The Outlaw Mummy of Maine - A New England Legends Podcast

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We're in the area of Stickney Corner, which is as close to a downtown as we're going

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So we'll end up somewhere else on this one, right?

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it'll be worth it.

However, this, right here, Washington, is where it all started.

We're searching for a legendary main outlaw named Elmer J. McCurdy.

Hmm.

I don't know if I've heard of him.

Well, to be fair, Ray, he wasn't the best outlaw, plus he made more of a name for himself

in death than he ever did in life.

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Jeff, when I think of mummies, I usually think of ancient Egypt.

Yeah, me too.

Or Middlebury Vermont, remember way back in episode 71, we went searching for the grave

of Prince Aminare Kepachev.

That's right, the remains of the young ancient Egyptian Prince were buried a long way

from home.

Crazy story.

So, Maine has its own mummy?

It does.

An old outlaw named Elmer J. McCurdy, who was born right here in Washington, Maine, January

1st, 1880.

New Year's Day.

That's right.

1880 BC?

No, no, no, 80, you know, about a century and a half ago.

Okay, got it.

So, here's a little more background on Elmer McCurdy.

He had a rough start to his childhood.

His mum was only 17 years old.

Sadie McCurdy was her name, and she was not married at the time of his birth.

His actual father is unknown, but their speculation that his dad was Sadie's cousin, Charles

Smith.

Sadie's older brother, George and his wife, Helen, adopted Elmer to save what was left

of Sadie's social standing.

Now, Elmer's adoptive father, George, died from TB in 1890, and that's when Elmer's

birth mother, Sadie, and his adoptive mother, Helen, moved to Bangor, Maine.

That's when Elmer was told about his real parents.

Elmer did not take that news well.

This was the time when being born out of wedlock had hot to person the rest of their days.

Elmer started drinking heavily as a teenager, a problem that would follow him the rest

of his life.

So, Elmer soon moved in with his grandfather where he learned how to be a plumber.

The job suited him well enough until the economy took a downturn in 1898, and work became

hard to find.

At that point, 18-year-old Elmer became a drifter, moving around the east coast, finding work

as a lead miner, plumber, eventually made his way out to Kansas.

In 1905, he was arrested for being drunk in public, and just when it looked like he might

live out his days as some vagrant drunk, Elmer found the US Army in 1907, where he learned

how to operate a machine gun, and how to use nitroglycerin for demolition.

He was honorably discharged in 1910.

All right, got it.

Sounds like he was starting to get his light back together, thanks to the army.

It does indeed.

And to find out the rest, we're going to have to travel not only back in time, but out

of New England.

So let's head back to the year 1910.

It's early November of 1910, and we're standing in the small town of St. Joseph's Kansas.

About 40 miles northwest of Abelene.

President Taft is in the White House, and thanks to booming industry, the gilded age lives

on for the very wealthy.

However, the wealth gap between the rich and the board is getting pretty wide.

That's leading to desperation and an increasing crime.

Though the days of the wild west are mostly behind us, here in Kansas still feels a little

like the frontier.

That it does.

In this world, it takes money to make money, suddenly the idea of working hard and getting

ahead feels out of reach for a lot of folks.

One of those people is Elmer McCurdy.

After getting out of the army, Elmer and one of his army buddies makes a plan to start

robbing banks using all their know-how, so they gather up supplies.

They're gathering up hacksaws, chisels, sacks for money, gunpowder, and funnels for nitroglycerin.

The plan is to blast their way into a bank vault and make a quick escape.

Oh man, it's the sheriff.

Someone must have tipped off the law saying these guys look suspicious.

Elmer is nervous, but at the same time they haven't exactly committed any crimes.

I mean, not yet.

The sheriff places Elmer and his friend under arrest for stockpiling burglary instruments.

In court, Elmer and his army buddy stand accused of stockpiling materials to perform a robbery.

That's when Elmer explains that in the army, he was in munitions and demolition expert,

and that the pair had those materials because they were developing a new kind of machine

gun with a foot pedal, something they could sell to the US Army to help defend our country.

The crazy thing is, the jury bought the story.

The pair are free to go.

And that is how Elmer McCurdy's life of crime begins.

The pair know they need to get out of Dodge.

I mean, any explosive burglary happening anytime soon in this part of Kansas will bring

the heat down on them immediately.

It's March of 1911, when the pair roll into Lenapeau, Oklahoma, about 250 miles to the

southeast of St. Joseph, Kansas.

The plan is to target trains and banks.

It's pretty late.

Everyone in town is asleep.

Elmer and his partner are getting ready to blow a hole through the outer wall in a small

local bank on the outskirts of town.

Okay, I can see him pouring some nitro glycerin through a funnel.

All right, he's setting the charge.

Oh, wow!

That was massive.

Huge.

The bricks everywhere.

Wow.

Lights are going on at various houses around the area.

I can see some people are stepping outside it.

I think that person has a shotgun.

Elmer and his partner are running for it.

They got nothing from the vault.

They messed that up pretty good.

Looks like they used way too much explosives.

Yeah, they did.

They were lucky to not get caught or shot.

Elmer is undeterred.

This next target is the Iron Mountain Missouri Pacific No. 104 train.

Elmer is taking on three other partners for this cable.

The plan is to stop the train, locate the safe, blow it open with nitro glycerin, take

the thousands of dollars and cash stashed inside and make it get away.

They find a long straightaway and manage to block the tracks.

The train conductor has plenty of time to see it far ahead.

With the train stopped, the bandits climb aboard with guns drawn.

They quickly make their way through the train until they locate the car with the safe.

Elmer is sending the charge on the door of the safe.

We should probably back up.

Oh, it's huge.

Oh my god.

Big blast.

Yeah.

The safe was blown to bits and look, so is the money.

It's all burnt down.

Man.

So the band has managed to scrape up a couple hundred dollars worth of melted silver coins

that had fused to the walls of the safe.

The group escaped with their meager silver.

It's now September 21st.

It's been six months since the botched train vault heist.

And now Elmer McCurdy is trying again.

This time it's a citizen's bank in Shatakwa, Kansas.

Elmer and his partner have spent hours chiseling through the bank's outer wall.

Hey, hey, look, it looks like they're finally through.

Okay.

Now Elmer is placing the nitro glycerin charge on the bank's outer vault door.

Let's stand back.

Oh.

Wow.

The bank vault is in ruins.

There's wooden bricks everywhere.

But look at that.

My gosh.

The actual vault is intact.

The blast didn't get through.

Elmer is getting another charge ready for the vault door.

Look.

Look.

Elmer's look out, man.

It's running off.

Elmer grabs some of the silver coins in the vault room tray.

It's not much.

In the end, Elmer makes off with about $150 worth of coins.

He's just not good at this, is he?

Oh, not really.

Elmer heads out to see a friend in Oklahoma where he hides out for a few weeks.

It's October 4th now.

And Elmer's ready to make a huge score.

He's in Okesa, Oklahoma, and has gathered a team to stop the Katie train that will be

carrying over $400,000 in payment to a Native American group in the region.

I mean, if they can pull this off, they'll be safe.

They set for life.

This robbery will be a record breaker.

Once again, Elmer and his crew are able to stop the train.

They quickly climb aboard with guns drawn.

Wait a minute.

This looks like a passenger train.

Huh.

Well, it is a passenger train, but I don't see a vault in any of these cars.

We can quick.

Elmer robs the mail clerk, grabs a few more items, and they make a quick exit.

It's clear.

They just robbed the wrong train.

He's just not very good at this, is he?

No, he's not.

In the end, Elmer made off with $46 stolen from the mail clerk.

Two jugs of whiskey, a revolver, a coat, and the conductor's watch.

So this was a record-breaking train robbery, but not the kind of record Elmer wanted.

The newspapers called it the smallest prize in the history of train robbing.

He's not very good at this.

Elmer returns to his Oklahoma hideout.

He's sick with tuberculosis.

He's gotten pneumonia, trickin' osus, and now he's going on a drinking bender with some

farm hands with his stolen whiskey.

What Elmer doesn't know is that someone knew him on the train, and now there's a $2,000

bounty for his capture.

It's the early morning hours of October 7th.

The sun is barely coming up.

Three deputy sheriffs have tracked Elmer to his hayshed hideout.

Elmer, you come on out of there.

Elmer had been drinking all night long.

He doesn't intend to give himself up.

The deputies take cover.

They fire back into the shed, and bullets aren't flying out.

No one knows if anyone inside has been hit.

Dozens of shots are fired.

Look, someone is running out of the back of the hayshed.

And that's it.

Elmer's body was no more.

The deputies dragged his body to town and collected their reward.

Elmer's corpse was taken to the undertaker, Joseph Johnson, who embalmed the body using

arsenic as a preservative.

He shaved McCurdy's face, dressed him in clothes, then set him in his coffin in the back of his

shop, waiting for the next of Ken to claim him.

Days turn to weeks, and no one has any interest in claiming the body of Elmer McCurdy.

Locals suggest they just bury him, but Johnson wouldn't hear it.

Until he'd been paid for his services, the casket and the clothes.

And since no one wanted to pay him, Johnson gets an idea.

He begins charging people in nickel to see the body of the bandit who wouldn't give up.

Elmer's also been called the mystery man of many aliases, the Oklahoma outlaw, and the

embalm bandit.

Pretty soon this attraction becomes popular, drawing many people to Johnson's funeral

parlor, and earning him more money than selling his services, and the casket ever could have.

Carnival promoters try to buy Elmer's body, but Johnson won't sell his attraction.

Years go by.

It's now October of 1916, and a man calling himself Aver arrives at Johnson's funeral

parlor, claiming to be Elmer McCurdy's long-lost brother from California.

He'd already contacted the sheriff for permission to claim Elmer's body, and bring it back to San

Francisco for a proper burial.

Johnson shrugs, and releases his funeral parlor's main attraction.

That Johnson didn't know was that Elmer's body wasn't bound for San Francisco.

Instead, it was shipped to Arkansas City, Kansas, where the Great Patterson Carnival show

puts the body on display complete with a rifle in the corpse's hand.

For the next six years, Elmer's body tours as part of the carnival.

In 1922, the corpse is sold to Louis Sonny's Traveling Museum of Crime.

In 1933, Elmer's body was then acquired by a filmmaker to promote a movie, and by

now Elmer's skin had become hard and mummified.

After Sonny's death in 1949, Elmer's corpse found its way to a Los Angeles warehouse,

where it's sad until 1964, when it was lent to a filmmaker who used Elmer as a prop in

the movie She Freak.

In 1968, Elmer was sold to the Hollywood Wax Museum.

It was then sold to a spooky funhouse in Long Beach, California called Laugh in the Dark.

This is gruesome, I know.

But at this point, I don't think people realized that it was a human being anymore, just

a prop.

You're exactly right.

In December of 1976, the production crew for the hit TV show The Six Million Dollar Man

is filming in the area and was using Elmer's body as a prop hanging from the gallows.

When the arm of what they thought was a mannequin broke off, the producers saw human bone

and muscle tissue.

The police were called, and autopsy was performed, and the corner found a body that was petrified,

covered in layers of wax and paint, and weighed about 50 pounds.

At this point, Elmer's story was making national news.

The police began to trace back ownership through the prop houses, carnivals, and eventually

back to Oklahoma.

It was agreed Elmer should be buried in the sooner state, so Elmer's body was transported

back.

On April 22nd, 1977, exactly 23,939 days after Elmer McCurdy had been shot and killed, he

was buried in some of you cemetery in Guthrie, Oklahoma, and that brings us back to today.

That's a long way to go from a troubled upbringing in Washington, Maine.

Elmer McCurdy will forever be known as the mummy for Maine, the embalmed bandit.

Clearly, he made a better mummy than a thief.

That is true, and that brings us to after the legend where we take a deeper dive into

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So much fun, this story.

So what a way to bring in 2026, Jeff.

And we have a special guest joining us for after the legend.

Hey, Sophie, how are you?

My daughter.

Yes.

I'm good.

How are you?

Thanks, right?

Thanks, dad.

Yeah, you're welcome.

You're not professional at this point.

It's still dad.

It's not Jeff.

Sophie, Sophie Jane, professional broadcaster.

Mr. Belanger, thank you so much for having me.

That's what she calls me.

It's what she calls me at home.

Yeah, professional broadcaster here.

Look, I got a sticker too and everything.

Yeah.

Can I do a shameless plug?

Yeah, absolutely.

You should.

All right.

I'm streaming at WRTCFM.com, that's WRTCFM.com, or 89.3 if you're in the heart for an area.

Tune in Mondays from 430 to 6, and listen to Static Waves with Sophie Jane.

Wow.

Wow.

That was good.

I know.

Thank you.

I'm going to listen.

Makes me want to listen.

I have to.

Yeah.

Tell us about your show.

Well, I play a mix of rock and indie.

Many different decades across.

All mostly genres.

I've done a lot of different styles of music.

I've done a lot of themes, women in music, decades, covers.

Yeah.

Are you playing blocks?

Or could one song be so much different than the next song?

I try to keep them sort of locked together.

Yeah.

Okay.

What's the craziest block you've done?

Two blocks back to back.

Like, you said women in rock history, and then maybe blues or something like, what's the

weirdest grouping you've had of music?

Well, your decade show, I think.

Yeah.

That's been pretty strange to start with.

1950s, right?

Yeah.

1950s go all the way to 2020s.

Okay.

Yeah.

What do you think of this story, so, what do you think of like a mummy on display, until

the point where people forgot it was a human being?

I think all this could have been prevented.

I'm glad.

If you just didn't procreate with your cousins, that seems like the moral story here.

Stay away from family, man.

Oh, that's so fun.

That's a pretty good takeaway.

Yeah.

Speaking of the gilded age.

Yes.

Right.

My goodness gracious.

I love this story.

Yeah.

It was a terrible thief.

Right.

See, I love the aftermath.

Yeah.

It was passed around as long as he was thinking it was just a prop.

There was a moment, right?

There was a moment when it was just like, no, this is a guy.

Right.

And eventually someone's just like, oh, no, I think it's a mannequin or a prop or whatever.

Yeah.

And then, so, I mean, when you're in a warehouse for years, and then you find this, you're

like, oh, this would be a good prop for our show or our movie.

Right.

It makes you wonder.

Nobody asked the history of that prop?

Do you, I mean, I already know the answer to this.

Do you think he's the only human?

Right.

That's been in movies and stuff, and people thought he was a prop.

Wow.

I've never thought of that.

I've never thought of that.

Impossible that he's the only one.

So, you're watching the $6 million man.

And there is a dead body.

A true corpse.

Yes.

In that scene.

On a family show.

I feel like you need some kind of special licensing for that, some kind of permit.

I believe it's called a snuff film.

Although, no, that's if you actually show something.

You can kill somebody.

Show them getting killed.

Yeah.

So, yeah.

Similar though.

Very similar.

Yeah, you're like, oh, that's a, no wonder it looks so real.

Oh.

The movie poltergeist.

Yeah.

Famously.

So, they thought the movie was cursed, remember?

The young girl died, like the actress and stuff.

Yeah.

And one of the big beefs was that those skeletons were real skeletons.

Right.

They were not.

Those were real.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Those are real human skeletons that they got from like, you know, like you have your high school, you know, biology class.

Yeah.

Like the cadavers and stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, those.

Which may have lent to the history of that whole series.

The creeps factor.

Yeah, the creep factor.

And just all the weird stuff that happened around them.

The documentaries you can watch.

Yeah.

And the biggest one being that the little girl died.

Yeah.

Right.

Of course.

And a lot of trouble followed various people involved with that movie.

But, but Elmer McCurdy of Maine, like was blazing the trail for that, you know.

Yeah.

Troubled main youth.

Alcoholic.

Horrible thief.

Horrible thief.

Messed up everything.

You know, like, so, you know, the army's just like, yeah, he's one of ours.

And then there's like, yeah, no, he's not.

You know, like, can't you mix nitroglycerin, boy?

You know, like, but to be fair, I mean, how does one practice?

How much nitroglycerin is needed to blow open a safe, but not destroy the contents?

I guess by just doing it for the first time and failing.

Yeah, failing again.

Maybe the, what, fourth was he on the fourth attempt, maybe?

Yeah.

Maybe that would have worked out.

If we could do like 10 more of these, I think I'm going to get it just right.

And at that point, you know, you're going to get caught.

You think it practice a little bit.

Go out to a field.

Nobody around.

You would think.

Buy a safe, put it in there.

Right.

Work on it a bit.

It gets expensive.

Yeah.

That's true.

So I love this bumbling main character.

I like how he wouldn't give up the nitroglycerin.

Like, he wouldn't try another form of robbery.

Just give me another chance.

I'll get it.

I'll get it.

How about just a gun?

Give me what's in your pocket.

Yeah.

Like, that's it.

But no, he had to go with the nitroglycerin.

You got to get away quick, right?

When you're performing a caper like I suppose.

Yeah.

You ever rob a train, Sophie?

No, no.

I can't do that.

Yeah.

It's a train.

It's been a minute, as the kids say.

It's been a minute.

Yeah.

When was...

There was a movie about the last train robbery.

Remember it was with the two old guys, the two old actors?

Oh, Bert Landcaster.

Yes.

It was the other guy.

80s movie.

Jack Lemmon.

No.

It was the Jack Lemmon.

Bert Landcaster and...

Oh boy.

It was two of the big ones.

People are going right.

Dana Carvey was in that.

It was one of his first movies.

It was called Tough Guys.

Yes.

Tough Guys.

I loved that.

It was in the 80s.

Yes.

I loved that movie.

Kurt Douglas.

Yes.

I'm almost there.

All right.

I think it's Kurt Douglas.

What do I win if I get it right?

Yeah.

It was Tough Guys.

You're totally right.

Bert Landcaster, Kurt Douglas.

You win.

You win.

Who else was in that?

So you got Dana Carvey.

You played a small part of that.

It was one of his first movies.

It was way before SNL.

Dana Carvey, yeah.

You're right.

I haven't heard of this.

I haven't heard of this.

I haven't heard of this.

You haven't heard of a lot of actors.

That's true.

No.

Dana Carvey is the only one.

I can't talk about popcorn from this guy, Sophie.

Charles Durning.

Charles Durning, absolutely.

I know, Charles Durning.

He was in Tootsie.

Darlane Flugel?

No, I don't know where.

Yeah.

See?

That's all in the name, by the way.

She screwed up by using her real name.

Yeah.

Nobody's going to remember Flugel.

It's wrong to Smith.

Right.

Flugel's fun.

Flugel's rememberable.

I guess so.

Yeah.

Flugel.

Billy Barty.

Billy Barty.

The little person.

Oh, that's right.

Oh, he's been in a lot of stuff.

All right.

So okay, fair enough.

There was some people in that movie.

But yeah.

I mean, this romantic notion.

And this was a time where the gap between the halves

and the half-nots was getting big.

And when that happens in every society in all of history,

it's trouble.

Sure.

Because people get desperate.

Yep.

And so that it'll happen again.

And it's always bad.

It's always a bad outcome.

Right.

So.

We're almost at that point now.

We're pretty close.

We celebrate billionaires.

We've got billionaires and we have us.

Right.

Yeah.

Basically, there's no more millionaires.

They strive to be billionaires.

Yeah.

They strive to be billionaires.

What's the million dollar?

What are you going to do with that?

Right.

Make a car payment?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So anyway.

So working in radio.

So speaking of becoming a millionaire.

Oh, yeah.

What did they tell you at the radio stations

you were out this morning?

Run.

Run.

Run.

Yeah.

I was at the same thing.

I saw that.

Every time your dad talks about it in the extras,

I always say, yeah, it's a fun hobby.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Ray said.

He's like, you got to talk to Uncle Ray

before you let her go into the room.

It's very rewarding, though.

I love radio.

It's a lot of fun.

Yes.

And it keeps you in the music business, basically.

Yeah.

And you're keeping something alive,

which is amazing for the rest of us.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Yeah.

And people, it was cool.

I got, there was one show where I was actually

in the Hartford area and got to listen to her

instead of streaming.

I got to listen to her on the mic.

Yeah.

They can hear the car radio within the city, right?

Oh.

The limits.

They could hear far outside.

Pretty far outside, too.

Nice.

I was picking up the signal for a while.

And I just remember looking at it.

I was in jam-packed traffic.

Yeah.

And I looked around at all the cars.

And I was like, they could all listen to this, too.

Should've rolled down the window.

Hey.

Or you need like a placard for the year.

Blaster.

Yeah, yeah.

Toon in to this.

Yeah.

Staticways.

Staticways.

Monday.

436.

Give a tagline.

Give a tagline.

Do you say it's Sophie, Jane.

No.

Staticways with Sophie, Jane.

And here's my tagline.

No.

No, I don't have a guess phrase yet.

It's still working on it.

I believe it's until next time.

The bizarre is closer than you think.

Yeah.

That's her tagline.

I'm like, oh, it's over.

Wow.

You do know this show.

You do know this show.

That's amazing.

Very cool.

Well, hey, thanks for joining us.

Yeah.

I'd love to see you.

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