"The Overthrow" from TPLCC - Why I Love Club Cricket with Mutz of My Side of Cricket

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This is the overthrow power by Spongebob brought to you by the Premier League cricket club.

So welcome everybody to the overthrow powered by Spongebob once again.

And let's be blunt.

The actual cricket season never mind this county championship lock.

The actual club cricket season starts tomorrow sat the 18th of April.

And more importantly towards everyone who knows us, the Premier League start.

We've got about third of the Premier League start tomorrow.

And then they slowly but surely trip on to the calendar during the next four weeks.

For that reason we want to talk to someone who for my way of looking at things,

he's just got what I've got and he puts it out there in a completely different way to us.

He's got a lover cricket.

So join us today.

Our guest as somebody who he kills us on socials.

He's got over 100,000 bloody followers across all of his socials.

He's done an incredible job.

And your bounce of seeing him, he's that face that pops up in front of your scorecard.

He tells you all about what's going on around the country.

Mr. Mutz, my side of cricket.

Welcome to the overthrow on the Premier League cricket club.

How are you doing?

Yeah, really, really well.

And thank you for having me.

I feel like it's the pinnacle of Premier League cricket your show.

And I'm on it.

So I'm on it.

Absolutely thrilled and very county to say so.

I mean, you're right.

Really cricket is the pinnacle of club cricket, full stop in the story.

But we were just talking off air about your club that you play for.

We'll come to that a little bit.

But let's go back to the very start.

Where does this lover cricket come from?

I mean, you adore cricket.

There's no two ways about it, don't you?

Yeah.

I mean, I don't know how long you've got for the story, but I've shot a big brief.

Yeah.

I think.

I mean, I'm old.

And we used to have what three channels, don't we?

I'm not old as well.

BBC two and I TV.

And then on BBC two, you'd hear the cricket intro.

I'm not going to do it now.

But in the early 80s.

And on BBC two, that was what was on the test matches.

Summer holidays, but seven or eight years old.

And we started watching the ashes, 1981 ashes.

Yeah.

And my old man.

He couldn't believe that we were watching this.

And the person that he was.

Basically, he took us to the oval for the sixth test.

I think it was the second day he took us for.

And so I'm eight years old.

I'm going to the oval oval.

My dad hasn't got a ticket.

He buys one off the touts as he used to.

Yeah.

I mean, he'd leave us there.

He'd leave us in a corner outside the oval.

And then he went out for about 10.

I mean, he went walking around for about 10 minutes.

Came back with two tickets and a light pocket.

I remember seeing a £20 notes game over.

But anyway, we went and watched the ashes.

So I saw Dennis Lillie, Jeffrey Paul Bar, you know, Tom O.

Bowling.

And yeah, I think that's where the love affair started.

And it's a gift, isn't it cricket?

And I say this on my channel quite a lot.

It's something that's passed down.

My dad obviously came to this country near, well, not obviously.

He came to this country in the early 60s.

Didn't really have much time to play cricket.

But I've got a photo of him in a park in 1969.

In a park that I played cricket on now.

Yeah.

And he was playing a couple of games in between working and trying to provide.

My brother's the cricketer in the family.

Placed for tolerance and millions.

Good, good cricket.

So yeah, it's just that sort of, you know,

it's the romanticism of cricket.

But everything that he brings to you, the camaraderie,

you know, the chat that you have, the laugh.

I mean, I go on a pitch and I try to enjoy myself

while I'm playing cricket rather than after all before.

Which is a little bit different to how people approach cricket.

But as soon as I'm on that pitch, sometimes my wife is sitting here in my edits

and she says, how come you laugh so much?

And I'm just like, I don't know what happens.

I get on that pitch and something just happens.

And I'm surprised.

I haven't upset more people than I have because I do get completely carried away with it.

I let it, I let it, you know, I let it overtake me.

And I say to a lot of people, you know, I feel like I'm 14 or 15 or 16.

And is that not what people want when they're older to feel like they're young?

And I do every weekend on a Saturday or a Sunday.

So yeah, and then obviously I started doing this editing stuff.

I started making little videos about five years ago in lockdown.

And one went viral.

And then I thought, okay, let's have another go at this.

I never used my phone for anything but texting and calling and, you know, fat fingers and everything, you know, is.

And then for some reason, you know, people liked it.

And I've got a like a niche sort of bottle or whatever you want to call and viewers, I like to call them.

So yeah, and my brother, Riz, supported me massive every time I thought, well, I'm not doing it.

And he keeps on pushing me to do it, keep on doing it, you know, and yeah, then we started doing this premiership stuff.

Last year, I broke my toe and I was, I was in, I wasn't, you know, I was pretty sad about it because I couldn't play cricket for four weeks.

So when I hurt myself on the cricket pitch, I'm only sad because I can't play.

I mean, I don't care about the pain.

And yeah, some people started DMing me and stuff about a premiership.

And it's a rabbit. Oh, it's amazing, isn't it?

Oh, yes.

Then, like, the stories that you get from, from, from, you know, back in the day, how cricket was.

So I lived in Bournemouth for a while and there's a place called Winton Rec.

Yeah.

And it's, it's, it's, it's like an oval and it's got banking on the sides.

And the doorstep people, they used to always tell me, you know, back in the day, you know, 20 years ago,

whatever, you had five, six thousand people around this on an evening watching cricket.

Imagine that.

Just, just a normal club level game of cricket and there's five or six thousand people watching it and getting together.

Obviously, we've got the internet and whatever the atmosphere is different ways of watching it.

But that sort of romanticism.

And then the northern leagues, you know, the Lancaster leagues or the Yorkshire Premier League or the Bradford Premier League.

And then you start reading the stories, look, my hair standing up thinking about it, you know,

people walking around after the game, you know, getting whatever a run or whatever.

You've lived Richard's playing and they sometimes you get the articles.

I don't know if you do the articles, but the articles that come up from the 70s and 80s that used to be on the paper.

It's so romantic.

It's such history and tradition.

And then, you know, with it's our turn now, or it's the players to carry this on and continue it.

And yeah, it's going to change in whatever directions we've got.

We've got frog box, whatever you call it.

So perhaps this is the way it's changing that, you know, people like you and I will commentate on it and you know,

bring it a bit more to life.

But at the end of the day, it's the lads that do the graph on the pitch.

I mean, that's an old final.

Oh, God, man.

I know it was an holiday, but I mean, you know, Penn Sands, was it Penn Sands versus Olmskirt?

I was in Spain, unfortunately.

But wow, I mean, just wow, you know, imagine just being able to walk around lords and, you know, enjoyed that and the ECB letting that happen.

Again, it's just adding to this little, you know, subsection of society we call cricket that we all play and we all belong to.

And that's the belonging as a cricket art.

Again, adds to why I do it.

You've made my, you've literally made my hair stand on the back of my neck as well and that love.

We've not spoken about this ever before me and you've been at the greatest stuff, right?

You're not going to believe this.

My first ever test match was the oval 1981.

And I was living in Liverpool.

Oh, brilliant.

At my school, typical school, school thing, we had one day a year where every single child in that school went to boy school.

We all went on a day trip somewhere around the country and we went all over the bloody place.

And I chose in 1981 to go to the oval, which was a train from Liverpool very early on.

And I don't know what day we went to, can't remember.

But as a train all the way from Liverpool, down to London, getting across London, you can imagine like 30,

your boys get your scouters going down to London for the first time.

It's my first time in London.

And we went to the oval and we saw a day of that test match.

No idea what day, it doesn't really matter.

I was already playing cricket and I was already involved in cricket.

But once you've done that, different ballgables together, then I think you're right.

We romanticise it.

But actually, you call it a subsector of the population cricket.

It is because we have our own language, we don't really realise it.

It doesn't matter whether it's much down in London or whether it's Adam up in Burnley.

We're talking that language of cricket and that passion that comes across as always the same.

I think you've nailed it in what you've just done your own bloody YouTube intro there, mate.

And it's been brilliant.

I'm going to think it very hard, I'll put this.

How would you just continue to churn this stuff out?

Which is not just churn, but bloody good quality as well.

I think the GoPro when you're playing is gold.

And I can hear that you enjoy playing so much.

And it sounds like it's a bit of like, it's your outlet, isn't it?

You will pass that white line and most goes into, this is me just going to relax.

And you remind me of one of my favourite people in this world now, mate.

Vinny Sandu, Mr Maximo from European cricket.

Okay.

He's the same, when he goes on a pitch to play, relax.

That's it.

What is it about that?

I reckon there's loads of people like me that just have that, you know, the switch goes on as soon as you go on the pitch

because we love cricket so much.

And it doesn't have to be ultra competitive, does it?

No, no, I mean, I was awful.

I was awful when I started playing cricket.

I mean, I still am not great.

I mean, I played as a kid and then didn't play till I was 30.

So there was a good 15, 16 years gap.

And then I started playing in Dorset.

I was living in Bournemouth at the time.

And I played for a club called Boscom.

And we were in the bottom division of Hampshire.

So, you know, when people put on my, is that Divi 20?

Yes, we were in Divi 20s, Divi 9 or whatever at a time.

And I was terrible, absolutely terrible.

As being Asian and being stereotypical, I got, I was working for an insurance company down there.

And they asked me to play because they were one short cause I'm Asian.

I should be able to play cricket.

I told cricket as well.

So I always loved watching cricket.

So I always taught cricket.

Anyway, I played in the semi-final.

And they sent me in.

And I think they needed four runs to win off the last over.

I couldn't let off the square could I?

I got out of six balls and we lost by three runs and I was like, OK.

But yeah, so that's when I thought, OK, I can't, I can't do this.

I'm not going to play better than that.

I started practicing and whatever.

And got, got, got, got a little bit better.

But yeah.

So that's what, what, 21 years ago I've been playing ever since.

I've missed your original question, mate.

I've gone off on a silly look.

Just, just how you continue to just continue to push that stuff out.

Yeah.

Um, how, I mean, I record everything on the GoPro.

Or that's why I don't play too much on Saturday because league gets a bit.

Um, I don't want to upset any leagues.

Um, but yeah, I just, I mean, because it gets too competitive sometimes, basically.

No, no, no, no.

I'm not worried about that.

I'm happy to banter with anybody on the pitch and chat with anybody on the pitch and try to work.

But I don't want to upset the league like the structure.

Yeah.

Um, there's some, some, I've heard stories about people not being allowed to wear a GoPro,

insert and leagues.

I don't understand myself because you've got a frog box.

You've got all sorts.

You've got all these school channels that are turning that cricket and, you know,

and then I'm thinking, well, wait a minute.

I've got a, uh, a GoPro on and I've got to be honest when I wear a GoPro.

The behavior on the cricket pitch is better.

Interesting.

100%.

I mean, obviously I've got a bit of a standing and whatever.

Yeah.

So people know that, you know, potentially, it could go out and they want to behave themselves

a little bit more.

But yeah, it's funny.

And I think people try to behave themselves a little bit more.

I mean, in the early days when I played two, if you say I chatted now,

the way I used to chat because I was so rubbish at cricket, my chat was like,

I didn't stop for two hours.

I would just keep on going.

The amount of people that wanted to turn around and, you know, do something to me.

But, um, but yeah, that's calm down quite a lot.

Um, but yeah, so I record everything.

Then I started recording my batting as well.

And, um, I guess because of the way I play it, it's easy for content because

something always happens and the level that we play at as well.

And the people that I play with, um, you know, we might have one or two half decent

players, but we're always carrying something, whether it's a few extra pounds,

whether it's a knee injury, whether it's the eyesight's going or whether they're

just not good, but they, they, they compete all of that together.

Yeah.

Brings content.

And the love for cricket as well and having a laugh and enjoy it.

Yeah.

And then having, and then having like-minded teams that you can play against that

enjoyed that as well because that's really important as well.

Absolutely.

So, yeah, so nowadays we get, um, we get some really nice clubs that invite us over.

Um, like we're playing at Hoddistan on their Prem pitch.

Nice.

So, yeah, so I've got five years now of hard drives of cricket matches.

Um, you know, that's a lot of, lot of data.

I'm sure I could keep it going for another five years without recording another match.

Um, and I literally, how do I pump it out?

And people ask me, what is it in your head?

I go, no, I spend about an hour in the evenings.

I put, I go, I go, I put, I almost do a little, which hard drive should I pick?

I pick that.

Then I've to almost close my eyes and just pick a match and then find a bit of content

from that.

And there's always something.

There's always normally something or something of it.

And then sometimes you discover stuff that you never even knew was there.

Yeah.

You know, it could be, you know, it could be people as long as people can identify with it.

And they can, it can give them an emotional connection.

And we're trying to make it happy because at the end of the day, you know, things ain't great out there at the moment.

Are they?

So, you know, anything to make everyone a little bit happier or something to identify with or put a smile on the face.

Normally, they're the sort of pick boxes that I do now.

Yeah.

And then a little story, if I can.

If I can make a little story that, you know, then, then, yeah, that they're the best videos.

And this real big club cricket is, isn't it?

It's stories.

Club cricket is stories full stop in the story.

And it's where the story of your club that you, you know, was started in 1983.

Or the clubs that are started in 1847.

The stories that all just keep going on.

And the way you describe it is.

We are setting the new stories.

We're telling the new stories now, whether it be.

Callatin' turn is 111 at lords last September.

You know, some holdings, Fyfer.

You know, against the mighty Penn Zantud, you got down there and everyone thought they were going to win.

But Almsgaard came and did what Almsgaard do.

They don't lose because that's what people kept saying.

You know, that was a story versus, you know, the left arm spinner who you're wicked keeping to on an astro on a bloody cold Tuesday.

It's still a cricketed story that we love to hear.

And I think the fact that it's relatable then is magic because I think one of the key things I find from your content.

And I'm glad you said it because I think we're very similar in this.

The story is always about the person, not just about the cricket.

And I put a real out yesterday where hash, the captain of Duffield took a brilliant catch.

And I just happened to get it on video.

We all know you're not going to get it all, but I got that one.

And you know, I think I beat Duffield.

Unlucky, but you know what?

That catch is there forever now.

That catch is out there now on video forever for hash.

And telling that story and being able to do that, I feel it.

And I'm sure you do.

It's almost a privilege, isn't it, to be in that position?

Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, people, people, you know, they do ask us to put stuff on.

But, you know, a lot of the stuff we catch is that incidental thing.

Yeah.

And that's when it works.

It really does work when you just, you know, you've got your camera out.

And something happens on the pitch.

I saw the catch.

It was a great catch diving forward to the left.

Yeah.

You know, both hands rounded, decent.

And the way you walk away nonchalantly, you know, as you do.

Very nonchalant.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And that's what it's about, isn't it?

Yeah.

You know, we're not, we're not playing football here.

We're cool, aren't we?

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

But yeah, any, you know, they're the best videos.

And like I said, my first viral video in 2020 was literally that.

It was me standing at square leg.

Someone hit in the ball.

And basically, all you can't see the, the, the, the field, who's that mid on.

And he's, you know, he's gone.

F or whatever.

Yeah.

And.

But then the, the, what they call the great cricket.

They, they, they got hold of the video.

And they called it a morning.

And it was like, it was like, it was, you know, back in 2021.

And it was just like, wait a minute.

They've just dedicated half an hour of their show to my nine-second video.

Exactly.

Exactly.

Exactly.

It was amazing.

They are the doy ends of club cricket.

I mean, they are, we're, we're, we use the, the great cricket series.

I'm not going to say the benchmark because that's the wrong way to put it.

But they've done it so well over the years on what they've done to bring.

You know, the Australian cricket first and foremost, but then obviously they go around the world with it now.

And bring those stories to life.

And I love the fact that they'll pick up stuff from around this, you know, from around the UK.

The great creator will spend all this bloody summer looking at what we're putting out there going.

Oh, we love all.

That's the one for us.

Because that's what crickets about globally, isn't it?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, definitely a definite inspiration.

And like pioneers in what we just earlier talked about is how cricket is, you know, sold or, or shown to the, to the world.

And yeah, they did a great job back in the day.

And my mate was the one who was, he told me about it.

And you got to listen to this.

And that really helped in how I present cricket now.

Yeah.

But yeah, when I, when it was called the Monet, I was like incredibly nice.

I was so happy.

But yeah.

Yeah.

Come on, then.

Let's talk about your club because I've talked about it before that we started recording.

Your club is what I call the perfect club that's come out of something now.

No word.

You know, we have any stories of, you know, that I'm thinking the farmers who started club in North Darbyshire in 1847.

And it's continued and died and died.

The miners in North, you know, in South York, you started the club in 18th grade.

Great.

Your club is 1983.

Two years after you went to the Oval and me turns out, tell everyone about your club Pacific

start.

Because I think this is fascinating.

So it's, it was a record company called Pacific.

And there's a conversation in it.

It's a record.

I mean, come on.

Amazing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But 1983 group of people that worked for Pacific, you know, there was an evening league that started

and Peter Holman was, was working out Pacific.

I don't know if he owned it or he was working there.

And his son placed for Middlesex now.

Yeah.

And he started it with four or five people.

And the USP about the club was, we played throughout British summertime.

So as soon as the clock's changed, all the clocks go back every weekend, we try to get

a game, which is a good seven months or, well, good six to seven months.

We play on Astro.

We play anywhere.

We've got no real home, except we are out of the Islington.

Yeah.

In Islington, it's an interesting borough.

So there's only two pitches in Islington.

And the second pitch, you know, let's talk about chalk and cheese.

I think they called it the World Artillery pitch, which is seven.

You're not talking chalk and cheese.

You're talking.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Exactly.

That's the daily, daily two pitches that are in Islington.

It just covers Islington.

It does.

Once, once like 12 grams of high on the other ones, 92 quid.

Which one you play on?

We chose the 92 quid one.

But yeah.

So there's no, I think they used to play in Tafelon Park or whatever.

They got that they got rid of those cricket pitches.

But yeah, Pete, Pete does all the organising.

He does, he does all our pictures.

He's got a great connection of it.

Still does it.

You know, watches his son or goes and watches every middle sex game.

But you know, in the background, he does junior league cricket fixtures.

He does our fixtures.

He does loads of background work for cricket.

So we've got that passion from, from, from him.

And then us as a nomadic team, we are completely nomadic.

I think we've got on our roster about a hundred odd people.

And we're, and a lot of us are people that have come to London to work.

They're played in their village cricket or they're played in their, you know, up north,

wherever south, wherever we've got people from everywhere.

Yeah.

And different countries as well.

And yeah, you come to London.

You know, it's, you know, you socialising and stuff like that can be difficult in the big city.

And playing cricket and becoming a member of a cricket club is a really quick way of people getting together.

And it creates a lovely little vibe, which is what cricket is about, isn't it?

So, and I think that's, and then sort of every five or ten years, with Pacific,

they kind of moves on the next set of people come along and run the club.

The next set of people coming up.

So Pete's in absolute awe.

He's just like, I didn't think this club would be going for 45 years or wherever it is.

It seems like every time it sort of starts about pear ships, someone else comes along and takes over and gives it a little drive.

So yeah, so I've been doing it for like ten years.

I moved from Dorset back to Bournemouth, I'm from Bournemouth to London in 2016 again.

I moved back and then joined Pacific because my brother was playing for it.

And yeah, so I've been doing a bit of a treasury bit of this bit of that.

Now I do a bit of the social media, but we all get involved in the club.

And I mean, you know, it's great that we're going with all these clubs that, you know, people do fold and stuff,

but we've got this lovely, hackney cricket league that we play on, on, on public park pitches that you've seen that, you know.

I mean, yeah, bring some of the Premiership players on our public park pitches, yeah.

The balls start like intimate level up.

Do intimate level up, isn't it?

It would be funny, wouldn't it?

You get really one of our dodgy pitches and you get a decent ball rolling, decent batter on there.

The balls moving about everywhere.

I think it would make quite insane.

But yeah, so yeah, it's great.

I mean, like Pacific has got so much USB, so many great players, so many different types of players.

You know, a guy from India watched my channel on YouTube and then he ended up coming over to England.

And then I'm playing cricket in Haringay and there's a guy that's watched the whole game.

Like six hours, hasn't said a word to anybody and then I've gone over to him.

And he goes, yeah, I messaged you on YouTube, but you never caught back to me and I said, oh, sorry.

And then he goes, I play cricket and I want to play for you.

And he's come, he's traveled three hours, two hours on the tube to come and watch this really average game, spend six hours with us and play.

He then I had to let him play.

And the next week I said, you've got a play mate, you've done all this effort, you come from all that.

He's got two ducks in his first first two games and then banged a hundred of 60 balls.

He's absolutely amazing.

But like, you know, I, you know, I would, how would I meet this guy?

How would, how would these things happen?

So yeah, I mean, ever since doing the social media, I like, you know, got playing at Darbyshire.

Amazing.

Playing at Woodle Spa, meeting all the guys, you know, that I've got this common love for cricket.

And then doing the premiership stuff is next level.

It's just like, honestly, the next level, just just because that was one thing that I wasn't tapping into because it is really, you know, and then good cricket is we'll watch it and like almost, you know, whatever to it.

Some people really did like it.

And then doing the premiership stuff and being able to highlight it and package it the way I sort of package it and present it.

And then people DMing me about stuff and saying, do this bit or do.

And then, you know, clipping up from YouTube and then doing commentary over it.

Yeah, people have done commentary in the way that it's been presented for years.

But people don't do it in the way that I present it.

And I think, you know, you know, I mean, you and I, we've got to get too much into it.

You know, you and I know crickets a bit of a class thing.

I mean, you're from Liverpool, from North, so you know it better than anybody.

In fact, you know, that well-known cricketing city Liverpool.

Yeah, exactly.

But you know, you know, the big players did come from, you know, they were working class pairs, weren't they?

Yeah, just, yeah, just amazing.

It's a rabbit hole and a half in it.

All these leagues up and down the country.

However many there are.

And then when you chat to a few prime players, that leagues not great.

App Premiership's not great.

This is the best one.

And you're like, well, I don't know which one is the best one.

You're going to tell me your one's the best one.

Yeah, of course.

But then, I mean, you're probably the expert on it.

But then watching the, the, the, the, the, the, the.

Premiership couple, whatever.

The national club championship, the national club championship, the T20 championship, the new far numbs.

And, you know, the close club to me is one stead and snazbrook.

And I guess having Harris in the next three years ago, innocuously, just turned up to a net that I was filming someone with.

And you've watched it in snazbrook.

No, no, no, Harris, watch out.

Yeah, yeah, he was the one who turned up.

He was like 14 of 15.

I knew his older brother had played for us in the evening league, but I didn't know who this lad was.

You know, just some little red in the corner, not saying the word as you do, you know, about 15 or whatever.

And then I see him and then, and then he starts playing in the next and wow.

Just like 15 years, I'll just bang bang.

And so I learned a little bit about him, then started watching once did a little bit.

And because it's my local side, seeing them do so well.

And then people up north in the brand premiere league started reaching out to me.

Yeah, absolutely.

Come on.

Are you joking me?

The brand premiere league.

I'll read you all to me.

Like, you know, this was, you know, back in the day when I started watching cricket, you know, the Lancashire leagues away.

You know, the West Indies with riches used to play for team fight list.

And, you know, I can, I can promote them.

I was, I was absolutely buzzing.

So yeah, if I can keep on doing it.

If people want me to do it, I will definitely do it.

It's just brilliant to be able to talk about Premiership cricket or any high level cricket.

It's just lovely to talk about and expose and talk to people.

And then hopefully the big thing about it is the youngsters is trying to, you know, keep them inspired and be able to, you know,

that is a route.

Yes, it's not the greatest of routes, but you can play Premiership cricket.

And they might see you for, for minor counties and then potentially you might be able to break through.

You know, if you missed that net, which a lot of people that kind of, that I know, will miss that net, where they haven't gone through, you know, to the right schools or the right pathways.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

And not made it that way.

And not made it that way.

This potentially is the way.

And if I can highlight it.

And if someone sees it and says, you know what?

That arc is pretty good over there.

And then potentially, you know, I'm doing something nice for the Premiers as well.

It's our favorite subject here and over.

We're talking on our show.

We love highlighting youngsters.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, the youngsters that we go on and on about which to this day, I still can't believe it.

We were the first people to be talking about Thomas Rue, two and a half years ago on our show.

And now, when anyone puts it about Thomas Rue on socials, we go, oh, by the way, listen to our episode two and a half years ago.

Thank you very much.

Yeah.

You see, see these kids coming through.

We had somebody told us about him, which followed his numbers and away you go.

But we can also give you 10 guys now who are under the age of 18.

And we know that you just watch where these ones are going.

And it's with the utmost respect to the older players in our Premier League.

Watch these youngsters come through is phenomenal.

I think one of the things you've highlighted there brilliantly is that Premier League cricket now has become a lot younger game as well.

So if you go back 15 years ago, it's fair to say minor counties as it was called the no called national counties cricket.

15 years ago, the average age on there would be 30 plus.

And it was X pros and it was the guys who hadn't quite made it and died and done.

You go watch minor counties endable CA cricket now.

And these are absolutely on the edge of professional level.

And you've got lots of under 25s.

And there's a rule in there.

Eight of the players have come to a total of 200 years in their age groups under 25 to force that through.

As a consequence, what's happening Premier League cricket?

The same's happening further down there.

And I think the more we keep encouraging that, the more it's happening.

And huge sense of the degree last week, interestingly.

We are now about to hit the old star generation as well from around the clubs.

So Michael has been doing all stars since the very beginning.

And all of a sudden we're getting 15 year olds playing the third, 11 second, the 11th cricket.

And now that's going to be happening around the country.

And we're going to start seeing kids who seven, eight, nine years ago were picking up a plastic bag, doing all stars for the first time.

And it's starting to come through.

Now we know the numbers of all stars was huge.

But we also know that the period be pyramid means that there's going to be players fall off all along the way, isn't it?

But just to be able to highlight those guys and then also highlight some of the guys who haven't quite made it both drop down.

And that's what you look at the Bradford League in particular.

And the names that pop.

And you go, I haven't seen him somewhere.

And we love watching second, second diving cricket because county second alone cricket is full of Premier League players.

There's no two ways about it.

Moving it on.

Where are you going to take this mate?

I mean, you know, like me, you have a full time job.

You know, we get paid on a day to day basis.

And we do this for the love of cricket.

If we could turn it into a full time job, that's a different matter altogether.

But you've, you're publishing and promoting cricket in a way that I'm going to say I don't see anybody else do it.

Do you feel as though somewhere down the line you'd love to almost go, let's have one day a week, maybe two days a week and just do that.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, I suppose what do you think?

Do you think then it becomes something that it's a job rather than the love of?

It's really difficult.

So again, I have to do a bit of Jackaloria, a bit of a story.

So this all started in lockdown.

And it also started when my father passed away of COVID in 2020.

And feeling really, you know, rubbish.

And I work and the job that I do is really quite stressful.

So I was just walking around with a lot of, you know, stress on whatever.

And then I needed an outlet.

And then, you know, lo and behold, social media came along.

And it was a great escape, a brilliant escape.

And it was something that I was passionate about, something that I needed.

You know, I was never going to build trainsets or anything like that.

So I needed a hobby and this sort of came along.

And it became this escapism.

But if you, what I found is if you put too much into it,

then you lose that escapism and it becomes stress like your work or work.

My work's not stress.

You know, I love the job that I do.

I love the content that I make as well.

It would be, would it be nice to do it?

Yes, potentially.

However, I don't, I haven't invested it in it in the way that I could do it.

I could monetize in loads of different ways.

And I don't, you know, I could get sponsors or sorts, but I don't.

I could send out emails to loads of people and I don't.

All I do is I make content and I get views.

And, you know, I try to think about what people want to see.

So like today, after this, I am going to a, a bat manufacturer who makes bats from the tree to the bat.

So the whole process.

So for me, my viewers want to see that.

So am I going to, am I going to, I don't know.

I mean, I say to the wife now.

And again, you know, should we take a year out and you just film me and she just tells me to do one.

No, we're not doing that.

Yeah.

But yeah.

So mine now, my next goal at the moment is I'm trying to get enough money together to get my team sorted.

Because my front two fell out.

And two years ago, I got hit by a cricket ball, surprise, surprise.

And then last year, it was loose for ages.

And I'm out work doing a, a supervision or whatever, one to one.

And I said to the person that I was doing that to, I've got just popped out and I popped out.

And I just literally went like that.

My tooth came out of my hand.

So, so my mission at the moment, my goal is that.

But then having thought about that, I kind of like the look now.

Well, recognize you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's kind of becoming by little digging it.

I don't know anyway.

But it is embarrassing.

But I don't know where I'm going to go with it.

I really, really don't know where I'm going.

I take it year by year, day by day.

Like I said, last year in July, I was, you know, didn't know what was coming along.

And all of a sudden, I started doing this play cricket stuff.

Me chatting about Premiership Cricket or anything that people DM me.

That was interesting that I knew that people would like.

And I would do it one and put it out there.

But is there a whole, I'm not a hack.

I'm not a journal.

I never, I don't want to be, I don't want to do, you know,

I want to try to be authentic in how I do it.

And where it goes, it goes, mate.

And, you know, if I can, if I can carry on doing this with that,

it being stressful for the next 10 years.

That would be amazing.

Yeah.

Do you know what I mean?

Especially where I love that life.

Yeah.

I love that.

Who knew I could be doing this at this time in my life?

Like we're both in our 50s.

We're both in our 50s, mate.

Yeah.

We'd be described as the non-social media generation.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Let's be honest.

Me and you between us were pretty much older than most of the content creators

out there in terms of what we do.

Yeah.

But actually, we all have the same passion.

We all have the same thing we're looking at.

And, yeah, if we can make a few quit out of it down the line, happy days.

But what we don't want, as you say, is that stress off.

I almost do this.

I must do that.

I must do this.

You have enough of that in your day job.

And that, you know, that, I think using it as that, you know,

that literally that valve that you can just release pressure is what it is.

And I think the beauty of what you've done is, let's be brutal about it.

It doesn't matter what the story is.

It doesn't matter if it's dived nine in the Dorset League,

or it's Bradford Premier League, you know, or the, you know,

the Ray Digwin trophy in Liverpool.

If there's a story that comes out of it and you go, I like that.

I'm generally, if you like it, your followers are going to like it, isn't it?

And there's so much out there, though, every game has got a story.

Like, literally, you just got to bring it to life with this, with this, you know,

the video and stuff like that, you know, the, the ten all out from last season.

And, you know, and you've got to pitch it in a way that it's not embarrassing to everybody

or to the other opposition.

And I can find that balance somehow that is fun.

It happens to pick the ball was moving left, right and center.

You know, I mean, some days you get it like that.

And, you know, it got 200,000 views or 300,000 views.

Yeah.

And then I tell you another, I just got to, I forget the guy's name and he's going to,

you know, he's not going to be happy about it.

But I put a video on recently where a 14 year old carried his back.

And then last year, he's playing for Radlit in the print.

And he like three years ago, he was paying, okay, he starts on Sunday.

I know his dad and whatever city I see, I can remember his dad's name.

I can't, it's not coming to me.

It's, it's Sunday.

But then he's paying for Radlit back in at five.

And he scores his first 100 in the print.

And I'm like, come on, that's brilliant in there.

Or Leo Davis.

The storage, you know, potentially what a, what a player, you know,

and I got to play against him when he was 14 or 15 years old.

And, but now he's 18 or I've got what's that, that lady for place with Northamptonshire Kemp.

Leo Kemp.

Amelia Kemp, you know, I played against her three years ago.

You know, just, it's brilliant, isn't it?

It's just like, come on, you know, you see the youngsters.

I played with them a few years ago and now they're doing really well.

Or someone like, there's a guy called Chris Blake,

who plays for Burridge in the Southern Premier League.

And he was, and they won it last year.

I've known, I've known Chris since he was 14 years old,

whatever came up to me and go, I know, you're mixing.

Yeah, this was into the Bournemouth.

And now, you know, he's got family and kids and whatever three kids.

And he's won the premiership.

It's just so nice, isn't it?

Those little stories like that.

Seeing people do so well.

Yeah, we, we found over the winter.

I mean, the winter for us is, shouldn't say this really, should we?

But we do.

We love the winter almost more than the summer.

Because the stories through the winter that I go along is great.

And we don't have to talk about that fighter and that 100 in that.

We can talk about what we want.

And the big one for us, of course, is the transfers around the Premier League.

The fact that there's been 800 plus transfers around Premier League cricket this year.

Wow.

And I love it when I get a DM or a text from someone saying,

thank you for putting my name on the Premier League website.

But that's what we do.

You know, we want to announce as many of these transfers around the country as possible.

Because people love it.

You know, every Tuesday night at eight o'clock during the winter

when we put the transfers off our website goes straight away.

Because everyone, I literally can watch you go click, click, click, click.

It's like great.

And it just builds that sort of energy towards where we are now,

starting the season tomorrow when I think it's 11 leagues get going tomorrow.

And all of a sudden, then, the northern leagues are playing.

We have to wait a bit longer for you.

So the list to get going.

Obviously, which does drive us potty because the weather might just be the same down there.

But you don't play.

But at the same time, you're better than us down south.

So you just play those games as simple as that.

But we, that building that energy and just keeping it going all the way through.

And I think what you've done with the Premier League stuff over the last year in particular

is just throw those.

I mean, I think you did one on Hoyland's way when they scored that ridiculous score.

And Ben Kohler, Cadmore went mad for the afternoon and stuff like that.

And that, that for us was great because we were interviewing Ben two days later.

And you'll put it out on your socials.

Happy days.

And I think there is not going to be a weekend starting tomorrow without a story.

And that's the way I look at it.

You know, 22 weeks.

Hugh and I love it.

Every Tuesday will sit down with Taff from Crick X and will go right.

This, we don't need a script.

It's so easy to do that weekend weekend, isn't it?

Yeah.

I mean, yeah, you guys are amazing with the stuff.

I've got so much information from you or backed it up.

And when I started doing the best overseas, that got a lot of traction.

And I've got a lot of the information.

Well, I've got most of my information from your website.

It's amazing.

And just that, I mean, you know, loads of us like stats that we watch this,

you know, test match stats, this, that, but apprenticeship stats are well interested.

You know, and you see the loyalty of some of these players that have played for the same cup of 30 years,

they put their heart, soul into that community.

The 20,000 club.

The 20,000 club.

That says it all doesn't it?

That's just amazing stuff.

And the DMs that I was getting from around that.

But yeah, and it's the back story is that, isn't it?

It's their heart and soul that has gone into that club and they're scoring runs for them.

And they're doing well.

So what I can't let alone me or you, large it up for them.

Exactly.

Exactly.

You know, it's, you know, it's a lot, it's a lot about England, isn't it?

You know, it's a green, green grass that we're going to play cricket out there and join a cup of tea going to the bar afterwards,

you know, getting ready beforehand.

It's very traditional.

It's very conventional.

And I love it.

I love that part of cricket.

And I think we all love that part of cricket, don't we?

Just getting together with the likes.

And I think he talks about one of your podcasts or whatever.

The game traveling to the games and like with the Prem, you have to travel quite far a lot of the times.

Yeah.

Especially in this Essex league or whatever you do, or the East Anglia league because five understanding that a little bit more.

But yeah, hopefully, you know, I'll get some DMs around that and people want to watch it.

And I'll, I'm not like I said, I'm not playing too much Saturday cricket.

And this, this year, so I'm hoping that I can go and watch some of the Premiership.

And stuff.

And they want me to come around or whatever.

Yeah.

And watch their games and stuff.

Yeah, that'd be amazing.

But yeah, I'm meeting, meeting more and more people.

I'd say, Harris, Usman, the second tour.

I mean, the boy can hit a flip.

Can he hit that ball?

Man, wow.

I'm just so awesome.

And just getting up close to it.

You, you've had one stage, one of the guys who I've seen hit a ball harder than anybody else in the country.

Yeah.

Just unbelievable.

I know you've, you've, you've rejected.

I mean, bloody hell.

Yeah, I'm, I'm definitely going to catch a few of their games this year.

But yeah, just, I mean, I'm, just, anyway, you've got to see these youngsters play.

And it is about youngsters.

I do think that I know there's a sense of belonging in a lot of first teams.

They're the same old faces and it's harder to get in.

But you, you talked about it earlier.

I think it's more and more important that these youngsters do get in.

I know it will put the, the, the nose out of joint or whatever the saying is for a lot of the established players.

But, you know, cricket moves on.

It's not about your little circle or whatever.

Sorry, I probably getting a little bit.

But yeah, it's not about that circle.

It's not about the first team.

100% going over there and sitting in their own circles, which I used to see a lot of.

And they're kind of different.

No, we're all one big club.

The first team, when you finish, you should be coming over and watching the fourth team,

enlarging it with the fourth team.

I love that.

Yeah.

And, you know, the clubs that do that are the ones that are going to be thriving.

The ones that aren't going to do that, you know, you're not, you're going to end, you know,

it's very.

100% cricket club.

So it's that culture is in it within the club.

Have that sense of belonging.

Have that inclusiveness that come along and then played good competitive one cricket.

Easy in the hot summer.

Taking fresh air in.

It's a, come on.

It's, you know, in this, in this world where I'm mental health.

You know, it's a no brainer isn't it?

Get involved, put your boots back on.

And what I don't like is, you know, when these good players, they get to about 35 or whatever,

and they say, yeah, I'm not going to play anymore.

I can't, you know, I can't, you know, play at that level with those old boys and little kids.

I'm like, really?

I mean, why not?

Give back.

You don't have to pay every weekend.

Get involved.

There's a kid there that saw you at four years old playing.

He's 11 or 12 years old or whatever.

And he wants to learn from you.

So give it back to them.

100%.

That circle of the gift or whether it's the watch cricket.

Otherwise the game would have stopped 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago.

It's been going on forever, hasn't it all the time?

Yeah.

Let's, let's finish off with me on a real positive for you this year.

I'm hoping I'm going to ask this question right.

How much are you looking forward to playing in the content creator's cup

at the incredible Aaron Little Castle?

I can't get picked first.

Right.

If we say I do get picked because it's changed, doesn't it?

We, we, I'm really looking forward to it.

Even if I don't get picked Aaron, I'll be really upset.

I will try my choice at the prep.

But yeah, I'm really looking forward to it.

Hopefully it's a lovely day.

It's definitely one of those, those grounds that I would never have

a message that I'd be able to play out.

It's just like, hopefully it'll be amazing.

It's in, it's in August.

So, prime time, whether wise, get everybody together.

Four teams together have a laugh, see all of us again.

And have that banner again, which we've had for the last two years.

But yeah, the, the, the actual location.

Wow, it's another one.

And I mean, take the box.

Playing at, playing at County Ground.

You just like underlights and then winning.

I mean, taking a diving catch underlights.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Well, that was in the day time, wasn't it?

Well, I deleted all the video from my GoPro because I'm,

that's the sort of person.

That's what I'm like.

Like, I am terrible.

Like, I, you know, with organizing stuff, I'm not professional in

any way.

I deleted the best catch I've ever taken of my GoPro because that's

the sort of person I am because I don't know what's going.

I can barely see without my glasses as well.

It's all quite funny.

Yeah, Aaron.

Thanks for having me play.

It's there forever.

Oh, those guys.

I mean, MV play.

Just taking it to the next level.

I mean, the work that they do at the content.

And the figures that they bring out.

And, you know, and the other, and the other guys as well.

It's brilliant, isn't it?

And just across the world, when you watch even the Australian stuff

or whatever, it's our well done.

Well, MV, especially MV, because they made it accessible and

reachable, you know, and the way they've done it is next level.

And, you know, it feels a bit more than about making money.

It's a bit more about bringing crickets to everybody,

which is why I love what MV have done.

Sorry, I just picked them up quite a lot.

I've got no.

That's right.

And one of our partners.

So we have no issue with that whatsoever.

That's what crickets all about, definitely.

A, absolutely amazing to chat with your moths about your love of cricket.

I mean, if anyone wasn't sure what moths was about, listen to this.

If any wasn't sure why they love cricket, listen to this.

And if anyone's maybe falling out of love with cricket,

or what, one or two people do over the years, listen to this.

Because this will actually just make your heart and the hers

on the back of your neck stand up again and go,

you know what, let's get going.

Can't wait to see where we go with the Premier League this year, mate.

Yeah.

But it'd be great to see where we go, mate.

Thanks for your time.

Cheers.

Be a pleasure.

Thanks for having me.