The MAC Calls out the Big 10 on Behalf of Western Michigan

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3:04and then they get another second tacked on because obviously the Mac knows where the money comes from. The Western Michigan knows where the money comes from. We don't get less money for winning. They could have just won the game and kept the money as well. But they're basically a big revenue driver for you every year. You know, there's some years where two Big Ten teams play Western Michigan. So that's even more exciting. So what you're saying is, is that, hey, we keep our opinions to ourselves, so we keep getting scheduled for $1.5 million. This was the SEC or even, honestly, if this were the Big Ten, two teams in the Big Ten, we would have, we would have temporary restraining orders. This is Cleveland Sports Radio, 92-3, the fan. Morning. Good morning, Kenneth. It's good to talk to you. Good to see you. Did you like me blowing the horn? Like being in your company. Did you like me blowing the horn? No, honestly, I've been in a bad mood ever since you did it. Because you showed up early. So I was out in my truck trying to listen to some audio

4:07and trying to listen to Brear. And like, he comes pulling in. It's five in the morning. And I'm like, what's he, I saw the Jeep come up and like, what's he doing here so early? So there must be problems at home. Um. What are you showing? You know that. What a guy at work start showing up early. Oh, what's happening in there? Got some problems. Anyway, he came around the corner. He just lays on the horn. It's five in the morning. And I'm like, what are you doing? Ken was not laughing. No, I wasn't. Because you know, you threw off the equilibrium. You threw everything off. We always adhere to how you want life to be. And you demand quiet. Adil and stoicism in it just like Tim comes in there. Hey, well, yeah, how you doing? Hey, how you doing? Hey, how you doing? Hey, how you doing? Hey, how you doing? Hey, no, no, no, no, no. And I'm like, there, just stay there. Don't do it.

5:07Keep that energy away. Spat, you open up the door. Oh, yeah. Hey, how you doing? Well, you finally had to be like, hey, buddy. After the show's great, but there's a way that we come in. It can't be. We can't be. Well, he's just like, whoa, like easy. Like morning guy thing. And as loud as I am, and as energetic as I try to be, it is five in the morning. And nobody in this room is in a great mood when they get in here. No. He's in a bad mood. Oh, John's in a bad mood. The worst. Oh, and is actually sometimes pleasant. And everybody's just in a bad mood. And you warm into it. You ease into it. Now Bill, on the other side, he adheres. He adheres. Hey, how you doing? That's it. Morning. Walks by morning. He understands how the game is played. Every now and then you get a, hey, how you doing? That's about it. Maybe on a Friday, but that's it. And well, the other one, I don't know.

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8:11I know. It's I am. You blame him for everything that he has no control over whatsoever. Well, that's where you put the mouth on him. And you're just like, you're shopping for things that you can also get everywhere else. What he does best is he provides you with things that you'd never see anywhere else. Exactly. And that's the value right there. He does. He has it all. And he's got everything. He's got shaving powder down there. I never knew there was such a thing. And then he taught me about it. T-shirts. You can get down there. You have bottle openers down there. Magnum condoms. You can get down there if you need them. They got them. They got them. Yes, I'm thinking of a daily deveto in sunny. All the sins, man. You got all the types of sins. The birthday cards has those two. No, he doesn't anymore. He got rid of them because we weren't buying them. And then they stopped bringing them after COVID. He ain't got them. Anyway, I want to bring this up. So later on today at nine o'clock, we have Dr. John Steinbrecker, who's joining us on the show, who wrote a scary thing. A letter about the decision that was made with the big 10 and said, like, hey, you know

9:12what? We're not down with this. So this is his statement. You ready for the statement you want to hear? Dr. John Steinbrecker. He is the commissioner of the Mac. I didn't say that. No. Oh, I'm sorry. He's the commissioner of the Mid-American Conference. And he wrote, after further study and investigation, this is about the Michigan Western Michigan game. The further study and investigation is now evident that replay protocol was not properly followed in determining whether time remained on the game clock at the conclusion of the Western Michigan versus Michigan football game. The established replay protocol requires that the game clock displayed on the program feed be used in determining whether the time remained instead. The big 10 conference replay crew relied upon the clock feed and better within its replay system as a result. One second was placed back on the game clock. An additional and an additional play was reordered, awarded. This was not a judgment regarding the proper amount of time with the place on the clock. It was an air in the application of the established replay protocol governing this specific end to game timing situation had the protocol been properly followed and the program feed

10:17clock been used. No additional play would have been awarded and Western Michigan would have won the game 12 to 7. As a result, the Min American conference has submitted formal appeals to the NCAA FBS oversight committee and college football playoff. The Macgers requesting that those bodies recognize Western Michigan as the actual winner of the game for purposes of their respective rankings, evaluations and selection deliberations and take such other corrective action as may be within their authority. Finally. Because I disagreed with you yesterday, you were like, ah, not a big deal being made. They're going to take your 1.5 million going on. I'm like, I think other teams big time colleges are going to schedule a directional Michigan to come into town. I think Ohio State would look at and go, that's Michigan's problem, that ain't us. We're going to beat the break soft Western Michigan. I don't care if they won the Mac last year. I just don't think they're going to do that. I'm glad that in the now P6 or G6, which is growing because there's more teams being

11:21left out of the top quality college football conferences and it's going to continue to happen as I'm sure the big 12 will eventually succumb to it in the ACC. If not this year by 2031, we'll absolutely succumb to it is that there's going to be more G6, G7, G8 teams and then there's going to be more that get taken up by the other ones. So the Mac has to fight for the teams. And so John Steinberger had to do something. I mean, you got Northern Illinois, even I brought this up to history. So I'm glad he wrote some. I don't think it's going to make much a damn difference. That's not. But I'm glad I'm glad I stayed at least the racist thing came out last night and says it cannot overturn Michigan. Oh, that's a two-plus, feckless organization of nothing over Western Michigan after the Mac appeals the outcome. But then later in the day, this took another turn. And that's why I can't get enough of this story because all along, the Michigan fans keep pointing to a bunch of a bunch of they keep pointing to a bunch of doctor clocks and they are now experts on everything. When it comes to the time keeping in college football, it's like one of those anytime political

12:25a new political scandal comes out and just an Hoffman in hook will all the clocks around them freaking out. Yeah, every every time something happens, now people become overnight experts on something they never cared about previously. But this is great because Michigan is defending this every step of the way and they're trying to vilify all these people as if they're the aggrieved ones. Even though I said this had they not have been given an extra second would Michigan fans really have been running around saying they were screwed? No, they just would have been mad at underwording for losing. Yeah, they would have been mad at their team, but then they got to still are. They were talking about benching right under what after the stadium. Are they not? Yes, that I was going to say, but they don't seem very mad at their team when they're jumping up and down at midfield. There's some embarrassing. Well, that was unbecoming. There was even more embarrassing video they came after it. The NCAA even after they said, we can't overturn this, which I don't know, they vacate wins all the time. I don't know why they can't overturn it. But after saying they can't overturn this, they did come out and say from this point forward, we are never doing that again.

13:27We are never looking at this other mystery clock. So again, if I hear that and I'm Western Michigan, I'm like, okay, so you're you're validating our argument. You're validating the max argument. Well, nothing stopping Western Michigan from saying they beat Michigan. As we found out with UCF in the bounce house, you can always claim an national championship and you can always claim a contested win. It still says it's one of the things. Whatever. So I find this amazing. I find it fascinating because now it's official. This is where I had a big disagreement with Ken yesterday. He said this wasn't going to stick to Michigan forever. This wasn't going to be and I couldn't disagree more yesterday. And I think now today because that point you might be right on. Well, just because this is gray area and really I'm just it might my beef is with the Michigan fans. They want this to go away. They want this to never be talked about again. And who knows if they just get the doors blown off this weekend against Oklahoma, then who knows? I just think that one second thing is forever going to be a Michigan storyline and them

14:31rushing the field after. And now the NCAA saying we'll never do what we did during that game again with a clock. I just love it. It couldn't get any better. I actually agree with you. And there's a reason for it is that what what Dr. Steinbrenker did and we're going to have him on coming up at nine o'clock again. He's going to join us live on the phone. We'll talk about that is that this is going to have actual ramifications because there's committee that meets about the playoff. And I don't think that Michigan is a playoff team. And I don't think that any I don't think I'm breaking ground. I don't think anybody thinks they're a playoff team. And I'd be surprised. I know they have Oklahoma at home, but they just don't seem to be that great this year. All right. Already. And there seems to be some holes. But if it comes down to it and it comes down to like one loss or two losses or something, I think Auburn Brear specified this in so many ways yesterday. I want you to listen to this answer with that Auburn Brear game. Now this is an Ohio State alum famously. But here's what Auburn Brear said about the about maybe the the win being worse for Michigan.

15:36And I hate the idea of overturning the result. However, it is them. The best part about this for me. I was a little bit like damn, I kind of like root for my question. Michigan there at the end of that game. Then me and like a couple of my textbooks decided this is actually better. Bluesing games just losing game. But this is like really embarrassing. The reaction that the field storming the mean mugging by underwood. I almost feel it's more embarrassing what happened in the aftermath. The fact everybody's saying things like from the school that brought you a title you don't recognize. Here's a win you don't recognize. Is this better? I mean, we remember the Appalachian State game for how many years now? You know what I mean? Oh, and if they overturned this result, we would remember this one even more. There's no home against huge for them. It becomes even bigger like it. They go out there and just get there. You know what kicked in. Then like then what? I like it because then it becomes an argument. Now for the teams that plan the need that win as a quality win if they keep losing or if they actually lose, I had talked about them like they did lose. Which they really probably should have. But if they lose...

16:38Hey, our rides almost here. Are you ready? Just grabbing my shoes. That's what you said 10 minutes ago. I just wrapped the video call, uploading this giant file on my tablet, looking at my watch group and Nana's with the group chat, and of course still lining up tonight's playlist on my phone. All at once? Yep, story of my life. That's why I switched to T-Mobile. They have the fastest 5G network. Okay, multi-tasker. I see you. Honestly, I never imagined I could do all this at once. It's awesome. Say no more, I'm totally switching. My post is taking way too long to upload. That's a sign you've got to get T-Mobile. So many reasons to join T-Mobile. Find yours at T-Mobile.com. Fastest based on analysis by Uglospeed Distant Intelligence, the data of national speed score results in cooperating 5G download and upload speeds for the first half of 2026.

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19:47but they did win the Mac last year. They did. What if they went out? They have Boise State. What if they went out? What does their case, what does the committee do? Then they're team 12. Already a total of seven AP voters have Western Michigan ahead of Michigan. You're going to put, so I love that so much, that this is a great thing. Seven voters have already said we are not acknowledging that Michigan is a better football team based on a result. And Jeff Sagan, we had to explain to young John who Jeff Sagan was because back in the age, Jeff Sagan mattered. Believe it or not, he was one of the pollsters in the BCS that mattered. And even before that, his rankings were the kind of famous in the college football world. He's an official NCAA recognized national championship selector still. He chose to recognize Western Michigan's 12, seven win over Michigan in his ratings this season. So he's not accepting. Well, that's the beauty of the personal opinion. And that's the beauty of a vote.

20:48Like they went from one vote. They went from one vote and the others receiving votes and something we'll probably bring up again later to 12 votes. So there are definitely people like now that's BS. That's the fun of college football. That's the fun of the old style. Exactly. And I know they said they can't overturn it. You said, they can vacate wins. They can vacate wins, but they didn't just give those wins to the other team. I don't believe. No, like the only thing I've ever seen overturned and turned into a forfeit is illegal players. And I don't know what's the only, well, the only team that apparently can use illegal players anymore that can get caught using illegal players anymore is LSU and Akron. Maybe, maybe. Two, two, two, two vaunted programs in college football, LSU and Akron, apparently using illegal players. Okay. That's like the only way that you can actually overturn something. It does provide a precedent here for, well, again, the NCAA is saying they will never do what they did again. So if you're Western Michigan, you're sitting there going, well, then just give us the win.

21:48There should have never been a second. You're admitting there should have never been a second. But I think in the heads and hearts of the voters, they have been given the win. It just doesn't say so on paper. What they need to do, one more Hail Mary, best of three. You get one more. The first one, not so good. The second one, good, but shouldn't happen. All right. Let's do a third. All agree. Let's do a third and whoever gets it with it. It's a further worst idea. Ford better, but I've certainly heard worse. So coming up at nine o'clock, I want Dr. John Steinbrecker's words on this, Zach Jackson going to join us at 720 and good for Baker. And you know what? Good for Brown's fans. I mean that sincerely. Ken Carmine, Anthony Lime, Alive in the fan. Hey, I ride almost here. Are you ready? Just grabbing my shoes. That's what you said 10 minutes ago. I just wrapped a video call, uploading this giant file on my tablet, looking at my watch group of Nana's with the group chat, and of course, still lining up tonight's playlist on my phone. All at once? Yep. Story of my life. That's why I switched to T-Mobile. They have the fastest 5G network.

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