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On a Friday, midday, Friday, midday, if you're in the United States,
as I was reading the recent headline about Chuck Norris, the martial artist,
and the actor who just passed away at the age of 86 years old.
I've seen a lot of piling on when it comes to Chuck Norris and we'll talk about why in just a second.
That's not why I'm doing this stream. I'm not trying to kick his reputation when he's down.
Problematic guy in a lot of ways, but I just thought it would be an interesting way to start
a live stream. And then if there's something that you want to talk about,
something that's on your mind, I don't care if it relates to Chuck Norris or Christian nationalism or
your pets or the weather. I mean, as long as it's interesting, we can talk about it.
So the fun lines are wide open, the call in link, and the phone number are both in the description
box of the broadcast and the switchboard is wide open. Okay, so Chuck Norris was born in my home state
in a town called Ryan Oklahoma, never heard of Ryan before. He joined the Air Force in the 50s.
I think he ended up in Korea to study martial arts in the early 1960s and this guy was the real thing.
I think he had 10 black belts and one, I get them all confused and forgive my ignorance because
there's jujitsu and then there's judo and karate and all these other things. A 10th degree black belt
in tang sudo, an 8th degree black belt in taekwondo. I got that much right. When he got out of Korea
and was discharged from the Air Force, then he opened up a series of martial arts studios and it
became like a multi-world champion martial artist. And he ended up in a bit parts in a
Bruce Lee movie back in 1974. It was called The Way of the Dragon. And this propelled him into
some other films. I don't know if you have seen the documentary about the Golan Globis films
of the 1980s, but OMG. Just an odd series of films that came out of this studio over the course of
1520 years, overwhelmingly 80s. And I mean, they were like, you know, the action hero wearing the
star-studded bandana bearing two arms filled with machine guns bursting up out of the creek and
mowing down the enemy camps while Americana music plays in the background. You know, ta ta ta ta. It's
the kind of thing that team America, world police, parody in that film. And this was Chuck Norris. And so
he was hired to start in a film called Missing in Action. And immediately whenever they were filming
Missing in Action, they knew they were going to do a sequel. So they commissioned Missing in Action
2. So both films kind of in development, he acted in one and then the other. Well, upon review,
the producers realized, holy shit, Missing in Action 1 is garbage. It is poorly shot. It's poorly
edited. It's a piece of crap. But Missing in Action 2, the sequel is actually not a bad film
for what it is. It's sort of a cheap, it's a rip off of a rip off of Rambo Commando, etc. Except
I think Missing in Action may have actually come before Commando. But it was that kind of thing.
It was very Rambo-esque, right? So the producers are like, okay, well, what we're going to do is,
let's release Missing in Action 2 first. And then we'll release Missing in Action 1 later. So we
established a marketplace for the film with something that doesn't suck quite as much. And then
those suckers will come in. And they're going to buy tickets to go see the one that's not really a
very good film. And then Chuck Norris goes off on a series of other movies. We know him from Walker,
Texas Ranger. That television show aired for, I think, a decade. And he's this very,
he's Chuck Norris, right? This stoic, straight-faced, mustacheed cowboy-headed gun-toten. Did he carry
a gun in Walker? Or did he just, he ended every show with a roundhouse kick? I know that much.
Everybody said at the end, he's got to take out the bad guy with a roundhouse kick. And so that was
sort of his thing. Delta Force was, I was just an offensive movie that came out during the 80s.
And it was, I want to say, was it, Iran? Where was the hostage with the TWA jet?
Forgive me, I should have prepared this in advance, but it just puked into my mind. So there was
a real-life hijacking. And these passengers were trapped on a plane. And it was, it was just a
horrific thing, right? Well, Goal on Globis decides they're going to capitalize by putting together
a film with Lee Marvin and Chuck Norris called Delta Force. And they go in with, I mean, it's just
the most cartoony crazy shit you have ever seen. And it's like motorcycles with rocket launchers
on the front of them, you know, like a thing. And they go and they're like, make sure you don't
start shooting the bad eras until we've got the women and children off the plane.
It was that kind of film. And the entire movie, just a bunch of freaking white American soldier
types heavily armed shooting the shit out of brown people. So that was what Delta Force was.
There is another film that for my money is one of the greatest bad films ever made.
1982, it came out. It's called Silent Rage and Chuck Norris, who only plays one character.
That's all he's got. Yeah, that's all he had. It's not even quite even like Jason Statham,
who is awesome, by the way, and is the exact same character in every film that he's the exact
same character in every film and then bother me. But with Chuck Norris, you just know there's
just no range. All right, there's just no range. So he is in this Michael Miller film called Silent
Rage. And in the film, there is a psycho killer. And the movie starts out and the psycho killer lives
with a family. And all of a sudden, he goes crazy with an axe. And he kills everybody in the
house with an axe. Now, this is 1982. So we're right here. Four years after Halloween, we're two
years after Friday the 13th, the first film had released. And we're really into that 1980 serial killer
craze, right? But we're also dragging in some of that 1970s John Wayne Americana. That's still
kind of with us in the early 80s. And so Silent Rage attempted to combine both of these.
So you got a cowboy-headed mustache to gun Totten Sheriff, Chuck Norris. And he fights this guy,
this madman with an axe, and almost kills him at the beginning of the film. So the psycho killer
ends up being whisked away to be, I don't know, treated at a hospital, but his psychiatrists are there.
And lo and behold, they are not just psychiatrists. They are genetic scientists.
They decide they're going to take their genetically enhancing cell regenerating superman formula.
I can't remember all the syringes filled with those types of superhealing liquid in the 80s.
They were all neon green, like in reanimator. I don't know if that was the case with Silent
Rage. I'm trying to remember, was it like a glowing neon syringe? But they inject him
and all of a sudden the psycho killer becomes indestructible. He's invulnerable. So then he escapes
obviously from the asylum or the hospital or whatever. And he's running around and Chuck Norris
is on the case. And he chases the psycho killer and they get into all these fights where the killer,
what was his name? I wrote it down. John Kirby. He was played by a stuntman named Brian Libby.
John Kirby, the madman. He receives, I don't know how many lethal injuries.
He should be dead. And then they do a close-up of the wound on his body and it goes
and literally heals right on this. So oh shit, we can't kill this guy. He's been made superhuman
by the psychiatrist genetic scientist people. And at the very end, after yet another
fight scene, the killer is set on fire and Chuck throws him into the bottom of a deep well.
But is he really dead? This is also another staple of 1980s thriller movies. It was sort of a
Western horror. Is he dead? Dun dun dun. Once again, silent rage. If you love so bad that they
are bad films, this is your citizen game. 44 years ago it was released. They made it for nothing.
I think it grossed like $10 million. Chuck was sort of his own franchise at the time. Now we talk
a lot about Chuck Norris today because he was a professing Christian. And I find this is really,
really interesting because it's that John Wayne Christianity. You know what I'm saying? It's
that sort of chess thumping godly masculinity. There is an actual movement. I wrote this down as well.
It's called muscular Christianity. Now there is, there's a thinking in the fundamentalist Christian
church that over the course of time, all of these woke lib progressive types have watered down
what a man really is supposed to be. Men are supposed to be manly men. And anyone who is not a
manly man is not a man kind of thing. And so they teach whole courses. They have workshops and
retreats. They grab dudes and boss them out to the wilderness. And they all get in touch with
their manly selves. Who knows what the hell is going on in the woods? I'm sorry, it took 20
guys into the forest and disappearing for three days. I'm a little suspicious about that. I mean,
maybe they're out there chewing bark off the tree with their teeth and, you know, making fire
and screaming at the moon. But apparently there's this idea that well, we need to get back to being
a masculine man. Now there's nothing wrong with masculinity. It can be a wonderful, wonderful thing
in a healthy sense. The problem I have with it is twofold. One is that many people treat it as
exclusive, meaning if you are male, but you are not emoting this sort of chest thumping muscular
square jawed bravado with this John Wayneishness, then you're not a real man. The second thing is
is that it's exclusive. So if someone does meet that criteria, then everybody who is not that is
somehow supposed to be lesser. So it ignores the wide wild spectrum of humanity. And it sort of
sets this one. I don't know. They're the Mark Wayne Mullins of the world. But if you don't know
who Mark Wayne Mullin is, he is an Oklahoma politician who is Trump's pick to now head the
Department of Homeland Security. I just released a video on him. This guy is the school yard bully.
He's the one who his idea of solving problems is to go around, show his muscles, pump his chest,
you know, throw his fist in the air and street fight anybody who rubs him the wrong way. And he
tried to do that last fall at a Senate hearing with a guy named Sean O'Brien and the teamster's
union. He's like, you've been talking shit about me. You want to go and Sean O'Brien's like,
yeah, man, let's go right here. So in the middle of the Senate chamber, Mark Wayne Mullin jumps
up out of his chair and he's literally going to get into a fist fight with the dude that made him
mad. This is the type of Christianity I'm talking about. Mark Wayne Mullin is one of those
professing Christians. And when he has been challenged at his confirmation hearings about the
physicality of his responses, is this how you solve your problems? You have anger management
issues. What the hell and why would we give you control over the Department of Homeland Security?
His response is, well, I've been prayerfully asking the Lord to work on my heart, which is total
horseshit, total horseshit, right? He believed that this is what men do. Men stake out territory,
men fight over language, over words. My honor will not be insulted, pistols at dawn.
And so it's that kind of masculinity. There was a book that was written. I want to say it was in
the 90s by a guy named Robert Lewis. And it's titled Raising a Modern Day Night. Okay, an IGHD,
like Knights of the Round Table. And the Bible is loaded with militarized language when it comes to
the faithful in general, but certainly when it comes to men, right, you are the strength, you are the
protector, you are the final word. So your wife submits to your leadership, the headship of the home
as you submit to the headship of Jesus Christ. The masculine, manly man is in charge. You are the
umbrella over everybody else. And I think this is kind of how Chuck Norris expressed his Christianity.
So as early as, I think it was 2000, 2002, 2004, he was appearing on Christian television shows. He
was on the Christian Broadcasting Network, CBN, I mean, a total cheese fast.
Jesus, have you watched CBN? It's horrifying. It's just one of those things where people get around
and speak piously about how everybody else is living wrong. And then they ask for money at CBN.
So Chuck Norris is on there and he's talking about, you know, I'd fallen away from the faith.
I'd gotten saved when I was younger at a Billy Graham crusade, but I'd fallen away from my faith.
But then this happened. I forgot what it was. It was a family crisis or someone went to the hospital
and he ended up having to rely on God to see them restored. And I'm like, if God was going to
restore them, why the hell did they need to go to the hospital? But it was this that brought me
back to God. God. And then I think he actually was a spokesperson for the National Rifle Association,
which is a cult, by the way, the NRA is just a cult. But I mean, he's a perfect fit. You know,
walking around with his two guns, walking around with a cowboy hat and the two gun kind of thing.
That's it. And beaten a shit out of the people that run him the wrong way. What would Jesus do, Chuck?
So he's talking about his Christianity against a backdrop of shooting psycho killers with axes.
Okay. Did you see the trailer for missing an action? Go to YouTube and watch it.
There's a scene where he pops up. Vietnam War movie, right? This was back when we were trying to
restore American honor in our own minds after getting our asses kicked in Vietnam, which is all
that Rambo was, you know, he's going to go back. Is that do we get to win this time? And one guy
kills 50,000 people in Vietnam and rescues our soldiers. And anyway, then he walks off. He wanders
off like cane from kung fu off into the wilderness. That's how the movie ends. Well, this is what
missing an action is. One man goes in and he just shoots everybody and then rescues POWs.
And there's the scene where he pops up out of the river or the creek or something. And I think
he had two machine guns slow motion. The extended shell casings are flying out of the weapon.
And he's you don't got that look on his face. This is his idea of masculinity. And I'm telling you,
Christian culture conservative Christian culture loves this stuff. They love ass kicking stuff wrapped
in Americana. They just love it. And I know because I spent decades in that that culture. So we got
the same guy who is mowed down and, you know, chokeslammed and sucker punched. Who knows how many
people for decades of film and television who was talking about how Jesus loves everybody. And
that we should be a Christian nation. We are a Bible based Christian nation. He had a ton of warnings
about Obama when he was running in 2008. And now if Obama is elected, this this nation will have
been given over into the hands of the evil one. Right. I think he actually may have invoked the
anti-Christ. You're going to have to check me on that. I'm going from memory, but it was that
kind of apocalyptic language. No, if Obama is elected, we're going to be propelling down the path
toward debauchery. We need to be godly. We need to be godly. Now he was in 2012, I think, that
Chuck Norris co-starred in the expendables too. Now this is the same guy who is supposedly holding
Jesus Christ. Blessed are the meek. A soft answer turns away wrath. Turn the other cheek.
Right. Let's say turn the other cheek. A soft answer turns away right away. That's the vibe.
I looked it up for the expendables too. There is a body count of 489 people killed.
87 of those people in the movie killed by Chuck Norris's character. So while Chuck is busy talking
about Gigi, he's starring in a movie where he wastes almost 90 people. This is the hypocrisy.
You know, this is the hip-hop. Well, they were all bad guys who deserve to be mowed down. I didn't
see the film. I'm guessing there were bombs and grenades and bullets. It's just to shoot him
up kind of movie. The expendables series is like commando. It's like Rambo. It's like a bunch of
those where everybody gets killed, but nobody gets hurt. It's kind of a cartoon. It's like a video
game and I don't begrudge anybody that. But I think I just think it's interesting that a guy who's
always talking about Jesus. So eagerly jumps into a franchise where they just shoot the shit
so anyway, Chuck Norris. Chuck Norris has passed away.
Dr. Dumay has written a book about this flavor of Christianity. It's called Jesus and John Wayne.
And it really gets into kind of a sinister shade of how Christian men see masculinity.
And it's not just, sometimes it's subtly, sometimes not so subtly misogynistic, but it's
unhelpful because it adds a priority of physicality to how men are supposed to approach problem-solving
and goal setting and achieving in this world. So rather than being the physicality that would
stand up for the bully, it becomes the physicality that actually likes the tough guy who goes in and
bends or breaks the rules and shatters the glass and kicks over the furniture and does what it
takes to get shit done. And this explains some of Maggie's support of Donald Trump because that is
how he positioned himself, which to me is ridiculous. He's the most tissue-skinned pampered,
coddled, spoiled, rotten human being, I think, on the planet. He's busy playing war right now with
the billions of dollars Blitzkrieg, which is the United States military, and nobody in his family
has served in the military for 125 years. He himself got five draft deferments. So this is really his
chance to go play army. And so when you've got a pathetic, very shallow idea of what strength is,
strength is not building. Strength is breaking. Strength is not healing. Strength is causing
damage. Strength is not preventing a war. Strength is using war to establish dominance. And there
was a big shade of that throughout a lot of fundamentalist Christianity. I don't care what they say
about Jesus on the surface. God is love. Jesus is love. What they really like is the God who's going
to go. He's going to defeat his enemies. He's going to crush the wicked. He will establish
dominion. And then he will give priority to his army, aka them. And Chuck Norris was a part of that
conversation. And he spread a lot of those ideas. Now, do I think Chuck Norris knew the Bible?
No. I don't think Chuck Norris knew the Bible. You know, apparently he began reading with his wife.
They began Bible study. And I don't know for sure. But I'll bet if I was to sit down and give Chuck
Norris a five minute Bible quiz on the basics, he would probably not even get a C minus. Because
there's is a cultural faith. This idea of Jesus and that idea of Jesus reflects their own desires
and views and even prejudices about the world. So anyway, Chuck Norris had passed away. And he was
just sort of on my mind. And I thought, maybe I would chit chat about it for a second. Nobody's
on the switchboard. Maybe nobody wants to talk today. So it's just me. Hey, I can fill the time.
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to talk about. I just bought tickets. I'm taking my wife out tonight. We're going on a date.
We're going to see the Elvis documentary, the King of Rock and Roll. We love some Elvis.
And so apparently, there's some found footage of Elvis at a concert well before he died,
and it's supposed to be amazing. And it was put together in a fantastic way. So we're going to see
the King of Rock and Roll tonight. So it's going to be a fun date.
And I appreciate Elvis as an artist. I think he was the real thing. And I love a good
documentary. And then afterwards, maybe we'll go get a peanut butter and Nana sandwich. Thank you
very much. I heard that Elvis Presley actually, when he craved, this is so wasteful and stupid,
when he was actually craving one of his favorites, which was the peanut butter and banana sandwich,
he got on a plane with his band and flew to a restaurant somewhere that served the sandwich
just so he could eat it. I mean, that's a level of disconnect from reality that I have a hard time
just. But anyway, that's just going to where I'm at. All right. I am watching this 310 area code
on the switch board. I'm just going to sit here and stare at it for a moment until they are
ready. And then we will we'll do our thing. The ever-to-word Graceland.
God, I mean, it is so gaudy. It is it is what people who came from abject poverty do with money.
Like he turned his racket ball court into a gold record museum. So he's got the, you know,
the big wall of gold records. The pool table room alone is so gaudy. And the whole thing is
just kitschy. But everybody should do our Graceland. If you get a chance. But I mean, every time love
me tender comes on, you got me. I'm in jailhouse rock pound dog. I can't help falling in love with you.
I'm in. I'm in. Love me some Elvis. I've got a web call dialing in. What do I call you?
It's zombie right issue. Can you hear me? I can. What's on your mind?
Am I getting, are you getting feedback or can you hear an echo or can you hear an echo?
You sound great. What's on your mind? Outstanding. I always check that first.
What's on your mind? I was actually calling in on over last,
over last, for the last program that you were on about us being controlled.
I had some feedback. I wanted to give you, but I will say something about Chuck Norris because I
know that that's today's topic. I have met Chuck Norris before. I saw him at our local,
our local Comic Con that we have here every year at our, I wouldn't want to call it a convention
center, but we referred to it as the bank center. It used to be called just the name of our city
plus convention center, but apparently it got, that's fine. You met him by private equity.
You met it. I don't care about the venue. You met him. What was your impression?
He just seemed, he seemed like a very nice man. He didn't see. He wasn't raised at us at all.
He just stood next to me and my mother was there and we both had our photograph made.
He didn't look, and he was like 81 at the time, I think, but you could not tell. He didn't
look like an old man as far as old men go. I've heard you said he was a tremendously nice guy.
Again, I'm not, I'm not dunking on Chuck Norris because he was, he's not, I know a lot of people
who are believers and who believe we are one nation under God, etc. And they're not the devil.
So I'm not trying to vilify the guy. I was just talking about some of the shades of his
reputation and his history that I find problematic, but I have heard he's, I've heard he was a nice guy
and I certainly don't begrudge him his success. And I know he was the genuine article when it came
to martial arts. The guy was his body was a weapon. There was no doubt. That's true. That's also
Trojan Claude Van Dam. Apparently from what I've told it's not true of Steven Segal. Oh hell
no. Steven Segal is, no, no, no, you have got to, if anybody within the sound of my voice,
go to YouTube and type in Steven Segal bullshito. And it's a series of films or clips from Steven
Segal's life that reveal just how fake he really is. It is a punchline. His whole end and the guy
is, is toxic. He would be on film sets and Steven Segal would be fighting with another character
on screen. And for no reason, he would purposefully harm them. He would throw them into actual walls
or into floors. He would, he would cause real injury. He is an example of toxic masculinity. He
believed that everywhere he went, he had to show that he was, he could supposedly kill you.
So what he would do is instead of act, he would genuinely cause physical damage to the people
that were trusting him to, to act. He's just a horrible human being. Go ahead, go ahead,
continue. I was going to, I was going to ask, have you seen what he looks like now?
Well, yeah, I mean, he's, he definitely doesn't look like, he doesn't look, he looks more like
a, somebody's thumb than he looks like someone who could, you know, fuck you up, but whatever.
I mean, maybe a big guy could, could be just as lethal. He simply is not, at least not for the
right reasons. So Chuck Norris, though, your impression was good. What else did you have?
Uh, he, uh, he was just a, a very nice, thin man. He was absolutely surrounded by security.
They put him, it was the only other time I've seen somebody with that much security around them,
where they had bodyguards, just everywhere around, with a line up a door to meet him.
The only other time I saw that, believe it or not, was meeting Barbara Eden from I dream of
Jeanie. She apparently had what looked like a, um, what looked like a secret service detail almost.
Chuck Norris was the same way. You had people standing around with earpieces on the, the,
the, he was in a little enclosure that was like a little room in a middle of the, in the,
in the, in the middle of the commission floor with a door surrounding it, like a temper,
a tiny temporary building inside the inside of something, the size of a basketball court.
And, um, they, uh, and he didn't say much to me or my mother. He, um, he just stood there and he
smiled and said, I'm glad that you came here today to meet me. He didn't know my name,
he didn't know my mother's name. He was, he was, he was playing, um, friendly, he was polite.
Oh, you know, you're not around me. Why would he know your name? What?
He wouldn't be like, he wouldn't, but he didn't ask is what I'm saying. Oh, I see. Okay. He didn't say,
what, what, what, what is your name? Um, he, and, and he put it around me and he put it around,
and so I'm going to, my mother in a professional talk photographer took a picture of his both.
Well, I can understand why celebrities do need security because, you know, you'd never know,
right? It could be overwhelmed by anybody jumping out from anywhere and, and I certainly don't
begrudge him that. What else did you have for me today? Um, I wanted to talk to you about something
about the, that I missed about the last program that you are on. I didn't get a chance to call in,
and I don't want, and I wanted to bring something up, um, something up, particularly about streaming
services. Um, this is actually a, a, a, a, an impassioned hobby of mine. I'm a computer guy. I,
I got a bachelor's degree in computer science. We've talked before. I'm the Babylon five guy.
If you remember. Yeah. About streaming services. Okay. I'm trying to focus you. Yes. What's your point?
Okay. Um, my big thing about streaming services is the utilization of DRM on them,
or digital rights management or digital restrictions management.
Most streaming services with the hand with the, with the exception of a couple of them,
one of them being, um, to be another one being Pluto TV. For a little while, Crunchyroll had a,
had a non DRM, um, um, had a non DRM option for, um, for certain devices with certain programs,
particularly the Nintendo Switch, to where, if you got, if you were on an Nintendo Switch and the,
and the program you wanted to watch was a certain one, um, it would say, um, you were only allowed
to pick certain titles approved by certain publishers and consume it DRM free. What DRM free
effectively means is like a VCR, you could record it. Okay. And keep the files permanently on your
own, on your own hard drive or keep it on your own media. To be in Pluto TV are much the same way.
You can record certain things off of Pluto TV and to be. Um, but the thing is that it's actually the,
um, the, the services that offer that are few and far between and aren't very popular. Okay.
On Netflix, everything has DRM on it. You have to, you have to watch it through their approved
software on their approved devices and you can't record anything. So if you cancel your prescription,
you lose everything. DRM free services allow you to keep what you record, even if you discontinue
services, um, service with them. It's like keeping VHS tapes. Okay. This is also true of broadcast
television. I have a very large scale, uh, DVR system that, um, that records a lot of programs,
um, because when I was growing up, my father had a VHS tape collection, um, and I record off of VHS
tape all the time. Or one, I'm not record things all the time. My whole thing about the, about being
controlled is, is that I disagree with DRM in principle and resist, um, and resist subscribing
to services that support it as a concept, um, because I think that, that regular consumers should
have fair use rights. Got that? No, I think we should be able to record things. I think we should
be able to keep things, but a lot of the industry considers our ability to record anything, um,
to be, um, anything to be a form of piracy. They said there's, um, the only, and I disagree
with that, that concept entirely. This does not mean that I want to go back to VHS recording,
VHS analog recording. I'm not saying that. I am saying, I don't want DRM on my streaming services.
I don't want DRM on my over-the-air television. Okay? Um, I want to be able to record things. I want
to be able to keep things and I want to be able to time shift things. And I wish that the, that the
American consumer would do more to, and I'm watching the comments section and they're making fun of
me and saying, um, they're, and they're, they're saying, so I had to know, you know, I'm a belt,
which was the style of it. They're saying I'm ranting like grandpa Simpson. Basically, um,
I want to be able to own the things that I buy. If I, okay, I don't want to be, I don't want to
spend my money, um, and send it into a whirlpool of, um, send it down a whirlpool or down a toilet
bowl for something that a publisher can take away from me because the DRM says that they can do
that. I understand. I understand. When I record something, I wanted to be mine permanently.
So hang on just a second. So does this prevent whatever this is on a streaming service?
If you tried to record it digitally on your end onto a Tivo or something, would it not allow you
to do that? Or is there sort of a, uh, I don't know, code that kicks in? There's, there's, there's
different degrees of it. Um, on, for certain approved devices, and this is going to become,
um, this is going to become a thing on broadcast television in the next few years, meaning over
the air, over the, the, the antenna, there, there's a big to do because the FCC is, is actually going
to start approving changing the television standard again. All right. After it was just changed in,
in 2009, um, to where it now has DRM on it. So we would be the equivalent of back in the old days
when you and I were listening to the American top 40. We had a blank cassette. We were recording
songs off the radio. It would be the equivalent of them adding something that would not allow us
to do that. Only, you know, dead air or our white noise or something would record enough
the actual song. And then we wouldn't be able to keep a hard copy of that. You resist that and you
think we as a, a culture should be resisting it more as well. Is that your point? Exactly.
Okay. Exactly. That does not mean go back to analog device. I'm not talking about the format.
I'm talking about the ownership of the media. I don't care. Well, you know,
exactly. No one's going back to analog, right? No one's going back to VHS. So, but I do take your
point. I think it's an interesting one about who owns what we own. If I purchase it and Amazon Prime
has it on its cloud and Amazon just decides it's not going to provide what I bought. There's almost
nothing I can do about it. And then if I wanted to record something on my end and they decide,
hell, no, you can't. Now I'm even more handcuffed. Is that a fair way to put it?
That's where the way to put it. And it does apply to, but it does apply to books too. There are DRM
on, there is DRM on books that are bought off Amazon. All right. Okay.
But it's an interesting point. I appreciate you making it up now. Well, I'm sure people in the
chat and in the listenership and in the online on YouTube will be chewing on this for a while. Okay.
And someone in the comment section said, I miss DVDs. DVDs had DRM on them.
They did. If you if you if you tried to record off of certain DVDs with a DVD with DVD,
CSS on it, which was the DVD form of DRM,
going back to physical media won't save you. The early DVDs that had DRM on them would
simulate macro vision if you tried to record from a DVD to VHS tape. I only brought that up because
somebody in the comment section said, I wrote, wrote, I miss DVD. Now I got you. Now I'll let you
continue that conversation in the comment section. Appreciate you. Call very much. We'll see you later.
No problem. Take care. I remember the VHS
Betamax Wars. Beta superior in quality, but the beta tape would not record an entire two-hour film.
And so it was like, well, you know, the videos knobs were like beta. Sony Betamax is much, much
superior, but VHS is like, oh yeah, well, if you extra slow play our tapes, you got six hours,
you can put three movies. And there was also a story going out. And it's only semi-true.
It people like to pitch it that this is the reason, quote unquote, the reason that VHS won the video
cassette wars back in the 1980s. And supposedly the reason is porn. And the porn industry
decided that VHS was going to be its format of choice and the overwhelming popularity of
videotaped pornography caused VHS to defeat the Sony beta. That is that porn was part of that
equation, but it was not the full story. There was a bunch of other reasons that VHS won. But even
today you get people talking about it. It's almost like listening to the Android and the iPhone
crowd go after each other. Well, beta was much, so it was such a superior, much better picture
quality. Well, no one's disputing that. You know, but there's also utility who wants to put in a
second tape to finish the same freaking movie. Anybody remember laser disk? Did you have to flip
the laser disk over? Trying to remember laser disk was a big deal in the 90s. Big-ass disk about
the size of an actual album. And it was huge. Everybody said, well, this is going to be it. It's
going to revolutionize. It's all everybody's going to do. And I can't remember if you had to
actually flip the disk over to finish your movie. I'm going to have to go and look that up.
Let's talk to Deborah, dialing in from three, one, zero, high, dead. Are you there?
I am here. Can you hear me? Indeed, I can. Let's talk. What's on your mind?
All right. So kindred spirit raised in the South, Bible belt, church of Christ, purity culture,
all that. Wow. And I moved to what they say, Kami forna and got two liberal ten years ago.
And so I'm ostracized and picked out of the family. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
Your friends, your family, your conservative relatives and circles say you are now more
liberal. So therefore you're a Kami pig kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Wow.
And if you were to ask them to define communist or socialist or progressive,
they probably couldn't do it. Good day. Absolutely. Because Jesus was a socialist, but they
don't understand that. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'll call it stop and rupting. Go ahead.
No, I just say, yeah, Jesus was definitely a socialist. And that's, you know, they just don't apply
that to their lives. So here's three things from the beginning, coffee mug,
picture of Jim Jones. It says, drink up. That's my coffee mug. That's dark. That's dark.
Now for the few who don't know, if for the few who don't know, I just have to throw this out.
I'm guessing most everyone does. Jim Jones, the cult leader of the 1970s, he was crazy and he
established this camp. What country was it in? It was overseas. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I think it was it. Yeah. And he and convinced many, but also many were forced to drink a poisoned
fruit punch or some sort of a drink and 900 people died in what was called a mass suicide event
under the cult leader, Jim Jones. So when people talk about drinking the Kool-Aid, first of all,
it wasn't actually Kool-Aid, but and not everybody did it voluntarily, but that's what they're
talking about. And that is a dark idea for a mug. Jim Jones, drink up. Go ahead. What else did
you have? Yeah. Well, just taking back to that is because I feel like my family has
drank the Kool-Aid, so to speak. Yeah. And I refuse to. Okay. Second, Elvis. Okay, families from
Memphis, Tennessee. Fun fact, when Elvis's mother died, Gladys died. Elvis's father remarried
D. D. Presley. D. Presley went to church with my grandparents and Memphis. And so when Elvis
died, my grandparents preacher preached the funeral. So that was interesting. Wow. I remember
watching afternoon television, and I don't think they would ever do this today. This was
back when cable was still not really a big thing. And they broke in to network television just to
make the announcement that Elvis Presley had died. I forgot what show we were watching, but they
just jumped in and they said, important news bulletin Elvis Presley has died. I mean, they just
jacked into people's network feed. Today, you wouldn't even have to do that, but I remember that
much. He was only 42 years old. Go figure. Okay. What else you got for me? Yeah.
Okay. The third thing is the male domination, men, rural women, obey. And I'm going through that
right now. Now, my father passed away in January. Okay. We're dealing with that. But then
my mother said she's still going to obey her husband even in death. In that, she spent some time
with me and calmy fornup. And she decided to go back to Alabama with some strange family members
because they are male. And so she just feels like she needs to obey men. Even though things are
going well out here. And all the female relatives are like, you know, your daughter's really helping
you a lot and it looked good. But she felt like she needed obey the men and the family. And so now
at this moment, she is back in Alabama and we don't think it's going to go well. But it's the male,
you know, men lead, women follow and women cannot lead. And so my father said it up.
Bless his heart. You know, that means bless his heart. That my brother and my son will take care
of my mother. But I can't because I'm female. That's what we're going through right now.
Is it a Baptist culture? It is worse than that's Church of Christ, which is Baptist on steroids.
Yeah. Yeah. Those guys are hard core. Some of the more intense Church of Christ churches don't
even allow you to play musical instruments in service because this is in a front on to God.
Somehow, I don't understand the Bible's filled with the playing of musical instruments for the
glorification of the father. But the Church of Christ says it's to God and worldly. It's stupid,
stupid, right? Now, I will, I will say that out in California, there's some more liberal. So
Pepperdine has a wonderful church that I actually took my mother to service there before she left
me. And it's beautiful, of course, setting Malibu and really good people, but they had women,
say a prayer, read the Bible and serve communion. And oh boy, oh boy, that's a big no-no back in the
South. It's almost like the Bible was written by men. You know what I'm saying? I mean, it's suspicious
to me. Almost like the rules were put in place by men. Go figure. And you think that, you know,
it just is playing out in real life with the females of the family. And you know, my mother actually
took care of her mother and my father's mother, but my father was there leading them. Well now,
coming out here with me, oh no, there has to be a male leading. So now they're taking her,
you know, all the way across the country again. And she's got, she has a lot of needs that they
don't understand. And I just, she's not getting the proper care that I would have given her, but,
you know, and then I want to say, keep us in your prayers, but I don't believe it. That is
anymore. So I don't know, just in spirit. And do you feel like, I don't know, do you feel like the
women are, do they, are they resentful at all about being like, this is the rule? Well, no, I
think I seem to be the only one standing up to it because, you know, it was kind of my mother's
idea, you know, your, your father wanted me to be with your, your brother and your son, not you
in Kamehornia. And a lot of it had to do with politics too. My dad did not want her to come to
Kamehornia. So that's playing out into a way that's really harmful to her. I don't know, I don't
know if there's anything I can do to fix it. Well, well, it's unfortunate, isn't it, that so many
wonderful voices are being silenced or subdued for really no reason other than just straight-up sexism.
I remember that conversation with my evangelical mother. And she was preaching the word,
trying to convince me to return to the faith. And I, I just said, you know, mom,
second Timothy says that you're not qualified to instruct me in this. And she's like,
and then she's like, well, my Jesus would never silence a woman. And I'm literally pointing
to the New Testament. Look, this is what's a might be silent ask your husbands when you get home.
It ain't my book. It ain't my, what my idea. I'm just showing you what's in it. So I guess it is
true people like to make a Bible or make a religion in their own image. Beyond the troubles you're
having at home with your, you know, religious family, are you doing okay? You hanging in there?
Well, that's what I want to tell you is I'm doing wonderful. You know, I've been out here 10
years in Kami for a year. And I love it. And I have kind of become a California hippie and atheist.
I've done a lot of self-analysis. During the pandemic, I looked at all the things from my whole life
and analyzed it. And that's how I deconstructed my face. And science, oh my god, I studied science.
And going to Hawaii and seeing the volcanoes and, you know, earthquakes and the
senator's fault and, you know, simmity and all of these scientific explanations and why the earth
looks the way it does. There's just so much. And I've got to add all the museums. And I am definitely
way more educated now, way more informed, way more self-aware. And then, but, you know, like you've
talked about before, it's like I try so hard because I am a teacher to educate them. And there
is full of willful ignorance and just reject anything I say.
It is frustrating. You and I have walked some of the same steps. Every day gets to be a discovery
when you're not starting with the answer. And the more we don't know, the more we think we
can know. And then the more we realize, the more we realize we don't know. And every day continues
in that way. And it's okay. You know, I'm not threatened by it. I'm not depressed by it. I
kind of excited about the chance to learn new things. It sounds like you are as well. The
enthusiasm in your voice actually kind of gets me enthusiastic as well. That's really good stuff.
Yeah. So basically, you know, I escape everything. And I basically say, I'm never going back
east of the Mississippi again. I'm staying on this side. And it's just like a different planet.
It really is. I hate that I miss when you came out to California. I admit to go to that, but
I had all this going on. Hopefully you'll return someday. I'll be back. I'll be back. I'll be back.
What part are you in Southern? Are you in Central? We're in Los Angeles. Yeah. And I live right
on the ocean. It's funny. I used to do this sounds really pretentious, but I used to do a tour
of the state over a week. So I'd fly into San Francisco. And then I'd rent a car. And I'd
be I spoke in San Francisco. San Jose LA San Luis Obispo LA Riverside San Diego. And I literally
made a whole week of it. And then I would go home exhausted. So I will be back to the West Coast
eventually. I hope I get a chance to see it end up. Okay. Definitely. And like I said, just
hang in there because there's a lot of us that went from the South over to the West. And you know,
I think there's a way to get a community out. I mean, actually, that's one thing. Once again,
10 years, I moved here not knowing anyone. I want to add one more thing. I moved in with my gay
cousin and his husband because the family has rejected them as well. So we were the black sheep
of the family because we were actually not obeying what they say to do. So and I've been happy and
that's the only people I knew. And now I have hundreds of friends. I'm in a great relationship.
I am very, very happy out here. Your life, your rules. I love it. I just love it. Thanks so much
for calling me today. Have a wonderful afternoon. Okay. You too. Take care. Yeah. And I was
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as we started talking about Chuck Norris and then we've spilled off into all kinds of things. Let's
continue. Somebody in the chat has brought up something that I want to bring up to you
on the 28th Saturday of this month. There are right now more than 3,000 no Kings protest
that are scheduled, not just throughout the United States, but all around the world.
Now the last protest, and I've been at all of them, the last one was in October of last year.
It was the biggest single day protest in the history of this country. There are some people who say
it doesn't make any difference. It's all just parading and grandstanding, empty calorie activism.
I disagree for several reasons. First of all, I think the more of us that are seen,
I think politicians do need to see that, but mostly I don't want history to look back
and not see our faces marching in the street. When all the shit that's going down finally ends,
and when all the Trump banners are dripped down and whenever we take his name off of the
fucking Kennedy Center, etc. And whenever we're picking up the pieces for decades trying to
restore what's left, I want historians to be able to see that there was a public resistance.
I don't give a shit whether or not Trump is going to call us domestic terrorists.
He may make a list. Is he using surveillance cameras? He's going to do what he's going to do and so
are his cronies. But I think history needs to see us out there. And I've just finished my signs.
I mocked them up in Photoshop. Let me see here if I can share this window. Here's side one.
It says uneducated, criminal record, tiny penis, join ice. And it has Adam, I don't know how to
pronounce his last name, ZBG US, his political cartoon showing ice agents who are staring down a tiny
boy and the boy's arms are outstretched in surrender. And then the other one,
if only victims were as protected as the Epstein files. And I've got each image on each side of
a poster board 24 by 36. And those I'm going to take with me to No Kings. I'm going to take a video
camera as well and document the day. Be a part of the No Kings event in your area. No Kings dot
org because we are now looking at an essentially a monarchy. The founding fathers would be losing
their minds if they saw the shit that was going on right now. And I want to be seen. I think you
need to be seen. And I think one of the best parts of No Kings is watching authority figures
being ridiculed and roasted and mocked because they're so desperate to to be taken seriously. Look
at Donald Trump. She's so desperate to be taken seriously. One of the things that makes him
lose his mind beyond being challenged by a woman, right? You've seen the female reporters and he
just goes hard at them and he loses himself. He just biggest sexist pig. He hates ridicule. He
hates not being taken seriously. And I think the mockery of Kings of supposed royalty has great
utility. Defang them. Delegitimize them. Show that you're not afraid of them. Make them a punchline
throughout our history. Many of the artists and the satirists and the comedians, the gestures
of various cultures were on the front lines of revolutions because they were
defanging a lot of the people who were trying to oppress and scare and threaten in a generation.
And so yeah, the signs are going to be amazing. In fact, I'm sure I'll have an entire montage
or a collage of these signs, the No Kings signs as they are done. So homemade your own Photoshop
one. If you want my design for your city, I put them on my Facebook page. Yeah, just grab it.
Save it. Send it off to your printer. You can get it done pretty cheap. I think FedEx
kinkos did mine or sign. I think it signs.com. And you just do a foam board perforated
foam board thing 24x36. You upload your image. You say approved. They ship it to you within a week.
You do have time and go out and then take pictures and video of the protest, whether it's you or
the people you're with or the event that is happening and then share those online. Overwhelm them.
There are concentrated efforts in place to use algorithms to use AI to use really surveillance
technology to call anybody who resists say domestic terrorist and they want us to be afraid of
this. I want to see them overwhelmed. I want to see so many tens and tens and tens of millions.
I mean, we had 1700 protests last October. We got 3000 plus protests after all of the ice
bullshit. After all that is after Iran, right? After as the refineries are burning and the black
rain is falling on Iranians and we've got the straight that is being closed down. We've got gas
prices on the rise. We just hit how many trillions upon how much he added five trillion dollars to
the national debt in a year. People even some magas as thick as they are are starting to look around
gone bullshit. This may not be all that good for America and they are starting to wake up. Now
they're not impressing any of us until they get their ass out in the streets with us, but we are
seeing a lot of people. There's some quiet quitting by magas. They're just slightly removing the
stickers and they're taking the yarn sides down and they're like, I know some people, some examples
in my own mind here in my kind of my zip code of some people and they were hardcore in 2016.
They were whatever in 2024 and now they are literally sitting red faced on their hands. Now they're
a bit quiet for me, but you can tell they're having an ocean moment. I had a conversation just last week
with someone about Trump and they were doing the same thing. Well, he's, you know, I know
it's he done some problematic things that really give me some concerns and I'm going to prove
of everything he's doing. You could see it, right? And I'm just like this. And so I related
several stories. You know what? I'll tell you the stories because they would not mind.
I said, friend of mine, Dr. Ben is a transgender man who served proudly as a qualified physician
in the United States armed forces. By the way, Dr. Ben has often seen broadcasting on his own
channel and on the line, etc. And this administration removed his ability to serve this country despite
the fact that he was admired and respected by his fellow officers was a trained and qualified
physician who had passed every necessary test and was serving his country was removed from his
position and said, if you don't leave the armed forces, we are going to make you pay back all
of the medical data or all the university debt that the armed forces used to fund your education,
which is a lot of what the armed forces does for people. It will go through and you join the
services and then it helps to fund your education. It's kind of a symbiotic relationship. You
served your country. And in some ways, then it will help you to provide the foundation for your life.
Well, it's not threatening to revoke all of the college funding for non-trans people.
But the military, Hegseth, etc., said, you know what? Get out. We will saddle you with six
figured debt that you may never get out of. And so literally pull the rug out from underneath them.
How do you feel about that? Well, I could tell that this evangelical was a bit nervous on the
transgender thing, but I really tried to humanize it. Right? Past all the tests served proudly,
respected by peers. Did everything right? Super qualified. Why couldn't Ben serve his country?
Why not? What's the problem? And then I told this story and I'll tell it to you because it's
already a public story. I said, you know, I've got a friend. Her name is Natasha. Her name is Natasha
Stoynaugh. And about 20 years ago, she was a reporter for People magazine. And she was
interviewing Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago. And while Melania was out, Donald Trump invited her
into a room, wasn't a bedroom. It was like, here, Camira, I want to show you something kind of thing.
And she did. And when she walked into the room, he grabbed her, shoved her against the wall,
put his hand on her breast and shoved his tongue down her throat. Now she fought him off.
She was rattled, trying to compose herself. It was a shock. I think he actually said to her,
you and I are going to have an affair. When she was done, she got out of there and she
told her story. I think it was actually published in People magazine and elsewhere. She was referenced
in the new book by E. Jean Carroll. I think she actually took the stand during the E. Jean
Carroll rape and defamation case. I said, my friend Natasha was sexually assaulted by Donald Trump.
How could you vote for that man? 28 women have come forward, at least 28 women have come forward
with sexual assault and or rape allegations. If this was anybody else, you'd be a guest. How could
you vote for this man? You should have seen her squirm. Well, I wasn't aware of those reports of
that story. I didn't know those things were happening. The story has been out there since 2004.
The allegations have been out there for decades. Donald Trump's own words say that he likes to
sexually assault women. His own words pre 2016. Well, and then I said, name for me one attribute
of Donald Trump that is reflective of the best teachings of Jesus Christ. Give me one. Well,
you know, like, you know, you're right. Totally understand what you're saying. You should have
seen her squirm. I understand. I think she wanted to leave the room, but she didn't. We were having
a conversation that I would like to finish. She could have left at any time, but she was squirming.
This was over lunch. Give me one attribute of Donald Trump that is reflective of the best
teachings of Jesus Christ or biblical morality teaching, if you will. Let me say what you will about
whether or not they're reductive or even helpful, but turn the other cheek. A soft answer turns
away wrath. Don't love money. Don't lust. Don't commit adultery. All right. Blessed are the meek.
Blessed are the least of these. Sell all you have and give to the poor and follow me.
Pride goes before the fall. Don't be proudful. Right. Don't be prideful. Prideful. Don't be prideful.
Sorry. I just made up a word. Don't be proud. Don't be prideful. Yeah. My brain finally
reconciled that. I mean, just went one, two, three, four, five. I said, if you had raised your son
and your son had behaved in the way that Donald Trump behaves on a daily basis for the run of his
79 year life, you would feel like they had totally failed as a son and you would totally failed
as a parent. That may be an overreach. I might have crossed a boundary there when I invoked
her child, but I was trying to make a point. I was trying to personalize Jesus Christ,
how in the world can you have this kind of double standard? If your neighbor, if your neighbor
had 28 separate charges, accusations of sexual assault and or rape, a neighbor,
you would put Constitina wire all around their yard and you would be warning everybody in the
neighborhood to keep away from them. Absolutely. They're dangerous. They're dangerous. You would
alert law enforcement. You might put together a neighborhood watch. You might put cameras so that
you can see their coming is in goings. This person has almost 30 sexual assault allegations against
and said that he likes to grab women by the genitals and he has the hot spurs own daughter,
hashtag, incest, keep your daughters away. Keep your sons away. Keep your wives away. Keep everybody
away. Donald Trump, here's my vote. But she was squirming. Now, she's not going to be at the
No Kings protest, but I guarantee you she left that lunch thinking about all of the very human,
all of the very human and personal stories that I had related no longer was statistic, no longer
the woke lives who hate God. But actual human beings who are suffering the consequences,
right? We yes, why we try to humanize what ice is doing by showing the atrocities,
the murders and the assaults and the kidnappings because once it becomes a human story,
it's a hell of a lot harder for many people to dismiss it. Otherwise, it fits in a tiny box and
they can just move it around however they need to to justify the unjustifiable. I'm just
telling you kind of what happened. So it always comes back to Trump. He makes us do it.
I started with Chuck Norris. We got to Elvis. We always come back to Trump. He, I swear, is there
a day over the last 10 years that that fucker hasn't been enough of a bad influence that we haven't
seen him in the headlines? There's not a news story about him. There's not some fresh outrage
that we have to say. Are you shitting me? Did you see that he has this? You should see the pose
if you haven't. They are making a commemorative United States 250 year gold coin. It's not with an
American flag on it or a member of the founding fathers or the original national motto E Pluribus
Unum or an outline of the 50 states. It is Donald Trump. Donald Trump. And it's his waist-high
figure with two arms going down and he's got that constipated look on his face that's been in
every picture that he he wants published because he's supposed to look strong. It's that
V for Vendetta Adam Sutler look on his face that he has on his mug shot and on his official
presidential photo when hanging off the the Department of Education and the Library of Congress
or wherever that freaking banner is. It's the same pose. He literally looks like he is puckering his
rectum in advance of having the photo or having the image done. It's just and it's going to be
on a coin commemorating our 250th year. This guy he doesn't allow us not to talk about him.
Please, please, what's that mean? There is a blood clot. There's a blood clot somewhere in there.
You know, I'm going to show you one more image. Does this make me petty? Okay, I'm petty.
I'm going to show you something that I had made and I I this is where he has brought me.
Where did I save that?
Is it in my pictures? Open. This is what he has reduced me to.
And then I will bring it here and I will share image.
Present image, share screen, window. Okay, I had this made. This is a wine label.
And I had a a pino and a cab. I ordered them online and you can make your own custom label.
And it has the outline of Donald Trump's head in profile with the burning American flag behind
and the text says open when it happens. I have been brought to the point
where the day I read the headline that the blood clot lodged in his brain and he keeled over.
Or he popped an aneurysm. Or he clutched his heart from a heart attack and breathed his last
and assumed room temperature. There will be an opening of the wine, a toasting of the glasses
and an actual celebration in this house. I have never felt that way about another human being in my life.
And I will do it without shame and without apology. There will be a I'm going to have friends over.
I'm going to call people. He did. Not because he was taken out by somebody. I don't mean
sinister means. I mean, the guy's been eating fucking McDonald's for most of his life. At some
point, the bad cholesterol will kick in, right? He's 79. He's obviously failing. So at some point,
bye bye. Pop the cork. We have a party. There will be music. There will be cake. There might even
be dancing, although my dance looks more like a spasm. I'm not gifted in that way. But I'm just saying
there will be a party at my house when he goes. I guess that's all I've got for you today.
We started with Chuck. We ended with an aneurysm. This is the nature of one of my live streams.
And you get somebody whose mind is sort of a, it's not even a lightning bolt. It's not even
cloud to ground. I feel like I'm taking every streamer on the way down sometimes. Some people enjoy
that. Some people hate it. If you're still with me after all this, I can say as I appreciate it. So
keep on keeping on. Keep your wine bottle handy. Keep your corked celebratory bottle handy
because the day may come and may it be sooner rather than later. In the meantime, I will
up prep next week's broadcast. And I'll see you soon. Take care.
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