The Megyn Kelly Show - Daring Rescue Mission, Trump's MAJOR Warning to Iran, and a Very Special Makeover, with Emily Jashinsky | Ep. 1289

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Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to the Megan Kelly show. Oh, we have a lot, a lot

to bring to you today. What a variety too. First of all, I hope everyone had a wonderful

and relaxing Easter Sunday and belated happy Passover to our Jewish friends. Can I tell

you something crazy happened in our family at Easter Mass yesterday? We went the five

of us and we went to the 9 am mass and we got there early because we knew that it would

be, you know, the, you know, there are a lot of people, a lot of Catholics only go on

on Christmas in Easter. We are not five of them. We go every week, but we knew that it was

going to be extra crowded. So we got there about 15 minutes in advance. I thought that

was going to be enough to get a seat, wrong, wrong. We did not get a seat. Even though

we were 15 minutes early, which seems like a lot to me. Anyway, we didn't get a seat.

So we wound up standing in the aisle, which was toward the front of the church. We didn't

stand in the way back as, you know, we were close enough that we were, we were almost

seated. Anyway, so the five of us were lined up along the side of the church wall right

by a window and to the side of the pews and to the other parishioners. And we made it

all the way through to the homily. And during the homily, the way we were standing, it

was Yates, our eldest, who's 16, next to him, Doug, next to him, thatcher, who's 12,

then me, then Yardley, behind me, as you're looking at the front of the church. And as

we get to the homily, the priest was giving a very nice homily. It was, of course, obviously

it was about the resurrection, but it was more than that. It was like apologetics. It

was all about the proof. How do we know Jesus was resurrected? What is the actual hardcore

proof of it? And as you may know, as you, because you listen to this show, I've been very,

very into that ever since Charlie died. And I've been reading everything I can get my hands

on to educate me on it. And so I was like, Oh, this is right in my wheelhouse. I was

very into it. And in the middle of the homily, my daughter, Yardley, who's 14 for another

week or so, I said, Mom, tell thatcher and Yates to bend their knees. And I didn't know what

she was saying that for. I figured, you know, it's just to stay comfortable or whatever,

but I was like, honey, listen to this. This is important, right? Because it was right in

the middle of the homily. Well, within like a minute or so, the priest ended the homily.

And thatcher, who's right in front of me, my 12 year old turns around and said, Mom, I

feel nauseous. I'm like, Uh oh. So I'm like, okay, let's, let's go, let's go outside.

So I told my husband and my older two, we're going to step outside for a bit. So we start

walking down a very crowded aisle. You know, it's, you know, how it is on Easter is like

people on like completely crowded. But anyway, we're making our way and he's going really

slowly. He's walking right in front of me. I have my hands on my shoulder. And uh, I go,

honey, do you think we can go a little faster? Because I'm worried he's going to throw up

in the middle of the aisle. And he, he didn't respond. So I kind of peaked around to look

at his face and he did not look good. He looked ashen. I was like, Oh, no. And just as I'm realizing,

he doesn't look good. He starts to go down. He goes down. I'm like, Oh my God. So he kind

of crumbled almost, it was like a slow mo faint crumbling forward. I grabbed him. There was a

nice man at the end of the pew who kind of reached out and helped grab him so that he didn't have

a hard fall. And then we laid him down to where like I had his head. And one of the parishioners

was like, put his feet up by this point, Doug and my other two had run over. And so Doug got his

feet up. I took off my jacket, put him, put it under his head. And now you're just kind of

waiting for him to come back. He was gone. You know, he, not gone, gone. I just mean he was like

clearly unconscious and it was obviously invented. And now you just have the waiting game of like

what, what's going to happen next? Everyone in the church was so sweet. People were like,

here's some water. Do you want us to call a doctor? I'm like, I think he's going to be okay. You

could tell like he was breathing and he was like able to move. He was just unconscious or I guess

I think you do call it unconscious when you fainted. And sure enough, he opened his eyes back

after I don't know a minute, roughly. And then he slowly kind of sat up. And I, I'm not,

as soon as I realized he totally was okay. It was a fail. I'm not, it took everything in me,

not to cry out. He is risen. I didn't do it like this isn't appropriate. We've already been

disruptive enough, but it occurred to me. Anyway, we got him up and we walked him out and can I tell

you he was like fine. As soon as we left the mass like he got some fresh air, he, his,

obviously his vaso, vagal situation resolved. And my husband, Joe, because we go between two

different churches. And my husband's like, we could still make the 945. Of course my kids'

eyes are like, what? We did not. So we did not. I don't think we technically fulfilled our Sunday

obligation because we did not get communion. But we had a good reason. I think God understood.

And then today, okay, so then my daughter was like, mom, you should have told him to bend his

knees like I told you. I'm like, what? That was about not fainting. And now in the past 24 hours,

I have learned so many parents have had this happen with their kids in this exact way. Or it

often happens, I guess it choirs like chorus performances where kids are standing for a long time.

And my daughter, Yardley, had heard this from her middle school principal who told him a story

about a girl passing out while on the choir roster on the top of the top riser. And she got hurt.

As she always reminds the girls, bend your knees when you're standing up straight for a long time.

And I just asked online AI this morning, is it common for kids to pass out when standing for a

long time with lock knees? Answer, yes, it's actually pretty common, especially in kids and

teenagers. What you're describing is the classic setup for a brief fainting episode called

phasovagal syncope. Syncopy, syncope. When it, why it happens? When someone stands for a long time,

locks their knees and doesn't shift their weight or move, it reduces the normal muscle pumping

action in the legs that helps blood return to the heart. This can lead to blood pooling in the

legs, a temporary drop in blood pressure, reduced blood flow to the brain and fainting.

Kids and teens are especially prone because their nervous systems are a bit more reactive

and they may not recognize the early warning signs. Then they say it shows up a lot during

school assemblies, choir or performances, ceremonies like graduations, parades, church services,

standing information like scouts or ROTC. Warning signs, most kids feel something first like

dizziness, lightheadedness, nausea, sweating, tunnel vision, which he also told me later that he had

ringing in the ears. So in any event, he was fine. They say that prevention is lock your,

don't lock your knees. Just like Ardly said, keep a slight bend, shift your weight or suddenly

move your legs, stay hydrated and eat beforehand. Indeed, he had to skip to breakfast yesterday

morning. So what a crazy situation. Good to know for us and for other parents out there and for

kids. My daughter was right. Lock your knees. What the priest was saying, it was important,

but as it so happened this particular Sunday morning, what my daughter was saying to me was more

important for my particular family and I wish I had listened. So anyway, there was our drama. He

was fine and we had a very nice Easter spend it together. The five of us just as I, just as any

ideal for me is. So anyway, lots of love to you and yours and there you go. News you can use.

There is a lot of other news this morning, moving fast and furiously on this very busy Monday

around Iran and else else in other subjects. President Trump has set an 8 p.m. Eastern deadline

tomorrow evening for the Iranians to open up the street of hormones. Of course, this is like

less than a week after he said, we're just going to leave and they're going to open up the

street. It's going to happen naturally like we don't care about the street, but I guess we do

care about it because now we're saying that deadline he set a while ago of like 10 days to open

the street still holds, even though we said last week, kind of it doesn't. Anyway, I guess it

does hold. And the president saying if they do not open the street, the president will target

Iran's bridges and energy plants. And you may have heard he issued that warning in a very

Trumpian way as he put it on truth social on Easter morning, quote, open the fucking street.

Yeah, crazy bastards. It's FUCKIN with an apostrophe at the end or you'll be living in hell.

Just watch. Praise B to Allah. Unquote. Okay, that's real. I actually texted my team. Is this

real? It's real that that did come from Trump. You're going to want to stay tuned to our entire show

because in the next hour, Mr. Trump is expected to hold a press conference, which will likely include

details of the dramatic rescue. Thank God we left on Friday with the one pilot not having been

found. They found him. Thank God. And he's okay. And the the rescue appears made for a movie.

And it's like a seriously dramatic situation. He was a weapons systems officer. And his plane

was shot down deep into enemy territory in Iran on Friday. By the time we went to air then,

we had the pilot, but we didn't have this guy. And now we do. Trump says he has some minor injuries,

but he's going to be just fine. You're going to want to hear about this rescue. No matter

how you feel about the war, just hats off to the amazing efforts of our military to retrieve

our guys. And what we know so far is that it involved a dramatic seal team six nighttime op,

along with the CIA deception campaign. I mean those seal team six guys. These are just bad

asses. Like those guys, the green berets, the rangers, it's just next level. It's very impressive.

First though, okay, first we started on something dramatic in my family. We teased what we're

going to get to. That's dramatic in Iran. And now we've got something kind of fun. And there's a

reason we have to start the show with it. It's going to become apparent to you in a minute.

Something about our good friend, Emily Chishinsky, who is here with me in the red studio. She's

outside the studio. I don't see her yet, but she's going to be coming out on set in a minute.

Now, Emily is host of After Party, which is her own show on the MK Media podcast network. You

can watch it live every Monday and Wednesday at 9 p.m. or you can catch it as a pod after the

fact they post it. She also hosts the MK wrap up show that comes on right after our show does

on Series XM channel 111. Well, recently we decided it might be fun to do something for

maybe some contributors to the show and possibly some viewers. And we asked Emily if she would

be our guinea pig. And she is so sweet to me. She was like, I'll do it. And then behind the scenes,

she told the team, oh my god, I'm very uncomfortable with this. But she did it because she's such a

great team player. And here's what we did. We decided to hook her up with the very same team

that's responsible for much of my look each day. I should date for the record. I am not wearing

a Molly look today. I'm wearing a little leather jacket. Sure, she'd be fine with it, but she did

not just for the record, put this particular thing together. But I got together the woman who's

been doing my styling now for many, many years. Molly Cohen and my dear friend and hairstylist

Sarah Clementi, who does hair and makeup, though I do my own makeup. And I put, we put Emily

Gisinski through this glam team's professional skills. And we documented the whole thing. You're

going to see her. I don't know if we'd call it a makeover or so much as a like a sprucing,

a jujing maybe. She didn't need a makeover. She was stunning then. She's stunning now. But we

documented the whole thing. And we'll see the big reveal in a minute. Watch this.

We want to locate yourself and be like, I look good. That's kind of our job finding that a

hot moment where we need someone to feel like themselves in the best way. So you're like, oh,

I don't care. You're lying. You absolutely care. No one wants to feel like shit. My name is Molly

Cohen. I'm a stylist. My name is Sarah Clementi. I'm Megan's hairstylist. I've been working with Megan

for almost eight years, about six years. Traveling on the go, doing her hair or a plane. It's not

a car. The number one priority today, Link, making sure that everyone's hair looks absolutely flawless

even at Syracuse. We've really defined Megan's love very effortless. A little sex appeal.

Let's hope the absence of double-sided tape doesn't come back to help me. And then also very

serious and professional. We kind of love walking that fine mind. Not me, obviously, before my time.

Oh, this one. Whatever you do, don't do this. Now, I just do what Molly tells me.

How far we've come. The school says they're going to be out of luck. The New York Times reporter

Judith Miller said she went from being conservative. Two big things happened. Up top, you know,

to having more fun with a sexier, yeah. What a crazy weekend news in his band.

Sure, so do you can make anybody hot? She always says not. Love that, yeah. Is that true?

I think so. And I'm telling you, if you've fallen Sarah's good graces, she she can make you look

like me in like two months. Wow. I think that we're going to see a different sign of Emily. Emily

has full potential. Ready for it? It is about the most uncomfortable thing you could ever ask me

to endure. Welcome to that closet, everyone. Not a big hair make a close person as people may know.

I love denim, denim. I mean, actually, you've been wearing a version of this shirt. This, I don't

even, I don't even know what to say. I don't like having to dress up. Big friends. Well, you

usually get away with jeans on the bottom because only your upper body is on the camera. How would you

describe your personal style? I reject the question. I don't know if anyone remembers the cartoon

Doug from the 90s where he goes to his closet and it's like 20 different versions of the exact

same outfit, but as a child, I watched that and I was like, that is the dream. I'm into

feeling even more confident and about, you know, hair, makeup and clothes and all that because it's

tough. It's tough. When, especially when you don't have a lot of professional help. It's anything

off limits. It's a little bit goes along by it. I'm like, that's what we are doing for her. It's a

little bit. She's going to warm up through it. So we got on Zoom two or three weeks ago just to

get an idea of what we're allowed to do, her vibe. I was such a hardcore cowboy growing up. I

just was hardcore. So I never really learned how to do a lot of that type of thing. I don't have

my ears pierced. I've never painted my nails once in my life. I don't particularly want to.

Is there any person that you watch or follow that whose style inspires you? Someone that you

just like pause on. Jennifer Aniston in the morning show. Oh, I love that. I am unprecedented.

Simple and like elegant. She looks good in anything. I think that your way more

girly than you think you are. Today I think we're just going to kind of guide her to put the pieces

together and how to do it. The essentials, like you have a good base and then you just kind of

build off of that base. I'm very excited because she said that she's okay with extensions.

Rub it all over you. I got makeup for her that I think she'll be able to do herself.

We're going to work off what she already has. I wish I wanted to be easy for her.

If you could be a sexy tomboy. Wow, amazing. As we both kind of sought you sought to when she

started trying on the clothes, at first she was like, I'm absolutely nervous.

And then she started liking it. Slowly, confidence is building.

Helps everything. If you're confident, you're thriving. I want her to look at herself in style.

I'm actually like the way I look right now. I so wish you had a tiny earring there.

Do you want me to up here? I tried piercing her ear. She said no. You know, I have a gun at home.

From how we first met her to today, transformation, attitude and all. She's giving full

girly vibes right now. That gives it a little edge, you know? Yeah, I like it. Thoughts?

I don't love the top. She is now kind of a diva. I'm not true. This is the process of being like,

I don't like that. Yes, I like that. I really like this. So this is how it starts.

We are doing this my way. I did not kill either of you and I didn't even hit you.

I think the confidence is what nothing will be most exciting for her. I think she's having fun,

she's comfortable and I think Megan will see it instantly. I need to pick a look for the bigger

deal. Okay, can we see? This is definitely my favorite. Oh my god, I think Megan will be dead.

Okay, so I haven't seen the final product, like the made over Emily, but she's here and she's

been getting her hair done and she's coming in now. So let's bring her in.

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She joins me now for the big reveal. Oh my god. Look at this sophisticated beauty. Hi,

Megan. Hi. Plug myself in. Yeah, plug yourself in. Oh my god. So first of all, you look so good.

Look at that waves. Thank you. I mean Sarah's an artist. She's amazing. She's amazing. You are such a

good sport. I was happy to know it. No, I wasn't. You look incredible. For the listing audience,

she's got this great like sky blue suit on, I would say, with like a like a white tank underneath.

Yeah. And a beautiful diamond necklace that she's got the beach combie here. Look at yeah,

yeah, yeah, now they can see you. Oh my god. She looks so pretty in your makeup. Oh, again,

Sarah is amazing. But she, but it's nice. It's not overdone. Yeah, right? Yeah. And actually,

she helped me get to a point where I can almost do it myself. Yeah, is that right? Okay. And she

put a couple of fake hair pieces in there. I'm wearing the hair of some Eastern European woman

in all likelihood. Most of it's mine, but not all of it. So you think you never know quite where it

came from? Yes, that's a good point. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it's like, you know how they say

if you take like an organ from somebody you might take on some of their characteristics. Have you

been feeling like, especially like bossy, like a German or I haven't, but now I might, but you

said it. It's going to get in my head. That hasn't really happened to me. I've got a bunch of other

people's hair in my head too. When she was there, it was funny because she, she did my hair,

as she said for many years. And when she first started, she was like, why don't we put a couple

pieces in there? We'll just do a couple. And she lures you in. And then before, before you know,

she's gotten you like full, like as as a friend of mine calls a full bomb shell with a long hair.

A lot, but I do love it. It does make you feel so good. Well, thank you. Yeah, Sarah's amazing,

Molly is amazing. The whole team here is people, if people have never been behind the scenes,

which most haven't, they just miss that part of it. Yeah, it's so much fun to be with the team.

Talk to me about what it felt like to go through the wardrobe situation because I love, for

listening audience, when Emily showed us her closet, all literally always was the same denim button

down. I wore it today. It's a stand. It's like a 10 different versions of it, but it's literally

just like light denim, dark denim, light denim, dark denim, like Doug, like not my Doug, but the

Doug and the cartoon are featured there. So what was it like for you looking at this whole other,

you know, realm of possibilities based on the Jennifer Aniston character? You know, I hated

every second of it, Megan. Yeah, that's fine. I mean, it's got like, it's a part of journalism and

broadcast is just you have to look like you have it together. And you know, you can't look like a

crazy person. You have to look like you're organized and together and professional. And so it's

something that sooner rather than later, you have to take care of it and you have to do a good job

with it. So it was important and they made it so like it could have been so much worse.

Yeah, it's so much fun. Well, and you know what I have found? Of course, obviously I pay them for

their services, but I think they wind up paying for themselves because believe it or not, like you,

I was also a tomboy growing up. My favorite picture of myself is me in a tire swing where you

cannot tell if I'm a boy or a girl. I have boy hair at my own request, by the way, I wanted that

haircut. And I also am not very good at fashion when left my own devices. Like I can, as you point

out that thing, like I can do the top, like this is not a Molly top, as I pointed out, but

by the way, it's by commando for those of you who like this little leather top, which is very cute,

I think. But I put myself in Molly's good hands. And she can pull together all these beautiful

outfits. Sometimes I wear them on the show, but I always wear Molly clothes when I'm like at a

public appearance, you know? Because if you don't have that gift, it's kind of like home decorating.

Yeah. You just don't have that gift. Right. And it's really, it's so artistic in the hands of

a professional. So like if you're just doing it as a normal person and an amateur, like you could

probably do it fine, but it's an art for people like Molly. And she takes it seriously. I don't know

if we do do it fine. I was not doing it fine. I would suggest the all denim wardrobe.

You also might not have been in the fine category. I will gladly take it back, but I mean,

that's it. Like it is an art when it's in someone's hands like Molly. And so it was really,

it was actually really cool to see that from her. When you feel, well, how do you feel right now?

Like I, I'll dress up with the makeup and the hair. You're looking bombshell-y. So I never,

ever get nervous for anything like this. Yeah. I was so nervous about today because I don't,

I just like don't like being in the spotlight, which kind of weird. Yeah. Like I don't, I'm not

into like hair and makeup and clothes and that sort of thing. But I feel great. I mean, I actually,

to your point about somebody like Molly paying for herself, I took her advice and like bought

some of the stuff she picked out in different color. Well, now I'm sounding too bad. But I really did

do that. And I feel like I won't have to replace a lot of it for a long time. Because it's just like

really like reliable and you can mix and match. And once you learn what looks good on you and what

doesn't too, that's helpful. Like I recommend seeing a stylist once if for no other reason than that

reason. Like you thought you look good in high-waisted pants, but you don't. Or you thought that,

you know, this particular stylist flattering on you, but it isn't. And so like that, that too

pays for herself. Otherwise, it's like furniture. It's true. I cannot decorate a home to save my life.

And I have tried many times in the apartments and the houses I lived in over the years. And it

wasn't until I hired a professional that I was like, this is expensive, but it's less expensive

than buying stuff. You wind up hating and wanting to get rid of it a year later. And that's the same

is true with wardrobe, I think. And I do think wardrobe is transformative. I mood dress, you know,

like it's Monday. There's a lot of hard news. We're talking about Iran. We're talking about soldiers.

The political scene is rough and tumble right now. I like having the leather on.

I didn't know that about you, but that didn't make so much sense now that you say that.

Yeah. I'll tell you something. You know, when I did that event for Charlie Kirk right after he

was killed at Virginia Tech. That night, so that was a scary one because it was before our tour

launched. It was like two weeks after Charlie had been murdered. And it was only the second

tour stop. Michael Knowles did the first one post Charlie, I think in Minnesota. And I did the

second one post Charlie. And you know, the Charlie and I were supposed to be there together.

Anyway, there was no way I was not going, but it was extremely tense. And there were multiple

reasons why we were on edge of that night. And Molly was sending me, Molly knew none of this.

You know, she's she doesn't fashion. She's not like totally immersed in the political world.

So she's sending me these beautiful outfits like possible for me to wear. And they were like,

they were red or they were pink or they were like kind of floral or they were girly. You know,

and I I wrote back to her something I've never said. I said, Molly, I said, I'm worried about

getting shot. I want something in all black. I want something that feels like armor. And I did

wear something that looked like armor that night. I did have leather on and I was in all black.

That that it's going to protect you. Right. It's just a it's a psychological. It's psychological.

Yeah. And the same is like if you're going to go to the White House and cover President Trump,

like I wouldn't wear this, but I would wear what you're wearing in a heartbeat or you want to feel

like a little elevated and professional and like dress the part. Right. You know, and it it

matters to how other people perceive you. It changes how what you're saying is hitting other

people's ears and how they're seeing it and perceiving it. So it is important. I mean,

you could be the most eloquent person in the world. And we love to think that it wouldn't matter,

you know, how you looked or what you, but it does. It obviously does. And so I think actually

that's super interesting because it changes. I mean, it gives probably you psychologically,

I'm just thinking about that example, the gravity that you wanted to come to the table with.

And then it also conveys it to other people too. Yes, absolutely. So you do have to have like

a couple of those wardrobe pieces where like if you want to look like a grown-up, feel like

a grown-up and project like a grown-up, you can. But the the tomboy instinct is very fun. It like,

I also have that in me. And like, yes, 100%. I mean, I will dress, dress feminine,

thanks to Molly. She'll put me in things that I do like, but left my own devices. I mean,

truly what I'm normally, I mean, right now I have in my allow pants, which I wear every day.

I'm going to show them. I love them so much. Like, it's great. I mean, that was just so comfortable.

They're just truly, it's like, I don't, I don't want to show my stomach, but I see it says,

allow. And they're kind of baggy and I really love them. They look really comfortable. And I have on

hug, huge, shit-kicking cloth. You can see they are, they're very large. They're the most comfortable

thing I own. But my point is simply when I'm here generally, I am comfortable. And I love that.

To me, it's actually the biggest middle finger of leaving the mainstream media is that

we can do what we want. You can wear a t-shirt. You don't actually have to go glam for this job,

but all if you want, if you don't want to, normally I want to. And that's part of growing up in

TV. I'm very used to seeing myself on camera looking like this. And if I don't look made up,

I feel, I feel like exposed. Yeah. Yeah, it's confidence. But I admire that you can go on with next

and nothing on and feel totally confident. I mean, I, so I spent probably five or so

plus years more than that doing a lot of fox and cable. And I absolutely hated every second of it.

And so I felt completely liberated when the pandemic rolled around and they were starting to do

Zoom hits and that type of thing. So I love this era. But you can't go full. And I noticed that

right away that like I can't just like take off all my makeup and wear it like I try not to wear

hats and that type of thing. But you can find a balance. I'm finding a balance. I'm finding a

balance. It is true. And I will tell you that like any man that it's usually the men who don't

want to get the makeup and they all learn the hard way that if you don't, you look like Casper

that friendly ghost because these, these lights that we need to light up the anchor's face so people

can see him or her wash you out. They get you. Yeah. So it's like you, you, you just get used to

like putting it on in men. They, they only resist the first time. Once they've seen themselves,

then they're like, okay, I'll do it because the men don't want the makeup. Oh, they don't want to

have the compacts, but they do. Yeah. And they don't leave them when they're doing, when they're

going on air, they'll have them. That's right. They have them with them. And then the normal men will

wash it off after they leave. The men who leave it on all day are sus. The normal man.

Yeah, it's a little weird because it's not comfortable either if you're a man probably. No,

but it's funny because like I'm at the point now where like a completely naked face feels so

foreign to me. I mean, I do that twice a day, wake up like that. And I, and in the evenings,

I take off all my makeup before I go to sleep and I walk around my house with my family, but like

I just feel so naked without that. That's the only way I can, I can put it. It's probably because

the last like however many years of your life, you're every single day, people look at you

and talk about you and are like commenting on you. Well, you wouldn't want to get like just weird.

Caught, you know, by the paparazzi in your completely undone hair and completely undone face.

I guess, I don't know. Wait, I feel like, but you're, I just feel like you're naturally pretty.

I feel like I don't know. I feel like I'm so pasty with all my stuff on. Truly, I do. I feel like

people would be like, my god, she, she has no pigment. TMZ, they can tell you lacks all.

It's funny because I had, I saw my primary care physician last week and we had a very

interesting conversation about looks. Oh, yeah. He goes. Maxing. Yeah. He, I, that's how it got started

because I asked him if he had listened to that conversation on the daily. Yeah.

About clavicular. Yeah. This guy who who's like coin that phrase looks maxing. Yeah. And I was laughing

because it was all about how like, guys are now taking supplements and they're having surgeries

or they're doing Botox or the GLP one. And I was like, that's called being a normal woman.

How's this a thing now? Like, they didn't invent this. This is like every woman I know has had

many needles in her face from, you know, regular Botox or filler or whatever it is. We're all on

math constantly. Lasers. Yeah. Matt. Well, that's what he's on. Yeah. He's microdosing. But

anyway, I was kind of laughing that it got this, the New York Times treatment when it's a man,

but it's, when it's a woman, it's just kind of like a day ending and why. And he was like, well,

aren't you looking forward to 10 years from now? And I said, why? And he said, because your looks

will no longer be the primary thing people noticed about you. Before you even got it out,

I was like, wrecked you. No. No. No, I'm not. Why would he say that? Nor do I accept that that's

what's happening in 10 years. I plan to go down swinging. There's so many older women I know who

are stunning. And I think it's really just a personal choice, whether you want to like, but he was

like, it will be liberating for you when the first thing anybody notices about you is what you

have to say. I was like, why? I think people listen to whatever. It's a combo. But he was raising

a good point, which is I definitely think about looks when I walk into a room, not every woman does.

And that's probably extremely liberating to just be like, here I am. I don't give a shit what

you think of my looks. Yeah. But it's one of those things where you can't do it when you're like,

a, of course, broadcasting, but be source meetings. Like you have to have a certain level of

professionalism. And I do see younger people who grew up during COVID and they want to go do journalism.

And they just don't have that same, you don't have a choice. If you're like, I'm not that old,

but like 10 plus years ago, you don't have a choice. You had to like learn how to conduct yourself

professionally. And I do think that might be getting lost with like COVID-19. I have this bias.

I mean, when somebody walks in for an interview or what and they are like pulled together,

they don't have to look as fancy as you do. But like, just pulled together. I am more favorably

inclined toward them than if somebody came in with no makeup, hair undone, and like an outfit that

I thought was on the Slav and Lee side, I would hold it against them. I just feel like togetherness

as a person, like if somebody's going to work for my company, project something like a meticulousness,

an attention to detail, a caring, you know, I do find that like a lot of people who make zero

effort are depressed. And that it can be a tell that like, they couldn't find the energy.

Isn't there social science about how people will just innately, unintentionally,

they sign like lower degrees of trust to the obese? And the, I'm pretty sure there's social

science on that. And the reason I say that is I think it conveys, I mean, the theory is that

it conveys a lack of discipline. And so you just don't, or self control. And I think there is

something about, even if you're somebody who's like, I don't really care that much about clothes

and whatever, but you should convey that you care enough about their meeting or the broadcast

or whatever it is to dress like you care. Yeah. And so there's something to that. People might

be surprised, but I actually have a bias. I do not want to gain weight. And then I go to this

primary care physician, which I've told the audience before he's a fattest, like he won't let you gain

two pounds without gilting you say, you know, how many two pounds is over 10 years? Good luck

getting that off. So, but I like that because I don't want to gain weight. But personally,

I have a soft spot when I see somebody who's obese or comes into my life as obese because my mom

has always been overweight. She loves when I tell this story. Yeah, my mom's been overweight my

whole life when I was a kid growing up in Syracuse. She was like really overweight. Now she's

slimmer. But I associate that with like warmth and love and like funny. And I don't know.

My mom is so great that that's what I associate that. So I almost have a bias and favor of

people who are pleasantly plump. She will not like any of these words. I hate this. And now I'm

going to get blamed. But no, it doesn't. But now it doesn't take a lack of discipline to be

overweight because of the food that we eat. And they'll buy us that we live. So it doesn't

protect that necessarily anymore. It's just like an innate, I think human reaction. So whatever

reason. So now what kind of reaction have you gotten to like has has the significant do are we out

with a significant other? Do people know who it is? Philip? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Phil, Phil, Phil, Phil of Wegman of RCP. Well, first day at the Wall Street Journal today.

Oh, no way. Oh, congrats, Phil. I probably shouldn't have said that, but

well, he's he's the boss. He is a cutie, patootie. And it's no surprise these two are together. But

it actually was a surprise to me because I didn't know that. So did he see any of the before?

This was like, yes, I knew you just as we launched the show. He he asked to do an interview. And I was

like, I don't know anything about Phil. And Steve Cracker is like, he's great. You're going to love

him. I'm like, you know, I'm yeah, I know. But I'm so suspicious of any any reporter. I don't know.

And he was awesome. And the piece wound up completely fair and great. So anyway,

I love that you two are together. So has he seen made over Emily? He loves the extensions.

He loves the extensions. And yet he always he always yeah, he he loves whenever I dress feminine.

And so yes, he's very.

Oh, we're a big fan of his. All right. So the reason we did this is I don't know why we did this

exactly. I just thought it would be fun. I just thought it would be fun. Like a sort of a lighter

side of the show. And in my mind, what we're going to do is we did you maybe we'll do one other

person associated with our show, maybe not. But I want to take this to the audience. Like I

really would love to to have like audience submissions on. Is there someone in your life who

you think deserves this deserves an mk show makeover or is judging. I will do men. I will do

men. Mark could use our help. You're on notice, Mark. Mark, you have no necessarily Clementi. I

will make you hot treatment. Oh, extensions. No, but Mark's a good looking guy. Just, you know,

he spent some time in Molly's care with the wardrobe. I think we could take it next level.

I'd love to see what they would do with Link. I think Link wouldn't let anybody touch him. He's

like, girls, I've nailed it. Get improved on. Anyway, give us some thought, ladies and gentlemen

listening now. And if you have somebody who you want to nominate for this treatment,

a little mk show makeover with some wardrobe and some hair and makeup, email me. It's Megan,

M E G Y N at Megan Kelly dot com. We are taking your submission. So so fun. Thank you for being

our. Thank you. Stunning, getting big. I know that it was painful, but your team is so much fun

and you're so much fun that they made it a blast. I love Sarah Molly and everyone else.

They're great. They're so great. Just do what they tell you and they will take input and then

overrule you. But that makes you feel like you're a part of the process. Sarah's my new best friend.

She's been saying the same. Okay, let's keep going because there actually is other news to

discuss today, 1237. We finally get to it. We know about that. Sure. We know about Molly and Sarah

and your makeover and my visit to my doctor. Let's get down to the news. So before we get to the

rescue, what happened this weekend because it really was a stunning thing. The president's messaging

on Iran has been particularly erratic over the past week. And I don't know whether this is all

strategy. You know, Trump likes to keep the enemy guessing whether the enemy is the actual

enemy like we're seeing with Iran in a war or just people he's negotiating against like China

in a tariff battle. So he often has erratic messaging that to us looks kind of crazy, but to him

is just, you know, a tactic that we will later understand or we won't, but he thinks we'll give him

a leg up. So I don't know what's happening here, but there there's no question in my mind. He didn't

say open the fucking straight. F U C K I N apostrophe. You crazy bastards. Yeah, crazy bastards.

It's like full Roy Cone. Yeah. There's no reason. There's no question. He did that not because he's

gone insane as his worst critics have said. But for a reason, my my first thought is he wants attention

to this. And there's no better way to get attention than to take it next level. And let's look at

the messaging around open the fucking straight. I mean that that enough itself got it. I'll remember

that one. He wants it open, not closed. And around it is Tuesday will be power plant day, bridge day,

all wrapped in one in Iran. There will be nothing like it triple exclamation open the fucking

straight crazy bastards. I like and think of his that scene in home alone like yeah filthy animals,

you know, or you'll be living in hell. Just watch that has all caps. What is it that just watch

get all caps? Praise be to Allah the other day. Okay, I don't know why Allah is here the day before

the best part of the party. He ended it with glory be to God. So maybe he's being an equal

opportunity. Oh, you know, maybe it's the first amendment situation where he's not trying to promote

one religion. Sure, he's really conscious of that. You do speak fluent Trump. You were talking

about this on Friday show. I think you're just cracked the code. I did stick out to me that he's

being an equal opportunity religious promoter. So and then he says to he gave two interviews over

the phone, one to ABC and then there was a second one. Sorry, that's in my AM update where he's

making clear they need to open the straight. I mean, it's all about like open the straight or else.

So what do you make of it all? I mean, your point is I think the important one that he literally

wrote about this negotiation style and art of the deal. And we saw it over and over again exactly

a year ago with the tariffs. And this reminds me so much of the post liberation day tariff negotiation

that was going on via X where he was making these massive deals or at least he thought he was via

increasingly. I don't know that I would say erratic with the tariffs, but maybe increasingly

bombastic posts on X and you can never disentangle what is serious from what is negotiation. And

that I think is his point. I think that's what he wants to do. He wants you to not like you said,

he wants to keep people guessing, but he also doesn't totally want to telegraph how serious or

non-serious he is about anything. And so you end up having to take absolutely everything seriously

including posts like this, which are threats of essentially war crimes. And that leaves the public

in a really odd place because you and I both know the media has covered Trump so poorly for so long.

And every single tweet was taken like the end of the world. And I think this term he's really

leaned into doing these global deals via true social acts or whatever. And I think he's realized

that you can you can confuse people, keep people guessing by posts. And it just makes it very

difficult to pick up what his where his head actually is. That's the point. I think that's

intentionally why he's doing it. But then again, you're also threatening civilian infrastructure

and the like. So it's hard. Right. Because we are supposed to be, you know, eventually helping

the Iranian people. At least that's exactly one of the goals that was originally stated,

though it's waffled, bombing all of their civilian infrastructure will not help the Iranian people

and it actually could cost a lot of Iranian civilian lives. So we have to be like super careful

about that. The rules as I understand it under the Geneva Convention say, if they're using these

things to support the military, then possibly fair game. The bridge last week. Yeah. But if they're

if they're purely a civilian, like the desalination plans should not be touched. He had mentioned

that in one truth, which notably did not make the most recent truth, which I'm sure somebody got

to him to say, that's a hard no on those. Though one was struck last week. And then there was

a finger pointing about what about who had done it. It wasn't us. It was like Iran said Israel did

it and Israel said Iran didn't try to remember exactly where it happened. And our government was

saying that it was being used for war purposes so that it would it could be used for like weapons

transportation and that type of thing. I mean, I will say like I'm having difficulty believing

everything that our government is putting out, which is strange for me. Like I normally would

believe our government. And it's not about Trump. It's about having been lied to for so many years

in Iraq and Afghanistan and having accepted their lies unquestioningly and peddled them, you know,

unwittingly. And I just refuse to be the conduit to that to that again. It's very easy to

it's very interesting to me, Emily, that virtually all of the loudest pushback on this war

has come from people who are in the independent news space, right? Like I would say the independent

lane has been most forceful and probably most effective in in turning around public opinion on this

because no one owns us. No one controls us. So it's like one thing if MSNBC is like it sucks and

Trump sucks. Of course, they all know what they're doing on team blue. Even though a lot of those

Democrats are beholden to APAC and are not saying that in any way because like they actually want to

make a point about Israel's control, you know, they're just saying it because they hate Trump.

But there's a lot happening in the independent lane right now. These podcasters who we were told

have absolutely no power, who I think are turning sentiment with some people because we're all able

to report very openly and honestly on the folly of what we're doing here and the reversal and the

betrayal that this was to Trump's campaign promises. And look, the president, I told him this directly

that I don't support this war, but I do support him. And there's a difference. You know, you can

you can still support Trump and his agenda without you don't have to go full TDS. Right.

In order to say I object to this war and I don't think this is a good idea.

And I don't know, have you noticed this at all like in the coverage because

you know, we're if you turn on Fox News, you only have one message and there is a reason for that.

I was going to say case in point would be looking at CNN where actually this is interesting,

very anti-Trump network, but not a lot of pitched criticism of the war itself at all. Like,

have there been many viral CNN clips of like Trump or Ron takedowns? Not particularly.

And I think that's because there's a lot of baked in support for what you're hearing at the

Pentagon or from I mean, a lot of the leaks right now are very obviously coming from the intelligence

community like Natasha Bertrand had a big scoop blast again. Everyone is like the discredited

reporter who had all the scoops on Russia gate that turned out to be completely false.

Yes. And interestingly, that scoop she had last week with Jim Sudo who was like chief of staff

to the ambassador to China during the Obama administration. So clearly this was coming from

somewhere in the, I would say like military intelligence world. That was about how actually

Iranian, Iran still had like 50 percent of its missile launchers and that type of capacity.

So you're trying to like piece together why that story came out when. But this is why I mean,

there are decades of pieces of evidence that people brag about afterwards in our own government

when it comes to propaganda that they were feeding to the press over and over again throughout

the Cold War. It is not like some giant conspiracy. You can look at the memos yourself. And so

it's part of any government's playbook. And now people are just wise to that because the internet

democracy, even if it's a government you support, they're going to lie to you, especially as a member

of the press. But you have this contrast of having seen it from the inside and now being on

outside. And that has to be a really interesting experience. It's disappointing because I don't,

I can't like, I don't want this to sound like too weird. But like, I really care about this

administration. I care about the players. You know, I did back them personally and I still

back them. And I really, really, really desperately want Trump to just get back to the agenda that he

actually did run on. You know, both for the nation's sake and for his sake and his party's sake.

And for 2028's sake, I've kind of given up on 2026 to be perfectly honest with you. But like

2028 could still be salvaged and could definitely be hurt, right? And so I just, I,

people don't support this war. The support for the war is down in the 30s. So it's like the

the president can make himself feel better by saying, well, mag is totally behind me. Well,

mag is 15% of the population. That's not enough. So when elections, you need not only mag,

you need the majority of Republicans or not all mag. And in fact, more and more are saying they're not

mag. The people who say the portion that says it's mag is dwindling at the moment. And you need

outside of Republicans, you need independence. And if you can get some crossover Democrats,

like he did in 24, so much the better. Right. So let's, whatever we thought or he thought about

this war, whatever sweet nothings, Mark Levin and Lindsey Graham whispered to him. Did you see his

live in tweet last night? Yeah, another one. The Supreme Court should be watching, Mark Levin,

that is what he, that is how they spend their time. Oh my God. Like he loves Mark Levin. We have

to admit it. He's obsessed with Mark Levin. Who among us? I mean, he doesn't want to get to know him

intimately because I'm telling you there's a secret who's hiding there. Well, apparently not a secret

anymore. I, of course, I've never, I can't attest to it, you know, individually. I don't know what

you're talking about, but I'm just saying you take one look at him and anybody who's got that much

to prove he's got a problem. You know, see, this is the, here's what's dangerous actually,

now that I'm thinking of it, the proportion of mega voters shrinking. Harry Enten had that

stunning CNN poll that people were actually like surprised by when it showed like a hundred percent

of mega two weeks into the war wasn't supportive Donald Trump. Those are like the Mark Levin types.

And you wonder, if you just start listening to this group that's getting smaller and smaller,

and it's the fifth avenue voters, which is the term that I, term of endearment that I used for those

folks who Trump could shoot someone on fifth avenue and it still support them because they trust

him. Everyone else was lying to them and he correctly told them that. So they trust him.

There's something like rational about it, even if I disagree with it, they, if that's, they're not

going to criticize you and you're only listening to them and they're getting more and more isolated

and a bubble. That is frightening in a wartime scenario. And the mega coalition was not just, you

explained this really well when you said you were mega adjacent. That is how so many people

high profile critics of the war were, but they were being called mega because the media didn't

understand what it actually was. That's exactly right. And now the right is not understanding what

it actually was because they're looking around. Well, you were mega. Yeah. Aren't you with us?

No, there's a litmus test. I mean, the president still thinks he can punish certain of us by saying

you're not mega. Like it's not a punishment. My audience knows I'm not mega. I never was.

Except for on Halloween. Yes, on Halloween. That's true. But I care about the present. And I

support him. And I love to get off the Iron War if possible. We'll be right back. We're not done.

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900 numbers still exist. I think maybe like when I was in middle school. Like watching like MTV

that night. Oh, now it's just only fans I guess. If you want to like talk dirty to somebody,

you can find somebody there out of business probably. Oh, maybe it's bimbo effication.

Yeah, those ladies will talk dirty to you according to the

Brian Nome phone records that each one of these ladies is producing every day we get a new one.

I just try not to think about it. It haunts me. Did you happen to see Tim Dylan?

I said. All right, we've got to show this to the audience. We love Tim Dylan here. He's brilliant.

He's like the best comedians. He's brilliant. He is. And and he it's not that he masks it.

It's just that his persona is like funny and slapstick and like irreverent as hell. But he is

brilliant. Just listen to his words and his takes like his his ins and outs on various stories.

And this this is a combo clip. But he took on the issue of Christie Nome and Brian Nome

while wearing for the listing audience similar prosthetic boobs and a shirt to what

Brian Nome famously infamously was wearing in those daily male photos last week. Watch.

The family was blindsided by this. Miss Nome has devastated. The family was blindsided by this

and they asked for privacy and prayers at this time. What am I supposed to promise?

I'm supposed to pray for this guy in his tents. So wait a minute. All the horror that's

happening in the world. People are literally being vaporized by machines of death. Flying

you know in the air. We were bombing schoolgirls while they sit in class and I'm supposed to pray

for Christie Nome's husband and his age cup tits. That's where the direction my prayers

are supposed to go in when the people in Gaza are wandering around trying to find grain so they

can bake a loaf of bread. I'm supposed to pay pray for Christie Nome's husband and his big tits.

Well, no, I will not pray for your husband and his big tits. How about that? You can pray for his

big tits. Do you think she threw the tits out? We should have gimme those tits.

Oh my god. I hope Brian Nome wasn't watching that because it might have worked. Yeah, he probably

loved them. It's going to be bigger than H. No, yes, I agree. Yes, bigger than H. Actually,

I know somebody a dear friend of mine who was in that neighborhood and they are definitely

bigger than H. Seems like it. Yeah, way bigger than H. They're closer to the end of the alphabet.

Tim did a great job. Yeah, he did. Replicating. I mean, I see his point is like, and by the way,

you know, we talked about this with Maureen on Friday, but the vast majority of people, I think,

believe that Christie Nome knew about this long before the, she's devastated

statement to the media when it broke last week. And she's just now, you know, it's just now coming

out. Some believe she leaked it in order to generate sympathy for her because she's been having

this alleged affair with Cory Lewandesky, which she denies, but everybody has seen them together.

I mean, multiple times. So I don't, whatever. I'm over those two and their weird marriage. I don't

understand what they're doing. Nordowai care. Let's get back to what the president is saying.

He is speaking out about specifically the Iran war and he is basically setting this deadline

of tomorrow night. And by the way, he's going to be speaking momentarily and we're going to be

monitoring it for news and we'll bring it to you. But, um, okay, here's what he said to

is it Fox News's tray yinx tier in sought to be. Let's watch it. This is not just tray yinx. This is

today. Let's listen.

They made a proposal and it's a significant proposal. It's a significant step. It's not good enough,

but it's a very significant step. They have made the negotiating now and they made a very

significant step. We'll see what happens. There's a, there's a bay hand in the background because

it's the Easter egg roll at the White House. And by the way, this just hit two during the break

of Trump speaking to the very thing that we were speaking to, which is why did he use the language

he used? Look at this. Why did he say praise me to a law? I'm going to be doing it right now.

To make a point, you called it. You do speak fluent Trump.

But he got us that talking about it. He got everybody talking about that post.

Well, and your point also was that he wanted to call attention not just to the post that he was

angry or whatever, specifically to the straight. Yep. Open the fucking straight. Yep.

Yeah, filled the animals. It worked. It worked. He did it. So by the time I guess he did not answer

on the all-off thing. He chose to answer the other guy's sort of, have you spoken to the families?

Again, we're going to get more details on that right now. So he's frustrated because it sounds

like, I mean, at every turn, the Iranians say, no. The president reportedly proposed a cease fire

for some, was it 45 days? And Iran already said no. They're not interested in it because they're

enjoying watching him suffer politically. They want that, they don't want to relieve that pressure.

And they also said that they think it would give us time to regroup. I'm not sure we need to

regroup. It's really what we can do what we want to do. It's just a question of whether we have

the political support for it and willpower to do it. President Trump is now saying, we don't need

ground troops. He says, we don't need ground troops. But like Mark Teeson in listening to his

tweets and so on or posts came out and said, we're going to take the straight. There's no way

of doing that without ground troops. So really he's doing a good job of keeping everybody guessing.

We don't know. And so if the Iranians don't come to a deal by tomorrow night,

do we believe Trump that there will be a major escalation on our part?

Well, I mean, it seems impossible like with the straight of our moves right now, it seems

impossible that you could have any deal cease far anything with Iran's stolen control of the

straight of her moves and Trump be able to claim a W. It's not even by Trumpian public relations

standards. It's not possible. It's not feasible economically. None of it makes sense. Maybe that's

what they meant by regrouping because right now gas prices are already getting very hard for

Americans to stomach. It's upsetting allies. September 419, I think, a gallon average.

And do you see my gas station was 520 yesterday? A lot. It was insane. But that's, I mean, all over

the country, California. It's terrible. Yeah, yes. Yeah. Just look at a factor that is. It's about

10 cents more gallon if you go full. Yeah, that's probably true. Either way, four or five dollars.

I always go full serve. It's, it's just crazy. And so anyway, the administration had like

with the taco thing last year, everyone always had Trump always chickens out. That was the joke.

And sometimes, yes, he, what did he say? He looked at the markets and they were getting a little

wobbly or something like that. But it's not, and this isn't an offensive it, but it's not necessarily

chickening out. It's a question of him trying to figure out how far he can push. Yeah. How far he

can push the public? How far he can push other people while still working towards some W,

some way to say this was a success. I agree. And it's the funny thing with Trump is like, I don't

think it's a question of chickening out. He has plenty of guts. That's not an issue.

The turn to the Supreme Court. He stood up and started speaking to the crowd when he just got

shot in the head. Yeah. Like he's not a chicken. Yeah. He's actually quite brave. It's just his

negotiating tactics appear erratic to those of us who don't behave this way. I can't remember

where I heard this discussed, but it was a good point. They were saying that with most, it might

have been the guys at RCP that with most presidents, everything is a build up to if this fails,

you get troops, you get invaded. And with Trump, it's almost like you're invaded. Now we can talk.

Right. Right. Like he kind of goes that way first with some shock and awe military moment.

And then says, all right. Now that I've got your attention, let's chat. Which is how you do

business deals. Like that's it's actually the negotiation strategy again that he wrote about.

It's how you do business deals on a high level if you're Donald Trump. Maybe not everyone does

business deals, but it's out Donald Trump. For sure. Jamie Dimon doesn't go that way, but yeah.

But I mean, real estate world sleazy high level real estate world.

Right. It's not cool. Yeah, exactly. But when you're doing it on the world stage with Greenland,

being a very good example, directionally not insane. Everything that he was saying about Greenland,

directionally not insane. Oh, he persuaded me by the end. It's not a crazy case at all. But

it already because of the process. And this is the question, like it's are the means justifying

the ends and the means of that process alienated like populist conservatives in Europe. And so

the question is were the means of alienating all of those potential allies worth the ends. And

I mean, with Greenland, what is he going to do for the rest of his term? I don't know. But right

now it looks like no, that that was not worth the ends of what we got. I think Europe's been

complaining a lot lately because they're mad about this war. I feel like I have a tough time

feeling sorry for Europe. You know, they've been taking advantage of us for a long, long time.

It's fine. We wanted it that way. You can't really say it's taking advantage when we set it up

that way. We're going to be your military protector. We're your big brother. But while that's

been happening, their values have changed like fundamentally from what they used to be. And

they've we've really had a serious question put out there into the into the world order about

whether we should be their big brother. You know, like if we're just going to continue being

more and more provocative in Europe and elsewhere when it comes to Russia, when it comes to like

getting closer and closer, everybody's part of NATO now that the one thing they know Putin doesn't

want. I'm not defending Putin. I'm just saying the saber rattling like that endangers everybody

and is unnecessary. It's not all Europe. We did that too. And the meantime, the crackdowns on

free speech, the refusal to crack down on rape gangs in the UK because of skin color that is

like I guess you can rape with impunity. If you happen to be black as long as you target a white

girl, can we go after them if they target brown girls? I'm not sure what it's going to take.

My point is simply they are a shadow of their former selves. I don't think a lot of us are

feeling like teary-eyed about you know what stop us stop stop with the your you know, indignant

over the president's behavior. He's finally treating you the way you've been treating us and your

own people for a long, long time. You just do it behind closed doors in a way that feels to you

more civilized, but he does it out in the open. I mean, and it works like he got NATO defense

spending up through different kind of at least he at least it got a promise of it. Right. Yeah,

from his threats. And on the other hand, he now wants NATO to go in and start opening this

rate. If they they are more reliant on that oil and gas, he wants them to go in and do it themselves.

And just the question is not because I agree with you. I mean, if you accept Big Brother's protection

and then you don't want to take the demands, it's not you're not upholding your end of the

bargain. So obviously the bargain is not the bargain is broken. Yeah. And I really think they need

their own military like the post-World War II order. It's it's outdated. We don't need it. We don't

have to be the policeman of the world. Why are why are we like why do we have all these troops in

Germany and South Korea still like is that really necessary? Well, 50,000 troops in the Middle East

is that necessary? Like, unfortunately, the Middle East actually have been good allies to us.

And they too have a bunch of values that we don't necessarily share. But we've been making

headway over there. It was better than the 9-11 days. And now we've gotten them bombed because

Iran is striking out at them, which is a terrible move, but makes sense strategically because it's

it's upset. It's raising the stakes on us. It's raising the pressure points on us. All of our

Middle East allies are looking at Trump. Like, let's wrap it up. Even though they like seeing some

of it, they like seeing Iran get bombed because they're not big fans of the Shiites. But

well, and then Trump, what what if he ends the war and quote unquote ends the war. And they've

got gotten bombed to hell. Many places in the Gulf have. And the straight-of-war moves is still

being controlled by Iran. Yeah. I know. He says, if we leave, it's just going to open up. Like,

says, okay, fine. If that's true, great. Then let's let it be somebody else's problem. Yeah.

But clearly, he was told that's not going to be their case because his messaging changed almost

immediately after that message on Wednesday night. Right. And even if you're a defender of the

American Empire and you want the US to have, you will openly defend, which is the most honest way

to do it, US imperialism. Even if you want that, all of this has practical implications for

our relationships with our allies. And that's the point that I was just trying to make. Like, that

matters. At the end of the day, you can't just, you know, say, we're going to get to a better place.

Follow along with me. Trust me. It's like, well, these countries are getting bombed. We're not

getting bombed. Yeah. I know. Their markets are like Japan so reliant on this type. Like,

this is bad for all the warnings coming out of Europe are dire on the energy crisis heading

their way. Yeah, dire. Yeah. Like they'll feel it. And then we'll feel we're already feeling

a little, but we're going to feel it more a couple months lagged after Europe. And Trump knows that.

So he's got, I mean, he's got a lot to balance here. He's trying to wrap this up. And I have to say,

the Iranians, they won't bend. You know, they're, they are some stubborn mofos over there. And they

see that their best, their navy was never going to defeat our navy. Their air force was never

going to defeat our air force. It's this test of wills. Like how much pain can they take

while they ratchet up the pain on Trump politically? That's, and they, they're good at that.

They're good at, they don't really care that much about the lives of their fighters. So these

IRGCs are like, yeah, go ahead. You know, take them. Well, if it costs you another point politically,

while we drag this out even longer, great. Yeah. So this is, and what we've seen this in the

Middle East, we knew this about them. Like we knew that the Taliban was like this. And Al Qaeda was

like this. The Iraqis were like this. Now the Iranians are like this. Like this is all foreseeable.

I just, the whole thing is very stressful. Let's keep going because there's a lot more to discuss.

And there's no, there's no good answer. Let's spend a minute on what the, on the rescue of the

troops, because that actually is very, very cool. Awesome. So this effort to go in and get our,

our soldier who abandoned his, you know, he ejected out of his plane that was going down. He is a,

a crew member. That's how Trump described it. We got him. My fellow Americans over the past several

hours, the US military pulled off one of the most daring search and rescue ops in US history

for one of our incredible crew member officers who also happens to be a highly respected colonel.

I'm thrilled to let you know he's now safe and sound. He was never truly alone because his

commander in chief secretary of war and chairman of the joint chiefs and fellow war fighters were

monitoring his location 24, seven. And then they say he says that the military sent dozens of aircraft

armed with the most lethal weapons in the world to retrieve him. He sustained injuries, but will be

just fine. And then the details are just quickly. He ejected. He hit an amount in crevice

in a location initially unknown to either Americans trying to rescue him or Iranians trying to

capture him. This is per the New York Times and Axios. He's a weapons system officer. He only had

a pistol to defend himself. He was equipped with a beacon and a secure communications device,

but he restricted the use of his beacon because he was worried about the Iranians detecting it.

Per a senior US official to the times, the airman evaded Iranian forces for more than 24 hours

at one point hiking up a 7,000 foot ridge line. He was shot down in a region of Iran where there

is significant opposition to the Iranian government reports the times. And he may have been able

to rely on locals for shelter, though that's unclear. We don't know. Per a senior administration

official to the times, the CIA initiated a deception campaign to try to confuse Iranian forces.

The agency ultimately found the airman's hiding place. They don't tell us how, which is probably

smart, passing the info on to the Pentagon, which mounted the rescue operation said this official.

The mission involved hundreds of special forces troops and other military personnel, dozens of US

warplanes, helicopters, and cyberspace and other intel capabilities. It was a night mission

that took commandos deep into enemy territory. Navy SEAL Team 6 commandos extracted the officer.

Can you imagine this guy's face when SEAL Team 6 showed up to get him? Right.

Such an awesome moment. Yeah. That's so great. They don't, they don't leave anybody behind. Let me

just ask Dakota Meyer. That's how we got his medal of honor. Just even the fallen going back and

risking his own life to get man after man after man. Per a senior US military official commanders

as commandos converged on the downed airman. They fired their weapons to keep Iranian forces

away from the rescue site, but did not engage in a firefight with the Iranian. So I guess there was

no return fire. Then the transport planes that were going to carry the commandos and the airman

to safety got stuck at a remote base in Iran. They decided to fly in three new planes to extract

all of our guys and gals. Then they blew up the two disabled planes rather than have them fall

into Iranian hands that one other detail per Axios. Before or right after the soldier ejected,

he said the phrase, God is good. They say he is a religious person. Trump,

erroneous, leave reported as power be to God. Close, close to Donald Trump.

He hit the eject button and then said, mega.

But it was God is good. And as for the Israelis, Trump said they helped the IDF help the US

military quote a little bit. So in any event, he's, he's safe. Thank God and added there. Like

that's one thing you can't begrudge anybody who's been conducting this war is just the absolute

belief in the power of US military, the precision, the extraordinary abilities to go in there at night.

I mean, this is Iran. This is Iran. Yeah. It's not Kuwait. It's not friendly territory that could

potentially still be targeted. In the heart of Iran, they found this guy somehow who knows

whether he turned on that beacon or not without losing anyone, not a one, apparently without a

firefight. That's remarkable. And he was missing as far as we know for a long time. This wasn't

like a half an hour. Yeah. This was what probably more than 24 hours. More than 24 hours because it

happened overnight Thursday into Friday, right? I think I'm pretty sure. So that means they have

Iran has time to look for him. The propaganda win from the IRGC's perspective. If you can, I mean,

that he was in such high demand to say the very, very least. So that we could without having

troops on the ground. From what we know of the CIA's infiltration of Iran, it's mostly reliant on

Assad. So it's an interesting point about IDF that there's Israeli intelligence in Iran that

it's often what we rely on for our own intelligence about Iran. So I wonder if that was the

reference to the IDF. Yeah. I don't know. They have their own intelligence. I think they said I

read that it wasn't intel. The little help that he said the IDF provided. I read it. He said

it wasn't intel. So that's all the more impressive from the CIA. And to coordinate with the Pentagon

like that, I mean, you can't take it away from midnight hammer. You can't take it away from

Venezuela. You can't take it away from this. The precision, the expertise, the bravery. That's

incredible from these men and women who risk their own lives for one man. Yeah. I mean, amazing

and for the embarrassment that would be given to the country. No, it would have been a huge

propaganda win for the Iranians to get this guy. They could have made him say anything. It would

have been a nightmare. You know, the Iranians should be glad because one hair on that guy's head

and it would have changed the war sentiment over here. Well, and also this is how conflicts escalate

into I'm not sending ground troops. I'm not sending ground troops. And then oh, we have to send

ground troops. And then we're die. And then more have to be sent. If any of us saw this guy being

used as propaganda on some hostage tape, I think the war would immediately have 90% support. Like,

go get him. We're not allowing that shit. That's how it happens. So thank God for many reasons.

Trump just said that he the rescue mission for the second Air Force officer involved 155 aircraft.

Wow, 155 aircraft. So we do have sky dominance. Unfortunately, they're still able to have some

impact over there, which is how that that jet went down. Two of them went down on Friday.

That's a question. Because the president had said, what did he say, total air dominant

in both days before? So that's still clearly we do is in terms of like their air force. But like,

I mean, they still have some maybe the surface to air missiles. We're not sure what they're using,

but they got that that that jet down with. And then they also got they hit the I think it was

the helicopters, at least one of them that were coming for the jet to help the jet, but known killed

as far as we know, which is remarkable. So Godspeed to that officer and his family. And you know,

it's a minor miracle that he's okay. It really is. So God bless all the troops. We're still rooting

for them. We want it to end. We want them to come home to safety. Let's declare victory. However,

we can and get out of there. Honestly, I don't care. Yeah. Well, because the longer it goes on,

the more opportunities for escalation. Yes. Exactly like this one last week. Yes. It was

heart-stopping for everyone when they heard about this. But part of the reason is because it can

keep leading you down the road. Politically, not going well. But at least now we have some bad news

for the Democrats too. Same as any day. Yeah. But I mean, particularly bad. I'll start with the

bad. This is just one from Harry Anton on the independence. This is one of the reasons why,

not the primary, but one of them that we need to wrap this thing up, ASAP. This is real. It's not

fake polls. It's all the polls are showing this, but here's the latest. It's not five.

If there's one big number from this is that Donald Trump now has the worst net approval rating

among independents of any president ever at this point in term to he is worse than Richard Nixon

who would be going Adios Amigos in a few months back in 1974 in term to look at this minus 45

points worse than George W. Bush at this point in term to the Iraq war was waiting him down at minus

37 and worse than Richard Nixon when of course there were all those impeachment hearings back in

1974 at minus 36 points. He's nearly 10 points worse among independents on his net approval

rating at this point in term to Donald Trump is then Richard Nixon. My goodness gracious.

Richard Nixon got a bad deal. I'm just going to say it for anyone. Okay.

Well, you should do a spout. You should do a true crime style special on that.

I know. I have a lot of thoughts. In fact, I do. I am going to. There's somebody in particular,

I have a mind to book on this. Yeah, when the news cycle quiets down. I think I know who does.

Yeah, I bet you do. Every year we go skiing on president's days sometimes and we wear ski,

we wear these jerseys that I had made that have the president's like various presidents on the back

like their pictures. You make your kids do that too. We've got Reagan. We've got Lincoln and little

thatcher wears Nixon. Coolest kid on the slope. Doug went for Martin Vimburen just to confuse people.

I don't know. Nobody knows. Because he's got their pictures on it. Like you can see that it's one of

those old-timey white hair photos. People are so confused. They see dogs. He's a customer.

Such a waste of money. Who the hell knows who Martin Vimburen did? No one. We're bringing him back.

Good. That's about time. Anyway, all the liftees will say to thatcher. You're your Nixon fan

and thatcher has now gotten to the point where he knows to say it's complicated.

He was framed anyway. That's bad. Those are some bad old numbers there. I'm on the independence

and it makes you a little concerned about 2026 and the Senate. Yeah. Well, the Senate, I don't

think he's getting enough attention. There are races. First of all, the polls that are coming out

of Maine, it's very early and Susan Collins has proven enormously resilient. Dems fielded a,

this is controversial, but I do think grand partners are strong candidates. So do you think Maine

is on the, I agree with you. I think Dan Osborne is a strong candidate. He's independent,

but he's running in Nebraska. I don't think Texas is on the table, but I think there are a couple

of other places where it's, I mean, it's not, it's looking like things are a toss up. Ohio

could possibly be one of those places when you have numbers like this because what I was going to

say is looking at that, when Harry Anton talked about the George W. Bush numbers, that is such a

visceral memory for all of us, the way the culture turned against the Republican party during that

time period. Yep. It doesn't just infect the president. And that's doubly bad for Trump,

because he needs that coalition to come out for him. This has always been the case. Yeah.

It's very hard to do when he's not on the ballot. And it's going to be even harder when he's not

on the ballot and people don't like him. I mean, unless they surprise us and say this will be the

first year Trump's down on the ballot is a good thing. I don't think so. Interesting point, but

I don't think so. It doesn't motivate you need the base to be really, really excited about

Trump. And the Republicans don't have their own independent brand. Right. And if he's telling you

to go support Susan Collins, you need that to work. You need that to make the mom who's busy with

drop off, you need her to say, I'm actually going to go to the polls today. It's important that

there isn't the motivating factor right now, other than they're not Democrats. You know,

it's like there was a motivating factor in 2024 for sure. You know, Trump's agenda was so different

from that of Kamala Harris. I don't regret voting for Trump one bit. I mean, what that one,

she wanted to cut off the body parts of young children as a fucking psycho.

Okay. So at least Trump's got, I disagree with the war, but at least he's got a rationale for it

that he's pursuing that you could like say, okay, I understand sort of. It's kind of been all over

the board. But there's a few reasons, real reasons that have been offered. So the Democrats

have not yet gotten to the place where the where the country's looking at them is like, okay,

you're a reasonable alternative. Right. That's sanity. Right. Now, I will say when I look at like 2024

candidates, I continue to hear Rahm Emanuel say smart things that I find like kind of reasonable.

I realize there's a whole history there. But he is the only Democrat I see that's making some sense,

like he says things that Republicans could get behind. He'll never make it through the primary

process. Anybody who's sensible doesn't on team blue in particular. But here's what they're up

against. We'll stick with Harry Anton. Why not? Stop 58. Look at this net favorability party ahead

at this point, midterm years with the GOP president in 2018, Dems were up by 12 in 2006 on net

favorability, which party like more Dems were ahead by 18 Republicans are actually ahead on

that favorability at this point by five points. So Democrats are just simply put running behind

their previous benchmarks and they'd be running well ahead of them if they want to take back the

United States Senate given that math. To be clear, both parties are wildly unfavorable right now.

However, Democrats are even more unpopular than Republicans. Some of these charts. Yeah. All right.

There's some good news. They hate both parties, but they hate the Dems a little more. That's

amazing, by the way, right? We started a hard that no one likes. Trump is the most polarizing

figure in modern politics, other than George W. Bush. And he is now on W. Bush levels of

popularity. And Democrats are so five points below. And when I checked RCP last, their averages

compared to the 2018 midterms where Dems had that blue tsunami. I think it was even Harry Anton

that called it that right now. Republicans are, it's not as bad as it was then. So the margin

is still not as strong for Democrats as it was when they had their blue tsunami year. And I think

some of that is hangover from 2024 because not all of them have figured out how to talk like

Rahm Emanuel on culture questions. They're crazy. All I think about when I think about

the Democrats is those very unattractive people in Minneapolis. That's when I think Democrat.

That's what I think. I think beautiful. I think them. And I think crazy Alissa Slotkin like

lecturing Pete Hegseth. Like, I know, I know you've done your genuine flexion. That's mug

arrogant. I'm better than you. I look down my nose on you, even though you've done three tours

of duty. Like F you. I like that to me. I could never vote for it. Never. I mean, honestly,

Trump could drop a nuke. And I still vote Republican over those people because they want to have

any voter. In some ways, I really am. But honestly, they, what they want to do is nuke our own

country. You know, it's like the open border that what they're doing to children, all that stuff

is still they would do it all if put back in power. And I think most Republicans know that,

which is why we have that sound bite from Harry Anton. And here's a little bit more from him

on how the Democrats own voters feel about them in sought six. You might say, okay, well, at least

dams like Democrats, not the case. Look at this. The majority of Democrats are independent

to lean Democrats. Look at this. 55% say no congressional Democrats do not have the right

priorities. And then you just see a minority, 45% of Democrats say that congressional Democrats

have the right priorities. This to me just jumps out of the screen because it screams primary

challenges all over the map. And it says that even if Democrats don't like Donald Trump,

they don't like their own party either when it comes to Congress. And overall, I mean,

my goodness gracious. The bottom has fallen out. The bottom is fallen out. Minus four points.

That is Democrats. Democrats own net approval of their own congressional leaders. Even Democrats

don't like their own leaders when it comes to Congress. And overall, of course, the numbers are

just absolutely awful. So Democrat and Democrat crime. Absolutely. This to me screams again,

primary challenges across the map. And it screams to me, hey, when it comes to those next leadership

elections, maybe something might be chosen. Not just the leadership elections, that's reflecting

just how loathsome most of these Democrats are, especially the ones in Congress.

It's so it's such a mess for Democrats for a couple of reasons. First of all, those are tea party

level numbers. And there was a poll that came out last July that showed it almost exactly mirroring

tea party era for Republicans. And what that means to Harry Anton's point is primary challenges.

We're already starting to see that mostly it's falling along the Israel line for Democrats,

which is interesting because a lot of their lack of appeal to average Americans isn't just about

that. I mean, it might be some of that. If you're kind of an independent leaning Democrat,

people don't agree with them on their gender, sex and gender policy. And they don't agree with

them on the border. And they have not come up with any suitable answers for the independent

leaning Democrats on either of those questions. They've tried and then gotten shouted down in their

own staffers have quit. And like in the case of Seth molten and just had to walk it back Gavin Newsom,

had to walk it back so so weak. It's a litmus test for voters. And just in the same way they see

Israel as a litmus test, they want to know that you are, you know, being honest with them. And if

you are still saying that men can become women, if you are still not coming up with an answer,

what is your policy for the border? They can never answer that question in a way that is satisfactory.

Rahm Emanuel did. He said I would leave President Trump's border policies in place. Not on deportation,

but on the border. He said I'd leave in place. And he actually was just in the news last week saying

Israel has too much influence over American domestic policy. Interesting. I know. Very interesting

from Rahm Emanuel. And on top of that, the the border situation like Joe Biden, the last year of

his presidency, he said, Oh, you have to do this with legislation. This can't be done with EOs.

Then he does it with EOs around like June of 2024, right? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, Biden. Yeah.

Yeah. And that is the only reason he could get away with that because they knew they had a tough

election coming. Of course. We all knew. Right. And now they can't go back to it. And that's why

his policy was such a disaster in the first place because they were coasting on the abolish ice

vibes of Trump 1.0. Yeah. And then he felt like Biden had permission to just literally open the

border. I know. It would be more humane. Yeah. Until he didn't. And that's about to happen again

because nobody has a plan. I guess except for Rahm Emanuel. I know. It would be more humane. Tell

it to Sheridan Gorman. Yeah, exactly. It wasn't more humane. You just made sure a whole bunch of

Americans got killed by illegals. It's disgusting. What Joe Biden did. And Trump, yes, he did

one fig leaf in June to try to make him himself look a little better. And then Trump really did close

up the border. Look, I, I would like there to be an era in which we have some sane Democrats

who can make it into like the real contest and be seriously considered so that the risks are not

that great. You know, so it's not like if Trump had lost, I really do feel like the country

would have been, I don't want to say it would be lost. That's too dramatic. But it would be changed

forever. It already was thanks to Joe Biden. Like we're never going to get those 10 million

plus illegals out. Look what happened. We just tried to get one million out by having, you know,

this more aggressive immigration deportation policy come to major American cities. It caused

absolute chaos. And that was actually the beginning of Trump's falling poll numbers because people

didn't like to see it. The media, of course, misrepresented it. And he had to back off. And now he's

just doing worst first. But even that is going to be a real challenge. We're not going to have

those 10 million, those telling million are here to stay. And the Supreme Court is going to rule

that their anchor babies give them the, you know, the babies the right to citizenship and that

they can stay here. We can't have another Democrat in the White House until that whole thing

is reversed somehow. We've, we've amended the 14th amendment to make clear that birthright

citizenship is not what they say it is. We've built a wall. We've imposed e-verify so that these

people self-deport because they literally cannot get jobs. Every employer will figure out whether

they are illegal until them know or they face massive penalties. There's, there are ways.

Trump's not unleashing those ways. I know a lot of hardcore Republicans who really want e-verify

across the nation. He won't do it. He's, you know, from the hotel industry and he's like agriculture.

And these are a lot of his donors who use the illegals. They, they say that they have to,

that's bullshit. They don't have to. Anyway, these are, these are deal breakers. And the Democrats

will make those problems worse again. Reminding young people. This actually is a problem you need

to focus on just because you had Trump in the office for four years. Doesn't mean it's been

solved forever. Anyway, hopefully that's already being factored into those hairy enter numbers.

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President Trump and his top national security advisors are briefing the public about the

dramatic rescue of a crew member behind animated lines. We are monitoring it and we'll bring you the

news as we get it. Emily Doshinsky is back with me. And if you're wondering why we cannot vote

Democrat and why we should believe those Harry and to numbers, I'm going to show you a proof.

Saate Megan Rapinoe.

This committee is framing it as based in science, which it's not. And this will ultimately just

prevent people from competing within the women's category that they feel like have an unfair

advantage. It's just really hateful. It's like there's been so few athletes that are trans

or competing as trans and it's like so blatant on its face. It's just a total act like acquiescence

to the Trump administration and to really right wing conservative politics. That really is just

bringing down so much hate against such a small person and young people who are just trying to

live their life. So it's just horrible. And I'm just sick and to buy it really.

She's very upset about the IOC, the Olympic Committee, international,

making it clear that biological men will no longer be permitted to compete in women's sports.

And it's because it just only happens to such a small group of girls that they should just

suck it up and suffer. They should lose their gold medals. They should take the beating in the face

by a man in the boxing ring and quit all the whining like me. Megan Rapinoe sitting

with my millions and my endorsements having made it to the top that you can hear the sound of the

ladder being pulled up Emily. That's infuriating because it's such an egregious moving of the

goalposts. Like this, the line was it's fine. It's not a real advantage. And now the line is,

oh, it might be a real advantage, but you're still going to have to put up with it.

It's just it's just so few. Right. Don't worry about it. It's just a couple of people. But again,

before it was, there's no medical, scientific, like we were listening to that for however many years.

And I remember interviewing one of the Connecticut track girls years ago. It was probably like 2020.

And asking, you know, how is this affecting? Because there were two, this year, there were two men

who were competing in the women's boys who were competing in the women's. We had done nothing to

handle their testosterone or at all. Yeah, exactly. And I remember asking, is it just like one or two

that'll upset the scholarship system, right? And the answer I got was yes. Because of course it does.

Yeah, because I think number one, exactly. And so as soon as you start moving down the ranks in

all of these different matches and statewide or whatever, all it takes is a couple of boys

competing in one state, a small state like Connecticut. That's really all it takes to screw it

up for everybody. Let alone, it's obviously ridiculous on its face. But it is so obnoxious that

after for years saying, it's not a problem. It's not a problem. Voicing this on the public,

then blaming conservatives for saying, oh, hey, we want to talk about this culture war issue.

This is wrong. After you forced us to deal with it. Yeah. Like, give me not the norm. You change the

norm. We objected because this isn't normal. There's nothing. And she talks about a so cavalierly.

I think about the girl. She's never been publicly identified in Lowell, Massachusetts, who was on

the field hockey team and got whacked by a boy in the mouth. So hard. Her teeth got knocked out.

And it wasn't just that girl's horror in the pain and the dentistry she would have to go through.

It was the horror of every girl on the field who was shocked and genuinely disturbed

to see the bloody damage that had been done to their teammate by a boy who had no business

playing field hockey again. Fuck Megan Rapinoe. You know, after Easter, I promised myself

I was going to reign in the swearing. I did. I was feeling very godly, even though we didn't get

the communion. Oh, that's it. Yeah. Maybe that's my problem. Dang. Anyway, shame on you, Megan

Rapinoe. There we go. Shame on you. I don't even Megan Rapinoe is so much less of a threat now

in 2020, whatever year it is, than she was in 2019. I know. It's like, it's all

like, no body, like, no chairs, you pushed this. It worked on the institutions for a couple of

years. And then everybody got wise to it. So you making this argument now, does it still bother

me because it's wrong? It will still probably affect girls in blue states that have to put,

yes, absolutely. It still bothers me. And your story is a great one, the Lowell mass one,

because that's one boy. That's all it took was a swing from one boy. It doesn't her point is

yeah, it's just a few. Doesn't she care? I'd love to see her look that girl in the face and say

like, so what? It's happening so infrequently. It's not an issue. Good. Okay. Tell it to that girl.

I mean, the amount of trauma, like emotional trauma not to mention the physical and having to deal

with that would be truly horrifying. She's not the only reason this woman happens to be married

to the likely Democrat nominee. I think it's fair to say. Her name is Jennifer Newsom. It's not

I've given our boys dolls, even if they tear that off. I've given them dolls to learn that

care and caregiving is not just an activity that's reserved for women, but that it's also an

activity that is a responsibility of men. What I've done with both my daughters and my sons is

if I'm reading a book and the protagonist is a male, I just changed the heat of a sheep.

And it just normalizes for my sons in particular. It's not even I don't even just do it for my

girls. I do it for my sons because I want them to see that women can be the center of a story,

that women matter, that women are interesting. At the end of the day, we're all kind of like in this

place in the history maybe where we're recognizing what it is to ultimately deconstruct all these

gender roles and ultimately be human. That's exciting to me.

Oh my God. That was great. She lives in California. She wasn't San Francisco.

Is she having difficulty finding books in which female protagonists are present?

Like she should spend a walk a mile in my shoes on the Upper West Side of Manhattan.

They're everywhere. That's all you can find. They got rid of all the books where their

males of the protagonists. Too many women. First of all, I'm sick of hearing about women.

They're tired. They all sound like that. And the notion that you have to teach boys

how to treat women well by giving them dolls. Otherwise, they won't be caretakers. What are you

talking about? Boys learn about caretaking from a loving mother who was caretaking to them.

You fool. It's not from giving them a fucking doll. Again, a doll. A doll. Genoa.

This stuff also has real consequences for boys. It's hilarious to hear it. But when it translates

into policy, I mean, Kristinaov sometimes wrote a whole book about this called War against Boys.

It was my college internship was helping on the re-release of that book. And you go through it

over and over again. You're like, yes, recess completely has been like clipped up. You have

less recess now. There are all kinds of little policies on the state level that have made boys

hate school. And some of it is straight because of that mentality, which we've been going through

for how many years now, decades now. And it's boys are having worse outcomes. Why? Because you're

feminizing their environment. And she's totally talking about boys as though they're still completely

dominant. It's a complete patriarchy out there. We're getting, we have two kids in high school right

now. Our boy is the oldest. Our daughter is a year behind him. And you to look at like the college

admissions rates. You'd much rather be a girl. Oh, yeah. You'd much rather be a girl right now.

It's like she's the 1950s called and they'd like their culture back, Jennifer. Truly. I can't

imagine what these boys are like. And meanwhile, Gavin Newsom is going to come out on the scene and

try to pretend that he's like some badass, like tough guy. Guarantee he's going to be doing some

of the Tim Walls camo shit because they he needs to. He's already got like leftist feminists who

want like a hot whatever. So now he's going to have to telegraph a little bit on a man's man. That's

why he interviewed with Charlie. That's why he interviewed with Steve Bannon. He wants to do some reach out

to Republicans and like most Democrats, he's not going to understand them. And he's going to think

it requires him to wear camo. And he's got this hot mess of a liability on the other side of him,

much like Tim Walls couldn't make us believe that because he was gay, but also his wife.

When you know the the camo, the Tim Walls camo hat, you know what that was for? That was you

tape your tampon under the brand. That's what that was. A lot of people never picked up on that,

but that's what it was for. Is it this what I was just going to ask? Is it his son with Jennifer

Seable Newsom who was a Charlie Kirkless? Yes. Yes. So that's what playing with forcing the dolls on

them will get you exactly like they even listening to themselves. All of the studies show that if

you put little boys and little girls into a toy store. Yes. The boys will naturally go over to the

trucks. Yes. The girls will naturally go over to the dolls. It's not because they're a little

sexist pigs when they come into the world. There are certain things that are prewired in us

genetically. And there's nothing wrong with that. Boys should live lean into their hunter get

to their protector biology. And girls should lean into their caretaking biology. Doesn't mean you

can't do either. But society will teach them that there are other options available to them.

Society will teach them that it's not all killing prey or nurturing a baby. I mean, she,

well, I grew up in the 1970s where things better for women in the 1970s than they are now. No.

Somehow I figured it out, Jennifer. And so did you. She's like not that much younger than I am.

I think she might be around my age, but at least you weren't getting whacked in the face with

field hockey sticks. Yeah. I mean, this is where that stuff starts. Because if you go back to the 80s

and the 90s, this is how a lot of the feminists were talking, is that it was the pathologization.

I don't even know if that's a word of masculinity. Yeah. Treating healthy masculinity, not actual toxic

masculinity as a pathology. Yes. And that's how you end up saying, well, you just have to be feminized.

You must be feminized. All the good men are feminized. Exactly. That's why her husband

crosses his legs the way he does. It's happened to him. He's just a beautiful, beautiful man.

He is good looking. I can't take that away from him. He's too creepy for me. He is like to

American psycho, which he's leaning into. Yes. He does have a Patrick Bateman look about him.

I mean, I think unfortunately people, we end where we began. It's a circle. People like attractive

people. They do well. Attractive people tend to do well. They tend to do better in life. I know.

And people who aren't as polished. So we're going to need somebody over on Team Red who's like

got it together. That's why we should hope for J.B. Pritzker to win over Gavin or just think

with Kamala, give it another role. We accept. Emily, a pleasure, my friend. Thank you. Thank you.

So good to see you. She's going to keep rolling. She's doing the after show in a minute and we'll

continue to monitor that Trump presser among others. Thanks.

Thanks for listening to the Megan Kelly show. No BS, no agenda and no fear.