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The New Space Race

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We’re going back to the moon for the first time in more than 50 years. That is, if Artemis II can get off the ground. I sat down with Jared Isaacman, the billionaire leading NASA, to hear his perspective on everything from extraterrestrial life to the timeline for sending humans to Mars. 

This interview was recorded before NASA announced the delay of Artemis II’s launch.

  • 01:59 - Where are we?
  • 04:00 - From entrepreneur to astronaut
  • 09:04 - The “lunar futuristic junkyard”
  • 15:06 - NASA’s budget
  • 22:43 - Beyond NASA: Blue Origin, SpaceX and private industry
  • 27:26 - The orbital economy
  • 37:21 - How do we get to Mars?
  • 43:31 - “Do you think there's life out there?”

(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)

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