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Hi, this is Alex Cantrowitz. I'm the host of Big Technology Podcast, a long time reporter
and an on-air contributor to CNBC. And if you're like me, you're trying to figure out how
artificial intelligence is changing the business world and our lives. So each week on Big Technology,
I bring on key actors from companies building AI tech and outsiders trying to influence it,
asking where this is all going. They come from places like Nvidia, Microsoft, Amazon, and
plenty more. So if you want to be smart with your wallet, your career choices, and meetings with
your colleagues and at dinner parties, listen to Big Technology Podcast wherever you get your podcasts.
Joe can quit the National Counterterrorism Center because he says he disagreed with Donald
Trump on the war in Iran, despite plenty of comments to the contrary quite recently. He's
been investigated by the FBI for allegedly leaking classified information. But what about that
infamous Charlie Kirk group chat given to Candace Owens? A member of that group chat knows exactly
who's been leaking to her the entire time. Let's talk about Joe Kent to start with. Big headlines
regarding his resignation and of course the circuit of clowns that he has partake it in since.
So, let me tell you something about Joe Kent that probably no one listening here knows, okay?
So if anyone's been following the plot about Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens and the famous
text messages where Charlie was having a day where he was very upset at his Jewish donor who pulled
out and that famous screenshot that Candace made so much of. So here's something I'm kind of
revealing this for the first time Aaron. You know that I was in that chat group right we talked
about that last time. The members of that chat group have known for quite some time that the way
that those screenshots got to Candace is via Joe Kent. You see what this is this has never been
made public before Aaron right now on your show this is I'm saying this so let me explain. Andrew
Colvin who's you know it was Charlie's number two guy who now hosts the show. Andrew was in the
chat group as well he was one of the nine people in the group and he admitted at first we perfectly
honest at first he was denying it we didn't know how Candace got them but then he admitted on the
air on his show that he had given these text messages and when I say text messages screenshots there
were two screenshots that he gave one was that famous screenshot of that of that of that text exchange
and the other was a screenshot with the names of everyone in that chat group okay and he gave them
to he said that on the show that he gave them to someone in the government. He told us that
that he gave them to someone in the government and his rationale for it which I think is foolish
although I'm not gonna I I'm not going to go too hard against Andrew here I like Andrew as
person we're friendly and with Charlie just having been killed I'm sure there was a lot going on
and and and I know that he regrets doing this but his rationale was he didn't want to leave any
stone unturned and he was asked about this by someone in the government and that he gave those
screenshots to someone in the government and of course the response of the people in the chat
group was you don't have a right to do that this is a private chat group there was no warrant you
you it doesn't work that way but nevertheless he did it and the next thing we know Candace Owens
is talking about it now Candace has said publicly that she had been in touch with Andrew after
Charlie's assassination that they had been talking and the but we knew that even if Andrew
might maybe in some alternate you know if Andrew had messed up and given her the text message with
her name in it what Charlie was saying he might invite her back to Amfess because he was upset at
this Jewish donor that could be possible if he would do that although unlikely because TPUSA
had broken with Candace and Andrew knows who Candace is and what she might do with that so it was
doubtful but what really made us feel that Andrew was not the one to give her the text messages
was that second screenshot there's no way even if he had shared that first screenshot that he
would have revealed to Candace Owens the names of all nine people in the group it made no sense
so we didn't know how it got her and then we started putting pieces together because
Joe Kent was someone that we knew that there was a relationship there between Charlie and Andrew
and Joe we knew that when Charlie would visit Washington DC he would talk to Joe and we kind of
put two and two together and eventually I'll leave out some of the details that I shouldn't say
we kind of verified that the messages had been given by Andrew to Joe Kent and that Joe
Kent had been the one to pass them on to Candace and I was thinking about this when I saw that
interview that Tucker did with you know so Tucker did this interview with Joe and Joe was talking
about the Charlie Kirk assassination and you have to remember that Candace kept saying that she
has information from the from the top levels that there's questions to be asked okay this is all
Joe Kent because he's the head of now you have to think about think of it from Candace's perspective
this is someone who's the head of the counterterrorism center and he's saying that there's something
there right and he but he gave her the text messages so when he was on that when he was being
interviewed by Tucker and he said to Tucker well you know we all know about the text messages which
were made public that was his exact words which were made public because you know because of this
this happened I'm not saying that at all I'm just saying there's unanswered questions
we know the pressure because of the text messages the text messages that have been made public
that Charlie was under a lot of pressure from a lot of pro-Israel donors and again we know
Charlie was advocating to President Trump against this war with Iran and I'm watching this and of
course the millions of people who watch this aren't seeing it the way I'm seeing it I'm looking at
going excuse me which were made public you made them public yes so you talk about leaking now in
other words like let me back up and say it this way even if you say that there's reason to investigate
this there's no justification for sending those text messages to Candace Owens none whatsoever
anyway that's my little reveal for you no I mean thank you first of all for sharing and the second
part to that though Rabbi is I watched him with Megan Kelly and she asked him in three different
kind of ways that felt as though it had been rehearsed prior if I'm being honest and his
response of no to her questions about had he been leaking I mean it looked like I'm not going
to use an analogy that's inappropriate but you know he looked nervous and completely unsure of what
he was saying and the no was was so weak there was nothing in it that felt like he was I mean if
someone was accusing me of that I'd be pushing back hard but he was kind of no no no no no
I just feel like how can you say that though if he has done it because he said definitively
no to leaking will he now look at it when it comes out and say oh well leaking is you know
defined as this and what I did wasn't leak you know or they weren't confidential that you know
he'll somehow try to get out of it but the way he handled Megan Kelly I thought he looked
wormish yeah I think he's a mediocre person I mean yeah but he he also got into a bad crowd
a much has been made online in the last couple days about how his tweets from a few years ago were
in a completely different direction on Iran and of course he his his second wife who he recently
married has written for for Greyzone work for Max Blumenthal who's notorious uh Israel Hader
America Hader Russia and Iran shell and that's what he's married to so there's a lot of
a lot of questions there and it also raises I'll tell you something else and this is just conjecture
my full interview with rabbi Willicki also known as Charlie Kirk's rabbi drop six AMET Monday
don't miss it it's huge he debunks so many of the ridiculous allegations coming out of this
mega fracture also the personal impact of war
hi this is Alex Cantrowitz I'm the host of big technology podcast a long time reporter and an
on air contributor to CNBC and if you're like me you're trying to figure out how artificial
intelligence is changing the business world and our lives so each week on big technology I bring
on key actors from companies building AI tech and outsiders trying to influence it asking where
this is all going they come from places like Nvidia Microsoft Amazon and plenty more so if you
want to be smart with your wallet your career choices and meetings with your colleagues and at
dinner parties listen to big technology podcast wherever you get your podcasts
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