The Patrick Madrid Show: September 10, 2026 - Hour 3

0:00Hi Patrick Madrid here. Thanks for listening. Check out charity mobile and prayerfully consider making them your wireless carrier. Mention offer code Patrick and get a free phone. Go to charitymobile.com This conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Compelling insights. Unpredictable conversations. Encouragement for your day. It's the Patrick Madrid show on Rowland Radio. This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it. You want to have some fun Cyrus? Yeah, yeah I want to have some fun. Now, you really want to have fun or you just saying you want to have fun? I'm just saying I want to have fun. All right, well I really want to have fun. And we're going to have fun right now. So welcome back everybody. This is the Patrick

1:00Madrid show. The number is 888 914 9149. Now in the first hour of the program. Good morning Gabby. Nice to see you here. Good to see you. Buenos dias. Gabby's call screening force right now. And she's beat red. Oh yeah. Yeah. At least I don't drag her on the air. I would never do that to somebody who didn't want to be on the air. Lucky. With maybe one exception. Okay, so let me set the stage here. So this is fun in the in our one we're talking about AI. And I mentioned that I had received an email from a listener. Maybe it was you who said to me and I wish I could find this email. I don't know why I can't find it. It's just like every time I want to quote something like that. It's hard to find. But we have so many emails that's just lost in the shuffle there. But anyway, the email said some regarding some opinion that I hold on some issue. And I don't

2:03remember now what it was. Purgatory, Halloween. I don't remember. But the person said there's a fake AI video out there on YouTube, I guess, in which Fulton Sheen is disagreeing with me, not not with me by name, not by, you know, he doesn't mention my name. But just saying that the opinion that I hold is not true. So I thought, okay, well, and then Cyrus brought up, well, deep fakes, and you know, you can use AI to do just about whatever. So I thought, okay, well, I'm going to try that. So during one of our two minute breaks, I jumped onto Grock and I said, okay, Grock, I want you to create. I'm going to read you the exact prompt that I put into Grock here. So I told it and waiting for it to load here. So here it comes. So here's my prompt. I said, where is it? Create a brief black and white video of Fulton Sheen on his television program, saying that he disagrees with Patrick Madrid's opinion on Halloween.

3:08And Cyrus within three minutes, it had created a snippet from Life is Worth Living Archbishop Sheen's television program. And he says, I disagree with, he says that he disagrees with me, but it's not in his voice. So I only had like 90 seconds to do this. And I said, can you clone his voice off the internet? And it said, no, you need to give me some information on that. And then I ran out of time and that was the end of it. So he got halfway there. And so I shot it over to Cyrus. And Cyrus, you shot it over to the great Neil Robbins, didn't you? That's the first thing I did. Yeah. Yeah. And he ran with it. So you want to take it from there and explain what happened at that point? Right. So Neil can take the official Bishop Sheen voice. And he put that into whatever programmer

4:12that he's using. And the script, the Patrick wrote, you know, basically, no, AI wrote the script. Oh, I told it was make him say something against. All right. All right. And we have it. I mean, should we play this? Let's play it. Now, this is the video of Archbishop Sheen disagreeing with me, which never happened. Which never happened. Let's be very clear. All right. Here we go. To the shadows. Wow. How did I mean, I'm immortalized. Am I like a third class relic? Because Archbishop Sheen mentioned my name. How did he know 50s? How, how, when did this? He died in 79. Wow. Almost 50 years ago. Wow. How did he know what he was going

5:14to be? What your thoughts were going to be about Halloween long before you had them. Over 70 years in the past, he knew that I would say something that he disagreed with. Now I didn't say that. Nor did he. But if you, let's just say you saw that on the inner webs, you're cruising through YouTube, for example, or that showed up on TikTok. And you see Archbishop Sheen with his regalia in front of the blackboard in black and white with that full machine voice. And you didn't know that that was AI. You wouldn't know that that's AI. Would you? No, it sounds real to me. I wouldn't know. Neil Robbins is a genius. He certainly is. Go and play some Neil Robbins music. He's got his own theme song. I don't have that. Guess you do. It's right over there. Push that button over there. Come on now. Do it for Neil. I think I can. I think I can. I think I can.

6:15Yeah. He's looking for the button. No. No. You didn't specify what Neil and we're not going to the break. All right. When you can get around to it, I'm looking for the Neil Robbins pledge drive music. When he comes bursting into the studio with good news as he sometimes does, that Neil Robbins music. You get some sick pleasure of watching me scramble. I like you. When you're flailing, is there something pleasing about it? Please love us so much. There is something pleasing about it. I still have it. You go. All right. All right. Well, that's my consolation prize is you flail and you don't get it. That's better than flailing and getting it. Fair enough. It's why you deserve it. Let's go to Tony and Salisbury, Merrill and DeLotone. Hi Patrick. I think you and Cyrus are wonderful. I appreciate you.

7:19Thank you. When I have the chance to listen to it. Thank you. My question is recently my parish has discovered that the wine we were using for the Eucharist had elderberries in it, along with the grape juice, grape wine. That was a illicit matter. I believe or invalid. I'm not sure which it is. It's both. Someone in the parish told me that because that was invalid matter. All of the hosts that were consecrated at the same time. Is that accurate? No. That's not accurate. The hosts are consecrated moments before or yet moments before the cellus is the contents of the cellus is consecrated. Therefore, even though the mass itself as such would be illicit and there is a, you might say a component of invalidity to the mass because the precious blood was not present.

8:23Nonetheless, the consecrated host, the bread that was consecrated was valid. It's a real problem. That's why Catholic parishes, of course, are required, typically by a diocesan custom, to purchase altruines from a trusted source where we know that the altruine is grape wine with nothing added to it, no fortification, no additives, and that it has at least, I forget the threshold, but I think the minimum threshold is about 10 or 11% alcohol, or at least maybe the percentage is slightly lower than that. That's what is necessary for the valid matter for the precious blood. In that case, the person who told you that is on the right track, but is mistaken by saying that therefore the hosts are not validly consecrated. That would not be true.

9:27Well, that is certainly a relief because supposedly this has been going on for several years. So at least I know that all of those hosts were actually Jesus, and I really appreciate your wisdom, Patrick, and your wonderful show. Thank you very much. You're your most welcome. Thank you. I'll offer a, thanks your call. I'll offer an editorial comment on this. The bishop of the diocese, if he's not already aware of the problem, he should be made aware of the problem. Certainly the pastor should be made aware of the problem now. I'm not here to point your fingers. It's not for me to determine who is at fault here, but somebody is at fault. Somebody, either knowingly or unknowingly, introduced into the sacristy, not some wine that's not grape wine. And therefore, by doing so, it caused this really serious problem,

10:28because you have what amounts to material idolatry, people adoring Jesus in the precious blood when he's not really there. Now formally, they're not guilty of a sin because they didn't know. But this is where the vigilance of the pastor has to be strong. Now, I'm not suggesting that the pastor is the one at fault here, but somebody, either waitingly or unwittingly, did this. So that's why just as a public service announcement, and pastors already know this, bishops already know this, they certainly don't need me to say it. But for those who might not know for the sake of the kind hearted layperson who thinks, well, I'll do the parish of favor, and I'll bring some wine from my home to put in the sacristy in case they run short, and then at wines of getting used, don't do that. The wine should come, and the same is true for the altar breads as well, but the wine should come from a trusted approved source. So you don't have problems like this. And that's why the local

11:30Catholic good store in your city or town, which often is the one that supplies the altar breads in the wines for parishes, that's why what they do is so important because then you make sure that you've got valid matter, and you don't have problems like this enough. Let's go to E Frank in the story in New York, E Frank hello. Yes, hello Patrick. Yeah, I have a question that has always confused me, but it never confused me when I was an altar boy because the pastor assigned when I was an altar boy was a priest that was later convicted for Chamolistation, and he worked with the chancellor of the diocese. So I was never confused of this fact, but you know they always told me that to pray under Vatican one when masses were not tolerated during the week, and then Vatican two is for people who were understanding of the change. Now what confused me, Patrick,

12:37was that why did they actually make that change? From Vatican, I don't sure if I would change your referring to, you mentioned daily mass, is there a change about that that you have in mind? Yes, why did they change to daily mass and Vatican one did not tolerate daily mass always? Well, I mean daily mass was a common thing before Vatican two. There was nothing unusual about a daily mass. Are you talking about at the parish, like the parish offering daily mass? Okay. Yes. I don't know the answer to that question. I could speculate, but daily mass was certainly a thing before Vatican two. I know that my parents when they were kids went to daily mass, when they went to Catholic schools. By the time I was going to Catholic school, the council had already

13:40happened. So I went to daily mass when I was attending Mission Salon Capastron. I served the Latin mass every day, and that was post Vatican two. But what's interesting is a little side note here, is the pastor that parish had received an adult from the pope, along with other pastors above a certain age. I forget now what the age was, but the pope said for pastors above a certain age, they don't have to make the change to the new mass. But when they retire, then whoever the incoming priestess has to do that at the parish level. And so the pastor of the parish, Munscene, your Vincent Lloyd Russell, as I remember his name, he maintained the custom of daily mass, the low mass, of course, Monday through Friday. So that tells me that that was certainly the custom. And there wasn't a change. For example, the Vatican, the second Vatican council didn't mandate that parishes must have daily masses because there were daily masses already before

14:42that. So that's my thought on what you're asking. Yes. My deceased, uh, month senior John Jay Henigan would explain that to me when I was an altar boy, but he said that he believed it was a better idea to keep things under Vatican one when he was the pastor until, you know, they changed to a new pastor. That's what he told me when I was an altar boy. Yeah. Maybe he was of the age that he too was granted that adult by the pope. I don't know. I know our pastor was at that time. So that's what I've got today, you Frank. Interesting question though. Thank you for that. Let's go to Joe now and mount prospect, Illinois. Hello, Joe. Good morning. I'm wondering if you've come across anything about networks TV, for example, ABC being allowed to use God's name in vain. Twice in the past three weeks, I've heard of some of your college mentioned Dolly Parton and ABC aired nine to five,

15:43the movie a couple of Sundays ago. And twice in the movie, I noticed that ABC did not bleep out, you know, the word God followed by damn and followed by it. And I also noticed it was on a game show with Jimmy Kimmel, some kind of celebrity thing. So I'm wondering, I've never heard this before on TV and network TV and nor on ABC, rather CBS or NBC. So I'm wondering if you've come across anything about this. And by the way, I'm assuming that using God followed by damn, damn it by it is a violation of some certain kind of man that's correct here. You are that is indeed a violation of the second commandment to keep holy the Lord's name and not to use his name in vain. Well, these are matters for I guess historians of modern media and I'm not one. But I do understand that the FCC is the one that controls the and and and sets the standards and rules for

16:46things like profanity on the airwaves. So without doing a Google search or without looking at, you know, and like Grock or something, what I can say is that that has evolved over time and that things that were not permitted before are permitted now. And that's certainly one of them. When they made this change, I don't know, I'd have to look it up. But anything that would be considered indecent or profane or obscene early on was not permitted at all. And this is a trope. It's really it's a fact, but it's become something of a of a trope, I guess. And that is that using the the I love Lucy TV program as an example that according to the sensor standards for television back in the 50s and even into the 60s, I guess they were never allowed to show bathrooms, toilets in television programs like that. And if you remember the I love Lucy show, they their bedroom always

17:46had two separate beds, two separate twin beds. Remember that. And that was an FDC requirement where you couldn't show a single bed because it would suggest the obvious, which is normal and standard, but you couldn't suggest that to the viewers by having a single bed. And that of course changed. So how these things evolved or when they changed, I don't really know, I'd have to look it up, but it used to be more stringent. All right. And I didn't have another question, be up time. Sure. And I don't know if you've come processing your studies or right after the cancer curation. So a couple of years ago, you know, the church added St. Joseph, you know, the blessed mother and her his and her spouse. I'm wondering if you've come across why and how is it that the church used the word spouse instead of husband? Yes, I would have to look that up, but the term spouse

18:50sponsor in the Latin is the term that is used in the Latin translation of Catholic theology. St. Thomas Aquinas uses that term. I would have to do a little checking. I do believe he also uses the specific words for husband and wife. But the term that's used in St. Thomas's summa theologie is spouse, sponsor, and it can refer either to either one. I think it is, here's my presupposition here. It didn't become an issue until more recent times when people rebelled against gender-specific terms and began using spouse as a way to avoid saying husband or wife because they didn't want to identify like a specific sex male or female. But prior to this weird, you know, ideological nonsense, it was never really an issue.

19:50So to use spouse was completely legitimate and understandable and carried no modern connotations with it. It didn't carry any, let's not be gender-specific connotation with it. It was just a term that was used that way. It's okay, all right, thank you. Glad we could settle that. Appreciate the call. 88, 914, 9149. This is a good time for a break. We'll do that and we'll come back. If you want to be on the air call that number. 88, 914, 9149. This is the Patrick Madrid show on relevant radio and the relevant radio app. Hi, Patrick Madrid here. Thanks for listening to my podcast. In today's crazy world, finding companies that align with your Catholic values is a challenge. Your choice of cell phone provider matters. Cyrus and I switched to charity mobile and you should too. Enjoy excellent coverage on America's most reliable network while supporting a pro-life, pro-family company. Use offer code Patrick for a free phone. Don't miss out.

20:55Act now at charitymobile.com. Our show sponsor, Avi Maria Mutual Funds, offers a prospectus where you can find out more information about how you can invest your hard-earned money and avoid supporting immoral issues. Info at AviMariaFunds.com. That's AviMariaFunds.com. Welcome back to the Patrick Madrid show on relevant radio. Have a question. Give Patrick a call. 88, 914, 9149. That's 88, 914, 9149. Patrick Madrid on relevant radio. Cyrus, you have an update for us on the profanity that's permitted on the airwaves by the FCC, don't you? I do. Yeah. And so I'm a little hesitant to repeat the words that were used in television. God is one word followed by. Yeah, followed by the V. Yeah.

21:56And so, or I'll just go through it here. So in the 50s and 60s, you know, you could, hell was like a, that was a, maybe you could get away with it, but it was, it was very shocking to hear. Depending on the context. That's exactly right. And then in the 70s, all in the family, they would use hell and damn, in a, in a regular use. And, and it was Mary Tyler Moore, who said, oh, my God, on her sitcom. And that was the first time that was permitted. That's the first time I'm seeing it. And it was, it was, it was, it was notable. It wasn't just, you know, what would be considered today, just like background noise. Right. And then in the 80s, I guess there was a show called Valley Girl. And another one, Moon Unit Zappas. Oh, that's a song. That was too hit. Right. So it was used there. Oh, my God, was used there quite a bit. And then in 1988, LA law used the, the, it was a script, it was scripted, you know, GD,

23:06the, the, the part where it was, was in the script. And so that was, that was still a line-crossing moment. It made waves. And then believe it or not, can you guess what show in the 1990s? For, for, for vanity? For, well, yeah, for, for blasphemy for, oh, you know, oh, my God. I mean, it could be any number of shows. It really could, but friends, friends made a regular use. It was, it's, they say over and over and over again. Terrible. Yeah. I'm gonna, I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna reveal something to you, Cyrus. I never, in my life saw an episode of Friends. Not even once. Good. I've seen, I've seen snippets on the YouTube's, but I'd never actually watched an episode of Friends. Good for you. I'm in the minority in that I've, I've seen enough, but I never liked it. And I have a, you know, we like memes. We'll send memes to each other.

24:06I like memes. I won't use, I like tacos. And I like memes. I won't use a Friends meme, even though there's some great, there's some great ones because Friends don't let Friends watch Friends. That's a good way to put it. I thought you're gonna say Friends don't let Friends drive Fords or Friends don't let Friends drive Chevy's, but that's another conversation for another time. That's for, and I have no horse in that race. And yeah, so it was really, it started to break down in the 1990s. And now you can't get a, I don't think you can get away from it just on, on regular television. Is there any show that doesn't have a gay character nowadays? I don't know. I don't know. Do you know when the first gay character was permitted? I know there was a show soap. Yep. And I don't know if there's anything before that. Billy Crystal. That's right. Played. My voice has given me trouble. Sorry. He played a gay character for the first time, 1977's when that started. And it was a big hollow blue. And then at the same time,

25:11and I never saw soap either. And then there was another show called Mod and how I detested the character of Mod just detested her. I wouldn't watch that show either. But they rode into the plot for one of the episodes that she gets an abortion. And that was the first time that topic was dealt with on network television. The more you know, right, Cyrus? Yeah. It's, you know what? It boils down to television's not a safe place. So don't, don't set your kids in front of a TV or certainly don't set them in front of a tablet and leave them alone. Because they're, they're going to be subject to the worse things imaginable. Yeah. By the way, I want, thank you, Cyrus. I want to clarify. I was talking just, just before we had to go to the break, I had a question about spouse and wife and husband. And I was talking about the Latin root of the word spouse that we have in English, which is sponsor. That's the

26:15the feminine sponsors would be the masculine. And that indeed is the word, the Latin word from which we get the word spouse in English. But I wanted to clarify a little bit more because those two words also do indeed mean husband and wife. So sponsor the feminine. It's where we get the word spouse, which is what I was talking about. But it also can be used in his understood in Latin as the wife or the bride and sponsors the Latin or the masculine version of the Latin as bridegroom or husband. And I didn't touch upon that because the question was did St. Thomas use, that was the point I was making, did he use gender neutral or gender-specific terms? Those are the terms that he used. But we have a direct derivation of our word spouse from those words, sponsor and sponsors. There is another word though. And I wanted to look this up to double check myself. And that's Konyuk's, C-O-N-I-U-X. Now that is a gender neutral term. Now I

27:23didn't do a check to see how often St. Thomas, for example, or St. Augustine before him, used the word Konyuk's in their writings that would be an interesting thing to find out. But that is another alternative if indeed they wanted to say something that was gender neutral. So there you have it. 88, 914, 9149. Let's go to Tiffany now in Southern California. Hi, Tiffany. Hello, good morning. Yes, hi. Welcome. Hi. So I have two questions. I'll be quick. I don't know if I'll be quick. My first question is sometimes like, how do you continue having faith or persevering when you find yourself kind of like making kind of like, you know, committing not, yeah, committing the same sins or habits, for example, I talk a lot. So sometimes I, no, not sometimes let's be real. I can easily fall into gossip and I'm like, oh my gosh, I did it again. There's no excuse for

28:24gossip, obviously, but it can be very easy. Like, you know, with something like a habit, like, like, oh, I usually talk about these sort of things and then you can fall into it again. And then my second question is I can definitely think like, okay, the only people who need God are, sorry, this is gonna sound a sense of, but maybe people who are losers in this life, I always think like, oh, you know, it's easy for me to meet God when I'm struggling with finance. And I always think like, oh, if I was beautiful, rich, I'm healthy. Thank God. But like, you know, beautiful, rich, healthy, wealthy, just all these things, more intelligent, more charismatic. Like, oh, wouldn't really go to God, what I really, because I guess nobody really likes feeling vulnerable that you, like, you know, need God or you need even just not even just God or you need other people for help. There's certain people who just seem to like, you know, they haven't put together. It was, you know, they've never really, well, I don't know, you know, everybody looks good from the outside, but there's certain people who just seem to never, you never see any moment of weakness of vulnerability. And I'm just like, oh, I get jealous. So as you could tell, there's certain

29:27vices, I find myself gossip, comparison, envy. And even sometimes, I'm gonna be honest, sometimes people even compare myself to, I know they're probably not, they're not all that nice, but it just seems like, oh, man, like, they really got it together. Like, if I waste my time trying to be a good person, there was no, let me ask you a question, Tiffany. How much time do you spend looking at Instagram? Okay, we're question is that? It's a nosy personal question, but you don't have to answer, but here's the thing, if you are seeing a steady stream of these curated pictures, whether it's from mommies or quote unquote influencers, I hate that term, or whoever else, you're being conditioned to compare yourself to those curated pictures where the makeup is perfect. I mean, let's face it, one of the most common pictures or avatars that women nowadays on social media have is of them sitting in their car, they take a picture of themselves sitting in

30:33the driver's seat of their car with their phone, and you know that it is the most perfect flattering picture they could take, they make sure that they get just the right shot. I mean, that's our culture and it's not just women, of course, but I see that it's almost like it's a law that a woman has to take a picture of herself sitting in her car with her cell phone. And the reason that we do that is because we want to put our best foot forward, you want to put like my picture that I would use for a publicity picture or something, my hair is combed, I'm wearing, you know, decent clothing, I'm clean, shave, and I don't have three days growth of beard or anything like that because I want to look presentable, I want to look my best for a public, there's nothing wrong with that. But the reason I ask you about Instagram is that it's an engine of envy. It can create those very feelings that you're talking about because it induces you to compare yourself to what you see in these other pictures, and if you consume enough of that, that's why I ask you that question,

31:39because I think that there may be some cause and effect there, don't you think? Yes, you don't believe it or not, I delete my face with my Instagram for a while and I decided to go back on like a month ago, and I was just like, oh yeah, you know, you see old friends, and then I know this is something women, I don't know if men do this, then you check on your axes and you're like, oh my gosh, you've been in more handsome than I remember. Men and women both, it's all, I know Guy, I think I tell you a story Tiffany, I know a married couple I've done them for many years, and her, let's see, her last name is, her married, I'm sorry, her maiden name was Davison, his name is Davison. So when they got married, she didn't have to change her name because it was the same name that she had before. Now, they're obviously not related, no connection. She, when Facebook came around, she, because she wanted to see pictures of family and friends and relatives, so she gets on there by, by her name, her married name, which is the same as her

32:43maiden name, within, they, well, told me the story within an hour, some dude from high school looked her up and messaged her on Facebook. She had no interest whatsoever in that, so she immediately changed her Facebook profile to her husband's name, but this dude was out there trawling around looking for her and who knows who else, and it was easy to find her, so it's not just women who do that, I think it's across the board. But your question wasn't about that though, your question was, is it worth it to try to avoid these sins like gossip, right? That was your real question, wasn't it? Yeah, and then it just seems like, oh, if you have money, if you have good looks, charisma, there's no reason for you to need God, and I just think, oh, I'm going to be honest, I can easily feel that with, okay, now that I'm struggling with financial, it's easy for me to turn to God, and so I just think, oh, is God only,

33:46you know, how this intellectual atheist, like maybe hitch it, whatever it hits, or whatever name for, oh, man, I don't know. He's gone to his eternal reward, and I guarantee he's no longer an atheist, but I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. I would propose the following, number one is that beauty is fleeting, beauty is ephemeral, it's great when it's there, but it won't always be there. That's just the nature of things. And if we make the proper use of our own gifts and beauty that God gives us, and by proper use, I mean, you know, for your husband, for your wife, that's good, but for people to worry about other people being more beautiful or taller or skinnier or, you know, whatever, whatever the standards of beauty might be, it really is just a

34:50waste of time because not only will they not have that beauty forever, but who cares, ultimately, if your beauty is in the light of God in his truth in your life, that's the true beauty, the true beauty within yourself, the beauty of your soul and your character. There are some people who are repugnant to look at, who are the most wonderful people and maybe even very holy. We've seen that before. Look at St. Mother Teresa. She was not beautiful by any modern standard, but she was a beautiful soul. And there are others that we could use as an example of that. So I'm a fellow center right there with you, Tiffany. We're all in the same boat together. But as one fellow center to another, I would just say, just ignore that stuff. God is your loving Father. The triune God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. God loves you. He created you out of love. He wants you to be happy. And thankfully, through Jesus, He has given us the way in which we can be happy in this life and

35:54in the life to come. And if you focus on those things, then how how pretty some other woman looks compared to you becomes really irrelevant because that's fleeting and she won't always be beautiful. And it doesn't even really matter in the meantime. What really matters is your inner beauty. You know what I'm saying? Yes, because I don't know if you, I don't know your generation, but I always look at the old actresses like I don't, you know, Bridget Bardot. Have you seen a picture of Bridget Bardot in her later years? Look her up. Yes. Yeah, I did. I did. And that's an example. I mean, God bless her. But she used to be ravishing looking back in the 50s and not so much later on. Or some of some of the other really truly beautiful women. Grace Slick, lead singer for Jefferson Airplane, really a strikingly beautiful woman. Not so much in her later years. And that's true for everybody. Maybe the greater or lesser

36:57extents. Why do I feel the years have played Tetherball right now? I'll be right back. Our show sponsor, Avi Maria Mutual Funds, offers a prospectus where you can find out more information about how you can invest your hard earned money and avoid supporting immoral issues. Info at Avi Maria Funds.com. That's Avi Maria Funds.com. Get connected to the conversation. Call now. 888-914-9149. That's 888-914-9149. Patrick Matrida is on the show. We're back. 888-914-9149. Monique in Los Angeles. Good morning and welcome.

38:02Good morning, Patrick. I wanted to share that years ago I had read online that the show friends, the main script writer, Jennifer Crittenden, was very blatant in saying that she had purposely put anti-catholic things in the script for friends because she did not like the Catholic Church. And when I read that I was so disgusted. And so I've been sharing that with people. And I wanted to share it with you on your show today just in case there were some of your listeners who are indeed watching friends who might think it's okay to watch. I wanted to share that. And I've been praying for her ever since when I'm asked that everyone else pray for her too. That's thoughtful of you. That's kind of you, Monique. I wasn't aware of that. It has an overt choice on her part. You'll be happy to hear this note I received from Anna a few minutes ago. She says, yeah, Patrick, happy to tell you that at the young age of 75, I have never watched an episode or rerun her friends. Still not interested. And maybe all the more so now, Monique, now that you've mentioned this part of it. Well, thank you. I don't know if her phone is acting up, but thank you,

39:09Monique. Appreciate that. We'll go to Joseph now in Mesa. Good morning, Joseph. Good morning, Patrick. Hey, I was reading the Catholic, because of the Catholic Church, uh, 1033 to 1036. I talked a lot about hell. Yeah. And I'm, I'm, I'm confessing, but nowhere did it say I, I'm not sure you might know if, in fact, the Catechism teaches that, uh, if Catholics die with unabsolved sin, they go to hell. Or, for that matter, it doesn't state that our separated brethren, who die with uncontested unabsolved sin go to hell either. So I'm just a little confused as to, you know, if the Catechism doesn't say that explicitly that, you know, if we don't follow its norms and we're going to hell, uh, you know, there's a lot of, a lot of people that believe in Christ

40:09that aren't Catholic. Yeah. Okay. Do you want me to share with you from the Catechism? Is that what you're looking for? I'd be happy to do that. Yeah. I'm actually asking, is there, it does the Catechism explicitly say that, uh, Catholics who die with unabsolved mortal sin go directly to hell? Yeah, it does. So let's take a look at a paragraph 1033, which isn't that same range that, that you're talking about. And although it doesn't use that same terminology, it does say this, to die in mortal sin without repenting and accepting God's merciful love means remaining separated from Him forever by our own free choice. This state of definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed is called hell. So that's in that same section of what you're talking about. So for Catholics, the way to the normative way, I should say, to get out of the state of being in mortal sin and to regain the state of grace is through sacramental confession

41:14to be absolved sacramentally. Now, the church also says that if you make an active perfect contrition in lieu of going to confession, let's say that you are caught up in some disaster or something and you die without the benefit of going to confession, but you still have that, have made that act of perfect contrition, then you would die in the state of grace in that sense, even though you hadn't gone to confession. But those are, that issue is taken up, for example, in the catechism sections that deal with why you can't receive the Holy Eucharist in the state of mortal sin. And why you have to go to confession and be sacramentally absolved first before you can receive Holy Communion. So there's a tangent there, but it ties in with paragraph 1033 where it says that if you die in the state of mortal sin, you will go to hell. Is that what you're looking for? Where is Joseph? There he is. Is that actually looking for Joseph? Yeah, just kind of looking for, you know, what the church exactly specifically says, because there

42:23are a lot of Catholics who believe in Jesus Christ by faith that have left the church. And according to what was just discussed, they're going to hell. Yeah, they are. If they die in the state of mortal sin, they are definitely going to hell. That includes Catholics. That includes non-Catholics. I mean, it's not, you know, it's not solely directed. Jesus himself said it repeatedly. He says, unless you repent, you too will all perish. Yeah, I mean, we're all sinners, obviously, right? Patrick? Yeah, some of us don't know. I know I am. Some of us may not follow, you know, may not follow the sub-subscribed, you know, normative way to have our sins absolved would take it by faith. Right. I understand that, but I would propose to you what Jesus himself says. He says, why do you say to me, Lord, Lord, but you do not do what I command you? It's not the one. He says,

43:25who says to me, Lord, Lord will be saved, but it's the one who does the will of my Father. So there are plenty of people. Yeah, I'll just propose this to you. There are plenty of people who say, yeah, no, I'm not going to do that, Jesus, because I have faith in you. I'm going to do it my way. I think I know better what I need to do. And even though, yeah, you establish a church, and even though you establish sacraments, and even though you have those things, I'm going to freelance and do it my way. My sense of it is that Jesus is speaking about people like that, who will say on that day, there will be many who say to me, Lord, Lord, didn't we do mighty deeds in your name and cast out demons and all sorts of wonderful things about you, Jesus, and he'll say, depart from me. I never knew you, evil doers. Yeah. I don't think that other that Jesus doesn't know people, Patrick. I think Jesus knows. Well, Jesus knows a lot of

44:27wonderful of his followers that are our Protestants, that are pastors, that are family people, that are non-celabits, that are, you know, he, he, he, I don't think Jesus is going to think that's what I don't know you. I don't. I'm a non-celabit. I'm a non-celabit. I'm going to, I'm going to be a non-celabit. You're saying a caricature, that's not what the Catholic Church teaches. That's not what I'm saying, it's not what the Catholic Church teaches. Yeah. Okay. Well, I would rather that you know what the Church teaches and disagree with that than to hold this caricature of what you think the Church teaches. I mean, what's the point in disagreeing with something that the Church doesn't teach? Well, I was just disagreeing with you, Patrick, by basically saying that Jesus is not going to say, I don't know you, to all of those separated brethren that loved him dearly. Jesus himself said on that day, there will be many who say to me, Lord, Lord,

45:32and he says, it's not the one who says to me, Lord, Lord, didn't I, didn't I do mighty deeds in your name? Didn't I cast out demons in your name, et cetera, et cetera? He says, he, himself says, there will be people who say that who in this life thought that they were on team Jesus, but they really weren't because they were. Yeah, they're going to know us by our love, Patrick. All right. Do you really want to have a conversation, Joseph, because it sounds like you're just dealing in slogans here? Well, that's what it was sounded like to me on from my side when you said so me quoting Jesus sounds like a slogan to you. Is that what you're saying? I don't, I don't know you, Patrick. I don't, wait a minute, wait a minute. I'm quoting Jesus and you say that sounds like a slogan. Is he not the good shepherd? Of course he is. Does he not, doesn't his sheep know his voice? Yes. Patrick, you want to talk slogans? Not really. I don't. I'd rather talk about what Jesus says. Okay. Well, listen, I believe that Jesus is full of mercy and grace. Yes, I do too. God

46:40bless you, Patrick. Thank you, Joseph. God bless you. All right. And with that, he hung up. Okay. 88, 914, 914. That's okay, though. I would pay people to call and talk with me about topics like that. Cyrus, you didn't have time to pop the popcorn. That's okay. He'll call back. He's called back before and he's always welcome. Let's go to Lorraine in Brooklyn. Hello, Lorraine. Oh, thanks for taking my call. By the way, when he's called me before, it's always on the same topic. I'm sorry, Lorraine. Please proceed. Good morning. Oh, honey. Thank you for taking my call. I am so stupid. What? They and everybody say that. Don't say that. Yeah, wait a wait. Make your judgment and they have to hear what I'm telling people. I'm sure you're not stupid. You'll agree. When I tell you what I say, I tell people that I don't care. They are color. They

47:48agreed. They're religion. What they do sexually or not sexually. Jesus said, make no judgment. I don't judge it. Okay. Can you imagine they put Matt out there? I what can I do to correct myself? I don't know. Do you need to be corrected? You want you love Jesus, right? Oh, my god. It's my word and my savior. I worship him every day. I say, Jesus, you are my, I can't even think because this thing is eating at me. I say, Jesus, you are my savior. Jesus, I trust in you every morning, like a mantra to give him all the credit. So I don't see anything in what you're saying that makes you sound stupid. Because I'm letting them know that

48:53the interpretation I am is he doesn't care about the color. They agreed. They're everything I just told you that I what they do sexually or don't do. Oh, I see what you mean. He. Well, there is a distinction, of course, between things that we can't control like our sex, our skin color, our ethnicity. We can't control those things. We are how we are. We, you know, we're born into our reality that way. But we can. Okay. No, I'm talking sex. Yeah, me too. I was just about to get to the sex part. Okay, good. So I was going to get to the sex part by saying that we can't control how we look and what our ethnicity is, but we can't control how we use our bodies. We can control our sexual activity. And if God is saying, as it says in the Bible,

49:53there's no Jew nor Greek. There's no free. There's no slave. There's no male or no female. He doesn't mean that in an absolute sense. But rather that we're all equal before God. That's true. But God indeed says thou shalt not kill. So if they're using their bodies to kill people, that's bad. He says thou shalt not commit adultery, et cetera. So if you're using your body sexually to do something that God says, don't do, he doesn't say, well, that's all fine. You know, do what you want to do. Are we in agreement or no? I'm not really sure. Yes, because what I'm talking about, I'm incapacitated. I fractured my spine before that I fractured my hip, but this put me down. I'm totally incapacitated. And I'm in hospice at all now, because I have this these beds long. I'm really sorry. Do you have the priest coming to see you with the

50:58blessed sacrament and the last rites and all that? Oh, not just the priest. He was here. And then the girls bring me communion because that's good. Yeah, all the time. That's good. I'm glad to hear that, Lorraine. I don't think you're stupid at all. I think you're a wonderful lady. Please pray for us. I wish I had more time. And God bless you. May God give you strength and encouragement and peace and health, if it be his will. Thanks everybody. I'll pray for you. Please pray for me. I'll see you tomorrow.