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medalist in Australian football hall of famer Luke Hodg. Shallow to your Hodgie. Morning, Jared.

How good Tuesday mornings the leadership prevail again that we've done for the last few years and

I'll tell you what, there's quite a few leadership topics that we've got to go through. Hopefully

we've got enough time but you're right. The first one that we've you've mentioned already is

the Bontan the likes and these guys standing up I saw Petraca first hand in round one but then

you've got the next phase of leadership and it's how to handle a 23-year-old kid who's played 88

games with all this pressure because of a contract and I think that's where you look at St. Kilda.

There's a lot of pressure on Roshi and the coaches to make sure that even though he's got this

big contract and everyone's talking about him and the football that he played last year

was deserving of that contract because St. Kilda needed to sign him. They had the money in the

salary cap that they had to spend on someone so they're most will give it to someone who was

knocking down the door and playing the best football in the competition. All the most exciting

football anyway. So this is a big part for the St. Kilda leaders to really focus in that he's

still a 23-year-old kid not a bloke who's on $2 million. So what did you see when you were watching

on Sunday? If he was 27-28 and he had the flexibility to run around and look if he wants to start

forward and start back or wants to go through the midfield and do it at will whenever you would like

I'm okay with that but at 23 you've still got so much learning that you've got to do and

and although there was highlighted so much on the on the shows last night where he would start

forward and then he'd push down back or they were St. Kilda had limited numbers in the midfield

because he wasn't at a stoppage. Flexibility is great when you get entagged but it can't come

before the team the team structures because so many blokes are looking left to right to make sure

that your team mates are in the right position so you've got full clarity on your role. If you're

looking to your right and a player's not there because he wants to try and take someone forward or

back just to try and get a bit of space that's where your teammates do start to dirty up on your

and I know speaking from experience when we played we had a lot of blokes in our side that had

a little bit of flexibility but it was at the right time if they 90% of time wanted to do their own

thing then tell you what they'll be getting pulled into line straight away and unfortunately with

the price tag players will look at that and go hey and I'm on half what he's on I'm on a quarter

at he's doing but I'm still doing my role on play my role for the team I don't have flexibility to

go and play wherever I want so this is the big thing for St. Kilden it's only early but

when you're 23 you need to understand how to break a tag from half back. Halfback is the hardest

position to break a tag because all the forward has to do is limit your rebound efficiency and then

try and snag a goal yourself if they can keep nice to 15 and the small forward can have six touches

and kick one or two goals guess what that is a win so you've got to learn to break a tag from half

back and then you can move to other spots on the ground and if you're getting there done

and I remember Clarke used to sit across half back and he would come in and be like okay what if

you learn when you've got to stand in a certain position but then they'll go and have their

finger in the back okay against some blocks that won't work so you have to roll around and just

try and stand in front of a key forward to try and limit their impact and make the tag and make

a decision but Clarke I would always make sure that you were trying to come up with situations to

resolve that by yourself before he'd say okay then why don't you go for a run in the midfield

and the third quarter just to try and break the shackles then you don't do it early on and you

don't give it to a young kid because they'll just they'll just want to get the hands on the ball

before the benefit of the team so there's a lot of learning he's still educating himself but

more importantly St. Kielder coaches have to educate him to how to stick with the position and

try and get benefit out of it and then after a while if it's not working then you throw that

flexibility to maybe start half forward and run onto the ball when you see fit but it's going to

be a couple of years of tough times for Nas with all this pressure on him but the most important

thing for him is you've still got to develop him like he's a 23 year old kid who hasn't played

100 games yet not a not a person who's the highest paid player on the AFL because that's brings

enough pressure to the young kid just by that tag and when the games on the line and he's on the

bench what are you thinking watching yeah well there's this is the the flexibility is there's 12

minutes to go you kick a goal if you start to run off this is where people on the bench are saying

unless you're absolutely gassed and you need to come off for a two minute burst you're keeping

him out there if that means you got to sit at full forward and have two minutes by yourself don't

squeeze up the ground just stay in the goal square for two minutes to get the same I guess save the

energy as you would on the bench do that and then you've got 10 minutes to go and show what you're

what your worth is and show what you can do to change your game just like we saw last year

when they played Melbourne when he he took clearance as he pushed forward he took hangers he

kicked goals he turned the game from him won the game that's where he'll understand as he gets older

that you stay on the ground that the the people who can win the game we will stay on the ground you

could imagine if Nick Daicos was running off in the games in the balance guess what the

spells on the bench are saying hey no no Nick you just go and go pluck yourself forward for

a couple minutes and then you go on ball and you change that game for us so it's it's different

doing it for three and a half quarters and having your and making your own calls compared to late

in the game when St Kielder supporters St Kielder coaches and the players needed him on that ground

on the ground on the ground to make sure that he had an impact as we've seen him do a few times

last year for as long as we've run the leadership portfolio Max Gorn has been one of the centerpieces

of it and he was the centerpiece again on Sunday at 34 years of age he looked like he'd lost

nothing yeah you keep looking at Max Gorn well you look at Ruckman over the years that they

shoulder the workload for for a long period of time and all of a sudden you're creeping to your

30s and that body contact that crashing and bashing the jumping into the to the other Ruckman

job obviously they've now changed the rules back to do that but it's a heavy workload especially

he showed her most of this for for 80% of of games he obviously had the year where Grundy came in

and they tried to throw him forward a little bit but he's a person who loves that ownership

and then when push comes to shove he didn't pack down again you look at his last quarter area

10 touches five contested possessions kick the goal three inside four to 50s and you sit back and

go he might be the old dog in the team or on the field but when push comes to shove that's the

blocks that you want because he can will himself to that extra contest he needs he knows that

I need to make a stand here I need to have an impact and he's done it Tom and Tom again so we

should never doubt him but you look at Tom I thought Tom was serviced all against him he had a

red dot crack he used his athleticism at at times and was able to move around the ground

but when when the game's on the line you're always lean towards those experienced guys because

they just know when to step up and and Max he's has done it again the other leader that we've never

doubted is Marcus Bontan-Pelley so he's entering a season for the first time as a 30-year-olds

he's got a lot going on in his life away from 40 we spoke to him a couple of weeks ago at length

about this and he was just so complete in what he did in his second game of the season not just the

trademark stuff but the tackling and the smothering the moment where he ran down the ground and he out

ran Callahan to be able to take that mark in the goal square there's just there's there's always

been something about the bonnets why he is the best player in the competition and I'm absolutely

resolute about that there might be even more about him now well the fact that he's he pushes forward

like obviously when he had that injury last year he came back in he we saw him trying to push forward

and kick more goals it was it was a stage where if the ball's in a 50-50 he realized he's mismatched

on on other midfielder so he would try and take him forward get him mismatched and have a shot on

goal but what teams have to do it it's almost like the the daikos cause don't get beaten by what you

know like if you're gonna let Marcus Bontan-Pelley run around and do whatever he wants whether he wants

to start in the midfield and then get a clearance like there was one of his goals Toby Green started

on him at the back of the stoppage inside forward 50 and he's two meters like the starting point

was really good but as soon as that ball goes up Toby's mindset was I'm going to look at the ball

and try and get this impact not Toby you don't do that in a defensive 50 stoppage against Marcus

Bontan-Pelley who we're all sitting here going how has he won a brown low yet he knows he knows

positions to get to they know where he's standing he's always going to be in the right spot

but that I think that's what the signs of such a good player for such a long period of time we know

what they can do with the ability but they're so reliable to their teammates as well they're always

going to set up right and they know that if they're in trouble they got Bont behind him ready to

feed back and and if you give him Tom and space inside forward 50 he's going to go and kick his

goals once you've got six so far for the year three note three in both games so yeah any teams

that coming up against the dogs if you're going to let Bont run around and do what he wants

unfortunately you're going to see another 30 and three are you giving Scott Pendlebury the

distinguished service award tonight and lifting the suspension or replacing it with a fine when

this happened for Gary Abel it took the tribunal three minutes three minutes to go no no we're

not spending gas yeah after 328 he's at 427 yeah it's accurate right well you look at it and go

did they have to send it to the tribunal I'm like yes 100% they had to send it to the tribunal and

you look back and go Pelley well why he didn't mean to run through it look at his personality

he's played that many games and not being suspended but you got to look at it for the look of the

game there was a contest one person brace the other person didn't he showed a hit his head and then

you look at and go well in the past that has been sent to the tribunal people who've got weeks as we

have on this occasion on this occasion and then the other reason they had to send it is for future

incidents if we've got the same thing happening around 15 and we say it's Scott Pendlebury in

around one so we'll let it go they've got to do the same thing back around 15 so they had to send

it to the tribunal for those two reasons but I reckon they're going to walk in and it'll probably

quicker than the Gary ablet three minute one or they're going to walk in and go even he said the

right things post game as well I was the hit too so my focus on the ball well tick tick well don't

if your focus on the ball then they're taken away that it wasn't deliberate intentional and then

as you can see he I heard him say if he bumps it's a week if he braces it's it's off and he said

well I brace then and we're all going to sit back and go if you've played this many this many

seasons this many games we're getting suspended and been a clean streak they're going to walk

in and go benefit the dad who's going for the ball he was a hit too he braced he didn't bump

accidental collision and that's going to go in his favor so 100% they've got to send it to the

tribunal for future cases like this but walking don't even do your tie up take it off and then off

you go Luke Hodge runs our leadership portfolio we're back in business on a Tuesday with Hodgy

we're talking about the swans without Errol Gordon Damien Hardwick bringing the young

folks in the line and maybe a little bit of Clarko as well it's Sydney Swans membership day

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waitly on SCN obviously never starting from from Saturday night and the shoulder injury that

he's sustained and he'll leave with a surgeon today and have surgery tomorrow so yeah it's a

lengthy time line as well unfortunately so we'll do everything we can to support him and and

getting back as good as you possibly can towards the back end of the year Dean Cox on the absence

of Errol Gordon for the next four months Errol's going to be with us on 360 tonight that was

Dean Cox with Gary and Tim this morning Hodgy how how big an absences Errol Gordon for the swans

well he was the spark in that third quarter against Carlton they couldn't get their hands on

the ball so they threw him down to take a kick in and next he links up three times gets a ball inside

Ford 50 he had seven touches in three bits of play and they all went inside they all went inside

Ford 50 to score he was one of the may I know there was a lot of injuries for the swans last year

with anyone over six foot three six foot four they were decimated with with injuries the big

blocks but he was the he was the linchpin the the run and creativity that he that he shown over

last few years that's an error they missed because of the injuries around him as well but I'm sort

of looking at Sydney and go well if there's a team that needs to fill a spot for a block like that

it's it's it's probably Sydney because you look at a Chad Warner who like they've played him more

as a half forward all of his touches on the weekend against against the Lions were pretty much

from the back of the center square forward so he'd been more of a forward roll this year

he went into 11 center bounces but five of them were in the last quarter when Gordon was injured

so they're sitting here going well yes we need Gordon back getting back round 14-15

give him a good run into the into the finals but they've got a bit a bit of luxury knowing that

Chad Warner who when he's up and about firing how exciting he is that they they can throw him in

in the middle as well and I guess the other one is the heany with the heany hamstring how bad is it

how long will that be but what what we did notice after talking to Dean Cox

pre-opening around was that there's as a workload over this offseason compared to the year before

they've done a amount of work a lot of their majority their main players the senior ones who we

all look out have done a big numbers in the in the preseason so this is just another chance for

these guys to step up and fill the void but for him it's heartbreaking you can see how how

shadow he was on the bench on on the weekend observations of a couple of coaches so Damien Hardwick

and so this is a totally different phase now for the Gold Coast Suns isn't there our

premiership favorites it's a it's a different world yeah well I think their sons and they're

looking at teams going well teams used to go to the suns and say oh we could we could beat them

and done matter how bad we bait I think the sun's in our rocking up the games going doesn't

matter how bad we can play we can beat certain teams and I think that's what dimmer saw on the

weekend you look at half time it's a 62 point lead to west coast and then a couple of these as

young teams do we did it at times at Hawthorne we got rained in I know Richmond and Jolong at times

that as well when they're at their top top of their their game a few things a little start to

sneak in a little bit of Larry football maybe a couple advantages from a free kick inside 4-50

there's some young guys thought they might snag one and get on the scoreboard dimmer's got a big

job and I think he may have spoken to a few of them quite forcefully as we know dimmer can post game

about respecting opposition not getting ahead of yourself because to lose to west coast we all

understand where west coast are at in in their development they're going to be bottomed by a long

way from what we've seen to lose the third quarter by 14 points was a disgrace for for sons

and I think dimmer really let the boys know that post game but I would I hate to see in the match

review with some of the Larry things that they did in that second half so dimmer's gone through

a different situation it's about pumping the boys up since he's been there given him confidence

given him courage to take the game on the next phase of dimmer is making sure that they don't get

ahead of himself because you can sort of see that you're anyone can get you if you're going with

an easy mindset and gold coach alone they didn't lose the game but they learned that in the third quarter

and the undisciplined acts of Mac Andrew who's bringing that into line I just think that's a part

of his development I'm sitting here going as a center half forward and a center half back I want a

physical person who's going to intimidate opposition but at the same time you can't do it the same

as the last one you can't do it before your team you can't give away silly free kicks easy goals

50 meter penalties just because you want to vent get your frustrations out so I love Mac and he's

and he's aggression but you got to control that and I guess that's another phase of his maturity but

also dimmer just sort of saying there's times to do it and there's times not to do it and when

your 50 meters out on the boundary line and then you go one undisciplined 50 meter penalty to give

them a goal yes it's against West Coast but that's about respecting all opponents as well would he

do the same against Brisbane or against Sydney and the like so that's just a next phase of Mac

he does so much right in his game maturity still would have come a little bit when it comes those

undisciplined free kicks all right you were there for that perplexing Carlton performance which

was a win and I know Jacob Weedering was was in your leadership portfolio here I just said about

Mac that I want a center half back or a center half forward who's going to be physical to intimidate

the opposition to least lead and I'm sitting back going look at Jacob Weedering I can see

patty crypts trying his backside or could seem against Sydney he was physical trying to turn the

game gave away few free kicks which is unpatty crypts like I want Jacob Weedering to be a person

down there as a leader if you look at a comparison of other center half backs and how they lead

look Harris Andrews who if they have three or four goals kicked against him he'll run up to

their midfield the Brisbane lines midfield and talk to him about what they need what the

mids are doing he's keeping a vision out from behind of the rights and wrongs of the defenders but

also the mids Jacob doesn't do that Jacob sits in his own little back line he might talk to

his mids there's no intimidation there's a few things there where young guys went and stuck up

for him when he was getting picked on against Sydney and he did absolutely nothing in return so

as a center half back as a vice captain as a leader I hope that he takes this week off the

sit back and go how can I change how can I add a bit more to this Carlton leadership group to

this Carlton side and hopefully we say move it on because we need a full back a center half back

who's intimidating who's leader who's a leader on the outside not just in closed doors and we

want him to to be communicated a little bit more with with the mids and letting them know what they're

doing right and what they're doing wrong just to help that defense all right Hojji we want to flag

there's a few of us who want to flag this with you right Hojji Luke Parker quarterback role I thought

his leadership down there was reminiscent of the great man could Hojji see a bit of himself in

Luke Parker patrolling half back with his leadership aggressive tackling high intercept marking

and ground ball gathers combined beautifully with Caleb Daniel keep an eye on Luke Parker and what

Alistair Clarkson is doing with him and then tell us next week whether that's exactly what he did

with you well but as long as he's got the the voice direction down there to help the young guys

around him and in front of him well that that's the start so what we'll do is we'll keep an eye on it

most weeks and then sort of see how that that part of his game has developed because he's never been

able to go and play that role he's always been mid forward but as a as a guy getting older sitting

across the half-back line showing your leadership definitely helps human also the team all right we'll

see on Thursday night of the G for the swans in the Hawks thanks to good on you Luke Hodge running

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