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Welcome back one and all to The Damage Board.

I'm John at Arola, and coming, I'm hoping very soon,

Senator Nina Turner is going to be joining us.

I think we're having a little bit of like a tech problem.

So we're going to get that sorted out, and the Senator's going to be here.

And we've got so many great stories, not just in general,

not just for me to comment on.

Nobody cares about that, but they're so well placed for

an internal perspective.

So we're very excited that we'll be having her on.

There's just so much discussed.

Not only some updates on Iran, we do still have that.

It's bad times, by the way, for members of the audience

that aren't interested in foreign policy, because it's just going to be

a thing that we cover.

But not going on when it comes to Iran in terms of, again,

what seems like the rush to put boots on the ground.

What Israel is saying publicly versus privately about whether the Iranian people should rise up.

That's terrible.

And then we have Tulsi Gabbard being grilled by John Ossoff and others yesterday,

and demonstrating who and what she truly is.

And so that's going to be revelatory as well.

We've got updates on the democratic primaries that are going on around the country and

all the different moneyed interests that are getting involved in that.

We're going to be talking about the Texas primary once again, Donald Trump still has

not chimed in.

And in fact, his cowardness has put it so now, even if he does weigh in,

it won't have nearly as much of the effect that it would have previously.

I mean, there's just so much fascinating stuff.

We're talking about Mark Wayne Mullin obviously.

And Fox News getting increasingly worried about what's going on with the economy.

And that's just the first hour in the aftermath.

We've got a Harrietan revealing what seems at first to be the craziest poll result you'll

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But we have some thoughts about that and lots of other stuff that we will get into.

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And with all that said, why don't we jump into this?

The Iranian regime has filled the sky and used, if you put boots on the ground in Iran,

it will be another V&L.

Are you afraid of that?

No.

I'm not afraid of, I'm really not afraid of anything.

Yeah, so yet another thing that in theory, we should clip out, put into some ads that

year from now when I don't know 500 soldiers have died, 2,000 soldiers have died, 15,000

soldiers have died because I'm not, I'm not worried about not afraid of anything.

I can barely even work up the energy to answer this question.

I'm not afraid.

I mean, I'm not going to die.

Remember, I avoided serving in the military, I'm not going to happen to me.

But he should be worried about it because Iran is, it's kind of like in my mind, the prospect

of invading Iran, putting boots on the ground and really moving in and trying to take out

the regime.

And the only way that you possibly could, feels like the worst case scenario of both Iraq and

Afghanistan, that it's this rugged mountainous terrain.

And it's also got these dense urban areas.

It also is absolutely massive and has a massive population and has a massive military.

I know, I know, he's obliterated everything they got know this, they got no communications,

they got no nothing.

Yeah, they have soldiers though.

And the soldiers have guns that hypothetically they can be pointed at our soldiers.

Now thankfully, as of right now, they're not, it is very, very difficult for Iran to

kill our soldiers.

The way that the chess board is set up right now, but because we have the world's dumbest

chess player in charge, and his lieutenants are probably second, third and fourth dumbest

in the world.

He wants to move all of our pieces to within shooting range.

And that's what I'm worried about.

And the fact that he's not worried does not make me feel better to hear that sort of

comment from a guy who said that his own personal Vietnam was avoiding STDs or whatever.

My God, is that heartless and callous and I hope the family members of the soldiers

that are headed over the right now are listening because this is the stance of the guy who's

going to determine whether your kids live or die, 58,000 American soldiers died in Vietnam

against potentially a far less capable military opponent.

So we'll see, the issue is that right now he is considering putting thousands of US troops

within firing distance on the ground, whether they're talking about like taking car

gailand or whatever.

They're talking about taking the southern coast, I guess, the northern coast abutting

the straight of Hormuz to stop them from firing missiles from there.

But all of that again is boots on the ground.

And yeah, we don't know which it's going to be, but both could potentially be devastating.

Maybe everything will work out.

Maybe there's no reason to be afraid.

But nothing that I've seen so far is giving me that sort of confidence.

And when you're considering doing something that seems so significant and something that

the American people are already, they have been very, very clear, they have no interest

in.

Notice by the way that when he addresses that, not even worried about it.

The fact that like five to one, the American people are against putting a single soldier

on the ground in Iran doesn't even enter into it.

It's not even a consideration.

The fact that far more Republicans than not are not interested, it's not even a consideration.

He does not act like a man, not only we acknowledge this when we were talking with Keith Edwards

earlier.

He's not acting like a man who's worried about free and fair elections.

But also notably, he's not acting like a man who exists in a functioning democracy.

And like I'm not even saying that that would then determine what he does.

Because certainly we've lived through a lot of presidents who've been willing to do whatever

the hell they want, public opinion be damned.

But in theory, they would at least try to make the case.

He's not making any case, except I suppose the case that he is utterly indifferent to

whether our soldiers live and die, whether our economy lives or dies.

That's not again, that's not how you run a conflict like this.

If you believe that you are responsive either now or will be in the future to the people,

whether in your party or not.

That's how he's acting.

Now I want to turn to one of the most grotesque developments in this where I don't know if anything

is really going to eclipse us slaughtering all of those Iranian school girls.

And then still up until when we're broadcasting this, never acknowledging it, never taking

responsibility, let alone apologizing, nothing.

Acting as if the lives of those soldiers are as fundamentally irrelevant as the lives of

the soldiers, the girls as the soldiers that we're going to put on the ground.

That's how we've acted, but consider this, Israel is working to raise their own army inside

of Iran.

Obviously, Israel does not want to put their soldiers on the ground.

That's why they get the US to fight their wars.

But Donald Trump is at least a little bit hesitant about doing that.

And so they've got another plan, which is, and they've been pushing for this for a long

time.

And occasionally, Donald Trump has done the same thing.

They're like, people of Iran now is the time, rise up, cast off your shackles.

Throw aside those who have suppressed you.

Take over your country and finally be free, which, you know, zoomed out from a thousand

miles, that's inspirational.

And I would love it for that to happen and for that to work.

That would be great.

My God, think about what an amazing thing it would be for the world.

If the Iranian people finally were once again allowed to choose their own leadership,

determine the path of their own society, their own freedoms, all of that.

That would be great.

The issue is that it doesn't seem like that is going to happen.

Not the rising up, that remains to be seen.

Although I think that's pretty unlikely too, because more and more Iranians, I think,

are understandably getting more enraged at the US and Israel than they are in Iran,

considering were the ones killing them right now.

But let's say that they hypothetically do rise up.

It really seems like they will be utterly annihilated, wiped out.

And that is not just my ignorant, non-expert opinion.

That's the opinion of Israel, actually.

They believe that that is what would happen.

Senior Israeli officials told US diplomats that Iranian protesters will quote,

get slaughtered if they take to the streets against their government.

Even as Israel publicly calls for popular uprising.

Now to be clear, they know, they know that the Iranians will die.

They know that they will be wiped out in the thousands, the tens of thousands,

the hundreds of thousands, whatever it is.

If there's an uprising, it will be put down with even more brutal force than we saw

at the beginning of this year and in past, the protests that we saw a couple of years

ago as well.

They know that, but they're telling them to rise up anyway.

Because they don't care about their lives, it serves a purpose to them, I suppose.

And certainly in terms of the rhetoric, the PR, it looks good, right?

If Israel's like, oh yeah, no, we care about the Iranian people, our heart breaks for

them, we just want them to be free, so they should just rise up and then die in massive

numbers.

And if that happens, by the way, then Israel and the US can say, well, look, the regime

is wiping out their own people.

I guess we really do have to put boots on the ground.

I guess we really do need to invade.

And so that is a sacrifice that Israel seems fully willing to make and let me just guess.

This is speculation on my part.

But I would gather that if Israeli intelligence has come to the conclusion that the Iranian

people would be murdered on mass, if they were to rise up, I have a feeling that our intelligence

services have probably come to a similar conclusion.

And yet Donald Trump occasionally does still say they should rise up.

Now you'll notice that since he started this war, he's talking about that much less

because fundamentally this was never about the Iranian people.

He doesn't give one a Iota of a damn about them, but it is possible that he will join

in with that call again.

And if they rise up, which seems unlikely, many will die.

And they won't die for any good of their own part.

It's going to be to advance the interests of the Israelis and our own grotesque government.

Well anyway, this is an awkward point to bring in our guest.

But Senator Nina Turner is here.

I apologize to bring you in as I'm yelling at the camera, Nina, but it's a pleasure

as always to have you here.

Here we're talking about some of the developments with our war with Iran, both that Donald

Trump really does seem to be cruising towards putting boots on the ground and the revelation

that the Israelis both know a popular uprising would be put down with massive force, but

they're still calling for it anyway.

This is your first chance on our program to weigh in on this war.

What are you making?

Well, thanks, Jonathan.

It's good to be back with the dragon squad.

I mean, this is a man who ran on a full-poppy list, and he said that he was not into forever

wars.

I'm old enough to remember when he criticized President Barack Obama rightfully, so I'm basically

told Republicans don't fall for the banana and just held pipe.

I'm prayer phrasing him, but when it came to Iran and war and putting boots on the ground,

it is very unfortunate, and that is putting it lightly, that this president is looking

the American people in their faces and just lying straight through his teeth when it comes

to him being the one that wouldn't be in the forever wars.

He criticized even President Biden when it came to what was happening in the Gaza.

And that was a sell-in point for many Americans, but especially Maya, who thought that he truly

was going to put America first.

He's making America more vulnerable, and this is a war that did not have to happen.

I know John they're saying, it's not technically a war because they're not boots on the ground.

We don't need to solve penalties.

This is a war, and there will be boots on the ground.

And some Americans have already died, the Iranian people, Iranian people, excuse me, are

suffering.

The casualties was happening in Lebanon, but just all over, spending our money, not to

protect our domestic tranquility, but to get us into a war that is not even our war.

Iran was not an imminent threat at the time that the president did what he did.

They are doing this on behalf of the right-wing state of Israel, and there's going to be a lot

of casualties, not just right now, but the ripple effect into the future.

My last point on this is that I am hoping that the American people fully understand what

is happening here, no matter what side of the political spectrum they may rock on on

other issues.

But you cannot war your way to peace, number one, number two, to be deceitful in this

way should cause anxiety for all Americans, because now, John, we're not talking about

the differences between Medicare for all or peace and the minimum wage.

All of those things are extraordinarily serious and important, but we're talking about sending

other people's children and grandchildren and relatives to fight the war for another

country that will not only hurt us as Americans who are living today, will have a ripple effect

to other generations, even though it's not unborn, but the impact that it is having on the

Iranian people or Iranian people, Lebanon, all of this, John, the man he just totally

lied to us, and then the gentleman who just was dying, I can't think of his name right

now.

He lost his wife, you know, out there telling the truth, and the president had the pure

unadulterated gall to call this man weak, a man who served in the military, a man who lost

his wife, who was herself in the military, and you calling him weak for telling the truth.

The American people are going to have to stand up and push back against his job, and I'm

really nervous, because I don't think that the Democrats, even if they do win back the

House and or the Senate, I don't think they ready, I really don't, because we got a lot

of war hawks on the Democratic side of the ledger as well, but this is shameful.

Yeah, I don't think they're ready in general, and also I don't see why I don't, I'm not

going to get super fired up that they're going to do something about this war because

they're not right now.

That's right.

They don't even act like they actually have to do anything, they just have to pretend

that they would, and they're not really doing that.

That's right.

Exactly.

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You're evading a question because to provide a candid response to the committee would contradict

a statement from the White House.

Was it the assessment of the intelligence community that there was a quote, imminent nuclear threat

posed by the Iranian regime, yes or no?

Senator, the only person who can determine in what is and is not an imminent threat is

the president.

False, this is the worldwide, this is the worldwide threat hearing where you present

to Congress, national intelligence, timely objective and independent of political considerations.

So that is Senator John Ossoff, grilling Tulsi Gabbard, who I will just remind everyone,

is not just like Trump's buddy.

She's not just supposed to like, you get intelligence for Trump, and that's your only

obligation.

In fact, as John Ossoff repeatedly points out, in her own opening remarks, Tulsi Gabbard

made clear what is literally true by statute for her position, is that the intelligence

that she provides is not supposed to be biased by political considerations.

And yet as he rightly points out, she knows exactly what our intelligence agency said

about Iran and whether they posed any threat, let alone an imminent one, but she refuses

to say it 100% because of political considerations.

The undying loyalty that she has to Donald Trump, that is why she refuses to say what the

intelligence services have actually said, which is unfortunate regardless of who she is.

But it's like there's extra layers of irony that one, she is now serving a regime that

purported to be anti-war, anti-foreign adventures, anti-all of that.

But also that she more than almost anyone else in the last 10 to 20 years has portrayed

herself as endlessly critical of this sort of needless foreign adventures.

And now she finds herself as the unquestioning tool of exactly those sorts of adventures.

And we're going to get to just a little bit more of the grilling, then we'll discuss,

take a look at this.

You've stated today that the intelligence community's assessment is that Iran's nuclear enrichment

program was obliterated, and that, quote, there had been no efforts since then to try

to rebuild their enrichment capability.

Was it the intelligence community's assessment that nevertheless, despite this obliteration,

there was a quote, imminent nuclear threat posed by the Iranian regime, yes or no?

It is not the intelligence community's responsibility to determine what is and is not an imminent threat.

Okay.

Here's the problem.

No, it is precisely your responsibility.

To determine what constitutes a threat to the United States.

This is the worldwide threats hearing.

And that really should not have to be made clear.

Telsi Gabbard, that is an insanely vapid thing that she's saying.

It's not, we're not, we're not determined threats.

It's only the president's term threat.

No, the president is the one who determines what we do about the intelligence.

And it's not even supposed to be just the president.

He's not, so he's the commander in chief.

He's not supposed to be the only one deciding what wars we go to.

But even if we forget about the Constitution, and we just do what presidents have done

for the last 50, 60 years or so, and say that he has unilateral control of the military,

he's not the, you think Trump is going through the raw data?

He's talking to sources?

No, it's the intelligence agencies that are supposed to determine that and importantly,

and I'll go to Nina in just a sec.

She will not say that the intelligence determined that they're not a threat.

Now because it's not true, I guarantee that's what they said.

She just can't say it because that would look destroyed to Donald Trump and she'd probably

be fired.

But you'll know, she's also not just saying what he wants her to say, which is that they

were threat.

She's been willing to be dishonest in the past, but she knows that if she says that on

the record now, it will come back to bite her in the ass and she might well face perjury

charges because she knows that it would be a lie to say that.

And so instead, it's just, well, you know, it's just, who's to say what's the threat?

I mean, I guess just Trump, we have, we have the CIA, we have the NSA, we have the NRO,

we have all these intelligence agencies, but it's honestly just wasted money because

at the end of the day, it's all up to Donald freaking Trump to determine whether a run

is about to nuke Paris or whatever.

Nina, that is so ridiculous and especially coming out of a person that many people in

this audience, not that many years ago, probably had a good amount of admiration for.

What do you think?

Yes, John, of all the things that the president is doing, you know, he's responsible for his

actions.

Ultimately, we know that the book stops with him.

You outlined it very clearly.

The former Congresswoman, you know, now the person in the intelligence community for

him, she wants to keep her job.

So we all know that if you work for a principal and you're not ready to be fired or quit,

if you lack ovarian audacity or in test to no fortitude, you will lie, lie, cover, lie,

cover, lie, cover, lie.

It is spectacularly disappointing because I had the opportunity to get the note then

Congresswoman Tossi Gabbard on Senator Sanders campaigns.

And then when she herself ran for president in 2020 and we do know she was absolutely

on the right side of these issues, no forever war.

She talked about how constant war not only hurts the men, the women, the people who are

in the military, the people who love them, the people who provide the ancillary supports

around them because she herself is an officer.

She's a military person and she always spoke with such art, field, integrity about the

lives of service people, which is one of the reasons that she used for her position

on war and particularly forever wars, but also how we are being deprived on the domestic

tranquility side of the ledger when we're spending this kind of money, notwithstanding the

loss of life, the loss of, you know, limbs, the like, everybody does have the thing that

we die to have sustained a loss.

So I am spectacularly disappointed because she's certainly somebody that I had gotten

a chance to get to know.

And I'm not mad like some people are that she found her people so to speak.

You know, maybe this is where she always wanted to be and it's her choice to do so.

What I am disappointed about John and Dragon Squad is her lack of integrity when it comes

to something that she held so dear to her heart.

There should be a level for all of us that we don't cross.

And her to cross over in this way on an issue that was her issue, I don't even know what

to say, John.

I just, this is sad, this is very sad.

Yeah.

By the way, I've never heard the ovarian audacity I like that, that's good, that's good.

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Right now A-PAC is openly celebrating after the fact that the money they flooded into

number, a number of democratic primaries resulted in good progressive candidates being defeated,

including an Illinois special election this week.

So they put out this statement in response to the Justice Democrats saying life looks pretty

good.

Members in North Carolina and Illinois rejected all seven far left would be squad members

who centered their campaigns on attacking Israel in demonizing pro-Israel Americans.

Being pro-Israel is good policy and good politics.

Hey, A-PAC, would you like to cite a poll on that or do you not actually care because

the poll you'd be citing references what Americans think and you don't give one god damn what

Americans think about anything.

What happens domestically?

What happens internationally?

Because you're not here to deal with Americans, you're here to push the agenda before

in country.

So I guess you can probably skip the time looking up the polls.

By the way, the idea that all of these candidates they beat centred being anti is no, no, that's

not at all what they were about.

They just didn't think that we should unquestioningly shower billions of dollars on Israel regardless

of what they do who they kill all of that.

And that means that regardless of whatever else they might do, they cannot be allowed to

get into office.

It doesn't matter how much they represent their potential constituents.

Again, I'm talking about the constituents in North Carolina and Illinois.

A-PAC is concerned with how they would represent the constituency inside government buildings

in Israel.

So anyway, they were able to defeat in the case that I'm most concerned about is friend

of the show cat Abakizale, they were able to defeat her now.

She finished second to Daniel Biss, who also has been more critical of Israel than A-PAC

would prefer, I suppose, not as much as cat Abakizale.

So again, they're declaring victory here.

But I want to get to Nina because obviously this is not the first election that A-PAC

and also by the way, A-PAC is not the only lobby that we should be concerned about crypto

money and all of that sort of money has been flooding into.

They continue to basically get to decide which candidates we have, even as the positions

they prefer become wildly unpopular, particularly in the Democratic Party.

It kind of feels to me like maybe the Democratic Party could take a look at this and say, hey,

maybe this isn't actually good for us, and we should do something about it.

And there are things they could do, Nina, but what do you make of all this?

I mean, John, I'm telling you something, I had a boss that would say if your hair is on fire,

act like your hair is on fire, just sit back and act like everything is okay.

This is not the first race as we know, and this membership knows, this network knows that

my race in 21 and 22 was the first test case for how these Israeli first hacks are

comporting themselves all across the country in 21 and also in 22, and then they amped it up

to go after Congress members, Bowman and Bush, and they're building on that same playbook

to flood the zone all over the country even so much.

So John, to your point about what the American people want, even so much so,

that they got to change the names of these packs so that people don't know that Israel's

firsters are controlling them because they have looked at the data, John, and they do know that

the majority of the American people do not like this. The candidates that they claim they defeated

were American firsters. And the last time I checked that those are offices they are running for to

support and carry out the will of the constituents of the United States of America in their respective

districts and in their respective states. The reason why the Democratic Party though

is ill-equipped to deal with this because they are compromised to, they hear me

drag it's why they are compromised. Let's look at some of the special caucuses within the Congress,

the Congressional Black Caucus bought and sold, the Asian Caucus bought and sold, the Hispanic

Caucus bought and sold, the Congressional Congressional Caucus for the love of God bought and sold.

And John, your point, let me put extra emphasis, we're talking about all dark money groups. So we

got AI all up in the mix as well, not just Israeli first groups, but APAC. You got the crypto,

you got the military industrial complex, all of these dark money special interest groups where

they want to put the American people last. But what is really clear about the Israeli first groups

is that they making it known that they want to send people to Congress who would sacrifice Americans

for a foreign government. That should outrage every single American whether you all the way on the

mega side, mega side, or whether you are in the middle or whether you are a leftist. We all should

be pushing for American citizens to be represented and not allow any outside group to determine who

gets the opportunity to represent the people of those respective dishes. This is voter suppression,

John, this is another example voter suppression. But the reason why leader Hakeem Jeffrey did no

earthly good on this Senator Schumer, no earthly good on this, the congressional press progress

of caucus, no earthly good on this is because they are compromised. And for the congressional

progressive caucus in particular, far too many of their members are compromised on this issue.

So I'm calling on all Americans who believe in America first, because I'm rocking with America

first on this, this puts America last. And our latest iteration that again is going to have

generational ripple effect is the war that is going on right now. Yeah, yeah, then already wildly

unpopular, the positions back wildly unpopular, but the Democratic Party just what name so they

can't see anything. No, because they don't have the money too. And I'm sorry, there's one more

thing, the Democrats are compromised and the DNC has been the biggest disappointment. This new chairman

I thought was going to rock a different way, but he's not rocking a different way. They could

reject dark money and primaries all together. Now, in Illinois, the progressives didn't do themselves

any favors. Now, I am never one to tell anybody not to run or to get out of a race,

but we have to be more strategic, especially in the face of an APEC that is fought in this in our

face. It should be illegal what they're doing because we got all the receipts. They're basically

putting it all up in our face about how they are only going to push and support and flood the zone

for candidates who would put Israel above the United States of America. That's not foreign

interference in American election. I don't know what is. And hopefully, there will come a time

that somebody will take this up legally. But in Illinois, the progressives are going to have to

step back. And I had a really great conversation with the executive director of the justice dams.

And I don't want them to get discouraged and take this to heart in terms of APEC,

trying to tease them and egg them on. They need to keep on pressing on and other groups that

are pressing on for a good government, for democracy, for humanitarian type policies. However,

we need those types of groups, John, PDA, Justice Democrats, Roots Action, our Revolution,

Working Families Party. Even the Greens at this point, we need these groups to come together

and be very strategic about who they support and what issues they promote and make sure we don't

get entangled in what happened in Illinois. John, you know, the APEC even supported a young lady

that was running. And she said, hey, I ain't getting out the race. She was a progress,

she was a progressives. There were several progressives, but they supported her

in order to dilute the power of the progressive vote. I mean, they slick, they get slick with this stuff.

Yeah, no, 100%. Yeah, no, we need to be, I think back to Pete Buttigieg's pulling out of the

Democratic primary to give a little bit of a boost to Joe Biden. Like, they're willing to do it.

Yeah, no, it's tough, but we got to be willing to do it too. So I agree with you.

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And nobody knew they had him and all this bad stuff came out about him. He's so well,

he's beyond whoa. So you're going to stay out of the the primary then packs in corn and

I'm not going to say no, I want to do something, but the main thing I have to do is find out

who's going to get the Save America Act approved. Okay, so there's a lot in that video that

absolutely despise the stupid and sipping grin on Kilmead's face right there. Yeah, he's binary.

The hell are you talking about James Telleriko's not non-binary? What a ridiculous thing to say.

When Trump is like, he insulted Jesus and Kilmead's like, yeah, good point, sir, sir.

I wonder if Kilmead was thinking about the time that Donald Trump banged a porn star shortly

after his wife gave birth to one of their kids. Yeah, Telleriko is really insulting Jesus.

Trump should really lecture him more on Christianity. Anyway, all of that's ridiculous,

but let's set that aside because the most ridiculous thing is, so sir, sir, are you going to do something

or are you going to get in the primary? Yeah, yeah, I want to do something. You think maybe you

should do it because the primary already happened. We're now weeks into the runoff and it's not

just like a matter of days. We're actually now past the point where a candidate can drop off

and no longer be on the ballot, which means that even if Donald Trump does

finally grow a cajone and actually endorse someone, the other person is still going to be on

the ballot even if they were to want to drop out. And so Donald Trump is so anxious and nervous.

And he just looked, he is projecting to me massive weakness. If he thought that his endorsement

carried the weight that he pretends to think that it does, he would have done it a long time ago

and he would have chosen one of them. I don't even care if it's Kornin or if it's Paxin, he would

have chosen one of them. He didn't do that because he doesn't have confidence that his endorsement

will actually win if that's why he's just dragging it out and dragging it out and dragging it out.

And by the way, he's getting, I guess, a little bit of what he wants in that John Kornin

after years and years and years of pretending to think that the filibuster is the most sacred thing

in the Senate and it can never be tampered with. Donald Trump tells him, hey, you want to destroy

the filibuster to give me the save act? Maybe I'll endorse someone. Kornin's like, yes, sir,

of course, sir, forget all of that filibuster stuff. And so anyway, now James Kornin is pretending

that he doesn't care about the endorsement, but he already sold out his principles in thus far

an unsuccessful attempt to get it. And the reason all of them are so anxious is that Talleriko,

who is not the radical they pretend to think he is, right now has a tiny lead over both Kornin

and Paxton. And so they're getting desperate, Nina. And it's leading Ted Cruz to pretend that

Talleriko has called for banning barbecue or whatever, which of course he has not done.

Ted Cruz notably has repeatedly tried to outlaw pornography in Texas or whatever,

despite apparently historically being a big fan of it according to his college roommate.

And so who really is the radical in Texas politics? That's my question, Nina.

But what do you make of this primary? And what do you think about Talleriko's chances?

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story. And I'm telling you,

President Donald J. Trump has a whole host of good stories that he just pulls out

to suit his needs. You are absolutely right, John. If the president was comfortable,

then he would pick one or the two, make a decision and ask the other person to sit out as he always

does or bully somebody to sit out and ride this thing on home and let the consequences,

let the chips forward they made, but he's not confident in this.

The things for me being a church girl, being raised in the black liberation church tradition,

I'm insulted that they think that Talleriko insulted Jesus. No, they're the ones that insulting Jesus.

Matthew 25 and 40 comes first to mine. What you do to the least of these, my brothers and sisters

or persons, you do unto me. They have refused to grasp that. They have refused to look at their

policies and how they are using power in this country and in the world and line it up with the

Christ. The Christ that I served would be a fault. The Christ that I served was among the masses,

the downtrop, but dispossessed. The Christ that I served challenged people with special titles.

So in so today, in so Jesus, every single day, the Jesus I served would turn it over to tables.

So John, I'm hoping that people who do profess to be Christian in particular, but not

universally, people who believe who are believers in justice or believe in a higher power in all

of the religions, especially the major religions. There is the golden rule and they are

failing the test every single time they are in. So as far as I'm glad that Talleriko,

even though I'm not happy about some of the things that went on in that primary,

I didn't endorse or jump in that race at all for him. Or the Congresswoman because I was not

pleased on the right wing Israeli stuff and not having the courage on the gods of question

very, very early. They were too wishy-washy on that. At least the Congresswoman for Medicare for

all was her thing when she was campaigning. Talleriko was for some public option.

They just little too wishy-wash for me. But when it comes to the fact that he may be a little better,

or maybe a lot better, depending on who you ask, the Republicans and he's giving them a run for

their money. I think a Democrat has not won statewide office what in almost 40 years give or take

a few years. I think like in the 90s, maybe the early 90s.

Yeah, I mean, he's giving them at least almost 30 years. He's giving them a run

for their money. He does have them shaking in their boots and I guess in that that's good.

But I'm expecting more out of Talleriko. I'm not pleased, especially for the black community.

I'm not pleased at all. Yeah, yeah, no, I understand what you're saying. And I will miss the barbecue.

By the way, obviously he's not going to do that. God, Ted Cruz, you're such an embarrassment.

One of the questions for him was, how will you be different from Christy Knowham?

What would your answer be to that knowing both of them?

I think he's going to focus. I don't think I can't put down what the difference is.

I can tell you that he's focused on the mission. He has spoken to leadership within the DHS

already. He's heard their ideas. He's got to speak to a few more. But he's hearing what they

think the issues are. How can we fix it? He's counting on the experts who's done this job for

decades to advise them on the next steps to take. And that's big. You know, he's coming. He

don't know the immigration game very well. But he's counting on people with 30, 40 years experience

to guide them away. So I wouldn't point that out as a difference. I just point that out that

that is the way it should be. Okay, so Tom Homan eventually got going after the mini-stroke

faded. And so he doesn't seem to hate Mark Wayne Mullin as much as he despised Christy Knowham.

And it's hard to say which you should despise more. They both suck as human beings. But he points

out that Mark Wayne Mullin would defer to the career experts, which I guess you should do.

I mean, they have more experience than you. At the same time, I have this naive position where I

think you should have some relevant experience before you had up an incredibly important department

like DHS. Mark Wayne Mullin has been a senator. He might or might not have smelled war at some point.

And he was a plumber. And those are great. But like, why is he being picked? I still haven't

heard a convincing argument for why he should be in charge. Tom Homan himself is like he doesn't

know much about immigration, which isn't great considering how that seems to be 90% of what the

DHS is concerned with these days. Now, it's not the only thing the DHS should be concerned with.

The homeland should be secured in a lot of different ways. But to be fair to Mark Wayne Mullin,

he'll know any more about those other ways than he does about immigration. He's just

obligating a hole in the Senate. That's the only experience I've ever had with him.

And so it's so strange how these people get picked. But anyway, he is at least trying to

present himself as maybe less explicitly corrupt as Kristi Nome, a little bit less

bombastic in the rhetoric as Kristi Nome, who notably referred to Americans gun down in the streets

by our masked vigilantes as terrorists and assassins and all that. Although bear in mind,

Mark Wayne Mullin has also smeared them. So that said, here he is trying to present a different tone.

You called Alex Prety, quote, a deranged individual that came into cause max damage.

Could we expect those kinds of quick responses? If you are confirmed as secretary, would you be

basically what you did? You responded as secretary Nome. Are we going to just expect that same

behavior all over again? No, Senator. Those words probably should have been retracted.

If directed by the president to take an action that would break the law, would you follow the law

or follow the president's direction? The president would never ask me to do that. This is

official trip and it is classified. But in 2015, I was asked to train with a very small

contingency and go to a certain area which was scheduled for 2016. So where was that trip?

I just said it's classified, sir. It's classified. So the letter that we sent you said that we

need to have information of any of these activities. It said not official trips. Your paperwork was

very clear, excluding any official trips. This was an official trip as a member.

So where did you smell war? Sir, I've just said that this was classified.

Okay, so Mark Wayne Mullin is saying that he should have retracted statements smearing

slain Americans. I would say you shouldn't have said them in the first place. And what is so broken

inside of you that you would be inclined to do that? He then says, I'm not going to seriously

consider whether I would follow the law of the president because the president would never tell me

to break the law, which is one of the most laughable things I think I've ever heard. He regularly

breaks the law himself and encourages those underneath him to break the law. So he's not giving

you a clear answer. And yet the answer is clear. If Mark Wayne Mullin is ordered to violate the law,

he will violate the law enthusiastically. So that is the prerequisite to be picked for a position

like this from Donald Trump. And then on to the stuff about his past. And that's where I want

Nina to weigh in. He keeps implying he's got some sort of, I don't know, James Bond, Jason

Bourne experience overseas. There's no evidence of that. He's talking about, I trained with a small

contingency. He means contingent. He understands the English language as little as he does for

an affairs or immigration. But what are you talking about? You're not MI5. What are you saying?

And if you can't even be forthright about this supposed secret op that you went on,

why should we put you in charge of a department that has as many armed men as most of the world's

militaries? I find it to be very suspicious. What do you think, Nina?

You know, I think he thinks he's Tom Crude, the character of the Tom Crude way to mission

impossible. This is the assumption that James accepted the message. He's hanging from a helicopter

doing his own stunts. Yeah, he's living in that world. He's a DI higher. As far as I'm

sorry, given that he's a unqualified. So he's a DI higher. No, seriously, he is Christy

Nome and a man's pantsuit. I mean, that's pretty much. You know, he may comport himself. He may

know how to comport himself in a gentler way, but trust he is going to operate just as a

Christy Nome operated and do everything his president has asked him to do. He is not going to

push back one Iota and as far as the two American citizens that were gunned down in many anapolis,

he owes them a public apology. He owes their families public apologies because, of course,

they are not around to get this apology and let us not forget Kevin Porter who was killed by

an off-duty ICE agent in the Los Angeles area on New Year's Eve because he was not in

many anapolis. I think people are forgetting about him and he is an African American man. So

all of ICE activities and gunning down American citizens or roughing up American citizens should

be called into question. But this guy's only qualification is that he's going to do exactly what

the president of the United States tells him to do without pushing back even if it is illegal

against the Constitution or morally wrong.

Donald Trump already didn't like the chair of the Fed Jerome Powell and Powell's recent comments

about the economy are unlikely to improve their relationship as you'll see.

And if you look at total inflation or sorry total core inflation, it's about 3% and some big

chunk of that between a half and three quarters is actually tariffs. So we're looking for progress

on that. Yeah, who was it that did those tariffs? I'm trying to we're all trying to figure out

who did this. So yeah, there might well be inflation anyway and inflation is complicated,

but this part of it isn't tariffs are inflationary. We knew that going in everybody in

America knew that other than Donald Trump and so he chose to do it anyway. So it's on him

that he has caused that inflation. And Powell went on to say near term measures of inflation

expectations have risen in recent weeks, likely reflecting the substantial rise in oil prices caused

by the supply disruptions in the Middle East. And who was it that caused supply disruptions

in the Middle East? It was probably Jerome Powell, I guess. So Trump chose to do the tariffs,

Trump chose to do the war. And as a result of that, inflation is going up. And as a result of that,

Jerome Powell is indicating that the Fed is likely to leave interest rates unchanged,

which is the last thing Donald Trump wants to hear, but he did it to himself. And it's getting so

bad in the economy out there that even Fox business hosts are getting a little bit uncomfortable.

Watch this.

It's good. What do you make of this? I mean, you know, the president is doing this to us.

I got a chance to listen to a show, John, where there was Colleen and this gentleman called

in and said he's a trucker. So these are fuel that has gone up 67 cents for him. Imagine the cost

of that on a working class person, all because this president wanted to threaten people all over

the world with tariffs. And this is absolutely attacks on the American people.

Prices are going up, but people's paychecks are not. The cost of living is going up, but people's

paychecks are not by and large. Over 60% of the American people, I think it's closer to 65%

but let's just go with over 60% of the American people are saying they live in paycheck to paycheck.

John, this does not sound like America first to me. This does not sound like the president's

campaigning. You know, when he said he was going to do better than Biden, he was going to make

sure that working class people were taking care of, but the only group that he's been taking care of

so far is him and his families would have enriched himself by over a billion dollars.

And all of the his ruling class folks that were able to sit in the front seats at his inauguration.

Those are the groups that he is taking care of, but as far as the average everyday American person

in the United States of America, he has lied to them on that campaign trail to get elected,

and he has not used his incredible power to do right by the American people, including up and

two of this war. Yeah, no, you're 100% right. And it's like it's one thing when like a bad thing

happens and he mismanages it, which we've seen. That's right.

Fatally so like COVID and all that. This isn't even that. This is him just coming up with a terrible

thing to hit the American people with to hit his own voters with. Yeah, we did a story and I'll

end on this. We did a story on diesel prices yesterday up as of yesterday. It was up 38%

in a week and a half or whatever. And I saw a story about a farmer. He puts a hundred gallons

of diesel gas into his tractor. So it's like 70 bucks more a tank for him than it was like a

week ago. He didn't vote for this. In fact, he voted for these act opposite because Donald Trump

campaigned on I'm going to cut gas prices in half in one year. And instead he's close to,

we'll see at some point with diesel. He might well double it. In any event, that's going to have

to be it for the first hour of the show. But when we come back, we do have a lot more to talk about.

More Nina coming up after this.