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The Epstein story is the one the government insists is finished or doesn't need further investigation.

But some of the most troubling questions were never fully investigated. Now in court documents

made public in 2019, Virginia Goffrey accused former New Mexico governor, US Energy Secretary Bill

Richardson of sexual misconduct tied to Jeffrey Epstein's trafficking network. Richardson denied

these allegations. And then there's Zorro Ranch in New Mexico, Epstein's most mysterious property,

an 8,000 acre compound in a high desert where victims say abuse took place. And yet,

unlike Epstein's home in New York, Palm Beach and the notorious Caribbean island,

Zorro Ranch was never thoroughly searched. Why? Well, today we're connecting the dots with someone

who understands how power and intelligent networks really operate. Robert Aringer once built

Monaco's first intelligence service for Prince Albert II, working with agencies like the CIA,

MI6, along the way he encountered the same elite circles where Jeffrey Epstein moved.

So Robert wrote the book, The Spymaster of Monte Carlo. And today he's sharing what he knows.

So with that being said, it's time to start the show. Let's hit it.

Hi, welcome to another episode of Mysteries Mayhem. Amber Lowe, I'm your host, Winnie Schrader.

Well, tonight I wanted to get a guest on. I love the whole espionage, James Bond, Mission Impossible,

all the, you know, secret operatives, that kind of stuff. And you know, like with this whole Epstein

issue, there has to be some type of intelligence group that is working all this out to stay under

the radar. And I figured, why not get a guest who is an expert on how these, these networks of

people operate. And I got author Robert Aringer on who wrote the book, The Spymaster of Monte Carlo,

he was the one who built the first intelligence service for Prince Albert II. So obviously,

he knows what he's talking about. And he knows the inner workings of how these, how the,

how these people stay underground and work these networks to, to obtain the goal that they want now.

And the Epstein case is obviously to keep people, you know, hidden the secret society they had.

I don't even know. I mean, the Epstein files, it just, it gets more shocking, the more stuff comes out.

But I wanted to welcome Robert to the show. So welcome to the show, Robert.

Thank you, Winnie. And thank you for having me.

Yeah. So the book The Spymaster of Monte Carlo, you obviously, so you put a whole intelligence

agency together for the Prince of Monaco. Did Monaco not have any type of, of agency that protected

the monarchy at all or? Monaco did not have an intelligence service. It had merely a, a police

department. And inside the police department were three men who ran a political units, who I ended

up working with once I went to work for Albert, but that you wouldn't consider them. They were doing

local intelligence, I would say, but not the kind of intelligence Albert needed and why he retained

me in June of 2002 to first be his intelligence advisor and keep him informed about certain things.

And then later when he ascended the throne, and that wasn't until April 2005, after his father

Prince Rainier passed away, so that he, at that point, I had the green light to create the

Monaco intelligence service, which was still unofficial, because we wanted, we did not want to be

part of the government structure. Albert wanted me to report only to him and be outside the workings

of Monaco's government. Was he, was he, did he feel kind of paranoid by the, I guess, behind

the monarchy, was he afraid that people that want him at the head of throne or, I mean, did he feel

no, he had no fears like that, although he, he should have, because there were things going on

at the time that might have circumvented his, his ascension to the throne. But no, he was perfectly

relaxed, but, but was concerned in two particular areas. One, there had been a Russian surge into

the French Riviera, which includes Monaco at that time, and, and he was concerned that it would,

it would attach itself to Monaco. They had mostly been along the French Riviera in, in Nice and

Con, hadn't quite gotten to Monaco yet, but concerned him. He also had concerns about the kind of

people who were trying to barge their way into his inner circle, his orbit. Everybody in Monaco

plays a game called who can brown their nose the deepest. And everybody wants to be Prince

Albert's friend. There are so many people who call themselves Prince Albert's best friend. And

he's constantly fighting him off. So, when a newcomer would come along, especially from some

country elsewhere, he, he felt he should know more about them. And that was his second main reason

for bringing me in. Okay. Yeah, because you always think of Monaco, you always think of this kind of

exotic kind of, not tropical, but just, you know, that a brilliant, it's like glamorous nightlife

elegant, you know, and you always think of seeing it in spy movies. They're always playing

back rack. James Bond movies, especially, yeah, features, features heavily. And of all the

micro-states of Europe, none of which had, I discovered, their own intelligence service,

like Monaco. They were dependent on other countries. But it's, it's where the Russians and others

up to no good money laundering mostly would want to be, as opposed to, say, Lichtenstein or Endora

or Luxembourg, which aren't quite as glamorous nor have the amenities and the fine weather that

Monaco enjoys. Okay. Yeah, it doesn't seem like it's a bad job location to be at. I could tell you

that. I enjoyed it. I've been there before. And I kept a safe house there, which is where we had

all of our meetings where Albert would be briefed and where when we had visiting members of other

intelligence services would meet. And it's also, I used it as a place to sleep when I was in Monaco.

I actually lived in London at the time and commuted back and forth between London and Monaco.

Sometimes on a weekly basis, specifically because Albert wanted me as invisible as possible.

He didn't want the government to know about the existence of his intelligence advisor. And even

later, his own intelligence service. Wow. So I mean, okay. So you're setting up this intelligence

agency basically under the radar because he doesn't, well, what was the reason he did not want

the Monaco government to know of his intelligence agency that he had protecting him? And

because they wouldn't want him to have an intelligence agency. They wouldn't want him to have an

intelligence advisor. They wanted him to rely only on what they told him about what was going on.

And in fact, even before I entered the picture, nobody was telling him anything. He was just the

hereditary prince. Even his own father, who was unwell his last few years, didn't really keep him

in contact. Yet here was Albert flying to all parts of the world for stately occasions and

knowing a little about the leaders of such countries that he was meeting. I was able to provide

him briefings so that he knew what he was walking into from that point onward.

Oh, okay. So you're kind of like his go-to person for all things, for information, for security,

for now, with that being said, was he using your talents and capabilities to help him

find out information within the workings of the government that they were trying to keep from him?

Well, yeah, no, good question. That came later. In an area I really should never have gotten

involved in because primarily I was foreign intelligence and that is who's coming from foreign

countries. Where's he going that he needs to be briefed about? I got into the inner workings of

Monaco's government after he ascended the throne and began vetting people who would continue to

remain in government and also people who would help him run the palace. And that is when we ran

into a lot of corruption and found out exactly why Albert always wanted us to be outside the

government system reporting only to him because we found that they were terribly corrupt.

And he wanted to do something about it, which is why I know that say the third reason he brought me in

initially was to help him clean up the principality. He determined that once he became the monarch

that he would introduce and he used this line at his investiture, a new ethic to Monaco.

And to do that properly he needed to have the kind of information about who was

rotten, who was dirty in Monaco that needed to be got rid of.

Wow, that's scary to think that somebody who is, you know, I know a lot of times now it's like

monarchies are just more like figureheads than anything because you know like with the British

monarchy you have parliaments, you know, they pretty much control what happens, you know,

so everyone thinks they're just kind of fearless but he really wanted to be involved with the

workings of the government but obviously they were kind of put a fork in that.

Well, he thought he did and the constitution allows him to do that. In fact Monaco is one of the

last remaining absolute monarchies in the world. I don't think Albert ever understood the power

that he had and instead relied on the government who unfortunately continues to this day to run

circles around him. That came up later when we were doing corruption and after we got into it and

discovered that Monaco is very corrupt indeed, Albert took a step back and decided well maybe it

wasn't such a good idea to try to clean things up. That is why I eventually ended my work for Albert

after five and a half years because it turned out in the end he didn't have the backbone

to stand up to the corruption and clean it up like he said he would.

So with you going through and vetting and finding all this information, especially

within the corruption of the government, was there stuff that you were pretty shocked by

that you came across or was it kind of the typical political corruption wheel that we see on a

day-to-day basis? It reached a point it was so shocking it just became amusing. It became funny because

just when you thought you'd heard it all then there was something else coming along. You have to

remember Monaco is a rather intriguing place not just because of being featured in James Bond

movies and being glamorous but you have nationalities from over a hundred countries who live

in what is the most expensive place in the world to own real estate and you had a confidential

and still do a confidential banking system that they all those who were up to no good wanting to

wander their money clamor to be part of as a way of laundering money. So you had all of this

intrigue going on and everybody from everywhere who had loads and loads of money that needed

laundering hanging out there living there part of the year trying to become residents trying to

join the princes orbit it was it was fascinating I really enjoyed the whole experience.

Wow yeah I mean I mean your life itself kind of plays like a Bond movie. I mean think about it I

mean it's just you know trying to find the corruption and get rid of it but you can't because

people there's so it's everybody so intertwined with each other it's hard to you know upset the

apple card that's amazing and it's all that you the stuff you were finding wow. Again especially

with Monaco so closely knit the Monagasks who live in Monaco are outnumbered by about seven to

one by everybody else who lives there in fact there are more Italians who live in Monaco than

Monagasks the Monagasks themselves are very tightly knit which which was part of the problem when it

came to trying to clean up the corruption because here we were reporting to Albert that some of

his closest advisors his own personal lawyer and the palace accountant and various ministers

running the the ministries were all very corrupt and yet these were people that Albert knew from

when he was a little boy and went to school with and I think that ultimately what happened is

after listening to his talk about cleaning it up and realizing that he really meant it especially

when word eventually got out that he had a little his own little intelligence service that was

getting to the bottom of everything you can imagine they they went to him and they said Albert don't

you get it this is this is how we do things in Monaco this is this is how we make money this is

our bread and butter and you're doing what you're doing you're messing with our rice bowls so

please stop desist and he listened and then he drifted away from from our influence and what we

were doing even though by this time I'd created liaison relationships with 20 different foreign

intelligence agencies including our own CIA and the British MI6 the French DST the Italians

cis me they're foreign intelligence service they they would come to Monaco at 48 hours notice

to brief Prince Albert and me on any topic that he wanted to know more about and unfortunately

taking the action that he did stepping away from cleaning the place up is he walked away from all

of those relationships oh wow that's kind of sad to think that it was just like easier for him

just to stick with the status quo than to actually make some positive changes for the country

and the reason for that was not just because corruption had always been a way of life in Monaco

but he Albert himself had no backbone he has no backbone he was never truly interested I discovered

in the fairs of state more interested in just having affairs his his his social life his personal life

always came first and it seemed like even when he was sitting in his intelligence briefings

learning awesome things from very senior officials from intelligence services it looked like his

mind was on whatever his date was going to be that night not taking the job seriously apparently

well and yet the first indication of that was after his father passed away and Albert ascended the throne

he didn't stand up and take charge he didn't I don't think he knew quite what to do even though

I and a few others who were I consider the good guys around him were saying look you've got to

you got to make your move now and consolidate your power and let everybody else know you're in charge

instead he chose to abide by or at least his rationale was well I have to go through a six-month

morning period which for him meant hanging out at the family farm in the the Alps behind Monaco

on in in France and importing a sea sand in for his volleyball court

he just did take his he didn't take his new role seriously he didn't know how to stand up to

anybody he's a very shy man and and it explains partly his stutter that's always plagued him

and he he avoids confrontation so he won't he won't call somebody in and have it out with them

it just very just very laxed asical with no backbone when it came to exerting power which is

position allowed for it yeah you kind of you have to have some type of backbone to to take

leadership especially doing things that you not everybody likes but you're going to do it because

it's the right thing to do and yeah obviously he feels short and that when it came to his leadership

skills yes now he just falls into that puddle of corruption like everybody else sadly that's exactly

what happened he for instance he appointed to be the head of the judiciary the justice

well what the equivalent of what we call the attorney general justice minister even though we

determine that that individual was very very corrupt and he was already a senior judge

and he was already ahead of Monaco's red cross where he which he appeared to be stealing from

and we briefed Albert we investigated it and even the the fall unit I mentioned in Monaco's

police department was in on this and and we I practically pled with him not to make that

appointment I told him if he did it would one day come back to hunt him and it would be it would

be very bad for his legacy sure enough Albert went ahead and made him the justice minister of Monaco

and about 10 years later the French media exposed that person for rampant corruption

and he had to resign or be fired but he resigned first in disgrace and Albert was made to look

the fool that he was forever having hired him in the first place

god yeah you should listen don't you hate it when you have to say I told you so

well you know you could only you know what they say you can you can bring a horse to water

you can't make it drink it was our job to make sure that Albert was as well informed as he could

possibly be and we did a quite amazing job on a shoe string of a budget to make him extremely

well informed but finally given the information he needed to crack down on the persons in Monaco

who should have been cracked down on or who shouldn't have been appointed to very very significant

positions in Monaco's government he fell far short and shot himself in the foot to a point

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affairs and you know his social life was so important and you know with you obviously having to

vet a lot of the people that are coming in and out of his life how like how did that play out and

how did like how did that tie him with this whole Epstein circles I mean was he was he listed it

in any of the documents or was it just kind of associated by people they all knew no no no it almost

surprises me that Albert has never been named in any any of the Epstein files his is never

cupped and that surprised me because he would have been very ripe for the kind of thing Epstein was

up to what was revealing to me later on of course but early on when I when I saw it was

was how how Andrew formerly Prince Andrew was Albert's closest contact and friend in the

British Royal family and the reason for that we all knew at the time was because of their

mutual interest in women and and let's face it Andrew was known for years and years for decades

by the satirical fortnightly private eye as Randy Andy that was his nickname long before Americans

knew about him and Epstein he was Randy Andy to the British public Albert fits into that same

paradigm of of bachelor's Albert was a bachelor at the time that I was working for him who who enjoyed

let's show we say the interviewing process for princess okay so he just like to he just like to

have I armed candy on when he had big events and things like that and just he would just go

through women like crazy or I'd say go through women like crazy not necessarily bring them out to

the various gallows of the of Monaco but yes women like crazy okay and it was did he ever like Mary

I know much about Prince Albert other than that he his behavior seemed very much like Prince Andrew

well former former Prince Andrew he got his title strip from and for good measure because

that guy is something else so yeah you finally got married it was after I was working for him

he's still married although as far as I understand it the the marriages a bit of a sham I don't know

if that's true it's only what I've heard I don't really pay a lot of attention to Monaco anymore

I did in fact writing this book was kind of the cathartic exercise of once and for all be done

with with everything to do with Monaco but yes he did get married he does have twins a boy and a girl

so he's got an heir who will succeed him one day and and it's a it's perhaps in a strange

to marriage oh okay so yeah it's kind of just a marriage a name only type thing and seems to be the

case but like I said I don't keep track of it so much anymore and that's more of a gossipy thing

than it is the kind with the kind of substance that we were dealing with when I was working for him

okay so now the people that have been surround that would surround themselves around

for itself but when you were working there now did you come across anything of like

like the Epstein stuff the illegal activity geared I don't even know what to call I mean a sex

trafficking a human trafficking but it's I don't even know what to call what I mean it's just

disgusting what yeah no no here I yeah I think I understand your question and yes in passing

because of concern to me was Albert's security so for instance if you were to visit Russia

one would have to assume that his hotel room would be bugged and whatever he was doing with

women or men would be recorded possibly with a view to one day leveraging him into making a favorable

decision their way and it alarmed me when I'd heard that Alba that a so-called friend of

Albert's member of the name of Gocha Adavati not from Russia from Georgia the Republic of

Georgia which used to be part of the Soviet Union but he lived in Moscow, New Putin rented out

a whole brothel in Moscow for Albert and his friends to celebrate his birthday

that was a 2004 2005 and that concerned me because I had been cautioning him about even just

you know being on a trip in Russia and whatever he was doing some stately affair of just

not doing anything in his hotel room that he'd want to come back and haunt him because it would

almost 100% be taped so that that was that was fairly alarming and then there was

another place that I understood he used to go to an eyes-white shut kind of place in a town

by it called Stankajiano outside of Florence owned by Gocha again the the same man from Georgia

secretly he didn't want to have it in his name because he was trying to escape from taxes in

Russia but it was it was his and I visited the place to check it out to see what it was all about

and it was all filled with erotica that remind me completely of Stanley Kubrick's movie Eyes White

Shut and then lo and behold I then began hearing whispers about yeah this Albert's been here and

this is where a lot of these folks come for orgies and so on and then I heard other things and

this is hearsay I'm not saying it is fact but I'd heard that that many many women that there was

a modeling agency in Paris that recruited women even underage women especially to go down for these

porties who grows I know I don't understand how why these people in these elite positions you know

people that are part of a monarchy or presidents or leaders of countries they're so into this

weird underground sex trafficking stuff it's just bizarre to me that it seems like there's this

commonality between being like this elite person and then doing these weird group sex things that

I just don't understand and looking at Prince Albert's self because I was you know going through

news articles I'm just like yeah like you said it's very much like Stanley Kubrick's Eyes White

Shut movie is like the secret society that it's hidden there's like secret passwords and here's

why here's why I'll explain it to you and it's not necessarily a power elite thing it's a

celebrity thing and and I'll explain that in that when you can when when if you're Prince Albert

and you can have sex pretty much all the time with any woman you want and they're all throwing

themselves at you on the basis some of them believe that they there they may be the next princess

of Monaco the threshold for excitement grows ever higher so that if you're in that category where

you're an a-list Hollywood star or you're a member of a royal family like Andrew or Albert just

playing ordinary sex doesn't do it anymore and then you get into other stuff and then you get

into kinkier stuff and then you get into even kinkier stuff and the threshold keeps rising

the more free sex is for you the easier it is to get and that would be why what you're muddling

with the power elite it's more of a celebrity thing celebrities who never have a problem

getting a date and having sex yeah that's just it's I find it just interesting how it's just the

correlation between you know these type of people and the things that they do and you see it across

the board and it like it's coming on the obscene files who's been involved I mean these top top people

and it's just like oh god why are some of the stuff that it's in those documents I'm like oh my god

that's so bizarre and to know that you know I mean like it's it's very common I guess I mean you

see it a lot and you know you having kind of first-hand account with Prince Albert being his

bright-hand man for what five years to study work for five and a half years yeah I mean I

can't imagine it was frustrating for me because well I was trying my best to keep him in form but

also keep him out of trouble but I think he just he didn't care he threw caution of the wind

and just did what he whatever he wanted to do and interesting I see that this partly is about

the Epstein files in Zoro Ranch Zoro Ranch Epstein's plate branch out into Mexico is also

an eyes wide shut kind of place to my thinking and why it is not been investigated

till now boggles the mind because while you had Little St. James the island in the Caribbean

and his New York townhouse and his Palm Beach home rated investigated search everything

taken away as far as I can tell nobody's ever nobody's touched Zoro Ranch and and now

what almost seven years after he I'll say murdered because I don't believe that he was a suicide

only now are they finally is New Mexico under pressure the state of New Mexico the legislature

has decided that they should go in and search the grounds not least because out of the Epstein

files came an email that was a tip off to the FBI that two foreign young women who were at Zoro

Ranch are buried nearby now that was 2019 I don't know well one can guess as to why the FBI didn't

investigate I have my own suspicions I'll tell you what they are you had a couple things going on

one newsweek is reporting today that the DOJ in 2019 quashed an investigation in Zoro Ranch

maybe true because the way I heard it and I believe it's true is New Mexico state police were

investigating and the DOJ demanded to take over the investigation and give it to the FBI

and it's and the New Mexico state police objected to that and instead of handing it over to the

FBI they closed it down well why why did they close it down I can only put it down to the fact that

former New Mexico governor Bill Richardson was one of those accused by Virginia Gufre the lady

who accused the man who used to be a prince Andrew of having sex with her when he was seven when

she was only 17 she said it was the same with Bill Richardson that she was she was Ed Zoro Ranch

and Bill Richardson had sex with her when she was only 17 okay well all right Bill Richardson

wasn't governor in 2019 he'd already served as two terms up but you can imagine he had an awful

lot of influence in New Mexico still he denied the allegation by the way but so did Andrew and

Andrew now looks like a total jerk for for all of his denials nobody believes him anymore and

everybody's for a hundred percent convinced that Virginia Gufre was telling the truth so if she

was telling the truth about Andrew she was probably also telling the truth about Bill Richardson

why make it up why lie and he he he he he's gone now as I said he died at a kind of a young age

he was only 72 or 73 at his at his summer home in Chad of Massachusetts of what has only been

described ever in the media as natural causes and I'm not quite I nobody knows why beyond quote

unquote natural causes Bill Richardson died I call it a slightly suspicious death and I'm not a

paranoid sort of things everybody's been murdered but I find it odd I also know that he probably

understood himself that his legacy was in ashes and deserved to be because because I piece things

together certain dipitously but I happen to be in Santa Fe New Mexico in May of 2023 a few months

before Bill Richardson died then I'm talking to the bartender the the really nice hotel they're

called the Anasazi hotel probably the nicest one in Santa Fe nice bar talking to the bartender

so Bill Richardson comes in here and drinks all the time I said oh cool what's he like I had no

interest I'd never really was interested in the Epstein files very much before so I wasn't there

as an investigative reporter just happened to be staying there drinking there and he's oh well he

you know he drinks too much he comes in and he has too much to drink and he's very argumentative

with other customers and I set me thinking here's the guy who knew his legacy was in tatters

the dig was up the truth was going to come out eventually and although he may have done all

he could to suppress it including possibly ensuring that Zoro Ranch was never investigated as it

should have been and then I was just a few months later I don't know maybe it was from drinking too

much but he was not a he was not a happy man in the end he knew what he'd done I think and he

knew it was going to come out eventually or rather it had come out he knew that eventually down

the road his denials would would fall on hollow ears yeah well and yeah I maybe he was just kind

of carrying that guilt and realized man we screwed up big time you know seems to me seems to me

that would be the case yeah yeah and yeah did not have that place fully investigated right away

seems bizarre and it's like okay who who's gonna benefit from that this place not being

investigated right away who's gonna benefit from you know things not still being left under the

rug and absolutely and now it may have been the worst place of all of his places because now the

witness witness testimonies are coming out from the Epstein files suggesting not only the

possibility of dead bodies but but human experiments with with women being experimented on

nested ties and put out and and being experimented their reproductive organs perhaps messed with

that's that's what's now being suggested and in fact only it was today big news today is that

the New Mexico authorities did raid Zoro Ranch today to search now when I say raid the current owner

of the ranch had been waiting to hear from them he wasn't standing in the way he had just been waiting

to hear from them today he heard from them they're there perhaps as we speak searching the the

ranch and the grounds wow okay so a new owner owns the property I so I'm assuming he's just like

been waiting for the FBI to eventually call well yeah well it was he wasn't wait nobody'd ever

contacted before a few weeks ago when the new Mexico legislature said well we we're gonna

investigate Zoro Ranch and then two weeks after that someone in the media asked him about it he said

yeah they're welcome but I haven't heard from them so it took a while but apparently they're on

the job lock lock can get hidden in six years who knows what's been cleaned up but then again

who who was around to clean it up after Epstein died maybe a crew went in but but it's let's

leaving it a little late I they should have been there in 2019 to my thinking well yeah one

source allegations came out that somebody was sexually assaulted and absolutely abuse so what

was going on it seems to me it seems to me for one reason or another whether it was Washington or

whether it was Santa Fe the investigation in Zoro Ranch got quashed in 2019 yeah and it was

probably you know for a reason to protect some people or I'll pry a lot of people who knows

well I mean people involved with that place and when you think about it there must be I mean there

should be I should be picking up evidence on various male members of the power lead who part

took in these things the only person who's ever gone to prison so far is a female who who

helped orchestrate the whole thing for Epstein Gilane Maxwell she's the only one in prison what about

the men who were doing these things to underage women that's what needs to come out

and they need to be investigated and prosecuted and have found guilty put in prison

right yeah because I mean a lot of the accounts that are coming out especially

from this Zoro Ranch is a lot of underage girls were involved in the in the activities there at

that place and that's for them to not investigate that back at 2019 is bizarre especially when they

when they went through all of his other properties and Zoro Ranch was probably the most

diabolical all of his places yeah he knew he had the protection of the governor who he was

friends with and he was way out there way out there at the desert and nobody could escape there

it would be impossible for somebody to do it once once these women show up they're there they're

practically prisoners of the place they're not gonna leave they can't

that's crazy to think that and what experiments would they be doing on women there I mean it's

not like he's a doctor or anything like what is happening what

I hope they'll find out but there are rooms in his place that photographs have emerged from

the Epstein files of medical clinic clinical medical type facilities so very scary stuff

yeah it sounds like it like what are they doing with that stuff and what are they doing to these

women and I hope I mean I hope more people can you know get the word out of what happened to them

if they are victims of this whole Epstein circles because it's it's shocking what has been coming

out and know that it's just more and more and now we have this whole Zoro Ranch I never even heard

of the Zoro Ranch until of recent a new stuff and to know that it wasn't investigated properly

or at all nobody was asking the questions that needed to be asked at the time which would have

been more important but I hope they can at least find something tangible yeah we could at least

put more people behind bars that belong there instead of just one person absolutely I mean the

sad part is there were a lot of a lot of people who came forward now according to the Epstein

and just weren't taken seriously or ignored the the powers that be did not want to know

and it seems like the only time they any anybody in politics would want to know was for political

reasons oh what can I use from that against my opponent that that was really their only interest

not not justice to my thinking now you have people in in Congress like Nancy Mase who who are

very dedicated to getting the truth out you know let the chips fall where they may it doesn't matter

it's not a republican thing it's not a democrat thing whoever is culpable should be investigated

and prosecuted right yeah it's justice justice does take a and no and nobody should be

using it for political reasons it should only be for justice yeah yeah because it's you know

the victims of of this whole orchestrated fiasco that is the Epstein files they need justice like

you know I can't imagine being a young girl and putting the putting having been put in those

positions and a lot of their parents were very it seemed like a lot of their parents were all

full gun hole for their their daughters to be hanging out with these elite politicians and

yeah it's a mistake parents make they think okay maybe I'll marry my daughter off to some

very wealthy person well that very wealthy person doesn't want to get married to them we're

giving money they just want to use them like a toy yeah yeah and it's it's sad it's very sad and

you know despicable yeah you know that you had to keep somebody from hey you had to babysit a

prince basically to keep him from falling into these types of behaviors that you're not we know

see unraveling in these documents of Jeffrey Epstein and you know I mean luckily nothing came

about Prince Albert being tied to any of those things because I would not want to be his PR

person if he was tied to anything with the underage stuff with Epstein that would have been a

nightmare to have to handle yeah no I'm surprised Andrew never introduced him to those circles but

then again Andrew liked it for himself perhaps um don't want to share yeah because they just stay

him and Albert kind of their behavior kind of mirrored each other a bit yes well in the public

eye what from what he can get from well I public and private well what we're discovering what we're

discovering about Andrew now is in the private eye too and for me my insider look at Albert and how

he was only really interested in his social life shall we say uh rather than affairs of state

that yes it's not just in the the public persona that's what they're really like

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tonight's a pair now now after you've left uh Monaco and and left uh your service as uh Prince

Albert's uh basically main guy uh how did things how did things go after you left where some of

the things that you implemented stay that way or did everything just kind of dismantle and it's

kind of back to the way it was beforehand when in fact it was going back the way it was it was clear

to me that Albert had lost interest in being informed uh lost interest in his intelligence service

had lost interest in being briefed by other intelligence services the government had discovered

the our existence and and was battering him to end it they didn't want him to have an intelligence

service all this was going on and I could see was getting kind of dangerous for me to be there um

I I was invisible for for for most of the five and a half years I worked for Albert with that last

six months I was they knew they knew my name they didn't know my face and it got dangerous I think

and I thought there's no point me sticking around here anymore a it's dangerous and b he's he's

not part of the program he doesn't really want to know so I disassembled my intelligence service

let all of our various liaison partners know and took all my files and um and moved back to the

United States wow and then things started to get really bad there and have been getting worse and

worse ever since no no you should have listened hey that's what I you know you always listen to your

master you know it's like me I always listen wax on wax off you may not understand it now Albert but

eventually you know and yeah and he's just it's crazy to think that

that you had to go in and put in an infrastructure of some type of intelligence agency to weed out what

you'll find it out and come to find out that it's kind of like this is how things are here and it's

like oh my gosh the moral compass that you had going into this is now spinning out of control

because what do you do because your whole purpose of what you were doing was trying to clean everything

up and actually said that to him yeah I mean I could always tell with Albert it was like whoever

he last talked to was what he had programmed in his brain so after we were making some progress

for a while but then at some point he said to me but that's always been the way of life here when

we were talking about some something to do with corruption in one of his ministers that's the way

of life and I know that phrase got beat into his head by whoever he just talked to the day before

the night before and I said yes Albert isn't but isn't that what it was you wanted to change

he didn't have he didn't have an answer it was like you mean to tell me you didn't realize before

that this is what Monaco was all about well you must have realized it because you actually made

a point of saying at your investiture that you were going to change it that you were going to

clean up your principality and introduce what you called a new ethic right otherwise you end up

in the Epstein files well love you for him he didn't but but yes but but he's he's it hasn't been

good for him it's been a rough ride because I turned out like like I pointed out to him 20 years ago

his palace accountant was corrupt and his personal or it was corrupt and what happens a couple

years ago they get exposed in the French media for being corrupt and the accountant was actually

escorted out of his job at the palace by the Caribbean area and now is considered disgraced in all

kinds of lawsuits with Monaco and Albert at the moment it's a total mess yes Albert should have

listened okay we knew what we were we knew what we were doing we knew what we knew we knew what

we were talking about he should have taken the advice of his intelligence service and dealt with

all of the rubbish and the corruption when he had the chance 20 years ago and he'd probably be

looked upon very differently today than he actually is he's he's I I believe he's looked upon as a

failure and his legacy will be quite horrible because he's done all the wrong things right right

yeah he's definitely gonna be singing a shudda kudda what is because yeah it's the turn that the

road that he totally took is what we're is being exposed on a day-to-day basis that corruption

that just this underground underbelly being untrustworthy and it's from little things to

having little affairs and and stuff like that to these large mass you know things of money laundering

cartels and sex trafficking and it's just you know to clean it up I mean that that that seemed like

it was probably a very honorable job for you to do and to find out that that's not the way it's

going that had to been hard for you to handle and I don't believe me for wanting to just walk away

because there's no point I mean the only point I could have I could have gotten very wealthy if I

chosen to be corrupt as well and remain in my job the going right for organizing a lunch if

somebody wanted to have lunch with Albert they would be willing to pay 50,000 euros and at least

one of his close palace associates of court here was indulging in that kind of money to get Albert

to attend somebody's yacht party or to attend another party or to or to have lunch or dinner I could

I had cash offers like that I it would be anathema to me to ever accept anything like that I in fact

because I was there to do exactly the opposite I was there to clean up the trash around Monaco

and stop that sort of thing from happening but that's what everybody else was doing and

and Albert ultimately became corrupt himself and I could give you the perfect example of that

something he did that set the absolute wrong example to all of his ministers and everybody else

around him and that is he accepted a bribe from Vladimir Putin Vladimir Putin of Russia he was

president at the time of course he went back and forth his little charade of staying in charge from

president to prime minister and back again that time it was president and he wanted the

Olympics the Winter Olympics to be in Sochi in 2014 well Albert is sits on the

has since the 1980s he sits on the the International Olympic Committee and that's the committee

that votes on where where Olympic events should be held so Albert is Putin throws a state dinner for

Albert in coordination with Albert's expedition of the North Pole that happened in 2005

it might have been 2006 and at this state dinner Putin offers Albert a gift what kind of gift

a whole house a dacha how would you like how would you like a dacha dacha is a traditional summer

house that elite Russians have out in the country and they leave Moscow to go to their dacha on the

weekends so can we he said can we build one for you on the palace grounds Albert said well there's

no room but how about if you build it at rock a gel which is the Ramallah family farm high up in

the mountains I mentioned it earlier where Albert escaped to when he should have been in Monaco

working after his father passed and went up there to play volleyball well that's the family farm

so he said well you can build it there so what happens a whole team of Russian construction

workers show up and build him a dacha on the grounds of rock a gel from scratch well for a stark

you can you can imagine that it's it's wired to the gills to the rafters with all kinds of

recording equipment but you never find that's number one number two is it is against the IOC's

code of ethics for one of its members to accept a gift from a leader of a country or anyone that's

in contention for Olympic an Olympic venue so Albert was oblivious to it he probably didn't even

know there was such a thing as the code of ethics and he's not a personally greedy guy

it's not like he just wanted to accumulate stuff gifts or money or anything else he has enough of

it he was just stupid okay it was just a really dumb thing to do here you are you accept this very

lavish gift and you don't report it of course because you don't even know that you you're supposed to

and and it's in contravention of the IOC so in that sense Albert became corrupt himself and

everybody who learned of this dacha goes okay well even Albert is is is taking bribes so I guess

it's okay again we're not being cracked down at all in fact corruption increased not decreased

wow and to give somebody a house that's oh what what do you mean I didn't have to tell anybody

he gifted me that oh who are you get upset where did you want the Olympics brush off so when

you ask me when you ask me if anything surprise me well that that was kind of a surprise but

after that nothing surprised me and the brothel and the brothel in ma in in Moscow rented out for

for his birthday it's how can you be surprised after after a couple of those bright yeah it's just

it's like oh my gosh you just go going through the paper you're just like oh geez it's just

getting worse as we go through oh my god I can't imagine it's it's almost a good thing I suppose

I could have written this book soon after I left Albert's employee at the end of 2007 but

it actually in hindsight made a lot more sense to finally write it now because of all that's

happened since and how that my own role in Monaco has been largely vindicated when I first I was

a little public when I first got out because I was a little unhappy that Mon that Albert had turned

his back on his promises to do certain things to clean things up so I made some noise about it

and their reaction in Monaco was who who we don't know who what are you talking about he didn't

he didn't do what he claims to do they tried to discredit me um and okay fine that's the game you

want to play we played that game for a bit uh it's clear they know they know um and it I guess

nobody understood quite the extent of my operations number one and two that I actually retained all

my files yeah and then everything that I was saying back then a few years later everybody in the

French media who were stretching their heads wondering how I could know these things and they

couldn't possibly be true are going man if you go back and read what he was saying and read what

he wrote back then it's all come true right and it has well that was a that was a great time to put

the book out yeah was the book the spy master of Monte Carlo tales of royalty espionage and betrayal

I'll have a link for that in today's description I highly recommend it and if you guys buy the book

and read it rate and review it online wherever you buy your book it helps those books get seed more

you know when people are searching up specific topics those will pop up right away um I can't wait

to dig into it myself because I love these kind of stories and and to know that it just how all

these it ties into reality that we're dealing with today and you know with the whole Epstein files

all that kind of how these elite people think they can just get away with murder uh with money

laundering with corruption and fraud is beyond me but your book kind of sheds a light on that

and to say you know this is how they just get away with it and people like you uh Robert you have

this moral uh compass and when that compass is getting interrupted what do you do well you did

the right thing you walked away and now exposing kind of the the craft that you had to deal with and

I'm sure that's where all governments fault isn't that kind of saying corrupted vain and you know

money money talks and and you know so does sex apparently with these these people because they

are like some kinky stuff it's some weird stuff I'm not gonna lie um but yeah the book again the

spymaster of money carlo don't do you have a website or anything that people can go to I do

is an independent journalist I operate on substack so it's robberdarenger.substack.com and I

post early every day on monaco but also on other topics including zoro ranch and the Epstein files

and and some fiction as well I've written some spy fiction based on operations and adventures

that happen but I could never talk about so you have to put them through a meat grinder and turn

it into a novel instead yeah I know it's but the hey with every great fiction story there's

there's always a bit of truth in it and I love that and I even love true crime fiction stories because

I know there's a little bit of truth in everything so it's just kind of nice to get out of that

kind of factual narrative and kind of make it colorful I think it helps the reader kind of really

grasp uh what the the case is about or what are you actually trying to get across in the book

because it kind of puts them into that into the into the crime scene and the you know the story itself

so I like I like fictional true crime stuff and stuff like that so I think it's it's a perfect

blend of facts and fiction uh so go check it out and I'll put a link for your substack along with

the link to buy your book uh again in the description no it's thank you so much for your time

today Robert and thank you all and I hope to see you all next week thank you for having me

when it's been a pleasure thank you for joining for another episode of mysteries mayhem and merlot

and until our next case my armchair detectives stay safe stay there to win and stay aware

I'll see you right here next week on mysteries mayhem and merlot

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