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Now that Ditty has been arrested and he's been denied bail,
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it's probably a good time to talk about the dump
0:40
that he's going to be calling home for the foreseeable future.
0:44
And that dump is the MDC.
0:46
Now, you're familiar with the MDC
0:49
if you've been listening to this podcast,
0:50
considering Glaine Maxwell was at the MDC,
0:54
and there's no doubt the place is a dump.
0:56
And it's a big problem that's plaguing
0:58
the federal prison system.
1:00
Considering how much money is dumped on the BOP,
1:04
you would think that they'd fix some of these problems.
1:06
But we've had OIG report after OIG report,
1:10
telling us how bad the situation is at these lockups
1:13
and nothing's ever done about it.
1:14
So Ditty's in for a big surprise,
1:16
considering how different this whole entire experience
1:19
is going to be from the experiences used to.
1:23
See guys like Ditty, they never think they're gonna go to jail.
1:25
They never think they're gonna end up in prison.
1:27
So they do whatever it is they wanna do
1:29
because they have a bunch of money.
1:31
They have people sign NDAs.
1:33
And then from there, they're just able to be
1:35
as big of a scumbag as they wanna be.
1:38
And they know that people aren't going to break that NDA
1:41
because of the financial ruin that comes with it.
1:43
So he knows that he hasn't buy the short hairs, right?
1:46
And once he has you buy the short hairs,
1:48
he's gonna coerce you, he's gonna threaten you,
1:50
and he's gonna make you do what he wants you to do.
1:53
At least according to the federal government,
1:55
and because of all of that,
1:57
and because of alleged witness tampering,
1:59
the judge decided that he's not getting bail.
2:02
And that was smacked into stone
2:04
after he was denied his second attempt.
2:07
So Ditty's gonna have to spend his time at MDC
2:10
as he prepares for this trial.
2:12
And I'm gonna go on the record now
2:13
and predict that he has a litany of complaints
2:16
about the jail and about the conditions
2:19
that he's forced to live in.
2:20
And my answer to that is, well,
2:23
if you don't wanna be living in squalid conditions,
2:26
if you don't wanna go and find yourself at the MDC,
2:29
don't diddle people.
2:31
Today's article is from NBC News and the headline.
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Sean Combs new home,
2:36
a notorious federal jail has a way of breaking people,
2:40
lawyers say, the situation at the Metropolitan Detention Center,
2:44
known as MDC, has gotten so bad that judges
2:47
have refused to send certain non-violent inmates there.
2:50
And for those of you who have listened to the podcast
2:52
for a prolonged period of time,
2:55
you know that I'm all for prison reform.
2:57
I think the prison system's absolutely disgusting.
3:00
I think it's garbage, but guess what?
3:04
Did he shouldn't be getting any special favors?
3:06
Just like Elaine Maxwell
3:07
shouldn't have gotten any special favors.
3:09
Just like my loved ones or your loved ones,
3:12
if they go to prison, they won't be getting special favors.
3:15
But as far as the prison system
3:17
and how screwed up it is, there's no doubt
3:19
it needs to be fixed and it needs to be fixed soon.
3:22
This article was authored by Rich Shapiro.
3:26
Sean Diddy Combs is used to living
3:28
in a multi-million dollar mansions.
3:30
His new home is a notorious federal jail in New York City,
3:33
known for extreme violence and abominable medical care.
3:37
The Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn
3:39
was the scene of two fatal stabings
3:41
in two months over the summer.
3:43
And in April, MS-13 gang members stabbed an inmate
3:46
44 times in a shocking attack that was caught on camera.
3:50
I don't know who needs to hear this,
3:51
but jail's not fun, jail's not safe,
3:54
and it's not a place anybody should want to end up.
3:57
The victim was one of the lucky ones.
4:01
The situation at the Metropolitan Detention Center,
4:03
known as MDC, has gotten so bad
4:06
that judges have refused to send certain
4:08
non-violent inmates there.
4:10
I mean, you can't blame them, right?
4:12
If you're a non-violent inmate,
4:13
you shouldn't go to a place filled with violence.
4:16
You should be put on a yard where people are there
4:18
for the same crimes you committed,
4:19
blue collar, whatever it might be.
4:22
It's always wild to me when you throw somebody
4:24
in a cell who has, I don't know,
4:27
DUI charges or something like that with a murderer?
4:32
Probably not a good idea.
4:34
Talk about people getting extorted,
4:35
people being intimidated.
4:37
Certainly doesn't sound like an enjoyable way
4:42
US District Judge Gary Brown wrote in a decision last month,
4:45
blasting the conditions at the facility,
4:47
along with uncontrolled violence.
4:50
The Detention Center has housed a number
4:52
of high-profile inmates in recent years,
4:54
including Sam Bankman-Freed, R. Kelly, and Golan Maxwell.
4:58
They are kept in a segregated unit
5:00
outside of the general population.
5:02
Still, the conditions are horrid across the facility,
5:06
according to interviews with more than half a dozen lawyers
5:09
and review of court documents.
5:11
I have a client who spent 25 years in federal prison,
5:14
somewhere else, and he's like,
5:15
get me the hell out of the MDC.
5:17
Defense lawyer Xavier Donaldson said,
5:20
it has a way of breaking people.
5:22
And I actually have a friend who did some time there,
5:25
and they said the same thing.
5:26
The place is just an absolute gulag.
5:29
And of all the places that they serve time,
5:31
and they serve time in plenty of places,
5:34
MDC was the most miserable of all of them.
5:37
A judge on Tuesday ordered Combs,
5:39
who has been charged with sex trafficking and racketeering
5:41
to be held without bail.
5:43
Combs lawyers appealed, but the ruling was upheld Wednesday.
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That means he's likely to remain at the MDC
5:49
until he goes to trial.
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Better get comfortable, homie?
5:52
You better get comfortable,
5:53
because you're not going anywhere.
5:55
The court has made its decision.
5:57
Your bell has been denied.
5:58
All your billions mean nothing.
6:02
The facility came under the spotlight
6:04
in the winter of 2019,
6:06
one of power outage left inmates
6:07
without lighter heat for a full week
6:09
during a brutal cold snap.
6:11
Conditions for the detainees
6:13
continued to deteriorate during the COVID-19 pandemic
6:16
when they were subjected to 24 hour lockdowns.
6:20
In 2021, the Justice Department
6:22
shut down the city's other federal jail,
6:25
the Metropolitan Correctional Center,
6:27
two years after disgraced financier, pedophile,
6:29
Jeffrey Epstein's death by suicide, alleged suicide.
6:33
I love how they just say, oh yeah, it was suicide.
6:35
The same people who want to question all kinds of things
6:39
have no desire to question what happened
6:41
to Jeffrey Epstein in that jail cell?
6:43
Why, because Bill Barr told you not to?
6:46
The day I take Bill Barr and his word
6:48
as the arbiter of truth is the day
6:50
that I jump off the George Washington bridge
6:53
wearing a my little pony costume.
6:55
With the most violent federal offenders in New York
6:57
now housed in the same facility
6:59
and official struggling to hire enough corrections officers,
7:02
the MDC has only become more dangerous
7:05
according to defense lawyers
7:07
and the head of the corrections officer's union.
7:10
The agency as a whole is fell to assist MDC Brooklyn
7:13
with the staffing crisis, hence allowing MDC Brooklyn to fail.
7:17
The union head, Rhonda Barnwell, wrote in a memo
7:19
to Bureau of Prisons Officials in June of 2023.
7:23
What are you waiting for?
7:24
Another loss of inmate life?
7:26
Well, the truth is the powers that be
7:28
don't really care about any of that.
7:30
What do they care if people die?
7:31
Her questions proved prophetic.
7:34
First came the stabbing on April 27th,
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which was caught on surveillance cameras.
7:38
The victim was sitting alone at a table
7:40
when a man sneaked up behind them
7:42
and pulled out a shib from his waistband.
7:44
The man who prosecutors identified as an MS-13 gang member
7:49
stabbed the victim multiple times
7:51
to other alleged MS-13 members pulled out homemade knives
7:54
and joined in the attack,
7:56
according to surveillance video obtained by NBC News.
8:00
It went on for about 37 seconds
8:02
until a corrections officer showed up
8:04
in the housing unit causing the attackers to flee.
8:07
The unidentified victim sustained 44 stab wounds
8:10
to his back chest, abdomen, right arm and legs,
8:13
according to federal prosecutors.
8:15
Two shibs were recovered,
8:16
one 10 1-2,5 inches, in length,
8:18
the other 5 1-2 inches long.
8:21
The lead attacker was identified as Louise Revis,
8:24
who was serving a 40-year sentence
8:25
for a host of gang-related crimes,
8:27
including nearly decapitating a 16 year old boy
8:30
in Queens, New York.
8:32
Hello, Vigai, this dude, huh?
8:34
Let me go ahead and try to depopitate
8:36
16-year-old boy, scumbags son of a bitch.
8:40
The stabbing marked the start of a spate of deadly violence.
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On June 7th, another inmate, Yuri L. White, was fatally stabbed in the neck at the MDC,
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according to the Bureau of Prisons and the Chief Medical Examiner's office.
8:53
Less than six weeks later, Edwin Cordero, 36, was stabbed by another inmate.
8:58
He died July 17th of a stab wound to the chest, according to the medical examiner.
9:03
And we're not even talking about a prison, bro, we're talking about a lock-up.
9:06
Imagine what's going on on these prison yards?
9:09
Mr. Cordero was a victim of MDC Brooklyn's deplorable conditions, which are fueled by
9:14
chronic overcrowding and understaffing, said his lawyer, Andrew Dalek.
9:19
Until the federal government gets its act together to make the conditions at MDC Brooklyn
9:23
more humane and secure, the solution is simple.
9:26
Far fewer people should be detained there a period.
9:29
A spokesman said the Bureau of Prisons take seriously addressing the staffing and other
9:33
challenges at MDC Brooklyn.
9:36
That is why earlier this year, the director appointed an urgent action team to take a holistic
9:41
look at the challenges at MDC Brooklyn, the spokesman added.
9:46
The team's work is ongoing, but it has already increased permanent staffing at the institution,
9:51
including COs and medical staff, addressed over 700 background, backlogged maintenance
9:56
requests, and applied a continued focus on the issues raised in two recent judicial decisions.
10:03
A series of cases of alleged medical neglect have drawn the eye of judges over the past year.
10:09
And look, basic medical care for inmates is something that we should be providing, right?
10:13
I mean, come on, but in these lock-ups, a lot of times, that's not even something that
10:18
they even care about.
10:19
An inmate, Terrence Wise, was found to have a mass in his chest in February, but he wasn't
10:24
told of the mass or provided any medical care for two months, even after he started coughing
10:29
out blood, according to court records.
10:32
He was eventually sent in April to a hospital where he learned the cancerous mass had nearly
10:37
doubled in size, according to court documents, and I don't know how anyone could be okay
10:41
with that, that's absolutely ridiculous, what's the point in doing that?
10:46
Let this man know that he's sick, let him go get treatment, and be done with it.
10:49
In another case, an inmate endured hours of extreme pain, with MDC staff ignoring
10:54
his cries for help, after his appendix burst in April.
10:58
He was then forced to recover from surgery without pain medication, according to court
11:03
This is not an anomaly, US District Judge Lachon DRC, all set at a hearing for the inmate,
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Jonathan Goldborne, in May, according to the New York Daily News.
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I'm tired of hearing the defendants that are held at the MDC are not being provided
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A statute in the federal court system requires defendants who are out on bail to be
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remanded to jail after they were convicted, but in January, US District Judge Jesse
11:45
Furman went so far to cite the conditions at MDC as an exceptional circumstance that
11:50
allowed him to leave a defendant on house arrest ahead of him imposing a sentence.
11:55
And look, as long as you're not violent, I don't have a problem with that.
11:59
If you're violent, I don't give a shit.
12:01
You should be thrown right into this hellhole, and guess what, you're gonna have to deal
12:05
with it and navigate it for yourself.
12:07
So that's where I'm at with Diddy, just like I was with Maxwell, and just like I was
12:11
with Epstein, anyone who's committing violent crime of any sort of nature, especially
12:15
when it comes to a sexual nature, is a threat to everybody.
12:20
So they need to be locked up, pretty simple to me.
12:23
Furman cited the facility's dreadful conditions, and said it has been found to be egregiously
12:28
slow and providing necessary medical and mental health treatment to inmates.
12:32
To justify his decision, not to send a man convicted of drug trafficking to the MDC.
12:37
Judge Brown offered an even more scathing assessment of the Brooklyn facility in his
12:42
decision last month, which he vowed to place a convicted fraudster on house arrest if the
12:46
man were to be placed at the MDC to serve his nine-month sentence.
12:51
Brown described the conditions as dangerous and barbaric.
12:54
He also noted that each of the five months preceding his opinion was marred by instances
12:59
of catastrophic violence at MDC, including two apparent homicides, two gruesome stabbings,
13:04
and an assault so severe that it resulted in a fractured eye socket for the victim.
13:10
Now Diddy is going to be segregated, but look, there's always a chance something can
13:14
We saw what happened with Epstein, so hopefully they got their shit together, which I am
13:18
not confident of, but hopefully they have it together enough that they keep him in segregation
13:24
and keep him under 24-hour surveillance, the same way they did with Glend Maxwell.
13:28
You're going to have to do the same thing here with Diddy.
13:31
The activities precipitating these attacks are nearly as unthinkable and terrifying as
13:36
the ensuing injuries.
13:38
Drug debt collection, fights over illegal narcotics, resisting an organized gang robbery.
13:44
Gang disputes and as yet unidentified brawls he added in his written opinion, well here's
13:48
an idea, don't gamble while you're in jail, mind your business, do your time, and don't
13:53
let the time do you.
13:55
Too many people get caught up in this bullshit, oh let me go gamble, let me get some drugs,
13:59
let me get involved in gang politics, probably not the best idea, and when it comes to Diddy
14:05
I highly doubt any of that's going to occur while he's at MDC, now when he gets sent
14:09
up the river upstate, who knows what's going to happen, but for now he's going to be segregated.
14:15
The lawyer for defendant Daniel Kalluchi prays brown.
14:19
He asked a lot of questions, did a lot of research, and satisfied himself that the place is
14:23
a hellhole, said the lawyer Richard Kestinbaum, and look there's no doubt that this place
14:27
is a shit hole, 1000% so it's going to be interesting to see Diddy and his team try
14:33
and navigate all of this, and my guess is we're going to hear a lot of complaints coming
14:36
from Diddy and his team, just like we heard from Galein Maxwell, and whenever you have somebody
14:41
who has high profile lawyers, there's a lot of that going on, especially when you have
14:47
somebody who is up against it and doesn't have the evidence on their side, right?
14:52
Because at that point we all know it becomes a game of loopholes and technicalities, so it's
14:57
going to be real interesting to see how this all breaks down and how his lawyers decide
15:01
they're going to attack this facility and the conditions that he's living in.
15:05
But if history is any guide, they're not going to be successful trying to attack this
15:10
facility and trying to attack how much of a shit hole that it is.
15:14
But I really don't think it's going to work out for them.
15:17
We all know how the court loves precedent and look at the precedent that's already been
15:20
said with Epstein with Maxwell with our Kelly.
15:23
Then you add to that that the bell got denied twice, Diddy better get comfortable because
15:28
he's not going anywhere for quite some time.
15:31
Alright folks, that's going to do it for this one.
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What's up everyone and welcome back to the program.
15:42
Now that the indictment for Sean Diddy's combs has been unsealed, we're finally getting
15:47
a look at the charges that the government is bringing against Diddy and all of those
15:52
charges that he's been slapped with come with mandatory sentences.
15:56
And it's not something that a lot of people are talking about because obviously the 500
16:01
pound gorilla in the room is the Rico charges, but all this other stuff is bad news for
16:07
And one thing that's really going to come back and bite him in the ass and probably
16:11
cause enhancers to kick in are those guns that have obliterated serial numbers.
16:17
You can't run around with firearms with obliterated serial numbers.
16:21
That's a 10 year stint right there just on the gun.
16:24
So this dude's looking at serious time folks and he's in serious jeopardy of going to
16:29
prison for the rest of his life.
16:32
Today we have an article from Newsweek and the headline, Sean Combs case compared to
16:37
Arkelly, Jeffrey Epstein and Diddy is screwed.
16:40
This article was authored by Jenna Sundell.
16:44
Well I certainly can't disagree with the Diddy is screwed portion and I think that if
16:48
we're going to compare what's going on with Diddy to anyone, I think that are Kelly's
16:52
probably the right way to go.
16:54
That's how this is going to be prosecuted.
16:56
Am I guess is that's the blueprint that they're going to use remember this is the same
17:00
office that went after our Kelly as well.
17:02
So I think that there are similarities obviously between the criminal enterprises of Diddy
17:08
and Jeffrey Epstein, but we have to remember that Jeffrey Epstein and what he was doing
17:12
was on an international level.
17:14
He was bringing women in from Eastern Europe.
17:17
He was bringing women in from God knows where and these women were coming here and being
17:21
put up at a building on East 66 street Manhattan, all with the promise of a lucrative modeling
17:27
career waiting for them in the United States, but that never materialized instead they were
17:32
sent out to go to different meetings with people to try and collect compromise.
17:37
So while there are similarities, there's no doubt they're both criminal enterprises.
17:41
They're both based on human trafficking.
17:43
There are also some serious differences when it comes to Epstein and Diddy.
17:49
And I think in my opinion anyway, the more apt description, the more apt comparison would
17:56
And I think that's what the prosecutors are going to do.
17:58
When you look at the charges that they've hit Diddy with, I think they're going to use
18:02
the blueprint that they built during that our Kelly prosecution, especially considering
18:07
the success they had with it, right?
18:10
They were able to nail them and send them to prison for the rest of his life with that
18:14
So I don't see them deviating from that course and going a different way.
18:18
I think they're going to pursue Diddy the same exact way they did our Kelly.
18:22
And I think when all is said and done, we're going to have the same result legal experts
18:26
are weighing in on disgraced rapper and music producer Sean Diddy Combs indictment on charges
18:31
of sex trafficking and racketeering.
18:34
Combs 54 pleaded not guilty to the charges on Tuesday.
18:38
The indictment alleges a criminal enterprise operating over a series of several years
18:43
that involves coercing individuals to participate in various sexual acts.
18:47
So one thing that we have to take from that is that them saying it's a criminal enterprise.
18:52
There was definitely other people involved.
18:54
So it's going to be real interesting to see who else gets indicted, who was around Diddy
18:59
and who was working with him in forum.
19:01
As opposed to the people who don't get indicted because those people have probably flipped,
19:06
The way to get yourself out of trouble here is to turn on whoever the boss is.
19:11
And according to the government, the boss in this situation was Diddy.
19:16
Neyama Rockmoni, former federal prosecutor and president of West Coast trial lawyers
19:22
The big takeaways are obviously these are very serious charges.
19:26
Everyone talks about the racketeering and how there's potential life sentence.
19:30
But more importantly, some of these charges carry mandatory minimum sentences in prison.
19:35
And that's what I was saying earlier, there's a lot in this indictment that's bad news
19:40
And I think that the guns are really going to come back to bite them.
19:43
I talked a little bit about this on Twitter last night.
19:46
And I think that with the mandatory sentences that you see with these other charges, I think
19:52
that Diddy is in gigantic trouble.
19:55
And if things go the way that the prosecution thinks they're going to go, Diddy is going
19:59
to end up going a prison for the rest of his life, just like our Kelly, Kathy Fleming,
20:04
a principal at the office of Kerman litigation practice group, also emphasized the severity
20:10
of the charges to Newsweek.
20:12
They have alleged very serious crimes in a federal court alleging issues related to sex
20:17
trafficking, meaning misusing the victims.
20:20
And there is serious time consequences if someone is convicted of this Fleming said
20:25
Yeah, no doubt about it.
20:27
And we haven't even talked about the man act or anything else yet.
20:31
And there's no way that this is the last iteration of this indictment is going to be
20:37
They're going to add more to it.
20:38
It's just a matter of time.
20:40
Tray level and entertainment and civil attorney spoke to Newsweek about the similarities between
20:44
our Kelly sex trafficking case and Combs case.
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And I think this is the most important comparison.
20:50
I know a lot of people want to compare to Epstein and I understand why, right?
20:56
Epstein was one of the most disgusting vile people in the history of the world.
20:59
And then you look at what Diddy was up to, and it's very similar.
21:03
But when you really look at it, it's not the same.
21:06
They weren't up to the same thing.
21:07
It wasn't international.
21:09
It wasn't for a compromise.
21:10
So there are a lot of differences.
21:13
Does that make what Diddy was doing any less heinous or disgusting than what Epstein was
21:18
Of course not, especially to the people who were affected by it.
21:22
So I'm not trying to say one's worse than the other.
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I'm just saying that they're different.
21:26
And for me, I think the better comparison is the R Kelly case.
21:30
Now that doesn't mean that there aren't similarities.
21:32
That doesn't mean that we shouldn't run them side by side.
21:36
But I think that when all is said and done, and we see the way that this gets prosecuted,
21:41
and we see the evidence that's brought forward, it's going to resemble the R Kelly case
21:45
much closer than it did the Epstein or Maxwell case.
21:49
R Kelly and now Diddy are representatives of high level, famous and in this case, in
21:54
the music world, moguls, who have chosen to live a lifestyle, which the authorities question
21:59
is illegal in many respects, level said.
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And look, we all know that these depraved ass rich people live a different way than we
22:07
They're up to a bunch of wild shit and they don't get off the way we do.
22:11
When you're a billionaire, you don't get off the same way the working man does.
22:14
I know that if I go to the casino and I blow a couple of hundred bucks, that's exhilarating,
22:22
You got a chance to maybe win a couple of bucks, whatever.
22:24
Do you think that gets Diddy off?
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Of course it doesn't.
22:27
For Diddy, it's something completely different, and that is something that he certainly had
22:32
in common with Epstein.
22:33
Once you get to this level, the depravity just increases, and it seems like all of these
22:38
people that roll around in this so-called elite society are up to the same bullshit.
22:43
He said that both cases send a message about law and power.
22:48
The government wants to make a statement that says no matter who you are, how much money
22:51
you have, how powerful you are, we're not going
22:54
to let you get away with stuff like this, level said.
22:57
Level also explained what has caused the shift in prosecuting these cases that have been
23:02
ongoing for many years.
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I think it was triggered by the MeToo movement, when the MeToo movement happened, and it
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cast this light on the dark world of the entertainment industry, level said, rock money
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drew comparisons between Combs case and the sex trafficking case against Jeffrey Epstein.
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Arkelli didn't have a whole lot of rich and famous people participate in acts with him,
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but Didi reportedly did, and we know Epstein did.
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At least according to some of the evidence, even though a lot of those people haven't
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been prosecuted, well that much is certainly true.
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And I will say that the similarities between Epstein and Didi certainly have to do with
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the famous people that they were appalling around with.
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There's zero doubt that Didi had some powerful friends.
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But there's levels to this, right?
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It's one thing to have powerful friends, it's another thing to be an intelligence asset.
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And Didi, most certainly in my opinion, was not that.
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Was he a depraved sick bastard?
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Did he have a lot of high placed friends who are very powerful in the music industry
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and in business, most certainly.
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And there's no doubt that a lot of those people were attending these parties.
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Does that mean they were taking part in all this?
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I haven't seen any video.
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I haven't heard anybody come out and talk about who else might have participated.
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But it's certainly something that's on the table, and I'm not going to say it didn't
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We'll have to wait and see how much more evidence makes itself available to us.
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As this whole process continues to evolve, but I would say that there's a good possibility
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that other famous people are going to find themselves caught up in this.
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Rockmani also raised the possibility of other individuals being implicated in Diddy's
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alleged criminal scheme.
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Anyone who participated in this X-X should be really worried.
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Rockmani said, there's a lot of rumors down here in L.A.
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I live a mile away from Diddy.
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There are a lot of rumors that a lot of other celebrities participated in these X.
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I would certainly be worried if I were them because they could easily be charged, especially
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if there's video evidence.
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If you're on video and you're over at Diddy's diddling somebody, you're going to be in big
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The question is how many of these people were participating.
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So what we're going to do around these parts is we're going to take the same approach that
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we did with Epstein and we're going to look at all the evidence and we'll go from there
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because there's going to be a lot of disinformation.
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There's going to be a lot of BS surrounding what's going on with Diddy, what's going down
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with Diddy and who he might have been associated with.
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So we're going to take the same approach that we did with Epstein as we work our way through
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Fleming describes some of the difficulties the defense will face if Diddy does go to trial.
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You have to get a jury who says they're fair and impartial, which for the defense is
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a challenge because a lot of people believe if you're charged you must be guilty.
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Fleming said, that's an unfair concept and they shouldn't do that.
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Everyone's presumed innocent and less and until the government proves its case beyond
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a reasonable doubt.
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He said the media coverage could also oppose a challenge for the defense.
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They also have a problem of pre trial publicity that this is a big story and a lot of people
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are writing about it and there's always a concern that potential jurors will read about
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it, make up their minds before they hear the evidence in the courtroom as opposed to what
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they read about it in the newspapers and particularly the internet because the internet is not known
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for being accurate in lots of respects.
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Fleming said, all but the media is.
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The media has been lying to us for how long and all of a sudden the media should be the
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arbiter of truth still.
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Sorry, I don't buy that.
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I don't buy that for a second and my guess is most of you listening to this podcast don't
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Level said that the sheer amount of evidence in the case can also oppose some difficulties.
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I would think that that's the most important thing, the evidence in the case and the evidence
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here seems to be pretty overwhelming.
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And you have what prosecutors said is up to 50 witnesses and victims and you have video
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evidence and physical evidence they got from the houses and if indeed it corroborates
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each other, that's very compelling level said.
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Prosecutors will also face some struggles as they argue their case according to Fleming.
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They've got to convince all 12 jurors that the person they've charged is guilty beyond
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a reasonable doubt on all the elements of the crime Fleming said and they also have the
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challenge of they've got a very famous defendant and that makes it highly watch proceeding.
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Well that's true, but guess what?
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The evidence is what the evidence is.
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And for me that's the most important thing.
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All the salacious bullshit, all the nonsense, that's fine and well.
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People are going to engage in that.
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But me, I'm trying to get to the meat and potatoes.
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What are the actual charges?
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What do they mean and who's involved?
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And then from there, well we can see where the salaciousness takes us.
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Having spoke about our own experiences being part of high profile cases, there are differences.
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The first is that the press is out there and they do a lot of investigative work which
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can either help or hurt depending on what the facts are Fleming said.
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Another part of it is that there's a lot of press in the courtroom.
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People in the courtroom at trials including generally the judge as well as the participants
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behave differently.
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They're conscious of the press being in the room.
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Well we have an open system here in America so they better get used to it.
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Officers must also face off against someone who can afford a lot of resources.
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Having a lot of resources can help a defendant significantly because they can afford the
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hire not only the best lawyers but they can afford the hire investigators and find out
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ways that they can help to attack the government's case at trial Fleming said.
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Witnesses called in the case could also feel worried about facing the defendant according
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They may be afraid of him and he may intimidate the witnesses Rock Monty said.
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While fame can often impact high-profile cases, level does not think that will benefit
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I would think that based on the allegations and how serious they are, I don't really
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think his celebrity is going to help him, level said and I don't think it's going
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I think that Diddy's cooked and I think right now we're just at the point where we're
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learning how cooked he is, right?
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Is he going to be well done or is he going to maybe escape with some lesser burns if
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But one thing's for damn sure.
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There's no way that he's just walking away from this unless of course he pleases guilty
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but besides that, this is going to trial and we're going to be following long every step
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of the way as it makes its way through the system and eventually into the courtroom.
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