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Wow, I hooked up on the right day finally. Yes, you did. Hello, ARROE. How are you, my friend?
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Yesterday, Daniel, we were doing three radio tours and I see Arrow clicked zoom link for today's
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tour yesterday. Yesterday. I think you want the other tour anyway. Arrow, you're all good. Here's
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Daniel. You'll have till 20 after. Go ahead. See, Daniel, that's the reason I'm in Charlotte,
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North Carolina. Where are you at? Charlotte. Today, I'm in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania,
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but I'm in North Carolina a lot. My brothers live in Wilmington. Yes. Yeah. Well, we call that the
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Hollywood of the East Coast Wilmington. Yes, indeed. Wow. You know, this is one of those movies,
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Daniel, that we're not going to be able to shake off and we're going to be talking about it when
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we give it to our grandkids to watch and those beyond us because there's something about this
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movie that is very real. And of course, I want to attach it because it's high school football
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in every town. I don't care how big it is. We love our high school football.
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Yes, sir. And Arrow, in fact, in this movie, so what I've done is I've got the team,
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our fictional team is playing as my high school football team. Yes. The Bethlehem Catholic
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Golden Hawks. But then I took the bands. There's two very famous competing bands in Bethlehem,
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the Liberty High School Grenadiers and the Freedom Patriot Band. And you know, we got permission
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from the school board to combine them and put them in the movie together. And so it's very powerful.
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If you come from the Lea Valley and I look at there's one shot where Beck is coming out of the
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tunnel and you see Liberty, Freedom, and Beck are all in the same shot. And I think that's Bethlehem.
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And that's that's our fall right there. It's those three teams
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banging into each other and other teams for, you know, for 10 weeks. That's what everyone's fall is.
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Well, you make me wonder now about what do we miss in life because of these high school rivalries
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because I wouldn't go to to different areas of Montana because of the Great Fall bison's. And
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you know, Billings was we were state champions, but anything that I do with Great Falls Montana,
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I ain't going there because you're a rivalry and I just can't stand you.
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It is true. You know, well, I mean, there's been Dr. Jordan Peterson's talked about tribalism a lot.
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Like that tribe. Look, when we were kids, we were kids in Bethlehem. I went to St. Anne's and
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then there was Notre Dame. And we were maybe the two parishes that for whatever reason clashed in
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all the Catholic youth organizations, didn't matter if it was a football game or a talent show or
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whatever. And we just hated Notre Dame. And to this day, when I drive by Notre Dame, you know,
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I always make some joke about the gold they stashed under their altar. And it just makes it
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just amazing. These are particularly nuts people. But that's interesting. Well, Montana, I'm glad
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you know, our producer, we make these movies just by the way, through a not-for-profit called
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a Janile piece. And Aaron McClain, my partner in the not-for-profit, she was going to help make it
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reality is from great falls. So I can tell you there's some nice people and great falls.
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Yeah, I got to get up there then. I really do. But you know, one of the coolest things about
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this is that we all want to go back to our high school to visit it. And you got to go there.
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Did it seem just as small because it just feels like when you go back the whole world shrunk?
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Yeah, that's fun. Yeah, I've been there. Yeah, that's true. I think we're a great school.
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I always think it's funny to go to great school. You remember where the trophies were in the cabinet
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when you'd look out at them. And now you look down at them. But yeah, go and go and home.
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I've made now four movies in my hometown. And I love it. So I'm often in places that, you know,
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in fact, when we made Lucky Louie, when we made Lucky Louie, we used the
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content of my grade school as our kind of our meeting place. And you know, we were down in the
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basement where the nuns used to sew my pants. We were in the kitchen where the nuns used to make me
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lunch. And you know, there's no sisters in it now. It's just a building. And it's just interesting
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to be able to go visit places as an adult and and have a different perspective. Yeah. Don't you
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think that Jake Bauer is going to become iconic in the way that we can't tell if he's a bitter man
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or just a grumpy old syndrome type of guy. It's just we all are attracted to people like Jake
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in the way that it's like we know him. But it's like that I'm going to be honest with you.
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Give me 10 minutes with him and I'll change him. I'll make him a happy camera. Yeah.
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I think you can make anybody a happy camper. You're a very nice man.
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But yeah, I think that there's a Jake Bauer in everyone's life. Yes.
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There's somebody who who's just you think, you know, you're just being an ash.
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And it's just because you refuse to let the love of God in. Yes.
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That's all it takes. One of my favorite scenes in the movie or some lines in the movie,
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you know, I mean, I'm not like one of my favorite lines. I wrote them all. But he says,
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you know, I don't believe in God. And she says, well, good news. He believes in you.
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So that's working out just fine. You're speaking my street. You know, you say that.
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Yeah. Yeah. So we've all got we've all like like you want to, I mean, I don't want to
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what I don't understand about about, let's say an atheist. And I'm not, this is not the writing.
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I just don't understand why do you want the responsibility of creation? Why do you, you know,
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why do you want to believe that you are the architect of everything? Because because if you
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believe you're the architect of everything, then you're also the architect of the stuff that goes
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wrong. That's right. Well, as a guy believes in God, I've seen the stuff that goes wrong as the
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obstacle that I need to overcome, not something I create it. Sometimes, by the way, let's be honest,
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sometimes they are obstacles we create. And that's really what Jake's life is about. And he's,
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his own obstacles that he's put in his own way and his own lack of belief in his,
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the betterment of his heart. So I don't, I mean, I don't get it. But, but ultimately, you know,
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we pray for all people and we hope that all people have, in the end, in the end, I don't know.
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In the end, if you've lived a good life in your good person, you know, some faith believe you
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have to have a very specific line of thinking, you know, I don't know, because I know God
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personally, but I don't know him well. I don't know ultimately what, how that's going to work out.
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But, you know, this movie is a reminder that even if you have fallen, you, you, you don't have to
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worry, you can always fix it. And sometimes you just have to trust other people. And you have to
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just believe that other people believe in you. So once you say that this movie, the Hail Mary,
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in reality, it's like dropping the four walls of the church and you put the church language
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in modern day, everyday speak. And you go, here's a movie I want you to watch. You're going to
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feel something. I don't care, you know, I don't care who you are or what you've experienced in life.
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You're going to feel something in this movie. Call it what you want, but you're going to feel
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something. Yeah, I hope that I like to say I'm not preaching to the choir. I'm preaching to the
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people drive by the church. And I think that through humor and good storytelling, that's how you
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capture them. And honestly, that's, I think, you know, I've been in other movies and I've seen
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other movies. I don't think every faith breaks movie, you know, they're just too formulaic. It's
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like a hallmark movie. And if it's formulaic, maybe you watch it and you know the outcome. But I'd
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rather have you not know what's going to happen next. And in this movie, I, I defy, I hope people
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keep the end secret because not knowing what happens next is a big part of its success.
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Yeah, I think that making the nuns completely real like the sisters I had were completely authentic
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real human beings. They were stereotypes. Not one of them was a stereotype. They were all intricate,
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beautiful people who were doing the best they could for society and giving up so much for society.
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Please do not move. There's more with actor Daniel Robuck coming up next.
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The name of the movie The Hail Mary. We're back with actor Daniel Robuck. Yeah, I love the way
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that you do that you humanize the girls and the nuns. And the reason why is because I work at
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a position just because I wanted to have an essential job to be with real people. If you want to be
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with church, go to the, go to the community. Where are people at? The community is at the grocery
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store. So when the nuns come walking through our store, dude, I will go and have a real conversation
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with them and it freaks people out because what is what is he doing talking to the nuns? Why not?
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They're real people. Yeah, and they're, they're just great like us. There's, we, there's, it's so hard
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actually to find like habitant sisters anymore. Because even, even the sisters are saying,
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Joseph, when I told them I was making the movie, they don't wear their habits anymore.
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Two, maybe two die hard sisters still do, but they said, don't, are you going to make us wear
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habits? And I said, well, I need the audience to know that you're who you are. So, you know,
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you saw the movie. We came up with a kind of a middle ground where they're all, they all wear
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veils, but they're given an opportunity to, to dress out. They wouldn't put sister Catholics
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says, but you know, I hope it scares the boys.
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Dude, I mean, the thing about it is if you've never been gripped in the arm by a nun or a sister,
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holy God, you will never forget that grip when they, because you've been talking in class all day
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and all of a sudden you feel your arm grabbed by a sister. Oh my God.
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Yeah, I just, I remember once there was a kid, Mike Koch who was a bully in school.
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I remember he took a swing at the nun, maybe in fourth grade sister, Ansel, and then we never saw
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him again. Oh God. I just thought, well, well, he's dead. I don't know, I don't know where you
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go when you try to hit a nun, but it can't be good. But I always wonder what happened to Mike.
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I hope he's okay. So now when you talk about the sisters not wearing their habits these days,
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inside my mind, I'm going, you know what? Daniel is a type of person who's very creative in his
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heart and mind and believe so much in the universe. He would be the one that could reinvent the flying
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nun, sister, betrayal, and not have to have a habit. I think you could be that guy. She'd have to have,
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but the whole thing was the wind, the habit in her wind. And remember that she weighed the perfect
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weight. Yep. You'd have to put a hairdo on on the on the uninhabited sister, betrayal. But remember
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how simple and lovely the flying nun was. What a great, what a great, what a great little show.
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For whatever for two years, you know, you, that was what was on TV was wholesome, happy,
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entertainment. I, you know, oh, you, you, you, you know, you're a podcaster, right? You're in,
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in the business. They, you know, they keep writing these articles about how, how no, the Hollywood's,
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you know, the studio where I shot a series is, you know, CBS Radford where they shot Seinfeld,
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that studios, they might disappear. Yep. It's like, it's in a rears. They're foreclosing.
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And they keep blaming this or that, but nobody will claim the real thing. You're not making anything
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that anybody wants to see. That's right. That's right. That's why no one's watching.
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See, and that's one of the reasons like when I go to a movie, I like watching the people around
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me just as much as I like watching that screen because I'm getting energy from those that are
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sitting there laughing, chewing on their fingernails or eating their popcorn going to the bathroom
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because there's entertainment there because that movie is affecting them. And it's like, oh my god,
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I'm with real people. Yeah. And that's one of the things I love about. I mean, I know we're
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changing how this is done. But, you know, if, if Netflix buys Warner Brothers, we're in trouble.
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It's going to, it's going to be bad because the movie theaters as it is are just barely holding on.
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But if they take the window from 45 days down to 17, you know, the people, we're not going to see
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movies with people. We're going to see movies with our kids or our wives. And that's all we're going
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to see. But as the guy who makes the movie to stand in the back of the theater,
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to hear them all laugh at a thing that you thought of eight years earlier at a very specific
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joke that you worked and worked and worked. When you wrote it, then you worked and worked and
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worked when you filmed it. And then you worked and worked and worked when you edited it. And when
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it lands and they all laugh and you go, that's, I mean, that's my, that's, that's, that's what I need.
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I keep putting this out there. I don't want it to happen till 95. But I'd be okay dying on stage
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in the middle of a play. I love it. You know, especially like if I could hold out to, and the
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mirror is, yeah, boom. And then you die. That's, that's kind of what I'm like. I'd like to ruin
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everybody's night at the theater. I think one of the reasons why the Hail Mary affects me so deeply
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here in Charlotte is because of Brian May, who's the quarterback for the Patriots. And he came from
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Myers Park. We know, we don't say he's from Charlotte. He's from Myers Park. And those mustangs
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are a major part of this community. So when I saw this, I'm sitting there going, my god, this,
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this must be what, what would he went through in order to get up to where he is with the
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Patriots? He went through with something like this because I mean, and that's the kind of movie
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this is. It's so real. Oh, thank you. I'm so grateful, Auro, that we're having this conversation.
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You're saying such nice things. Listen, the whole thing's a blessing to me that I get to make
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these movies. It's just an extraordinary gift. And, and I hope they touch everybody like they
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touch you. I hope that, I hope that people go see it. I think we're playing in, I think we're playing
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in Winston Salem. I got a ticket for playing in Charlotte. Yeah. But please, it's the February 27th,
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the movie opens wide. And it'll be viewable after that. But I think I really do agree with you.
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I think it will move people. And if you have a chance to see the other movies getting grace
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for Lucky Louis or St. Nick of Bethlehem, they'll all touch you and move you and move your heart in
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some way. We got to give kudos to regal regal at a stone crest here in Charlotte because they
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put up a faith based movie. And my God, the people come that place is always crowded. And, and it's
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not like watching the big movies that everybody else thinks they're going to go watch. But once you
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get a faith based movie in there, and maybe it's because we have so many churches here in Charlotte,
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the theaters fill up. I just wrote it down. I'm going to fuck out who they are. I don't know if
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we're playing in any regals, but that would be great. The regal in Charlotte. I'll look that up.
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Thank you so much, Aurobe. Well, the thing about it is, though, is that faith based movies are not
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what they used to be. And the thing about it is, is that we do want to feel good walking away. We
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also want to feel good sitting in the seats and sit there and create conversations between all of us.
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Yeah. And what I do believe, because I've seen it, when I said this before, I saw it with getting
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grace. We'll be about finding faith. Yeah. That's what getting grace. We took it on a tour,
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Muslims, Mormons, Christians, Catholics, Jews. The fact is, it doesn't matter that these are
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Catholic nuns. This movie is about finding a faith in God and recognizing God's love for you
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intrinsically. So it doesn't matter, you know, just doesn't matter. This film, you know,
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scored so well at Angel Studios, and they're, you know, they represent a white swath.
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Yes, they do. Christian believe me. You know, we feel very strongly that the movie's message
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is universal. And that's the kind of movies I try to make, although this movie
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is through a Catholic lens, it doesn't matter. It's still, it's the story of faith,
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not how you get to it. Where can people go to find out more about you and give you some love
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in supporting this and getting that word out there? It's time for everybody to become influencers.
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Thank you so much. Thank you. Go to a channel of peace dot org. They can learn how we make these
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movies through this now for profit. A channel of peace dot org. You know, I don't,
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these movies we've made so far, I don't take a salary at all. Or does anybody else name
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Robock? By the way, my daughter got married and pointed out that she's technically not a robot
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anymore. So she will be expecting a paycheck like everyone else gets on the next movie.
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But they go channel peace dot org or follow me, Mr. Daniel Robock, an Instagram or Daniel Robock.
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On Facebook. And yeah, if you can get word out about the movie, that'd be great. You know,
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tell them you go see the Hail Mary. No, not that one, the smaller one, the Hail Mary film.
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I got to give you one more pat on the back because my father would love the fact of having
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a conversation with you. He grew up with Brian Dennehy. I get the opportunity to see whose next
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after Brian Dennehy and it's you. You are that character actor.
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Oh, that's, that's really sweet. I got to work with Brian once. Oh, my God. I was so impressed with
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him. I was so grateful to have just, I think I had one or two scenes with him. You know,
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when I remember there was another actor, that important who it was, but I remember Brian Dennehy
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saying under breath, tell him, remind that guy he's acting in a box. This the actor was moving
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around a lot. Brian Dennehy, this knew that he was spinning to, you know, just sit and act.
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That's all you have to do. Oh, my God. What a great guy. Oh, my God. Please come back to this show
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anytime in the future. The door is always going to be open for you. Thank you. Oh, thank you so
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much. God bless you and your listeners. Well, you be brilliant today, okay, sir.
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We're going to try. Thank you, sir. Thank you.