The Iran War: Trump's Defining Legacy /Robert Barnes & Lt Col Daniel Davis

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We have been talking mostly on this channel, especially today about the conduct of the war

Whether the United States is winning whether Iran is winning where this may go the next

But there's another capacity that needs to be discussed especially for an American audience in that is in the diplomatic in the

domestic audience

What is going to happen with depending on what Trump does or what happens or doesn't happen in the middle east?

What is that going to do to President Trump's legacy?

What is it going to do to the just the midterms coming up right now and there are some profound issues that may

Curl and there and may play out for the president in ways that he may not be thinking of but our guest today is and that is Robert Barnes

Who is a constitutional lawyer and just a really kind of a sage if I can go that far and say in it about how some of these things affect

The combination of international affairs and domestic politics. Welcome back to the show Robert. Yeah, glad to be here

Well, listen, let's let's just jump in real to this because

Will let's start off with some president Trump said just a couple hours ago

He went on with Brian Kilmeet on a radio show on his podcast and and of course he asked to kill me to ask the question

Everybody else is interested in when it's just going to be over and here's what he said

Coming right up

He leads the hope oh

This will bounce right back when it's over and I don't think it's going to be long when it's over

This is going to bounce right back so fast when you're going to know when it's over is when I feel it okay

I feel it in my bones will you ask anybody in particular without be some of these a joint decision with people I have great people

So I mean, you know, he's just going to feel it like in his bones, man. I mean

I mean, how could that not give you a lot of confidence that the commander chief knows what he's doing on this war?

Yeah, the markets are way behind what's taking place so Trump has no idea

Trump is almost kinglier mad in different respects

You I've been trying to tell people this for a little while. Yeah, I know we've discussed it offline

There I was there in January a lot of people at the top levels

We're very concerned about Trump's mindset mentality the art of the deal was you would

Expect the best but plan for the worst it was realism balanced with positive thinking the realism is now gone from Trump's mindset mentality

He doesn't plan for the worst at all. He just now has wishful thinking has replaced it. That's why he told the Europeans

Earlier in the week. Oh, Rand's already surrendered. They're just waiting to have somebody appointed as supreme leader to officially announce it

Trump Trump was convincing himself of these kind of things utterly insane things

He was told the straights of her moves were close. He's like nah, that won't happen

He was he was told that the Iran would continue to attack and could attack for months and months and months

Because of where their supplies were located. He's like nah, that won't happen

The whole regime will collapse democracy and peace and freedom will unite

They'll build big statutes of Trump in the middle of Tehran and there'll be total peace freedom and liberty around world

Uh, he convinced himself of baby's little whispering lies and so it's not going to get any better anytime soon on that front

And the big gamble he's taken that all the Republicans and conservatives have taken is they're gambling as much on

Anything there's the geopolitics of it. There's the military of it. There's the oil side of it

But really they're gambling on the future of the Trump coalition

The that's what they're willing to risk matt wall said even if this war went perfectly

I'm not willing to lose the midterms for it

But that is in fact what Trump is willing to do what the Republicans in the House are willing to do the Republicans in the senator

willing to do all the Fox News audience is willing to do

They're willing to sacrifice the 2026 midterms and right now what it's on pace for

I do a range of predictions for people that trade in and out of the prediction markets on politics and other events

I put out in February that we would go in before the end of the month

That was a 10-to-1 option. So people you know did well. They invested it

In some of the straits of our moves would close for more than seven days

That was a 10-to-1 proposition. It happened

But I think right now that Democrats are likely to win more than 240 seats in the House

They're likely to win 53 or more seats in the Senate

Oh, wow, particularly because Murkowski's going to flip

Trump is going to get impeached

Oh, I'm calling eggs death these days

He's going to get impeached. Pambondi's going to get impeached. Todd Blanche is going to get impeached

A whole bunch of people are going to rubio may get impeached because he misled the House in the Senate on intel related to this

So it's going to be a shit show on steroids and people should be calculating that when

Seal clapping for this war to continue

Well now let's just get into that and in fact I'll leave back up just a wee bit from where you even started off here

Why and the operative question is why do you think Trump would

Dismiss all of the things you just mentioned and then let me add one to that list because I don't know about a month and a half or so before this

Were started one of the things that got my attention

We put it on the show here is that he was told that the or he was asking in an interview

That the Iranians said that if you attack this time unlocking 2025

We're going to hit American bases. We're going to hit the Israelis

We're going to if you fire one missile. It's full-scale war with us

And he said now they won't that that's what they said last time they didn't do it

And just went on his merry way

We know for sure that the NIC report that came that was leaked out before the war came out warned it nearly everything that's happened

They warned that it would happen

So he is reading ignored everything all the list you just mentioned

But the question is why why would he risk all these things with all the evidence he had

That they wouldn't succeed that he risk it anyway

Three main factors are in play

One is Trump's I was Colonel McGregor has pointed out Trump cut a deal with the devil in the fall of 2024

To have all the big Israel first donors that had campaigned forever against him that they were the lead against him for 10 years

Lobby spent all the money to defeat him in 2016 did it again in 2024

Let the russia gate efforts back in many ways the warfare against him

This includes everybody from Paul Singer to Mary Amados and others

Paul Singer helped originate russia gate all the way back you he put

Chrysler first deal on the payroll before anybody did

In the US and so but Trump decided that he was desperate for one thing above all to win

To get full of indication in 2024

He wasn't willing to gamble

That that would happen without their support

So he cut a quiet deal behind the scenes. He didn't let Bobby Kennedy know about this

He didn't let JD Vance know about this

He didn't let Tulsi Gabbard know about this who would join the campaign on the premise that this would be the peace presidency

The anti-war candidacy and so I think that is a substantial factor

Miria that's what the israel lobby wants they wanted suppression of the Epstein files and war with Iran and

Green lighting whatever else israel wanted to do whether it's Lebanon Syria Gaza or anywhere else

But that's only one part the second part is that he is increasingly become frankly delusional

I mean people in the white house at the cabinet level were telling me that he was that they that everybody

Including billionaires of them of their own making were scared to say anything negative about Trump

The tsuzi wiles had spread the message who previously worked for BB Netanyahu by the way

Uh spread spread the message not to share anything negative with the president

The president has taken his positive thinking and turned it into wishful thinking and it's hallucinatory thinking

That's why he is he convinces himself of insane things

Insane propositions. He's told by Gabbard. It's not true by the director of national intelligence

He's told by general king that it's not going to happen the way he thinks it has been told and warned repeatedly by vice president vance

He just shuts it out and he I call it memento memory based on the movie memento

He listens to the lie and believes the lie

He hears the truth and he shuts it out it disappears from his memory disappears from his mind

So he is truly convinced himself. That's why you're saying things like man

I was shocked that they're going in to hit the our military bases

I'm shocked that they closed the straight to our most

I'm shocked that there hasn't been a revolution in Iran. I'm shocked that the regime hasn't collapsed

I'm shocked that they still have missiles

It's because he's convinced himself of these lies. It's like Richard Nixon watergate talking to paintings at the end

Around the White House as if they're real people that's where Trump is mindset wise. It's very king leader going mad kind of he

That the combination of Lindsey Graham BB Netanyahu he it's what he believes what he wants to believe and he ignores

Whatever he doesn't want to believe and it's becoming very very dangerous because he's utterly disconnected from reality

And it's where positive thinking can go AWOL

So it's a combination of the Israel lobby promises that he made to basically go along with whatever whatever BB Netanyahu requested

And this has been his life dream

This is why you don't have a coherent strategy being announced

You don't have a coherent plan being announced. You don't have coherent objectives

He did it for the Israeli donors and BB Netanyahu

But he can't fully say that Rubio implicitly acknowledged and admitted it

It's leaked out from various parts of the press

But that's why but he can't publicly acknowledge that

So that's why he's got to go around and pretend he did it

And and thus the objectives keep shifting the plan keeps shifting the reasons keep shifting

Well, so okay, so

Part of that makes sense and especially the kinglier thing

I have been saying for months that I think that there's something cognitive wrong that is definitely declining

And I think there's a lot of evidence for that so I I can see that one

And I don't know maybe that that answers the question. I will have right before that

Which is even if Trump made a deal with the devil with financial to get the money because he didn't want to take a risk

That also is logical to me

But where the logic starts falling apart is okay

But once you're in office

You're not running again. So you don't have to worry about that money coming back in

But why would you take something an action now which

rationally would lead to

Screwing the last two years that you have assume that you don't get impeached even if that happened here

Why would you take something that is likely to undermine that as opposed to just saying hey

I know y'all get me money, but dude. I'm not going to go down a path. It's going to harm everything that I've worked for

You would think so and you and that's what vice president vans thought so when friends of mine met him at the

Back in January said don't worry. We're not going to go into Iran. That's too much risk

And the president knows it and somewhere along and by early February president convinced himself otherwise

And the key is he convinces himself

It's real and you're seeing it like on the peers the other problem the Republicans in the House and the Senate the think tank crowd and Fox news

Is re-infor- and CBS news all reinforcing this. Oh, yeah, we're dominating. We're whipping. We're crushing. We're humiliating

We're we're going to be in big the oil is going to be back

No problems price is going to disappear

The all the in fact, it's going to it's going to help you in the midterms mr. President

You're going to be the guy who took down Iran. You're going to be the guy who finally fought back after 47 year

They're reinforcing this insanity and that's why he doesn't recognize it

He he has convinced himself. There is no risk here that the risk is very low. I'm sorry

That's we have a perfect thing cute up for that. Here's one of many examples

This is Kevin McCarthy just a couple of days ago almost reading from that playbook if you look at for the long term history

President Trump is going to be praised for this because I don't think any other president would do it before or into the future

And it's changed geopolitics

If Iran was able to be able to have a nuclear weapon

There would be 40 countries then because everybody would have one and the world would be unsafe

If you look at the rise of not just China, but the crinks China, Russia, Iran and North Korea

China needs 11 million barrels of oil every single day

They get a large portion from Russia, but a bigger portion from Iran even with the sanctions

They get a discount and Venezuela

So this is reshaping the world and actually making it safer domestic politics

People will get upset the price of oil is up, but will it sustain that?

I don't believe so the worst thing we could do is leave this before the job is done

Leave this before the the price of oil would be up for a little while

That's live so far that's gone up $4 so far today and you can see where it's gone since this war started

Is Mike McCarthy just trying disinformation to confuse the president or is he just that

I'll just use a kind word

Misinformed about the realities

Fantastic delusion is the mindset

I mean the people you know going down the rabbit hole in Alice and Wonderland have more clarity on reality then does

Donald Trump Kevin McCarthy the Republican establishment or the war horse combined

They're I mean people like for you and I we've been through this, but a lot of new generation people have it

They forget when we went into Iraq. Oh be easy. It'll be over in a couple of months. No problems. No breeze

You know, there's no difficulties. Well peace and freedom democracy. They'll walk it up

Welcome us with flowers and open arms

The you can go back further

Similar promises made about Afghanistan similar promises made about Vietnam similar promises made about Korea

This has been a repeated false claim and usually there's some percentage of people in in the political power structure

That convinced themselves of it

Lindsey Graham convinces himself of it now. He just loves to see war wherever it is

man that that gets him going

but the

More ways than one unfortunately

But the the that's what Trump has been he's surrounded himself selectively with the people that

Causes problems and those of us that back to him in in 2024 believe that the presence of Kennedy in vans and gathered in Kobe

And Kent would discourage and deter this but he just decided to systematically ignore them

Says systematically shut them out. He even pulled JD vans off the tour last week

That's why you haven't seen him anywhere didn't even get to do his own

Town hall now, you know, the it's being published that he was always against this war in this conflict

But he had always kept a lid on those kind of leaks before because he didn't want people to know where he publicly disagreed

With the president

But now he's got no choice

The uh, but he always did does these people think he's secretly a war promoter. They don't they have no idea

What went on behind the scenes literally everybody came gathered

In vans all lobbied against the war said it would be a disaster

It would be a deba and what was Trump's reaction when he started to see their promises come true

He's shut them out more

Block them out more stop them from making appearances more you you have someone who's going delusional and a bunch of curt

Cordy or courtiers to the military industrial complex

It encouraging and saying yeah tearing it on can you be crazier and crazier because we're going to feed you more and more nonsense and delusions

Okay, so

This is a whole set of problems here

But first of all for anyone who's been living under a rock to validate one more thing that you just said here

This is going back to Fox news here, but in this case Maria barked the Romos actually trying to say hey

There's some real problems here and her guest at this particular calm

One Lindsey Graham

Dreams seems to just push back on all of it

A billion dollars a day oil prices up 27% in a week

You've got the president wanting a one and a half trillion dollars a defense budget in 27

The the idea that the Pentagon is about to come to you for 50 billion dollars on these strikes to Iran

How are you going to answer best money ever spent? Was it worth to America to take down a religious Nazi regime

Who's trying to build a nuclear weapon to deliver to America? That's a really good investment

They're going to fall. Let's stop if the regime falls. It's a matter of when and you didn't mention today

And nobody has quite frankly. We now know they had enough

60% enriched uranium to make 11 bombs

What's that worth to America to make sure they don't have 11 bombs?

All of this money is to make sure they never go nuclear

They can't hit us with ballistic missiles and they stop terrorizing the region

Three are dying for your dying

No, you're free. Yes, and we will be and the Russians are dying

So the best money we've ever spent

Thanks

Now he said in the end of that first clip there

You know, we now know that they had a nuclear bomb material and they could have made 11

bombs and I'm like okay

We put that out on our show in July of last year. So it's been well known. So he's just making it's just nonsense of that

but

At some point I mean whether it's Fox News whether it's president Trump you got to see that

This this version of reality the Lindsey Graham has just been cheerleading like

Like a crazy man is just not matched up with the end. I mean with reality

He said it's only a matter of time before the regime falls and now then intelligence is saying what we've already known

This is not going to make them fall and now here at 14 days and counting there is solidified as ever. What do you say?

Yeah, no doubt about that anybody objective whether it's about you Colonel McGregor talking about the the Iran

Alexander McCorris and Alex Christopher Rue

Anybody that does independent objective geopolitical and military analysis brain and white shirt

Many of them are were Trump allies or Trump supporters at various levels the or were sympathetic with more sympathetic with Trump the Democrats

All of them what they have predicted has come true with all the war cheerleaders predicted have not come true

Now the problem is Trump is shutting himself out from negative information

He's not following Joe Rogan. He's not following Tucker Carlson

He's not following any of the podcasters. He's not following independent geopolitical analysis

That information gets to him to people like Tulsi Gabbard and JD Vance

But currently he's shutting them out as well

He only wants to hear everything's going great. Everything's going to be good. Everything's going to be fine

We're going to be a big winners. I'm going to be a big winner

This is going to be me as FDR and Churchill like Lindsey Graham has been whispering to him

And he's only listening to them. He's only he talks to Sean handy Lindsey Graham every single day

The that's the level of it. He only wants to hear man. You're doing great. You're doing awesome

This is amazing. Iran is falling. It's collapsing. That's and so he want he convinces himself of this

That's why he goes out and says it

He says stuff that's completely denied by reality like oh it's straightforward moves is open

No, it's not and you can beat hegs this version today

Oh, it's totally open aside from Iran firing bombs and killing and knocking out the ships. Yeah

It's like the the the hunting path the the walking path is fine

Out in the woods except for that bear that keeps eating everybody. So I mean, it's just a level of stupidity

That's insanity, but that's what you have in Trump unfortunately right now

The they need to put Trump lock him up in the basement someplace let him watch movies and people cheering him and and get us out of this war because he by himself won't do it

Well, and then the the question is what what impact is that going to have on the

On the midterms that are coming up here now Lindsey Graham is going to say will of course the American people

I mean with that's the best money ever spent and they'll agree with it because just have think we now have all this

Claims that they're not going to have a nuclear bomb and all the stuff that goes along with that

But when you look at the polling data tells a different story now one of the things I want to point out on this particular poll

You're if you can pop that up there that I heard you talked about on a TPU essay

Video here soon is that top one there got a lot of attention did with me when I first saw it

She knows that 90% of mega Republicans are behind all this

Now there's another number on here, which I think is just catastrophic for the midterms

And I'll talk about that in a second

But first of all I'd like to hear your assessment of that 90% number there on the mega Republicans

Yes, so the moral light the about about a month ago the repuls RNC and other connected parties to the White House

Made clear to a bunch of pollsters that are Republican aligned

That they are going to start doing polls that don't talk about negatively about the war of the Epstein files

And if they did they would be all their contracts would be canceled

So after that Mark Mitchell of Rasmussen reports disappeared from social media

The uh, and we haven't seen him do any polls since then the

The insider advantage and Robert Tafalger route faken polls cbs a berry-wice is faking polls on the regular for her elison

Pro-Israel israel first owners

The that are soon to buy an own CNN as well too

So the these so part of it is these polls are fake

That they're rigged

But one of the ways they're rigging him is by saying is by defining mega in such a way that only the people that are for the war

It becomes circular. Are you for the war then then we define you as maga. Hey, maga. Do you now are you now for the war?

See it works like that

Patrick Basham democracy institute polls for the daily mirror in the UK

Has been a very trump friendly pollster historically he broke it down in more detail

And what he found was working class republicans overwhelmingly opposed the war new republican or new trump coalition voters

who are independent leaning voters

Like younger voters Hispanic voters African-American voters that voted for trump overwhelmingly opposed the war that voters who identify as america first instead of maga

Or identify as maha instead of maga

Up overwhelmingly opposed the war. It's because maga is increasingly being signed

Do you as seen as do you are you part of the trump cult that whatever trump believes you believe even if he reverses himself

20 you know 180 tomorrow will you still support it just because of what he does

That's increasingly who maga is so it's increasingly an irrelevant proxy the group number of americans that identify as maga is shrinking

shrinking and shrinking

So Richard Barris of people's funded deal use the best pollster in the country

Has been founding republicans do not support this working class republicans new republicans don't but independence

Overwhelming opposed and that's you need to win the midterms

It's like winning 94% of a 10% of the vote that isn't going to get you very far

Right exactly what I was going to say Gary if you could pull that poll back up there again

That's exactly what I was going to point to because

Look at what happened in the 2016 and 2024 elections were president trump won

And you had especially the 2016 in my assessment and stuff that I've read

Says that probably the deciding factor for him winning was in those districts where there was a lot of casualties

American

Families who lived who had casualties during the Iraq war so they were they were really

Ella animated by his comment about no stupid wars etc

I was one of them. I voted for him for that reason

And then the 2024 you had a lot of independence vote for him in the areas

In the swing state so he won by pretty narrow margins and so many the swing states

But that's because he had a significant number of the independence without that

I mean it could be a bloodbath in November don't you think oh yeah

In fact right now I would predict democrats are going to win by the biggest margin in terms of the house generic ballot

So to speak when you aggregate all democratic and republican votes for the house the biggest margin they ever have in the modern era

It's going to be a double digit win

So one of the the best proxy questions has been asked by american national elections survey or studies up in the i think university of michigan since the 1940s

And which is which party do you think is more likely to keep us out of horror?

And whoever won that vote particularly in key swing states like Wisconsin like a Michigan like in Ohio like in Iowa

And increasing in the southwest because a lot of his panic you know his panic and black working class voters that we're willing to vote trump

Disproportionately have friends or family that are in the military

So the that's the other overlap. It's disproportionate military service

Which also leads to disproportionate as you noted military fatalities

And there was a direct one-to-one correlation in the Obama to Trump shift in the Midwest the more a precinct or community or neighborhood or county

Had more casualties the higher the probability they shifted from Obama to trump in 2016

So you've got the historic anti-war leaning vote in the Midwest

And then you've got this new increasingly anti-war vote and and also in apple latch has always been very anti-war

You'll see Thomas Massey hold on

Contra to all the built millions and millions. They're dumping in against him

Because that area historic only congressman to vote against the Tonkin resolution came from eastern Kentucky

So you know, that's an old history goes way back

And then you add the working class black voters in the south and working class Hispanic voters through the southwest

That also were new 2024 Trump coalition voters who helped keep those states or flip those states to the

Trump column and these voters are overwhelmingly off the res they are overwhelmingly rejecting this war in these foreign conflicts

And what they see is it's just a foreign distraction

It's not just some of these voters are just instinctively anti-war

They know friends or family that they fear are going to die in the war or get injured severely injured

We're we're lying on a regular basis. I don't know how many time we're lying to the markets. We're lying to the public

And then we're lying to everybody about the casualties. Oh, that was a friendly fire incident. Oh, that was an accident

Oh, that was oh, we just had a little medical emergency. I mean all of this will be exposed as lies

You know, they're at major risk. We'll get to you know impeachment risk war crimes being included lies to the public being included

They're taking unconscionable risk in my opinion

Including forfeiting the midterms at this point right now Democrats were win by double digits in the house

That would translate into massive margins the kind of margins that will easily impeach everybody

And then you'll have a democratic senate

So they'll be up and that means Trump's legislative agenda is dead

And it means all Trump is going to face and then there'll be real scandal investigations now

Somebody on the inside is trading on inside information and prediction markets like polymarket regularly

They've already tied at one case to is to israel other cases to it appears US military or political officials

Including the end the secretary of energy say that the navy was escorting people through the streets of foremost

That was false

But somebody made a hundred million dollars and eight minutes on that false information

So you've got the justice department that is regularly selling out access the live nation case

Just got shut down and on a sweetheart settlement that the lead trial lawyer for the any trust division didn't even know

Happened he didn't even know about it until Pam Bondy told him they'd done a secret settlement

And it's being funded by big corporate lobbyists the same corporate lobbyist by the way currently running interference

For the Trump administration on the legality of this war like Mike Davis

Who's not even registered as a lobbyist so he's committing a federal felony on a daily basis

So this time around the impediments will have real fire underneath the smoke

Not only in the Iran war the then as well in conflict

I mean you have Pete Hicksett out there bragging about committing war crimes

He says we give no quarter to our enemy of any kind

Yeah, okay, can you pull that up because I that's yeah

I don't want anybody to take our word for this one. I want you to see it. This is from today

Uh when Pete Hicksett went out there and I think yes, he's trying to give a kind of a raw raw thing toward the end about

saying how we're tough and all this but uh watch what he actually says

They're confused and we know it our response

We will keep pressing we will keep pushing keep advancing no quarter no mercy

I mean that what what are you talking about no quarter no mercy those are war crimes period and to say that's what we're doing

That's not tough. That's foolish that contradicts everything we have ever been told and taught and learned in in

Military I mean the our military lawyers that we have to go to classes to learn we can't do that

Because that's that's country to international law it's contrary to American law

Well, just look at what Israel did yesterday

Israel released and stopped the criminal prosecution of those group of soldiers who were systematically raping

Palestinian detainees and got caught in the and it was an Israeli whistleblower blew the whistle on them yesterday

They they released them all said it's a blood libel if we even talk about this horrific

War crime and violation of law and they're doing it in the middle of this conflict while Israel's going into Lebanon and hitting oil refineries

and

Water sanitation plants both war crimes particularly the water sanitation plants is a war crime

But the way in which they hit that oil facility that caused black rain is what they're calling it now toxic chemical

Whole cloud over to Ron is also a war crime and then of course

We started off this whole war with the war crime by bombing a little girl school

And the president just lied repeatedly about who did it pretending it I ran did it the when everybody I knew for people close

I assume you probably may have heard the same thing people that were close to the Pentagon that they knew that we did it

Then there's demon they're wanting to come up with an excuse for it

My concern is that we have Israelis in our Pentagon and at the CIA dictating things

Why do we have foreign government agents inside our Pentagon inside our CIA

Involved in this operation at this level. Why did I mean they went out and said oh well

We didn't hit the oil refineries. We didn't hit the word the Israel did

Well, because they have what different objectives than what are they doing in the war?

What are they doing in the conflict at all?

But me who's running this war peers israel's running this war in the US is doing it for israel's benefit at their behalf

You see bibi netanyahu out there saying now word israel's the global power even not not the US

Israel because we've got the US right on our little puppet strings and so the

But what he's doing is war crimes what he's been involved in his war crimes

I mean, can you imagine the president going up and saying hey, we could we could seize this ship

And I'm saying hey said thing. No, it's more fun to sink it sink ships and open waters that we were told about so

It what would not be attacked by the Indians and we're bragging about them drowning

We prosecuted people after Nuremberg over exactly this so these are open and shut more crimes by the president

by the secretary of war

And I wonder how long and this would be a question for you at some point don't don't some of these military officials have to resign

rather than continuing to participate in this

That's a question that I have as well that uh, you know

Where where are the resignations because where is all that the the morality of war

And the honor that we have I was taught my entire career and was told by the highest levels

You have to do the right thing even when it's unpopular

You have to say no to illegal orders. You have to say uh, we're going to do the right thing no matter

What kind of pressure I get from above they taught those classes they and they demanded that we learn them

Where are they now when it comes to when it matters the most this is when it matters not when you're doing some damn class somewhere

And I don't see any of it so far

Yeah, I agree, but I think the I think we will see the first set of impediments using war crimes

In American history over this

Combined with Venice especially because you have the president running around saying I don't have to be held accountable

It's only my own soul my own conscience that I have to listen to that's it. That's my only guidepost

Hegs that I mean look at what the White House is doing in a right we bombed a little girl school

And and what are we doing? We're putting out, you know, little memes and videos like it's a football game

Like it's a game of golf like it's an arcade video game

This is horrific. This is morally horrendous behavior

This is everything that the people that were critics of Trump and critics of America

Clinged about us on full display that we are literally team of America world police South Park

Film it the we think that's a script to use to celebrate this kind of conflict in the childish way

I mean hegs death always sounds like he's reading off of a script the

You know, oh, yeah, I can sound macho here. No sound real tough over here. I'm like you know

I'm in an action film like Dan Bonzino like Dan ball is Bonzino. Oh, yeah, I'll do my karate on you

These people are a disgrace disgrace to the American military

Disgrace to the American founders disgrace to the American people. They are doing incredible damage to our public reputation

For what for what they're gonna gain nothing out of this except BB Netanyahu patting himself on the back is television gets hit one more time

Yeah, and they're Gary showing that on the screen right there. It was just

Reprehensive. I was just shocked

When I saw these things here that it never won. They're they're really poor quality. It's bad

And then it's just stupid as it can possibly be to equate a game

A kid's game known the less with killing people in battle and like that's a fun thing. I just uh

I mean it's morally reprehensible. There's no better way to put it than you just did

And there's nothing better shows you the insanity of

Trump and Hegsdith in this war than this kind of behavior operation epic fury started like it's a video. Okay

I mean this is

I know what genius thought hey, let's use the first part of epic

Is the same part as Epstein you know the first two letters. I mean that's how out of touch these people are

Iran is now using the Epstein files as they're we're in a war against the Epstein class that you know

We're out or the Iranian leaders are out protesting in the streets out by the way for everybody to see

Ask yourself would any of those leaders be out on the street

If they thought any Iranian rebellion was happening anytime. So yeah, they're out there without even big security surroundings

This includes the entire hierarchy of the current not the sub not the new supreme leader who I mean why did is anybody think

How how often do we two things one there was a military official who wants us to go to war with and you you know

Once they keep the war going in Ukraine, but he admitted that there's never been in the history of warfare

any evidence that a air campaign will change your regime didn't work for Nazi Germany

Didn't work in Imperial Japan didn't work in Vietnam didn't work in Korea didn't work in Afghanistan

didn't work in

It's not going to work now in

Iran the there's no evidence of that the second part is we misunderstood the regime

And this is because Trump chose to the director of national intelligence to see gathered explain

That you you combine the Persian pride with the Shiite Islamic martyrdom tradition with Iranian nationalism

You put that trifecta together and recognize the history of bombing leading to the nation rallying to round the flag

Not rallying against the flag in favor of the bomber in favor of the invader

And see said there was there was no chance the regime would collapse

Trump just convinced himself now they're foolish. They're wrong the babies whispers and Lindsey Graham's whispers are right

You've Alex Jones saying you know he's taking a double double pounding for these guys

And all we're trying to do is drag him out of there the uh and and he thinks it's a love affair

Instead of a gang bang by the neocon deep state warhorse

And so the that's the nature of what's taking place and it's I find it just horrendous at all kinds of levels

And I don't think they understand this. I mean, I they're assuming that Trump's is going to write among apartments

Cory Lewandowski was busy stealing millions of dollars and helping in Christy gnome do the same and was grinning around bragging

Don't worry. Uh, I'm going to get a pardon from the president a rogue doge employee stole 500 million

So security numbers to use for a private business. He said don't worry. Trump's going to pardon everybody

It we're running the White House like it's a gangster operation like it's something out of the New York mob

But even the New York mob knew in the show restraint. Trump does not

Well, and that leads me to the next question here, which is I mean

I'm we're going to talk about that the where this is going to lead militarily in this war here

Because it's it's in a really dark place and it could go a lot worse for us here coming up

But let's look at the bigger issue. I think

You said it's kind of he's in a kind of a kinglier situation

I said he's I've been using the analogy that it's like Nero

Fiddling while Rome is burning. I it's one of those two. Maybe it's a combination

I don't know

But here's my big worry about that not just that it's foolish not just that it's got us into a war. We can't win

But what if it becomes clear that it's not going to win and these poll numbers even the ones that are

They're trying to doctor up or making look good even those don't work

It starts going bad and now he can see even through all of this

I don't know fog

Did he's going to get a blood bath come November

And that there's the risk that he may use a tactical nuclear weapon

To do what the military can't do to open that straight of horror moves. Do you see that is a possibility?

I think the biggest risk I agree with Colonel McGregor the

You know, I've taken a lot of heat for defending Trump now for 10 years to personal and professional sacrifice given how he's behaved in the last

Month or so the and so that the question becomes what's my assessment?

I think we have enough checks and balances that there's no chance the US will authorize nuclear weapons

Do we have the same checks and balances over BB Nihahu and Israel now?

I'm assuming well when this came up in the summer of last year

Pakistan said if a rent if Israel uses nuclear weapons Pakistan will use nuclear weapons against Israel

So I assume that by itself is enough of a sufficient deterrence to prevent that from happening

But it's a these are the ideas being floated some are let's put around

On a second so so are you suggesting that checks and balances but Trump knows no checks and balances on anything

He has clearly shown the Constitution the US law mean nothing to him. He will do whatever he wants

Are you suggesting do you think that the situation could arise to where he may want to do what I just said and give the order

We're going to use tactical nuclear weapons and someone's going to say no

Yes, yes, my understanding is that the we have internally enough military checks and balances that that won't happen

My own view of Trump is he's convincing himself of this delusion to such a degree that he'll stay in it as long as he can

So he'll never use nuclear weapons because they'll think oh, we're just about to win and they're just about to surrender

So I think he'll stay in that mindset for as long as possible and I hope he I mean I've been shocked

I mean you remember for his first term he usually seen bothered anytime American soldiers died

He seemed bothered if civilians died

That's why the Syrian strikes were so all of a sudden he's lost all of that

I mean, you'd think some alien came down and replaced him or something

The are wearing like a bad simulation and we got bad Trump instead of good Trump or retard Trump instead of smart Trump

the

By the his bait because he's showing a lack of humanity for the concerns of what happened with the girls and other

Rainian but also our own soldiers like yeah, well that's what happens and we have terrorism here. Yeah, that's what happens

It's like what did this is not anything like the Trump I've watched for a long long time

So that leads me to be I can I be sure that he won't do something crazy like hey, let's see what our nukes look like I can't say that

Now like I would have had 99.9% confidence before old has started. Yeah, but my understanding is inside the US we have many

Chexon balances on nuclear weapons that the that there's enough people around maybe including the vice president

So that we would never go we would never cross that line my bigger concern is do we have those checks and balances on BB

Less confident than you are because number one those nuclear codes the nuclear football go with him all the time and

I would have thought that there would have been some of these senior leaders that wouldn't have gotten us into a war that any rational analyst said

We can't win and yet there they are and they're still executing all these missions

Maybe they would stop that one, but maybe they wouldn't so I'm I'm less confident. Let's hope we don't find out

But I'll just say I'm less confident

Yeah, all right, uh, well, you know the my hope is that JD would tackle at that point

The uh just just you know get a bit jazzy and he's a younger guy. He's a stronger guy the uh

He actually served in the military whereas Trump, you know had some bone spurs or whatever had to skip that draft the

So you'll hopefully JD will get it. We'll get him under control

Yeah, my other worry though is I don't I've heard different things about whether we have a veto on Israel BB using him

That's my you know like there's a part of BB that seems so

Disconnected himself. I mean he's out there saying this is going great. This is going awesome

They're doing mass censorship in Israel. So nobody knows outside of Israel

What's even happening there and they wouldn't be doing that mass censorship

If it was going so well

Iran is inviting in foreign press. Israel is censoring it

So that gives you a sense of who thinks they're doing well in the war and so the

So my concern would be whether Israel does so

Now I think anybody uses nuclear weapons will be a permanent political pariah if Trump were to do that

He would get impeached and removed uh

He would be removed from them and it would be a utterly discrediting in so many different directions and ways

Uh, he may even get blocked up in the interim

So I I Trump himself has never talked that way has always been concerned about nuclear weapons

So I hope that sanity is still present in his soul

Uh, but I don't know

Used to care about troops being killed too and that seems to have managed so that leads to another hard question here

Is there and forget about the midterms of what may happen in 27 you've you've covered that a lot and I think that's

Very plausible

But in between now and then if this kinglier thing keeps going in in dangerous directions

What are the chances of a 25th amendment? I would have thought I I have always said well, there's no chance

I mean he hand picked all these people around him

But if this thing gets far enough

I mean is it the safe bet to say that they won't take action on that

They could the practical problem is the he can contest it and you've got to get the same amount of you have to get even more

Support from the house in the Senate for the 25th amendment than you do for impeachment

For removal so like you have to get to to like if he challenges it under the so let's say the majority of cabinet says he's lost it

He's out

They submit that to Congress they can seize control for a couple of days Trump can contest it and unless two thirds vote to confirm that in the House and the Senate

Trump's back in so the 25th amendment is really only useful when a person is truly

malfunctioning you know you'd have to have Trump not in a position to be able to contest it to Congress

In order for that to work

So I think I mean, I'm hoping that Trump the I mean the other problem with all this is the reinforcement from Fox News and the Murdoch media

Establishment the what Trump doesn't realize all these people when this war goes south as it goes south

They'll just shift blame on Trump. That's what they didn't see any loss here for the deep

Yeah, the deep states position was either we win this conflict and we get to take out

Iran one of our main adversaries for 50 years or

We get Trump taken out and discredits the criticisms of the deep state and criticisms of the war someone that we have long been at war with for 10 years

Ourself so the deep states all this is that that would equal JD Vance coming back in and right they need to take him out first

Some of my friends and my wife is one of them voted for Trump last time because of JD Vance

So if they get rid of Trump then they get Vance right

And that's what we're going to try to take out Vance first. That's what the the way how they do that

They're going to use scandals connected to the antitrust division

So the uh and the uh and you know Vance knows of this risk in this warning

And it's why he's staying in like somebody were saying hey resign

Well, he resigns would could create a whole different set of issues. So the uh

And his ability to influence the administration will be growing

So he's going to try to be the restraining factor is saying with Tulsi Gabbard try to be the restraining factor as long as they can

He was a complete betrayal. I give Bobby candy credit

He saw all this going on. He's like I think I'm going to go into surgery

I need a surgery anyway. I'm going to go on your hand easier for a week and so well

For then this isn't happening for Bobby. I mean it's been so much of his political capital lifelong political capital to get into this situation

And Trump's blowing it all up the so yeah, I mean hopefully

Somebody I think it's going to probably require people in the Pentagon people in the Pentagon. I've got to start stepping up

You've got to have some generals or high-ranking military officials publicly announced their resignation over what's going on

You've got to have things like that

Uh, I think some of that I think notices the Pentagon leaking the information about the US being responsible for the girl school

They're the ones spoon feeding that to the New York Times in the Washington Post

Those are people that are unhappy with this conflict

And they know it's at Achilles heel already for Trump

Because it looks so horrible and horrifying

Remember when he was ragged on Putin saying Putin was hitting old folks homes

Never really made a lot of sense

But how do you get on that moral grandstanding campaign when uh you when you just bombed a little girl school

And appears we even double tap the school to you. I mean, I don't know if that's correct or not

But I mean it does who's doing the live surveillance as uh the live uh feet

I you know

There's a lot of questions there

And I do wonder whether we'll come back to some israeli connected party because Israel is showing it believes in collateral punishment is an effective mechanism of control in Lebanon and in Gaza

So isn't that probably what they're doing here?

Yeah, that's for sure

Uh

In the rain or the time we have here, uh

Let's look a little bit beyond the midterms here and just what are some of the

implications uh for the conservative movement in the event

That this wipeout happens. I mean you can't even call it a blue wave

I mean it sounds more like a tsunami or something possibly even bigger here

But what is the implications for the things that President Trump ran on and some of the things that so many of the conservative voted him into and not just conservative

But other independent Americans what is the ramifications policy was if you get a big blue wave like this

So basically legislative agenda dead

Second thing is a lot of your executive agenda is handicapped by all the scandal investigations

They'll use their subpoena power

The a bunch of people should just step down if they're smart

The as soon as the blood bath happens

Because every there would be subpoena you know christy gnome and her scandals

Cory Lewandowski and his scandals pan bondy and Todd Blanche and Stanley Woodward and their scandals at the justice department

Hexeth and these scandals at the defense department Rubio and his scandals at the state department

Uh, yeah, I mean you've got one after the other after the other after the other after the other and they're not gonna be able to get anything done

And so the the concern now the smart approach is to find all the most popular

populist policies that these independent voters as part of his coalition wanted and do as much as you can through the executive branch

To make changes whether to my food freedom or medical freedom or financial freedom political freedom

Dealing with the law fair dealing with the deep state dealing with censorship dealing with any trust

dealing with a wide range you'll help you allow people to buy food directly from the farmer

Use the Department of Agriculture could do that on its own without legislative support

Because it's sort of hijacked the sale of raw milk for example was made up by this the cdc

It was not congratulate off the rise

So there's a bunch of things that are niche issues to either maha or og mega america first people

That he could push through in the exact and that would be the smart way to mitigate the harm and get back some buy-in from his base

I fear what tends to happen when they get hit like this is they double down not only on stupid war policies

But they double down on serving the donor class and all of a sudden you're hearing talk about well

We're not gonna do mass deportations anymore

That would be a massive disaster because that's a whole separate wing of his party

There's some overlap but not a perfect overlap

There are people that are okay with this war that but do demand immigration being forced

If he drops that then he's got no base support anymore

And it's when your base collapse even Nixon and Nixon in 74 and Bush in 08 their base still hadn't collapsed

Their base was still with them. There was everybody else had left

But their base was still there if he doesn't deliver on immigration reform

Then his base will completely fracture and collapse and then he's got no support from anywhere

And he's a dead man walking politically

And he better just sit there and sign pardons all day for his friends his family and everybody else in the cabinet

and then the last question is

Whether before or after a wipeout

What about those pesky Epstein files? Are they gonna go anywhere because uh so far

Only two people have been held to any account one's already jailed and one is dead and nobody knew on the list

But a lot of angry americans

If he was smart what he would do is

Unleash a an effective Epstein prosecution to show to to rebut the criticism and to get some a public accountability

It's one of the most unifying issues in the country

Public accountability for people that are criminally implicated in the Epstein files now. It's coming out

You know Kushner has son-in-law that's causing a lot of these problems in these overseas conflicts

Either lying or to misinterpreting what the Iranians were proposing in negotiations

The unless Trump is lying about what he told him

You know, you can't be sure

But you have getting billions of dollars from the oilcheeks uh in the

You know as the beginning of this conflict almost like a buyoff to go to war with Iran

They now those oilcheeks might have misread. I wouldn't work out

But you know, there wouldn't be the last time. It would be the first first or last time those guys have done that

But you you've got all of those

You know later you and then it turns out Kushner is connected to people that were just convicted of human trafficking that were

Related and of course Kushner himself is in the Epstein files he invited Epstein to some of his parties

I mean the guy chose to own a building called 666

You know I mean I mean you got to wonder a little bit

But so the guy you say you mean Kushner used to have BB Netanyahu's sleeping in his house

So that's how close they were so the all of those aggregate concerns

You way you answer that is you unleash a real meaningful prosecution of the Epstein files

You unleash a meaningful prosecution on the antitrust side you put to bed all of these claims by actually prosecuting

My fear is he won't I mean the joke is that in order to distract from the debacle of the Iran war

He's going to have to release some Epstein files

And the other one is it shows Trump taking the Epstein files and putting him in the missiles that we're using

I put some more in here put some more in here

So a majority of Americans believe he went to war for the Epstein files in Israel. That's what a majority of Americans already believe

Iran is using the Epstein files and its global propaganda against the United States

They said this is a war against the Epstein class and they're saying well, we're out in the streets protesting with our people

Where where are your leaders America or Europe? Are they at Epstein Island maybe?

I mean, you know, it's unbelievably effective globally PR wise

So the only way to get around that is not to pretend it's not a problem

Unfortunately and to address it answer it get accountability

I fear they'll go the opposite direction and try to continue to suppress it and censor

And would would that would will anybody ever get this or will the the you know the the establishment to the the donor class the rich donor class

Regardless of what party will they forever keep this this

That lid on this and will we ever get any justice?

I think Democrats have doubled down so deep

that if they have all three branches in 2028

2029

They're going to have to release the rest of those files or then they become the people that are covering up the Epstein files

Now they're the ones that to originate the Epstein cover up under the Biden administration

But they've mostly been able to distance themselves in the public from that

They won't be able to a second time around so the question is the so my guess is somebody's taken some of that

Hillary Clinton bleeds bit special and going through delete delete delete delete delete delete

As much as often as they can

Because otherwise because Democrats are when they come in they're going to have to say

Colley TV wanted to disclose it, but it's all been destroyed

That's my guess is the what the narrative they picked my guess is we never see the real Epstein files

That's that's what I feared all along because there's too many powerful people on again

Above any kind of partisan divide here that's just up in the top which is screws all of us

We'll just have to hope that something can happen it can force that release or that finally some some of these victims

Maybe just take the courage to say all right. We're going to start naming names and bringing the lawsuits

I don't know that's that's easy for me to say I don't live with that

But I think like so many people we want some kind of justice for these heinous crimes that have been committed

No doubt and I think you will see like what we're seeing in Britain a surge of third and independent party interest

That you're going to see new interest in

Maybe we the Republicans and Democrats just can't answer our needs

We've elected now how many presidents since the fall of the Cold War promising us a peace dividend and a peace presidency

And every single one has got us into war at some point every single one wins on keeping us out of war

And every single one gets us into war at some point

It's time to look at independent options third party options new options

That the Republican democratic duopoly is corrupting and killing the constitutional republic

And we got to start looking at other options and alternatives that are peaceful and within the system

Otherwise we get the other kind of reaction. Yes. I don't think any of us really want that. Oh no

No, we don't actually have got a I've got a periodic series on the next American Civil War

We've gotten part six so far and I don't want that to get to a culmination

So one of the reasons we're trying to warn about it to stay away from the violent pack

And I'm a big advocate of what you said about a third path here one way or the other

It's becoming an necessity in a requirement not just a good idea

but

Anyway, listen this has been just a chock full of great information

And we really appreciate you coming on today

This has really been something that we all need to know

We are unintimidated and uncompromised on the truth here and man did you ever live that today? Thank you so much

Oh, yeah, I was glad to be here and glad you're doing the work and

If folks were following your channel

They would be better informed than the president of the United States

Is now this where it was going and it's going and it's likely to go

Yikes, that's a scary thought

Well, anyway, thank you very much and you can follow

Mr. Barnes here at Barnes law llp.com so you can keep up with him

And all the things he's got going do you have like a website or something like that?

People might want to follow if they want to know more

Oh, sure

So the ad Barnes underscore law on x and then viva Barnes law dot locals dot com

We do a wide range of direct contact great

Board community. They have a range of opinions on this war for example

They share it afraid to share it as long as you do it civilly and decently

Um, and the it's such a great community doing a hush wash actually today uh alternative narratives of uh history

The uh which will be on the rots child family uh thought it might be appropriate the number one family mentioned in the Epstein files

That currently somebody's to leading their references to while this war is going on

How interesting is that yeah, well, yeah, well means keep keep keep that light on that

We really appreciate and value what you do thank you very much and we'll look forward to seeing you the next time

Thanks everybody

And we appreciate you guys too

We will we will see you tomorrow because uh this is friday but uh a lot of things going on here

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