The Invisible Terrain: Orgone Energy and the Frequency Fence | Sharon Daphna

0:00by using the organite and being exposed to an increased life force energy all the time. My senses improved and that was then able to perceive the harm the EMF was doing to me. So the frequency fence really is a mind control signal. It prevents us from sensing properly and therefore from thinking straight. It literally is affecting the brain's function. Greetings and love beautiful humans. It's Ben Hardy, co-host of the show, Brother Ben, terrain theory Ben. If you've been with us for a while, you know this isn't our first organ rodeo. Mitch, the organ donor, has been on the show a couple times now and those conversations introduced us to organite will him Reich in this idea of a frequency fence, an indiscible energetic environment that most of us move through every single day without giving it much thought. Now this conversation was shined off now pushed us further into the space or down the hole as it because if there's one idea that keeps resurfacing on terrain theory, it's that you cannot

1:02separate an organism from its environment. An environment in this case means a hell of a lot more than the four walls surrounding you or the trees dotting the side of the trail you walk on. We live surrounded by signals, cell towers, Wi-Fi, smart meters, cell phones, power lines, frequencies passing through our homes and our bodies every second of every day. We can't see them, most of the times we can't feel them, although some of us can, but that doesn't mean they are there. Sharon has spent the last 12 years exploring what she believes is the other side of that energetic equation. Orgone, the life force energy described by Wilhelm Reich, an organite, devices she and others insist can change the energetic terrain around us or transmute what Reich called dangerous radiation into a more coherent field. She's been exploring it, studying it, researching it, and documenting her findings. Now, whether you're already completely on board with that idea or you're sitting there thinking, okay, you're going to have to show us this one. Good. That's exactly where an interesting conversation begins. Underneath the organite, the frequency fence, the weather,

2:06and some pretty deep rabbit holes we go down in this episode is an idea that we think matters. Maybe tending to our terrain isn't just about defending ourselves from everything that's supposedly trying to harm us. Maybe it's also about remembering how much influence we have over the environment within us and the environment around us. And if we've been conditioned to believe we're powerless in either one of those or both, perhaps that's the first frequency we need to change. Now, before we jump in, I offer the invitation to support us over on Patreon in return for weekly bonus episode content for members ears only. Head to patreon.com slash terrain theory to get signed up. And if you're digging this conversation and others, please leave a rating and review and share it with one other person who might find it interesting. These actions take but a few minutes and have long lasting impact on our ability to welcome new audience members into the conversation. As always, we deeply appreciate you. So many of you have been reaching out and sharing your own journeys into the terrain space, as well as other interesting spaces. And we absolutely love hearing from you and learning that

3:11what began as a humble little passion project now reaches audiences at all four corners of the wait for it realm or at least the corners we're aware of or the corners we're allowed to travel to. All right, enough babble. Let's get back into Oregon, Oregonite, the frequency fence and more. Over to Sharon Daphna and welcome back to terrain theory. All right, we are recording Sharon Daphna. Welcome to the terrain theory podcast. Thank you so much. So glad to be here. Sharon, we are going to talk about Oregon, Oregonite. For someone out there who's hearing the word Organite for the first time, I want you to define it. Organite is an energy device that generates life force energy or Oregon energy. It's not to be confused with, you know, hippie crafts, you know, arts and crafts kind of stuff because there's a lot of stuff out there called but when I talk about Oregonite, I'm talking about specifically a simple energy device that combines

4:13quartz crystals, fine metal shavings and a copper coil in resin. And this is specifically put together in a way to generate life force energy out of the various elements in it through the compression of resin on them. So when I talk about it, I'm talking about something that neutralizes deadly radiation through putting out a counterfield and is constantly generating life force energy for our benefit. So I can get more into how it works. But in the short, the short answer is that when the resin catalyzes around these metallic and crystalline elements, it amplifies the already present Oregon energy in these elements and activates their piezoelectric properties to create an energy field far stronger than any of these things will create on their own. We use Oregonite to neutralize electromagnetic fields in the home and in the environment. And this is for our health and for the health of the atmosphere. What are you using to measure the Oregon energy? So this is why consensus science does not like Oregon energy. It can't be measured.

5:19It can be observed and it is subjective. So in the human body, it would be really, you would see health health effects. You would see an increase of health. You would feel different. But this is all so subjective. So you can't really measure it in a human, but in the environment, the way we do it is through repetition and seeing the same results over and over again in the atmosphere and in the weather. So again, consensus science doesn't like this. I even had an AI discussion with Google the other day. I sometimes like to ask these questions to see what is the what's being programmed into the AI right now that people are going to be reading if they want to look this up. And it pretty much told me that my method is based on pattern recognition and science doesn't recognize that. It has to be done in a controlled laboratory setting and measured. Unfortunately, with weather phenomena, you just can't do that. And so all of our way of measuring the effects is on weather. We don't so much focus on what it does for us. We're not doctors, but we've been out in the field for 12

6:22years using it in the environment in various climates. All so many cities. I can go over all the places we've done this. And we have photographed and recorded the same results over and over again in terms of what the clouds do, what air pollution does, and the weather effects. What are the after effects of it? And again, that's very hard for science to measure because weather can't be the same set of circumstances as can't be repeated, you know, to without the organized and then with it. So we just have to do pattern recognition and see the same thing over and over again. Got it. I mean, as it relates to weather, you can take measurements like humidity, relative humidity, precipitation. These are measurable results. Yes. And these are the measurements that I grab off of the the National Weather Service. And news stories on the weather following our work, especially gifting projects where we put the organite into the environment. And so yeah, there are measurable results, but the cause can't be

7:26measured. And that is the really difficult thing because meteorology is the study of effects. Even though they will say the air pressure or the temperature of the ocean is causing these things, those are in fact effects of a greater cause. So meteorology is the study of effects. Organomy is the study of causes. It gets to the root of what causes those weather effects that then is what meteorology measures. The past conversations we've had on this topic, they always seem to lead back to Wilhelm Reich. And I know that his work is foundational to the work that you're doing and many others in this space, or gonomy, are doing. Do we have evidence of organ energy being identified prior to Reich? How far back does this go? This goes back to antiquity. Ancient cultures have recognized life force energy. They call it Qi or Prana. There are many words for it. American Indians did the rain dance ceremonies, drumming up the cosmic life force

8:29energy. This is not something that was measured scientifically, but this is something that was indigenous knowledge for eons. Only in recent times did it finally get studied in a lab. And Wilhelm Reich did study it in a lab. I mean, he was able to observe it in a lab through this blue luminescence put out by organisms, he called bions, which they spontaneously generated and sealed vacuum tubes that were sterilized. So he found some stuff that was completely contrary to consensus science even in his time. But yes, prior to Reich, this has been well-known knowledge throughout the world. When you say spontaneously, say that word again? Spontaneous generation, which we learned in science class doesn't happen. Right. I mean, you're talking about creation of life itself. Yeah, because organ energy is the life force energy. Science really hates it because it goes beyond their ability to understand and measure in their framework.

9:31When you do your research into things like Chi and Prana and any of the other words that were given by indigenous cultures to life force energy, do you see a lot of overlap or is there just enough overlap that you can say this is all kind of referencing the same thing? And if so, if there's real great overlap or it's all just a different word for the same thing, why do we call it organ energy? Why not continue to use Chi or Prana? Well, this is the word that Wilhelm Reich used for it because it was associated with the human orgasm. He found that the life force energy was related to sexual energy. And so he found a word that would describe it. And I also think that in science, and since he was a scientist, he's not just some guy off the street. He was very well-known biologist and psychologist. He studied under Freud. He was maligned for finding this thing that's beyond human understanding

10:34and that could do things that would just upend the establishment. That's pretty much we can get more into that. But yeah, this was a word he wanted to come up with a scientific term for it. And so organ energy described it very well for him. And nowadays people don't like to use that word, actually, because it's been so smeared in the media and in academia for so long. They use other words like scalar waves and stuff like that. It's all the same thing. It's all the same thing. Yeah. Well, we're no strangers in the terrain space to seeing the mainstream kind of smear and discredit any sort of finding that subverts their foundations. And it sounds like this starts to do that for certain aspects of science or other fields of science. As you said, spontaneous generation is not supposed to be able to happen. Right. That was a big problem. Yeah, that was a big problem. What were some of the other problems that the mainstream had and continued to have with this idea of organ energy?

11:36The main problem is there's a control structure. This is the root of everything here. There's a control structure on this world that depends on people not knowing the power that they have. I mean, ultimately, the biggest reason why this work was so suppressed. It continues to this day. You guys are very rare podcasters to have this topic on your show. They just cannot have us knowing that things that we would have thought were impossible are in fact possible and can be achieved today for our health and for this planet. They just don't want us to know you know, how much we can do to solve these problems. And you see an organ energy in particular as that path? It is the path. I think it essentially underlies everything. So when you're talking about terrain theory and the health of the organism, underneath everything is energy because our life is energy. We are energetic beings. We have an electrical system in our bodies. We have to

12:37understand it or we're never going to truly be healthy. Yeah, I can't argue with that. What what else did did right discover around organ? The spontaneous generation is obviously a fascinating one and I can see why you would hold that up. What else did you have you learned? Well, the main thing is again with society and how it is varying this. When we're exposed to the opposite radiation of organ, organ is healthy life giving energy, but we're in an energetic war where there is an opposing force which he named deadly organ radiation or DOR. I'm going to shorten it to deadly radiation because I don't want people to get confused and think that organ can be bad. But that's what he called it and we're ultimately in an energetic war and all of the world's problems can be traced back to this deadly energy because it doesn't just affect our minds, but it literally armors the organism. When you see horrible policies being made and wars being waged and all of these

13:38terrible problems, it goes back to what this is doing to the organism and the mind. The body and mind work together. The deadly radiation armors the organism and that armoring completely cuts cuts you off from your life force energy and it causes all the hate and fear and anger in this world because when you're not in touch with your life force energy and you're unhealthy and you're all blocked up, that's what causes cancer. He found that. That was a huge discovery of his as the relationship between energy and cancer and disease in general. We want to have a free flowing organ. We don't want to be blocked up. It's this blockage that causes all of these problems and all this anger and hatred between people. When in fact, we're all life force beings. We're all in the same boat. We're all to be working together here. We need to neutralize deadly radiation and increase life force so that we can all be healthy mentally and physically. The word armor canotes protection,

14:40but in this case, it's the opposite. It's cutting us off. It cuts us off from the world and there could be holes in that armor that people get through. I mean, you can see this in relationships and families abuse the kind of things that happen, traumas. Armoring is at the root of it. The DORs at the root of it and people too can generate life force energy and they can also generate deadly radiation through their intentions, through how they interact, through their words they use towards others. Just think about how much parent influence is a child just through words and just through how they care for them. Once somebody becomes very heavily DORized or abused, then they pass it on. We want to stop that. We want for people to be able to get back in touch with their true energy so that they can be healthy and have healthy relationships. It's a two-fold path or approach. One is we have to recognize

15:41our relationship to our access to organ energy, this vital life force, and how that impacts us and impacts us as a collective and then also understand and recognize the dangerous radiation that is attacking us and seems to be growing every day, essentially. That frequency fence or the sources of that deadly radiation just everywhere we turn, there's more and more and more of it. Is that am I getting that right? Yes, absolutely. The frequency fence is something that I've talked about for many years because I've been doing this for 12 years and when we first started doing it, I didn't really understand the energetic dynamics. I just wanted to be able to clear air pollution. I knew about chemtrails and I only knew what was in the media on that. I knew the mainstream said they didn't exist. They were just contrails and I knew that the alternative media said that the government is spraying us with chemicals and there were so many different things

16:44that people were saying, but all these opposing views weren't getting me to a solution. I was so desperate for a solution to it that I found organized and it was just like a last-ditch effort to do something since you can't contact a senator or a congressman or any of these things to get this to stop. Nothing was going to stop it. I literally just started looking into how to stop chemtrails and I found that we can energetically remove pollution from the atmosphere. I learned this through an electrical engineer named Ken Rolla before I even knew about Wilhelm Reich's work and that's how I got started was I wanted to remove air pollution. So going from there, that's how I discovered all this other stuff and I would say about like in 2015 to 2016 is when I was really discovering what it does to people and I learned that through seeing what the radiation was doing to people in terms of their interactions with others and how removing it improved those interactions so much and I started to become aware of the mind control

17:47aspects of DOR and how it can be used to make people have all negative emotions like hatred and anger and fear and these things. When you say remove pollution, what do you exactly mean by that? Does it just push it somewhere else or does it literally transmute it into another substance? That's it's a great question and I use the word transmutation a lot in terms of energy with the pollution itself as Ken Rolla explained it and this is what got me started. The organ energy, which he called scalar waves or a scalar wave vortex, creates a spiraling wave that moves from the earth to the atmosphere and it throws pollution up and away from the earth and this in fact did happen over and over and over again and we've recorded it but it's visual we record it visually we see the clouds of pollutants spiral we see a spiral shape form and it moves upward we also see

18:50cloud formation in an upward fashion you can watch it I photograph it every day I've photographed this for 12 years over and over again it moves up and away and you will also see that smoggy layer in the lower atmosphere that brown will start to first turn gray then white and then it lifts so that's the way that we see it but it's pattern recognition and where does it go? It says that it goes up into space away from the earth so no because a lot of people are worried it's going to fall to earth right well that's the obvious conclusion it's it's a way for me but it's going to fall on someone else but the the idea is that it's it's going to another realm yeah well we don't even know what's up there so right we think we do you know we we oh it's a blue sky there's planes up there there's clouds we don't know what's beyond the clouds so yeah this is what we know yeah and you guys are very scientific so I know that you know it's it's important for you

19:50and your listeners to know the science behind these things and and I'll let you know what I know and the discoveries are still continuing in fact I've got a 10 year project coming up so I have a long road ahead of me yeah talk about that if you want our next project no it sounds like you're a fountain of knowledge on this subject so we're excited the um I'm familiar with Oregon in terms of like creating a coherent field where there is not one present that concept can this energy be used in the other sense of like creating energy that society could run on is that part of the Oregon conversation that is an interesting one and they're they're I don't know much about generating electricity right this is something that one of Wilhelm Reich's students was studying how do you use Oregon to run a motor well this student was you know he he was one of the people that was disappeared because of this you know discovery but yeah so we haven't really gone too far into

20:51that because Wilhelm Reich only was discovering these things starting in the 1930 so we're looking at less than a hundred or about a hundred years he first came upon it in the in the 1920s so this is a hundred years of study so far and by the 1950s one of the students was studying an electric motor that could be run on Oregon but it never went farther than that and I don't know if you guys know this but Wilhelm Reich was imprisoned right in 1957 for this work and he died right before he was to be released what would the so I mean died in prison so yeah do we know one of the airs we know what do you want you know you can make your own conclusion but they didn't obviously want this getting out yeah it's it's funny how people become disappeared like that when they're sitting on some body of knowledge that could subvert the mainstream narrative yeah see this is very empowering stuff because this energy is really essential to our survival yeah I mean we can keep living we can

21:52keep living short lives and you know I don't really think the human lifespan is getting longer right now it's just there's so many pathogens and diseases and you know I know that because in terrain theory we're not talking about things invading the body rather that there are a lot of toxins in this environment that cause the body to not function properly and I do understand that because I actually don't I don't subscribe to the idea that diseases are spread person to person so I do understand the concept of terrain theory and yeah I mean this this world is so full of artificial energies chemicals and toxins that just cause the body to malfunction so it's essential right now that people understand the life force energy to strengthen themselves against this stuff I think what makes this conversation so challenging particularly the the concept of around dangerous radiation or the dangerous organ radiation is that these are all invisible I mean Arthur Frist and Bear called it the invisible rainbow we can't see these fields emanating from the power

22:59lines are smart meter our Wi-Fi router the cell phone towers and I was thinking about this on on a walk yesterday in preparation of this conversation that if we could somehow just rewire our brains to be able to like imagine see this radiation see the see the power lines and imagine the radiation coming off of it I think we might have a better chance at collectively recognizing the danger one just but you say pattern recognition like recognizing this is everywhere like I can't drive down the road without seeing another cell phone tower there's so many of these 5G I don't even know what they are anymore G towers in New Hampshire and I see it so pattern recognition it's there but I don't I don't necessarily like look at my router and think about like there waves emanating off this thing 24 seven I'm not thinking about all the smart meters in the homes all around in a neighborhood I think the first step is to get people to go this this this this

24:03all these things that you're surrounded by and that continue to grow in number in our society these are all part of the deadly radiation like can you start to enumerate these things oh yeah and that's you know it's important for people to kind of use logic and reason to see that you know if you're getting a signal to your device it's coming from somewhere and it's if it goes through the wall of your house it's going through you too I mean so it's it's just logic and reason right that it's that these frequencies are everywhere and regarding the cell phone towers yet they are everywhere they're they're I guess 5G but the towers you see the big masks that you see throughout the land those are really what we're targeting in terms of weather control because like like the DOR um takes our health down it also is damaging the health of the atmosphere and and so that's why we neutralize those towers in order to allow the atmosphere's natural processes to work but yeah people

25:05do need to just understand logically if a signal is coming to your cell phone it's coming from somewhere you know and it's going through stuff so it's it's there um and it's not really a matter of faith it's it's a matter of you know just simply how things work um as far as the negative effects of it you know there are a lot of ways that we can that we can deal with that and I'll I'll be giving I'll be giving everybody you know a lot of solutions to that because that's what our work is all about but yeah I guess the first thing for people to do is just just think logically if it's coming from some work's going through your body does it go through your body in an innocuous way um how do you feel do you get headaches a lot can you sleep I mean these are the things that people need to start to observe and um many people just take not being able to sleep and having headaches or feeling you know what they call brain fog and just low energy all the time they take that as a given but it doesn't have to be that way how is it then how is it that we can put organized devices in our home all around our home but still get that cell phone service so they

26:09don't uh they don't block anything the organite creates a counterfield so you have the the deadly radiation of the cell phone and that's unfortunate you know that they have to do that because I know that there was a way to make these communications non deadly right the frequency they're working on is deadly to us it causes cancer it causes all kinds of health problems and mental problems so we use organite to neutralize it but that doesn't mean it's not there so yeah you'll still get your service but the that chaotic wave is smoothed out and it passes through your body in the less harmful and disruptive way but that's because there's a counterfield of life force energy that's like that opposes it and so it's like when you're doing a recording if you have two sounds that cancel each other out kind of because you know I know you you play music and I I used to play music and record music it's pretty easy to cancel out one frequency with another you know when you're recording you want to hear them both in this case we want to cancel out that DOR so yeah it's two frequencies

27:12that oppose each other and that's at the heart of this energetic war on earth so you're flipping the phase on one of the frequencies yeah we would say in the recording studio that's really cool because we call it flipping the energy yeah um I had it and then I just lost it the um oh well you said that the scalar energy your organ energy can't be measured but the the deadly radiation can be measured right you can measure how much is coming off your router your your Wi-Fi router so your modem will you yes I imagine you would see a difference in measuring before and after organ was introduced in that reading yes no that's the part the bottle of people you're still reading but you just have to yeah that's wild so so what happens is and then this is uh I've actually measured all of this stuff in my house because with the help of a building biologist Sheila Ravel who actually um I don't do a podcast anymore but years ago my husband and I

28:18interviewed her is she's been a supporter of our organic gifting for a long time and she gifted organic too um she became a building biologist and sent us the kit of meters and did an assessment on our house remotely yeah and we measured everything that she had us measure electrical fields you know from the wiring in the walls the you know the meat smart meter what's coming from the neighbor's house into our house and we measured everything and I found some interesting things I found that the smart meter wasn't nearly as bad as everyone says I found that my neighbor's house was an absolute nightmare and so what we did was we used the different meters for different types of measurements and the one that I was most concerned with was RF and so we used the acoustic hum two meter to measure that and it doesn't matter how much organite you have you're still going to get the same reading because the DOR the EMF from these devices but DOR is just a catch all term for deadly radiation EMF is the one we're mostly tackling here and yeah it doesn't matter how

29:18much organite you have the signal is still there what the organite is good for is making it pass through you in a gentle or way and you will feel a difference especially with sleep like wherever I go I take a pyramid like a large pyramid like this when I go to anyone's house to sleep or if I'm sleeping in a hotel it's not 100% but it helps and it's not 100% because the DOR is still there so yeah you got that energetic door going on you're still going to get the same ratings this is why I recommend people in their own homes do not use Wi-Fi and do not use cell phones or at least minimize it as much as possible you can turn off your Wi-Fi when you sleep you don't need a cell phone in your house if you have a landline phone I don't use one I have one I use it if I have to when I'm out in the world my cell phone bill is three dollars a month to give you a perspective on how little I use it so yeah but yeah that's the question I get a lot and it really it upsets people because they expect to see that that meter say zero but it doesn't work that way got it one of the one of the

30:26things that we return to on the on this podcast again and again is the limitations of what we'll call like a purely mechanic mechanistic model of life atomizing life trying to understand the organism the life biology just by like reducing it to chemistry molecules individual parts and what I what I've learned in my little research into Wilhelm Reich is that he was pushing about he was pushing back against that worldview like a century ago well what I want to know from you just because you obviously you study him is what what did he understand about living systems that modern science still doesn't get so he used a model he called functionalism science to this day is mechanistic as you as you said that everything has to be measured in a controlled laboratory setting but there are obviously things that can't be seen that way and understood that way and on the other hand the he didn't like a mystical view and I don't either so he was opposed to a strictly

31:29mechanistic view of things but he was also opposed to a strictly mystical view like you know what religions do they make everything sound a little bit you know nebulous and confusing you just have to take it on faith you know this is the kind of stuff that is the new age movement does it's a very mystical view and this is why I wanted to I'm really glad you asked about the organized right away what it does because it's it's mystified in in anywhere you go online you're mostly going to find you know woo woo new age stuff on it he said that these views are not a complete view but somewhere in the middle you'll find functionalism which can take into account things that science can't measure but at the same time as a scientific look at these things we're trying to be a scientific as possible with something that can't be measured in a lab we try to use the scientific method as as best as we can and that's that's what the functional model is is to to unify it unifies science and spirituality do you see others in in current times who are embracing functionalism i think it's becoming more

32:32and more popular all the time i mean the current view of health has changed a lot especially since what happened in 2020 um you know we we now know that the established health care is not really for our benefit so people are starting to think well you know if you can't just take a chemical to kill whatever it is that's bothering you you know like maybe you got a health problem and the doctor says take this pill little kill that thing or you know just like numb the symptoms you know we're starting to learn that there is something beyond that and that the overall health of the organism is more important i do think it's being challenged all the time now um you guys could see that too i mean they i don't want to say too much because i don't want to get banned from the internet you know by saying too much about these aspects of it but yeah um i think it's being embraced more functionalism as being embraced more and more through what they call you know alternative medicine yeah and Sharon you can say whatever you want it's it will will be there will be the ones that are banned not not you well i'm worried about you guys you know i know i i don't want the video getting pulled

33:37yeah yeah we just we just had that because of uh yeah free birth apparently that's the topic of birth was a violation of youtube's community guidelines i can only imagine the giving of life yes exactly i can only imagine what they do with orgone it is it is no good um let's let's talk a little bit more about the frequency fence because Mitch Mitch the organ donor i know you're familiar with um has brought that up on his multiple appearances here how do you define the frequency fence and why should be be concerned about it and what can we do about it well the the frequency fence is a mind control system over all of humanity and over the planet um when when i talk about the frequency fence i'm talking about not just what is happening to the weather but the human mind is in a cage um the d.o.r. or the e on that let's just talk strictly about what's coming out of cell phones and wireless routers especially cell phones it is in fact a mind control signal it just it

34:42suppresses the brain's abilities and and therefore the mind to perceive it numbs the senses in particular it numbs your sense of taste smell um sound everything and it also numbs the senses that we're not yet aware of and prevents us from becoming aware of those the thing they call the sixth sense being able to sense the energy that you're talking about you know i just i'm going back to that real quick i just remembered another thing i about it when you're talking about the invisible energies bombarding us from things you know and people becoming aware of it getting organized or making organized is the first step towards becoming aware of it i wasn't aware of any of it and in fact i started making organized and i still wasn't aware of any of it i was still using a cell phone i was still using wireless internet i didn't know what people's problem with cell phones when they would say oh it's the e-mf by using the organite and being exposed to an increased life force energy all the time my senses improved and i was then able to perceive the harm the e-mf

35:49was doing to me so the frequency fence really is a mind control signal it prevents us from sensing properly and therefore from thinking straight it literally is affecting the brain's function and it also is a signal of trauma so in trauma patients there are parts of the brain that are deactivated in the frontal lobe and if you're being constantly i just i'm reading a book by vessel vandrecolk who is a doctor who studied trauma he studies trauma and talking about the brain changes with it if you're constantly and bombarded with a frequency of fear and and just all the lowest emotions that is going to cause a lot of trauma in the brain and once your frontal lobes are not working right you can no longer make rational decisions you cannot control yourself like if an argument comes up you're gonna fly off the handle even if something not a big deal comes up you might fly off the handle so yeah we're talking about something that is just

36:49disrupting the brain's function and it just it needs to stop people need to become aware of this and at least start neutralizing it and reducing exposure then they'll be aware of what's been happening and only then do you feel like this is intentional oh absolutely i mean it's unnecessary so why would why would we be bombarded with frequencies that are unnatural to us that cause us to be sick and and you know brain dead this is part of the control system and this is why will home rice was attacked so much and this is why we're attacked i mean i'm attacked all the time for this work because it's freeing the minds and the only way that the human race can be controlled to the degree it is is through mind control because they cannot use military might to control everyone on earth there's just too many people i absolutely think this is on purpose but fighting back is very liberating and anyone can do it yeah when when i think of mind control i

37:51think of a phrase that might actually trotts out sometimes is putting a thought in someone's mind but it seems to me that the mind control your definition is more just suppression suppression right it's again that both it's a little bit you think it's a little both yeah because you have a combination with a smartphone you have a combination of suppression of of the senses and the function of the mind as well as bombardment with media right so once your mind is in a susceptible state it's very easy for thoughts to be implanted into it yeah and that's i mean they've been doing this forever i mean you know mind control through tv and through you know society schools religions whatever they want to use to control people's minds you know but with electromagnetic interference it's so much easier and it's automated you know they can they can control huge huge populations of people without having to target individuals or corral you into a religion or a cult to to you know

38:54give you those thoughts and aren't your own they can just do it now automatically through people's phones and they carry them everywhere and they don't think about it and so people might say oh I have my own thoughts well how do you know that i mean what's telling you that and when i tell people who are very addicted to cell phones because they are addictive the energy is addictive the thing itself the media is but the energy especially though they'll always come up with an excuse i mean most people will say oh it's not me i can i can handle it like well what's telling you that what makes you think you can handle that yeah in your world who is the they oh the they is those controlling this world um those controlling humanity for their benefit uh not for ours siphoning off of our labor our life force everything we produce they can't produce for themselves in a very you know in a very mechanistic sense in a very kind of mainstream easy to see sense they're obviously siphoning off of us financially you know that we're in a system where we work and work and work

39:59and can never never get ahead um our labor is is the only thing that is our own yet it is taxed and you know you just can't get ahead financially and then there's people like you know all this insider trading going on right now uh Donald Trump just you know saying some stupid thing on truth social and then you know all the whole world you know putting in their their trades in the stock market causing things to crash and like go down you know 20% a day and up you it's all this crazy stuff so obviously they're siphoning off of people's wealth and labor so that's one thing and then and we're the human resource they need because they're the controllers of those world are few and the rest of us are many and they can't they can't create what they need for themselves they need to use us for that so just in a very you know materialistic kind of way that's happening on a higher level they've got us just submitting to total mind control in order to keep doing what they need us to do but they're also siphoning off our life force energy their will home rice said they're sucking the

41:04life force energy out of us and they're using it somehow and this goes into kind of a deeper aspect of this kind of that matrix stuff like you see in the in the movie The Matrix where everyone's plugged in and they're being used as a battery their energy is being drained that's basically what they're doing to us you use the matrix as an example and plenty of plenty of people do that in the matrix of course we were all we're all living in a in a system in a computer program and the people who are in charge are actually just the robots they're they're AI right it's it's that's exactly the world we live in now that movie is a documentary okay but that's a very well-defined day in the matrix yeah you do you feel that that is what is behind all this like who is in control is actually just like a technology run a muck or are there humans or is there something else well the technology is running everything so things are run through artificial intelligence but the reason for that is the controllers behind the artificial intelligence are few in number

42:08and very weak this is a big trick and I think the best source for information on this is a book called the crypto terrestrials by Mac Tonys now I hope I don't lose everybody on this because I'm now talking about non-humans no let's go but I will also put this out there for the record in well-homed rysh's work in his cloud-busting experiments in the desert where he was he was lifting pollution and bringing rain with the very technology we're using today that he discovered he found an off-world source of the deadly radiation that the ultimate source of these frequencies that are not good for us that are hurting this world and hurting us are not native to this planet but were imported from somewhere else the us air force did not want to hear about any of this that or they already knew it perhaps but when he brought it up with the air force that he was discovering this off-world source which he discovered through his experiments and observing crafts at night in the sky and their reaction to the cloudbuster so he went into this thinking this

43:10is just a weather experiment ultimately he saw things that he thought were stars that would just be in the sky and then suddenly they would retreat in the face of the organ so he this is how he observed it all the psychic stuff that he was feeling none of that can be proven of course that he was attacked by them as I have been attacked by them but that's not provable stuff so let's just stick with what he found which is that crafts in the sky retreated that he thought were stars started moving and retreating when he used the cloudbuster when he reported this to the air force they did not respond at all to it and so they already knew but this is a big cover-up of something from off-world coming in so yeah these frequencies are not native to this world and this book the crypto terrestrials by mack tenies talks about a race of beings that are currently on this planet and use artificial intelligence to control humanity because they cannot maintain control without it this book was written in 2008 and published in 2009 mack tenies

44:15died right before the book was published it was published posthumously and you know he was only 33 years old at the time so somebody did not want this getting out there it got out there anyway he was actually going to be interviewed I think on coast to coast this was about to become huge huge news and yeah that's the best source of information on it my my information is just what what do I see going on in the atmosphere just like well home rice what can I prove and like rice saw things retreating we see similar patterns in what they call the chemtrails and the so-called planes that are leaving them up there and the patterns are very very similar in that they cut out planes even disappear all kinds of stuff like that happens so we are seeing something that is pretty much impossible for mainstream science to accept or understand but it is something happening beyond science's ability to measure coming from a source outside of here I'm fascinated by

45:20the sentence he thought they were stars because when we look at of course in this day and age you can see satellites or whatever they are kind of moving out a faster clip in its far enough way that it kind of you thought it was a star for a second but really we look at the heavens as like God's kingdom it's the stars it's the sky but these entities or parasitical energies are basically like pretending to be stars hiding it are like kind of hiding in plain sight is that the idea I don't know about that because when I look up there and I see the stars they mostly just are there and they're the same every night the constellations and we really don't know much about outer space but what he was seeing was just lights in the sky that that he just happened to be observing because he was observing the sky and the lights were just there like stars but when he was using the cloudbuster he would see what was just staying still up there just a little pinpoint of light up their retreat yeah so I've seen it too I mean I observe the sky daily and nightly and

46:26there are a lot of things up there that I can't explain I regularly see a star and it will blink and change colors and just keep blinking and then it'll just like it's in one place and then it moves and goes away so I'm like well it's obviously not a star these are the kind of things he was seeing craft so he couldn't explain and this was in the 1950s so it wasn't like it is today with so many things flying around up there I mean they hadn't even you know been to the moon yet so right right right it makes you realize though how important it is to have to study the stars right because as we're told ancient cultures were much more dialed in and it takes me down the rabbit hole of what flies under the umbrella of kind of the old world architecture the tartarian structures and that there essentially you could look at it through the lens that they are massive organ devices built on sacred geometry we don't actually necessarily know what they're made of

47:26maybe but like perhaps they're just sending a big organ beam up into the sky to neutralize energy and scatter the false stars anything is possible they could also be energy generators to benefit life on earth who knows but the pyramid shape you know that that's a shape that generates organ naturally that's I would think that the pyramids in Egypt were probably more likely energy devices than tombs yeah although again we don't really know that much about ancient history it's mostly blotted off the records yeah there's a really good book it's also from the 50s it's called flying saucers have landed it's a really fascinating book that about about ancient cultures observing phenomena in the sky and ancient energy weapons and things like this but things that are recorded in history so that's that's by Georgia Dam ski and Desmond Leslie and that is a really interesting look at the the ancient aliens you know with that stuff that that they talk about a lot now

48:29but back in the 50s so a lot of energy devices energy weapons there were all kinds of things like this recorded throughout history and lots of UFO sightings too from you know thousands of years ago so how do you explain all this you know I don't know it's just it's out there it's there for our information and to I guess to over time just accumulate more and more knowledge until we start to get closer to an understanding yeah does I don't know if in our lifetimes we'll have that right well the the journey is it's what's fun right the does the pyramid in and of itself create Oregon energy or does it need to have a crystal embedded in it for it to to have that function well you know the organic we make is a specific energy device based on the elements in it so you know we have a you know we make pyramid shapes which are great amplifiers of Oregon but we also make the same elements and yeah and we also put the same elements you guys have some organic coal and yeah there's lots of metal shaving there and that's what you need but it doesn't need to

49:31be a pyramid shape you know this generates it too the pyramid is conducive to it in nature a mountain is a natural Oregon generator it's full of crystals and metallic elements and so you know the the metals and crystals are what is generating Oregon and the earth is full of those so as far as the pyramids in Egypt I'm not sure how that was done and I'm not sure what was even in there you know oh in the past because these things can't could have been gutted I also think they were covered in in metals I'm not sure but if they were covered in metals that would stand to reason that it was an energy device because the metals themselves contain the Oregon energy and the pyramid shape amplifies it but this is all just you know me just speculating on things that you know I haven't studied I mean what I've studied is what happens to the weather and that has been recorded and I think I have so much evidence that constitutes proof but that would be for my readers to to decide I mean I've written a book I've recorded everything we've done from 2014 to the present and the book

50:34covers five years of fieldwork and results as well as an overview of what this is all about and I continue to record on the blog every project we do so my proof is in the atmosphere all this other stuff is very interesting to talk about and I am pretty sure that Oregon and DOR have always been at the root of all of these things that we're seeing whether it's UFOs or pyramids or anything can we spend a second talking about the weather more so yeah what for lack of a better generally like what constitutes quote unquote normal weather like what would be what would be normal because I think in this day and age we have no idea right that's true we don't know will him write said normal weather would be a jet stream that travels around the world west to east without these you know peaks and troughs and all this craziness just a natural flowing jet stream as well as

51:34you know no deserts deserts are not natural he said the deserts were artificially created that natural weather would mean that everyone is getting you know an appropriate amount of rain for plant growth and temperatures that are not excessive and extreme weather would not be a factor there wouldn't be you know hurricanes and tornadoes it would be beneficial rain and sun a natural jet stream that flows around the world without interference we've never seen that but that's what he said it's supposed to be like so we find with the work we do with Oregon energy with neutralizing cell towers the cell towers put out a field of deadly radiation it's positively ionizing it inhibits cloud formation by inhibiting the hydrogen bonding of water molecules in the atmosphere it also inhibits the earth's natural removal of pollution which it energetically is always doing so the earth wants to cleanse itself just like our bodies want to cleanse themselves and it wants to create beneficial rain and the cell towers prevent that but when we neutralize

52:37them with org night especially on a large scale like we've done in cities throughout the US west and throughout everything between we find repeatedly that that brown smoggy stuff at the horizon lifts we find that the trails throughout the sky break up puff up and disappear and we also find that haze comes together to form puffy white clouds which almost always like evaporate by the end of the day it's you know consistently we find the same effects and when those clouds evaporate the sky is left blue because the clouds generated through this process of cleanup are not actually rain clouds they are they are what we call orgone clouds or OR clouds and interestingly interestingly well hum rice also saw the same result but he didn't get to do the work long enough to know why those clouds didn't bring rain and he expressed frustration in his writing in his later writing

53:37that these clouds would form when he is the orgone energy but then just evaporate consistently that's what they do every time from southern California all the way up to Seattle Washington we've seen the same things inland all the way into Utah Colorado you know New Mexico Arizona we've done nine U.S. states and consistently it's the same thing so if you were able to continue his work you would have found that after those clouds evaporate the sky is then in its natural state at least for now and then the rain clouds come in within a day to a few days usually air pollution is something that can be measured PM 2.5 particulates of heavy metals is there is there measuring that's happening around air pollution and the effects of the orgone on on that well the air pollution that chemicals are supposedly putting in the atmosphere is heavy metals but there's no these are they

54:40call them nanoparticles they're not you know they're not measurable by any instruments we have there's a lot of speculation as to what is up there I'm mostly talking in terms of just viewing smog but you're right I mean heavy metals I don't think they can be measured because the instruments can't measure nanoparticles but they can measure what they call ozone pollution and these kind of things and we also have seen a lot of weather reports about ozone pollution especially in Arizona like I we gifted Phoenix in 2021 and we gridded the entire city with these tower busters and since then I of course I've been observing Phoenix weather and often right before a big rainstorm they will put a warning for ozone pollution in the report so they may be measuring some particulates that are that are being you know cleansed from the atmosphere through the orgone energy because that's a type of smog and it's a it's kind of a whitish gray look to it

55:42and that's a later stage what I call transportation changing of energy where orgone takes over in DOR is neutralized a later stage of that is that smog or what they sometimes call ozone pollution so yeah I know they're able to measure to some degree that type of pollution but at the same time I take their measurements with a grain of salt because pollution is constantly being lifted so if you see it turned from brown to gray to white and lift I don't know how it can be measured while it's in that process of being removed I do take all of that mechanistic stuff with a grain of salt when it comes to weather and I really just observe it from what I can understand which is the visual effects and the only really mechanistic part I use is the measurement of precipitation and you know wind speeds and stuff like that temperature obviously which is also dubious I have to say temperature also has a lot of problems being measured that they claim to be able to do it but I think they're measuring something else but that gets into another discussion I don't really trust their measurements is

56:44what this comes down to yeah no you're not the first person I've heard recently question the very concept of temperature and thermometers and being told that it's a you know 127 degrees in Phoenix but some things not quite adding up yeah you know I have to use my husband as a gauge on that because he's from the valley I don't know if you guys are familiar with the LA area but the valley is a hot and smoggy place um not so smoggy anymore it used to be but uh it's still it's still warm it's not as hot as it used to be either because Oregon energy has the effect of cooling as well but he'll tell me when they say it's 95 degrees you'll say I'm a valley boy it's 85 or whatever they'll say you know I know what 95 feels like so again this is it's a subjective thing temperature is they do feels like right you know feels like temperatures so what does that mean another problem is they're not accurately measuring humidity we have been having increased humidity in the last few years due to our desert giftings all over the southwest and and even you know into Utah and Colorado these have

57:48made a huge difference humidity is increased humidity makes it feel hotter I've noticed they're under reporting humidity lately when it's obviously humid because there's clouds forming in the sky I disappeared over reporting temperatures so you know it's it's very subjective this is why I go with what I can observe and measure the the gifting that you're doing of organized organized devices around the country and in various cities sounds like it's quite the movement that you've got maybe some some boots on the ground helping you out do you ever excuse me do you ever experience or have these folks that are working with you or for you ever experience like pushback the organized devices getting getting removed that hasn't been a problem it's a theoric pushback and so this is why I I have a page on my website the cambo.com which explains how to gift and engage instructions a lot of the pushback is actually a theoric it's mental stuff if you're

58:53carrying your cell phone when you're gifting it's going to try to stop you because this energy itself and the phone itself is programmed to suppress our life force energy and amplify our the deadly radiation so the biggest pushback I find is people being controlled in a way that they're afraid to gift you know that's that's one thing that happens as far as organizing being removed this is very hard for for anyone to do we've you know we've been observing the places we've gifted and their weather and based on the weather it seems that the organized has stayed where it needs to be I mean you know we we hide them very well they're very hard to see out there we tend to throw them out of the window of a car into bushes no that's that's the main way and don't prof to was the early a pioneer of organized gifting said it's the best way to do it is out the window of a car it's very discrete as long as you know you make sure that you know the copo aren't you know following you and see you do that but that's generally how we've done it and in the city

59:56the most discrete way of doing it is to have two people and you drive into a parking lot at a grocery store where there's a cell phone tower pull into a space next to a bush and just put it deep into the bush very subtly people don't really notice everyone's too much you know like in the you know cell phone world so as far as removal that hasn't been an issue the biggest pushback is people just getting scared out of doing it and this is why I say you got to turn off your phone it's transmitting fear to you and of course the the transmitters of DOR don't want you putting organ energy devices in the environment yeah that's that is fascinating let's come back to you human health and and our own terrain you mentioned that Wilhelm right was acknowledge or suspected that the dangerous radiation the dangerous organ radiation could be one of the causes or maybe even the cause of cancer or other chronic illnesses or diseases experienced by humans have you or anyone in this space done extensive testing on human health e.g. using organite to help the

1:01:06the body heal find coherence and come back from chronic illnesses or cancers or the like it's not legal for doctors to use it so you're not going to find this in any conventional health care and even alternative meaning doctors you'll hear them skirt around it they won't use the the word organ energy so it's not really it's not allowed I mean you know people's licenses could be jeopardized by by actually using it in in healthcare so it hasn't really been explored like it should be I can point to just I mean there's really not much research definitive research on the human body on it so it's all subjective things that I can say or testimonials for people I know but there is a video on our website my husband Gabe and I were on a vice-land tv show called Mr. Tachion and in this show they did some very cool experiments I was really surprised at how balanced it was what they did with people in the show was they used Wilhelm Reich organ accumulator

1:02:09and they recorded the brain waves of the people and they would also give a testimonial of what happened in there and they had a control subject of a fake organ accumulator that didn't really generate the organ into you know so you sit in this box essentially and organ energy is brought in from the atmosphere it's collected from the atmosphere into the box and the people that were in the real organ accumulator actually had good results they felt relaxed the people in the control organ accumulator the control subjects felt anxious because they were in a closed-in space they started to feel claustrophobic so this was a pretty good experiment and I recommend if people come to my website the chemo.com and go to our learning center and watch that episode of Mr. Tachion because those are really cool experiments that involve people and you could see the difference there's other experiments in there also an ice crystal test with one of our pyramids in fact one just like the pyramid I showed this they use this very type of citrine pyramid to do the ice test

1:03:14and it showed interesting results as well I really recommend that video. When you say ice test can you elaborate? Yeah it causes the water to spiral and often in our own fridge it causes it to spike up although there could you know I'm not going to say definitively that that's caused by organ because there could be other factors that but the spiraling shape is what you're going to really notice because organ energy is a spiraling wave. So you know everybody really wants to see definitive results those are the closest things I can think of because like I said it's not really allowed it's not in university curriculum mainstream sciences literally not allowed to use it. Yeah that's what Will Homage Wanted Jail for. Got it. It sounds like there's an opportunity here for someone out there to start to better explore and document the potential effects of organite on the human body I mean there certainly there are measurables around human health that most would accept even in the

1:04:16alternative health space it would certainly be interesting to to just start to recognize or a pattern any of those changes across multiple you know multiple subjects as it were. I know that folks have been doing good work with like electroculture which is I think there's an overlap here right between electroculture in in gardening plant growth and I suppose we could we could ask the same of folks out there to be better studying organite specifically and organ energy and its impact on plant life I don't think that's going to cross any sort of like ethical boundaries. Oh yeah it does actually cause like massive plant growth I mean and Will Homage studied its effects on plants as well. We use organite in our garden and we've used them all over the woods we've lived up in these mountains we're north of LA in southern Kern County in the mountains and we moved here 10 years ago and it was actually kind of like it seemed like it was not in good shape

1:05:18you know that atmosphere and the land was kind of dry looked a little desertified and we immediately got to work putting organite all over the environment and in the 10 years we've been here we've seen an explosion in tree growth I mean you can't even count the number of baby trees in the first house we lived here for over four years a group of trees just came to life in the back of the yard I mean like a little forest that wasn't there when we moved in and four years later the tallest of the trees was already 12 feet tall so we do find I mean of course again you can't do the same experiment go back in time and try it without the organite so that's hard to to gauge that but yeah we've seen massive plant growth in in our own garden we're doing some farming as well we're becoming farmers and learning how to grow food and we've seen just great results with organite so I think it is a similar concept to what you're talking about with electroculture yeah I have organite in my garden in all four corners and one of these little like muffin-sized guys that I

1:06:22got from Mitch and I have electroculture just and it's fun I was listening to a podcast recently where they were kind of poo-pooing the whole wrap some copper on a stick and put it in the ground like just Instagram level that you need to get into like the real antenna building to see any results but I'll tell you what like my garden I can't keep up with it and there's basically zero pests so like something's going on definitely that's amazing yeah we don't know a lot of pests either I hadn't thought about that aspect of it that's amazing yeah it is amazing and it's definitely real because this has been multiple seasons the same result how much organite do you have to gift in a region to really like make an impact you know because I've been dabbling you know I've put some earth pipes around at least four or five or six towers in the region I'm not so much for like chuck them out the window I kind of like to be a little more deliberate about it I don't know I live in a moral area yeah that's the reason we chuck is because

1:07:27we cover you know hundreds of miles in what we we set up the yeah that's I guess go on three ways and you know I'll throw them out at each tower so I'm kind of going a little I guess more locally like in maybe that's what you should do 15 20 mile range yeah it's great sometimes I wonder like am I making a difference I don't know there's still crazy weather that rolls through here you know yeah you're making a difference the weather isn't going to be cured overnight I mean you know this is the weather is a holistic system over the entire earth so you you know heal a part of it's like the body you can't just heal a part of it you got to heal the whole thing you're doing your part and I encourage I'm so happy to hear you're doing that I encourage everyone to give their local area not everybody has the the strength to get in a car with oh first of all to make you know a few hundred of them and then get in a car for like a week to two weeks and travel over huge distances to cover as many towers as we do but this is you know our life's work and our mission and this is all this is all I want to do it's like I've just been this is my purpose uh I encourage

1:08:29people locally to do exactly what you're doing it's it's perfect the next step for me probably is just to learn how to make the stuff because it is expensive to buy um but I'm a I'm a touring musician so I'm all over the place I could be how can you know window every month yeah I think that'd be great if you if you gifted on your tours and um they're actually not very expensive on our website we have tutorial videos on how to make your own so come to the cambo.com go to the learning center that's where that mr tacky on video is there's a video on how to make power busters how to make pyramids and how to make these earth pipes we just put this one up um these are a nice tool that's a uh it has this is an old uh device that was made by it was originally made by Don Croft and his um followers where there's organized at the top for you know the first third of the pipe with a coarse crystal pointing down into the earth it's surrounded by the the organite matrix all around it's like organite in a pipe and this part of the pipe is hollow and it aims the energy into the earth to heal geopathic stress stress within the earth these are great

1:09:35everyone should put one at their yard and you'll see amazing things on your property with your plants and with atmospheric healing however these power busters are the main tool of the organite gift or every tower needs to be gifted our website has a how to gift the towers section everything's there so you can make these yourselves using our tutorials also we sell them cheap so if you want to support our gifting work you can come to our website check out our shop we sell sets of them at discounts for people who want to gift and for people who want to gift massive amounts or you know more than what you have on the site just contact me uh well if you don't want to make them will offer you a further discount you know because we want this to be gifted everywhere and also put in the coupon code summer 26 or if you're watching this later here there's one on the there will always be one on the site so if you're watching this after that code expires at the end of summer just come to our site and just grab the coupon code at the shop for your first purchase for 10% off we really encourage everyone to gift so anyone who doesn't want to make their own

1:10:36using our tutorials can get them from us and get right to work yeah let's talk let's talk about getting right to work because i'm interested in the perspective of the person who's listening the dubious listener i suppose who's fascinated with this conversation but maybe not ready to just accept it all on faith like what experiment do you encourage them to conduct themselves where can they start what should they be like placing measuring photographing observing the first thing you need to do is just see what it does to you it's subjective and it's just going to be how you feel and you just just get the organize make or buy some organize a piece even and see how you feel but the other thing i recommend is even before buying organize if you you know want to really know if i'm telling you the truth about what e-mf does turn off your cell phone turn off your wifi and see there's a chance if you're very addicted you're going to you know be very upset and want to turn them back on and you're going to think that i'm you know stupid or something like i i feel better with

1:11:40it on you know some people feel better with it on but i say try turning that stuff off and see how you feel especially when you're sleeping turn them off not airplane mode off get an alarm clock don't use your cell phone as an alarm try that experiment it's free you don't even need to organize for it see if you sleep better but next regarding the organize i encourage people to make some or buy some at least a piece and just keep it with them and see how they feel i've heard just amazing results from different people not just me if if you really want to get the full effects i do recommend we sell them as a set of five and they're only nine dollars each if you do them that way for these tower busters that's a really great way to just surround your your whole house with them put them in different rooms and see if it affects you see if you sleep better if you if you want to do a controlled experiment where you first try the organize and leave the devices on see if you sleep better like that that's what i do in a mountain the world and i can't turn them off like in a hotel or if you want to try an experiment where you don't have the organize and just turn them off

1:12:44try that and then try both so that's a way you could start you you mentioned that you travel with yours do you ever have issues with tsa i have taken organize through the airport i don't fly anymore so i haven't flown in nine years and i won't ever do it again but the last time i flew i had organized in my checked bag it went through fine and i was wearing an organized pendant and it was fine other things weren't so fine i won't go through the body scanner so they literally like detained me and searched every inch of everything i was carrying including myself but the organize the tsa lady said oh that's pretty that was it that's because that's because they haven't been trained to identify it as the the enemy of the do our generators yeah well that's fine let them let them continue to think that and when i mail mail them internationally once i want orders from another country we label it as paper weights perfect yeah that's what it does

1:13:45look like it does look like a paper weight and you know what there's another function for it yeah share and we appreciate you coming on and and sharing some of your work i think this is this is one that we could perhaps explore in a part two at a later date i'd love to have one to bring it back to you personally and ask the question that we ask all our guests at the end of every episode share and what are your non-negotiables the daily habits you do to tend to your train no e-mf that's number one i don't use a cell phone i don't use wireless internet we do not expose ourselves to e-mf except what we can't control that comes in and so my number two it'll be an organic to neutralize the mf coming in from outside i also only drink distilled or reverse osmosis water i don't want any chemicals and junk in my water and no glyphosate round up i don't i don't eat that it's in a lot of food so it's important to eat organic food but regarding glyphosate especially wheat and corn products never never never anything but organic

1:14:51love it and where can the listener learn more about you and your work you mentioned your website maybe you could give that one more time yeah my website is the chembo.com and through that website you can also access on the front page i've got links to my substack share and doffna.substack.com i've been keeping a blog on tumblr since 2013 since 2014 it became an orgonite blog and that is the chembo.tumblr.com and we also are you could just go straight to our website we're on youtube we didn't post there for a few years because we kept getting videos pulled but we're back and we've got a bit shooting and Odyssey and rumble all of those so probably the easiest way to get to those is just through the chembo.com and just click the link. Love it links in the show notes. Sharon Doffna thank you for coming on the train 3 podcast. Thank you guys so much it was really great talking with you. I love the questions you really you know asked all the right stuff and i think it's a great intro to our work with

1:15:53orgonite. welcome everyone to the after party with your host Mike Miranda and Benjamin Hardy they shoot the shit and they talk about your body how to live in a natural world and be healthy in the pineal room your mind can be free the after party is the place to be. brother mike welcome to the after party in the pineal room. yeah welcome yourself Benjamin how's your orgon quotient over there. it's good it's good i'm not as you know i'm not as dialed as you are you've been doing the gifting in the driving of orgon devices in and around your community for some time i'm woefully behind you have some though yeah good some yeah definitely scatter around the house yeah um it i know i've slipped i've absolutely slipped in slipped in terms of just best practices

1:16:57around shutting off the wifi yeah yeah yeah it happens it does it does happen it shouldn't happen not to the co-host of the train theory podcast but yeah yeah these are helpful reminders to you know make sure that's enough often totally yeah especially especially at nighttime. i've got a teenager in the house who likes to stay up till you know two a.m. three a.m. so it's like when i would shut it off at 10 p.m. and he gets bitchy yeah yeah i guess right you know rightfully so so what do you end up doing just not turning it off yeah exactly i'm kind of in that boat too there's it's funny the the scant times where i am home alone for a night or two i just turn turn it off and we still have wired internet i mean it's just the wifi yeah modem so anyway but yeah i think i've also adopted a mindset that is more long the lines of i can handle it yes rather than rather than having to live in fear and constantly like turning this off switching that off um i'm trying to adopt a mindset of like i'm not i'm not gonna overthink it i'm not gonna

1:17:59live in fear of this thing because it's the fear of this thing that's actually causing more of the health you know negative health impacts so yep that's kind of going for for a lot more in my life and it's it's a bit liberating i will say hey man and we'll i guess we'll we'll find out in a year to five years if it catches up with me or if i'm right in my instinct here i'd go with your gut yeah i'm plus i you know at my house we've got we're going all over the damn place i've got pyramids and i've got muffins and every bedroom and one of the refrigerator and foreign the garden earth pipes in the backyard i mean yeah that's got to be smoothing out the rough edges if nothing else yeah yeah um i love it uh it's her her comment around ice and her use of ice um as just like a a research kind of fun one to do it's an easy one fun one and an easy one yeah and it's funny because i was just talking about beta austin yesterday and i gotta be careful i'm not i can't i can't drop any names but i had a conversation with a a brewer and i asked um and i asked what

1:19:05what do you do what do you do with your water how do you how do you treat your water do you treat your water before you use it and he was very tight left you got very tight leapt immediately it's like no i don't i don't share that information that is like and i and i said no no no i'm talking about more you know you are you familiar with the work of like maestro iimoto and data austin and general polych and he had some no she's like yeah you me okay you mean like like like like speaking nicely to the water or writing i love you one of them like exactly that he hadn't heard of beta austin's work though um so i'd turn them on to onto the work of beta austin and his comment was is really interesting his pushback was really interesting he's like i don't discount any of that however i would be worried that if i started doing that that the workers would think i'm crazy and their energy energy field would impact the water in a negative way and i was like wow that's kind of a fair uh a fair assessment you know or a fair concern i would say i guess it depends what you write i mean what if the tom cow and water bottle just says thank you on it yes it's not super

1:20:10polarizing it's not super hippie dippy it's just thank you yeah maybe maybe it's the workers could extrude as they're being thanked for their toil yeah there's yes there's a safe way around it exactly i think so yeah but i it reminded me just in this conversation around our beta and just reflecting on the conversation and how to best like present her her her work to someone who's never heard of it before i felt like the way i did it kind of landed the other side there was like a you're kidding me you know like like immediate jaw drop kind of thing and it made me it made me reflect on the products that i choose to or choose not to conceal in one of them that i'm sure you're familiar with this is company called liquid death dude like i was gonna bring that up okay like all all you know all the kids like it's it's i use that as an example with with with again the teenager in the last couple of years that exact thing he picked it up off the shelf it probably had a gas station on tour and i was like will you know how we write love on our water bottle at home

1:21:11and it clicked he's like you're right okay i get it yeah he put it back well good for him that it clicked good for him even though reluctantly i mean it's his dad telling him something but yeah i i've been i was i was like talking to the kids about that a little bit it was talking to the kids about the power of words like even just spells the they're they're kind of into dnd yep and they were doing this weird thing before they were rolling dice to like i'm gonna bless the dice and you know cast a spell on it i'm like well hold on you know it's pumped the brakes here for a second like we got to be careful that we're not dabbling in things that we don't quite understand but are very real like words have power words are spells like prayers i think are a benevolent way to kind of like tap into this this like life force energy of the creator but spell casting and the words we write and i use liquid death as an example i was like there's a company out there that has it's called liquid death and they write liquid death on their can and that's sitting in you know a wrapped around the water that you're now going to drink do you think that that's a good idea to drink that water like how does that make you feel the thing to drink a product called

1:22:14liquid death and they're like yeah it doesn't really make a lot of sense so trying to get to these youngins early around this connection between like our words our intentions are water and also just spells and the concept of magic like i've become much more attuned to the people who talk about magic or wica or boast about using it and i'm a little more guarded around those people i find i'm putting up a intentional like energetic barrier around those people because i think that there's folks who think that it's just innocuous or maybe not even innocuous but maybe over they're overestimate their abilities or their understanding of these forces and so i've become i've become much more cautious and and so have some others close to me in my life yeah good i mean at the same time i mean not that's that's too acknowledged maybe the the darker side of of this art but just to use words intentionally is just basic mindset work that we've

1:23:20been learning about and and what i've been discovering in this never gottered book is that that's basically the wisdom that's been preserved in the bible that goes back thousands of years just mindset mindset mindset and as domiciel rwee says in his four agreements be impeccable with your word yes i like that it deserves a re-examination within this context of words as as potentially spells or as spells be impeccable with your word it's not just follow through with what you say you're going to follow through with right but understand the multifaceted power that words themselves have yeah and even the ones unspoken you're your your internal dialogue maybe more than anything more than anything yeah i've been much better about that maybe with ruthi diving into that coursework through mark england and and again this book that i've been it's funny i kind of i'm a very slow reader which is fine i mean i'm not in school take my time to my own man but you know

1:24:24i got so many books to get through but i probably read like the first 25 or 30 pages and my jaw was on the floor it was just like like we were having a chat with our pal avi recently it's just like nothing i didn't know already but it's so validating to kind of go over it see it through a new lens but i've been really busy in august as you know it's august is the who and we've had teaching it southern week at a shokin and and some just random shows scattered in and i'm literally been on the same page of this book all month because i like i started when i get into bed and i can't even make it through this page so i've read this page like a dozen times it's been i kind of love it actually i'm just going with it yeah and also there's a reason yeah there's a reason there's a question on that page yeah there's something there maybe yeah extra important um we've we've had some conversations around orgone and orgone i plenty of them actually now at this point on on this podcast what what did you learn that what new piece of information or pieces of information did you

1:25:28take away from this one well i think i'm going to take a little more i was kind of alluding to it but the the whole quote unquote extra terrestrial element of this conversation i've been kind of warming up to it um i think i might start to take it a little bit more seriously and to see again that those words can be so triggering but there is nuance there and it keeps coming up in this conversation so i think i i just need to put a little more time in with some of those resources folks have sent my way that i'm kind of like uh i'm not really an aliens guy or whatever you know anything mm-hmm how about you yeah that that's certainly the crypto terrestrials is uh you know more just greater depth to the to the rabbit hole that i think warrants some examination uh and as i told you know as i told Sharon it's like i'm not ready to discount anything anymore um um you know i'm just not and when you when you start to think about this this frequency fence or the energy wars

1:26:33or energy war that's being waged and you look at all the ways that it appears we are under attack if you think about if you accept the idea of like damaging or dangerous radiation dangerous organ radiation it starts to feel way too orchestrated and it does start to feel very organized and intentional and you think about one the energetic onslaught of this radiation and then the messaging and suggestion that is done through media uh through influencers through artists that are propped up through hollywood stars through the news um it you do start to look at it and go this doesn't feel like coincidental this doesn't just feel haphazard or or sort of chaos chaos right disaster capitalism or opportunistic it's like this yeah right it does and um and that's

1:27:33you know that's a tough that's like a black pill kind of thing and we don't like to focus on on the negatives i think what i i enjoy about the conversations with folks like uh Sharon is that there's always an empowering empowerment side and the agency side we have organized it's there or going energy is there for us to tap into and it's on us to to rediscover or discover that connection um that it's existence it's impact on us on our health and on the collective and like this is our this is it this is this is our ammunition this is our well the weapon this if you want to call it a weapon or defense against tools as on each frequency every every tool is a weapon if you hold it right yeah every tool is a weapon i don't like that i guess i don't like the word weapon i know i don't like the if you don't conflict you know but i think like it or not we are in conflict and mitz would be the first one to be like dude we're in a war yeah don't come at me if you're sticking your your head in the sand or you're saying light and love like you got to acknowledge

1:28:36the darkness and you've got to acknowledge the ways that we are under attack how are you doing interfacing with um society these days give him these rabbit holes okay so it's really dude it's really interesting because you were talking again we had we had a conversation with our buddy obvi before this you were talking about that story um of your latest gig and how you came across how you got that that gig for in the in the unlikeliest of ways and um kelly and i and the kids go down this dirt road across the street that ends at an apple orchard it's like a mile down mile back and we take them down all the time and then even when we don't have the kids like kelly and i do it all the time there's blackberries all along this thing raspberries all along this thing right now so we go down and we pick and there's a side street called hilldreth that's posted it's like private road don't go down here and so we've never gone down it the last couple walks that we've taken in in this past month um this this guy in a truck has stopped like stopped and rolled down

1:29:37his window and like pointing at us as we're picking blackberries and eating and he has this big smile on his face he's like yeah look what you guys are doing like i love it kind of thing and he and his wife stopped and chatted with us um the like couple couple weeks ago and it turns out that she was one of the people who donated breast milk when kelly was in the hospital and she couldn't breastfeed she was the donor and they live down this private road hilldreth which is off this uh this dirt road and they're like we you guys should come over like our our dad uh we have chickens and our father raises chickens and he he slaughtered one recently we want to give it to you so we took this long walk down at the end of the day to their house and they're this cabin on a dead end road they've got acreage all around them wilderness all around them they've got four kids um the youngest is like two months and they've got chickens and their home stedding and get in conversation with the the dad who's a young guy who who logs this is all he does he's on a chainsaw and he logs all day long um and he was

1:30:41talking about whappers and i was like i don't know what a whapper is what's a whapper is like yeah i just like getting getting connected with other whappers and i'm like what's a whapper and he goes west in a price west in a price i heard of west in a price whappers and i look over and there's you know kelly's talking to the wife and i'm like kelly they're they're into west in a price they brought out their daughter brought brings out two glasses of raw milk for us to drink because he's like you guys look thirsty after your long walk um did they're right you know he's wanting to clear cut to get cattle in there get a jersey cow in there so they can milk and then some meat cows in there too and i'm like so you ask how i'm how i'm acclimating or interfacing with society and i'm finding that my our people are like finding us that's what's happening right now is like the here i'm the unmost unlikliest of places less than a mile from us by people who we've discovered are so like-minded walking distance are so like-minded like we're just scratching the surface of how

1:31:43like-minded and here's the better part here's the greatest part because it relates to this conversation we just had with the sharan he was telling me about how he was observing the night sky like the stars and he saw something fly by and he took out his phone and captured it and then sent it to his brothers and his brothers are like yeah you know i don't know what you're talking about it looks like a like a star or satellite or something and uh and he told me he was going to send me the video later so that night i'm in bed on my phone as i should never be um and boom his text comes through with this video and it is a recording of a some sort of craft moving through the night sky like kind of wobbling not an airplane there's no way this thing is moving like an airplane it's like wobbling and the way that's pulsing in light like airplanes have little flashing lights that are very clear like you know an airplane this thing had this pulsing sort of wobbling and he zooms in on it and you know i look i just wrote back and i'm like yeah that does not look like a plane uh so here's

1:32:45this dude observing the night sky and some funkiness going on in the night sky you know and then we have sharan talking about rags work and like seeing stars move move away in reaction to the organite there's just a lot of crazy overlaps but uh i was happy to interface with this aspect of society so close to me and so like mind it so i feel like we're attracting it yeah you're putting up like that or going energy man is that or going energy i've been in a period of of contraction you know there's been a lot of kind of calling and contraction and i think that that's just what happens and now as i you know as i said to kelly like i feel like we're starting to expand a little bit and we're connecting some thoughts in the in the local community and we're just being intentional about who we bring into that circle or who we really like sort of go all in with and anyway it's fun especially since you moved away from hodge yes you know yeah because you had bill and Cindy right there in the backyard and that felt like walking distance and like minded and food security

1:33:47and all the things and well just the best of the bad i mean the best people and the best neighbors you can ever ask for exactly i mean hands down hands down but they're not so far away we've talked before about the about um leaning into the western a price community maybe not even on the podcast maybe just in the conversation we had i think i think it was you in the context of like trying to get the mammals in front of like more like minded people and that this is a place that not as polarizing as maybe some of the other circles be hang out in yeah so that's great to hear that that connected it's good common ground yeah and i have been making noise about just starting a chapter up here yeah there's there isn't a chapter this far north and you know there there's plenty of people who are buying raw milk at the taproot down in Lancaster yeah like i can see the orders in the in the in the cooler like i can see all the names on it i'm like that's quite you know that's a few people anyone who's buying raw milk is like you're automatically within that level circle that overlapping circle with less than a price um yeah and then you know it's a step

1:34:52towards better food security for this community it's just you know start to start to start to like connect with those folks and open their eyes to some other conversations in this health space i mean ultimately like we are as healthy as our community is and i love i want my community to be as healthy as possible yeah that's god sounds like you're running starting a campaign yeah it's funny uh you alluded to that story i told you i'll just share real quick so the the folks who presented the mammals this last weekend um turned out to be western a price people and i was not expecting that at all um and then more often than not people in that community are health freedom minded and so just shout out to the folks um at the new moral moral new moral burrow meeting house for making that introducing themselves and and making that connection because in the music world as you know it's kind of few and far between finding those like minded folks but that was a wonderful discovery it's great let's find each other continue to do so yeah i hope i

1:35:58i i man i hope that i know you will i know that the mammals will just you're gonna get half your like 50% of your shows are gonna come through that yeah that channel now you could use fee you feel like that's the direction it's gonna go yeah because your music your music resonates you music resonates with everyone but i think you as you see as you as you witness like the testimonials of the people in that space who listen to your music like you know right they are there's something about it i do not drink water my be suspected it for years but it's not is finally going to fruition you know this stuff takes time yeah yeah yeah amazing um well uh you get the who coming up i think by the time this thing airs the hoop will have come and gone right so i i hope that it is an amazing hoot i'm sorry that we can't be there don't sweat it you got a lot going on up in the Hampshire we do and in the Hampshire but i suspect that this will be the only a one-year gap and then we'll be back at it next year it's better every year so it'll only be better next year yeah so please

1:37:01please please give my best and big big hugs to everyone down there we'll do tell them that i'm there in spirit 100 percent you will be missed for sure and mostly i'll just miss Hazel but she misses you too what's up looks the latest with Hazel sorry to interrupt you no that's okay that's okay um Hazel is she's crawling everywhere she's standing she's just pulled herself up to standing very early and now she just wants to stand all the time like haul herself up on stuff and stand um and that's like that's the biggest thing that she's doing i mean she's just so let's help me and smiley yeah yeah she's the best she's the absolute best and i i tend to just strap her in first thing in the morning put her in the front carry um we go out for a long walk like end of the day we're doing the same thing like she's just so game she's so game to just be hanging out checking out the world taking it all in and uh her first words will be coming soon i introduced the kids last story i introduced the kids and i regret this i've introduced into a lot of music that i regret immediately after after introducing it to them but they're already into metal heavy metal uh i can't

1:38:08put that toothpaste back in the toothpaste can um guar i don't know if you're ever familiar with oh yeah yeah yeah that's really heavy and really not really art right very gnarly art this is by way of my older brother Josh who was into everything but guar i don't know where i found the tape on his shelf guar dresses up as like prehistoric like almost dinosaur-looking characters on stage i don't feel like kind of like these meat costumes yes like like sort of meat like you know dinosaury costumes and the one song i remember Josh had on a mixtape or maybe it was like the song on this one this early early album theirs was gorgor and so i've played gorgor for the kids and now it's the only recommended song is that all they ever want to listen to whenever we get in the car gorgor can play gorgor and it is so heavy and that the album is called america must be destroyed and so gorgor is like this giant like tyranosaurus rex being that the lead singer it's like his bastard son and they have to fight each other like it's it's if you listen to it you're like what

1:39:10are nine-year-old shouldn't be listened to this but the the word the only thing these kids want right now is for hazel's first words to be gorgor and i promise them that if it is gorgor i will film it and send it to gwar who i believe is still performing and and hopes that we would get tickets all of us to their next their next concert oh mg yeah gorgor gorgor comes and you must die he swatts f-16s from the sky admit you crave the death he brings you fall and worship tyrant king you and they know every word well we will be waiting with baited breath for the terrain baby episode of first babies first word first baby's worth for gorgor all right we're saying what words are spells words are spells god i am i am a walking talking hypocrite but you know what these kids love it music is music joy to all in tramsol that's right and as veda austin said in in regard to

1:40:15emotos work around music and water water does not pass judgment it just interprets it does not pass judgment and so we must not pass judgment on this music we just it brings them together brings them joy they they sing about gorgor and hopefully they are not invoking or conjuring gorgor as a dark entity into our world it's like the stay puff march mille man you know in uh yeah and ghost busters you know yeah anyway all right folks nothing you heard here should be taken as medical advice is my neither mic nor i are medical experts remember that you are light you are love and you are your primary health care provider thanks for tuning in and we'll catch you on the next one oh