uh

Instaq real quick here just to

You're falling 12

22 74 and uh

You can't beat that price for what you're getting here folks you really can

And like I said the ones that you were only getting the five issues you were paying probably about 16 17 18 dollars

So basically for five more dollars you're getting double the content

It

Praise again

I cannot wait to get my hands on more of these because let's see with volume 12 that just came out there up through issue

Okay, interesting volume 12 has issues 60 to 64 the skip 65

You know what that's probably like one of those anniversary issues where they just did all reprints

Oh, that okay, yeah, that's what it says in the cover for 65 a reprint issue of stories that were collected in past eerie archive

So there you go folks, but I mean so even that is double the is double the size of like the first couple volumes

Yep, yeah eerie creepy and eerie once they started getting a little long in the tooth

They started to reprint a lot of stuff

So you'll see them zip through those last few volumes a lot quicker

And they'll do these like double size ones don't even go get through really fast because when you get to like issues 80 90 100 and stuff like that

They did reprint a lot of

Material from earlier issues. So that's that's a they'll don't and they're not going to reprint that stuff

Like I said, that's why you don't get 65 or whatever number you said it was there. That's they're not going to reprint a reprint

So

That's why it'll they'll flip through it real quick

Yeah, that's one of the things I appreciate because there are sometimes where I've gone through like there's old marble black and white

Collections where it's like here's a reprint story and it's like covers all these issues, but once only like three pages

I'm like wait, what's going on? Oh

Uh, you know, you know, I'm just gonna say steving a heart in

Oh my god, the artist

Thelma brother fell behind so they they're just gonna reprint Steve or doctorate his origin again

Yeah, yeah, that that was uh, that's my favorite run of dr. Strange him and frank brooner

But brooner was notoriously

Like not able to keep up with a monthly book. That's why he ended up not

Continuing with dr. Strange. He just couldn't keep up with a monthly book and they got gene colon on that

Which is no slouch either. He's my favorite artist of all time

But yeah, frank brooner love his artwork. Yeah, he could not keep up with a monthly book

Yeah, um, sadly

That's the biggest problem is you got some of these artists where it's like I want you monthly. Why can't you keep up monthly?

But you know

Really good or really fast? It's hard to do both

Yeah, there weren't a lot of artists that could do excellent work month after month

You know look at Kirby he was doing sometimes multiple books a month, but he was in anomaly. He wasn't the standard

No, the man was drawing like four books a month and it's like

You can't give one artist to do one book a month sometimes

No, yeah his uh his abilities and work ethic are long gone. That's not you don't see that anymore

But uh wow, yeah, great issue like I said man. Thanks for picking this one and uh, we'll uh get our heads together about the next one

We'll do as well, but yeah, I can't wait to talk more creepy and at some point we'll have to dive into some Erie as well

Yeah, yes, well like I just need to start buying some Erie and I'll

We will I'll let you know as soon as I do

Absolutely, so yeah, everybody look forward to that, but that's gonna wrap us up for now

But you know as always thanks for joining me my friend

But if anybody wants to find you out there like on the socials and over on Ross's network, where can they look?

Okay, so you can find me online on blue sky as a fearless freak

And you can find me like on Instagram and Twitter still as here's Kirby

So I just want to say Ross has been very generously as a lot upgraded me to full-on co-host of stoplets team up

So there you can find our recurring shows of Opal City Confidential where we are where Ross is going through

The James Robinson star man series and you know the entire star man legacy

You know Ross. I'm both doing four for four our fantastic four read through and

They'll be out by the time you hear this, but we'll be covering a big

Dr. Doom versus taking the silver surface powers

Is the next we have recorded and you know our last recurring one is my solo series a zoo crew review where I

I go through

Roy Thomas's captain Karen is amazing zoo crew and pair every issue with a classic lini tune short

Which is a lot of fun. That's something you don't hear really anywhere else. That's a very unique show there

You're doing a great job with that man. Yeah, thank you very much. I'll be honest. There's part of me where it's like

I really want to talk lini tunes. Is there a good way I can find a way to link it together and I did

Yeah, lini tunes are great

Fantastic stuff there, but all right. Well, that's going to do it first now

And I'll have all of this stuff in the show notes. So anybody out there wants to go in there and you know click or copy and paste if I'm being lazy

You can go there and find all this information, but that's going to wrap us up

But like I said earlier and once again, thanks Kirby. I appreciate you being on

No, thank you Billy for letting me talk here because I love me some horror comics. I really do love a horror anthology

Absolutely. I'm right there with you buddy. So all right. That's going to get us out of here, but after a quick break

I'll be back in to wrap things up

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Okay, everybody that wraps up another episode of this show. Yeah, hopefully you know get used to it

It'll be first Monday of every month

Gonna be trying to do these Warren magazines creepy a lot of big focus there

And then maybe some eerie in there as well

You never know maybe every once in a while I'll drop something in there too

For the most part gonna be the Warren magazines going forward here in 2026 and hopefully beyond

Really having a good time with these there really great additions that dark horse is putting out here

So I urge you to start grabbing them before they go out of print

I think Kirby and I you know mention that because they do go out of print and the price goes sky high double triple or more

So if you like these definitely check them out and hey look down the digital lane too

You might feel we have to move in way cheaper in digital versions as well

I know sometimes dark horse runs a sale where you can get entire volumes for you know pennies on the dollar

So look for that as well

And if I find any information out about it

I will definitely talk about it on the show and put it in the show note

But as always thanks for listening