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Boomer, Pinder and Rhett take a big picture look at the Calgary Flames and where the team is headed, highlighting encouraging signs for the future despite the current situation. The guys discuss Gridin’s calm and confident shootout goal as a glimpse of his potential, Hunter Brzustewicz’s steady and poised play on the blue line, and how players like Joel Farabee are stepping up into leadership roles. While it’s all about the bigger picture, the conversation centers on why there’s real optimism building around this next wave of Flames talent and what it could mean for the team moving forward.
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They go to a shootout, and I mean, we can double back on the other stuff, but we may as well
go to the one that has... I was watching.
My kid was downstairs.
I agree with myself.
I just feel like this is going in.
There's just nothing this guy...
This guy is... he's got a tremendous shot.
He's a scorer.
And he's just... something about his demeanor.
Did he look nervous?
Zero.
I mean, he looks like he's 12, but...
True.
He is calm.
And it just...
Can I...
Can I...
You know what that looked like?
Patrick Effing came in.
Yes, I wanted to say it, and that's the highest of compliments,
but like, it had the same vibes.
He's going to be...
Okay, here's a spot.
I'll just put it there.
That's fine.
I know where I'm putting it.
I know it's going in.
I just have to go do it.
And it's done.
And I expected it to go in and game over.
What are we worried about?
Let's go.
I like how Fairby's coming along, too.
Where in the A?
It looks like a guy...
Yeah, like he gets the goal.
It doesn't count, but it's a hell of a play.
It's way more involved.
Well, and also clearly he's having impact in the room.
We haven't paid any attention to Fairby as far as, you know,
expecting him to be a leader.
Right?
I just hadn't heard anything about it.
It's fine.
Not that I should have, but it clearly he's having an impact
in the room, and he's playing well.
We talked in here.
Early in the year, there was lots of games
where he was the best player.
The driver's life.
Yeah.
In October, he might have had like five to six expected goals,
and he was stuck at like one.
You're like, this guy cannot buy a balance.
Posts all over, wiffing on empty nets in tights.
Like, he plays a mucky brand, and he works his tail off,
and it's good to see him get rewarded,
because October was the exact opposite.
I don't know.
Francis was talking about it on the one broadcast,
that after the trades are done, and they bring the leadership group,
whatever you want to call it, and Zary is in there,
and ball is in there, and Fairby's in this group.
It's like, well, we're going to hear this while letters
are going to go for alternate captains.
You're going to wear the A at home.
And for Fairby, it was maybe caught him a little bit off guard.
Super.
Like, it was took a photo, sent it to his folks kind of thing.
It was like, never really had a letter.
We think about it.
For Anderson, Codry, Weeger, Huerto hurt.
Like, you did kind of need to reload the letters and the leadership.
Yeah.
It's funny, because it almost, it felt like that was a bit of,
it's not like he's playing through the roof,
but there's been a noticeable difference
in his level of play, maybe before that,
but what was it like for you?
Because you, you've worn the A.
When did you get your first A?
Aside from math and high school.
My first A?
Oh, in junior.
Like in the NHL, right?
Yes.
Buffalo, 2000.
Yeah.
Do you remember the day to the situation?
Had guys been moved?
Or how did that go?
I don't really.
You would have arrived what the year.
My thing of British A's and C's at all that BS.
It's not BS.
But it isn't it isn't BS because there's,
there's guys on teams that have leadership.
Letters.
And they're not clearly not leaders.
And my thoughts for always you play the same way no matter what.
Like so, you were already a leader on the ice.
Sounds whole.
You're the whole.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But everyone is different.
But there would be some guys.
I maybe wouldn't even see themselves in that light.
Say, okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, that's.
Well, that.
I appreciate it.
You know, I wonder if that does, you know, strike a bit of a chord.
Husk a post game.
Obviously, they win this hockey game.
They get two points and we know whatever.
They're going to win some games.
Yeah.
That's their third march.
They're going to follow the fellas just so you know, you hit it.
We'll get to some of the other contestants and combatants in the game.
But we talk about the calm demeanor of gridden.
And Husk a talk post game about not just the calm demeanor,
but there's maybe a little bit of dog in there too.
You know, we talk a lot about players on the bench, you know,
and you know, the next one counts or it's on the line.
A lot of guys won't turn around and look at you.
He did tonight.
So to me, that shows a lot about, I want to go put me out there.
That type of thing where, you know, that's something that now is used to do a lot of.
Joel Fariby does a lot of that right now.
So he's moved himself up because he's scoring.
But for a young 20 year old to look and say,
hey, I'm the guy that can finish this.
That's a pretty impressive thing.
And I think that goes to your kind of cool in his veins or I don't know what I would call it.
Just pretty relaxed when he goes in there.
It's funny because you see that play and I thought they were awesome against Detroit.
The Frost him in Coronado line.
He played Clapka minutes last night and so did Frost.
They were under 13 minutes and you're not seeing him in overtime.
And what Husk is talking about is the shoot out.
It feels like it feels a career short lease for a guy that might be your most talented player right now.
I know people.
12 minutes.
I know.
I'm having I'm having faith in the coach here that he knows what he's doing.
Yeah.
And that it's it's not that he's limiting his minutes.
It's this is what right now is best for the player to succeed.
Yeah.
That individual.
It's not everybody kind of like we just talked with letters.
Because I was looking at that this morning and just watching Huska.
I remember it was a year ago after training camp.
He talked about grid and great camp.
Next year I want you to come here in the mindset and be ready to make this club.
It's at the time.
Yeah.
It's like.
That's cute to say.
Yeah, he's just playing the US.
18 year old like that's that's very nice of a coach.
And a year later the guy comes to camp and is ready to win a job on the national hockey league team.
So I.
Can you give him more minutes?
Yeah, but maybe that's not the best because he what you're seeing from him is all good.
Yeah, it might have been a night where he the coach didn't like his five on five game.
I just thought when you have a four on three power play like he's your best shooter.
He's probably got your highest hockey IQ right now.
Like he's.
Should have been out there instead of maybe a pending UFA.
You're not going to sign that's looked really stale and.
It was all over the.
All of some played a lot of the the overtime.
Yeah.
Husker knows what he's like.
He's seen what we're seeing.
It does seem weird.
I don't know if.
Is it a last ditch effort to manage the room a little bit to a totally part of it.
Right.
We're only seeing what.
We want to happen.
And.
I'm kind of trying to.
The exact.
I like Husker.
I like how he's coached.
You can't question what he's done.
So I have to have some.
If I've got Connie finance.
I've got to let Husker do his thing.
He's not done anything.
Wrong.
With any of these kids and teaching them to earn it isn't the end of the world.
And there's days where you're not sharp.
Are there situations where you might think do things differently.
Maybe.
But he's got a better grasp of.
The whole picture.
Yeah.
We're looking at it.
Play the kids.
Well, I got to manage the room too.
Yeah, I think we all look at it from the grid and perspective.
We're like, we want more.
That's great.
Is that means it's a great story.
Like this is a late first round or you're probably hitting.
There's less than 50 50 and he's already looking like a very, very good player in the NHL.
In his 19 year old season.
But Husker has to manage a room.
With a veteran and Victor Olipson who's heading into UFA.
And it's like, if I lose this guy now.
Well, how does that affect the room?
We're not thinking about it from the Olipson perspective, right?
Yeah.
And he has to look great.
But there's a reason that he's putting him out there.
Or any perspective, right?
Because my, my reaction to everything.
Well, I care more about what grid is thinking than Olipson is thinking.
But to your point, retro.
It's the guy.
If we're going to sit and applaud the team for effort and try and being in hockey games,
despite having the lowest number of goals scored.
And you're, it's got to be seller in terms of overall skill in the team.
You have to give the credit to some of the credit to the coach there and then just kind of have faith in what he's doing.
To that end.
Because we all see it.
I get texts from people.
It's like, what the hell?
They're lined up with this and that.
Here was asked about post game.
The roster construction on a nightly basis.
Because we know there's a lot of guys playing line combos and this and that.
Are you seeing the, the competition?
Well, you didn't play last game.
So now you're in.
So now you got to step up.
Are you seeing that competition?
Or how is the evaluation process in a way going right now?
Sometimes you're putting player in that, you know, you didn't work.
You're taking someone out.
I should say that didn't necessarily deserve to be taken out.
So I don't know if you're creating the right type of competition with that.
But that's the environment that we're in right now because of where we're sitting in the standings.
There's more bodies around people are going to get themselves in the lineup.
I don't want a lot of people sitting forever.
Old, young, it doesn't matter.
But it's hard when there's certain nights when a guy plays well.
And he finds himself out of the line up the next night.
To the bodies.
And that's, you just signed a college reagent.
You got to take some money back on deals.
Gridden last night, 1249, Olipson, 1434.
So just a little bit under two.
Over two minutes.
That's probably the difference really.
254 in power play time for gridden 325 for Olipson.
Over a 60 minute game.
It was just so obvious at that point.
This is maybe when you put the kid.
Do one.
Oscar.
Also, the other part of it is too.
Do you have an agent in your ear?
This guy's going to be a free agent.
It's like, all right, we're going to play him.
And then when he doesn't do anything, it's like, well, now you can get out of my frigging office.
I think that's exactly what's happening.
It's like, you're doing a veteran of solid.
He's a UFA.
He's a guy fighting.
I don't think just for contract, but stay in this league.
Could they?
Like, when you watch him, are you like, oh, he's going to be a July one pickup?
I don't.
That looks like PTO villa right now.
And at this point, it's like, am I going to Europe?
Am I going to take a two-way deal?
Am I a PTO?
Am I playing a league min?
You're doing them a solid.
But he's running out of runway to impress.
I'll say that.
Yeah.
Because it's not like they haven't given them.
They have given it to him.
What have you seen?
Maybe a play, but most nights invisible.
On the flip side,
Brestevich last night,
20 minutes and 33 seconds of ice,
played 18 and a half against Detroit.
So the coach has no problem.
Now, loading some minutes on young Brestevich,
who has handled the matter last night.
Yeah.
And that seems like a nice security blanket for a young kid.
I kind of like a matter.
Yeah.
He's good.
It's kind of like white cloud.
You're like, better than I thought.
And certainly not sexy,
but very capable.
And 23, 43 to lead all players last night.
Exactly what you want out of a guy in that situation.
Play solid.
He's not a true number one,
but he's playing as a number one minutes
and he can handle and he gives you solid minutes.
I think they're absolutely...
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Going to.
If they aren't already fall in love with Bruce David,
I think he's going to be...
I think they are.
Excellent player for the category of players.
On the flip side,
Marty Posposal team low 10,
and you have Klapka out.
You've got Tyson Gross waiting in the wings
for his NHL debut.
You've got Lambert.
You don't like...
It feels like a lost year.
We talked about it yesterday when you weren't here,
but Posposal's three-year extension kicks in next year.
Three at two and a half.
Oh, is it at two and a half?
And they got it done very early in the fall with...
I mean, he was a bit of a unicorn at the time.
Not at the time of the signing.
It's the first year, yeah.
You know, the guy's big and he's...
He's a skater.
And he did the score last night and got this allowed.
Maybe it's still there.
But it's...
That's going...
We talked about it yesterday.
It's going to be a weird, interesting project moving forward.
Can he get back to what he was?
Does he want to get back to what he was?
Does he want him to get back to what he was?
Yes, I think he wants him to.
Well, they do.
But I also think that when he had George Paros in his year
as much as he did two seasons ago, it changed the way he played,
whether he wants to admit it or not.
Never mind the concussions, but those two things...
Or can I say...
I think have affected his plot.
Yeah.
Don't forget Husker ran him into the ground that one day,
which I thought was bullshit at the time.
That's the one time where I was like,
Husker, completely off base.
You're giving him shit for trying to do what he does.
I don't think that was fair.
And they got too many wingers.
We're looking at this team with Odhanzak,
who is going to be a top nine guy with this team next year.
We saw him make some good strides this year on a checking list.
I'm not worried about that.
But just hanging with me, hanging with me.
And Huberto.
And who are the expiring wingers?
Everyone wants to bring back Lomburg.
I don't know where you put him in.
I feel like Lomburg now is almost impossible to reassign
if you're locked into Possible.
You can't have...
You got four lines, eight wingers.
Even if one guy's...
It feels like they got 12 guys.
And aren't you planning on graduating a guy
at some point in the season?
I would let the off-season play itself out.
The off-season play.
And so to make my point,
I think when this team goes to the draft
and they've got all this draft capital,
and maybe they're trying to move up,
or they're packaged this for that,
or we'll use one of these picks to get a player,
don't be surprised there's a winger staple to one of these deals
just to make some room.
Because they have too many.
Whatever.
Put them in their binders.
Could a Coleman deal happen?
I don't...
I think it's lower probability,
but it could.
I think they want him as a leader next year,
in the movement of the deadly.
Yeah, I do too.
But also, maybe Lumber doesn't come back,
and I'll be honest,
until Sam Hansik shows me that he can be there
and deserves a spot.
When he deserved this year,
he's gonna hurt.
He was playing well.
Yeah, but what happened to Possible?
Possible has gotten less effective three years in a row.
It was also hurt.
No, but it's not...
If he's healthy, he looks...
If injury is okay for Hansik to be let off the hook,
then why is an injury for Possible?
I'm not saying it's off the hook.
What I'm saying is he's already a better player than Possible
and played bigger minds.
I think...
Possible.
We showed it yesterday as foot speeds way down this year.
I'm not...
I'm not a proponent for Possible,
but I just think we're making a mountain note of a moho.
Who the fuck cares?
Put him in the minors.
If he clears waivers, who cares?
Like, yeah, I'm not...
If we're so concerned about Possible,
Possible, making two and a half,
he can make two and a half of the minors.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I still...
That's where the ball has ended up rolling, too.
And I'm not saying you're wrong, Ryan,
because I actually don't like how he's playing.
But I think it's worse than that.
I think that there's a little...
Ferland is the perfect example of Possible.
Michael Ferland.
You can't pull back the reins that much.
So, yeah.
And have a bunch of concussions and not connect the two.
I agree.
And they both got contracts,
and they both had major concussion issues.
And they both probably got...
You can't do that.
That's bad for the game.
Have a seat.
You're getting fined.
All those things add up to a guy that doesn't look like
the shit the stripper two years ago when he came into the league.
Yeah.
And I think you can go to Possible,
so...
Possible, and say,
I don't care what George Perro's tells you.
He can...
F his hat.
You put the way you're supposed to.
So...
I don't think you can do that when he's been concussed.
And you have to tell him,
run through guys and crush guys and fight to do...
Wow.
You be walking the other day,
and you're kind of grimacing about your...
Dude, who thought that he was going to play?
I was watching that.
I'm like, he got punched.
He might be done,
because he got hurt early in the year.
And look,
we didn't even notice it.
It's not a criticism.
It's just...
No.
You can't operate without that in your back your mind.
Can you?
I don't think you can.
The number of concussions he's had.
Yeah.
But it's...
And we'll move on.
I just...
It's not an issue.
Yeah.
I think in Craig's office on the whiteboard,
they're trying to find ways to make room.
Because what you'd love to see is what Pittsburgh did.
And what Connie did two years ago,
which is,
let's roll the dice on a one-year mat for thing.
And if he pops,
we can turn him into assets or sign him.
When you've got more wingers,
then you even...
Or can hold on an initial roster.
That card is taking right out of your hand.
It's a nice thing to be able to do.
Someone's on way of a shit.
We'll take a gamble on...
Ely Tolvenin,
like Seattle did,
or whatever the case may be.
That card,
you can't play when you're flooded with wingers.
And I think they will sort it out.
But they didn't move a winger at the deadline this year.
And wingers aren't going for prices.
Like,
Senators got paid.
I would...
I'm much rather have Connor Garland on my team than Nick Waw.
One got a first and a third.
The other got a second and a third.
All right.
I'm with you.
And we can move on, absolutely.
I think your bigger concern as an organization
isn't trying to bring in a free agent.
You can flip for more assets.
I think you've got a ton of assets.
You've got a lot of stock
into your drafts already.
Your focus should be on what you have
and bringing them along.
And if you're limiting a spot
for one of those players,
as you could try and bring a guy in
and turn him into something to flip him,
I think you're doing a disservice to your squad.
I think they are a year away
from someone graduating from the air.
Like, if SUNY is going to happen,
it's probably going to be late next year,
if at all next year.
Basha went back to junior this year.
They've got some other guys
that will come into the pro ranks
at a college potentially.
But like,
I don't think you have someone knocking on the door,
playing wing for them.
But I mean,
gridden has arrived, right?
Because he was a...
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's arrived.
If Hanzek...
If you're saying we've got too many wingers already,
I don't give a shit who's a free agent
that I might be able to turn into an asset.
No, you're...
That means things are going well.
And they have enough picks and assets now, right?
If you're going to go into the free agent,
it's going to be...
It better be for something
that you think is going to help this team.
Senator Iyer,
some chatty, something like that.
Yeah.
Just back to Prestevich.
He made...
There again,
I think Robert Munich on his ex-account.
He's like,
you watch these plays.
And he's already making very calm and poised
under pressure plays.
Do you see...
Because in junior retro,
he had big numbers in junior.
It hasn't so far
translated in the NHL.
Is he a guy that's going to get points
to go with the poise?
Or is this most...
Don't know.
Don't care.
I think he's just going to be one of those...
Like, is Anderson a point-gitter?
He was, but no.
Not until the...
If the last few years...
If the last few years...
He's not...
Do you...
If you'd say Rasmus Anderson,
are you saying point-gitter?
He's not a...
Like, I think he's that similar style
where he's going to do everything for you.
Yeah.
He'll play his ass off
and if you need him to run a power play,
he can't...
Rasmus played a top pair role for a while,
and he isn't that right now.
He's having a miserable go in Vegas lately.
On this team, though, in fairness.
Yeah, and so just let me finish the point.
I don't think Prestevich's ceiling
is that high,
but I think you've got a really good puck mover
that on a contender is a four-five.
Like, if he's...
I don't know.
I do, too.
Okay.
I think he'll end up...
Either way, it's a lovely asset.
Like, that felt almost...
Like, that...
That Lindholm deal, man.
I'm telling you,
for two months of...
Mail Lindholm and Vancouver.
That's gridden.
That's Prestevich.
That's how you got Frost and Fairby
once you threw him,
Peltchay was in the minors.
Like, yeah.
It is remarkable how two-month rental
of Lindholm is...
You got two core pieces that looks like this.
Here's why I think Prestevich should be more
because he wants to be more
and he'll push himself to be more
and he's got the right...
approach...
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Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener

Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener

Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener
