The OG Fantasy Show - Week 1 Review with Special Guest FantasyNerdboi

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1:18What is going on everybody? Welcome into the show. We are joined with special guest, fantasy nerd boy for the week one breakdown. How are we doing sir? I'm good man. I love that intro. Who was like I need Ricky Lake in my intro song? Who was like you got to put Ricky Lake in there because that's a pull. That's like a big pull like in the 90s kids. Like I was talking to you about being unemployed during COVID. And shout out to all the unemployed dads out as a kid. You're just you are an employee. You're getting a taste of childhood when you're unemployed. But like when you're a kid it's to stay at home like Jerry and Ricky Lake and like all these like really trashy. But like you know that molded me as a child I think. You know it was like so here in the lake in an intro it's pretty awesome. Oh I've gotten the Steve Chan a few times before. Steve Steve. Good Jerry's great show if anyone remembers. Yeah of course man Steve the door guy at that point he

2:22was just like blocking chairs from you know B.M's getting hit with baby. Baby moms getting hit with chairs. And if he was like the guy that made sure that didn't happen. Yeah he was like all right no. Okay I'm getting hit with a chair today. Yes sir. Well we appreciate you having on the show. We're getting into the week one breakdowns but most of our drafts are wrapped up now. How are you feeling with most of your drafts? I know you're not like a reasonable amount of leagues right? You're not like 60 leagues or anything like that. No that was a does a point in time of my life where I was doing that. And it was just like I'm sustainable you know I feel like I you know it's okay to leave leagues if you're doing the right way. I left a lot of leagues like obviously paid and found somebody to take over and all that good stuff but like I it you know you jump into them because you can't say no or that you just really want to play around with new values and stuff. I think that that's what content creation is all about. You got to stand on business and drafts

3:24and you know actually practice what you preach but also you get into it a little too deep sometimes you know. So I have about like 12 dynasty leagues, five devi leagues and like four or five C2C leagues. And those are the things that I'm putting most of my time into. I don't do a read draft very often anymore. I do like Scott Fishbowl. I'll do like the big leagues and stuff like that but for the most part you know it's more about building up these teams. A lot of the dynasty teams I didn't start any new ones this year. I did one content creation league and I got to tell you the content creation leagues like never last they're they have like such a short lifespan for the most part because which is so weird because you think it would be the exact opposite. These dudes are too involved in content and too involved they're all you know like they just all fold themselves at

4:25this point and everyone just wants to do this content for them. They jump in a leagues so that they can post trades on their Twitter or you know make a podcast and do an episode about the startup and stuff but then like when a dynasty league obviously you have to stay active throughout the year. A lot of these guys should have like bail or they just become inactive because they're they're too busy and you're like oh it's gonna be really fun to be with these big content creators but they don't trade they don't involve themselves like in the chat or anything and you're just like what's the point of this dude you know it's like a re it becomes a a redraft in dynasty format. Yeah but I'm so glad I got into dynasty because I was strictly redraft for the longest time and then I finally got invited to the first one and I think I'm in the four this year so I did three startups and then I was in them the deacon's league with you so I'm in the deacon's league on an adopted

5:26team so I just wanted that experience of doing something else and picking up another team from a different point that I didn't have so I just wanted the challenge as well and speaking of that league we have a trade to do right now a hot trade. I'm sure dude I'm breaking this team down so for content it's excuse me context I um this is the degens hater league so I started this league because I was on Twitter and I would post like trades and stuff and I would get a bunch of people that would say man wish I wasn't a league with you oh wish I wasn't a league with you and I said I'm gonna create a league and you can be in the league with me and I called it the degens hater league and if you ever said anything negative about one of the trades that I posted I invited you to the league and I allowed you to come in and that's how that started and I I've been pretty active and I have been one of the top three teams for the last four years and I just said

6:27I'm with it and I want to break it down so this is a trade that I offered you it is Patrick Mahomes and Devonte Adams for Danny Dimes Jalen Waddle on the 27th first and you know it I love Mahomes Mahomes is one of my go-to big dogs but I want my first to become valuable and I want to build this team for the future I'm not gonna do it with Mahomes and Adams I think that you're gonna be able to be successful with this this do well and I think that you're gonna have more success than I would this year and I don't value Daniel Jones but my my my idea in my head is I'm gonna pretty much like hope that he he comes out and becomes the Daniel Jones of last year and then move him so then I can get even more pieces on top of that we know make it like a tiered down trade ultimately but baby hey we gotta prove this and drop it in the chat too because

7:37doing a live trade and I got the notification right there and I love doing live trades I did this on a pod not that long ago where I got Argy Harvey and you know I don't love Argy Harvey but for the sake of doing a live trade I'll just if you ever want me to accept the trade send it to me while I'm on live and more more likely to accept for the me and the clip no and for my part like my it's starting Rosser is very solid but it's looking like a little older and I'm not a huge Daniel Jones believer and I know like Pat coming back off of the surgery with B&M like he should have a bounce back year and it should be viable for at least the next three to four years and especially in a super flex B&L will secure two quarter back spots with Jalen Hurts and Patrick Mahomes I felt very comfortable there like I know the 27 first is a lot to give up but those two positions are paramount to cornerstone so I felt comfortable with it

8:39yeah I think like I said it's kind of you know one of those um it's like the way you're built is so to build trade you know my build right now is in a I have like good running backs and a couple good pieces as far as wide receivers go but like you have to make a choice as far as in a dynasty goes where you're gonna go one way or the other and if you view yourself as a contender you're going to push your pieces in to be contender and then if you view yourself I also do this and if I'm in a lot of dynasty leagues where I choose a couple leagues where I'm just like I want to break it down I want to see the other side of things and experience a dynasty where I am trading and I'm trading away productive pieces for chances and that's that's really what you can do if you're in a lot of leagues where you can decide hey man you know like I'm gonna take this league and break it down and have the fun of creating like a punt year and then you learn a lot about values learn a lot about you know

9:44okay so I am taking this player moving him for a first and X X amount of pieces and stuff and that helps you give out that content once you are in it once you do it enough you can say hey if you want to rebuild this is how I do it I want to show you how to do it and this is what I talk about when I say practice what you preach if you're gonna talk about rebuilding rosters and talk about punting and and grabbing first and everything you gotta do it baby you gotta just you can't just say hey man I've been in leagues where these guys are talking about you know trading Devonti Adams and Tearing Down and the Tearing Down or you know having these tears where you essentially go down and you translate trades where you have insulation so insulation is you grab a first round pick or a future pick plus production and that's the idea where I'm gonna get waddle and then obviously a first and then hopefully Dingle Jones does a little bit of what he did last year so that I can build off of that trade even more um but I have guys that I do talk to

10:50that are doing these this type of content but I've never seen them actually do this kind of dynasty work where they are breaking down rosters because they're so obsessed with having the best you have to be the best you know a lot of people that do creation like say I can't not be the best in this league because you know they're gonna just say I'm a phony and I'm like well yeah it goes both ways you know it does and I think that's it kind of speaks to a lot of like character as well because that's we do this to grow and improve and strengthen our like skills and knowledge that's one of the reasons I started doing dynasty was to learn a new skill it's one of the reasons I did a salary draft was learn something new so like it doesn't have to be perfect it's not gonna be like you're can only be one champion in every league then you're not gonna win every single one so it's just the way learning and growing and you're absolutely correct there so just showing that experience to everybody else I mean that's kind of why we're doing this we can help one person get better than

11:53it's time well spent exactly and not everyone is in the same position when they're talking about dynasty or even well redraft you got to all be in the same position because ultimately there's only one goal when you can't you know if you're team sucks then you just suck and there's no there's no looking for the future there but you know in a dynasty you see to see any format where there is carryover you do have to look at all of the different builds and all the ways of doing that because there's no right or wrong way to dynasty there is a way to do it where you know you can look for the future you can build for right now and you can do both at the same time you know but you're right you got to do it you got to be in it and and ultimately you can talk about it all you want but I'm a doer I have to actually be in the mix and do things before I can feel comfortable telling people how to do it you know those pieces in your closet you find yourself wearing on repeat those are the pieces that make getting dressed easy and that's what quince does

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13:58uh... too much of his luther bird and so i think i have almost my entire personality like i'm not like Bradley stodler if you know him on the uh... yeah out there in the ether he's a he's a but he's my buddy like i love that we have we have a lot of conversations Bradley's been on the show a bunch of times and you know we were player profiler together and it was just a lot of good good camaraderie there but like he hates luther bird and with a passion and he thinks that he's going to fall flat this year based on value and i'm the opposite i love luther bird and i've like i've loved luther bird and for five six years now you know i was i'm a deadly guy i was very much in on him as a freshman and coming in and being productive as a sophomore i think that i i was always in on him as far as when he came to the NFL i wanted a bunch of them so i i got a bunch of them whether it was through trade or you know i've traded 27 first for luther bird and i don't care

14:59i'm doing it all day and i'm not looking back and everyone's like the 27 class is so juiced you love the 27 class and i just tell them i don't care i have i'm 10 toes down on luther bird and and if it blows up in my face it blows up in my face but you know it is convictions we talk about convictions all the time we talk about you know if if he does not do well i'll be the first one to dunk on myself and that's just the the way that i kind of operate but um i just view him as somebody that is maybe overvalued to some people but i think that there's only going to go as far as value goes up in in the next couple couple months i think that we're going to look at luther bird and possibly being in that tetorromic mill and you know drick london tier as opposed to being back there with you know it's counterpart roe madunes a and i think he's in that jalen waddle davanta smith range right now um yep you know i just think he's 20 what is he 22 23 yeah he's got a lot

16:07of years before he even you know by the time he's 26 he'll be in the league for four years so it's like there's there's a lot of juice to squeeze right there there is and i'm like i did a piece on roe earlier in the summer and like it wasn't a downplay on luther at all it was just given his adp i liked the value of roe more but we've gotten a discount like going into drafts this summer with the injury he had in spring camps and their adp is relatively similar right now so i mean a lot of the times you'll see roe go before luther so i have no problem taking him in drafts this year i've taken him in a couple myself just to try because like i didn't want roe everywhere so i gave me some luther too man so i love it um anyone who you wish you would have drafted more of you missed out on you know i i'm looking around uh what do i who do i not have any pieces of i i don't have a lot of Caleb so i it just worked out the way that you know my teams were never in a position to get Caleb

17:10Williams um i have one share but i wish i had more um there's also Trevor Lawrence who i'll talk about i know that you are a big Jags guy Trevor Lawrence so these guys that were like the one of ones of rookie drafts i never got i never got i got one share of love i got you know one share of Gibbs you know any of these highly i was always competitive and then in the in the punts that i did you know it was never in a class where i was getting like a top tier guy like unfortunately i punted in the year where i got um man who did i take i did i did take Gibbs and one but then i also took like uh CJ shroud another you know and um i i didn't hit on Caleb Williams these are the guys that i'm all in on like these young cornerstone um quarterbacks or running backs and you know i don't have any i have one bjohn so i mean in the scope of like 25 leagues i'm talking about the

18:12guys that i wish i had more of because you know obviously they are highly touted dynasty guys but i also see them as being um untradable in a lot of leagues where it's hard to get pieces of Caleb even Trevor Lawrence it's hard to get um now currently you know bjohn and Gibbs are almost untradable for a lot of people so it's like if you missed them good luck you're gonna have to mortgage like half of the future to get these guys especially after this year where i think Caleb and Trevor Lawrence jump into the first round conversation of a lot of uh startups next year so we and we're gonna talk about the jags i know we're gonna talk about the jags because you're excited about that and i am too i i am a big Trevor Lawrence guy through and through and i always have been and it's really nice to see the way that he ended last year so um you know i could go on and on about guys i don't have a lot of shares of but you know you get the picture where it is

19:13the top tiered guys you always want more of the guys that are going to be the most productive in fantasy 100% man agree with that a bit i ended up getting Caleb Williams in one of my startups and it cost me a lot to move up to get a second first pick i kind of regretted it but when i look at the roster and you got Josh Allen and Caleb Williams in there it's like okay yeah Caleb right there you know Caleb is like a a lot of Caleb shares and i saw going in 108 109 in the range of like a puka or an amon Rossine brown or you know even i don't know how you guys draft but he was going before like Lamar Jackson and Joe burrow and stuff and um i i get that absolutely in dynasty i think that he should go ahead of you know Joe burrow is interesting because we've never seen him on a very good offensive line and obviously attached to two of the best receiving options in the NFL it's a hard sell but the age probably moves it a little bit in dynasty for me

20:19i see the bill both ways but he was a little too juiced for me you know when i was looking at it you had to either you know trade back in the first rounds or trade up and it just never really worked out where it made sense to me yeah all right well that being said let's talk about this first game tomorrow football is officially back then i'm stoked uh Patriot Seahawks how do we feel about Super Bowl rematches as the first game of the season uh you know what i don't love it i think that it they're really playing into you know everybody like they're just trying to figure out the most recent sea bias like thing to do in in NFL and you know i i don't think it should have been them in the Super Bowl to begin with honestly i think the Patriots probably were a year too early and they're Super Bowl dance i think that they probably would have lost to uh bone x led brakos team i'm gonna see is CJ shroud didn't turn the ball over a hundred

21:25times they probably would have lost the detections too i'm a Patriots fan but i i don't think they deserved to win those games i just think that they kind of fell into the Super Bowl and i know doubt they're super talented and i just don't want to see this i don't care i'm like as a fan of the team you know whatever i'd rather see the Patriots and the bills play um week one oh i seriously like yeah you know i want them to start with you know i want them to start with the AFC East first and i want to see them dominate this year um and and then they can kind of go on from there but i think this is gonna be a closer game than it was in the Super Bowl a lot of change i think obviously kubiak leaving the sea hawks is going to have somewhat an effect i think no Kenneth Walker where the Kenneth Walker was the the x factor in that game obviously they they ran over the field i don't think jadeur prices gonna be as effective in that role and i just

22:25don't think the Patriots are gonna be as susceptible to the run as they were last year either you know banged up and just like at the end of a Super Bowl run obviously you're not healthy and it's a tougher cell but i this is what we're gonna get man they're gonna throw this down our throats so we gotta we gotta take it and accept it you know um and and like you're looking at the last met on this graphic it's kind of hilarious because like Drake may mac callins and kashan booty you know now now you're looking at Drake may i don't think hunter henry makes this because you got a j brown around you and then you're looking at romio dobs and um there is some kinkade eventually i i don't know what they're gonna as eventually they're still gonna be moving pieces i think this offense isn't complete um but you know ultimately i think that the team has improved and i think the seahawks is actually not necessarily like drastically um cut their roster but i think that they have

23:30taken a step back in the offseason as as opposed to forward i agree there is enough overhaul there to make me a little little weary especially like seeing a seahawks defense still going one on one like people drafting their defense and redraft like a few rounds early like in the 10th or 11th and i'm like uh they're defense is good but it's still a defense man i can just fall apart and then you lose like ken walker who's you know your workhorse running back in the backfield and it's those are staple positions on a team and like when you can't just those unilaterally move pieces like that it completely changes your schematics and how that offense works so like yeah i mean it could it's a good defense sorry to cut you off a good defense honestly is dictated by your offensive efficiency to be like really you know you're putting your defense in plus situations you're putting your defense in um you know on the field where you know it there's a big difference between being a fender in the goal line right away in the first down or being a defender back in the in their

24:34own 10 you know so it's like if you're constantly putting um the offense like if you're successful and you know you're scoring points as an offense your defense is always going to be in a plus situation so it's like but if now without you know somebody like really pushing the sticks and moving the chains like are are the is that defense going to be in a favorable situation all the time and and you know you got to ask that question a little bit i i maybe if no personnel changes and they still bring it back but the offense isn't as efficient um that defense takes a step back to unfortunately you thought like i mentioned the texas last year they were good until shroud turn the ball over 10 times and then they were put in a situation where the patriots were at the goal line first down and they had four downs to score a touchdown or you know they were already like what are 20 yards out when you have 20 yards to go as opposed to 80 it's a big difference between

25:37how much stress your defense is going through the day in and day out especially in a long game you are talking to a salty browns fancer i know all about terrible offenses good defenses in bad positions so i completely get it and then like i always like feel like there's some sort of like super bowl hangover as well like i know that's like kind of out there but like i think that's a real thing man you get these guys doing offseason stuff they're doing photo shoots they're doing promo stuff like it kind of takes away from the training a little bit i mean the guys are professionals they're still going to do their job but i think it still plays a factor yeah definitely man i mean that's the the hangover that occurs a lot of teams come back and they're they're not sharp or they're they're just not producing how they normally would and yeah man it's it's a it's a lot to carry over year to year but yeah 44 and a half point you know point total is uh what's expected so not like the greatest fantasy matchup i think the defenses are going to kind of

26:40slow it down um but we should still get points out there a couple touchdowns of peace i think a j brown should have a huge game in this one uh anybody else you expect to pop off here um honestly i think that hunter henry is somebody that i'm looking at in all of my leagues hunter henry i think is going to find a lot of success in the soft zones at this coverage and i think you're going to be concentrating on a j brown and romio dobs and you know all these pieces and then the run game with ramandre stevensson i think that the hunter henry's going to work in the middle of the field and get these like little um you know short yardage yaks situations where he's going to slowly creep into you know a tight end one spot this week where i think he's probably going to get like 80 yards and a touchdown you know and and really when yeah i think that he's probably going to get like six or seven catches i think that it's just going to be easy money when everybody's pulled out to the outside where i think that he's going to you know be on these

27:43like linebackers and just be able without work on and and get some separation there yeah i was about to say he's probably going to be like six or six e and a touchdown and end up as like tight end eight or something like that of course like everyone's going to be like oh a g a brown big game all romio dobs is going to cook on the outside against secondary um and when you know a g a brown's pulling all the coverage over there and i just think that it's going to be like a lot of dinkin and dunkin um with a couple big plays but i think this defense is still going to let them flex without you know breaking yeah i completely agree um looking into our next game here we got what uh rams and 49ers this one i am excited to see pull it up here real quick and we are using the dynatize site if you guys didn't know all right this is one of my favorite sites personally like i can't stop using it i love it so if you guys you know check out the analytics on if you're big analytics guy they map stuff

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29:53subs to everything because i couldn't get everything in one place so i think that that's really the the selling point for dynatize yeah i'm like there's literally a spot on the website where you can just be like okay if this guy did this with this many yards and this time where does he fall and it points you in an entire list of outcomes it's absolutely insane and amazing and i love it um but looking into this la ram san francisco game in metal born how we think about this one forty eight and a half point over under like this could be a big game for both sides here yeah i think that this is going to be a shootout i think that the forty nineers are going to surprise people with how much they throw in this game i think you know you're looking at Brock Purdy being a big time value i i'm very curious as you know Mike Evans has been dead to rights for a lot of people i think that he's going to have a big game um stripling or stripling excuse me i don't know what we see from him but man all signs are pointing to you know him

30:59possibly having his his breakout and then um at least like confirming the value that he has currently because he is probably valued in this rookie class right behind macaque lemon and everyone's like well should he be higher should be lower what do we do um and then from the ramp standpoint i mean we're looking at you know the probably the super bowl contenders right from day one obviously the defense with air and donald going over there how that looks as a cohesive unit i mean they just juiced up that defense i'm really really hoping that this team just like skates to the super bowl and i i really like i think that um on the pod last night i said ramps jack super bowl so that probably brings a little happiness to your heart hearing that um and and i think it's just going to be a fun game man this is the game that i want this is the game i want week one like the first game i'd like this to be the ones day game honestly i mean i don't like Wednesday games in general

32:05i don't like how they're doing that but you know if it was going to be one game out of Wednesday i want it to be this game because um i think that it's just going to be a really really fun this is like you know all these guys like i think the 49ers are dying out i think the ramps only have a short window to staffer obviously is that an age where he needs to win now um you know donald coming back he expects to win right now he's not going to play next year and he wants this year you know this is like everyone's everyone's pushing their chips in for this year and the 49ers are aged out too CMC you know you want to talk about him obviously i expect him to be good until he's not good anymore i don't i don't know what to tell people everyone's like what do you do with CMC i'm like you draft you know and then you just you'll ride him to the wheels fall off you know i don't like his value i don't like saying he's a first round startup pick i can't do it i don't own any CMC because he's been too high for my liking um but i don't hate you if you're going to take him

33:10in the first round and and just like roll the dice on somebody that could be a league winner but he also just holds a lot of it just scares me man you know i'd rather take a a henry two rounds later then i put all my my eggs in the basket with CMC i agree completely so in my home league in our redraf league which is just like a standard ppr league i took uh james cook over CMC at the what was i in eight the eight spot but i also grabbed calon black the 12th round just to make sure i had a hand cuff i'm thinking james cook i'm taking um yep uh Jonathan Taylor you know if you even want to make a case for like he shun jud or not kichon excuse me um come on shun no not not even no i'm thinking of omar and hampton um i almost did and i was like uh hey chain i might even take over him i mean there's a lot of of guys that i'm probably going to

34:11have a conversation about when it comes to CMC because i think you're going to get somebody that can come in produce similarly and then not have the the constant nagging injuries and and you know scares of drastically yeah i mean just all that you know the the San Francisco 49ers off the trust in general i like party but outside of that a lot of these guys are a little too high for my liking agreed um with that being said to like i love the value we've been getting on kittles this year like coming off of the injury i know it's a little suspect but like he's looked good like i thought he looked good at tight end you i think he's been looking good at camp all the reports have been he's looked explosive like they he's been going like what the ninth round in drafts and re-draft and dynasty so dynasty he was going in that 12th 13th hour at the beginning of the off season when everyone said that kittles out for the year it was kind of the expectation that he wasn't coming back you know people had him back there with like andrews and you know um chico conco all these guys that

35:16like formed a little tear back there um and now look at all of them i mean even andrews has risen quite a bit but like you know if you want value go do a dynasty start up in um in april or you know may when you know everyone has a really bad taste in their mouth from last year and you know there's so much value to be had there's the you know all these guys rise with camp talk and with the injury news and stuff and trades but like you can get all these guys that are expected to be free agents or off of an injury or had a bad year for free yeah super cheap and i was we were just doing our dread our draft the other night my buddy was like i almost retired after last year i lost in the championship i was like brother i feel you that beware is a dark time in this household like things keep depressing i understand we we got it though yeah man it is it's tough man it's hard you know i have a um a short term memory when it comes

36:22to dynastie especially when it comes to player values but there are things that hold like cmc broke my heart and i still am grossed out by him and i you know what it just happens that way and i if he has a monster year i'm okay missing on him because you can't convince me to take him in the first round honestly and in general like you can don't don't ever like i just can't do it man i don't care if he if he's the rb1 i'm good like you know falling in that sword and just saying hey it is what it is there's some guys where i just say i'm fine missing on you i don't care i think that's completely fine um on the other side pukin to kula man we should be seeing him full go i should have an absolutely insane year man it's gonna be bananas like he's looked ridiculous yeah i mean the offense on here is just gonna be incredible i think you're gonna see blakeorum work in here too with kiron i think that there's gonna be a really good um two tandem backfield this year i agree as well kiron stays healthy

37:26blakeorum gets work and they're probably gonna see like 60 40 split you know which is i find you know i think that it's gonna be a fun backfield and then pukin to vante you know two of the probably the most um savvy guys i think pukin is more physical but like when it comes to divante he's just like the best route run on the NFL and i still think he is and you know he works well with with staffer and he's still that big end zone target obviously this this team is like you know it's an it's like an old dynasty team but like a really good redraft team i don't know how to explain that but like you know like you want this team you do in your as a fantasy league like but like i don't know if i'd want like a divante um staffer it's older piece it was if it was like dynasty i'd hate that stack but like in real NFL like that is beautiful it is yep

38:27and like for the tight ends like i know there's a bunch of terrence fergus in buzz out there he's been a little late round option so it'd be good to see how he gets used as well um anything else you're looking forward to in this game besides miles Garrett on that defense i honestly man i mean i just looking for good football i can't really break down these players too much for week one i know that there's a lot of uh expectation but there's also week one is an extension of preseason you know like as fun as it's gonna be it's gonna be sloppy and there's gonna be mistakes and it's gonna be like not perfect football and we're not gonna get that until week six week seven like and i mean these teams that come out as super bowl contenders they're gonna do enough to win but like it's not gonna be as like flawless and perfect and and you know i don't expect like you know miles Garrett is gonna be a dog you know everyone's seen him practicing hitting harder and stuff like that like we're gonna see him have some monster plays but like you know i think this defense

39:29is gonna take a couple weeks to really hum and and that's fine man that's just they're playing in Melbourne they're traveling they got they're playing what is Melbourne like uh they're playing in the early morning for them yeah the time starts real man i mean that's just tough in general that's tough to do in the middle and he's never mind week one yeah um next game we're getting into though um this will be a fun one for fantasy especially is bears and panthers and we're all excited to see the bears and especially meet myself included having a bunch of Caleb Williams and Roma Dune's a and Luther bird and all across you know dynasty and redraf leagues and it'll also be fun to see what the panthers do man like Bryce Jung it seems like he always finds like makes it work at the last like three weeks of the season and then completely forget self football is and then he finds it again but he i mean he's got some extra pieces now with Tedaroa Mcmillan looking good Jalen Coke are looking good now Jonathan Brooks in the backfield i have my inspection to see a lot of so

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41:35quince dot com slash player uh you know what i think that the bears win this game pretty easily honestly i know that you know you're looking at a team in the panthers that is a fringe playoff team i think that Bryce Young has to show a big step forward i'm excited to see Caleb and the target share that breaks down between lovelin no dunes a and burden i think burden is going to get shattered by a horn and i think that it's going to be a tough game to really assess this target share because you have one elite corner on this team and then you know some some players but like really you know you're going to see a shadow game probably from um you know one of the best corners in the NFL with burden so it's going to be a fun you know breakdown it's going to be a fun battle to watch but i think that it's going to equal lovelin and no dunes a probably more more targets and an easier path to production and then when it comes to the panthers we're looking at um you know

42:36it's going to be the tetra row and mid millen show i know that cocker there's a lot of coca ads out there i'm sure this is going to get some some targets and probably have some production um but from uh you know i think that the more interesting part of this is probably looking at Brooks and and chuba hubbard and finding out how that breaks down you know if Brooks is fully healthy how are they splitting these carries who's getting the first carry i think that that's what people are watching in this game um so it's going to be a fun a fun one i think from a fantasy perspective but i think it's going to be a pretty easy game for the bears yeah agreed and that's another thing i wanted to see was how that bears defense starts to look because i know it was a little suspect last year but i mean but they have pieces that should be able to help um like especially playing against the panthers i guess not a tough matchup so they should be able to handle it pretty easily but agreed on the johnathan brooks and chuba hubbard part because people are asleep on chuba still for some reason and i and this is a guy who has been an rb1 in like multiple weeks when he had the

43:42control of that room so like i know we're all excited about johnathan brooks as well especially with his ppr work that he can do like don't forget that chuba is still there like so that is an important one to watch especially because we just brought up kyron williams and blake core i'm in that split and like those are two guys who were going well above both chuba and uh johnathan brooks so it'll be interesting to see yeah man i'm i'm excited for that i'm excited for fantasy implications in this game big time mm-hmm they have 47 points like i think a minus three i guy i'm smashing a minus three man that is juicy yeah i know i just got to see brice young um you know be successful it was so ugly up and down last year so yeah it was not pretty man and like i was never a big brace young fan myself that guy so i'm not mad at it but you know um look at it the next game here we got browns and jaguars you know i had to bring the jaguars up

44:49but this is um yeah man i mean i like the show sheet it says obligatory 10 minutes of jaguar prop again it uh yeah man i mean you know what you could talk about this to your face turns blue i know and you know you want to see how this this um target share breaks down when we're talking about brine tom's junior is he gonna rise up is you know um chop wood carry water is that just the mantra and is he going to ultimately be the alpha and and you know i think that there's a lot of coach speak we got to just buy into some of that and then you know you are still looking at a jacobie mires and you know i know Travis Hunter probably is gonna get a lot offensive but then you know you have tight end usage you have all these guys i mean they have so much talent offensively where you know do we see park or washington just take over or is it more of a spread out offense

45:50and then you got to look at you know basheal to him there's two and have that workhorse role like i don't know how that's gonna look with chris rod regus back there and is he gonna get the gold line usage i mean a lot of questions might still be up in the air after this game because you're gonna be playing a browns team that might have the jags put up uh ten points defensively on you know like i go like i don't know you know you could have two scores coming from the jags defense in this game alone based off of interceptions or you know sack fumbles or anything like that you know i don't know the shan watson is the x factor here does he i was on a pod last night and i was like what if he's okay you know like i was like what if the shan watson ends up being just fine like not a good quarterback but like does he have to do a lot to be a step up from like shador sanders last year and like was joe flacco joe flacco was the quarter i don't remember

46:53who they were they had they had somebody else they had this they had um they're like a real yeah i mean there was does he have to be good or just better than that you know um that's why he has the job yeah so and the offense is if you had an offense with with Harold fanning casey conception densel boston um i'm not gonna mention anybody else because they're not mentionable but you have a jerry judy you have these guys um you know that are good that's a good offense man that's like pretty and then you got um jugkins in the backfield and and the offense can be very good if they have like a game manager they don't need a good quarterback they just need a quarterback just like um like a jerry goff on the ramps you know like adjust a a game manager didn't need a lot of

47:53you know coaching just kind of just whatever dinking dunks occasional bomb not in flacco yeah like really like these just need somebody that doesn't turn the ball over and um i don't know if he can be that guy but if he is then you know the browns could be kind of fun this year honestly and i mean we've been waiting for it man um but you brought it up already and that's the jaguars backfield that's what i want to see the most like i know the passing game is gonna be on point it was good in camp i mean like brian thomas juniors gonna get plays like parker's gonna be the ppr he's got you know absolutely smash and full ppr leagues this year i think i have him ranked at 14 myself right now and i like i had a hard time not putting them higher like had to keep the prejudice a little lower so um but yeah btj is gonna eat too like the first dual practice they had with the tampa bitbuckeneers the first play was a 45 yard bomb to brine thomas juniors in the corner of the in zone like he's gonna smash um but the backfield is what i want to see because everyone's

48:59typing up to in you know he's gonna be this workhorse running back he's gonna lead that field but like christrod regas was working his way into a timeshare during that holes-frame contract yeah hole-spring practice and then there's also the quint nal and juniors who they like for pass pro in their two-minute drills and like for the red zone stuff because of his catching and blocking and then jukeme um a mere duel is still in there too to get some of the other work so like they've been a pretty even split throughout can't man like tootans looked good he's been the best looking running back there but it's been a pretty even split as well so i think there's a there's a two in trade in the chat man pull this thing up real quick i want to see yeah so let's go jacob jacob jacob's asking if you look at the chat we got to look at the chat real quick because i got you bro and and he's looking at it and he's talking about um his picks is his team i mean pretty solid i i think that you know your two flex cook hampton alive a

50:00waddle two in he's got a sneaky parker washington in there i see a march on Lloyd gold godwin fanon then golden christrod regas um khaler murry and brock perty is this redraft there's this dynasty this redraft this would be redraft i'm assuming yeah yeah this looks redraft and he's asking if i offer two in and golden to get a chain a tn a chain whatever you want to call him now it is yeah i don't know how i i can this two in the it's i don't like offer that much more points i don't think so there's not that much upside between toot and an a tn i mean it etn's gonna be better with the ppr work but once elvin kimara starts getting healthier too i think that's gonna be a share that's bigger than people are expecting i mean i i i would definitely want

51:03it yen more than two and i think yeah you ask golden is he just uh fab you know at this point is is golden just a guy that would be part to ever start golden this year that's really like what you have to look at you know golden looks like he is wide receiver depth on this team right here with water yeah but i mean it's not part two you have a lave waddle a lave and one all are our injury injuries waiting to happen too you know that will lead to it is a two flex spot so maybe you hold on to him because wait till he sees you can hold on to him for a couple weeks see if he pops and if he does and i would i would look at a different option you know i think that if you're gonna be trading to and in golden maybe you can get somebody that is absolutely sure to get like a workhorse role you know i think if you have anybody in your league that values golden you know you could probably get

52:04uh the likes of i don't know would you do i'm trying to think of running back ranks in my running back ranks um i don't know if i a judgekins is more valuable than he is again i i think that maybe i would want somebody like that i because you're gonna see a team that is absolutely locked in to give i think judgekins we're we're gonna talk about this because we're on this this game right now i think judkins is gonna get 15 to 20 caries locked in every game i think that that you there's nobody on that team i know that dilland sampson's on that team he's not that kind of guy he is a not get back i'm bigger than dilland sampson i am i'm five nine and a hundred and eighty pounds i'm bigger than dilland sampson so i'm a tiny guy i'm not even big and i'm bigger than him so i i can't tell you he's going to be in there and

53:06working hard um i know that i like him as a a ppr back maybe you know as a a hamary play if judkin goes out but you know judkins is healthy he's he's a workhorse in that team yes he is and he looked good last year before the injury to him and so i'm glad he was able to make it back because it looked kind of gnarly when we saw that last year and i was like uh oh that didn't look good but yeah yeah i mean that yeah these guys are coming back from these really crazy injuries faster and faster you know killies used to be like that wish like even four years ago you couldn't come back from the killies for two years you know like uh some guys were just considered to have their their season like over and then possibly just their career over over and that what's like they come back after six months seven months you know it's insane and i know they're good too they're not just like showing ill effects either yeah good especially if you like people watching

54:07like to find your bell growing up or any of these other guys like it's always like a ramp up period even after they're on the field before they're at a hundred percent and like i know you had zane denani on the show last week i i had them on as well and like just listening to him talk to the the doctors and like how fast recovery is it's been like it's been an amazing improvement in medical men so it's really good to see these guys get back and get healthy and stay healthy but as far as that trade i i agree with you like i'm not too high on etn where i would offer up to nann golden but in a full pp arleague with the two flex spots i like judekins a lot too especially i haven't run it back there i'm not a golden guy but like i'm coming around on him possibly being a difference maker this year you know i think that there is a world where he does find production and he becomes a viable like wider seaver 3 on a team like uh like not for for fantasy you know like uh you could probably become a flex spot um i think that i

55:11i might want to hold on a golden with that wider seaver depth especially when we're talking about waddle who is seems like he's banged up like every year at least twice you know and then alavi with the concussions and then also you know he just got diagnosed with blood clots this off season 2 there is a lot of risk with your wide receivers it's hard to say you need to move one of your wide receivers right now with these risky assets you know you might be starting golden sooner rather than later at some point yeah i agree i'm i've been taking them because i think he's a value grab litter and rounds especially if he has like that year two wide receiver pop that we like to see on a healthier offense this year which should be good to see as well but i like the little opportunity in the cost you're getting with golden so i've been taking them everywhere hoping for a breakout it's like i don't like trading away those pieces that could be you know potential roster changes especially if they can just sit on my bench and like develop like if i can trade them after

56:11like a month if i need to cut them i can cut them but i'd rather hold on to the lottery ticket if i can but the 40 point over under on this one like i think this is going to be definitely a defensive battle we know Cleveland's like one of the top five defenses in league the jaguars were the number one rushing defense in league last year they look good and camp like i will hoping for more points here but like this should be like a slug a slow slug festband yeah this is like a 17 to 10 game honestly yeah just one of those other ones i could be like um you know like five field goals between the two teams don't it's gonna be all cam well not not only just field goals but i think that you're gonna see like five field goals and like two touchdowns and you're just like uh it just feels like a gross yeah there's a pick six somewhere in there yeah there could be some defense of like i said before some defensive touchdowns in this game yeah all right before we wrap

57:17this up here we got one more question in the chat should i trade neighbors and Jacobs for hampton i have h-hand ramondre and dobbins almond rotet damn i mean it's like these redraft trades throw me for a loop because i have such a dynasty brain you know like when i look at that i'm like hell no but then i'm like yeah you know this is redraft and neighbors is banged up and Jacobs might not even see the i mean all right so we saw James pierce pretty much the same charge right he got eight games this year Jacob's people are like well he's got his his court date if his court date gets dismissed the NFL can still suspend him right yep you know like what's the risk there Jacobs comes back that trade looks silly you know Jacob's plays it's like we can't tell you if Jacobs is coming back or not we don't we have no idea i can tell you

58:19who is better when they're on the field and i can tell you who looks good but i can't predict this stuff i have no idea and i wish if you can just if you have anybody that can just say yeah the NFL is going to suspend him NFL's not if Jacobs gets four to six games and neighbors comes back healthy it's still probably the neighbor side because i think that neighbors one fully healthy is probably equally to hampton you know yeah like but if he's not and Jacobs has a dead year you're looking at an injured neighbors who is not as efficient as usually is for hampton who could be a league winner and it's like i can't if i tell you to do it and Jacobs isn't suspended and then neighbors comes back healthy i look like an idiot yeah and then i tell you don't do it and they're gone it's just it's a very 50-50 trade it is it's a very you know what it could blow in your blow up in your face

59:23or it could look really good and i can't tell you what side it's gonna it's just it's by chance it's a chance trade it really is right like are you feeling any some type of way about this he well i'll start this by saying i straight up dropped just Jacobs in a dynasty league just for integrity reasons um like but i'm full aboard this trade man if you want to trade up neighbors and Jacobs with neighbors coming off of the injury now as good as he's looked in camp like just to get rid of uncertain pieces to have more security and stability in your roster and you know marian's one of these guys we're expecting like top five season from so if you can like lock that into your roster especially in a ppr league man like i'm all for it especially if he still has almond ron and ted aroa on this the wide receiver core like that's enough to like lock up a one in two position like test not my favorite wide receiver in the NFL but he's a volume hog and he's gonna get targets because he's the number one on that team so there's value there

1:00:26but like i love the trade like i'm like agreed like if neighbors is fully healthy all year he's probably like wide receiver five or four and if Jacobs comes back you know he's a low-end wide or running back one but i want security and stability for my running back positions and i'm all for this i love it that's it baby catamari i bet your name catamari you got conviction from Steve right there so there's your conviction um you know i can i couldn't tell you with all of my being to do it but it's got a risk of further biscuit man time wins i'll say baby quick shout out to my leaguemate kory who drafted after me should i take christian mccaffee for james cook who i took oh he's stupid all right i think we're gonna wrap that up hey you can go ahead if there's if there's links where you can do it though i mean there's you know would you just do it would

1:01:29you do it straight up i i would probably there's probably leagues where you can get james cook plus and redraft for for cmc honestly i mean you could probably get like a upgrade at wide receiver and and you know probably not with you but with somebody yeah with somebody the name still there and especially if he comes out and he's healthy week one and he looks good in the reports are like oh he missed camp on monday and like oh he's fully back and he looks fine good christian mccaffee they're gonna give him veteran rest days it's fully expected as a former christian mccaffee owner you see that cue come up to his name quite often so get used to it but um yeah agree uh anything anything else you want a plug man anything for the show you know what i mean yeah i mean with someone dynatize tonight i'm uh sitting down with bradden feoco so bradden feoco is uh you know uh hawaiian nose tackle who

1:02:32pretty much grew up he well he grew up in hawaii he's got seamy feoco so he knows seamy he's a wide receiver i think he was started with that's his cousin so they both grew up in in hawaii and they pretty much played football every day as a family you know and they both made it to the NFL eventually which is cool so we're gonna get into his story we're gonna talk about him winning the national championship with joe burrow and and jimard chase and all those guys and just being on that monster squad and eventually going to the NFL and now he does content so it's really full circle where i'm gonna talk to him about his NFL experience and then talk about how he does in content and how he translates what he's been through into content creation and then we're gonna get in a fantasy football too man so it's gonna be a fun show and that's on dynatize ff so if you guys aren't following us on dynatize on youtube go to dynatize ff and you're gonna see all the dynastity dgen's content um everything from birdhouse which is my co-host chris

1:03:36and then there's just a bunch of stuff man we're doing all sorts of devy c2c dynastie redraft we have our redraf show every sunday morning so it's a start set show kind of like the math you bury like sunday morning show where you come in we have fun with that we have different segments and then you talk about who you want to start all the listeners will chat their start sets and will answer all the questions in the chat will answer everything that you guys have on the docket um and hopefully get you set up for all the sunday games that are coming up yeah awesome and i already we've already plugged the dynatize website to a man just go check it out again uh make sure to check out player profiler.com if you guys are still new and drafts last minute like make sure to get the ultimate draft kit the world famous draft kit over there that's what i used for my dynasty rankings myself because i was new to it i needed help like with their salary they got all those over there as well but yeah man also check out our ranks on angle ranks.com new site over there we are an angle ranks expert so make sure to check out those

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