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Brian how are you I just immediately got hungry
yes as I do so many times he reading that off but this time
it just put hunger in me I feel like I'll get this sandwich right now
I hear you my man I hear you before we went on air you and I had a chance
very briefly probably last thirty seconds to talk about the Toronto Maple Leafs
who lost big tonight wow Tony Tony they were playing tonight a team
the New York Rangers that also has given up that is side lining players
that has already traded Panara and they lost six to two
is it rebuild time in Toronto should they tear it down
it's six straight losses since the Olympic break
there's an image that circulating on social media tonight
where Craig Marube is yelling at them at the bench and they're all like this
shut this have the guy I saw it I saw it you saw it yeah it doesn't look
but it was so not interested it looks like they're doing them out
they're looks like they're tuning them out I saw a tweet tonight it was pretty
funny somebody said yeah Mariner no problem Michele is going to pick up
sixty points Nicholas was going to pick up forty points
Brad Tree Living's a genius type of thing and I wrote back and how did that
work out it didn't obviously because I think they don't even have
fifty points between the two of them and Nicola Wall was traded earlier
today to the Colorado Avalanche so obviously yeah
parting waves with Mitch Mariner and making a trade for Mariner
and bringing in guys like Michele and Wall it didn't pay off I mean that
backfired and that that turned out to be a disaster
it turned out last time Matthew scored last time Matthew scored has been a
while Neil Anderson has been producing pretty good yeah
but Matthew's been a while I think they should trade
them oh no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no
all right bring bring up is he bring up his DB bring up his DB
page that okay well I shame go on master control if you can bring it
up but I I know what it is I mean Brian the guy averages one point
one point per game in the regular season and has for a deck
bucket of box Tony and averages point
nine points per game in the average is point ninety five
points per game in the playoffs he's a six foot three
centering of two hundred and fifteen pounds he's twenty eight
years old he's in the best years of his you can never win a trade
like this didn't you learn from Mariner you can't
you can't it would be a blockbuster obviously but I think the
guy is I think like when you look at everything recently you
know and Brady could chuck feels the same way in Ottawa
if they found themselves on an American team right now
I don't think they would be that upset about it
but I think the guy is I think like when you look at everything
recently you know and Brady could chuck feels the same way in
the game they would be that upset about it to be honest I
think that they would not frown on a trade to an American
team now obviously when I suggest it might be in the best
interest of the Toronto Maple Leafs and when we do look at those
numbers we do see a player sixty nine thirty three twenty
six so far this is not a sixty nine or a sixty goal score
anymore so like when you're trying to win trades you and I have
discussed this a million times together Tony you're trying to
get in front of a player who may be regressing soon
Elias Pederson like that's what you're trying to get in
front of so I'm not saying he's it you know
lousy and I'm not saying the trades of bag of pucks I'm
saying he's not we're sixty nine goals anymore and if
you're trade living maybe you get in front of that especially
if maybe he wants to play in America all things considered
these days okay so now I know that there's a political
angle here it's been brought up and stuff like that you
a lot he went to the White House it upset some people he
wants to play in the States he's not crazy about Canada
yeah yeah yeah yeah I've never heard him say that he's not
crazy about Canada here's the deal and I also know that
there's some people right now in the YouTube chat that are
saying okay it's not the same obviously Marner was at the
end of his contract and he was going to leave for nothing
so the Leafs said no no you can't leave for nothing we
got to make a deal and they ended up making deal and it's
not the same thing I get all that okay I really I do but
with all this talk and and I heard there was a couple of
members of the media today that were actually saying that
they don't believe that Austin Matthews they believe Austin
Matthews going to get traded they don't believe that Austin
Matthews going to finish out his contract with the Toronto
Maple Leafs but with all this talk other teams see you
coming from a mile away and I just you know what the
exception of what the exception of Ryan O'Reilly who by
the way is nowhere close nowhere close to the offensive
player that Austin Matthews is a very good defensive
player yes a better player on 200 feet I think you can
have that debate a better offensive player nowhere close when
Ryan O'Reilly was traded that was a deal to the St. Louis
Blues that both teams ended up winning the trade the St. Louis
Blues won the Stanley Cup with Ryan O'Reilly in 2019 and
today the Buffalo Sabers have taged Thompson to show for
it but usually when you end up trading number one
centerman like Joe Thornton back in the day or like Jack
Ikel and so many others you don't end up winning the trade
by Ryan I don't know what the solution is in Toronto
obviously they sent in Craig Brube they thought he was
going to be able to change the culture of the team the way
Barry Trots was able to do it in Washington and ended up
winning the Stanley Cup you remember in Washington everyone
was talking about the capitals were a country club well
Vetskin was a loser he didn't know how to win the big one
we heard that talk for 10 years Trots went there and they
won the cup they were hoping that Brube was going to do
the same thing it didn't work out but you can't trade
Austin Matthews right now okay I brought up my points
about it you know in terms of Canada versus American in
terms of the player that seems to be regressing just a
little bit in terms of being 28 years of age but what I
haven't added yet and I want to add to it now it also
factors in the same way that Vancouver feels about
Pederson and feels about where they are in a rebuild and
they did it with Queen Hughes as well where do the Toronto
Maple Leafs feel that they are yeah like did they feel
this is just a one-off bad season and they're still
an amazing team or did they feel that they're not in a
rebuild but in a bit of a reset like so far they seem
you know fairly confident still I'd like to hear Brandon
Carlos name on the training block I think he'd be
fantastic for the Montreal Canadians for example right shot
deep but they are they're you know not selling or sending
a message of selling just yet but when did they get
there Tony when did they get there if there's talk of a
rebuild right now I know if there's talk of a rebuild
right now in Toronto though I think the fan base is going
to absolutely lose it back in 2018 back in 2018 the
front page of the hockey news was the Toronto Maple
Leafs are going to win the Stanley Cup in the next
several year and they're going to in the next years
and they're probably going to win a couple of them
they were supposed to have done their rebuild right they
knows straight away the likes be on for enough and fill
Quesil and they voluntarily thank to train win to get
for a spot in the lottery and get Austin Matthews
after they drafted him and you still have Austin
Matthews and you still have Morgan Riley and you know
what I think Morgan Riley could be a guy you could
look at train he still have Neil Anderson I don't
think that you know what look you said he's on the
code ones in your mouth I think you said
something to the effect of Matthews this program
on the decline, regressing, okay?
I think Matthew's just having a bad season
on a bad team.
What's a bad season?
It went from 59 to 33 last year.
Yeah, last year, once again, let's bring it up.
He had 78 points and 67 games.
So he was averaging 1.1 something points per game this year.
He's had 52 points and 57.
I don't want his goal total, 69 to 33.
69 to 33 years, right?
I hear you, but I mean, the year before he had 69, he had 40,
and he had 85 points.
The year before he had 40, he had 60.
The year before that, he had 41, 47.
I mean, it's really tough to hit 69 goals, right?
I mean, in this national, I understand it.
I mean, this is a guy that in the end, averages.
33 is 33, Tony is like goal all the way.
That's the worst total in his career.
33.
I hear you, I hear you, but I'd be willing to bat
that if they have a good year next year,
he's going to do more than 33 next year.
Is he ever going to get back to 69?
No, I think that's a big number.
I also think it's a great number, by the way,
but we're, you know, let's stick to hockey,
but I think it'll be tough.
You get away with anything in a podcast.
It's a podcast.
You know what?
If I was working for a big company,
I would have been fired by now,
and that's why I'm happy I'm not.
What can I tell you?
Yes.
Yeah.
So anyway, listen, it's a great discussion.
It's a great, I'm not totally opposed to doing
something drastic with the Toronto Maple Leafs.
I just don't think the timing is now,
especially not the question.
Would Gordon use trade Austin Matthews
on a bat season for him?
No.
I was going to ask you instead.
Are you ready?
You're the general manager of the Montreal Canadiens.
Yeah.
Here Austin Matthews is available.
How hard are you working to get him?
You want him?
Do you want to lie as Patterson?
Do you want him?
I would touch Patterson with a 10-foot pole
that was dipped in gold.
I'm not the president of the
Elias Patterson fan club, but I'm going to tell you this.
His talent is undeniable, and any player who's out there
that hasn't worked out, I'd be really confident
that they can find their game under Marty,
seeing the Wii, and playing in Montreal
with this kind of talent surrounding them.
All right.
So he can score goals, and that's the hardest thing
to do in the National Hockey League.
His 200-foot game is in great,
but Coffields wasn't when he broke into the league either,
and look how good Coffields 200-foot game is now.
So yeah, he's a player that would interest me.
He is, but I'm going to tell you this.
I think the absolute best player for the Montreal
Acadaine's first line, and my opinion,
has never changed on this, is Slavkowski.
I think Slavkowski was born to play with Suzuki and Coffield.
You have a 5-foot 11, over 200-pound thick
sentiment, who's a tremendous playmaker
with absolutely incredible vision,
and an incredible processor that works at very high speeds.
You got an incredible goal scorer,
who can score from anywhere,
and you have a guy who's big, who's strong,
who's powerful, who can crash the net,
when he puts his head down,
and he puts his shoulder down,
and he decides that he's going to the net.
He's hard to be stopped.
When he's on his game, he's very difficult to be contained.
He can change the momentum of a hockey game.
I think we're going to see his best moments in the playoffs,
and we will, for the rest of his career.
I think those three are perfect for each other,
and I get it, that Slavkowski was amazing,
for the two months prior to the Olympics,
playing with Kapanen, Aruki, and Demidava Aruki,
and he was carrying the mail,
and because of that, a lot of people wanted him to stay there.
I think he's going to take everything that he did great
with Kapanen and Demidava,
and he's going to bring it back to the first line,
and they need to get him going,
because he hasn't been going since he returned from the Olympics.
And why, Tony?
Why?
He had an amazing Olympics.
I think everybody felt that he was just going to start flying
at the NHL level.
Gave, take all that confidence.
I have a theory.
Yeah, I'm going.
I have a theory.
He was amazing at the Olympics,
until he got hit versus Germany,
and I was at that game.
And he went into the board's head first.
And all my eyes were on him,
and I didn't look at anybody else.
And the doctors and the trainers went over to him right away,
and they started doing like this and stuff like that,
and I imagine it went well,
and I imagine his eyes were following the finger
and stuff, because he returned in that hockey game, OK?
After they did that, and after they did
maybe some concussion testing on him
to see if his eyes would follow,
they went to get a bag of ice.
And I saw him for about five or six minutes
on the bench, or at least it seemed that way.
And he was putting the bag of ice on the back of his neck,
and then he was putting the bag of ice on the back of his head,
and then he was putting the bag of ice on his head.
And when he came back, he wasn't the same.
And for the next couple of games in the Olympics,
he wasn't the same.
And I get it, the game's got harder there after.
And when they played Finland for the bronze medal game,
when they played the States, they never had a chance.
And so that States team was just too fast, too skilled,
and too deep for Slovakia.
So it's hard to judge that game in his performance.
But when they played Finland, he wasn't himself.
His team lost big versus a team
that they beat in the first game of the Olympics.
And I think the fact that he took a shot,
coupled with the fact that he came back with no medal,
coupled with the fact that it was just a roller coaster
of emotions, and the trip, and the fatigue,
and carrying a nation on his back,
and the jet lag in this and that, that's my theory.
I think if you add it all together,
this is why you struggled, and this is why I'm giving him a pass.
I'm good.
You're not amazing for two months,
and amazing in three or four very big
and important Olympic games, and all of a sudden,
some are saying, oh my God, what's wrong with Slovakia?
Slovakia will be fine, Brian.
He'll be fine.
But now this, putting him back with Suzuki and Coffield,
I think this is just what the doctor ordered
at the right time, and by the way,
I know Suzuki and Coffield didn't have a good game last game.
I think they need Slovakia.
I think Slovakia needs them,
and I think Kirby Doc's effort level last game,
there's no problem with Kirby Doc
moving down to the third line.
That's right there.
Yeah, I love your theory.
I've just one thought that I want to make
in terms of asking you a question though,
is like do you feel now, when you've all that you've seen
in everything, do you feel like he's having
posed concussive symptoms, or is it more fear
of getting it again, or it's still all fatigue and let down?
No, last game, and I know that he was unable to,
last game was his best game, like he had a ton of shots,
and I think only of them, three of them hit the target.
I don't know if you had a chance to see
the hockey stack card last game.
I didn't see the stack card.
So why don't I do this?
Why don't I bring it up right now?
I'm going to send it over to Shane Gomal,
and I'm going to bring up because of bed.
Because I think that this is, I think this is very good.
I think it's something that you need to see.
The hockey stack card, and I don't want to give it away,
but I'm going to tell you that I think
that you might actually be a little bit surprised by it.
So here we go.
I've sent it over to Shane's hockey stack card.
I think it's very accurate.
So probably my favorite metric.
So perfect.
Look at the, OK, who in your opinion
was the best Montreal Canadiens forward last game,
or the best two, because the two come to my mind right away.
Coffield and Suzuki had quite a hard time.
Correct.
Man, I didn't really think.
New hook at two goals, right?
New hook had two goals.
So I mean, he would obviously be up there.
He powered the third period.
A really, really like New Hook more than some fans do.
I think he still has breakout in him.
I haven't said they got a couple of points.
I thought Evans and New Hook, you're
by far the best Canadian's forward last game.
OK, I didn't, I didn't pencil Evans.
I just know that the top line struggled and the second line
struggled.
And I really didn't like the so-called shutdown line at all.
I think they're aging fast and worried about them.
So I have New Hook and I really can't come up with a second.
So perfect.
So what that said, you said that you think
that the hockey stack card is very accurate, OK?
Yeah, I do.
I really did.
And I tend to agree with you.
There's sometimes that the stack card sees certain things
that I don't, but most of the time,
like before I even look at the stack card,
I could pretty much guess who were the three or four
most effective forwards?
Who were the two or three least effective forwards?
Who were the two most effective defensemen?
And who were the two least effective defensemen, OK?
So if you have last game in your head,
and now you take a look at the stock card,
Chingamaw Master control, if you can bring it up,
Jake Evans and Alex New Hook are leading the way.
Slavkowski was the fourth most effective forward
in the hockey stack card.
Now, who were the three least effective?
The guys that want to combine minus eight
and were caved into their own zone.
Suzuki, coffee, old and Kirby dock.
Who were the two least effective defensemen?
The guys that our eye test told us were Carrier and Strubel.
And who were the two most effective?
The guys that our eye test told us as well, Hudson and Matheson.
So look at that.
Your ice love, Kowski, from a hockey stack card perspective,
last game was a score of 1.52.
He had the fourth best score of any Canadians player that night.
So I think even though he didn't produce,
his game was the best game since he returned from the Olympics.
He was coming around.
And I think he had a chance to, and about with about six minutes
left in the game in a game that was tied.
Yet a shot right from the slot.
And there was a good save that was made.
And yet a chance the beer hero last game,
but he wasn't unfortunately.
So 250, 250, the last two minutes and 50 seconds.
They had them him dim.
I thought for sure they were going to score.
You usually get rewarded for two minutes and 50 seconds
consecutively in the other team's own with Goldie Pold.
Little unlucky, you know, in terms of,
little like we don't want to rehash the entire game.
But little unlucky in terms of the extra man penalty, too.
I didn't really even feel that that was a warranted too many men
on the ice penalty to be honest.
They didn't have the pop committee.
It was really weird.
What did they, the ref punished them for three extra feet
of leaving too soon?
They, you don't get punished at the NHL level much,
you know, leaving a little early.
We are, we're going to, by the way,
you talked about the Leafs and I just saw something that came up.
Maple Leafs cramming two six game losing streaks inside a 15 game span.
They have two regulation wins in their last nine games.
Man, what'd it be fun to do sports in Toronto right now
because they're so bad?
And by the way, speaking of which, back on the 9th of February,
if memory shows me well, I think the date was the 9th.
We debuted a show out of Toronto, the Sid Sixero show.
And if you can watch it, it's on YouTube.
It's a fantastic show.
So Sid is doing really, really good things with that show.
And yeah, I love the fact that he's got his name on it.
The Sid Sixero show powered by sick media.
I mean, that's, that's, that's pretty cool.
Okay.
Oh, and he's, he's got a lot to talk about.
He's got a lot to talk about.
Yeah, they must be up in arms because, I mean,
they thought they were going to win a cup
as soon as last year or two years ago, right?
I'm going to put up my, I'm going to, I'm going to put up my hand.
Okay. My heart goes out to them.
I got it wrong.
I got it wrong.
You thought they were going to win a cup?
I thought they were going to win a cup.
Yeah, did you?
Yeah.
No, I didn't.
I never liked the core four.
You owe really good.
I never believed in them.
I never believed in them.
You're smarter than me.
I thought they were going to win a cup.
And as a matter of fact, they had the best chance
was when they had Zach Hyman.
Yeah.
That was a big, big dumb move by the organization.
And he's been amazing in Edmonton that they, that they treated him the way that they
treated him.
Like they should have given him a big offer and they should have kept him down.
He is a playoff performer.
He's a blood and guts guy that they made a big, and I think Zach Hyman, if we're looking
for a, a winger to play with the Montreal Canadiens to fill out their top six, that dude
would be great.
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Buffalo.com, and he writes about the Buffalo Sabers, says that based on his information,
the Sabers are closing in on Logan Stanley of the Winnipeg Jets.
It's a six foot seven defenseman, and that would make sense, because guess what?
The Sabers are on side.
They don't like any one under six five six foot four Samuelsen, no, six one, Bowen Byron.
Okay, thank you.
Bowen Byron is six one, Rasmus DeLine is six three, Samuelsen is six four, Owen Power
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I like Logan Stanley a lot, he's a, he's a left handed shot.
And by the way, he reports, they might be in on Luke Shen as well.
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Could you imagine?
Luke Shen hasn't had a great season, but he's highly respected.
I would take Luke Shen on the Canadians right now.
Yeah.
What did you?
I would, yeah, I said on Blue Sky that I would, I would be interested in him.
And I mentioned I'd be very interested if the Maple Leafs have decided that they're
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That would be a real great acquisition.
And I think it would take a first rounder.
And that's okay, because that's the 25th pick overall.
And that's a 50, 50 prop with a 5% success rate for being a star.
So go for it.
Yeah.
And it's not because Michael H. Panned out at 21 that you have to be worried about giving
up 25, because like you said, there are numbers, there are statistics playing math.
I mean, Mishar was 26.
There you go.
Unfortunately for him.
I watched something other night that, that game there and for Laval when they were terrible
against the Toronto Marles and he showed me nothing.
It's been a disappointment, obviously, Mishar.
I mean, it's not over for him, but you know, the, the road is running out.
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Shane Gomo, in about a minute, I'm going to ask you to bring up the Eastern Conference.
Actually, you know what?
Why don't we do it at near the end of the show because there's some games that are not finalized
yet?
So, why don't we do this before we get to our Q&A, Brian?
Why don't we get to the lines?
When we got these from Canadians.com, earlier today, here are the lines, Suzuki with Slough
Kowski on his right and coffee on his left, Capitan with Demi Dov on his right and Newhook
on his left, Jake Evans, centering Dock on his right and Bulldoch on his left, Dano
with Gallagher on his right, and Josh Anderson on his left, Carrier Gouli that should be Hudson
and Dopson, Jack I and Strubel, I don't know why that was crossed out, by the way, and Dolby
Shannon.
I don't think Matheson had a day off, that's why.
No, no, I understand that, but I don't know why there's a line through Hudson and what
you've done.
Yeah, but, yes, it says Patrick Lyney and Alexander Dexie skated his extras while Mike
Matheson was absent from the session, taking a therapy day instead, all right, okay.
Before we get to our question and answers, let's say the Canadians would have added Nikola
Huat today and his five goals, okay, and they would have had him for tomorrow night's
game, yeah.
Where would he be in the lineup?
You'll understand where I'm going with this in a second.
Old dukes?
Spot?
So you'd move the centerman to the wing?
Yeah, I think so, because you're not suggesting Dano out of the lineup, are you?
They just acquired him?
No, no, I had a discussion earlier on French television tonight where my buddy, G.C.
La Joie, said that the Canadians should have been in on Nikola Huat, because if they would
have been, he would have been centering the second line for the Canadians tomorrow night.
Oh, come on.
And I said, well, no, he wouldn't have.
And I said, how many goals did he have?
And he said, well, he's just having a bad season, but he should be centering the line.
And I said, well, listen, all the recaptains got 19 goals.
And he's on pace for 26.
So all the recaptains centering your second line.
The thing too is somebody says somebody's just having a bad season.
You can't, like, I had this discussion with somebody today when I was talking about
whether you'd want Robert Thomas.
And I said one of the things that I didn't like about Thomas is he's got six goals in 52
playoff games.
That's not a really good number.
And they said, well, to be fair, he was a rookie in the first season when they won the cup.
And, you know, that total of 52 is, you know, mitigated by the 20 that was his first year.
And I'm like, well, hold it now.
Like why are we arguing to be fair is like taking away a statistic.
Fairness is relying on the statistic, not fairness is throwing facts away so you can
win your argument.
So somebody can say, Niqua, oh, he's just having a bad season, but to be fair, well, that's
not fair.
Fair is actually using the numbers and winning an argument with them.
Yeah.
And so he's not been good, and Thomas's playoff goal scoring is a little bit of a concern.
You want a guy to rise to the top when the playoffs start.
And so far in his career, he's been quite an underachiever in the playoffs, not to suggest
he's soft or anything, but the numbers are what the numbers are.
And I think when I mentioned the numbers, I'm actually the one being fair.
I hear you.
And listen, sports is a matter of opinion, I guess, and I guess there's no right answer.
But obviously, I know I was right, and so does everyone else in Montreal.
But that's okay.
You know what?
In terms of what?
I think it made for good television.
Well, Niqua was obviously what would obviously not be the second line center of the
Canadian.
No, no, no.
And sometimes he hears some, some things that I think come from a little bit of heritage.
So like you know this milieu, a lot more than I expected from heritage.
That's a great way.
Yeah, man.
You're the best man.
So I think there's a little heritage in that discussion.
All right.
Okay.
Sam Carrick.
Tabuffalo.
I think Shane is letting us know that Sam Carrick has been traded to the Buffalo Sabers.
Shane, if you could tell us what the return is for now, Antonio, they're coming now,
who is something he's going to have a day tomorrow.
He's eight.
Was that was that was a toughest nails player with the New York Rangers.
And you know, he's a he's a he's a right handed centerman who can also play wing.
He's a veteran.
He's 34 years old.
And but this Buffalo Sabers team like they're not messing around.
They want to add size.
Hey, they want to act great.
They want to.
It's 15 years since they made the playoffs.
Yeah, but they're going to go from making the playoffs after 15 years to being a serious
Stanley Cup contender.
Yeah.
No, I'm just making the argument of, you know, why the general manager is going for it.
They're a serious Stanley Cup guy.
And then it's like, Hey, we've been bad a long time.
We got to show our fans something.
Yeah.
They're a serious Stanley Cup contender.
All right.
Okay.
I agree.
You're ready to start the Q&A or you want to just one minute on the lines because no,
no, nothing more on the lines.
I like new hook getting a chance for sure.
I'm a big new hook fan.
And when he's got four points in three games after breaking his ankle, that's pretty
goddamn good for a guy just coming back.
You would, you couldn't ask for more than that.
Just before we get to the questions, I have a couple thoughts I want to leave on the
table.
Yeah.
If they were interested in a centerman, what do you think of Trochek?
I really like his profile.
I mean, he's 32 now.
Yeah.
He's out of bits, but he's still a really nice hockey player.
His numbers are pretty good this year on a bad hockey team that's given up.
I think he's a really good second line center.
I'm going to tell you something.
You're interested.
Go ahead.
I like Trochek more than I like Coddry.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, you've got a better profile in terms of age, for sure.
If you're worried about aging out, Coddry's 35, Troche's 32.
So you got bad as a big winner.
I think he's got a nicer contract.
I believe as well, Trochek's underpaid, I believe, four and a half-ish and Coddry's
seven and a half-ish.
I mean, these are just numbers.
I'm off the screen.
Yeah.
No, I think Trochek is, I think Trochek's more expensive than that as a matter of fact.
I think he's got a million more.
Okay.
5.625.
That's what I thought.
Yeah.
Okay.
So I'm off by a million, but that's not.
So five, six, seven, he's got three years left on his deal.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's okay.
And tough as nails in the playoffs.
He's been a real good performer.
He's a great face off player, Brian.
He's a great face off player.
Yeah.
I really like it.
Like if you were breaking.
Frankly, you know, and I know this is probably not going to be a heritage moment for me now
that I can keep using this theme, but it might have been wise to wait on Trochek instead
of a choir to know because Dino is lost to step Tony.
Yeah.
Dino is lost to step.
He's lost to step.
Yeah.
And the good point is he's only got 20 games this year and 82 next year.
It's not an albatross around the neck of the organization.
So it's fine.
You know what I mean?
But we can see that entire line is aging out right in front of our eyes.
Yes.
I know that.
But you know what Brian.
The lab leaders that really like that line.
I am not one of them.
Yeah.
But you're likely, with all due respect, you're likely going to see those three players
on that line.
Probably have their final days with the Canadians by the end of the next season when
they're contracts right now.
That's it.
For sure.
100%.
Yeah.
That's why they got three guys waiting in the wings.
There's too many.
You don't want like, there's too many, even if they would take a hometown discount.
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I think he's got a chance if he takes a discount before them, it'll be tough, I think.
I think there's too many guys, too many young guys waiting, like you said, too many young
guys waiting.
Yeah, you know, like when you look at those three that I've just mentioned that I think
are aging out rapidly and will be done at the end of their contracts, which expire next
year.
You've got easily hage Sharovsky that are replacing him.
You've got Bulldoch who sits some nights.
You've got Texia, they signed for three who sits right now, Owen Beck's ready to play
in the NHL.
I mean, the bodies are there waiting at full position to step in.
It's not like they'll be a dearth if all three are done.
They're ready.
The bodies are ready.
I think Owen Beck is ready and I got it by next year.
I also think Florian Jack is going to be ready.
Really?
You know, yeah, he's our horse.
I think so.
I think so.
I think Florian Jack, I can be on the, on the Canadians next year in the fourth lane.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
And that's how everybody's felt about them too.
Like, and I think you can get like, there are a lot of rumors circulating all the time.
For example, who's ever the mouthpiece that's giving the media, all the news in St. Louis, shut the hell
up.
You know, shut the hell up.
I know what you're trying to do.
You're trying to create a marketplace for Thomas
that's exorbitant, like four prime assets.
Like at some point, shut the hell up.
Like everybody knowing Colton Perrego is traded.
Like you're not supposed to be a mouthpiece on that
until Colton says, I'm okay with that.
Like that's a big organizational mistake.
So I hear you.
So we heard that it's on Thomas
and we should hear more on Trochec
because he is also on the block.
Yes, but I'm gonna say this.
I know it's not the same discussion,
but teams talk to members of the media, man.
It's just the way it's always has been
and they just continue to talk on this matter.
And you're right, they shouldn't have talked until
he agreed to waive the no trade.
There's no doubt about it.
You know, well, they're setting a marketplace.
That's what a general manager or the lackey
of a general manager, whoever he makes the mouthpiece.
He's saying set the marketplace for me on Robert Thomas.
I want four prime assets.
Tell everybody that's what I want.
And even if the blues actually are saying,
we're not getting four, tell everybody it's four
because I want you to set the marketplace for us.
Can it be, it might be just three that they're hoping for?
Can it be that they actually leak the trade
for so that it so that it's out there to try and force his hand
so that he says, yeah, okay, I'll waive it.
I mean, all right, it's out there.
Everyone's talking about it.
People are saying, oh my God, the Buffalo Sabers,
what a powerhouse would call to break
while they're going to the Stanley Cup final this,
that and whatever and all that stuff.
Can that be?
I think so.
100% 100% that's not even can it be.
That's probably what happened
because, but you have to be, you have to be more responsible.
You know, I don't know if it goes as high as Armstrong,
maybe it's a lackey lower than him, you know what I mean?
Yeah, but you have to be more responsible.
They're human beings in this equation.
And Colton Pericco is now being viewed as like the bad guy
and that's so unfair to him.
It's so unfair to him or to the right to have a no trade.
And the exercise is no trade.
Yeah, I remember when Matt Sundee,
remember when Matt Sundee had a no trade in Toronto
and he exercised it and then he got booed.
Like you put Matt Sundee.
Yeah, he's a legend.
Come on, you can't boo Matt Sundee.
So it's too bad it happened that way.
And I think there needs to be some real gut check time
in St. Louis among the management to get mature, to grow up.
Mike Sullivan says the near-crangers talk
before antivids and trochec and Sam Carrick
before scratching them due to roster management.
We tell them the truth.
He said, we're honest with them.
They deserve that.
All right, okay.
So we'll continue to monitor this situation.
Paul Maurice on Y.A.J. Greer, who's from Joliad,
by the way, did not play tonight with Columbus.
I think they're calling that roster management
is very sought after young man
and that'll sort itself out over the next 24 hours.
So there you have it.
Okay.
Would you take AJ Greer and Davis?
Like AJ Greer, they don't need a player like that.
The Canadians?
The Canadians, yeah.
I take him right away.
Yeah, but how many bodies do you want, Tony?
I think you're looking for game changers.
Like you like that's, if I'm the general manager,
I don't need more third before slime bodies.
Do the Canadians really have an energy line?
The last couple of years, and I know it's,
you know, it doesn't have to be a copycat lead,
but the last couple of years have shown us.
The teams that win the cup, they have an energy line.
I mean, the energy line was famous with the Detroit Red Wings
when they had Draper and Moppy and McCarty.
They was, it was, it was, it was, it was famous
with the New Jersey Devils when they had,
Murphy was on that line and they had, and they had Randy McKay
and they had Bobby Holik.
It was, it was famous the last couple of years in Florida
and AJ Greer was on that line.
The Canadians don't have an energy line.
The Boston Bruins have an energy line.
There's some teams that have an energy line.
The Canadians don't have one.
AJ Greer has 11 goals and 61 games.
He's got 22 points.
This guy gives you 100% of what he has.
He defences teammates.
He defences teammates.
He's 29, he's six foot three, 250 pounds.
He's a Jollyhead boy.
The price is not going to be exorbitant, Brian.
No, it's not going to be exorbitant,
but what about all the bodies and what are you going to do with them?
You think they're taking, you think they're taking Gallagher
on the, on the other side of that?
Like what are you going to see?
You know, you're, you've got only so much money
you can put on the roster and only so many bodies on the roster.
I mean, bulldover already sat and text you a sitting
and they only texted, they signed two months ago.
Are you starting to wonder why they did?
Well, yeah, if you're going to sit a guy two months
after you sign them, yeah, I'm definitely wondering.
And also when Trochex on the market right now
for what everybody's saying is not going to be very expensive,
I'm wondering why they hunted to no doubt.
Yeah, I hear you now having said that.
I'm going to say this.
I think AJ Grew is going to end up going
to a Stanley Cup contender.
I'm not so sure the Montreal Canadians are that team.
I want to be surprised, I want to be surprised
if the Buffalo Sabres are going to be in on AJ Grew.
It's going to be in on everyone.
No cap limitations at all,
just because they didn't find.
Yeah, because you remember they had a big guy on their fourth line
that I think they lost the injury, right?
Isn't Greenway out?
Yeah.
So you know what?
I wouldn't be surprised if they're going to be in on him.
I really wouldn't.
When we're still lying in it, you like him?
I think he'd be a good good member
of the Montreal Canadians.
His prices.
Not needs for the team are right shot defensemen.
Obviously, like they're not getting comfortable with Jacki.
They're not getting comfortable with Struple.
And who is last on your stat card just now?
Struple on defense.
Yes, right?
So like they're missing, they're missing a six defenseman on
somebody.
Somebody answered that the Koreans were in, you know,
went out to get the know when Jake Evans was hurt.
How long did we think Jake Evans was going to be hurt?
I hear you.
Like when they're going to miss the playoffs or was the team going to
fall apart without, you know, when they were a little bit light
at center because of injuries, like, and I'm not knocking
Hughes here.
I mean, I think Hughes is amazing.
You know that he's the best general manager this century
for the Montreal Canadian.
I know what it's search of art, you know what?
I think so too.
And with, with all the respect to the center who still is in
pole position because he has two Stanley cups as a GM,
I believe when all will be said and done,
Kent Hughes will go down as the best Montreal Canadians,
general managers and Sam Paulock.
Yeah, and I love him too.
But having said that, having said that,
I would have gone after Conor Murphy and I don't understand
how Conor Murphy who was moved for a second round pick
to the Emmet De Noires, the Canadians didn't have
offer a second and a fifth.
Like I don't, I don't so, but now there's some things
that we don't know and, and, and you know what?
Maybe they have somebody else identified.
Maybe for whatever reason they just don't want to
trade with the Canadians.
I don't know, but, but let's say this, Tony,
I'm going to say this.
If it's 305 tomorrow and I'm sitting right beside you,
I'm going to look at you if they haven't done anything,
and I'm going to say they really needed to get a defenseman
that they were comfortable with as the 60 on the team,
because they do not have one.
And it will hurt them.
It will hurt them.
I think they needed to, by the way,
so we're going to get to, we keep on saying,
we're going to get to that Q&A and we are, okay?
Yeah, but anytime.
You and I, I think are on the same page, okay?
They've got to do that.
It's a huge need.
Everyone wants the center, and I wouldn't say no
to a second-line centerman, and they would take so much pressure off
of Capitan who, by the way,
I think one day is going to end up scoring 25 goals as a third-line
centerman, which is going to be unbelievable.
I wouldn't say no to a second-line centerman.
I wouldn't say no to a top six player.
I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't.
But here's where we know.
There's only two teams, I believe, that have scored more goals
than the Canadians thus far this season.
Colorado and Edmonton.
The Canadians have offense.
You can tell me that goals are going to be harder
to come by in the playoffs.
They're going to be harder to come by for everybody.
For every team.
There are only eight teams that have
conceded more goals than the Canadians, only eight.
Those eight, none of them are making the playoffs.
So the Canadians could see too many goals.
There's only five teams that have a worse penalty kill
than the Canadians.
And the Canadians goalies have a below 900 safe percentage
since the holidays.
So having said all of that,
you can't go out and get four or five pieces
and trade deadline day.
It doesn't work that way.
I mean, it's pretty hard to do that.
If they can get a stay-at-home defenseman, big, strong,
ideally a right-handed one.
Who can eat shit out of everybody in front of the net?
Who can eat minutes, ideally,
because you can get one that can play 12 to 16.
And you can get one that can play 16 to 20.
You can get one that can play 20 and more, right?
There's different tiers.
And the one that can play 20 and more.
That's really, really hard to come by.
But if you can get one that can play somewhere between 16 and 20,
I think that player makes your defense better.
I think that player puts everyone
in their best chair possible.
That's what I was going to say, best chair.
I think that player makes your system look better.
I think that player brings down your goals against.
I think that player
gives you the ability to win games
when you're up by a goal late in the game.
I think that player makes your penalty kill better.
And by all of that getting better
and you're protecting your goalie,
that player ends up bringing up your goalie stats as well.
So for me, the priority.
I know it's not popular because everyone wants the center in the goal score.
And I'll take it.
Right.
For me, it's the defense, but we could eat minutes, ideally on the right side.
Yeah, that's what I feel is the number one need of the team too.
Because as you just mentioned,
all the offense seems to be taking care of it can always get better.
But it's pretty much taking care of.
When you're third in the league, it's pretty much taking care of it.
And yeah, it's going to be harder to score.
Sure, it's going to be harder for everybody to score.
You're still third.
Yeah.
Imagine if you would.
Carlow comes from the Maple Leafs.
Remind me, what did he go for last year from Boston?
Fraser Minton.
Fraser Minton.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fraser Minton.
It's going to cost, you know, it's going to cost a little for sure.
It might be your first rounder.
25th pick.
But imagine a scenario now.
Hudson can be on his preferred left side all the time.
Yeah, you got a first pairing.
A Matheson and Dobson.
You got a condition.
You got a second pair of Hudson and Carlow.
Yeah.
And you got a third pair of Goole and Carrier.
And everybody's in their proper seat.
Everybody is assigned where they can be.
Everybody's on the left that belongs on the left.
Everybody's on the first pair that belongs on the first.
Everybody's on the second that belongs on the second.
Everybody's on the third.
It belongs on the third.
Just imagine the level of improvement from that.
Yeah.
Instead of the nine or eight minutes,
that I'm not saying that we feels comfortable enough to give Arbor Jacki.
And remember, when you're only comfortable in the regular season to give eight minutes,
how many minutes are you comfortable in the playoffs to give Arbor Jacki?
And also, how hard are the working minutes in the regular season to playoffs?
You're giving 21 hard minutes to Dobson.
Those feel like 27 in the playoffs.
You're giving 26 to Matheson.
That feels like 32 in the playoffs.
And should it go to overtime?
And you only like five in your D.
Those guys are exhausted halfway through the first overtime period.
Yeah.
So that's the biggest need for me is the guy that Mantis and Luis says,
I love that guy.
I love that right side D guy that I'm using on my second pair.
If they did that, I like them in the playoffs a lot more.
They got a conditional first for Brandon Carlo
and they got a fourth pick as well.
Matthew Knies, Matthew Knies could be available for Toronto,
but it would take a massive off of the paper.
I heard that.
I heard that.
That's talking like what what phase of this rebuild or reset
to the Maple Leafs think they're in.
Why would Matthew Knies be on the block?
I saw that article and I made my head explode.
Why?
Yeah.
That makes no sense.
I would take him on my team, but I don't see the Canadians trading in.
By the way, I think if Toronto, if Toronto say we gave a first,
a fourth and Fraser Minton for Brandon Carlo one year later,
we want the same return that we gave up or close.
Yeah.
I don't think the Canadians can do that.
But if Toronto want to trade Brandon Carlo for a couple of draft picks
and a B prospect, yeah, or you know, a draft pick and a B prospect again,
Boston Toronto, Fraser Minton.
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Uh, I don't know.
I don't know.
Bumping that okay.
Fraser Minton, no one back her.
My little low one, Owen Beck.
Fraser Minton's got 14 goals and 29 points and 61 games.
Uh, I, you know what?
He's too low on Owen Beck.
He's a six foot two two hundred and four pound
sentiment that I think can end up being a 20 goal
score in the National Hockey League.
I don't think going back can be that guy.
All right.
So the Canadians don't have a prospect
then that they would be interested in.
Because you're not getting the top tier.
You're not getting Jorovsky.
You're not getting age.
So you're dropping a tier.
And so that makes the carlo trade.
Well, what they are, I'm sure they would,
I'm sure they would definitely take cap it in.
But I'm not doing that for a player,
Brendan Carlo.
That's 29 years old.
It's got a couple of years left.
It's contract.
I'm not doing that.
I'm not saying cap it in.
I'm talking about a guy that's Minton ish.
He's got a year left on his contract.
They by the way, he's in year five of six.
So he's got next year and the rest of this year.
Well, okay.
So that means his value has gone down even from last year.
Yeah, you don't own him as long, right?
Correct.
I like Brandon Carlo a lot, by the way.
I you know what six foot five two three six foot five two twenty five right
handed charges here too.
He would be just what the doctor ordered for the Monterey.
He really would check his plus minus Tony.
Yeah, on a terrible hockey club.
That's right.
I'm calling the Maple Leafs a terrible hockey club.
Such happiness.
I'll do that right now.
Okay.
I'm keeping you busy tonight.
Toronto.
Okay, let's go to skaters.
Let's go to the fence.
Okay, we got it.
Brandon Carlo.
It's good.
What plus six?
Yeah, come on.
Plus six.
That's crazy.
What's their differential?
As I make you go to the standings now.
Yeah, that's okay.
I could do that because they're differentials terrible.
And he's plus six.
That's pretty bloody impressive.
Right?
Okay, so now I'm going to go to the in the league.
And I'm going to go to the Toronto Maple Leafs.
And I'm going to go to their differential minus 21.
Yeah, plus six on a minus 21 team.
Yeah, that's good.
That's Nick Suzuki-ish.
During the rebuild in the first couple of years.
I like that name.
And guess what?
Buffalo can't have them because Toronto's definitely not helping the Buffalo
Sabers.
No way.
Yeah.
Well, maybe they wouldn't even help the...
I think they probably helped the Canadians more than they would help Buffalo.
Because could you imagine if the Buffalo Sabers
two hours proximity from Toronto end up winning the Stanley Cup?
When no one's talked about them and they've been like the laughing stock
of the league for the last 14 years.
And the Leafs were supposed to be a dynasty where they were supposed to win
two or three cups with the core.
Yeah, yeah.
That would be crazy.
Okay, I want to show you some names.
We're going to bring them up very quickly.
There are about 50 names.
Okay, I want to credit Frank Saravali
because I'm using this.
I got it from Frank Saravali.
Okay, I was looking for...
Because everything's been so easy for him.
I've been looking for players that are available.
And Frank put out a list of his top 50 players that could be dangled.
So here we go.
Justin Fock, Vincent Trollcheck, Blake Coleman.
Oh, I like that he's got the shooting way there.
That's good.
Yeah, okay.
Why don't we do this?
You want to take a look at right hand of the defenseman?
Oh, well, we can look at him right now because it's right there.
Okay, yeah.
Okay, well, let's just concentrate on right D.
Okay.
Okay.
Justin Fock.
Yeah.
Rasmus Ristilainen.
Trevor Van Riemstein.
Yeah.
Colton Perrico.
Oliver Ekman Larson.
No, definitely not.
Doug E. Hamilton.
Next page.
Jonathan Kovasevich.
Oh, I can't name me.
Yeah.
Troy Stetcher.
Next.
No other right D's in a top 50.
Now Brandon Carmel is not on this list.
Well, he's Kirby Docs in the final year of his contract.
Okay.
Right.
Now he's an RFA.
He's in the final year of his contract and it hasn't been overly conclusive.
Yeah.
So those are the right hand of the defenseman that according to Frank
are, you know, likely to be dealt.
Brandon Carmel is not on that list.
Who would you like the most on the first page?
I mentioned Ristilainen earlier.
Well, there's something going on there.
Colton Perrico has not come into the Canadians.
I don't like Oliver Ekman Larson.
They're looking for a defensive profile.
Doug E. Hamilton, there's something going on there.
He's unpopular in every dressing room that he's ever been in.
Out of that first page, I like Ristilainen the most.
Trevor Membrane's deck is a rental.
He's in year three of three.
He's 34 years old.
And so if the price is in big,
you ask him.
He plays on your third pairing and he's an upgrade.
He's an upgrade on what they have.
For sure.
He's an upgrade on what they have.
Because once again, you end up moving ghoulie now to the third pair.
Can we get the second page?
Is there anybody worth considering on that?
Thank you, Shane.
So you can end up putting Matheson with Dopson.
You can end up putting Hudson with Carrier.
You can end up putting ghoulie with Trevor Membrane's deck.
It's not something that's going to improve you a lot,
but I think it'll improve you a little bit.
Ultimately, the real goal is if you could even be comfortable
and think that the player was talented enough
that they ended up being second pair.
Yeah, and play with Lane Hudson.
That would be best.
So let me ask you this.
It's a discussion that we had.
It doesn't look like Colton Prickle wants to come to the Canadians.
But if he would be willing to,
if the Blues were going to trade him for Radham Murkha and a first,
Murkha is a former ninth pick overall, the 2025 draft.
Ryan Bakker is the fifth pick overall in the draft of,
I think it was 23.
Would you do Ryan Bakker in the first for Colton Prickle?
No, I wouldn't because of the age.
Like I'm like, you know, like people like are always talking these days,
especially you're hearing a lot of chatter about how amazing Robert Thomas is.
And of course, he's a really great player.
Like don't get me wrong.
But one of the things in the salary cap world that people don't discuss enough is
you're not sure how good Michael H. could be, right?
Yeah.
Well, he's cost control for like five years.
And the other guy's making eight already.
And like that's value.
$975,000 a year is value.
So if one guy gets you 75 points for $8 million
and the other guy gets you 55 points for $975,000,
there's really no comparison between those two players, Tony.
The $975,000 player for 20 less points has way more value.
So I would stay with Michael H.
And I'm the same way with Paraco versus Ryan Bakker.
I have expectations that he'll still be good.
I'm disappointed so far, but
he's a 21 year old defenseman.
And they have like even Logan Mayuga, 22 minutes last night, Tony.
Like it can happen.
Keep reading on defenseman.
They can figure it out.
So I think Ryan Bakker's still going to figure it out.
So I would not make that deal.
And you wouldn't either.
No, I wouldn't.
No, no, I wouldn't.
Yeah.
You know, um, another thing that no one's talking about.
Expansions coming in the NHL, right?
Yeah, Pierre keeps mentioning that.
I don't really see many headlines on it though,
but if they can get a hundred million dollars each,
they're going to take it in the other side mean.
So, um, I think NHL expansion is coming in the National Hockey League.
Is it going to be seven, three and one again?
They they they are not pursuing expansion,
but the future expansion feed by the way is about two billion dollars.
And cities like Atlanta, Austin, Houston, Indianapolis, New Orleans have expressed interest.
By the way, this is courtesy of I think the Internet or Wikipedia or whatever it is.
And um, it's important to keep young players.
Players that are in their first couple of seasons don't have to be protected.
That's right.
Our outside of the protected, right?
Like if you get it.
Yeah.
Barraco and they announced expansionally, it's already,
if they go by the exact same rules as the last time when it was seven forwards,
three D and one goalie or four, four,
depending if you like your defenseman more.
Yeah.
You got a hard choice already for those three defensemen.
Yes.
Right?
And you'd have to leave Matheson off because of his age.
It would be Dopson, Hudson and Gully.
Yeah.
And hope nobody takes Matheson D because of his age when you're, you know,
a franchise is just starting out.
So it already be dicey.
You had a Barraco.
It even gets more dicey.
So you're absolutely right.
There's value in the exempted player of which right backer would be one.
There's, there's the other thing as well is that, um,
look, I know that and by the way, out of all the trades that we've discussed,
for me, the one that's the trickiest would be this whole Robert Thomas thing, okay?
Because I like them a lot.
A 26 year old right hand that centerman,
who averages, give or take about 70 points per year up until now,
who had points in the 80s, the last two seasons,
who's going to be in their contract for the rest of this season.
And the next five years after that,
you're getting him, you're getting him at his best.
He's a former Stanley Cup champion.
So he knows what it takes.
He's a Canadian boy and Ontario kid.
So he knows how big hockey is in Canada.
He's very respected by his teammates.
No one's ever said a peep about him.
He's never had a problem with any coach that's ever coached them.
Um, at $8.1 million a year, which is a great contract.
Because let's just say even a guy like Michael H.
Burns the first year of his contract,
the M for two.
If he signs a seven year deal after that,
there's a pretty good chance he might even sign for more than $8 million.
So, you know, there's so many things that I like.
But Suzuki's got five years left.
Right.
After, you know, uh, Thomas would have five years left as well.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, when you say Suzuki is five years left,
let's make sure everybody understands the contract five years.
Correct.
So he's got 10 years left as hockey.
No doubt about it.
Okay.
So Nick Suzuki has five years left on his contract,
the fun non-mistake in five, six, seven, eight.
He's got four and a half years left on his contract.
Okay.
Five, six, seven, eight yet.
Nick Suzuki has four and a half years left on his contract.
Okay.
At the end of his contract, he's a UFA.
Okay.
Now, everyone knows that you want to re-up Nick Suzuki already when he's a UFA and he's 30 years old.
Okay, you want to get that done beforehand.
Okay.
Yeah.
Let's just say for whatever reason,
it's not going to happen.
Let's just say it's not going to happen.
And let's just say you get Robert Thomas.
And after this year, he's got five years left and at the end of his contract,
he's a UFA.
And let's just say he doesn't end up staying either.
Now, I get it.
If, if a disaster like that would happen,
you would end up trading them and you would get something
for them, you would not make them walk for nothing.
Mind you, sometimes in that final year,
a team thinks that they're close to a cop.
And they actually, you know,
what will keep the player?
And if he's losing him for nothing,
they lose him for nothing,
or they're trying to negotiate with another team
for his negotiation rights before July 1st opens up, right?
Yeah.
With a guy like Cage,
because a lot of people are saying,
yeah, yeah, I give Cage.
If Cage burns a year from his contract, he's got two.
If they sign him to Max, he's got seven.
Now, all of a sudden, you have nine.
So now, if your first window is four years, four to five years,
you have another player that gives you an opportunity
of having a window of nine.
So that's why I'm not doing it,
but I respect everyone's opinion that would do it,
because you'd be getting a really good player in return.
But Craig Button was my guest last night,
and he said unequivocally,
when no hesitation, he would trade him.
As much as he loves Michael H,
he would trade him no doubt about it for Robert Thomas.
Immediately without any hesitation whatsoever.
All right, so does Button have any untouchables?
We didn't discuss it, but if Michael Hague is considered the best prospect
on the Montreal Canadians, and you're willing to trade him,
and then I guess you're willing to trade the other.
Now, he did say, he did say,
hey, look, if they would ask for Michael H,
Gen Oliver Capitan, I'm not doing it.
He believes that it would be a great trade for both teams
if it was H for Thomas one for one.
Why do people think St. Louis's rebuild is like this 10-year project?
I don't understand that thinking.
They've had like 850 gold tending this year.
Biddington's been brutal.
They haven't gotten a save this whole year.
They're back up sucks too.
They're a good hockey team.
They're not that bad, but when you're goalie,
let's end five a night at an average 30-shot game.
You don't win a lot of games.
Look at the Ottawa Senators.
They can't get a save.
That's a good hockey team.
Their metrics are top five in some instances.
You look at goals expected.
Corsi, Fenwick, they're like top five.
And they're going to miss the playoffs.
Gold tending matters.
I don't think the Blues rebuild is 10 years, folks.
I think it's one year when they get a save,
because they can't get one.
On the other side of the fence,
you've got teams that are getting excellent gold tending
that can't win games.
How bad is Winnipeg?
Their goal is just one of the gold medal and stole it
with a 4.61 goals saved above expected in the final.
And Conor Halibar saves everything.
And they still suck.
St. Louis is pretty good.
They're overreacting.
Ottawa's pretty good.
They got rid of Peron tonight.
I think they're overreacting too.
Yeah, let's get to that.
Let's bring it up actually as a matter of fact.
The Ottawa Senators traded David Peron
who back to the Troy Redwings,
where he used to play conditional fourth round pick in 2026.
What do you think of that deal?
Fourth rounder.
That's a 4% chance to make it in the league.
A 0% chance to be in a star.
Yeah, one half of one.
Okay, why don't we do this?
We announced the Q&A and we haven't done it yet.
So Shane Gomo and Master Control,
I can't believe we're now 13 into the show.
This is crazy.
It's been fun, though, eh?
Yeah, my buddy just texted me,
says, Tony, you got a really long day ahead of you tomorrow.
You should probably get some sleep.
I can't because we didn't get to the Q&A.
Yeah, but yeah, tomorrow will be a long day
because I'm going to go in at around nine o'clock in the morning
and the show will start at 10.
It'll end at 12.
My French show at 12.
I'm going to start a brand new show.
The second I end the French one.
I'll start a brand new English show at 12 p.m.
And we're going to go until 5.30 p.m.
But I'm going to I'm going to leave it off to some of my people.
Eric Cosiel will be hosting tomorrow.
So I'll start off the 12 p.m. show.
I'll do a couple of minutes.
And then I'll make my way to TV sports
because I'm on the panel between 1 p.m. and 3.30 p.m.
Eric Cosiel will take over for about an hour, an hour and a half.
I like Eric.
He's fantastic.
She really is.
Shane will take over for about an hour, an hour and a half.
Madelheim will take over for about an hour, an hour and a half.
You will be on the panel.
Simos, Nick, Wavair will be on the panel.
Others will be on standby.
And then I'm going to get off the panel at 3.30 p.m.
I'm going to run from the TV studio A to go into a TV studio B
which they reserve just for me where I'm going to bring.
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My tripod and my phone and my microphone
and I'm going to host the podcast from about 3.30 to about 5.20 p.m.
At 5.20 p.m. I'm going to stop that.
I'm going to run back at the studio A
because I have my hit at 5.30 p.m.
At 5.30 p.m. I'll finish that at around 5.45 or 5.50 p.m.
At 5.50 p.m. I'll then leave there and I'll go to
Cogical Media where I'm going to do radio between 7 p.m and 8 p.m.
At 8 p.m. when I finish there, I'm going to make my way back home
and get home for about 8.40 p.m.
At 9 p.m. I'm going to watch the Canadians versus the ducks.
That'll finish at around 11.45 p.m. or so.
At 11.45 p.m. or so, I'm going to go on the Sick Podcast
Habs Post Game Show and do that till about 1 o'clock in the morning.
Oh, no way. Are you serious?
Yes.
Oh my god.
They're finishing at 1 a.m.
I'm actually going to use it.
So you with the air are starting at 11.30 tomorrow?
I'll actually be finishing at around 3 o'clock in the morning,
but what kind of finishing are we talking about?
All right, okay.
Let's get to a question.
No, no, she'll be well asleep.
Yeah, she's going to wake up.
She's already angry at you for the preview.
She's going to wake up.
Trust me.
All right, she knows right now.
She knows what time it is.
We're marinara.
All right, okay.
I just tell her it's time for marination.
All right, okay, let's get to the Q&A.
I love this thing.
There's no way I can get fired.
Like I pretty much my own boss.
Oh, right.
I'm not going to fire myself, right?
They didn't ask any of this.
What do we give for Tro check?
All right.
Brian?
Well, he's going to take a first for sure, right?
He's going to take your first, because the value of the first
is not great.
It's just 25th overall pick, which is not amazing.
And I would say you'd have to throw in a prospect too.
Pretty good prospect as well.
And your grade A, not your Xerovsky or your Hage,
but grade just under A.
We might as well give a quick little list of the prospects.
I feel you've got two untouchables.
My untouchables are Hage and Fowler.
Then you've got close to untouchables.
And that's Xerovsky and Ryan Becker.
And then the lower level starts with Owen Beck.
And I think he's the only skater at that level.
And then you have a lower level still.
The J- I don't know what the Joshua was.
I don't know what category I put him in,
but I'm a big Adam Angstrom fan.
I like him a lot.
Oh, I'm so sorry.
I forgot Adam Angstrom.
My apologies.
He would be in the Beck category.
My apologies.
Becker Angstrom.
Which is your third tier?
Third tier, yeah.
So you've got two guys in the first tier.
And then you've got two guys in the second tier.
And then two guys in the third tier,
just Becker Angstrom.
And then the rest are fourth tier.
And where's the second tier?
Oh, jeez.
No, I think Becker is the third tier.
I think the Western Hockey League is pretty watered down this year.
Okay.
What do you think?
Do you think I'm right?
I'm not second tier.
That's too high for him.
Yeah.
He's in, he's in, he may be in the Beck angstrom tier
and maybe even lower.
So you know what?
Amazing things.
He had another atrick the other night.
Four young goals he's up to.
Yeah, I think we should create a tier
just for Pickford and Angstrom.
And probably call it the 2.5 tier in between the second and the third.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, Angstrom's proven himself quite a lot more already, right?
He's played in the NHL already.
Yeah.
I pickford, I am really curious about Pickford
because what he's doing is all world, right?
Yeah.
Like if we were back in the, even the Gooley days,
yeah.
You know, you would be salivating
at what he's doing in the Western Hockey League.
But Pierre was the one who mentioned it.
Brian, don't get too excited and I agree with him
that, you know, Gavin McKenna's not there.
And you know, there are a lot of guys that are
taking a lot of NIL money now in Colin Chalki.
And so that league is slightly watered down.
But the numbers are amazing.
Pierre McGuire, by the way, says that he doesn't think
that there's going to be a trade between the Canadians
and the New York Rangers because he doesn't think the relationship
ended well when they relieved Jeff Gordon of his duties.
But why does that have anything to do with that?
And he thinks it's carried over.
I don't know.
Yeah, but I always agree with Pierre.
I think he's a hockey genius.
But I think that I disagree with him on that.
And here's why.
The bottom line is you have to take care of your own team.
And if you have a good deal, you must do that deal
because you cannot let personal grievances get in the way
of creating the best hockey team that you can.
I hear you.
Benefits yourself as the general manager of that team.
You know what?
I was just going to say something.
And Bobby actually messaged it.
Everything is personal in life and sometimes even in hockey.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe that's just me.
I don't think I'd ever let my feelings get in the way of doing
the best job that I possibly could.
I hear you.
But that's just me.
I understand the way other people behave.
I've seen it in my life where I've said,
wow, person doesn't like me.
They're passing me over for something I did
and had nothing to do with work.
So it's happened in my career too.
And it happens in all careers.
So maybe Pierre is more of a pragmatist than I am.
Okay, next question.
Shane, go more on master control if you can bring it up.
Hub City icons as you think,
Louis Crevier is available.
And if so, would you, what would you pay for him?
A big, great hand to the defenseman with a heavy shot.
Looks to be a good skater for what he is.
He could be had.
Hey, I don't think that'd be costly.
I don't think so.
Yeah.
I mean, he's a, he's a seventh round pick.
But and the Chicago Black OX are willing to make trades.
I would imagine.
Yes.
So I think he can.
But I mean, I, I, I want my sense in the way
when he gets that guy for him to say
with four minutes left in the game,
that guy can play.
I can put him on ice.
Does, does Crevier answer that question for you?
Like that's the number one question.
That's the number one question for me is,
I want to know that the answer is yes.
When I'm not going to say in the way,
looks down his bench.
Robi Dove is doing it for him.
Looks down his bench and says,
what about I'm going with it?
Because he's not that with Arbor.
He's not that with Jayden.
And that is what worries me in the playoffs.
The games get tougher.
They get more physical.
They're last longer.
They go to one over time, two over times.
And you're going to be riding five D.
You know, the kid get comfortable.
You know what?
Arbor Jack, I could be the guy.
But he has an up until now.
But you know what?
You can't get comfortable with him.
I would, you know what?
It's too bad.
Like I would, I would,
and I've said this before,
like I would tell Arbor to watch tape,
a racco gouda's.
Yeah, it would be that guy.
You know?
Yeah, he's a gamer.
Gouda's right?
He's a man.
He is a gamer that guy.
Like I have mad respect for him now.
And I didn't before.
I thought he was just like a kind of a goony type
who, you know,
didn't bring much to the game.
But boy,
he was good at the Olympics, too.
Next question.
Pulling wax.
What is the issue with the development of Jack guy?
Is he lack of mental maturity?
Can he be coached?
Is Robby done not the right question?
I've said this before, Brian.
I believe that,
you know, the fact that he only played 17 games
at the American Hockey League level.
It's caught up with him.
And it's going to continue to catch up even more.
But I also believe that there will probably be another team.
And there probably is another team
that will probably live with the kind of player
that he is a little bit more so
than they're willing to right now with the cranes.
That doesn't mean that I think they're going to move him right now.
But it does mean that I don't think his career
is going to finish as a monstros Canadian.
Oh, you know, Nate?
No.
Well, he's still like he's done.
Brian, and you get to think about this, right?
I mean, they have angstrom.
They have Rhine backer.
They have Pickford.
I mean, there's there's other players that they can go out and get.
They already have all those other four or five
on their contract long term.
So I guess when I was disagreeing with you slightly there
was in terms of his age.
You know, he's still a young man.
I believe he's 23 now.
You know, he's still pretty young man.
I don't think the defensemen are finished.
They're development until maybe even 27.
Like Mike, at this and leveled up at 29.
Like, you got to give.
It's a long, long ramp
for a defenseman to skate on before you said the guy's done.
So I feel like Arbor, too.
I just 25 by the way.
25 already.
Oh my god.
Yeah, he'll change my philosophy now that.
When did you do 25 just recently?
30th of January.
Yeah, okay.
So 25 now.
Man, the runways.
It's got a year left.
He's got to start.
Oh, forget.
When he made the Canadians,
he was like 21 and a half.
He was on a range out of Hamilton, right?
He was, he was never drafted.
Yeah, that team, that team won that,
that Hamilton Bulldogs team won the cup.
And I believe the owner of the team was Michael Ann Lauer.
And the Canadians were in training cap.
But Michael Ann Lauer said,
Hey, let's give this kid a shot.
Let's give him a try out.
And right place at the right time.
He's got to figure it out soon.
And the answer to the question the fellow said,
you know, was it a mental makeup?
I feel like, especially recently,
you'll have Arbor having like,
you're watching him specifically and going,
he's having a really good game.
And they don't make one mistake.
And then the whole game's gone.
So the answer to the question is,
when someone's sailing along really nicely,
but then has a hiccup.
And then they react to that hiccup by declining a lot.
That's usually mental makeup.
That's usually an insecurity about your own game.
And I know hockey team,
there are players that have a longer leash than others.
And if, and he makes that mistake,
he doesn't have much of a leash.
So he reacts like he has no leash.
Lane Hudson can have a game where he's just awful
and go minus four.
And when he's minus three,
like they're putting him out back out there right away
because they know that he's got the ability
to turn around and he's great.
And they'll live with his mistakes.
Arbor doesn't have much of a leash if any.
That's just the way it is.
I have a question for you.
Yeah.
You mentioned Pickford angstrom.
And we really like Ryan Bakker's.
Like, do you think that
Ryan Bakker could be traded?
And if he could be traded, what would be his value?
I don't think he's an untouchable.
I don't either.
I
and what would his value be as if he were
13th 15 17th because he's not like top five value anymore.
Yeah.
What about Nenech?
They would only trade him.
I think if they got a player that was
that's still many years left on his contract
that had many good years ahead of him, right?
So almost like a dobson versus Ryan Bakker kind of trade.
Maybe even younger than that.
Like, I don't think like they would they would trade.
Dobson was 25.
Yeah.
Well, I could be I guess.
Yeah, I guess so.
I guess so.
That's 21, 20, 20, 20.
Yeah, I guess so.
I guess so.
I think anybody that you feel like the window is wide open for eight years
like Dobson, you make that deal.
I don't think they're looking to trade Ryan Bakker by the way.
I just think that you're
looking to.
No, I don't think they're looking to.
I just think a year and a half ago,
he was in touchable and a year and a half later, he's not.
Like, I think a year and a half ago, if you brought up his name,
it was like, yeah, don't go there.
He's in touchable.
I think a year and a half later, it's like, yeah, okay,
well, we're not looking to move him.
But, you know, what do you got?
You know, maybe that's where they are.
They're in the what do you like?
If you like, by the way, I spoke, I spoke with Denny Goats here
earlier this morning.
His son placed for the Syracuse Crunch.
They played the rocket last night at Plas Bell.
Syracuse want to nothing, by the way.
He thought Ryan Bakker last night was excellent.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, he thought he was excellent.
So it's very encouraging here.
Yeah, it's very encouraging here.
Yeah, good to hear.
Why don't we take two more questions?
Fantastic discussion tonight with Tony and Brian Wilde.
Here's my question.
If he stands pat tomorrow and makes no moves,
how comfortable are you with the team as is?
And how far do you think they can go in the playoffs?
You remember this coming from Richard McCatum?
Remember, Brian last year,
he used it and make a move.
A lot of people wanted him to make a trade for Dylan Cousins.
Some even suggested that the Canadians trade Michael H for Dylan Cousins.
By the way,
I wasn't in on trading Michael H for Dylan Cousins.
I remember, I think the name that I was interested in a year ago
is a player that didn't end up moving.
I thought they should have made a push for Ryan Denato.
He didn't end up getting traded.
But I said, I said,
can't use made a decision.
He didn't want to make a deal.
If they missed the playoffs, it's on him, right?
Even though it's a rebuild.
They made the playoffs in the final game of the regular season.
And if Carolina would have played all their players,
they probably wouldn't have.
So, you know what?
This year is different than a year ago.
Last year, everyone wanted to make the playoffs.
Remember, Suzuki talked with Kent Hughes and said,
can't trust the group, man, don't trade anybody.
And Kent basically said, Nick,
show me what you can do and show me why I shouldn't trade any of the players.
And Nick went out and showed them.
This year, we can talk about rebuild all we want.
I think if the Canadians don't make the playoffs, I think there's going to be a,
there's, I think the fan base can be very disappointed.
Because if they made the playoffs last year,
and this team in the off season added Bulldoch and Dopson,
and going into the season had a demi-dough for a full season,
and then added a deno and texia during the season.
And everyone in the core got one year old or in better.
And so did the staff.
I think if they don't make the playoffs this year,
I think it's going to be a very disappointed fan base.
Oh, yeah, for sure, the whole organization will be,
but they're in really good shape to make it for sure.
Like, I mean, the math is very much in their favor here.
It's tight, Brian.
That's not that tight.
It's not that tight.
People look at points when they should look at NHL games over 500.
It's not that tight with only 20 left.
You've got teams that are outside of the playoffs looking in right now
to make the playoffs.
If the Canadians only go 500, they need to go like
15 and 6, 14 and 7.
Canadians are 15 games over, right?
Brian, the Canadians are three points ahead of Columbus.
No, I don't know any points.
I don't want to talk points.
Points are stupid.
Okay.
Canadians are 15 games over NHL 500, right?
They're at 625.
The Bruins lost tonight against Nashville,
or at least last time I checked, they were down 5-1.
Yes.
Columbus is 11 over, and they are out, right?
You know what?
I take that back.
I take that back.
Columbus is playing 590.
Okay.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
So Columbus 11 over changes everything.
I thought everybody was in the zone.
Columbus 11, Columbus is.
Columbus is, I believe.
Yeah.
And I could make a charge here.
They've won four or five straight games.
Brian, they're 13, two and one under Rick bonus.
Wow.
Okay.
All right.
I take that back.
It's a little tighter than I thought.
There's a thought.
Everybody was in the Washington range.
They beat the Panthers tonight.
Four, two, they're 13, two and one.
Okay.
That's going to get interesting.
Look at that.
Now, do I think that all of those teams,
the first three teams are ahead of everybody in the Pacific.
Now, do I think the Canadians are better than Boston?
And if Columbus is going to pass one of those teams,
I do, the Bruins have more regulation wins than the Canadians.
Yeah.
Columbus being in that realm now,
instead of the Washington capital,
six games over NHL 500 does change things, for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Can you imagine not making the playoffs
with 104 points, Tony?
They made it with 91 last year.
They made it with 91.
And they're on pace for 104 right now
and they're in a playoff fight.
That's insane.
What happened out west?
Did they forgot how to play hockey?
Yeah, it really isn't sane.
Part of the Bruins have one more regulation
win than the Canadians, all right?
They got 32.
Where Columbus is behind the eight ball?
They got four less regulation wins than the Canadians.
That's where they're behind the record.
I think I saw the box.
It must have been not some significant entry just tonight
or the other night.
I think I read that.
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I think there was an injury tonight.
Well, I'm not telling you to check it out now,
but I believe there was an injury tonight
on the Bruins team that they were concerned about.
Didn't see it, but what will bring it up?
And Shane Gomo, if you have a chance,
if you see something, let me know.
Yeah, you see something.
We can do another question if we find something.
I believe that they had something happen tonight
in that game against Nashville.
All right, okay.
Anything?
It was speculation.
There's a player who was injured with the Providence Bruins.
No, I don't see anything, but I mean,
we're doing the show right now.
It could have just been an anxious fan during the game.
Maybe it was sweetest.
All right, let's do this.
Cadains have a couple of games on hand on Detroit.
A couple of people bring it up.
Yeah, you still have to go out and win those games, right?
Still got to go out and win those games.
It feels like Buffalo's pulling away, doesn't it?
Or do you know what?
It feels like Buffalo is really, I don't know when the
brisabers are going to lose again.
Yeah.
I mean, they look like they're.
They have to be the best team in hockey in the last 60 games.
They are, they're a well-oiled machine.
They've fired the GM.
And since then, they have to be.
Since they, that firing,
if you take everybody's record for that moment,
they have to be number one in the league, do they not?
Or two,
find Colorado?
Oh, my God, it's done.
What's done?
Stanley and Shen both to Buffalo,
per Frank's survival.
No, you are kidding me.
Both of them.
Fuck me.
Hey, you can do anything you want on a podcast,
take on me.
Wow.
69 to fuck me.
Anything you want.
Well, that's usually the way it goes.
That was a joke, by the way.
Yeah.
They're completing a deal.
The jets are completing a deal to send both Logan Stanley and Luke Shen
to the Saiders in a one-package deal,
pending a trade call.
Oh, my God.
Wow.
Wow.
You know what you should do now is go get their seventh and eighth rank D
and put them on the hands blue line.
Part of me is happy and part of me is upset.
Ask me why.
Uh, you wanted Shen.
Now two months ago, I put money on the sabres to win the cup.
That's a good news.
The bad news.
You want to put Shen from the 80s.
I only put 20 bucks.
Ah, yeah.
Okay.
That's what I got them at.
Uh, 40 to one.
51 to one.
50 to one.
Here's the question for you, though, like, uh,
if they just got those two guys,
who's sitting on their blue line?
Now Shen.
Well, they didn't get them to sit them.
Yeah, it could be a number seven.
You said, he's a veteran in the final year of his career.
So hold on a second.
Think about this.
Samuel says playing with Dalin.
Right.
All right, our, uh,
Bowen, uh, Byron will play with, um,
will play with, uh, let's say Stanley.
Mm-hmm.
And, um, power.
Kessel, ring and Shen.
Hold on a second.
Oh, yeah, I haven't been on power yet.
I haven't said on power.
No.
Okay.
So, oh, okay, I'm a little deep.
So hold on a second.
I left D.
You have Samuelson.
You have Byron.
And you have Owen Power.
All right, D on right D.
You're going to have Dalin.
Yeah.
You'll have Logan Stanley that you'll probably move over to the right.
Yeah.
And you'll have Luke Shen who'll probably play ahead of Kessel Ring.
And Kessel Ring will be your seven.
Yeah, Kessel Ring be a 10.
Yeah.
That's yeah.
Kessel Ring will be your seven.
Crazy.
Yeah.
That's that's I believe.
Are you sure though that didn't add up to eight?
So once again, we're going to do this again now.
We're right it down.
You got to write it down.
There's no way you can remember eight names.
You're going to write it down.
The memory bank stops at five.
Okay.
And then you got to search.
But this is crazy depths on the blue line.
It's crazy depth.
Samuelson.
Yeah.
What Dalin?
Yeah.
Left-handed Bowen Byron.
Yeah.
Okay.
We'll put a question mark for the right D in the second pairing.
Let's go.
Oh, and power.
Yeah.
Third pair.
Hey, you on power.
Oh, hey, look at this.
Okay.
And there's Kessel Ring.
Yeah.
Okay.
And so.
Mexican grads in popcorn.
Yeah.
And so you put Stanley.
And then you put Shen.
Yeah.
And Shen and Kessel Ring can probably rotate.
But Shen will be the guy who can play off time.
And you know what?
Now we don't know, though, is they're probably trading away
a D to get one of those guys.
So we'll have to say wait and see what the return is.
And they're, you know, we'll, you know, we'll have a better idea.
But you know what?
One of the things that they want to do is they don't want to trade away.
Any of their players in their locker room to add
because they don't want to affect the chemistry on their team.
Wow, it's Buffalo Lodinate.
Buffalo's loading up.
Oh my god.
Are they loading up?
And are they gigantic?
I wouldn't want to play the sabers in the playoffs.
Well, that's kind of who the Canadians are lined up for.
The two three, right?
I'm going to, I mentioned this.
I think the Canadians could beat the sabers in the playoffs.
Do I think they would?
No, do I think they can?
Yes, here's the problem.
If they beat them, I think Buffalo is going to pummel them.
And I don't think they're going to have much left for the second round.
That's the problem.
If the two, three matchup is Buffalo Montreal, would it be
advantageous to be the four and get on the other side probably,
Carolina?
That's a, that's a better profile for the Canadians,
Carolina than Buffalo.
Yes, you know it.
This is, um, you know it is.
Yeah, this is unbelievable.
Though the sabers, the way this is incredible.
What a cool.
They got Stanley and Shen.
Yeah.
I think the better profile is the wild card spot facing Carolina.
If they win their division, which I presume they will.
Yeah.
Blue jacket profile.
They play very, they play good hockey in Carolina.
They, the last time in, they were, they got real well.
When they played Buffalo Canadians a lot recently,
they won that last game, but they, they were not the better team that game.
And the previous two, they really got outplayed.
So that, that, that's going to be pretty, pretty challenging matchup.
I would, if I were a betting man,
I, I think they'd have a better chance against Carolina in the crossover.
You're probably right.
LeBron says that the, um,
Blue jackets are pushing hard for Connor Garland.
I wonder if you're Kent Hughes and you're, and you're seeing the,
the guys that are now challenging.
I didn't realize the Blue jackets were on that type of eater.
And now they're pushing for good players to see if they can make the playoffs here.
And they were close last year.
They lost on the last night of the season.
Second last night.
And if they're pushing hard this year,
playing as well as they are.
And then Buffalo's loading up.
You know, maybe the pressure is starting to get on Kent Hughes at 1141.
As he heads to bed before the trading deadline that if he stands bad, he might be,
you know, standing to pat.
Do you feel it?
Yeah, I feel it.
This moment, listen, listen, there's pressure now.
Like the, the sabers are loading up.
I mean, for sure there's pressure.
There's no doubt about it.
All right, I almost don't want to go to bed tonight.
But I think I'm going to have to because there's a big day ahead of us tomorrow.
Why don't we get to one more question?
Okay.
Why do we think Bulldog is struggling this year compared to last?
Sophomore jinx happens all the time.
I think they're trying to, new team, new city.
Yeah, and I think they're trying to make them a more complete hockey player.
I think so too.
So different system, right?
Different system, yeah.
And in the long run as a result, he'll be a better player.
Sometimes in your rookie year, also, you kind of, you fly under the radar a little bit.
Yeah, but think of what, but, you know, think of what people are asking, right?
That, you know, new team, new city, new teammates, new new system, new everything.
And you're a 22 year old in your second season national hockey league.
It's only normal if you have a hiccup.
It's only normal.
Right.
I'm not concerned.
And opportunity too.
I mean, he had more opportunity like his last half of the year, he's getting very little
opportunity, sits a little bit limited ice time, you know,
he's still going to finish with, you know,
the not 19 obviously, but, you know, if you're, if you're pushing 12th, 13 and you fall back a little
bit, that happens.
Yeah.
So Hendrick says, there's no way much rough passes through Buffalo in a play around Tony.
Are you smoking the same stuff as Kent, you said Marty Sanlewy.
Let's see their team way better than that is reality.
I understand the question.
And well, no, because I said, I said, do I think the Canadians are going to beat Buffalo?
No, but I think they can.
So he totally disagrees with me that they can't listen to me.
Oh, I see, I see, I get it.
We saw the Montreal Canadians beat the Washington capitals in 2010 when there was a
world of difference between the two teams.
And then the Canadians beat the Pittsburgh penguins in Round 2 as well.
In 2021, we saw the Montreal Canadians down.
Three games to once the Toronto Maple Leafs come back win in seven.
And the Canadians went to the Stanley Cup final.
So don't tell me what I'm smoking, what I'm not smoking, what there's with that.
Anyone could beat anyone in the playoffs.
I'm going to repeat what I just said for those who are still taking exception, okay?
If the Canadians play the sabres in the playoffs, who do I think will win?
Buffalo, would I be surprised or shocked if the Canadians beat them?
No, but if the Canadians do beat them, my concern is that the Canadians would have very little left
for Round 2, because I believe they would pay a huge physical price.
I think I'm talking logic here.
What am I saying?
What do people want me to say?
Without a doubt, the sabres in Florida guaranteed 100%.
Maybe.
Right.
I think the Canadians can beat the Buffalo sabres.
Buffalo sabres?
Would I bet on the beat the sabres?
No.
Yeah, I'm with you too.
No, we have to mention goal tending there too.
If there might be an Achilles heel to Buffalo, that's an inexperienced netminding duo that they have
in the playoffs.
Yeah, I don't know what I said for people who are there.
It's impossible that are going to be the sabres.
Yeah, no, I would say I'd have that at Buffalo, Montreal, I'd have at 6337 sabres.
I do not think they line up well against Buffalo.
I don't think they'd line up well against Buffalo either.
If they played Carolina, I would take the halves at 5347 against Carolina.
I think they line up very nicely against Carolina.
If they face Detroit, I would take 5248.
Canadians, who else could they face?
Tampa, if they didn't cross over, 6238 Tampa.
I don't have a problem with what you say.
Yeah, I don't have a problem with what you say.
I think matchups are really important.
Like last year, they didn't get a very good matchup.
Washington was a big, hungry, physical team that came in with a game plan.
We saw seven minutes into the game.
They had one idea beat the shit out of these guys.
And then they executed it.
Detroit won't do that.
Carolina won't do that.
Tampa won't do that.
But Buffalo will do that.
That D-Core?
You're small, it's 65 on that D-Core.
You're in the tiny guy.
So I do not like it at all.
They just don't have a forward,
handful man for the smaller Canadians.
They just don't match up.
It's as simple as that.
And hopefully, that's not the two, three.
It'd be better off if they were the one four in the crossover.
Yeah, um, Chris Johnson, uh,
of note for fans on late night NHL trades,
at least 23 man roster,
limit officially disappears at midnight.
Um,
which should allow a couple of pending deals to get
formally processed.
Only roster requirement of NHL teams from here
is to remain cap compliant.
Um,
is there anything else?
I hope you're going to move, Stony.
I hope they're movers, movers and shakers.
The leaves are movers and shakers tomorrow is going to be a blast.
And you've got to think,
you've got to think trade living is like,
we've lost how many in a row?
And I'm going to sit on my hands, right?
I hope you can't sleep tonight.
What were you, what were you more?
A Buffalo Sabers team with Perico,
or a Buffalo Sabers team with Stanley and Shen?
Oh, Perico,
Perico's a higher quality than those two.
Perico.
Yeah, they just improve their depth though, right?
Hey, don't get me wrong.
That was, that's a coup.
That's a coup.
Those are two that that five six,
like they're five sixes.
Most of the teams three, four, right?
I'll end the show tonight by asking you one more question.
Yeah.
Would you place a call for a goalie?
I'm free to use.
Man, you know what?
If you could get a goalie,
they're safe percentage is under 900,
both of them, just all it is.
They're not good in it, Tony.
They're not good in it.
You know, like I would love to tell you a lie,
but they're not.
Yacabdovich's game, the other night,
was a goal save above expected of minus 3.55.
It was his worst game of the year.
He led in 3.55 more than the algorithms designed on speed,
a shot location, a shot screen.
I saw that.
I saw that.
I saw that.
Terrible.
You're brutal number, Tony.
Brutal number.
And what a time to have your worst number of the year.
Sam can't win a game.
I think if it weren't expensive,
yes, good.
You know, I'd love to see.
You know, the concern I have from Moltengallen.
You want to see the Canadians go back and get Jake Allen again?
I do.
Sam and a hell of a year.
He looked at the USA.
Yeah, he is.
Yeah, he's been a hell of a goalie since they've got rhythm,
to be honest.
You're looking at the goal, save the above expected.
Yeah, it's a good goalie.
And he's been good.
The concern I have with Moltengallen is he's probably come back here.
He loved it here.
Is especially when he plays at home.
The second and first goal goes in on him.
I almost feel like I can almost feel from my house in Villa,
Sal, the pressure just get to him.
Like I'm nervous for him.
I see him nervous.
And I don't know if he is or isn't.
I have no idea.
But like when Shafer scored that first goal on him,
you know, last week,
like he seemed rattled after.
Like everything was going great up until that first one went in.
The second one was a 40 footer unscreened.
Yeah, it was a great shot to the top corner,
but you do have a glove and you should catch that.
You should catch that puck.
It wasn't like you didn't see it.
It went through nine bodies.
It was a shot from, you know,
yeah, on the face off circle.
And it should be saved.
I don't know why his glove hand has left him this year.
It should be saved.
He said, like we're not trying to be dicks here.
We just look at the numbers.
And we compare them to the averages around the league.
They are in the bottom third in every category,
the Canadians to goalings, bottom third.
You're probably not going to win series with bottom third goal tending.
And it is absolutely vital.
You've got the metrics of the Ottawa Senators
that are top five in the league.
And they're going to miss their playoffs
because their goalies have been horrendous.
They can't even get an eight four zero out of their two goals.
St. Louis can't get a save their metrics are not bad.
It matters.
And the Canadians are bottom third.
You mentioned earlier in the show that defensively,
you look at the numbers.
There's only eight teams
that the Canadians are better than.
And that is responsible for the goals saved above expected
that's making the defense look worse than it is.
That's what that whole stat is about.
And so there's an issue.
So the answer is I don't even want to preface it with
if it weren't expensive.
I would do it, Tony.
If it were expensive,
yeah, if you could get a quality goalie
who's shown himself to be strong
from playoff to playoff to playoff.
You know, not like what the oiders
didn't just in Jerry run an art in gold every five minutes.
That guy's a tap
depending on the night, right?
But if you got a guy that every single year he was pretty solid.
And I don't mean Bob Rosski
because he's not stopping the puck right now.
I mean, just a guy who's solid right now.
Go get him.
If it catches you your first,
it's not the fifth pick overall.
And Tony is 25th pick.
We know that Jacob Fowler is the goalie of the future
for the Montreal Canadians.
And we know that eventually,
there's going to have to be a decision
between Montenbo and Dovech.
Right.
And, you know, there are some
that in this city have said,
well, Montenbo could be a better backup
to Jacob Fowler because of his age.
And obviously, I think the heritage helps Brian.
Like you talked about it before.
The word you used was heritage.
Like that word now.
Jacob Dolby's the ceiling as a goalie
is higher than Montenbo's.
But not by much in my mind.
Like, you know how I feel about him.
I understand.
Yeah, I think I think I think
I think he does look nervous
in goal.
And I think he, you know,
I think there's a lot of the fan base
that is nervous watching him.
His ceiling is higher, Brian.
Yeah.
His ceiling is higher.
Yeah, because of the age.
I mean, Montenbo is obviously not getting better
in his career.
But I will say that Montenbo has been
around an 898 in 897,
peaking out about a 901 for three straight years.
So this is a real regression this year for him.
I believe he's at 865-ish.
That's a real regression.
Like that's a goal of game on a 30 shot game.
And that matters.
Like people don't think a goal of game matters, Tony.
It matters.
Because if it's
860, that means you're letting in four.
Four versus three means three is fine.
Because you probably got three yourself
and you sent the game to overtime,
where you may have picked up two points.
But if you're allowing four,
you're probably chasing the game all night.
By the way, you know, it's a great story
that no one's talking about.
Linus Olmark, after leaving the Ottawa Seniors.
Yeah.
He's 803 in his last 12 starts with a 903 save percentage.
Good for him.
Incredible, huh?
Incredible.
And it just shows
the difference in goal technique and make.
But see, that's the thing about it's voodoo, right?
Like you just think, okay, this guy sucks
and he's not going to be any good and you're not sure.
You know, like I,
there's rumors that they're trying to get your own bidding.
The Canadians are, right?
Yeah.
So like, where does that come from?
He's been terrible this year.
But the pedigree is he want to cop.
And he wasn't anxious during Canada
his performance.
And he was a plus on the goal saved above expected.
He was a plus 0.73 himself in that huge game.
Yeah.
And he wasn't, he wasn't 4.61 to steal it.
But he put in a nice performance himself
before ultimately losing.
Ryan Lawton has the chances of
anything getting dealt at 60 40.
Yeah.
Well, they got to like the deal.
They got to like the deal.
You know, he's a competitor.
I don't know if I'm a Bennington fan necessarily,
but he's a competitor.
Bob Rowski is proving himself as well.
Like I think they should try to get a goalie.
I really do.
And I don't know if they will.
But
Gordon actually told Eric Engels
that they were comfortable with their goalies last week.
Right?
Yeah.
In his article or two.
And I and I tend to believe in mind you,
what do you want him to say, right?
We're not.
But I tend to believe him.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I tend to but at the same time for it.
That's always a moment where you have to actually hear the question
presented because then you learn
whether that I offered it up.
Yes.
You go to them.
And that's a big big difference in the
at the same time in the last couple of times that Gordon and
Hughes have made themselves available to the media.
They have not talked about adding a
defenseman.
They've talked about trying to add to their top six.
Yeah.
And you know,
I've thought that they would add to their D.
But when I see all the D that have been
traded in the last week.
Connor Murphy.
McKenzie Wieger.
Stanley Shen Meyers.
No, I get it.
Meyers went to, you know, he's a Texas boy and he went back to Texas.
And he went where he wanted to go.
And there are probably others that I haven't even mentioned here.
I should probably just bring up a trade tracker to see
just in case I'm missing somebody here.
I don't think you are.
I actually think you got it.
Might have been very small.
Well, yeah, there's there's small names that move between San Jose and Vancouver,
Jetwoo for Jack Thompson.
Jeff Petrie is another one.
Jeff Petrie got dealt from the Florida Panthers to the Minnesota Wild.
Oli Mata was part of that deal with with Utah.
Go on a Calgary in return for McKenzie Wieger.
Nick Blankenberg went from Nashville to Colorado.
Right.
There's some, there's, you know, Brett Kulak and Samuel Gerard were traded last week,
obviously.
Well, I think a look at all the D that have been traded.
Like starting to wonder if the Canadians are actually in
on a D.
That's a lot, huh?
Like, it's a lot.
The good ones are starting to go, man.
Yeah.
I mean, who's left?
Braco, it doesn't want to come here.
It wants to stay all west.
We're hearing if he either stays of St. Louis blue
or he goes out west somewhere in California.
Who's left?
Who's the line in?
Yeah.
Justin Falk.
That's right.
No, we looked at the list earlier tonight.
And those guys are left.
And I think that the Maple Leafs are going to move too.
I really think that the guy is the guy that everyone's talking about.
But I mean, they just acquired him.
It doesn't look like, but you know what?
I like your brand new Carlow suggestion.
Yeah.
I think the Leafs are, I think,
trade of being right now tonight after his 62 loss
against a team that's given up themselves.
The Rangers.
I think that's a moment where, okay,
that's six in a row coming out of the break we are done.
Like,
you could even Riley be available?
Morgan Riley is available.
Good evening.
Yeah, Morgan Riley is available.
What a cool that would be.
They're ready to move on from Morgan Riley.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
You know what?
When we started this show at 10 a 10 p.m. Eastern.
Yeah.
There's no way I thought it was going to finish at midnight.
That way it's fun.
I hope you did.
Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Yeah, all right.
Okay, very good stuff was moving during.
That's always fun too, right?
We'll see you tomorrow at at sick media.
Absolutely.
See that.
I think I think we're eating lasagna tomorrow, by the way.
No, no, no, no, I thought it was the orange Julia stuff.
Oh, we're going to have that too.
The yellow said it was the orange Julia.
Yeah, we're going to have that too.
We're going to have that too.
I'm going to pick out.
Yeah, we're going to have the cast crew from the orange Julia
and we're likely going to have a lasagna from Pettis Julia South.
So we're going to be well taken care of tomorrow.
Yeah, how do I want for what?
I don't know.
I was going to bring in my laptop with it.
It'll be it'll be less than two hours than the worst tonight.
But let me ask you this.
What deserves you?
I'm at a order because I know you're a big guy.
You're a big dessert guy.
You like those cheesecake?
So you want the zeppelies with the ricotta?
Can Oli Zeppelies?
I like those can Oli Zeppelies too.
Yeah, you know what I like those?
Those lobster tails as well, they with the
yeah, yeah, yeah, that's yeah, with the with the way of cream.
That's pretty good.
Yeah, that's
so good.
Brian, you were good tonight.
You're going to be well when I come in.
Well, that's the plan.
Thanks for doing this man.
Very generous for your time.
I don't know what to tell you.
Thanks for asking me.
Thanks for asking me.
All right, there you have it.
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Just time flies when you're having fun.
I want to thank all of you for sticking around
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I mean, the numbers were absolutely fantastic.
You're a great crowd.
This is a sick army.
Thanks for doing it.
I hope we are your Montreal Canadians podcast of choice.
And so thank you very much for that.
Leave us a five star review on Apple.
It's our way of feeling the love.
Hit the like button if you can.
There's also a high button at the bottom of your screen.
If you can hit that as well.
That's pretty cool for us as well.
So thank you again.
Have a great night.
Any shall trade deadline tomorrow.
3 p.m.
I'll be back.
Demi Mate, I'll say.
Ezal Demi Mate.
This is a podcast.
So that may be Shane YouTube.
And we are going live until about 5.30 p.m.
Eastern time with trade talk.
We'll break it all down.
And I'll be back tomorrow night after the Canadians and the NIM ducks as well.
My night's probably going to finish at around 1.30 in the morning.
But you know what?
This is fun.
Have a good night.
I'll try and get some sleep.
Ciao for now.
And that's a wrap.
Hope you don't miss us too much until next time.
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