The Epstein Documents: FBI Interview Memo Describes Massage Allegation During Trump Call (3/11/26)

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What's up everyone and welcome to another episode

of the Epstein Chronicles.

Leading up to the election of 2024,

all we heard from multiple people

within the Trump administration

was how they were going to release

the Jeffrey Epstein files on day number one

of them taking office.

And it's not like it was just some off-hand remark.

It was said multiple times by multiple people

while on the campaign trail they campaigned on it

and not only that, but Trump himself said

that he was going to release the files multiple times.

Then they get into power and they start their whole

entire song and dance with the binders

and how they're working to get all of this stuff ready

for release.

Then comes July and we get the memo.

And according to that memo, all of a sudden

there's nothing left to see here.

There is nobody left to investigate.

Oh, and by the way, Jeffrey Epstein was just a sick pervert

who was acting on his own.

And at the time, people were very confused, right?

Like why the hell would Donald Trump

who says that he's going to release all this stuff

while on the campaign trail, walk all of it back now

and be so adamant that he's not going to release it.

And if that wasn't bad enough,

Donald Trump became hostile to anybody

who wanted transparency.

So of course, people had questions.

What's Donald Trump so worried about?

Why doesn't Donald Trump want to release these files?

Well, I think we know now.

And look, I'm not going to sit here and tell you

there's some smoking gun that points to Donald Trump

taking part in the abuse.

I have no idea.

And I think that's the biggest problem

that we have no idea after all these years what happened.

But one thing that we know for sure

is that this kind of stuff that we're going to talk about

in this episode is very embarrassing.

And certainly a reason for Donald Trump

to try and keep these files buried forever.

They're embarrassing as hell.

But I think that the worst political decision

that maybe I've ever seen domestically

occurred with the Epstein files.

And instead of getting out ahead of it,

instead of, you know, having a press conference

or whatever, bringing the survivors in,

having them part of it, he just keeps doubling down,

saying that it's nothing more than a hoax,

and that there's nothing left to investigate.

So obviously that's going to drive people to dig deeper,

especially with all the evidence that's out there.

So today, we have an article from Deli Mel

and the headline, Jeffrey Epstein,

ordered 16-year-old victim to undress

and give him a massage while he was on speaker phone

with Trump, newly released files claim.

And so look, right off the bat, that's not illegal,

at least from Donald Trump's perspective.

He's on the phone, no big deal.

But when you look at the overhaul story

and you look at all the different times

that Donald Trump has caught up in this

and how embarrassing all of this is,

it doesn't take a genius to figure out

why Donald Trump is throwing such a fit

about these documents coming out.

And I don't blame him, right?

I'd be embarrassed too.

But at the end of the day you did what you did,

you hung out with who you hung out with

and you just need to own it.

But instead all these people want to lie,

they want to run away from this

and they want to act like nobody's ever going to call them out.

But I think that we've reached a point

where that's over and done with.

And no matter how many distractions are thrown in front of us,

people are going to continue to demand answers

and people are going to continue to demand justice.

Now the question is, will we get it?

That's the real question.

This article was authored by Daniel Bates.

Jeffrey Epstein ordered a 16 year old girl

to give him a massage while he was on the phone

with Donald Trump.

Moments before sexually assaulting her,

an FBI memo newly released by the Justice Department Claims.

In an interview with investigators,

the teenage alleged victim said Epstein urged her to hurry,

saying, let's go.

Let's go before climbing onto a massage table

as she got undressed.

Sounds about right.

That tracks what everything we know

about scumbag Epstein and what he did to people.

Epstein was speaking to Trump on speaker phone

at the time, according to her account.

And again, look, that doesn't make Trump guilty.

But it does blow up all of his claims, right?

Of, oh, I really didn't know Jeffrey,

we weren't that good of friends.

I mean, come on between the mounds of horseshit

that we were served up during the Clinton deposition

to the mounds of horseshit that Donald Trump served us.

It's almost too much to deal with.

Listen, all of you are lying, okay?

All of you, you were all close to Epstein,

you were all real friendly with him.

And you all had an idea what bro was up to.

And I think one of the most frustrating things

is that we all know that.

But there's no actionable intelligence to act upon.

And that's not because there's a lack of evidence.

It's because there's a lack of an investigation.

That's the big problem here.

And of course, Trump is doing his part

to make sure that continues.

It's unclear from the interview

when the call ended or how she knew it was Trump.

The memo describing the interview

is among 50,000 Epstein related files released

by the Department of Justice last week.

Part of the wider disclosure of records

tied to the disgrace pedophile

who hanged himself while awaiting trial in 2019.

Oh, did he Daniel Bates?

You've been covering this case long enough to know better?

Yeah, he hanged himself.

Okay, cool, I guess.

I guess we're not reading the same documents.

I guess you think Tova Noel and Michael Thomas

are on the up and up.

And I guess you think that all these coincidences

just happen to happen

to the same person all at the same time.

Okay.

The same tranche of documents

also includes a separate allegation

from an older alleged victim

who claimed that she gave Trump a foot massage

on Epstein's plane.

The newly released files also describe another woman

who claimed she was between 13 and 15

when she bit Trump's penis

as he allegedly tried to sexually assault her.

And that's the one we covered previously.

The woman from South Carolina

who says that she was abused by Trump.

White House denies all of these claims

and denies the latest allegations

in a statement to the Daily Mail.

Well, of course, what do you think they're gonna say?

Yeah, that definitely happened.

Donald Trump got his weeny bit,

punched him girl in the face after he was assaulting her.

That's all true.

I mean, of course they're not gonna say anything about it

and deny all of it.

And honestly, I always find it pretty funny

when you have these news outlets.

Ask the White House or, you know,

the royal family or whatever

for a comment during a situation like this

as if, as if they're gonna say anything

besides the Candace statements that they release

through their, you know, spokespeople or whatever.

One thing I can tell you for sure,

Donald Trump has taken his own advice and he's moved on.

He wants nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein.

White House press secretary Carolyn Levitt

said these baseless accusations from decades ago

are backed by zero evidence or facts.

The baselessness of them is corroborated by the fact

that Joe Biden's Department of Justice

had these documents and did nothing with them

because they know the truth.

President Trump did nothing wrong.

Well, okay, let's have a full-on investigation.

So that means that Caroline Levitt

and the Trump administration will 100% be on board

with a special counsel or some kind of tribunal

is that what they're saying?

Because there's nothing here, right?

And folks, don't get it twisted.

I'm not just talking about looking

into what the Trump administration did.

I'm talking about everybody going all the way back

to the first Clinton administration

and anybody who was involved in this, hold them accountable.

I don't care if it's Donald Trump.

I don't care if it's Bill Clinton.

I don't care if it's the Pope.

I don't care if Jesus himself is involved.

Whoever's involved held accountable

and the way to do that at this point

is to go after the systematic abuse that occurred

because if we expose that, we're gonna expose everything.

And I can tell you right now,

without a shadow of a doubt,

there is plenty of evidence of this cover up.

And I think we've laid out our case pretty well

over the last seven years.

He has been totally exonerated

by the release of the Epstein files

while many prominent Democrats have not.

Okay, where are the investigations, Caroline Levitt?

If people are guilty, why is there no investigation into them?

According to the FBI interview,

the 16-year-old told investigators,

she was a junior in high school in 2004

when she met a girl who recruited her

to visit Epstein at his New York townhouse.

Her first two visits were uneventful,

but her third took a dark turn, she said.

The victim recalled walking down a hallway

and to the right was a massage room and a bathroom,

the document reads,

the victim remembered a bathroom with dark marble

and bright lighting with a toilet in its own section.

Epstein came into the room and he was like,

let's go, let's go.

Epstein got on the massage table and was on the speaker phone

and called with Donald Trump.

The victim started getting undressed

and they started massaging them,

the victim started massaging Epstein's feet

and pointed to his back.

The memo does not clarify how long Trump,

who has strongly denied any wrongdoing with Epstein,

was reportedly on the phone with Epstein,

or if he was aware of what was going on and with whom,

and that's the thing.

This is scarless, right?

It's salacious, but it's not actionable.

The memo continues, Epstein grabbed her hand

and escalated to the point where Epstein pulled her

on top of them.

Afterwards, Epstein gave redacted $300 to give to redacted.

Epstein gave money to redacted in front of redacted,

redacted, received $300 and redacted, received $300.

According to the memo, the girl told the FBI,

she went to Epstein's house multiple times

until she was 19 and later recruited other girls for him.

In her views with the second woman,

state she was 29 when she began working

for Epstein as a masseuse around 1993.

She told the authority she traveled with them

for six years, including going to his private island

in the Caribbean, the document states,

and massages his girlfriends as well as Trump.

The document states that she massaged Trump's feet

on the plane from Palm Beach to New York.

So with that allegation, the woman is 29 years old,

not underage, and according to this report,

massaged Donald Trump's feet on the airplane.

Not criminal, but embarrassing as fuck.

And when you have a narcissist like Donald Trump,

there is no length they will not go

to try and keep themselves from being embarrassed.

Flight logs from Epstein's plane,

dubbed the Lolita Express, shows that Trump,

as well as his son, Eric,

flew on a flight dated August 13th, 1995 from Palm Beach

to Titorboro in New Jersey.

Epstein and his madam,

you mean co-conspirator, general all-around Scuzzbag?

Bipedal Serpent, that's what you mean, right?

Glaine Maxwell were on board.

It's unclear if this is the flight

the second woman was referring to.

The latest claim come as the DOJ

released previously with held documents

containing allegations that Donald Trump

sexually assaulted a schoolgirl last week

amid claims of a cover-up by the White House.

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I'm the host of Big Technology podcast,

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And the way to get rid of those claims

and to throw water on them is to just release the files.

But they refuse to do it.

And not only that, but the way they're going about it.

So brazenly, with no respect for Congress

and certainly no respect for you and the survivors,

they might as well not exist to the Trump DOJ.

The Department of Justice did not publish them

in its initial release of more than 3 million Epstein files

earlier this year, but one document hinted at their existence.

The woman who was allegedly interviewed on four occasions

between August and October of 2019,

but only a summary of one of the interviews was included

in the Department of Justice publicly released tranche.

The department is to review whether the Epstein files

are withheld improperly after Democrats accused

Attorney General Pound Bondi of suppressing allegations

against the president.

But Department of Justice officials

have insisted the files were initially withheld

merely because they were mistakenly categorized

as duplicates.

Have you noticed that all the mistakes

bounced their way?

Everything always ends up going towards the government?

Oh, the cameras were broke.

It was just an inconvenience and negligence on our part,

and we had old equipment.

And it just happened to break that one day.

Oh, the guards fell asleep.

That never happens, but, you know, that night,

they happened to fall asleep.

And now, of course, it's, oh, well, we forgot,

or we messed up, and this was just a mistake.

Sure it was.

The three FBI interview report show the woman said

she came forward after recognizing Epstein

from a photo sent to her by a friend.

She claimed that Epstein began abusing her

from the age of 13 and arranged encounters with other men,

including on occasion, when she was taken to New York

or New Jersey to meet Trump.

According to the interview summaries,

which are known as FBI 302 reports,

the woman alleged that Trump attempted to force her

to perform oral sex on him during the meeting.

She told the FBI that from the get-go,

Trump didn't like that I was a boy girl,

which the agent notes interpreted as meaning she was a tomboy.

The summaries revealed the woman alleged that Trump

got her alone in a room before telling her,

let me teach you how little girls are supposed to be.

She claimed that Trump then unzipped his trousers

and pushed her head down.

She was so disgusted that she bit the shit out of it.

The notes add that Trump then allegedly

lashed out and struck her saying,

get this little bitch the hell out of here.

The woman said that she and those close to her

received threatening calls over the years,

demanding that she keep quiet about the incident

and that she believed these calls were related

to Jeffrey Epstein.

Now look, I know the Department of Justice wants to tell you

that this is all just a mistake

that these files weren't released,

but how come all the mistakes always end up being

related to Donald Trump?

I mean, one or two times, okay, I get it,

there's mistakes, there's a lot of documents,

but every time you turn around,

one of these files that's being pulled down

has to do with something that's embarrassing to Donald Trump

and it's all these little things that are circumstantial

that add up to this being a cover up.

And I think that the more they dig in

and double down, the worse the optics become.

And I'm not really in the prediction business,

but my prediction is that as soon as this war winds down,

the Epstein story is gonna flare back up

because Donald Trump and his base might have moved on,

but I can assure you that we haven't.

All right, everybody, that's gonna do it for this one.

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I'm the host of Big Technology podcast,

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And if you're like me,

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is changing the business world and our lives.

So each week on Big Technology,

I bring on key actors from companies building AI tech

and outsiders trying to influence it.

Asking where this is all going,

they come from places like Nvidia, Microsoft, Amazon,

and plenty more.

So if you wanna be smart with your wallet,

your career choices, and meetings with your colleagues

and at dinner parties,

listen to Big Technology podcast wherever you get your podcasts.