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It was a sickening night for the Kingdom and our friends in the Republic of Ireland. Wales, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland all saw their chances of World Cup glory slip away from them. Those brave boys will have to watch on from home, but not England and Scotland, they march on!
Marcus, Luke & Jim are here to discuss all of last night's action, including the Bosnia manager setting us all a little puzzle. Plus, the England boys are back in action at Wembo tonight with a chance for those young cubs to grab a golden ticket from Thomas Tuchel. You might need to sell your second home for one. Just ask big Andy Milne.
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Welcome to the football rabble preview show, Wales, Ireland, and Northern Ireland crash
out of World Cup qualification.
It's Friday 27th of the March, I'm Jim Campbell.
And I'm Luke Moore.
Hello, everybody.
It's Friday.
It is a slightly solemn Friday in the kingdom, of course, because two of our brave bunches
of boys are out of World Cup qualification.
We need to strike us some baton for the next hour or so.
Well, we'll try and pick it.
I mean, England are playing tonight in a crucial friendly.
So it is still a preview show.
It is still a preview show.
How?
We've got them.
Yeah.
The Trage Description Act bunch.
We will be previewing a game at some point that perhaps many, many people don't care
about.
Oh, this is disappointing.
Oh, these people.
You should be careful.
We will get onto Wales and to Northern Ireland, Northern rest of it.
But I do think, you know, I saw a little bit of negativity yesterday around England
playing tonight, because this is just a general bit of rhetoric, and people are falling
into that kind of old trope of, oh, another England friendly.
No, no, no.
This is the key friendies now.
Yeah, yeah.
This is where the World Cup starts now.
This is the Dojo.
It is.
Absolutely.
The Dojo that like Dad's in the 80s, he's really got into karate, something that's
start opening Dojo.
Is that?
Yeah.
And BLs is there.
Yes.
And what more do you want?
Jim.
I think you've won everybody.
He's just previewed.
The preview.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Lovely teaser trailer, Jim.
You should be able to show his description and just go home.
Just go home.
You can't keep it.
It's still warming for us.
Exactly.
We've left the EU now.
Brexit means Brexit.
We don't want any more trade descriptions.
All right.
Stop gloating.
Welcome to the Gold Medal show.
Right.
Gold Donkey show.
Exactly.
There we go.
Right.
And let's start with Wales.
They drew one all with Bosnia-Herzegovina, but of course lost four to.
On penalties, they miss out on World Cup qualification.
They will not be playing Italy in that final playoff.
Of course.
It's a sickener for Wales, an absolute sickener.
Where do you begin, Jim?
I suppose maybe the penalty shootout.
I would begin earlier than that with actually with the birth of Craig Bellin with the birth
of Craig Bellin.
And then I would take a huge, huge time jump right up to the beginning of this match.
And I think all three, obviously we're going to look at Wales, Northern Ireland and the
Republic of Ireland, and they've all gone out in unfortunate fashion.
I think this might be the hardest one to take, because Wales are really, really attacking
in this game.
They really, really took it to Bosnia.
They hit the bar twice, and obviously Bosnia had some chances themselves.
Well, Darlo had to make a really, really good save, but they did everything they promised
to do.
They did everything Craig Bellin asked of them, and they were just so unlucky to be kind
of essentially pegged back by the immortal Edin Jekko.
And sickener is right, because you look at that and thought they were brilliant.
They played really, really well.
They were, it was fine margins that mean they're not going through to face Italy.
They should have won the game.
Yeah.
They should have won the game.
Edin Jekko said after the game that he felt that Bosnia hurt the governor with the
right forward.
And then Jekko plays for Bosnia, though.
Yeah.
I don't play for either of these nations, so I'm more neutral.
Right.
I haven't got a drop of Welsh blood in me, no Bosnia.
Right.
So you can trust me.
Yeah.
Welsh should have won the game.
What is your blood type, eh?
Not sure.
Actually, I've got, I've got the really rare one.
Said.
No, I can't remember what it is.
I actually don't know what mine is.
Okay.
And I have a...
Sorry.
Come back after you.
I've got a very mild condition that means my blood clots quite slowly, so I really should
know what it is.
Don't you know what I can't remember it?
You know me have it written on the inside of you, but look, proofest.
So you're at when you're at about...
For English people.
Yeah, that's in the wash.
For English people, you've always got type A, type B, type Irish, and...
They're your options, really.
Yeah.
I think I'm AB, negative or something.
That's apparently the rareest main blood type, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, why are we talking about this?
Oh, Edgy said you didn't have a drop of Welsh blood in you.
I don't.
So I was keen to know what type of blood you think.
I think if you watched that game, you would agree with me that Wales made all the...
Look, Wales got themselves into the position to have the home tie.
Yes.
And they put...
And Bosnia are a beatable team.
We have to be clear about that.
And it was one of those nights, as Jim has said, which just didn't quite happen for them.
But I don't think, you know, Bellamy's comments themselves would probably suggest as well.
I know there's a huge amount of regrets.
It's just one of the regrets I'm not going to be going to the next phase, of course.
But it's not like they chuck six behind the ball, don't try and try on Nick one,
or play for penalties or something.
They tried to win the game and they held on for a long, long time.
And on another day, they were the scored more than one.
I do think the Dan James Goal is fortunate.
I don't think he's as good as everyone says it is.
Isn't the Keeper has to save that.
Oh, come on.
It's the Keeper has to save them.
Yeah, but he doesn't, and it's a glorious moment.
It's a great hit.
A lot of hard work was making, though, Jim.
Sure, but...
It's a great half-folly.
I'm pleased that he scored it, and I'm pleased for Wales, broadly.
It's a lovely goal.
But it's one of those goals you have to admit that when you first sit, you go fucking what a goal.
Then you watch it again, you go, mm, okay.
Yeah, but I think James only hits it from there because the keeper's out, right?
So I think you surely got a factor that in.
I think it's so slow to react.
I think from James's point of view, it's a great goal.
From the goalkeeper's point of view, he would think that if he had his time again, he would do a bit better.
That's too diplomatic.
Are you team Campbell or team Moore?
Are you Luke Nation?
Or are you Jim Barbwy?
Well, look, I think I've moaned myself very clear on that point.
Did you threaten to overrule the minister?
Why could I have not, did you threaten to overrule the minister?
I'm not going to be dragged into this again.
I've said what I've said.
All right, and history will judge me.
It's a good, I'm not going the other way.
Oh, duh.
I'm not going the other way by saying it's a shit goal to be, to be like, competitive.
I just don't think it's as good a goal as ever.
I get what you're saying.
It's not sort of kissing the bar into the top corner perfectly.
For me, a goal from that distance, you have to look at it again and go.
No keeping the one to say that.
But I think, though, when all said and done, for that goal to be the goal that opens the scoring,
to hit it in such a manner in which he did, probably catches the keeper of guard.
So you've got to do that.
It's a fabulous goal from James and Wales's point of view.
And with that home advantage as well, the crowd were up for it.
As we've come to know over many years now with the Wales national team,
you did think they were going to go on and win it.
When Dan James is deflected and hits the bar, the tells are up.
No, but I do think, though, in that second half, you have to say,
that Bosnia Herzegovina were also very much in the time.
They grew into a game, yeah.
And at times, I thought they had much more better control of it than Wales did.
But look, you know, right at the end, if you fast forward to extra time,
right at the end of extra time, Bosnia Herzegovina were hanging on for penalties.
And could they get through?
And there was that moment, wasn't there when Brennan Johnson?
I actually thought he perhaps should have gone for goal, but although I get what he's doing.
He heads back across the goal.
He heads back across the goal and it's agonizing.
Even when it went to penalties, I thought Wales are not going to be denied here.
And Darlow saves the first one.
And Bellamy said after the game, he said, we practice penalties.
And you know what?
Bellamy's a proper student of the game where he was before.
He certainly is now without a doubt.
And I think we've all enjoyed Bellamy as Wales manager and the way he's conducted himself.
But he said with that penalty shootout, he said, we did our homework, we did everything right.
And he said, and when the goalkeeper saves the first one, I thought we're on for it here.
And he said, I'm just scratchy.
He said, I don't believe in luck, but I can't remember the exact words he said,
but I was scratching my head going, what else could we have done to win that penalty shootout?
And so it's all out on the field for them.
I think Craig Bellamy is, I know what you mean.
Craig Bellamy is the acceptable face and manner of self-improvement.
Yeah.
He's got a little soups on of the Jake Humphrey Lee and Rosina Jean.
But he bludges it, bludges you over the head with it.
And it's so straight talking that it doesn't annoy you.
Well, that part of it is a little bit more from yesterday, good old-fashioned stuff.
But he is a product of his own environment.
So there is a little dollop of it.
Well, you mean, I will give you some motivational stuff.
But please be warned that the golf club might come out.
Yeah, possibly.
Yeah.
You know?
A bit like yourself during golf.
Yeah, yeah.
I think the real mischance, the head across the goal was a good point to reference.
I don't know why I can't remember who the forward was.
I don't know why I just didn't throw myself at it, because it was really close.
Yeah.
You know, it's like trying to judge where it's going to go.
There was a moment before that where Harry Wilson gets the freedom
of the penalty here and for some reason takes up two or three touches.
I think that one was that first time as a goal.
Yeah.
Yeah, maybe, maybe.
I wonder if that was one of those where the chance was never truly open for him
when he was it back.
But possibly, Jimmy, he's one of those ones where, yeah, if you actually had,
you know, a camera which you could see it through his eyes.
Yeah, I don't know what you mean.
Imagine that.
Like, cameras in his head.
That's the future.
Contact lenses.
Well, I will get the Google cams just to start.
Yeah, so we could see something for you to think about your wafer.
But probably the only place you'll get the highlights.
Well, I was about to say.
And while I'm here, you wafer.
Why do you make it so difficult?
Because I have a login to the uafer.com.
Yeah.
And it takes me about five minutes to find you anyway.
Yeah.
Oh, one minute 30 highlights of this five fourth really.
Yeah.
Why would people want to watch this product?
Yeah.
No, I don't know.
Yeah, with Wilson, you could have been one of those ones as you said.
I think it's such a shame for Wilson in particular.
Having had such a great season.
We've been able to go on and play in the World Cup would have just been,
would have been marvelous, but it wasn't to be certainly.
Ed and Jack are though.
You can't deny about a goal at international level.
Yeah, it's an amazing stack doing the rounds in there that this is the 20th year in a row.
He scored a goal in international football.
Wow.
Well, he's a 40,000.
Yeah.
He's just evergreen.
That goal was an absolutely textbook modern goal.
Yes.
It's a whipped corner.
It's really hard to say.
Does that have modern goal nowadays?
It is.
It used to be an old fashion.
It is, but it's now modern again.
How about that?
It's about 94 people on the near post.
Postmodern?
It's like, yeah.
It's basically the front post in corners these days.
Like a slip knocky.
Technically.
And whoever could jump up the high and avoid the bottles of piss.
Yeah.
He could just put the fucking board in there.
Not the right way.
It was like a shit.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Who scored it?
Joey Jordanson.
I didn't.
Look, it was one of those ones where the last person you want it to fall for.
But there's a reason why he has so many goals at international level.
And it was, it was a signal for Wales, but look at him.
They, they, they still rally, but they, they, they just, they, they couldn't do it
certainly.
But after the game.
What about Brennan Johnson's penalty missed?
Don't go after the game.
That's pretty much suffered enough.
I, I think it's important to say that that was a really poor penalty.
Good players can miss penalties.
He's not a good player.
Simon.
Not the point.
What?
Jim?
I mean, he's, he's a funny player.
Um, Brennan Johnson.
He's obviously scored the winning goal in the Europa, the Europa League final.
I actually scored a decent amount of goals for him.
Yeah.
But he had to be there to do it.
He scored a good amount of goals with Tottenham.
But basically every club he's played for.
You hear fans talking about his lack of technique and the sort of problems with his game.
And he does seem like someone who isn't always as effective as they should be in those moments.
He had a chance as well.
But why?
Which wasn't an easy chance to be fair to him.
But it is, um, it's an unfortunate evening for him.
Why, why are we going to dig it?
Brennan this morning.
It's a really poor penalty in a key moment.
And he says they're going to practice penalties.
He needs a 35 million pound player.
He's paying the Premier League.
I think he deserves criticism.
Right.
And he did spoon it over the bar.
It wasn't like it was a, a, a poly struck penalty that was saved.
It was a, it was a bad technique.
Well, again, no, in a big moment.
He's not the first player to have done such a thing.
No, let's never mention it then.
Let's never.
I wasn't going to.
Right.
I'll tell you what.
I said they lost on the panel.
He's one of them.
Where does someone lands on the moon in five years to home?
It's not near Armstrong.
So we're not going to talk about it.
What?
First.
Well, who was the, who was the seventh person to land on the moon?
I don't know.
Right.
There you go.
You see.
I probably could probably think about it.
Good.
I reckon it might have been.
Was it Michael Jackson?
Yeah.
I think it was Michael Jackson.
That is his monkey.
Right.
Was it the monkey the first one ever?
Is it a monkey a person?
That's a good point.
I'll tell you what.
We're 10 minutes in.
And this is a monkey a person.
It's actually longer.
I thought it would take.
Craig Bellamy said postmatch, trying to rally his troops.
It will be a sleepless night, but it makes me even more determined tomorrow.
The sun will rise.
Oh, I'm going to watch that sun rise.
God.
And then we're going to practice panels.
And then straight away.
How do I go again?
How do I improve?
But let's get over tonight.
There's a bright future.
If I was playing, imagine looking forward to what's coming up.
You have the nation's league group.
I love that he mentioned that.
You have a home nation's Euro's coming.
It's not a bad time to be a Welsh footballer.
And he's right.
Yeah, he is.
I think again, okay, they've gone out in heartbreaking fashion here.
Wales in World Cup qualification.
But it's a far cry from years gone by.
People might say, is that relevant?
I just feel it is slightly because it's a country the size of Wales.
It's a very small population to still continue that tradition.
And I would say it's a tradition.
Really, I mean, the late great Gary Speed probably set in motion back when he was managing.
Chris Coleman, Robert Page, all those managers who got Wales to tournaments all within a whisker.
Because obviously again, on Euro 2024, it was penalties against Poland, wasn't it?
I think Bellamy's right.
And I think that it is a disappointing evening for them.
There's no doubt about that, heartbreaking.
But still a lot to be.
I think Bellamy seems exceptionally well suited to the job as well.
Yeah.
I think he'll stick around.
And I think he's trying to imbue that positivity into the squad ahead of, like he says,
some exciting stuff coming up.
I don't think it's quite interesting how he has almost redeveloped himself
based on what his reputation used to be.
It's been quite thoughtful, but motivational and passionate coach.
And ticking all the boxes you want from an international coach, like passionate Welshman,
thinks about the game quite deeply.
Obviously really hard working.
I love that.
It's an answer he gave ahead of the game about Mo Salah.
That was really good.
Yeah, good on him.
I wish them all very, nothing but happiness.
I want to see enough one of those speeches that Michael Sheen did.
Yeah, yeah.
That's what I want to see.
Well, maybe you'll do that before next week's friendly against Northern Ireland.
No.
But be a waste of his talent.
Before the manager trying to get a team up for that.
Yeah.
Before the game, Bronby manager, Steve Cooper, on the passion at Welshman.
He was accused of sabotaging Bosnian's hopes of reaching this summer's World Cup.
Did anybody work with it?
Well, the manager of Bosnian Herzegov and a claim to Cooper dropped one of their midfielders
for Bronby's two most recent games, because obviously Welsh were playing them in the World Cup playoffs.
That's the game.
It's actually helping them.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Yeah. Well, Barbara, as the manager said, Benjo, the player in question,
has told me some things that are hard to believe.
It has something to do with the coach's origin.
When your coach wishes you, but not your national team good luck,
it leaves room for thought.
That sounds like it's a sort of, like, dad adjacent joke that's just been lost in translation there, doesn't it?
Oh, good luck at the weekend.
But I'll do a point there.
See you later.
Barbara has also said, the only important thing to sort of clarify these comments afterwards.
He said, the only important thing for me is that I trust my players.
And the idea of all this was to create a puzzle for you.
So you can think about all of these things.
I had the idea to protect the player.
That's where all this talking was from.
Is it a mind game if you tell everyone it's a mind game?
I mean, it seems to work incredibly.
That would be quite good.
You brought a Johnson's head?
No.
Well, which one?
There we go.
I think mind games are fine, but you have to state you're going to do a mind game.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right.
Right, this is a mind game.
And then you go on to it.
I think that's...
It could be like a double bluff, though.
Well, there you are.
Yeah, maybe I really think it.
Indeed.
So, for example, Jim, if I said to you ahead of luck,
what game were you doing like a Jacks or Billy?
I'm hosting today.
But if I was playing and I said to you ahead of me planning it to you,
I think you're a bit of a cunt, right?
It could be a mind game.
Or it's just you being you again.
Yeah, but then that gets in this head as well.
Yeah, I think Jim would expect that.
I'm always in my head, mate.
Got nowhere else to go.
True.
But are you paying yourself rent, though?
No, anyways.
Is it rent free?
Let us move on.
No.
Come on.
It's a chequeer to...
Chequeer?
We're all in on chequeer.
Do you think I'm a cunt?
You know what I do.
Who's that cunt from?
Let's have a poll up on the WhatsApp group.
On the round of WhatsApp.
Isn't we good, isn't it?
Chequeer.
Not to be confused with Czech Republic.
Two, Republic of Ireland.
Two, chequeer, one, four, three on pens.
And out of the sickener.
Yeah.
I mean, Ireland's World Cup dreams are...
They had the last time pen and World Cup was 2002.
And they're turning up in the game.
Yeah, I think this is more...
A Troy parquet?
A Troy parquet?
睡 straight interval three of them
because of that exact reason.
A Troy parquet of genuinely improved spurs now.
Yeah, yeah.
I think you would.
You'd have to say.
Yeah.
Anyway, don't look...
Troy's had a tough enough time as it is.
He doesn't need to be linked to spurs.
Do you want those memories
being dragged up again?
No, certainly not.
And yeah, still, vote out the traps.
Lot of wails.
Two goals to the good.
And they saved the first penalty in the shoot after that as well?
Yeah, very similar, yeah.
But they said then...
They had sat back at Tino지만 that that's the problem.
But they were to be fair to them, though.
I mean you have to remember though that the the first checking goal was was four minutes after they were sure
Yeah, I mean and they were good enough second off that check you didn't have much so again
Like they were they I think the way they set up and you'd expect that from a hand grimace inside that you
You get your territory right mark the space, you know all good
Stuff
Canal
Oh, yeah, can I just say there was eight minutes this game between Troy Parrish Peltier and Patrick Schicks Peltier
Which were just simply a pauling advert for international football
Farsi cologne goal and absolutely needless penalty followed by a
One of the worst decisions from a defender liver see doing the balls going out of play
A little ridiculous and he just pulls him back anyway in in the age of var. Yeah, there's no excuse for
Madness was yeah, especially, you know, they beat Portugal and Hungary to get to this point and then they go turn it up and like from there
It is again an absolute capital S sickness. Yeah, it really is Jim and
I mean, it's been yeah, I don't want to lay with the point, but you know so long since they've been
Um at the at the World Cup and they'd have played Denmark in the next game winable. Yeah, I mean
But yeah, it's all it's about talking about winnable games in in international football is weird though because as Jim said
Public a vinyl of beats for good teams already. Yeah, and you'd expect and possibly
I mean, maybe you wouldn't because it's in Prague, but you
If they've beaten the teams of the pro father teams, they've beaten you think okay. We'll check the public's a decent draw
Could have got someone hot worse? Yeah, um, but you mean you just never know and if they if they can't get past
Check the public then how can they maybe they can't get past their mark either you just I mean it's never gonna find out of course
But it doesn't it's not as easy as that is it is what I'm sorry. It's not as easy as that
Well, you just you've got to be in the hat, haven't you? You've got to give yourself the chance in the first place
It's a shame they weren't able to do that. Yeah, and
I mean the fact that they made the playoff, you know such amazing scenes of celebration when they beat
Hungry and Budapest of course
Oh, yeah, but you know, so I mean, I mean, there's a little something to hang the hats on
I know that they won't feel like that this morning. I mean, I helped him send himself said, you know
Again, the futures brighten all that kind of chat because island. It's been so barren really on the international stage for quite a long time now
Didn't stop at the Irish fans traveling in numbers. Of course there was apparently a queue outside and Irish by prog at 9 a.m
On the morning of the game
That's what we like to see Roy King's raging. Yeah, so we're non-farm. Yeah
Can I wait for it to open? Can I spare a quick mention for ladders laugh cratesy? You may. Yes
Very
Despite being a part of what we think may well be one of the worst
Premier League teams in history that they have picked up recently. I admit that he's actually had like a strangely good season
He's carrying himself with a lot of credit
He's done well. He'll get a move to I think if he wants to another Premier League team
I think he's good enough. He's obviously been made
Captains of Czechia and these obviously scored a really important goal last night
When I was looking him up because I thought oh he's the interest
He's a player rather than I on and I think he's pretty good. He's a bit underrated and
He's a centre-back right for Sparta for Sparta Prague. He's scored 44 goals and 148 games
Including 13 league goals in 19 league games in 22-23. I'd love to know the story of that. Steve Bruce. It is
He must have been on pens. Yeah, we have to find out with you some Czechier experts to tell us. Yeah
But I mean across across some five seasons in them in the top division in Czechia
He's got 34 goals not too shabby. Yeah, not too shabby at all. Not bad
When he got another important one last night. That can't move get your moot. That's a kind of form. It gets you a move to Girona lads
There you go. Now, let's talk about Italy to Northern Ireland nil
This is a second in show. It really is. It's a terrible day for the kingdom and our friends in Ireland
I'm glad you're glad it isn't there. It's a terrible day markers. Just call it what it is. It is
You set a glorious down the kingdom
Where how can it be we're getting for just depressing stuff? Well hang on. That's not quite what I said at the start
And everybody's welcome to rewind it and check. So don't you start that granddad?
Can I get a rewind now Italy yes there they're through to the next round of the
The World Cup qualification process the final if you like at Northern Ireland miss out they haven't qualified
For the World Cup now since
1986. Yeah, which again just shows you how much of a signal is his I appreciate Northern Ireland going to Italy
Even though it's not a great Italian side still
It's still Italy they've still got quality in there as tonnallis showed when he scored that girl
I know and also more is again when he scored a brilliant second. Well tonnallis was a textbook tonnall
It was yeah, but like it was it was a tall order this for Northern Ireland
And I don't think too many can have many complaints even though I mean they look gutted
Of course they did after the final whistle
But it's like since 1986 you know despite the expanded toward the expanded euros as obviously helped
A few sides of Northern Ireland included and get that tournament experience, but the World Cup
Yeah, which is of course that's sort of the holy grail of international for sure to get there
It's even with the so far even with the expanded tournament though. These playoffs are brutal
Well, they are brutal and the expanded world cup is not really and I understand this is not a complaint
But it's it's a did more I think other continents sure
You know in Africa and particularly we know five places what it four or five places among you know about 50 teams, you know crazy
So yeah, whatever we whatever we slice it
It as you say Jim it's still very very difficult to get through it
Particularly if you've not got the home advantage and also they had con and Bradley and Dan ballad missing
Which is just terrible timing
So let's say Northern Ireland basically advanced through to the playoffs through the nations league right?
It was really tough for them to that advance through the first stage of official
World Cup qualification because they're Germany and Slovakia in their group and Slovakia who they actually beat at home
Obviously lost the way to
You know
It is I mean despite the fact that it's expanded. It's still really hard for teams of that size as you said in in in the euros
It's it's much much easier and the euros is basically now way too big. Yeah, whereas I'm also waiting to see what's like the 48 teams in the World Cup
I suspect that'll be pretty dull as well in in places, but
You know, it doesn't feel like it's probably for people who are passionate fans of Northern Ireland
But you know getting to a playoff and losing to Italy. I mean, it's kind of about par. It's probably better than par
Yeah, based on some things we see you might say. Yeah. Oh, I mean the the nation's league is important because if you wanted to stink out the
World Cup qualification like Sweden did and get two points
Two points from
Estonishingly bad. Yeah, they they now find themselves. They didn't win a game. They didn't win a single game
They were shit right you
They now find themselves a game away from qualified because they got Poland of course they beat Ukraine
Three one last night. I think the job rash hat trick. Yeah, there we go. There you go. You see
So it's it's it's a funny out game in it
My colonial when asked about his future
There's Northern Ireland manager said as things stand
I will manage the game on Tuesday nights
That's why I was of course and I will manage the remaining seven games for blackbone rovers because less we forget he's got a bit of a job share
But my contract is still with the IFA. I'm contracted to 2028 and after blackbone rovers
I'll revert back to the status quo, which is the national team manager. I love the way you worded that
Yeah, you got a side hustle these days. I've always got to say that sometimes that is blackbone rovers
It's hugely respectful to the historic and proud football clubs that is blackbone rovers, isn't it? Yeah, I mean not
He's not his fault. I mean, obviously you're off of the job. But he's taking it fine
Um, he's not there under duress
Sitting here as a sports event. I really need it to do us a solid
Vika that'd be absolutely sensational
Because we are looking really really poor at the moment. Yeah, Italy, of course
I'm trying to qualify for their first World Cup since 2014. Which is crazy
It's absolute madness if you look at the Italian football team in the 21st century
So so angry about it. He looks great though, doesn't he? Yeah, he looks really like even more bear-like than he did as a player
Yeah, yeah, there is a silver lining is that he will be a big character at the World Cup if they get there
Which you would expect them to I think
We're seeing Genarega 2's own moving in you know, we talk about old man strength. Yeah
Is that man going to be yeah, absolutely he's gonna come for Joe Jordan
Let's be fair. He's usually going to the World Cup. He's in a disgrace himself and so on
It's gonna be fantastic. Yeah, I mean, absolutely fantastic. He's gonna be good
Yeah, Italy. I mean, it's funny. I was reading an article to BBC about the Italian national side and how they've had their shortcomings
for many many years now
And it talked about from that 2006 World Cup win and they've done this and then there's a little line
They did in the euros and 20 years. Yeah, that's wild man. That's wild man
Yeah, our cost
Well, expensive us indeed. They did the memories are still painful
And did you see though that Italy
They before the game and newspaper pictured it a group of young fans with the caption the cover images were generated by AI
We couldn't find any young people who were quite as happy to cheer on the national
So it's a really bad AI phone like
Generation as well. It makes the every fan looks like the same person exactly the same. Yeah, it's absolutely hellish
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Good morning good
Tell us something your mum doesn't know
Yeah
Oh the sound of victory
Was that in the last tournament cut I was a catter quite a while ago
I think it might have been Euro 2020. Yeah, okay in 2021 of course. Yeah, yeah
Look, it was a somber first half and if you wanted to see the sunshine after the rain here
It is yeah England against you're a quiet tonight at Wembley 75 kick off. Don't you worry?
I'll be there and so will Thomas Tuchel
He said this camp is the last opportunity on building in it on this show
That is the order of ceremony right if you're looking at a festival line up
Yeah, that's the order as you did right or a big capital letters
Only festival appearance this summer. Yeah, Marcus better and also special guest Thomas Tuchel
I learned to mark as his mind England is so important even in a friendly
There are people worrying that Thomas Tuchel won't turn up. Yeah, there's also people worry that he won't be there. Don't you worry? I'll be there
That would cheer on the boys
Go away. I'll make no one see first the brand. It's taking you there. No, it's just a friend of mine. Oh, okay
You bought it to yourself
I did pay for a normal ticket. Yeah, okay. I've got me England dealer. You got your chain mail ready all of it
The whole lot Jim the whole lot
You'll be up there hanging you'll be up there hanging St George's flags on that post on the Wembley anyway, weren't you?
I'd hope that someone's already done that. Yeah, you know one of our lot
Anyway, Thomas Tuchel said this camp is the last opportunity for players to compete for their ticket to the World Cup
As we know expensive this one is indeed Jim tickets are very expensive
I'd love him to dress up as Willy Wonka
Would do golden tickets and chocolate bars to the players the so all the players have been in
Contention get given a Thomas Tuchel chocolate bar and they have to open it on the England YouTube channel
That's how they find out and if it's got a golden ticket in here
They have to sing the Charlie buckets song. Yeah, I got a golden ticket
Yeah, and then they get struck on the bus if not the will they get sucked out of a tube like a gust of blue
Stuck in the chocolate river. I was in the river chocolate river. It's not a plane. It's a great glass elevator
It is very good. There he gets
Does get stuck in the tube. Yeah, yeah, we get stuck in the tube. Yeah, yeah, like I might do on the way
Let's hope not though. We have a little chocky-be in the pocket. Can you go in? Oh, that's a good idea like the big man himself
Yeah, well, you know what it's like in corner shops in London. They are just it's like the garden of Eden
A bit of Marzipan
Ritter sport there we go. Yeah, very good. You know what I mean? I don't understand how it's related to sport
But I don't mind well, it's the most European and to be fair a ritter sport is he's a euro's chocolate box
The most European chocolate bar. Go. You want to hurt yourself, mate? No, I'm a ballad. Yeah, they're horrible
But it's American, isn't it? Well, why not Reese's piece doesn't like American things. Reese's peaces. They are
Yeah, Reese but not butter nuts Reese James Reese James's pieces right. Yeah, one of them Jim
There you go, and I'll have a kind of fenter as well
We sound like we're in a nursing home at this point
That in the future
We'll forget where we actually are
Reese's pieces, that's a man
Fatter
We haven't we have a chocolate bar on the tube
I might not get to the ground
I might get stuck on the ground
Oh, no, was it Augustus?
What are you talking about sir? Just take your medicine
Where's the pizza to me the other day? Come on, ground down. Let's get you back to bed
Right, anyway, England. Yeah, where are we?
Oh, jeez, jeez, jeez, jeez on toast. Come on, let's go. Not all of England's 35 man squad will be with England for this game
Of course, as is the hectic nature of this particular
You guys to remember. Yeah, I know. You'll do well won't he? Eleven players will join the squad for the game against Japan next week
Against who sorry? Japan
Those players who will join up for that game. So so tonight these players won't be involved
Perhaps an easier way of saying it
So we will not see Dean Henderson, Dan Bernmark gay, Ezra concert, Nikoa Riley, Elliot Anderson, Teckland rice, Morgan, Rosentic, Gordon, Harricane and Bacar second
Why did I go to this game and not the Japan game? I don't want to watch it. Dean Henderson's not involved. No, I didn't think you would
That's a good team there. Yeah, that's a good team right there. It's an excellent team. Yeah
Dad win the World Cup that team
I think if we just sent those eleven men. You know what? I mean, you're right like that. It's a good starting level
Not too sharp, but it misses you. That would win the World Cup if I just sent eleven men. You're right
That's how confident the fever is. I think I was agreeing with Jim's point that not yours, but fine
Again, you can rewind and have a listen
And but there will be plenty of Englishman on display at Wembley tonight on the pitch particularly
And Ben White and Harvey Barnes could be involved. Harvey McBarn's Harvey's gone on not anymore
To be fair to Harvey shut the kill away, is he? Yeah, Harvey was shocked in the lock
I think I'll try you back down to London. Harvey put all his chips or England
Didn't he because he
When Stevie Clark was making kissy faces aim Harvey Barnes knows that if he goes, you know what Scotland. Yeah, all right
He will be a starting player for them. Yeah, surely he would start these 28 now as well. Yeah, exactly
He would be a start player and and and obviously they've qualified for the World Cup
I understand how do you have joined up with Scotland after they qualified think that might have been a little bit cheeky
But still I would imagine they would have probably said okay
I don't know what the conversations were, but he said no he wanted to have a go England and the season he's had
I don't think it's unreasonable to think that he you know
Make an impact
Absolutely
He's he's essentially
Find that really really hard because the quality of players we've got in that position when his teammate and he gone
Yeah, he's certainly one of them, but I do think there's room. This is perhaps a little bit cheeky, but there is room for
For someone who's actually in the form because he
Look at some of the wide forwards English have got because sack will be one of them. He's not actually in great form
But it's that left side where he would I know that but I mean probably speaking they do rotate around a lot play different shapes
Like I can't see my point just being if you were going to take it in the round as wide forwards, right
It's unthinkable a year ago to say or because sack is not really great form. He but he hasn't been has he so so
There's a little bit of light opening up here or there is what I'm saying
Also Barnes is a player who's got a lot of experience of coming off the bench and making an impact and and he's really good
Doing that and he's and he's happy seemingly happy doing that that will likely be his role at the tournament
If you know, yeah, it's it's I mean he seems like the prime candidate
But on that left hand side where he would be vying for
Anthony Gordon
I think a lot of people probably haven't done as a starter fair enough. Okay
Marcus Rashford doesn't start games for Barcelona hasn't done
I appreciate that he is playing for Barcelona, but he he was starting games when um was it Rafinha would have been injured
Yeah, and since then he's very much a scored player
Now too could clearly like Rashford Rashford has got a lot of experience at international level
But isn't starting so many games so could there be you know a little bit rusty or what not or you could say well
Is he going to be fresh um and then
Some might say you know would ever actually as a play on that left side or is he more central you know
All it takes is an injury
Rashford or Gordon get injured you know barns is probably in and a heavy barn in terms of goals to game ratio
Which I appreciate is fairly unscientific but just to put a counterpoint out there
He's been more effective on the right than he has the left. He's very versatile interesting. Yeah, you can play
Both sides. Yeah, and that's a good point to make looks yeah, and I think with barns again
Look he was called up late. I mean it was
What you know it was an injury in the score than then he got a late call up to the 35 man side
But look he's still in there so fair play a balance for the holding on his back to himself at 28
He's only had played on one friendly five six years ago very little and that's it and he's still back to himself
He could have he could have said yep as you rightly point out
I'm going to the World Cup with Scotland and I and it's basically a shoe-in
Um, but he's chosen not to do that. He feels English. Yeah, and uh, and and and he's got England in his heart. Of course he does
Yeah, um does Ben White
We're not sure
We can't go there. Difficult. He needs to he needs to somewhere hot to go
I think he's I mean the things in Ben White's heart to me feel like Dubai definitely
ITV1
Yeah, definitely in his heart. Right. Oh, no loves. Oh, no. Yeah, it's but he's got a bit. He's got a big ITV energy
Yeah, massively. Yeah, yeah, he's he's he's he's he's he's keyer sportage. He's chicken tonight. He's ITV1
Have you seen that video of him chasing Gemma Collins when he's like he's much younger
I think he's probably still at Brighton possibly even at Leeds and he's he's running that he's somewhere oven
He's running along like just big grin on his face and and he just catches up to her and they're both on camera
He's got GC GC and she's like all right. She clearly doesn't know who he is. He is it's it's it's a proper smile in the way
I've never seen from him before because he's a very sort of deadpan man. Yeah, um, yeah
Lottery in a play. Massively massive
I mean, she's the queen of ITV2. Yeah, that is that that's bang right. He's Keith Lemon of football
Yeah, kind of yeah, and I love Ben White and you know, I obviously have I've seen Keith Lemon
So you know how I feel about him and it pains me to admit that you're right on that, but you are yeah
He's a sort of geezer a pop-up
In a Keith Lemon show. Yeah, he loves it
Um, he also was absolutely fuming with apparently a quote barbed comment from Steve Holland the last time he was in England camp
Yeah, so that's the story isn't it um that that's
I'm sure a lot of people have read this or heard this and it's been circulated for a little while
But yeah at the 2022 World Cup when Ben White was there apparently Steve Holland
Question Ben White
It's difficult that you weren't his love and passion for football
Yeah, he wasn't in the I wasn't in the room, you know, the tone of voice blah blah blah blah
But
Sources close to me say that Steve Holland said it was just like a throwaway remark
And is if you know Ben White wasn't paying too much attention and it was kind of like well look if you paid a bit more attention
Maybe you know, yeah, it was in Paris into another player
I think it might have been Kyle Walker. He apparently questioned he asked Kyle Walker
Something about a particular situation that would happen at Man City or whatever and he had an answer
He asked Ben White something similar and he said he said he didn't know and then he made that comment
And apparently also this doesn't seem to be reported with this story which comes up quite often
Apparently Ben White was going through something in his personal life at the time
Yeah, that was that was very very serious and very kind of difficult
And that often is left out of the reporting
So it's a very emotional time for him and he essentially fell undermined in front of a group of peers
Yeah, who obviously don't know that well, right? It's difficult things to come into a camp like that
But did he go home from the World Cup? He did yeah, so it must have been pretty far long
I mean that seems I mean, I have no idea what you're referring to there Jim
And I give you the benefit of that of course and clearly him
But it feels like it must be pretty serious for him to have gone all the way home from a World Cup camp
Yeah, because he was in the Euro 2020 squad
That's right, but it's a new broom now, isn't it?
Well, yeah, exactly
And that's what Tuckle said, he's also said he's confident Ben White won't be booed at Wembley
All right, he's right there
Well, I mean quite clearly Ben White is wants to play for England
You're king of the boo boys, I see you mean you're probably one of the boo boys
Have you ever booed?
No, ever booed at football match, ever
Ah, I don't, I must it and look at the opposition maybe you're a bad referee in court or something
Oh
You know
typical on the left knee
That story is so good
All right, carry on
But no, I think Ben White clearly wants to play for England
But as you say, whatever happened, we weren't there
With him and Steve Holland, he felt no, that's it
And the relationship was broken and he wasn't asked back into the side
But in the here and now
Backstarting games for Arsenal
What does he bring on the pitch?
Because let's be honest, right
Whatever's gone before
Can he play in this England side?
Is he going to add something to the right back position
Because that position
With Reese James being constantly injured, it's up for grabs
Yeah, and you've got Tina Levermento in there
So I think a lot of people quite like
He's been injured a lot as well by the way
But another player who's injured
Trent Alexander Arnold is clearly not in Thomas Tuckle's play or not
Whatever you may think of that
If this is the last chance for you to get it, then he's not going
Trent's not going to the World Cup, barring a load of injuries
And even Zed, he probably like Conzer or whoever else
Right back
But Ben White's in gym, what do you think then
Of his credentials and what he could bring to that position for England
So this is actually an unusual time I think for Ben White to get this call up
Because he hasn't played that
And he's had, every time he's put a little run of games together, he's got another injury
Traditionally, he takes a bit of time to get back up to full speed after an injury
I think he had a bad injury that he played through
A few seasons ago and I think it might have affected his
Just his body in a way that he's still feeling the repercussions of
So I mean, in the Carabell Cup Final, he looks absolutely gasped after about an hour
And that's been a sort of facet of his game
Fairly recently because as I say, he's still getting back up to speed
And getting into the rhythm of playing regularly
That said, once he does get into that rhythm, he is an absolute machine
And he's really, really sort of really good as an overlapping option as a fallback
No, it's a soccer world
Absolutely and it's rare I think that you see someone who started as a centreback
Take to that side of a fallback's game so well but he's very, very good at that
So you will be getting a very traditional right back
Really in that sense of kind of bombing up and down the wing like that
It's not always the best in sort of one-on-one situations
But he's also not absolutely terrible at it's certainly kind of one of the kind of weakest spots in his game
So yeah, I mean, he's a dependable right back
He's very, very solid, obviously very sort of calm, headed, very cool and collected
We see that just from his personality really
So yeah, that's what you'd be getting
Like I say, I think he wouldn't get in over Reese James
But it's very unlikely James is going to be there
The Reese James is such a role's role of a player
We all hope that he's going to fit
But you think it's unlikely he's going to be there, do you?
Well, I don't mean he's going to be there
Yeah true, I mean
And this injury has got his only apparently a minor one
Okay, it's all right
All right, I think I think I think that if you're going to gamble on a player
We saw Southgate gamble on players that you're a 224
There was one player to who was going to gamble on
If it just wasn't, it would be Reese James
Yeah, and also I mean James can do a very, very good job in midfield
It's all in the way, because we've seen him do it for Chelsea
In the way that it hasn't for Trent
The drop off from a fully fit Reese James is absolutely seismic
Because another one of the fallbacks in there who could play that right
So because he is right for his jet spins
Yeah, but again, I can't just play dead, no
Well, the cons are going to be another one, yeah
So but cons are you would think would be first and foremost
He's a center off
But can't do a job right back
But again, you're in that you're in the
The reality is Reese James is a miles better off than any of a plan to do
And I think I think next down the line
I would think would probably be Tino Levermento
But if you
Yeah, and I think Levermento is also really good
But he's also missed a decent amount of football for injury
But there's a little quiz for you there
How many games do you think Reese James has played for club and country
Since the start of this season if you include the club World Cup
Oh, this is this is this is a player you
If everyone thinks he's at all the time, I would reckon it'd be about
25 maybe I think probably about 35 47 the other 47
There you go, there you go, there you go
He's having appearances
Yeah, so so and and in that is quite a lot of start
So he has played he has a lot of players find it hard
Understandably so to to to shake off this tag of being injury
I know that Reese James was like two seasons ago
Missed like six months ago
Yeah, I thought he'd had a more serious injury than he does
I thought he was a doubt, please not
I don't know how how serious it is
But I thought it was a much more minor than people are saying
But who knows
Ultimately that's why Ben White's been called up
Because we need to get some cover there
And if it turns out that the Reese James can't make it
Then he can't make it, I mean he's going to get on with it
Haven't you?
You've got to get over there
So we'll be fascinated to see who he starts for the the game
Tonight we'll be there
Yeah, wow indeed
Yeah, we're going to we're going to enjoy Bielser
And the the do you think one of the reasons why
Tuckle has left a lot of players who would be
Vowing for first team positions and some of them nailed on
Obviously Kane and Declan rise
You're thinking
Friendly gets Euro-wide
They could just turn up and kick the shit out of us
They're in a bit of a kind of sorry state at the moment as well
So apparently Bielser made Darwin Nune's cry at a half time
Of a game
They went into Nune, but how is Bielser making Darwin Nune his cry
Darwin wait can I have a little sit on your bucket
He went no
And you find that very surprising to hear
Do we know why?
Do we know what we said?
Really sure
Yeah, okay
They qualified relatively straightforwardly for the World Cup, didn't they?
Yeah
We're expected them to get the shit out of us at Wembley
But he's agreed a strong referee is what we need
We did a very strong referee
And we need some strong players
Is that why Ben White's been called up as a sort of punishment?
Yeah, quite possibly
But again, but against Euro-wide
Again, he was a late call up
It was only in injuries that put him in there
So, hopefully England won't suffer any injuries against Euro-wide tonight
Well, you'll be there, won't you, to sort of make sure that everything's going on
Well, I think it's an injury I'll boo them off of the pitch then
If that works
Take your magic sponge
I should say so
I should say so
And now speaking of England fans
Have you seen the England superfan Andy Miln?
You know the guy looks a bit like Steve McLaren
Yeah
I think he first came to our attention to the 2022 Qatar World Cup
If you did
If you are listening or who or watching this
And you don't quite know how to picture England's superfan Andy Miln
I can give you Pete Dawson's description if you'd like
Pete Dawson this morning on WhatsApp described him as
A cheeky face for us Gen X's
I don't think he connects with the young
But he's a proper meat and potatoes 90s
He's a proper meat and potatoes 1980s uncle face
Maybe did a turn on the opportunity locks back in the day
Owned a jag but lost it on the horses
That's what he looks like
And to be fair you said in reply to that totally agree with this
Type of lad back in the 80s in gospel
He was either high on the hog and taking the kids to Disney World
Or absolutely on the bones of his ass
Yeah, that's right
And that's right
Those two descriptions are absolutely right
Rollercoaster of an 80s bloke
Yeah
That's what he looks like that
Yeah
Whereas in practice
It seems like he's got a spare house doesn't he
When I grew up there was a place called Headkill
Which is a hard way in Elson district community association
Where you go there for events
They did like a big New Year's Eve party or whatever
And he's 100% when I was about 12
Yeah
The type of geezer
Who you knew through your dad
Who had a gold bracelet
And he petitioned out tenors
Yes
To the kids
And he'd buy your coax and tell you to make him last
That kind of guy
Well, he lives in Thailand then he will
Right
So a bit more modern than what you're talking about
But still I think it's in the same genre
He's going to put his second home in Cheshire on the market
To go to the World Cup
To go to the World Cup
He's got tickets for every game up to the final
As we know that will set you back over four thousand pounds
You must have good England points for that as well
Oh, he's got loads of England points
But that'll set you back over a four grand in Qatar
To give to remind you all
That would have been just over a thousand pounds
Okay
They have again
Just to remind you
They have hiked the prices of the bastards
I mean
England's superfan Andy Milne is selling his house
So he can
Selling a house
Which does put it in perspective
So yeah, so he can go to Thailand
So this is the home he comes back to
So I think that puts it in a little bit more respect
But look
He said the last order in Qatar was a present to myself
I have been saving for years
We had a second over 27 years
So it felt like the right time to cash in
The first World Cup at your tender was in 1982
Incredible
But he said I always try to do things cheaply if I can
I will couch surf where possible
I am lucky to have friends in Mexico, Dallas and Vancouver
So he's selling his house
And he still having to couch sir
That's what this World Cup is
Selling his house
But Alexey Lannas is really proud of the ticket prices
Sure
The country
He wanted an absolute bellend
He's a disciplined bellend
Lannas is
Because he was
He was
Proper bellend
He's a proper like son
I am disappointed
In the case back in the day he was like a character
He was a 90's and the World Cup 94
Yeah but we didn't know that much about
Probably the guitar and stuff, didn't he
Yeah but he had a goatee beard
Like the father
He looked funny
Yeah, the father
Not bad
Yeah, I spoke to my friend
He was quite big in the England Supporters Association
Not you
And
But I'm not in England
But you look why you're not part of that official make up
I love you as an ambassador
They would
I'd say
They would
He'll decide
Your eyes glazed over there
I was a good thing with you
Yeah
I've got young kids
I'm off for seven weeks
So I'm spending everything we own
Yeah
Fair point
Just sell your second house
True
I've got to get it first
But I've set a message to my friend who's involved
and that stuff
I've asked him what he thinks of England super fun Andy Meal
So if I get an update, I'll tell you
Well yeah, I have one of my one of my mates who goes to
Washington and play they actually met him
And he sent a little
A little
A video note to our back of the day when I was still playing for the football note
And he was he was he seemed like a good lad
Oh do he
Yeah
He loves to sell him
He's got a book out as well
Who's that for?
The England boys
Is he then
Yeah
It's just people he's better at games
But England boys like England footballers
They're like England games
Yeah but they don't like this weirdo fan
This guy's one of us
On the front cover of the book
He's wearing a 1998 England top
And he's holding the actual one of the actual
But he's holding a world cup replica
Well you took a replica with him to a cat house didn't you
Yeah he loved a bit of that
Who's the publisher here
Yeah
I'll find one
You ever looked at him
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No he's done his job for it then right
Oh all right Andy you've done well out of us
I think it's time for a break
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Tomorrow at 5pm it's Scotland versus Japan
Against who, sorry? Japan
Thank you
Doing their British tour
Do it like Alex Ferguson would do it
Japan
Yeah
But kind of more up it, up it, more energy
Japan
No, but Ferguson was famously very dismissive of Ben
I don't think you're going to come over if I do it
I know, particularly in that second syllable
I am doing it, I've done it about five times
You're not being dismissive enough
Okay, all right
In their British tour
Or Tour of Britain
Scotland are going to face Japan
Yeah, that's not fair
I'll wait for Scotland then of course they're playing England on Tuesday
Not I think it is
Scotland though
Returning to the field for the first time since that famous 4-2 victory over Denmark
The scenes in that game
Oh, that game was amazing
It was so good
The scenes of a different nature
How could you, how can you not like international football
Would you witness that
It was incredible that was
Yeah
How many were played with it? It's just thinking ah
Poro here in Tini
Could you be talking about him now
But can you be trying to do that
He's thinking he's thinking
Ah, I can run it into the corner of nobody's pressure
But I can just slip someone in
Do you know what?
Yalney
It's what
It's one of those nights
Oh, the goal's got on empty
Oh, do you remember
We all forget about Scotland
The top of the day is incredible bicycle kick in that game as well
Well, it's not a mural now, isn't it
Well, it's yes
It is now
Diego Maradona's son, one of his many children, has called Scott McTominay Jesus
Hmm, right
And now after McTominay scored to secure a 1-0 victory for Napoli over Calgary
And Diego Armando Maradona Jr
Jr. said
After my father, McTominay is the most decisive player in the history of Napoli
We had God at Napoli in the form of Diego
But for me, McTominay is Jesus
He's a completely fundamental player
Hmm
Yeah, I mean, it's an intriguing quote
Diego Maradona officially recognized eight children in his lifetime
But according to the Google search, I've just done
He has been the subject to several long-running paternity disputes
Yeah, so
We don't know how many
Right
But one of them who has come out of the woodwork
Is he presumably used to sit at football his son?
Is he, doesn't like careers?
I don't know
He's got a different career, I think
Yeah, I think it's probably, it's different when you call that
Exactly
He made a name as well, fuck's eight
Yeah
There's a whole thing
Is he gone over the top there with Scott?
Well, he went over the top of his father
Saying that we had God at Napoli, the form of Diego
Yeah
I mean, I've
But that would make him Jesus, you know, God's
True, that's true
That's what Neaport is genuine, you think?
No, isn't he?
Well, there was just a moment, just a moment, just a moment, just a moment
I mean, that lasted Argentina
Right, okay, fine
The Church of Diego Maradona
I know you've both read Diego Maradona's autobiography
Yeah
And I, if you're listening and you haven't read it, I absolutely urge you to do that
Because about every 10 pages, he just casually mentions that he's never cheated on his wife
Just in all kinds of contact
Eight paternity disputes that we know of
Just the eight
That's the thing, the disputes that we know of
Yeah, we got to the children
I don't think, it's a part of me to think
Your Diego Maradona, I'm surprised it's not more than that
Oh, that's what I mean
He's a God in Argentina
I mean, you've just mentioned almost quite literally
To some people
Certainly, deified
I think Scott Potomac
One thing we can all agree on here
Go on
It's when Scott Potomac left under something of a cloud that man United
We didn't expect this
We didn't expect this
The new
We were not prepared for this
We thought he might do quite well
Yeah
Yeah
All of a sudden, he's the new Maradona
Right
Yeah
It's amazing
Nothing about him as a player
Yeah
Reminds me of Maradona
No
Well, to be fair, I know he said he's the most decisive player
Right, okay, fine
So that's what you said
It's a bit of translation thing there, mate
But I mean, you know, we know he's had a great time there
And a long way to continue
It's great that he's enjoying these chords
Because he's having a lovely time
But an international liver is having a lovely time as well
Out on the town dressed in macularly
He looks so good
Have you seen that picture of him
Just looking like a million bucks
No, it's not that one
It's another one
He's leaning on a wall
And Kevin DeBroiner of all people
He's looking at him with like, puppy dog eye
Just like
Just absolutely thrilled by the aura of Scott Potomac
We've often said
If you had a football career
You've unfortunately not to be a player
You went overseas
You'd have to really embrace it
Throw yourself into it
What tends to happen
Not so much now
But back in the day
With British players going overseas
They just wouldn't get into the mindset
But well, they're still different here
And I don't quite like it
If you immerse yourself in it
You could be Scott Potomac
Do you remember the first thing with tomatoes
It was like these tomatoes are amazing
Yeah, it tastes really good
Yeah
Maybe that's the secret
They do take tomatoes very seriously
They're just better out there though
Yeah, well, obviously
Well, indeed
But Scott Potomac
Even international level
I mean, it's all coming up
Him he's got a World Cup to look forward to
And I'll tell you something
Right now
Carla mentioned a lot in Brazil
They are making plans on how to deal with this kind
They will be
But Steve Clark, though
Who's done
You have to say
Despite his critics
He's done pretty well at Scott Potomac
He's got them to the World Cup
He's out of contract after the World Cup
Incidentally
Yeah, that's funny
He's got a chefa
Yet to offer him a new contract
I think they'll just be basically waiting to see
How it goes
I mean, let's be honest
In that game against Denmark
All joking aside
It could have gone the other way
And Clark has had his critics
You know, it's slightly similar
In part to what Southgate faced at England
You know, obviously improved the mood
You know, got them at all
And stuff that I doubt
But people thinking this football has not been
The most exciting
And so on and so forth
So
But I think that that is true
But I think surely the debate is settled
Now because the end has justified the measure
Yeah, but they're tacking the way
Fair tournament is qualified for
Which is pretty good
But the way they went out of Euro 2024
That pissed off a reasonable amount of
Cool, but this fan
Sure, but the slate's been wiped clean
And they've just qualified for the World Cup
And a spectacular way
And they're going to be playing Brazil
Yeah, it did
So I think that is why
They're going to see how they get on at the tournament
And that's fair enough
But in the fans more of you
You've got an even this begrudging
That you've got to be like, okay fair enough
No, I think they are
But that's why I don't think he's been off at the new contract
Fine
All right then everybody
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Well I think to be honest
Yeah
I've started to
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