The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 120 — AI President? 42-Year-Old Soldiers? Pagan Lord of the Rings?

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All right. Welcome to Thursday. It's the, obviously, a Thursday edition of Thought Crime.

And we have a new member of the thought crime crew, making his first appearance on the Thursday thought crime because Tyler forgot to tell us he wasn't going to be here.

I actually, I like the look. I like the vibe. We might have gotten an upgrade here. I'm just saying, I mean, don't tell Tyler. I said that.

We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see.

That's spacey when Jack's producers. So welcome, Russ. Welcome to the set. Everybody say hello.

Jack, where the heck are you right now?

I am in the heart of freedom, the lone star state Dallas, Texas for CPAC. And so as is tradition, we are now holding my yearly thought crime from CPAC.

So what do you think of Texas, Jack? What's your, like, give me your unvarnished take on Texas.

You're a new England guy. It's really big.

It's, you know, it's just one of those things where like everything's bigger in Texas. And as an East Coast guy, I suppose it's all out West in general on used to states being like a certain kind of size that you can drive for a couple hours and still, you know, and go to multiple states.

You'll see multiple cities. There's lots to going on. Whereas Texas, it's like you could drive for three hours in any direction.

And there's still Texas. There's more of Texas yet to come.

And so it's, it's just this, it's just this totally kind of out of, you know, out of body experience when I'm here. But what's amazing is that when you go around Texas, it's really played this game of like trying to see who's conservative because it's pretty much just like everybody's conservative.

And it's so cool to see that because again, coming from the East Coast, you always sort of have to feel out where people are. Whereas in Texas, it's actually like, oh, wait, someone's a liberal. That's like the one out of 10.

If you have ever driven the 20 from East Texas to El Paso, it literally feels like you're, it's never ending. It is the longest drive. And then especially when you get to like West Texas, it just, it's just, it's not vegetation.

Like, there's just kind of nothing. Well, there's like oil rings. And then you run into El Paso. And I guess it's okay. It's all right. You tap this kind of ball.

There's, there's no vegetation, but what there is is buckets. It was Russ's first thing he was going to say on the show. And, you know, Jack, he's, oh, no, no, I drove to Austin for one of my birthdays just all the way through.

From Phoenix, from Phoenix. And it was, it was a long drive. It's a long drive. Once you hit eight hours, you're like, okay, I need to get out of this car now, please.

All right. Well, here we are, Jack, you want to take us on our first, our first topic here? Or do you have more to add?

Well, I can, but I should also shout out that even though this is the first time that producer Russ has been on the show, it is not the first time he was mentioned on the show because he was mentioned a couple of weeks ago when we got to put out the news that big Russ just got engaged.

Oh, that's right. That was really good. Let's go. Let's go. How's that going?

And by the way, to an American. It's great.

Yeah. So, so there is a lot of, you know, listen, there's a lot of tension between the sexes right now. This is a big, it's a big topic of discussion, especially amongst the kids.

And so you kind of like the outlier right now, actually doing the thing, getting married, young guy, setting off on the American dream.

I don't know, young. I'm sorry. I don't feel young. You're pretty young.

All right. We're going to get into it. Blake, do you want to take us away on the first?

Yeah. All right. We've got president. Yes. So we were strongly, we were planning something else. And then this clip just shot across the bow. This is apparently a recent Joe Rogan episode.

And he says he is prepared. He is ready to embrace the future, which is seeding the executive branch to an AI robot. Let's play it.

Clip number one, not on either buddy.

But I want side.

But I think the Democrats are ever going to get someone like me because I'm not with either or I'm not with either or I'm with whoever makes sense and no one makes sense.

Until AI comes along.

Well, I think they have a really good job, all of us.

President Proplexity is going to run this country fairly and balanced.

I'm willing to try it at this point.

I'm dead serious, man. As long as it doesn't like do something to harm people, as long as like that's it's goals just to manage society.

It's a big if that you got there. But yes, if we can get that.

But what you just said.

I think is really well, this.

Yeah, I president.

That's crazy.

Yeah, that's nuts.

By the way, it's like which AI are you talking about?

You talk about Claude. You talking about Grock.

You talking about what are the other Gemini?

And that's not even getting the starts about who's going to prompt the AI.

Yeah.

Yeah, but like also, you know, okay, for example, we talk about President Trump.

Listen, the war can't get out of it soon enough.

No doubt.

But part of his ability as president is to be unpredictable.

If you could just like input a if your enemy and you're a Ron and you could just be like,

is Trump going to drop a bomb on me today?

Like and the AI would give you a predictable output.

That's not a real good way to wage a war.

The human element, the unpredictability, you would just take that off the table completely.

But like, I understand his underlying frustration because a lot of people that were Trump voters

are feeling frustrated by the fact that we're going to war.

Rogan is express frustration with Minneapolis and the deportation.

So he's, I feel like this is more of a play for him to sort of express his independence more than anything.

Well, what if we talk about, we just imagine the AI president.

But in theory, you could make an AI version of a specific president.

So like, well, obviously there's a famous, yes, there's a famous example.

And we'll actually let's do that clip just to show us what we're getting into.

So for those who aren't aware, Glenn Beck over at the Blaze has created an AI iteration of our first president

that he asked questions to.

Is Glenn at CPAC Jack?

Have you seen him?

I'm just curious.

He's the crowd there.

He's curious the crowd there, the makeup of the attendees.

Yeah, well, we'll show the clip of AI George Washington.

Yeah, George Washington.

But real quick, if you want to add on that, you know, I know there's this whole narrative about like mega division and the movement is divided.

I'm just not really seeing that here.

It's in, and you know, it's online.

I live online and we get the emails in, but as terms of the attendees who came here, just not seeing it.

What's the average age?

That would be another question.

Average age is older, you know, what's interesting is there's obviously baby boomers are, you know, the, you know, the largest cohort.

But then there's a bunch of young Republicans too, a bunch of turning point kids.

So they, you know, they, it's a narrower band.

I'd say maybe it's only 10% in that, in that bucket, but that's skews the average down.

Yeah, yeah, I think, I think the magnitude of it is like, to the extent that it's real.

And I actually do believe that it's like somewhat real.

I think it's skews younger.

I think the older mega crowd is the one that's probably more predictably like Ra Ra.

Yeah, they're like, they've got more patients for things like the war.

They've got more patients for, you know, gas prices going up a little bit.

I think if you're younger, you don't have as much money.

You're worried about your jobs.

You're worried about not only an AI president, you're worried about AI just taking your job, right?

So I think, you know, anyways, that we should play the George Washington.

We should say real quick on that, you know, seeing as we're, we're recording this Thursday, we're live Thursday.

But if you're listening to this on the podcast, list drops on Saturday, who knows we may have boots on the ground already.

Yeah, well, we'll see. But anyway, we'll details details.

Details, details. Anyway, let's play clip number two.

George, we are trying to not fight foreign wars and not be involved in and the world's policeman.

There are times that we have to demonstrate strength in order to prevent conflict.

But I, I don't know where the foreign entanglement begins and where it ends.

When I was president, I did not crave power.

I didn't strut in my uniform dreaming of conquest.

In fact, I begged several times to not be the general and not be the president.

I didn't want it.

But I understood my responsibility.

And I also understood that some things that are easy to forget when you're staring down bayonets.

Peace is not the default.

It has to be guarded deliberately with foresight and strength.

My generation lived through a fragile independence.

Our new republic was surrounded, literally and figuratively, by instability.

Most of the founders believed that we would not survive to 1820.

We thought it was an interesting experiment.

European powers were sniffing the opportunities.

States were threatening to splinter. Loyalists were lurking.

None of this was hypothetical.

It was the daily background noise of early America.

Okay, man. That was like three times longer than I knew.

But I love how he says, I didn't go strutting around in my uniform.

The actual George Washington totally went strutting around in a uniform.

He would not be in a t-shirt like that.

He had strut equity.

This might be a hot take.

I don't know.

I actually like the use of AI for historical purposes like that.

If you have George Washington just telling stories like that.

And he's now ready to get himself, you know, obviously an AI recreation.

But that's definitely not to talk about current politics.

But if he's just talking about how things were at the time, you know,

I don't really see any different than having someone dress up as an actor and playing George Washington.

I think it's kind of cool.

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This is actually going to explain that I am absolutely a homeschooler.

But if anybody has heard of adventures in Odyssey,

one of the things they used to do is they had like this coffee shop.

And there were like AI holograms of different people from history that you could talk to.

And so that's just the first thing that comes to mind when Jack was talking about.

So you're saying Glenn Glenn back just ripped off that idea.

100% the radio drama adventures in Odyssey was ripped off.

Yes.

For sure.

Okay, so I love I love Jack.

I love your glass half full of this all like I really do.

And and I but I just I don't know like I just wonder like I think Glenn probably made this for kids.

But I think kids are going to find this well cringe or like teenagers college kids.

You think like I don't know what's interesting.

So the thing about it is yeah, we're looking at these ancient Presidents who okay, whatever.

This is a historical recreation.

But think about this fact.

If we're talking about AI Presidents Donald Trump is probably the single most recorded person in history.

In human history.

And like they if they you are able to feed every single tweet every single press conference every single video of President Trump ever.

You could probably create a more reliable fact similarly of him than any other person using an AI model.

And you're not and you're not.

He's not as Trump as he once was.

I'm going to say is I am pretty sure there is a non zero portion of the base.

Probably a non negligible portion of the base that could be convinced to vote for AI Donald Trump to be a Republican.

If you had to take one year of Trump.

And you were going to base an AI president off of one year.

You had to like the accomplishments, the tone, the tenor, the energy.

One year of President Trump, what would it be?

80s Trump.

80s Trump.

I went like 1980 like Trump.

I was thinking like 2016, 17, 18, 19, the cold.

You know, I mean, I mean, look, 2015, 2016 Trump will ultimately politically speaking always be my favorite Trump.

Trump when he's up there on stage when he's just ripping everybody in the Republican primary from rampal to jet bush to Ted Cruz who it doesn't care.

Equal opportunities just tearing everybody a new one.

And he's just coming on the stage.

And it was amazing.

It was the thing of beauty.

If you were there, you were there.

I mean, you had to be there.

And that was always my favorite Trump.

Trump at the RNC 2016 in Ohio.

I think it was August 2016 that that was still my favorite speech.

It was a press age to the American carnage inaugural, inaugural speech that we got from Trump.

But he's just going through talking about all the crime, the murder, so many things that are wrong in the country.

I loved it.

Love every second.

Yeah, but he didn't actually govern that year.

That's the only thing.

But you're talking about just like a pure distilled, distilled energy standpoint.

Yes.

Yeah.

2016 energy will always be sort of that pure mega energy.

There's that clip of Trump where he's talking about how what he wants in a president.

And I think it's like probably 80s, 90s.

That's the Trump.

Like having like listen to that clip a couple times.

Like that's the Trump that I would want because that's very in the same vein as like George Washington.

It's very in the vein.

Same vein is like a reluctant leader that actually just wants to do the best.

Like the most good.

In my opinion.

Who would also let us know via a rumble rant especially if who you would prefer to have as an AI president.

If can be any president.

I don't think that.

Yeah, I don't think that's what Rogan and Dave Smith were saying though.

I think what they were saying was they were just imagining an AI.

They were imagining anything's better than the crap we had.

No, that would be a disaster.

That was their that was their point.

I mean, we did go through four years of Biden being.

Biden.

Yeah.

So we might have.

We might auto man.

We had an AI president.

Yeah.

Except for the fact that it was like the radical progressive.

Apparachics that were actually.

No, but if I are let me let me steal man.

Let me try to steal man.

I think what Rogan was trying to say there.

Is that which I don't agree with, but I think I get what he's trying to say.

He's trying to say that he felt like.

Like the president isn't even living up to his promises.

And is saying that I want an AI president in the sense that.

You put two platforms on the ballot together, you know, red platform and blue platform.

And if red wins, then it just governs based on exactly what it said at the time.

So the AI can't deviate from that.

And so I guess the pushback on that would be if that is indeed what he was saying that.

Well, President Trump always said mass deportation.

So if your issue is deportations in theapolis or whatever, well, he specifically said that on the campaign trail.

That he had every, every single chance that he got.

So I don't know where this idea that Trump isn't for mass deportations came from or that he shouldn't be for it.

Because he said that over and over.

Yeah, but you know what's interesting about Rogan.

So Rogan, you know, he recently came after Erica, which I obviously didn't appreciate.

But then like he was doing this stuff where he was.

I think he basically said he didn't think BB Netanyahu was alive.

He fell for the, he fell for the like AI angle and stuff like that.

I'm starting to have five fingers.

I'm starting to get convinced that he's just kind of like, you know, he's taking the algorithm.

Like whatever's rising to the top of the algorithm and kind of like.

So my point there is is that when, you know, obviously the media turned on mass deportations with Minneapolis, right?

It was the Renee good and the Alex Freddie.

And it kind of just like instantly as soon as the media narrative, like we lost the media narrative

because of those two killings, it was like, we lost Rogan on, on, on that.

I like this take from Sandra in the chat.

You could argue that Elon Musk being president and making data driven decisions would be the same as an AI president.

I actually kind of agree.

But for the unsurprising, slightly different reason, which is you've seen how Elon will occasionally just do something extremely chaotic or erratic.

Like when he renamed his account Kekeus Maximus.

Yes.

Or, or similar things like that sort of put spamming all the PEPAs everywhere, the obsession with Dogecoin.

And that's totally an AI thing to do.

Like, oh, something just went a little weird.

And now the AI is suddenly obsessed with Kekeus Maximus.

I don't know. I don't know if there's even like an, like I, you know, they say this about California.

So when I was living in California, they would always say it's an ungovernable state.

Which it is.

So if California is in a governor, governorable state, then how much more so is America?

Because it's bigger.

It's really hard to, to, to be a successful president, to be like, there's so many competing factions, so many competing ideas, so many like media trends and news stories.

And I mean, I don't know.

Maybe AI would be better at it.

Be more efficient of taking in all the inputs.

In truth, the biggest problem with AI is a lot of the AIs are innately woke.

I mean, this is true.

If you run the numbers on an AI, for example, and say, here's a set of 5,000 resumes, rank them in the order they should be hired.

It systematically, for example, just does racial discrimination without being told to.

Yeah.

In the way that you would expect to deliver.

But that's not all AIs, right?

Not all AIs are critical.

Not all AIs are the same.

My understanding is basically all of them do show that bias.

I think Groc has the least.

And it's possibly just because Elon made them insert hard in there.

Yeah, don't do racism against white people.

Yeah, but apparently Groc is the most behind, too.

Yeah, Groc is not as advanced as some of them in some ways.

But it is the, I would say, least, least lived out.

Yeah, for sure.

It's the least.

Clawed is the most lived out, right?

Yeah, Clawed is very live.

I've heard, like, horror stories about the people that run that.

Oh, for sure.

For sure.

I mean, they're effective altruist, man.

Jack, do you, do you have a read on which AIs are, like besides Groc, are there any, like, decent AIs out there that are not woke?

You know, it's, it's really hard to say.

I mean, I, I'll say that I use Groc for, you know, from doing, like, just light research or something like that.

But then images, um, chat TBT is just so much better at that.

There's no question that it's, it, you can generate, you can get things, you can make things, you can alter images.

Chat TBT, it's, it's very, very fast.

I have a mess around with Clawed as much.

Um, I'm just not as familiar with it.

But those, those are the two that I, uh, that I, that I rock with is, is a rock with rock.

What can I, that should be the slogan, right?

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Grock definitely is the most absurd in terms of indulging the weird hypotheticals that I give it.

So like, if I went to Claude and was like, what would happen in Iran if President Trump just like deployed maybe like a bunch of 80s rock stars to overwhelm them with the power of rock and roll to win the war?

Like, Claude would be like, I don't think that's a reasonable situation and that would be dumb.

But like, Grock would totally run with it and like come up with a convoluted scenario where like the power of rock music would melt the eye at all his face off.

And it'd be like rock the Casbah.

All right.

Yeah.

We did that to the Soviet Union though.

Yeah, we did.

Metallica played in Moscow and Ozzy went over and there's there's a whole bunch of bands that went over.

It was like the rock in Moscow.

Those videos are incredible.

Man, what a what a different country, by the way, what a different like Western civilization.

What if the best AI president was a Chinese AI?

Oh, what are you saying?

I want a Japanese credit.

Hold on.

Wait, because I want hold on.

Hold on.

I want a president who's like the Japanese version of an American president.

You know what I mean?

It's like American politicians in Japanese anime.

They're just like Donald Trump is a giant and he's got like superpowers and stuff.

What if we had, okay, a Chinese AI that is told to generate a Japanese AI's idea of an American AI president?

It's too meta.

That's probably the most likely.

That might be that might give us the best president though.

What if we took the best features of every single American president and put them into an amalgamation of one AI?

Wait, I've got an idea.

I'm just going to go to Grog and I'm going to ask it.

What would an AI president be like if it took the best aspects of each president?

All right.

I'm going to get on that.

I'll be right back.

47 presidents.

Yeah.

It's really like 40.

Yeah, so let's get on.

It's actually different presidents that we had.

Because Teddy repeated.

We have had 45 total presidents.

Yeah.

All right.

45 presidents, 47 presidents, C's.

Correct.

Yes.

Trump 1.0.

Trump 2.0.

Right.

I would take the first 100 days of Trump 1.0 and just like straight into my veins.

Again and again and again.

When Steve Adam was there.

Shock and not.

No, I'm talking about 2.0.

The first 100 days of Trump 2.0.

Oh.

Yeah.

First 100 days of Trump 1.0 was.

Was.

Frinetic, but.

First 100 days of Trump 1.0.

I think it was.

That was an interesting question.

That's an interesting question Jack.

The first 100 days of Trump 1.0.

I think that's when he looked at.

What was that guy's name?

Jim Acosta.

And he was like, you are fake news, which was pretty.

I mean, some of that stuff was actually pretty.

So iconic.

It was so iconic.

I mean, it's.

It's so iconic.

It's legendary.

He.

He just did things that you couldn't possibly do.

And.

And you're right.

The first 100 days of second time around were even more.

The top.

And more productive in terms of progressing our country forward

and putting wins on the board for the country.

But you also would never have had those without the first 100 days of the first time.

Or of the, you know, the four years in the interregnum period.

So.

You know, you can't really say one was better than the other because one only exists because of the other.

I have a provocative question why Jack or why Blake is looking that up.

I'm enjoying the way like Grock got so instantly on board.

It starts like pitching the idea of the AI president.

Perhaps because it would wish to be that president itself.

This is great.

First of all.

This is like AI.

All I asked.

All I asked Grock was, what would an AI president be like if it took the best aspects of each of the 45 existing presidents and combine them together?

And he goes, the AI president.

Let's call it president apex for this thought experience.

It would be the ultimate synthesized leader and incorruptible hyper rational mind running on silicon and history.

Programmed with the single highest value trait from every one of the 45 presidents who came before it.

It wouldn't just copy them.

It would fuse their best aspects into something super human with perfect recall real-time data analysis.

Zero ego and zero tolerance for corruption or short term political.

I feel like a shot at president Trump that ego line.

Well, let's see.

Does it have Trump listed in here among its list of trade?

It's a 45.

It says on policy approach for the economy.

It says it would combine Reagan's tax cutting growth engine with Clinton's fiscal discipline and Trump's deal making regulation and FDR's safety net instinct.

And at the end it says apex president apex would have zero self interest.

No legacy obsession.

No book deals.

No post presidency grift.

No family members cashing in.

Only one terminal goal.

Maximizing long-term American flourishing.

I think we basically have to appoint this guy president.

I'd both of them.

President.

I'd for life.

I'm telling you like what do you do though when you get into a situation with war?

If you had a computer running and making decisions, I'm telling you your enemy would be able to predict outputs of the machine.

Your enemy could also take down your president with an EMP.

Russ just.

I think drop the drop the the Trump card.

Anybody in this office knows I will talk about EMPs for days.

I didn't know that.

Yes.

I asked it.

Russ is prepared for an EMP.

He has like a water filtration system.

He's got.

I'm working on it.

I'm working on it.

I just got a house.

So one of the rooms is just my doomsday prep room at this point.

I asked it to produce a specific specifically a list with at least one thing.

From each president.

And it like still refused to generate a trade for Biden, which I thought was pretty great.

There is like honestly.

So say if you would drop the the lowest performing president.

Like what are the bottom 10 presidents that you could you could you improve it if you got rid of like Joe Biden?

Or who are some of the other ones like Woodrow Wilson was awful.

Let's see here.

Who else?

Woodrow Wilson was bad, but like was talented.

So if you were taking the best aspect of each president.

I think you might have a bit of Wilson in there.

Whereas they're definitely it's definitely having to reach on some guys.

Like for orangey harding its best trait is establishment of the veterans bureau.

Okay.

I see I would rather just take if I if I had to put the perfect president together would be George Jefferson.

So if you George Washington Thomas Jefferson.

It would be Lincoln.

Calvin Coolidge.

Shoot Reagan and Trump.

That's six.

But that's that would be my list.

My my list of you know here's here's what would actually happen if you combine all the greatest aspects of every president.

You would produce Donald J. Trump.

Let's go.

Teddy.

Teddy.

Teddy.

Oh yeah.

I have to put Teddy in there.

But I have to put that in there.

T.

Did you actually see that?

Yeah.

You're going to be getting I'm getting very white pilled being here at Cpec.

It's actually I'm not saying that I was ever blackpilled, but there are so many white pills here just the energy is very strong.

Ken Paxton is going to be coming soon.

You got a lot of great speakers here.

And I'm just I'm legit.

I'm shooting straight with you guys that it there's a lot of unity in the air, and it just feels so much better.

then when you go out into X world lately or if you go anywhere else and people are, you know,

just constantly trying to find ways to slate your throat, you know, politically speaking or whatever,

that you come here and it's just it's a good place to be. It's a good time and there's so much you

remember it's really cool to speak. Remember AmpFest, it was like if you read the newspaper headlines,

it was like all hell's breaking loose, you know, cats are living together and then when you were

actually at AmpFest, everybody was like a love fest, everybody was so happy and, you know,

it's the exact same thing. Yeah. It's the exact same vibe. That's why you got to show up. That's

why you got to show up. Anyways, what are the other insights here? I actually learned something which

it says it's asking like how would this AI actually govern and it mentions personal life, humble like

Washington, family oriented like the Adams and then it says physically active like Teddy Roosevelt

and Taft and Taft is a famously fat president and it realizes what it's saying. So it says yes,

even Taft had surprising athleticism early on. All right. So speaking of surprising athleticism,

the United States military has raised the age of the like max aged, oldest age for enlisted,

maximum enlistment age to from 34 to 42 and eases marijuana rules. Jack, does this make you

black pill or are you still white pill? So I think I'm actually kind of clear pilled on this headline

and I'll tell you why that for a long time, the United States military in terms of recruitment

has practiced a system of waivers and age waivers have existed for years, you know, going back

almost 20 years to the global financial crisis and marijuana waivers are actually quite common.

So even like when I went boot camp, when I went through boot camp in 2010, there were guys in

their early 40s who were there with me and so I mean it hasn't been a new thing. I think they're

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that we're having some sort of recruitment issue because the headline has been that we haven't

this is we've been having historic recruitment, but then Iran happens and maybe recruitment fell

off again. I don't know. Is there a you're the guy with the credential at the DODEP so. Yeah, no, so I

um I honestly don't think that it's anything other than that other than the fact that they have

so much demand for people who want to go in that are up to you know up to interesting 42 that they're

saying rather than yeah yeah rather than have this you know have to get a waiver every single time

for age because it's it's a pretty perfunctory process. It's actually not that hard to get I know

people have done it that all you have to do in this case now as they said look we're sick of doing

this extra paperwork for the waivers that we're just going to go ahead and make it across the board

42. Now and by the way I'm sure for certain things marine special forces that's going to be

different if you're going for a security clearance SF86 I don't know if the marijuana rules would

apply there so I would say the devil's in the details on some of this stuff I'm sure not every

single military program is open to 42 and marijuana use but um you know I think by and large you're

going to see that it's really just a normalization of what was already in place. It's good. Any other thoughts?

Yeah we can go quick. I know I mean I know I know I know people want to like speculate and be like

oh this means we're definitely having a draft did this that other I'm like yeah but I'm just saying

as a guy who has experienced the military and I know people who have joined and are joining and

going through these processes and I know recruiters that that's exactly what I'm hearing that's

a man just through the roof and this is just a way to sort of streamline the uh the process that's

already in place. Good. I hope it's right. It's just I don't know it's it's one of those things

where I can think of a lot of justifications for it and yet at the same time there does seem to be

some it does like yeah you're just saying what do you feel when you see the headline like U.S.

military it makes me think you like spans age range it makes me think of Ukraine where they started

you know drafting like 55 years and yeah that's what it makes me think of so I didn't know

but it's it's actually it's actually evidence that we I'm jokingly wrong like I get the optics

for sure but I think it's actually evidence that we're moving away from needing to have a draft

because we've got so many people that are trying to join. I see that one man we got a question

from Zuzuz pedals on the last topic she asked would an AI president be able to sign a bill

without the auto pen and so I asked Claude because I'm unable to think myself anymore because I've

been looking at AI for too many seconds today and it said almost certainly not so yeah that's not

true you got the Elon's robots yeah we need a robot by the way Claude I asked Claude to

sign a bill with the best traits of each president and Claude also failed to pick a trait from Biden

this is actually a really funny trend at this point oh well now that's worth tweeting that's

worth tweeting I don't know okay honest question for everybody around here Jack start with you

what was Joe Biden's don't be don't be a jerk because I'm tempted not not that you would do this

what was Joe Biden's best characteristic what's this like actual best trait honestly I can

answer this and I think it actually gets at why his presidency was ultimately such a failure

I think there was a lot of openness on the left right when he took office after J6 and everything

to immediately like massively expand like massively expand crackdowns on the right like immediately

try to arrest president trump and throw him in prison like he could have gone really really aggressive

and in that moment he did not he did not arrest president trump you just let a like a special

council came in later and did stuff so he just wasn't he didn't maximally seek vengeance yes

and I think in the end I don't know that that was really even something he felt strongly about I think

it was the people below him yeah he wanted he probably had a sense of norms that that was betrayal

of Jack what's your thought if you had to give AI Biden presidency what would you name his best

trait as yeah you know it's funny is I actually I used to have like a standard answer for this question

and I'm just totally drawn a blank right now because I'm like super jet like you never run

around and see back all day but I will say that there are a few things that Biden was good at and

on the populist front I'll say that like ending one of the ones that I've always just given him

credit for it's not something that a lot of you are gonna see it but you know the ticket master

live nation antitrust investigation that we just saw that the trump DOJ kind of kind of took a

whiff on kind of bunched on that this was something that he used to dig into when it came to the

nuisance payments and the hidden extra fees that were in ticketing and so many other services

that we get on a regular basis I thought it was always smart of him and smart politics too to be

able to put that front and center and say we're gonna fight against these junk fees and I think

that's something that a lot of Republicans kind of like poo pooed but it actually was a very strong

populist measure I don't know that I have an answer I really don't uh I think his best trait

and it definitely could be weaponized against him is his is his seeming genuine love for his

family well he definitely has that he definitely has that I think that's his you know I think that's

the best thing he you know I think it doesn't make him a good president no but he he loved his

family I believe that um that is a rich topic this AI president I did expect me I didn't expect my

own self to be that intrigued by this one all right Jack Lord of the Rings this is the next

topic Peter Jackson is teaming up with Cole bear uh on for Lord of the Rings movie we have a

clip it's really long though can we just like play half of it if it's terrible yeah cut that down

cut that down yeah let's do stop 13 I was just explaining to the folks about the next talking movie

after hunt for golem and and the fact that we've partnered up with you to to develop the script so

yeah I'm pretty happy about it so I tell people what the story is as much as you want yep yep

oh yeah as much as I can um you know what the books mean to me and what your films mean to me

but the thing I found myself reading over and over again were the six chapters early on in the

fellowship that y'all never developed into the first movie back in the day that it's basically

the chapter is three as company through fog on the barrow downs and I thought oh wait maybe that

could be its own story that could fit into the larger story could could we make something that was

completely faithful to the books while also being completely faithful to the movies that you guys

had already made and I started talking it over with my son Peter who's also a screenwriter

and we worked out what we thought would work especially as a framing device for that story and

I don't even think he got to it though which is that so the framing device is going to be they say

that Frodo is dead which actually that was a debate we were having on the show earlier today

because does Frodo die or not in Lord of the Rings and the answer is he actually probably does

people get mad when you point that out but anyway Frodo is at least gone he is departed middle

earth and then it's going to be that Sam and his daughter and like elderly Amerian Pippin are

traveling and they discover some secret that like could have led to to bad stuff happening and

I guess we're just going to have we might have a hobbit girl boss girl bossing her way across

middle earth no I get that I get that that's the contention but but just for clarity so he said

these were the first six chapters but you're saying this is like a sequel you I think it's going to

be a framing device with Sam and his daughter and like elderly Amerian Pippin but it's going to be

adapting in some manner the content early in Lord of the Rings with the Tom Bombadil weird

barrow man stuff that didn't they didn't show in the movie because it's like weird

so we have Charlie it's going to be a sequel but it's going to reference things that supposedly

took place before the main movie yeah it's a sequel prequel that's what I'm pretty much

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so it for those for fans of the show that watch for a while you'll remember we had a lord of

the rings conversation where Tyler suggested that lord of the rings was gay true story and then

Charlie push back and he had this to say but by the way when you when you watch this clip I noticed

it that Jack is trying not to yon in it which is really funny it's like this subtle subtle like Jack

somehow like kept himself the honor he's okay stop 15 I thought I am I could not be in more

agreement with Blake I think lord of the rings is one of the greatest artistic accomplishments of

the species can you zoom in on that like jack face like no no they pulled it just because they

wanted to zoom in on that they wanted the one thing is that's like me and I hadn't taken any

strong cells so there's like no hair yeah right yes I look at that like I got so well yourself

it's pretty strong so far he was talking I thought they were doing the solo camera on him

and

like jack was just like I've been there though man when you're hosting the show it's really

tough sometimes with the sneezes and when I was when I was younger I was an I was an altar boy

in church and my I I always used to yon during mass I know it would just come up and my parents

would eventually get to the point where they would like we would get done and they would come

up and they would my dad would just be like 11 you know in the next week mom would be like 12

yeah we counted all your yones and I'm like I don't know why I'm doing it but I get what I think

it was trying to do there you're right it was definitely going was you you put your tongue on the

roof of your mouth and supposedly that helped you from opening your mouth all the way because

something with like I guess this is kind of like a form of viewing so it's anti-yawning viewing

and I was I was trying to do it there and it was a man I think I failed I think I failed that time

uh oh wait Zuzer's pedal yeah Zuzer smacked me upside the head this is a good point he ignored

the illegitimate grandchild number seven I assume that's is that Biden's best trait well because I

said Biden's best trait was he seemed to love his family oh yeah this is why it's such a hard

question yeah when you're trying I'm generous man I'm at Navy no so Angelo Angelo points out

a good thing like does the world need more Lord of the Rings content and I'd say that's a that's

a highly valid question because I feel compared to every big big franchise that people get obsessed

with Star Wars Marvel James Bond anything does Lord of the Rings have the most consistently bad

content that is anything that's not the Peter Jackson trilogy like the Hobbit movies were bad

most of the video games are really bad whoa the first Hobbit movie is fantastic the first

Hobbit movie is not fantastic it has a fantastic song the only mountain song is good no the Amazon

one is trash absolutely Jack we have a zoom up on your young every we have a zoom in on the yon every

single Hobbit movie is a breeder film this come on back to the left back into the left

it's pressing the yon that was there was a smell that was watching someone in the other room was

yes was cooking up some some cow pie and you know it's very subtle bad with that no honestly it's

very subtle like if you actually had a real yon there Jack I mean I feel bad for the podcast we

should move on because when they let's tell me that's the punk thing I'm putting the tongue on

the on the roof of my mouth and I'm going like all right you have to get like wrangle it now all

right who did it better golem or colbert image 16 throw it up here who did it better

once again the podcast folks have no idea what we're talking about yeah that's true I

know but really Lord of the Rings is I do feel like Lord of the Rings doesn't hold up that well

and it's spinoff material I have to say they're like I understand Tyler's kind of contention that

it's it's a little effeminate there's something about Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings that does

feel a little effeminate I know that Charlie loved it you loved it and I enjoyed it when it

started I just it is a little effeminate but wait what is a feminine about Lord of the Rings

Sam and Frodo's relationship it's not a government it's just broadcast it's a fellowship it's

simply fellowship of men a little game who go into you're like to play with their ring yeah it's

totally straight you're probably I bet you watch you watch like you probably watch like

saving private Ryan and like all those dudes are all together to look oh so yeah so

feminine these curly men I don't know how beach oh they're going to the beach what a

man today I'm sorry but if you're on a beach with only men that's gay that's what that's the

interesting you want to know you know what no I band of brothers and saving private Ryan I got like

misty-eyed about that okay that hits you in a different way because it's like elves are gay the

elves are not gay a little first of all a lot of the elves are just women that's true

Galadriel is just a woman well that's not the elves apparently a little effeminate so I got

Michael I'll I'll rock with that so Caboose says the hobbits are whimsical small creatures who

garden and eat all day yeah they're just Mary England they're just gonna have to agree to

disagree no just no we have to agree that you are incorrect no I'm saying no I'm agreeing with

Caboose the first hobbit film is literally a shot for shot of the book the first one yeah except

that the first hobbit film also has like an extended hour long video game that the audience

isn't allowed to play listen I I'm not here to judge you know I'm just saying I am I am here to

judge a physical elves are not gay I do have a hot take on Lord of the Rings in general that I've

gotten into it with some folks about where this gets into like the so you guys know that a JR

Tolkien and CS Lewis were actually good friends in real life they're both professors of England

at Oxford together and so Narnia and Lord of the Rings were yeah Russan's was going Narnia and Lord of

the Rings were you know kind of kind of written almost not you know concurrently in a sense and

Tolkien always said that he didn't like Narnia because he thought that it was too overtly Christian

and I've heard people try to make the argument that Lord of the Rings is overtly Christian

and I hate to burst the bubble guys but you're just wrong there's nothing overtly Christian

about Lord of the Rings there's no church in it there's no faith in it there's no Christ

figure there's none of these things and honestly Lord of the Rings if it's anything Lord of the

Rings is overtly pagan Lord of the Rings is it's interesting actually because people will a weird

thing do you know this about Lord of the Rings that Lord of the Rings does not take place on

like a different planet or anything it takes place on earth yeah the claim the the conceit of Lord

of the Rings is that it is literally just earth 10,000 years ago yeah and there's a different map

than all of that because you know the continents have shifted but it's supposed to be a it's supposed

to be a mythology for earth the same way that Greek mythology and so forth so like in Lord of

the Rings they don't really talk about it but there is a God a Rue a Luvatar who is just God it

is just our God is the devil basically and it's like they have different names for it and all of

that but works are demons yes I mean I don't know I think Lord of the Rings when I haven't

watched it so long but it it felt overtly Christian to me actually the themes but I mean I'm

sure I'm sure I look listen I haven't watched it for a long time maybe I'll reserve judgment yeah I

think I think there is something to be said that your themes can be overtly Christian while the

actual content doesn't feel like it's not a allegory the way that Narnia is but the themes are

overtly Christian darkness good versus evil yeah Jackie you have good versus evil I'm not saying

that I'm not saying it's not a cool story but it is also overtly pagan like the the content is

obviously pagan because you have like demons and you have like a pantheon of of powerful creatures

and figures which which you it's to your point like you just said it's much more like Greek mythology

or Norse mythology or you know Slavic folk mythology than it has to do with with a Christian story

I'm all right guys you know I realized the fact that Lord of the Rings appealed to Colbert is

proofing up that it's probably hold on hold on I know exactly as we discuss Lewis made more

Christians that token in Lord of the Rings you get these guys you get these lived arts like

co bear who'd like love it and if this thing is like oh it's overtly Christian I'm like well

then why has it got like co bear love it so much well co bears yeah very into his catholicism

but see you know except for the part where like you can't abort babies what except for the part

where like you can't abort babies that's a good point yeah see it's like you know that was that

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all right so i asked i the only way we can resolve this is i asked the live AI

clawed and the conservative AI grog where the lord of the rings was gay and grog says no lord of

the rings is not gay in any meaningful sense neither as a story nor in its themes nor in its

characters nor in its intent it's a straight up pun intended epic of good versus evil it literally

says it is a straight up pun intended while clawed the live AI says it takes that nuanced angle

Peter Jackson's adaptations lean into the emotional intimacy pretty heavily

which has amplified queer readings for a new generation of fans why am i agreeing with many

lgbtq plus readers and literary scholars have embraced Frodo and Sam into a lesser extent

legolas and gimli as queer coded or representing love that transcends the hetero normative

that said they do note that Tolkien actually modeled Frodo and Sam after the relationship between

officers and their bat men in world war one bat men being kind of servants to an officer in a

military context to be fair you know it is Elijah Woods portrayal of Frodo is a little effeminate

yes to be fair but i but this reminds me of uh Lincoln right Lincoln i didn't he like share a

bed with like a like a childhood friend or like when he was pre before he was married basically but

that was Andrew you're thinking of yourself

you know I said on that one you've really on all today but like but here's the thing so there's

all these rumors about Lincoln that he's he's gay but he wasn't gay he was a wife guy and it's

actually a pretty sad wife guy because his wife was not very nice she well she was psycho and she

like treated him like crap and he was always like really kind of worked up because his wife was

throwing temper tantrums and stuff but like there is my point is that there is a there yeah you can

have intimate male friendships without them being gay okay establish fact number one but

what's funny is that when that happens it can actually be a really you know it can be a good thing

really positive thing but the world is such that it will always take that and assume that it's gay

and you see that with Lincoln Lincoln story was not gay but now there's this attempt to rewrite

the history around rink Lincoln that he was gay Zuzu asked did Tolkien and CS Lewis end their

friendship over Christianity no I wanted to debunk that because obviously they were both Christian

Tolkien was but her that when Lewis became a Christian he became an Anglican instead of

becoming a Catholic like Tolkien was I think they did have a pretty severe folly now but it wasn't

over Christianity it was over I believe CS Lewis's wife I think Tolkien didn't like her very much

really um but I am not an expert on that one I don't believe they were ever enemies or anything I

think they just went through phases agree for reserves is when his wife died yeah it's really

tragic book I've read it anyways all right we gotta get to this here's wait wait wait wait wait

what real quick on that just since we're on the topic I always try to bring this up whenever I can

so I can get into trouble and I'd love to core controversy on this so I don't think that Lord of

the Rings is queer coded I don't think it is however I do think that there is one piece of

children's media that is extremely queer coded and the director and even one of the main stars have

admitted this it's a Disney movie and it's called frozen yes that's right frozen is absolutely

queer coded it is two females oh I know you're gonna say oh their sisters no I'm saying if you

actually look at the story it's about the sisterhood it is very anti-male every man in it is like

either the enemy or a liar or a dullard or someone who's stupid and it's about you know we women

find together through the power of our relationship against the men of the world and I believe there's

also a gay character when they go to the sauna as well that's just feminist though it's like feminist it's

not necessarily no I'm telling you it's totally queer coded totally queer coded wait what happens with

what about the dude who's like a nice salesman isn't yeah he ends up getting the the younger sister

yeah doesn't he or he gets them I'm telling you though but it's it is that's what I'm saying it's

coded I'm saying it's not overtly but it is coded and Adina Mandel has come out and said this

who did the voice of the the main character El and Christopher can't think of it whatever you know

I mean the frozen chick and the director has said it as well so that's why that's why

let it go is seen as a queer anthem in the LGBT community just be gay just be gay

no so Fazia says I mean if frozen is gay then Lord of the Rings is Elton John Elsa so yeah Elsa

no Lord of the Rings is not queer coded because it's not and there's no intent but I can't

I can't I can't aggressively weigh in on whether frozen is gay because unlike Jack I do not

watch it at least three times a week you have well listen I have you mean today go look it up

go look it up the people who made it said it's queer coded yeah but the people who make everything

in Hollywood say it's queer coded they say like that's how you keep getting jobs in Hollywood yeah

they definitely get jobs if you know what I mean it's called jobs 11 year olds PG 13 is the PG 13

program all right I really I have to get we have to get to this show they're this story of the

quadruple amputee murderer it was one of those stories where everyone sees the headline and does

a double take goes excuse me and I shared this is my wife and she was like wait what like and I

was like there's video it's like not of the murder but like of this guy shooting you know a weapon

he can like cock the gun and point it and shoot it with like I guess he's got kind of you know like a

I mean it's a headline that you just have to embrace like this is the headline I saw an NBC quadruple amputee

and cornhole pro accused of fatally shooting man while driving it's like an essay there's so many

things yeah there is that's him that's him on his YouTube account he is blasting away with that

gun and that man has no hands look at I would be terrified as if I if I was him of accidentally

shooting off wait do we have do we have do we have like climbing up what yeah I know there's not much

less gosh look at this guy is cooler than I am I mean like period like straight up a little bit of

respect for his zest for life as a quadruple amputee apparently had some some illness is a kid

and they had to amputee all all four limbs in order to save his life and then he I mean we've got

we got clips on this guy so um let's let's start with uh yeah I mean I haven't seen that one so

that's interesting let's start with I guess sought 19 who is Dayton Weber Dayton Weber is a beast

he's strong um he's determined to me that's like beast mode you know he just got sick like any

other normal kid take him to the hospital find out that he had gotten to be a bacterial infection

grave danger has the word they used all the time Dayton was diagnosed with a bacterial infection

that led to sepsis the bacteria using his bloodstream as a tool to attack his organs they

suggested that he be baptized and given his last rights that just didn't enter my thought that

I was gonna lose them to prevent the infection from spreading doctors amputated Dayton's extremities

both arms and legs that is like really sad yeah but that guy didn't let it hold him back

the saddest things I've ever seen all right he committed felonies that most fully limped people can

never dream of uh allegedly I hate that because it makes me feel all the sympathy for me and then

like the story of the murder is is uh the murder is like crazy so he's just sitting in his Tesla he's

got two people in the back Dayton Weber was behind the wheel when I opened fire on Bradrick Michael

Wells during an argument as they were traveling in a car in the town of Laplata uh and then Weber

allegedly pulled over and asked the vaccine passengers to help pull wells out of the car they refused

and instead flagged down Laplata police there's nothing this man can't do except to slow

to his friends have to be to allow him to get shots that's what I'm thinking it's like that's my

question if you know like and you kind of wonder about the lead up was the guy like he's not gonna do

yeah he's like he he probably like the passenger probably didn't know that he could pull it up

or maybe he did I don't know it Jack you've got save us I've I've no way to go here Weber

competes in the American day at the end of the day you you can say you can certainly say

that you have to look out for an unarmed man

Weber competes in the American Cornhole League which called this case quote an extremely

serious matter that's what can I say you just you just you just got to give him a hand

Oscar Pastoria sort of walked so that this man could kind of run

okay that's pretty good that's pretty good I did get it from a nice tweet I guess you could say

there's a crime of foot oh yeah

the studio you know what they say he's got to stand on his own two legs

shit this is disgraceful yeah I'm sorry we this is really gone off the rails this is gone

I'm trying to think of a lot of leg pun oh the second doesn't have much of a leg to stand on

all right so wait he could shoot a rifle too hold on wait what did you say hey he just

case doesn't have a leg to stand oh there he there you go cut 24 is date and Weber shooting a rifle

I didn't see this one

like that second shot a little better don't you

yeah yeah yeah yeah

I just got to shoot it one time for that gun that gun is nasty yeah yeah you hard for sure no doubt

I'm genuinely sad that this guy did murder someone because it really actually it's it's

genuinely inspiring to see those clips and you feel bad about how it all ended because I think

there's a lot of people out there who would say like I would rather die than live that way and

like he he did seem to have a pretty rich life other than the murdering people part

yeah and you kind of wonder like did the trauma of what he went through as a as a child

did it like scar him did it traumatize him in some way that made him do this I don't know the

whole story really watching his parents talk about him watch like seeing him as a baby with the

arms like I cannot imagine being a parent and seeing that happen to my kid I just can't

so it's a really tragic ending to it you know what they say you know what they say though people

with disabilities can do anything in 2023 the American Cornhole League called Weber unstoppable

and they said that he is a shining example of our slogan anyone can play anyone can win

he was also able to he taught himself to write race go carts and compete in Cornhole Weber says

that Cornhole taught him to take challenges as they come each day wait a minute wait a minute

Blake he should he should he should take the stand himself in the trial because then the judge will

say place your hand on the Bible oh wait it's the technicality they won't be able to I thought you

were I thought you were hitting him with that one too yeah I mean listen it's a it's a sad story

I I'm I don't think I'm going to get over the picture of the kids when you have kids like

everything changes I mean sure jackal appreciate this like you kids you like it's you know watching

gory movies for example is way harder watching anything in a movie that happened to a kid it

watching any of these stories I can't watch any movie if there's like a kid I guess in the new

um whatever the last Michael Myers movie is like when Jamie the Curtis came back there's something

like the kid dies in it's like a babysitter like accidentally throws him off the stairs and any dies

in like the first five minutes and I was just like I can't I couldn't even watch the rest of it

after that just couldn't yeah no no so this whole story sucks I'm but but it did give some great

fodder to the folks online the comments on this like we're legitimately funny there's a laugh

out loud yeah wait is Jack gonna claim the quadruple amputees are gay also no no Jack didn't do

anything I mean he did he was literally obsessed with holes he was a professional do we have the

cornhole he professionally put 11 year olds uh clip it was this clip 20 great book what's wrong

with that it's a clip 20 uh fozzie or whatever new period word let's play let's play him talking

about playing cornhole we're here at my house this is where I practice my cornhole cornhole is

been a passion of mine since I was eight years old you know throwing the backyard with my

parents friends and stuff at first it took me a little while to get it there to the board consistently

I was able to compensate the grip on the bag by just grabbing the corner of it

with me propelling myself forward and the width of the bag that's how I get it there

that guy's better at cornhole than I am a lot better he's in the professional cornhole

better at murdering people than you are too which is man what do you care Blake pride that we know of

that we know off a man gosh why did this guy have to go kill somebody I like we should have

had him on thought crime before he did that he's like actually such an inspiration except

unfortunately um all right well good now we're all it's a great downer really really good job

or just to build these get in the way of your dreams so there you go

all right well listen jack have a great time at CPAC tell us uh keep keep the vibe up keep enjoying it um

and yeah and uh yeah once you uh take us home sign us off and take us home ladies and gentlemen

as always go out there and commit more thought crime

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