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It's been forever since we had something to recap in bachelor nation

And we were very excited that this week the new HGTV renovation competition show

With 12 bachelor alumni has premiered

And we're going to break it all down give us give you our honest thoughts

Ben

My honest thoughts are

I loved the first half of the episode

I smiled through it

I loved seeing so many familiar faces

This is kind of what I've always wanted them to do

Some sort of spin-off competition show

So that we could see our favorites again in a more competitive environment

Where love isn't necessarily involved

I did think it was too long, two hours seems

I thought it may have been even a half an hour just thinking HGTV show

And I was like, oh no, you know a lot of HGTV shows maybe an hour

When I thought was two hours

That was too much and it I think turned out to be

What were your takeaway thoughts?

I want to start by saying if you have not watched this episode of

The renovation show when they renovate the bachelor mansion

I would stop this podcast right now

Because there's going to be a ton of spoilers

We're going to break down who went home, how things went, what we thought

If you have no interest in watching the episode but listening to our podcast

And I would say keep this podcast going

We will break down to everything we saw experienced and felt during the episode

There will be spoilers during this podcast

Okay, now, go for it

My thoughts were this, I love the idea when it started

When we were first told that the bachelor mansion was going to be renovated

I was very excited to watch this happen

I still am

And as you said, some of bachelor nation favorites are showing up to help out at the mansion

And I love

I love that we get to see some of the individual skill sets of some of the people

That we've watched only really communicate their romantic ideals previously

Now we get to see more of who they are in real life, the Dean Unglerts

The Dean Bells, I guess, his skill sets

Noah, Jill, Jill, I mean, Jill is one of the craziest jobs in the United States

She said it's not high paying

But Jill is helping preserve the mansions in Newport

It's a spectacular job

One that I've enjoyed every year for Christmas

For the last four years, it's wonderful

Yeah, we're Jared and I got married

And I'm actually taking Dawson to one of the mansions today

It's like a mom's son date

I was like, what can I take him on that hill?

He's like really cool but also a little bit adult

And so that's what we're going to do

I was like, we're going to a castle

We're going to go to a castle

A couple of questions I have before the show started that I still have

Same, I have questions, what are yours?

You know, I think in order to break this down can sysly and accurately

We'll have the two sections

We loved and the things we disliked

And then some of the questions that are pending after the first episode

Let's start with some of the pending questions

My question is what are they doing this for?

Is it strictly for the bachelor because in years previous

As we've talked about in the podcast

There is a family that lives in that home

The bachelor comes in for a few weeks

Every year takes the mansion over

Redecorates, repaints

Puts up some new pillows and decorations

And then the cast moves in

Well, what they did after the first episode makes me feel like this mansion is only going to be used for the bachelor

Because now there's permanent bunk beds

And there's permanent fixtures

Things have changed a lot

And so what are we doing this for?

Is it for the family or is it for the show?

Okay, so that was my biggest question

And I wasn't sure whether that was a question that I had lingering in the back of my mind more

Because we lived in it, we have a personal tie to it, and we have known

That Marshall has built the house, lived in the house for 20 plus years

And the fact that it's always in turnover between family and the show

I think a casual viewer probably wouldn't take that into consideration so much

They probably think that ABC owns the house

But as far as we know, the beginning

There's a little clip of Marshall saying

That how he thought of designing the house after a favorite spot in Italy

And it says underneath in his lower third that he is the original owner

So I'm like, okay, so did you sell the house?

Because now is it just a set house?

Because if it is, that means like truly they can do whatever they want

Or is he giving them the space to just totally renovate the place

Because I think he got divorced from his wife and I just don't know if like the house is like

As much of a center point to the family anymore

It is a question I would have loved for that to be explained

Because I do think it has a massive piece of the storyline

Who are we doing this for? Is the question

Are we doing this for the 20 people to move in every year or are we doing this for a family

And how they're going to function inside the home

It came to my, I got emotional, I didn't like cry

But I felt something when the girls were renovating their room

And they talked about removing the access to the fireplace

Those beautiful fireplace

Oh, it's like, what are you guys thinking?

That's when I was like, who's house is this?

Somebody here has to step in because if you make that fireplace inaccessible

Take away, yeah, maybe during the bachelor we didn't light it, that's a massive hazard

But that family has to be lighting that fireplace often

It is an amazing fireplace, it's gorgeous in so many ways

I was very concerned for a second that they were going to replace something that is spectacular

With what were they going to do, use it for storage?

Yeah, they wanted to use it for storage

Okay, we actually just got a text from our producer

Marshall is still the owner during the Renault show

Anyway, Ben and I have had plenty of encounters with Marshall

So we do feel attached to it to a certain different way

But yeah, fireplace

That would have been crazy to get rid of that gorgeous fireplace

But I liked that Jill as the preservationist here

And it is preserving history

It's bachelor nation history, it's very important

The fireplace needed to stay in her opinion

And so did the tiles

And I totally agreed

And I'm glad the tiles stayed there

And I'm glad that when these rooms were remodeled

It still remained still in the theme with the Mediterranean vibes

I mentioned

My favorite thing that they added was the outdoor furniture

Jazzing up those two balconies

Because the balconies, well they weren't used very often

It was used by the girls just for makeup reasons

Because it's one of the only places that you can get good lighting

In that mansion, it's very dim

I wish that the girls, honestly

This would have been one of the things

Where it would have been useful to know

Is it only a set or is it just, or is it a house sometimes

Because if it's always a set

They should have put some vanities in the girls' room

They should have put some bulbs

Overall, the whole point of the show is to renovate a mansion that does need a renovation

I'm all for it

The home has not been touched for many years

It's been beat up by casts and crew walking and trampling through it

It has so many beautiful aspects of the mansion

As Marshall said at the beginning

He did this, built this house in his way

Because of his inspiration from traveling abroad

And I think that house feels that way

Here in it, it very much feels like a Tuscan escape

More than any other parts of Italy

I think it feels like a Tuscan escape

Because of the place that it sits, the hill that it sits on

The arches and the stucco and the tiles

It has beautiful bones

And it's a beautiful home

It just needed some care

So let me be clear

I'm all for this show happening in the way it is

I just want to understand who we're doing this for

What we're doing this

And who maybe is going to be the ultimate say

And no, let's not get rid of a fireplace

Let's maybe keep the fireplace

Let's keep some of the things that are make this place iconic

But just touch it up a bit

Yeah, also, I'm sorry, our group message is blowing up

I've actually heard from Amy Sugarman

You know our executive producer

She's thrown a lot of parties there

So she's had to work with Marshall

Apparently, he isn't really in the owner

He's managed the property

He used to own it

But hasn't for a while

Still doesn't give us any information though

As to whether or not this is ever going to be a normal house

Or whether it's going to be a set

As we continue on in the show

As Ashley mentioned in the beginning

There are some familiar faces that we know

And love Ashley just for the sake of a reminder

Let's go through very quickly

The cast members that showed up to the mansion

Okay, so Jill Chen is obviously as we said

An architectural historian makes sense

What she's there

Noah married to Abigail from Bachelor in Paradise

They do homework and they flip their entire house together

They did a lot of it on Instagram

Documenting a room

He was from Tasia's season

And oddly, I was like

I was like, who didn't live with this mansion

Why are these guys saying that they didn't live with the mansion

I was like, yeah, that's right

Because during COVID they didn't film with the mansion

And then Sam, he only had one night at the mansion

Because Jen's season didn't really film there either

Joan is an interior designer

Wait, timeout, I'm confused

I forget why did Jen's season not film there

Did they start traveling?

They just start traveling

I think you've kind of do with Golden

I think they're like taking like a time off from there or something

But they like, I think she basically cheers with them

And said we're not going to use the house

I don't remember that

But that's a really interesting tidbit

I know

I didn't remember it until Sam reminded me of it

So then Jeremy, same season, also didn't live there, crazy

Dean, so yeah, like I was saying, Dean has done a whole bunch of like R in their house

What does he, does he like have professional background in it?

No, but he's very like crafts

He's got like craftsman hands, he like knows how to build a great

So a ton of things for their home

And it's something that he's passionate about and he's really good at it

So good

Then we have Tammy

She's been in real estate for a long time

She also has a design background

Chris, you know from Golden Bachelorette

He's a general contractor

Sam, also a general contractor

Sam, you guys know from Jen's season

And then Courtney Robertson, real estate agent

Sandra, real estate agent

Jeremy, this, he was the most, it is he belonged to me

He's a property investor

Brendan, who we know as the villain from Tacia season

Well, he wasn't a villain on Tacia season, but on the following Bachelor in Paradise

With big scandal about pre-planning situations and all that

He has a girlfriend now from the show, right?

Yeah, yeah, he dated the girl that he had the whole controversy with

They lasted quite a while, and now he's with another girl from the show

So be my mind too

Then, but he like makes so much sense

Because he's a commercial roofer and painter

And then Alli Usha, she is an interior designer

Of Jill is so funny when Alli Usha walks in

She's like, oh no

Because they had beef on this past season of Bachelor in Paradise

And then just to make note

Tacia has two X's there in Brendan and Noah

All right, so then basically Jesse tells everyone that there is $100,000 at stake

One person will be making it

They're going to be divided into two teams, girls versus guys

And then there will be some eliminations along the way

They first start off with the challenge

Where they have to like, it's just like a, you know, kind of like a fast challenge

It's a mental thing

And this is going to get somebody immunity

It ends up being Dean

I was very happy it was Dean

Because just seeing Dean, like I want to see Dean on my screen at all times

Like, he just makes you so happy

He is just such a special human being

I feel like we all need a dose of Dean on TV all the time

Just so that we can like get some brightness in our life

You know what's interesting about Dean

He's one of my best friends in the world

Yeah

I love him deeply

But when you're with Dean and person

He can come off as a little apathetic at times

Right?

Like he just like, is go with the flow chill

But he always is like Coke kind of poking and prodding

You put him on a TV screen

Oh yeah

And he's like a leader

He's boisterous and passionate and confident

And I'm like, who?

Where is this guy?

He has multiple personalities

They're all great

But I love him in this zone

Well, it's a comfortable zone for him

It's also I think a show that doesn't intimidate him

I don't know if any experiences intimidate Dean

He's done a lot of crazy things in his life

But this feels very much like we're going to see Dean Bell come alive

It might be one of the reasons why his wife really pushed him to do this

Oh, she's why did she even have to push?

Like, didn't come on

You're amazing

We had a golf trip planned in the middle of it

It was tough

It was a tough yes

But I mean he does

And it's fun to see Dean come alive like this

Because when he comes alive

He is

And he always is

But when he comes alive

He is one of those people that stand out and light up a room

He's a huge character during this show

Because he has that it factor

Right? He has that ability to jump off your screens

Which not everybody does

And it doesn't mean since you've been on TV you have it either

So I'm with you

Dean was a huge win for them

Ashley, I do want to pause you here though

Before we keep diving into the episode

I watched the episode

But there is a moment where this location scout comes in

And talks about how she found the bachelor mansion

But she has like a pony with her

I don't know where the why

What's the pony about?

I just don't even know why these two interviews existed

Well, they were kind of fun

It was a snippet from Marshall

Which actually just ends up confusing the audience

And then there's a snippet from this lady

Who scouted the house

She was the one who found the house for the show

And she just has a random pony with her

Which I mean

We don't know why, right?

No

I want to know what the pony is about

Really, I'm very curious on why there was a pony there

It just, I don't know, some producers like

It'll be funny if she's petting a pony

It is funny, but it's better

Yeah, but it doesn't make any sense

It's like, at all

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Ashley a little

Some data on this house

Oh gosh, don't make me do this

No, I got it

Oh, okay, okay

I thought you were going to have me do the math that they did for the challenge

And I was like, I do not, I can't do that

I want that to you

The house is 10,000 square feet

It sits on nine acres of property

That's incredible in Los Angeles

Seven bedrooms, eight bathrooms

I don't even know where all the eight bathrooms are

I could name...

Some of them are hidden from us

Yeah, I could name five that I know of that we had access to

Or could pinnacle our way into

But there must be some bathrooms hidden that I've never seen

Well, I think we should mention that

The house has a wing to it that the cast never sees

There's part of the house I haven't seen

It's over on the garage area

Yeah, two of the downstairs bedrooms are used for interview rooms

So then we are left with the three upstairs bedrooms

Which has a total of three bathrooms upstairs

And then we have two bathrooms downstairs

One is a powder room

And the other one actually has a shower

About ECs, that shower

Because it was the most private

The whole show is set up for eliminations

As Ashley mentioned, Jesse

Shares that $100,000 will go to the winner of this season

And each episode, multiple people

If not a one person, if not multiple people

Will be eliminated from the show

Coming down to the final winner of the season

That was not a surprise to us

We figured it would happen

However, it's a little bit of a bummer to me how many people they removed

Right away

That was tough because I want to see so many of these people operating inside the house

And I do believe that for time's sake

On how quickly they can make these renovations

The more people the better

Just my two cents

Yeah

Also, as Ashley was very nervous

They started out the episode pretty much with a immunity game

As soon as they said it was going to be math

I was like Dean's going to crush it

Dean's incredible at math

He's a smart guy

He doesn't always brag about his intelligence

But he's got a brain that is pretty much like a watch safe

He doesn't forget anything which is very scary as a friend

However, Ashley, if you were asked to be a part of this game

How well would you have done when it comes to square footage

See, here you are

No, just how well would you have done

I'm not going to ask you to do it

I'm just asking how well would you have done

I think you would have a great multiplication and division and stuff

I will say it was square footage

That was something I kind of learned as of recently

One time it was a classic

It's a classic memory in our marriage

Jared and I were looking at lots to build a house on

This is like four or five years ago

When I had no concept of reality

I was not a mom yet and my full concentration was on building the most beautiful house

That has not yet to be yet

And that's totally fine because I realize there's more boring things in life

Anyway, we were meeting with the real estate agent

And the thing is you wouldn't be able to have a restriction on the amount of square footage

Probably wouldn't want to go above six or seven thousand on this property

And I go, oh

Well, I was thinking that we need at least 10,000 square feet

And then Jared was like, what?

In the world that is so embarrassed

I was like, yeah, my parents house is 10,000 square feet

And actually, my parents house isn't 10,000 square feet

And we would never need a house as big as my parents

But lo and behold, what I really meant was that I wanted a house around the 5,000 square feet

But I said 10,000 and it was embarrassing

Yeah, I mean, I just think this is not an easy...

If you don't know square footage

Just wouldn't have been an easy equation to figure out

But if you know square footage, it's not hard, right?

It's multiplication and a little bit of subtraction

And you're rocking and rolling

But this is not embarrassing

Actually, I would never call you out

But you on the spot when it comes to math

Because my wife is very smart

She was an incredible student

And we talk often right now about how much we've forgotten

Like if you told me to do long division or any type of calculus

I think I could still do algebra

I never had to take calculus

I do a little more geometry in my daily life than anything else

And so I could probably figure it out

But it's not perfect

It's like messy and kind of like I'm trying a bunch of different equations

To try to figure out what makes sense

It's not easy and so don't feel bad

I think as adults, most adults would say

Yeah, we've forgotten math

Like it's okay, we're not a walking calculator

Oh man, you are giving me flashbacks

It's trigonometry, I had to drop out of that class

How did you do trig and not calculus?

Well, in college I had to do two math classes

So I did college algebra, which is fantastic

I loved that, I liked algebra, I always did well in that

And then I had to do like one other

And you chose trigonometry?

Wow, good for you

Well, wait, so you think that that's harder than calculus?

Yes, I agree

Really?

Yes, so much easier

Producer Heather says yes too

Oh, so no wonder I had to drop out of it

By the time of the dropout date

You know how you have like three weeks or something

It's not easy

Goodness actually

It's not, no, trigonometry is not fun

I would wish it upon nobody that they can use it

Anyways, Dean succeeds at winning this competition

Which gives him the golden hammer

I know he loves the innuendos

With the golden hammer

And Dean does his...

I couldn't put that together

Oh, I know what Dean's mind was thinking

Oh yeah, he loves that he has this golden hammer to swing around

Dean wins the golden hammer

Which gives him immunity for the week

Honestly, as much as I love Dean

He's probably the worst person to have immunity week one

Because he's going to come out flying

Like he's going to just cause chaos

He's going to use this to his advantage

You're saying that basically

He's going to throw out the weirdest ideas like a blue roof

So that he can stick around

Do you think that he would have suggested the Santorini room

If he didn't have immunity?

I like the blue roof, blue ceiling

I thought it was great

Honestly, I do think Dean has...

Well, in their house they've painted a lot of their ceilings

And so I think what Dean was thinking was

Hey, a painted ceiling is in right now

And it looks good

I like the painted ceiling definitely

I didn't like the fact that now that room

Is not cohesive with the Italian vibe of the rest of the house

With more of the olive tones

More neutral tones

And now there's this bright white and blue room

But it doesn't fit in

I want to get into that in a second

Hold that thought

Okay

Because I do think it's something to get into

I think he would have recommended it

I doubt he would have been as confident in his opinion

Without knowing that he was going to be around

No matter what

You know, you don't want to be the fall guy

Or the loudest voice, week one

You got to kind of get into it a little bit

Yeah

All right, well what do you want to get into before

We get into the guy's task

Okay, so the show is set up

The competition is set

The guys will be responsible for two smaller bedrooms

And the girls will be, the women will be responsible

For the larger bedroom

With the fireplace

There is a theme given to all of them I believe

Not really

Okay, so it's kind of just shoot you shot and go

And was it fair that the guys had two separate rooms

To maneuver?

Is a question I think viewers will ask

And I would say when it comes to square footage

Yes, when you think about the details and the dynamics of it

No

I think it would have been hard

One thing I'm going to be worried about all season actually

And maybe I'm just too concerned about the family that's living there

Who is it?

Why are we stressed out the entire time watching this thinking about it?

Well, I think I wasn't stressed out until they were like

Hey, we're going to take out this beautiful thing on the ceiling

And then we're going or not even beautiful

Just like massive piece on the ceiling

And we're going to also make the fireplace inaccessible to anybody for future visits

I'm like these are crazy steps you're taking

And not necessarily preferred for me

However, my concern with this show is there is no continuity

So there isn't an overall theme communicated us on what the house should be looking like

It's not modern Italian, it's not set up as clean

It's not necessarily even hey make this just renovate this Tuscan feel to refresh it a bit

There's no continuity throughout the house

So we are going to have a green room with green shades

And a blue room with blue shades

And another room that's Tuscan and feels like very much what I would want my office to look like

And is that how this whole house is going to be?

There should have been like hey guys you have to keep it in the Mediterranean mindset

100% like I want a theme

Because for me one of the most impressive things that a designer does

One of the most impressive things a carpenter does

Is when you walk into a home and you're like it flows

Right? It has an aesthetic that flows from room to room

It doesn't all have to look the thing the same

But at least we understand why this room looks the way it does and this room looks the way it does

But we're going to end up just like patching together different vibes

It's going to be dizzy is what I would use to describe this aesthetic

Well so one we do see the final product of all three rooms which by the way guys

The girls are assigned the primary bedroom

And it or at least what we think is we don't even know is it the bigger girls bedroom now

Whatever it's the bigger one it's the one that I lived in lots of memories and they're awesome awesome to just see it again

And then there are two other bedrooms that are everybody's you know

Just crammed into the past the first two weeks of the season

But in my head I remember and I think that this was a point in my head that I was harping on that the audience would not harp on

But I'm pretty sure they took away two bunks from each room like a bunk from each room

My bedroom had one, two, three, four, five bunks and I think they made it so that it has four bunks now

And then the room that was the Tuscan room that had three bunks and I think there's two in there now

So obviously it's going to look better when you eliminate a bunk

So I'm like okay this looks great for this show but are they got a cram one in there when everybody moves in?

It's a good question. It's a fair question. That's why I want to know who are they doing this for

I'm sure there was I mean these rooms are very rarely shown during the season

They are they're not shown very much so they can just throw one in and make it not look so cute

Yeah, they can they can pack it in somewhere and there was some more there are some other rooms in the house

That we're not so iconic and used that maybe the show can use now to make up for this space

I don't know necessarily how the sleeping arrangements go these days

But Ashley are you concerned with my thought of continuity and chaos in the aesthetic of the house?

I think that while it wasn't said both teams seem to respect the origin

Being of the house which was a Mediterranean and I think that that's how it'll continue to be

I do think that it was not just Mediterranean but it was Italian which I think that two rooms are going with

And that's what the why the the Santorini room stresses me out right now

Because even though it's Mediterranean

Santorini and Tuscany are two completely different looks

Very much so Tuscany is like a farming community you know

Stay I don't like it region stones and so yeah a lot of old architecture a lot of dark woods

And then yeah Santorini is a beach feel

I will see how it goes throughout the rest of the season honestly

Personal Ashley just a personal thought

What do you think about this new trend it's very easy to do DIY and to fix up a room doing this

With the kind of wood slats that go straight up and down with a little space in between

It was used in all both the the women and the men's design

There it's called fluted

Yes, I thought this was on the bunks

And what we see it in the preview for the rest of the season kind of everywhere

It is a very common design right now. What do you think of it? How do you feel?

I don't like it. Yeah, so it's a little hard for me to look out honestly

No, like not like I it's like my eyes can't adjust

Yeah, I'm interesting. I can't get like a point of

Focus when that's kind of sitting beside behind somebody

Which is why I wouldn't put it in my house because I would walk into the room and I it kind of feels

A little too much for me. It is popular though people do like it. They do use it

And it is a very quick way to kind of fix up and clean up any type of wall or any type of paneling needed

But it is used a lot and we see it use a lot throughout the rest of the season

Ashley kind of some final thoughts here obviously

Tasha and Tyler Cameron are the judges this season

It seems like they will be

Used throughout the season where they'll have some guest judges come in for some specific projects

And in Jesse is the main host of the show so we have a lot of voices and power

An influence during this season

Which is good. I think the bachelor is this is coming from a place where the bachelor has year for years trying to figure out

How do we utilize this talent from the past who people followed and loved and still follow in love

How do we continue to use them in ways that benefit the show?

I think this is fine. It's for HUTV. It's good. It makes sense. I like it. It's fun

Do does this feel that void for me the one that I've been saying for years and years that I want them to take couples

I mean obviously this is selfish that I want them to take couples that have had success

And then put them on some competition show where you get to see the couples compete

You know amazing race style or whatnot

Trader style something like that it'd be so fun

But I don't know if it'll ever happen and now with my NBC contract

I don't know that I could ever participate if it happened

Anyway, well I think you make the point that I'm trying to get to I love seeing these familiar faces again

Yeah, but I want to see them. I don't want to just see them stop in like I don't care to see Hannah Brown just stopping on my television

Oh, I'm talking about like the regular cast like I love seeing the regular cast like Jill and Dean and Courtney and Joan

I really even even know I just people that you've become so familiar with I really I had my cup filled in a way with it all

Yes, but to I want to finish the stocks I don't want to sound like I just said I don't want to see Hannah Brown

I do want to see Hannah Brown, but I want to like see her compete again or see her

Get involved in something again. I feel like what they keep bringing the Hannah Browns

and the tashes and the Joe Joe's back

But we miss it because we don't get to actually see them we just see him stop in fill a day roll

Exactly more than a day roll like Hannah Brown was on paradise and what did we what did we learn about Hannah Brown or what did we talk about when it came to Hannah Brown based on her time in paradise

Nothing what are we gonna talk about when it comes to Hannah Brown and her like stop in on this show nothing

It's great to see them. Yes. Does that add anything? I don't think so I think this episode would have been fine if it was just Jesse walking through the rooms

My point is I want to see these people shine on television again and the way we know them to be able to shine

Which is when we get an up close and personal look at their life. So you're saying that you would want to see Tyler and Tasha and Hannah competing in the games.

Yes. Yeah. How do we sit and if not like what are we doing and so then just have Jesse be the host. Yes. Yeah. Okay. That makes sense. All right. I want to see Tyler Cameron have to do stuff too. Yeah.

So that is one thing that I think the show they they wanted to elevate a few people and make it a thing. I just think it feels like we're never gonna experience

Who they actually are and see them compete because one thing I do think will happen this season is I do think drama will ensue I know in my family dynamic

Especially with my parents growing up in a household that did everything ourselves

Very rarely would hire anybody to do anything. There was a lot of outdoor work a lot of indoor work my grandpa was working all the time on his farm

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Okay, but let's actually talk about the drama that we did see

I mean, it was not, I don't think it's ever going to get really dramatic or fiery

But because people needed to eliminate people on their team, there was definitely tension

Sandra didn't feel hurt during the entire day

She was like, and I think I have a big personality, but that I'm next to these girls and like apparently I'm just drowning

And then there was the stealing of the iron that was not real drama

There was the fact that now Chris feels like he has to watch his back because there is people trying to eliminate him left and right

Mainly because I really, I think that's just because he's just not of the same age group

And he's just a little bit left out that he has plenty of stuff

But a note there, he might be the most talented and the most useful one comes to do

Which I'm so glad Dean did not vote him off because he had to do a tiebreaker

Yeah

And I'm glad that he chose to eliminate Jeremy because Jeremy like just doesn't make as much sense there as Chris obviously

And goodness, I mean, I want to see Jeremy kind of have this redemption arc during the show or see kind of his skill set

But I don't know if you felt this way, I'm watching it and I don't know the dynamics internally

But you could tell Jeremy like really just want to be buddies with so many of these guys on the show

And he was like roommates with Dean and they get set up together

And you can tell he's just trying to be like, hey, I'm happy to be your kind of guy

And then the one guy you could tell he really wanted to like buddy up with was Dean

No

And then Dean votes him off and I'm like goodness, this is guy, it's like it was sad to me

It was

It was a little sad

And while like we've always been super hard on Jeremy on other shows

I do find that he's a good, he's good on TV

There's something about him that is interesting to watch

Sure

Because he's a sh**ster, I don't know

Yeah, I think it would have been good TV

But okay, keep going, sorry, I just wanted to note that

That I felt like he was like a puppy dog at times being like, hey, I want to be friends with guys here

And then they're like, hey, get out of here

Yeah

Then there was people, someone really just Sandra having a little beef with Jill

I thought that Jill was just well not being a team player, she walked out of a group meeting

Just saying that it was over

And then she also said that somebody said that Jill was like being kind of too opinionated

Like to my way or the highway

Does she have that in her?

Probably

Yeah

But I also like that about her

But if you're working on a team it is hard when you have that that hard personality

Sure

I don't know if I'm like that in a team, but I know that when it comes to our home

I'm always like, no, that doesn't belong there, I'm sorry

Like I know I told you you could put something somewhere, but no, that doesn't work

You know what I do, I sulk

And I was watching this show and I was like, there's so many moments that I would be sulking

Because my voice wasn't heard or my opinion wasn't shared

And so I get like that even in my own home when I'm like, hey, I think we need to do it this way

Maybe there's an opposite opinion and like, all right, but now I'm the one that has to do it

I don't want to do it the way that I don't want to do it

I would have a hard time because I've been trying to follow in life better

Like be a follower and a leader at times

Being able to step up and lead but also be able to take us back seat

It's, I know this about myself Ashley

I don't take a back seat easily

Yeah, I know that's when Sandra said some people are leaders and then some people have to be followers

I was like, oh, is that how it goes?

Because not on my terms

Yeah, I am not good at it

There's so many moments where I go into something and I'm like, okay, I'm gonna just listen

I'm gonna follow along, I'm gonna have a great time doing it

And then what do I find?

I find myself at some point having the loudest voice, the most direct voice, the most opinionated voice

Well, that's because we're on reality TV

I'm pretty sure that most people on reality TV tend to have the leader personality

This has been a problem my whole life

I think it's an old child thing

Oh, that is an oldest child and only child

Yeah

Somebody in the conversation who is a second child, third child coming here

Yeah, Jessica Jessica follow along so well

She's so good at just hanging out

But, okay, to speed this up a little bit

Ashley, we did remove again Jeremy and Sandra from this episode very early on

There was the finished product as we said

The women did win, the men had to vote out one more person

It's a 2B continued episode

Ashley, who do you think got voted out?

I'm actually super duper torn because everybody there

What is pretty darn qualified to be there constructing and designing and

How sweet of it was Dean to vote for himself even though he can't

Smart, that was smart

So sweet, so Dean and yes, that means he's not eliminated one of the other guys

My gut says it's probably gonna be

I don't know, it could be Noah or Chris I think

I would actually go complete, I think it's Sam

Okay, why?

He didn't have a huge role

He didn't have a huge role, he's one of the two people that have

Like an old school carpentry background and I think they saw

Kind of the usefulness of Chris's skill set, you see Chris doing a lot

You don't see Sam doing a lot

I also think Sam probably came into this

Tired of being known as the villain so he was a little more quiet

At least the first episode I think over time we would see his personality shine

But he was a little more quiet

I also have this feeling that people want to play nice during this show

They don't want this than be like a super dramatic show

And they know that Chris was on the chopping block during the first elimination

I bet they would have a hard time being like yeah Chris we're gonna like double down on that

Yeah

Okay

I guess Sam, I would say Sam I don't think Noah

Because I think he's built enough alliances

He's friendly enough with everyone

Yeah, he's scheming behind the scenes a little bit right now

He's like the ultimate guy who has a connection to everyone too

Yeah, I think Noah would be a hard vote at least right now

What's gonna happen when we get to a certain point where you can't vote people off

Like it's not gonna make like I guess it's just gonna be two on one

And then eventually on the finale

It'll probably be up to like the judges for you know whose project was better

It'll be interesting to watch the season go on

There's one last note that I have to say

And that was that we see carpenters in the background

But they could have explained like we'll have a team to make your dreams become reality

Really quickly didn't explain that

That's how all the HGTV shows work

It's not like you know the property brothers are making the house

Yeah, I mean there's too much when they took down the fixture that was in the middle of the women's room

There was obviously a ton of drywall work and patching work that they've done

So somebody had to work through the night to patch that mud that, sand that

And then get it ready for painting

So yes, there had to be help people helping throughout the day

I do know this and I will share this bit of information

They worked really the contestants did have to work really hard

It was all day things doing like on their hands and knees doing the project

This is not a setup for TV kind of show

The contestants were actually doing the projects but there had to be more hands involved

A little more expertise probably from a few people kind of helping navigate some of the projects

But I know that the contestants in the day were exhausted from the work that had to be done

Which is fun

So I wish I would have seen a little bit more of the handsiness

I think it would be an injustice to us if we don't see more of them working and struggling and failing

Because we didn't see any of them like tossing away of really nice like mahogany during the episode

And somebody being super frustrated

I remember when Marshall told me that the double doors going into the primary bedroom

Insanely intricate doors they were shipped over from India completely handcrafted

They're not going to get rid of these things

No, just say primary

Yeah, there's a lot to this house that I'm assuming has a piece of tape on it saying

Please do not touch, please do not remove

But we'll see as the season goes that's going to be one of the intriguing factors is how much of this house

Do they change and how much do they actually change it?

Ashley after episode one

Are you intrigued by this show?

Yes, it is two hours it does feel like a long time

There was a lot of standing around during this episode

I hope it gets a little more action packed a little more fast paced

I want this to be more in the weeds on how they're doing the projects and who's doing well and who's not

But are you intrigued with this show?

Yeah, definitely I'm excited to see it again

I am too. I think it's going to be good. I think it's going to be fun for us to watch

It's fun for us to watch because it's not like a whole bunch of drama

Yeah, it's fun to see these people like work and get gritty and have to compromise

Yeah, in another element that we're used to seeing

That's right, you're right

Now would I care if...

Yeah, let me see if it wasn't for Bachelor contestants

What if the Bachelor contestants weren't doing this and that were actual experts on the show doing the flip?

Would you be as interested because I guess I probably wouldn't care

No, I think the scene the Bachelor mentioned get redone is it's fun and exciting

And I do love HGTV

Yeah, I do so I do like watching regular houses get flipped

So there might be an element to that but I do think it's fun to see the contestants have to be doing this

I think that's fun

And it does add the only reason I mentioned that little behind the scenes detail

Is it's fun for me to know that these people like a weekend like this was day one

They've gotten good rest

They haven't been lifting anything in a while

But let's see this like a weekend like episode three, four

Yeah

And see how tired and sore some of these people are working on this house

That's when I think things are going to get really good

So it's fun for me to know that the people that came are actually the ones doing the projects

Because I know in my own life

Day one's easy, day two's frustrating

Day three, I'm exhausted and day four I'm ready to get it done

So we'll see how the contestants handle all this

It's fun to see the Bachelor coming up again on our televisions

It's also really great for us to have something to break down

Ashley as we do every first episode of every season that we break down

If you were to pick your guests on who wins

Who would it be?

Can you go first?

Oh no, I don't want you to go first

I feel like Dean's going to win

Okay, I'm going to pick Joan

Mostly because I think it's going to be really hard to vote Joan off

She's so lovable, she's so likable

She's so considerate of other people's opinions and feelings and emotions

That I think she's going to feel like the person that kind of is the glue to bring people together

And I also think she has some talent

And so I just can't see any, I mean how brutal of a human do you have to be right now

To be like I honestly to vote off Sandra or Chris

But then also to be like hey Joan go home

Like I also here's who I hope win

So you want to who outside of Dean because he's a friend

I want to see Courtney win

I do

Courtney is an empathetic character

I know she's a beautiful and wonderful human who you know we both love

And I think she got a bad rap on her time

I think it really hurt her but now she has a family

She said yes to the show and she was taken away from her family for a long period of time

I really would love to see her walk away because I think it would give her that bump

That would be true to who she is

But also give her that encouragement maybe she needs

So my hope is that Courtney sticks around

Yeah Courtney when they had the little round table moment with the girls

She was pretty emotional saying that like she feels like she's lost herself

You know and motherhood and all that

And this is like a way to get part of her own personality back

So it was very relatable and very emotional

And I yeah again like we used to said always like Courtney

But I do feel like she kind of like fell to the wayside in this episode

And I guess I'm just going off Dean because

I just think that he's the personality that stands out the most of everybody

And I do think he only made this anatory decision

Because he had immunity I don't think that he would have done that

Dean would also be a hard person to vote off

That's yeah

Well this has been the first breakdown of HGTV's new show

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