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How are you doing today, Sam?

I'm doing great. Look forward to talking to you.

This is one of those situations where I've sat down with more

Philly fans and what the thing is is that I've run into people that say

there are certain things we're not supposed to talk about.

I said, damn, that's the best conversation to have then.

Wait till I talk with Sam because we are going to talk about it.

Why hasn't it taken 50 years for everybody to say, yeah, that's my team.

Yeah, that's my team.

Yeah, that's the me and our question.

I mean, even the flyers that won the cups in the seventies

are asking that question.

They never thought that 51 years later, the flyers

would still be looking for another cup.

But mostly the club notes answer is bad goal tending,

bad management and bad luck.

They've been to the final six times since they won it.

And they usually ran into a team that was a dynasty,

you know, a Montreal or Edmonton or Chicago.

The team they lost to was either in the middle of a dynasty

or starting one, the islanders as well.

So yeah, it's kind of baffling.

But I would say the number one reason is they have not had good goal tending

during those, during a lot of those five decades.

Specifically 2010.

They should have won the cup in 2010.

They lost in game six in the finals to Chicago

and the flyers goal tending was abysmal.

Chicago's was bad and the flyers goal tending was even worse.

Where they wanted to won the cup in that season.

But that's the last time they got to the finals.

Well, see, and that's the one thing that I've always loved about hockey

is that dude, you just don't know if your goal is going to show up tonight

and it doesn't matter how many beers you have out there in the stands

or how loud you are or how many colors you've got on your body

with those uniforms or those jerseys on.

Man, it's like that team has fallen apart.

We got to, we got to support them as a city.

Yeah, no question.

And, you know, the flyers got spoiled in their early years

because they had Bernie Pratt.

That's the ironic thing.

The very first player drafted by the flyers

and the expansion draft way back in 1967 turned out to be the best goal

in their history still.

51, no.

Yeah, I guess more than 50 years later.

Bernie Pratt.

And he led them to their two cups.

And here we are.

Let's see, 67.

I'm doing the math right.

Like 59 years later, he is still to this day the best goalie in their history.

Who would have thought he turned in the whole theme,

whole theme, whole theme person.

Unfortunately, we lost Bernie several months ago.

He passed away at age 80 and just a class act on and off the ice.

I miss Bernie immensely, but he was the heart and soul of the flyers.

And people thought he didn't realize it at the time how good he was.

And they have not had a goalie like him since then.

How is it that the Cubs have been able to embrace their losing throughout the years.

And yet when it comes to the flyers, it's like it's that hidden secret like we talked about.

I mean, because I don't mind being part of the loser team or even down there with the Saints in New Orleans.

You know, when they put the bags over their head, that's cool stuff.

That to me is what the sports are all about.

Well, you know, I think the fact that it's been so long now since they've been competitive.

And this year, they finally are competitive.

But they have not made the playoffs the last five years.

If they don't make it this year, that'll be the longest stretch without a playoff earth in history.

And I guess since the flyers were split, it was split of the fans in the beginning.

And we're so successful.

And believe it or not, there were successful many, many years even after that.

They always were in contention for a cup just in win-win.

And these fans are star because of that.

You know, they remember the good days and they say, hey, you don't have to be a world-beer or a win-the-cup this year.

But at least give us the hope.

And they haven't even done that.

And even this year, even if they sneak into the playoffs, and they're making a great run.

They won seven straight row games right now as we speak.

But even if they do sneak in, everybody expects them to get knocked down in the first round.

But I think they would be okay with that.

Like you said, you know, it wouldn't be a love of a loser, but it would be, hey, at least we made some progress.

We made the playoffs.

Now, next year, let's take it a step further.

Let's win a round.

That kind of thing.

But it's been tough, especially when you see the success of Phillies and the Eagles have had.

Now, fill it up if fans now.

They want a champion because they've seen it in the other sports.

Well, Jerry Valencourt used to tell me all the time because he was a New York guy.

And he would use to tell me he would go, dude, I love it when the flyers lose.

I said, why do you say that to me all the time?

And he goes, because I love the mystique of the flyers.

If you take away that mystery and that shadow that the flyers have, then he says, I lose something in my own personal life as a New York fan.

And I'm going, dang it, I don't want the flyers to be that team.

If you know what I mean.

Yeah, yeah, that people, I think people from outside the Philadelphia region love to hate the flyers because they were good for good for so long.

They were the broad street bullies.

They beat up teams.

We should say they were also very talented.

Even those broad street bullies teams, you know, don't get the wrong idea.

They did not win because they manhandled people with their physicality.

They won because they were aggressive, yes, but they won because they were ultra talented.

You had three Hall of Famers, Barry Proud, who I mentioned.

You had Bill Barber, the great Bobby Clark.

You had two guys that were brutalized Hall of Famers, Rick McLeish, Reggie Leach.

And you had role players that did their job.

I was at the Ross Lonesbury's and Ed Van and Barry Ashby.

I could go on and on, Joe Watson, Jimmie Watson.

I could go on forever.

And they all fit together.

They they were a true team.

And that's what you need.

I mean, you see that in the championship teams nowadays.

Maybe the hurricanes down in your area will be a stainless cup chipping.

They have that, not only the camaraderie but the chemistry.

Right.

pieces all seem to fit and the flyers had that and they haven't had it and it won't

done.

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The name of the book, bullies, we're talking about the fill it up your flyers with Sam Carchidi.

What I love about you, Sam, is the fact that you are giving us building blocks for our

own little teams and that you help us understand what it's like to create a team, to keep that

team together.

Win or lose, they still have to play that game no matter what.

I don't care what their mood is that day.

They still got to get on that ice and make it happen.

So I mean, I'm so inspired by the way that you built this book that you are authentic with

this.

You are not doing a fantasy trip here for a bunch of sports fans.

Yeah, it's funny.

The flyers actually are going to push the rail in their inception and Ed Snyder, the owner,

likened it to his life.

I mean, he was bullied and pushed around when he was a youngster growing up in Washington,

DC and he said, you know, this isn't going to happen to us.

You know, we got, you talk about building blocks, he said, we have to go out and draft bigger

players, aggressive players.

We still want talent, but we need bigger players.

And that in a way was the advent of the Broad Street bullies.

They went out and drafted guys like Bob Kelly and Dave Schultz and Don Celesky.

And then the other guy started to develop the Bobby Clarks and the Bill Barbers and the

Bernie Broad and you put it all together and you had a cohesive team, but you know, that

was one thing we learned from doing this book that Ed Snyder was a big force, the owner

behind it.

And put his personal stamp on it and, but a lot of it came from his personal upbringing

and getting beat up by anti-Semitic kids in his neighborhood in Washington, DC and he

put his stamp on the club and, and lo and behold, the Broad Street bullies were created.

Wouldn't you like to be in those skates when everything started to come together and even

when it was falling apart, just to be in those skates, to watch eye to eye contact and

even body language to each other because when you're on that ice, if you're not watching

somebody's body, you're missing out on a big, big part of that game.

Yeah.

As I said, I think that's a good point.

And, but as I mentioned, everybody on that team knew the role.

Yeah.

You know, Terry Chris knew that he wasn't going to get many minutes.

He was going to kill Penelope, though.

And he did a great job doing that, you know, the third and fourth line guys that Bob

Kelly's and the Don Solarski's, they knew they weren't, they were going to maybe get

10 minutes a night, but they just wanted to dominate when they were on the ice.

And even if they didn't score, they wanted to give the rest of the team momentum by throwing

their bodies around, checking people.

And maybe the next line company that came out on the ice, they would score because of

the momentum that they build up.

They dominated their, their shifts.

So, you know, everybody knew the role.

And I think that's, that's a common denominator with the teams that go on and win Stanley Cook's.

You, you show so much humanism inside this book in the way that, I mean, I, I giggled

like a child when I read about, you know, Dave, the hammer with that, with that penalty

box song.

I had never heard that song before and I'm going, damn, why can't we just bring this song

back?

In fact, I want to talk to the flyers.

I think they should play that song nowadays whenever somebody goes into the penalty box.

Just play for in 10 seconds, you know, the baby, how long you're going to keep me in the

penalty box.

I mean, it was really bad, just like my singing was there.

His song was bad, Dave admits it was bad, but he became a cold hero in Philadelphia.

At that time, Elton John had filled up your freedom, you know, it was like number one

old country.

But Dave Schultz and filled up your penalty box.

His song was number one in Philadelphia for weeks.

You know, it was the most requested song.

It was number one in the ratings back then, WFIL and and WIBG were the top 40 stations

and Dave Schultz's song was, was number one, back in the day, they had a variety show

on coast to coast, like Douglas show.

And Dave performed it on that show nationally and he would perform it, you know, at concerts

with, you know, you would go on stage, you know, with different groups and sing a song

and in the Philadelphia area, the people went crazy over it and it was just a fun time

all the way around.

Clarence Campbell did not shock me when he made the comment about Americanizing the

game of hockey because I come from Montana.

We had those Canadian players in Montana all the time, I went to high school with them.

They said the same exact thing.

You don't play the game like it's supposed to be played then show me, show me what you

mean on the ice then did the flyers really kind of open up on that too.

It's like, if you're so good up there in Canada, bring it to my city and let's make it

grow.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They did and they had a chip on their shoulder for Clarence Campbell because the flyers going

into the expansion ear, they were scramble and they get the last $500,000 for the fee.

The fee was $2 million at the time and the fee is like $7 or $100 million.

It's crazy to think that but Clarence Campbell, when they gave him the check, he says, I

would be surprised if it's check bounces.

No.

I mean, that was the attitude he had and he was disappointed because the six teams that

were at it in 1967 were all from the states and as you said, he was a Canadian guy and

he wanted more Canadian teams in the league and that really set him back and the flyers

had run ins with him all the time.

He was always finding the flyer players, giving them suspensions and in 1976 the flyers are

playing the Soviets, they called the Cold War game and the Soviets had dominated the NHL

teams.

They had not lost a game when their tour, flyers were their last game and Clarence Campbell

actually went to the flyers locker room to give them a quote-unquote pep talk and saying,

hey, you're standing up not only for the NHL, you're standing up for North America and

the flyers said, you're a hypocrite, we don't want you in the locker room, you're always

complaining about our style and now you're saying we represent the NHL in North America.

The doors over there at Clarence Campbell left and the flyers course won that game four

to one and they saved face for the NHL but you're absolutely correct, Aaron, they did

not have a friendly relationship with Clarence Campbell.

Well I'm shocked that something did not happen out on that ice because to this day after

all these years I got checked at the side of the ice because I was saying a bunch of junk

and that was their way of shutting me up in hockey was to put that knee in my knee and to

this day I wibble and I wobble but I don't fall down but they still injured me on that

ice to which I'm still carrying today.

Yeah well there were many a checks and many of many spears but it was a different game

back then.

Now the game is all about finesse and fancy skating and good passing and I'd like to

see that to a certain extent but I miss some of the physicality that the game had back

in the 70s and yeah I think there's a place for both but they did change the rules and

they make it a lot easier now but for instance they would always call the they would not

call the slashing if you slash somebody in their hands and really tighten up on that early

2000s because guys are breaking fingers and great stick handlers were a little leery going

through the neutral zone as they carried the puck as I knew a slash was coming so yeah

some of the rules I totally understand and respect because it let the little guy back

in the game which is a good thing but I don't think I think there is a place I should

say for the physical nature of the game and I think there should be a balance between

the finesse game and the physical game.

So do you think a book like this reopens that door to get that little guy back in the

game because it's going to create talk especially since you're teaming up with Balboa

productions to put this on TV you're going to be the talker you're going to be the activator

and we're all going to start starving for exactly what you're talking about.

Yeah we're hopeful as I said we're hoping to get this made into a TV series and it would

talk mostly it would center mostly around their lives off the ice and that kind of character

development and talking would probably be 25% of it and but that was a very colorful group

I mean we have a whole chapter on on their ventures at Rexies bar where they hung out

and there were everyday guys these guys were on their way to become Stanley Cup champions

they would buy you know people will come in sit with them at the bar and they would buy drinks

for each other they thought of them as working class people they thought themselves as

working class people and they were to them they were you know there was no difference

between them earning a paycheck playing hockey and somebody who was an iron worker or somebody

who pump gas or somebody that worked behind a desk hey we're all you know working hard

for our check and and you know we're not better than you you're not better than me that

kind of thing and that's why I think that team was so belonged because they didn't let it go

to their heads. Wow you got to come back to this show anytime in the future but before we check

out you got to let me know where people can find you and really dive into your passion for this game.

Yeah we you can reach me at you can email me at Sam Cartgeti at Sam C-A-R-C-H-I-D-I-55 at gmail.com

and yeah you can get the book at 1amazon.com it's probably the best word but I can't thank you

enough for the time error. Oh man I can't wait to talk with you again sir you'd be brilliant

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