The price of denial: What America failed to learn from 9/11

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1:01I mean, you host Lieutenant Colonel Sargis and Geary, you'll saw me retired and the CEO of the Near East Center for Strategic and Gacon and also a board member of the National Security Hour. And of course, coming back returning a dear colleague and a friend Claire M Lopez who was a founder and president of Lope as Liberty LLC with a mission to alert the Americans to the National Security Trets, both international and from the Islamic movements, Muslim Brotherhoods and their Marxist collaborators operating in this country. Claire from 2014 to 2020 served as a VP for research and analysis at the Center for Security Policy. She has been a senior fellow at the London Center for Policy Research and a member of the Board of Advisors for the Canadian McKinsey Institute. Claire is currently acting for us, at least on the Near East side as a director of US just strategic security issues for the NECSC.

2:04From 2013 to 2016, Claire served as a member of the Citizens Commission on MIGAZ again continues as a member of the Citizens Commission on National Security, formerly VP of the Intelligence Summit. She was a career operational officer at the Central Intelligence Agency, a professor at the Center for Counterterrorism Security Studies, executive director of the Iran Policy Committee from 2005 to 2006 and has served as a consultant instructor, intelligence analyst and researcher for the Radio Defense firms. She was named a 2011 Lincoln Fellow at the Claire Mountain Institute. Claire is great to have you here again. Hey, thanks, Argyst, very glad to be back with you. Claire, I do want to always now and then go into folks' background and of course, it's way more than what I just read here for our audiences. But I know that we're coming up on 9-11 and the radio networks and TV are going to be

3:11covering extensively what happened on 9-11. But I wanted to get ahead of it so people have some time to kind of digest what we talk about today and some of the key issues that they might not be aware of as we head towards the 9-11 anniversary and I wanted to bring you in here so we could really kind of focus on really the two major significant events that happened which was attacking the twin towers and also Benghazi itself. But you also learned a lot of lessons being a member of the commission that looked into the issues of 9-11 and I just wanted to initially go back, take your back to when it initially happened and your initial takes what happened then and what were we now? You know, 20 plus years later from half a century later I should say from what happened on 9-11. Yeah, so you know Sarge says you probably know and maybe some of your listeners also know

4:16too. I was an expert witness in a legal case that was called a Havish versus Bin Laden at all about 9-11. Havish was the name of one of what came to be a group of about seven widows, widows of pilots who died at 9-11 and others too. And after 9-11 these women came to a legal firm in Pennsylvania and asked that legal firm to take on the case of investigating what actually happened on 9-11 because they did not trust the United States government to get to the bottom of it. And so that case began shortly after 9-11. I think about 2002 but I did not join in the group until later on and maybe better so because in the beginning the group, this legal firm which actually grew to a consortium

5:23of I forget seven, eight or something law firms altogether, they began looking at Saddam Hussein and Iraq as potentially behind the attacks of 9-11. And obviously within at least a few years they realized that was completely off-tracks Saddam Hussein and Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11. And so at that point I don't know is about mid-2000s. They turned their attention to Iran. Now I was invited to join the team about 2009 towards the end and served with the team until 2011. Late December 2011 is when Judge George Daniels handling the case for the Southern District of New York, Federal District Court in Manhattan when he issued his ruling again then at the

6:28end of December 2011. And in that ruling he ruled from the bench actually that Iran and Hisbalah were co-responsible with Al-Qaeda for the attacks of 9-11. Now obviously the Taliban and even Saudi Arabia played some role in all of this but the focus of our case have reached versus been laden at all towards the latter part of the case. The focus was on Iran and Hisbalah and their historical relationship, Jihad relationship with Al-Qaeda. Yeah and for listeners if you want to just get you know as you're listening to the interview you on a Google search law dot just DIA dot com L A W dot J U S T I A dot com

7:28is going to have that specific case in there in the search box. As you stated it was the United States District Court, Southern District of New York and it was the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2011 and it has it here where George B. Daniels district judge and in the first paragraph it says the plaintiffs and the multi district litigation, seek monetary damages from the defendants who are liable for the physical destruction that the ninjuri suffered as a result of the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001 September 11 attacks on December 22nd, 2011. Default judgment was entered on behalf of the plaintiffs and have a lush action plaintiffs against the certain sovereign defendants including as the states the Islamic Republic of Iran, I told Ali Hussein Khamenei, Huzbullah and other Iranian individuals and entities.

8:28So you know I mean it's it amazes me I declared that a lot of people don't know even the simplest issues. Even the folks of my generation who witnessed not even when I was in the service of course when it happened they never did follow up on the legal litigation to kind of follow up as to what happened. Was it do you think that we just were so busy with the war and we were not paying attention at that time global war on terror or is it because it's the American public just doesn't really go deep diving into the issues that really are the drivers behind what the outcome would be for us and international and this would be in the courts and with legal action. Right. Well you know I co-authored one of the affidavits and there were many maybe a dozen or more affidavits all told in this case but I co-authored one of them with a dear colleague now passed on Bruce Teft and our affidavit was actually the history of the relationship the jihadi

9:38relationship among what would become al-Qaeda and Iran's regime and his bala and you know the the beginning of that relationship which our intelligence agencies apparently simply never picked up on now there are hints about that relationship in the 9-11 commission report but not very well you know laid out not explained well well our affidavit does explain that and what happened is that at the end of the war in Afghanistan that took up most of the 1980s the Soviet then Soviet Red Army was defeated and removed themselves left Afghanistan and the fighting forces that include jihadis who had fled who had come to to Afghanistan from all over

10:43the world began to trickle back home to wherever they had come from and among those were the Saudis who had been supplied and funded by Usama bin Laden who of course was not a fighter himself at all never engaged in combat but was a a funder he was a wealthy Saudi and he he funded various things for the the Mujjahidine vehicles housing for them and route to and from Afghanistan that sort of thing well as the war ended towards the end of the 1980s 1989 the the far the forces that had come from Saudi Arabia and looked to Usama bin Laden as their benefactor I suppose this was not yet

11:44al-Qaeda they they had not coalesced into al-Qaeda yet these were just Saudi forces they wanted to go home and well a various stuit royal at that point in the king of Saudi Arabia said no way know how you're not coming back here and so they fetched up instead in cartoon in Sudan where the Muslim brotherhood president at the time and his Muslim brotherhood supporter Hassan Tarabi the the president of course was at the time oh come on uh Usama no not Usama Omar al-Bashir Omar al-Bashir and the two of them teamed up by Shire and his Muslim brotherhood buddy and welcomed essentially all of the jihadi forces in the world in certainly the region the world to come to cartoon for a grand

12:50I called it a grand jihad jamboree and so you had all of the forces the Saudis and of Usama bin Laden his deputy at the time I'm in al-Zawahdi Egyptian but also there came the PLO representatives fell state liberation organization you had the pflp you had top leadership of hisbalah and you had the entire top leadership of the Iranian regime at the time led by Ali Akbar Shemir Rafsanjani president and also coming with him was the head of the IRGC at the time Muslim Rizahi a name that will ring a bell now because he's back in power in Iran today we can talk about that and the head of the intelligence service of Iran Ali Fala'ian more that whole group the Iranian top leadership came to cartoon to meet with their Sunni counterparts of all

13:55these different terror organizations with some of them in Laden and I'm in al-Zawahdi and they're their entire team and that was the beginning of that alliance between Sunnis and Shiites that eventually in another 10 11 years would lead to 9-11 yeah it would and you know it's funny how you know the Arab world always with these extremists rewrites history because you know bin Laden right after 9-11 the first statement he made was and I'm going to quote him what America's tasting now is something insignificant compared to what we have tasted for scores of years in his first act just of course after 9-11 and he says the Islamic world has been testing the humiliation and the degradation for 80 years the Sykes Pico agreement

14:57he says was one of the reasons that he's pointing to and I don't understand what he's even talked about Sykes Pico agreement actually gave power to the Arab nations and created the power of the Arab Ottomans it had marginalized all the minorities like the Christian Assyrians who were butchered like dogs you know in World War I so you literally had countries given to their tribesmen who did not ever control those areas in the long term except for under the you know sort of Allah as they say in the Middle East for the betterment of the Caliphates who you know and who always did nothing morning just shed blood in the region I think a lot of people if you ask him today who calls the most bloodshed and the world was in Ginghis Khan or others people say Ginghis Khan was really Tamar Lane who killed way more individuals than even Ginghis

16:01Condit and he literally fired in Europe and Asia and all over the Middle East but it's unfortunate we are where we are and go ahead you know I never did answer the the rest of your question there and that was why didn't this story why didn't this ruling in 2011 get more attention and the reason is that that was during the Obama administration and this entire case and its ruling conclusion were completely squashed because I think the the Obama administration was already looking forward to what would become the rapprochement with Iran and that would lead up eventually to the Iran nuclear deal the JCPOA but by 2011 late 2011 they were already headed in that direction it is and unfortunately that case actually collectively had awarded damages north of 6 trillion plus of course never never awarded the victims their families never got any never got a dollar but

17:05Iran did get what it needed to probably more than 6 trillion dollars who since saying is a common yeah but to this day I mean to this day this case is unknown I suspect even to the current Trump administration I suspect it's not known because it was squashed no definitely and we'll be back in a second segment to discuss a bit more as to why we are where we are today we'll be back for a discussion with Claire Lopez. Feeling off since COVID try the wellness company Spike Detox trio packed with nato kinase bromelain and turmeric to help boost your immune system and fight off harmful spike proteins bounce back with energy and clarity go to TWC.Health forward slash out loud and use promo code out loud for 20% off your first order. Oral hygiene hasn't changed in 50 years but our diet and the way we eat has creating an environment in your mouth for bacteria to rec havoc on your teeth and gums for better oral health get spried dental defense and oral Caroline designed to combat acid creating bacteria the toothpaste mouth washments and gum all

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20:19for democracy and human rights in Saudi Arabia, the United West and the voices of the coptex or the cops. She has been a visiting researcher and guest lecturer on counterterrorism, national defense and international relations at Georgetown University, a regular contributor to Ranger Media and subject related to China, Russia, Iran and the Middle East. Claire, I would like to have possible start with what happened recently and I do want to remind our audience or focus is 9-11 what happened then and what we are today and some of the things that you they might not be aware of. I know that the CIA chief was meaning in Russia. What do you think is behind it if there is anything you could shed a light on with the most recent discussions I have taken place? Are we even anywhere close to addressing the issues with the,

21:20not just the Iran War but with the Ukraine War and what might be happening with the focus on what our near peers trying to do which in this case the Chinese Communist Party leadership has stated on this G that the Chinese military needs to be ready to at least take action against Taiwan by 2030. So where do you think we are today and if you can fill us in a little bit as to what might be behind the discussions with Russia? Yeah well let me go back first and finish the lead up to 9-11 the date by the way 9-11, September 11, deliberately chosen for those who know Islamic history because that was the date in 1683 the year 1683 when the Ottoman Turks had besieged Vienna and to their rescue rode Yan Sobiaski the king of the Polish people and liberated Vienna from the Ottoman Turks

22:25on September 11 in a huge battle in 1683. Well on up through the 1990s okay coming back to 9-11 we saw the fruit of that relationship formed in Cartoon between the Sunnis and the Shiites in 1990 6 no 1993 oh tell me if I got the dates right in any case Kobar Towers was attacked by Kizballa but here's here's what I needed to explain that there in Cartoon Rafa Sanjani the president of Iran at the time wanted the Iranian... Just to clarify so our listens on Geekifus it was in 1996 okay host right first yeah yeah go ahead 1996 Kobar Towers but back it up the the way this came together is that at those meetings in Cartoon hosted by president Bashir Umar al-Bashir

23:34the Osama bin Laden was president as we said and the the Iranian president uh Rafa Sanjani also was there and bin Laden asked Rafa Sanjani uh can your Hisbala boys teach my guys how to do big building bombing suicide bombings like Hisbala had done on behalf of Iran at our Marine Corps barracks the embassy also the French got hit in Beirut in 1983 and at that point Rafa Sanjani calls over Imad Mugnae the terror chief of Hisbala and says you train those guys you Hisbala terror chief and Imad Mugnae train the what would become soon the al-Qaeda guys how to do big building truck suicide bombings that's where Kobar Towers came from in 1996 1998 you've got the East Africa embassy bombings in Nairobi and Daris Alam same thing al-Qaeda did

24:37it but Hisbala trained them come on up to October of the year 2000 and you had the USS coal in harbor in Yemen hit not by a truck of course but by a explosive laden boat casualties almost sank the ship but they saved it and then eventually finally 9-11 itself which was coordinated and organized by Iran Imad Mugnae the terror chief of Hisbala personally in late 2000 early 2001 went to Saudi Arabia obviously with their acquiescence to recruit personally the Saudi hijackers Imad Mugnae hisbala did that so that that brings us up you know to to what 9-11 actually was well to the current day you know we're still looking at an Iranian regime under the regime that took power with the revolution of 1979 under the itola Ruhala Khomeini and his successor of course

25:45the now also dearly not so dearly departed supreme leader Ali Khamenei with his son Mojtaba named as his supreme leader successor but nobody's ever seen or heard a thing from him since the opening night February 28 to march the first of this year 2026 of operation roaring lion by the Israelis and operation epic fury by the United States no one's ever seen Mojtaba so whether it's alive or dead we don't know but in charge of the regime in Iran is the IRGC Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and they are the ones that are running the current war not only against the United States and Israel big Satan little Satan as they would call them us but also against their own people whom they have slaughtered by the tens of thousands so where we are right now you know the the reason actually in June of 2025 for the United States then

26:54it was called Operation Midnight Hammer and the Israelis Operation Rising Lion the opening of that salvo if you will against Iran was because they were on the verge of deliverable nuclear weapons not only did they have the stockpile of highly enriched uranium that we've heard about spoken publicly Steve Wittkopf in an interview on one of the cable TV channels mentioned that but also they had the missiles the ballistic missiles with a range that even right now can reach not only all of our US bases and facilities in the Middle East Israel obviously but also just about every capital of Western Europe I mean London Paris Rome Berlin and more and so you've got the highly enriched uranium you've got the missiles and the the the information that is open source go to the IAEA International Atomic Energy Agency go to David Albright's group what we call the

27:57Good ISIS ISIS Institute for the for Science and International Security and the reporting is there about the work that the Iranian regime was doing at ballistic missile sites for example out in Semnan Province at Shakhirud Ivanovki the work they were doing there in 2025 with warheads I don't mean loaded up with nuclear fissile explosives on the inside no but they were working on the warheads and fitting them to the nose cones of their missiles that's why we had to go Israel had to go in 25 and then return even though the nuclear sites at Natanz's Fahan and Fardo had been hit and lie today beneath a lot of rubble they were trying to continue the program somehow some way excavate go back down underneath and go to a place that has not yet ever been inspected by the IAEA or hit and that's called Piquex Mountain Kuhik Lang in in Farsi as they as they call it

29:05Piquex Mountain a little bit south of Natanz kind of the central part of Iran in the Zagros Mountain region so that is how we got to to where we are right now in return for those strikes by Israelis and the United States Iran attempted to close off the international shipping lanes of the straight of Hormuz in and out of the Persian Gulf the United States countered with a blockade of our own stopping all traffic going into or out of Iranian ports but now especially now we're mid-2026 clearing all the mines that are relayed in the straight of Hormuz and an escorting other shipping from our Gulf partners and allies like Kuhik Bahrain the United Arab Emirates Qatar even Saudi Arabia to go in and out of the straight of Hormuz cleared the mines of the

30:06in the channel and escorting them sometimes by night in the darkness and they turn off their transponders so that they can they can slip through undetected even though the Iranians continue to try to lob missile attacks drone attacks at at those ships and also at those Persian Gulf neighbors yes we have bases there but at the neighbors themselves including some of their sensitive water decelinization plants for example and that is where we are right now at the moment and I know you want to get to the the recent visit of the United States but before we do that clear before we do that though the one thing I do want to clarify what would all this information that we have okay again it boggles my mind but maybe you shouldn't you know I've been around long enough now to know that stupidity is a gift from God my grandmother you said was saying

31:11only a few talented individuals possess it unfortunately they end up in your family they tried to make it a virtue by you wish you a little by and this is a illiterate woman who was born in the mountains under the eroded she had enough sense to understand what stupidity is okay yes she had wisdom but this week you know the Canadian broadcasters told the staff not to call the 911 terror attacks why do we call them necessarily we could skip terror attacks just call them what they were a jihad attack yeah yeah and but at the same time it was just this week where we have the State Department of Rear that the port portland antifa was connected to Hamas Iranian IRGC and a sweeping you know terror action as as they called it were Secretary of State that the four left terrorism posities profound threat to the United States and the broader west and then just even going back under the in October of 23 where the Biden

32:13administration you know suspended Iranian envoy Robert Malley was a tie for helping to fund support and direct Iranian intelligence operations and I was just out of the State Department but also the Pentagon where you know you had you had the area now serving as the chief of staff for the assistance secretary of defense for special operations so I don't understand how you can have that much of a footprint and imprint and in American politics when you have a government that toppled the Shah which was an American ally to where you could have the IRGC they replaced them and caused a debt of so many Americans have such a footprint even to where it can have influence well yeah you know I would say a couple of things one I think we have a long time since really lost

33:19our our our our capability encounter intelligence and we have also been mistaken and greatly mistaken in foreign policy you know about who is this enemy we face that calls us the Shaitan Bazaar the big the big the great Satan and Israel the Shaitan Gujek the little Satan who is this enemy who are 12 years the IRGC are what are called 12 years that means Shait Islamic followers of the 12 Imam and we can talk about that and we can talk about how the red and the green communist you mentioned Antifa the red and the green axis as we call it come together right now not because the radiologies are completely aligned they're not but rather because they share the same objective currently and that is the destruction of the United States of America this Republic of ours and

34:20Western civilization overall that is the goal that they share and you know so we we've got to face this double threat of communism and and Islam and I don't think we're well prepared for either one partly because we've lost track of our own history or world history too communist history Islamic history and as I said before we've lost our edge in in in counterintelligence and security awareness you know I hear you from a professional standpoint but common sense should just tell you that this guy might want to kill you eventually when somebody cracks a gun points at your head it says I'm gonna kill you you might want to take him seriously so it is what it is it's unfortunate that we have actual individuals born in this country raised in this country that have no concept of

35:24what's on the other side and allowed them to come into your family and try to influence your even destroy your government from inside but you know that's why communists and uh Islamists are able to work together so much because they didn't in Iran to overthrow the Shah and I tell people because I have the same kind of a concept right a mullah who wants to put money in his pocket from oil sales basically says well you know oil is given by God so because it's given by God like rainwater is everybody should have a right to use it not just government and uh the state apparatus so uh he tells his followers go and steal it because uh you're not doing anything wrong uh so just just like a Islamist uh justifies it a communist justifies it too if I could real quick I'll finish up this I know we're at the end of the segment um Iran is a perfect example of this each side the red and the green thinks that they're going to be

36:25the victor uh at the end and they're the ones who are going to uh come out the you know in triumph over over over all the rest and uh uh the other side um however look what happened in Iran you had you had exactly the reds in the greens you had communist today party fettine uh and obviously the islamic not Islamist islamic uh leadership uh that uh under Khomeini that took over uh and what happened the moment that Khomeini took over he established the IRGC and they went into the streets and they slaughtered uh the the ranks of those uh who had fought with him Khomeini meaning today fettine in the communist and the own only the islamic uh Shiite 12-er regime remains to this day well let's hope to people who voted to marry in uh New York uh listen to you but uh we'll come back and we'll talk about it in the uh third segment of our discussion with

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38:28alert americans to the national security threats both international and from the islamic movement Muslim brotherhood and their marces collaborators in the country uh i do want to remind our audiences that you can find out more about this show and get all the latest podcasts if you go to the menu navigation bar at america.lod.com on their or show or schedule and you will be in the note Claire um i know we push it a couple of segments down uh you know but i do want to kind of cover this before we get into what is happening here with the red and the uh and the green does almost and the uh and the communist working in our country uh but uh anything on the uh on the rush uh uh meaning that the place. Yeah i'm visited by uh rca director john ratcliffe to maska was a very whirlwind trip actually he was only uh in maska for a very few hours before he turned around and came back home again. Lots of speculation running rampant all over social media as you can expect

39:31and elsewhere uh we still don't have an actual official statement from the u.s uh government on uh exactly what that trip was about but the speculation runs to um ratcliffe going to warn uh off putin fladimir putin the the president the dictator of russia uh warn him off of uh attacks perhaps uh thought uh to be preparing against maybe the baltic states uh estonia latvia letthuania maybe other natal countries perhaps romania um and uh also uh threats uh very open threats now coming out of russia against uh britain for example uh specifically britain because they have uh offered to provide um uh storm shadow uh missiles uh to ukraine for its own defense against uh the the russian empire is attempt to uh to destroy it um and so

40:38for all of these reasons and perhaps uh some cyber threats as well against the united states and perhaps others this is all speculation we do not know but these are the thoughts that uh are coming out in the media in different places as potentially the reason why uh ratcliffe uh went there two mosco um for such a quick visit clear clear if i could i know that uh as i stated before it in febru of twenty twelve you're uh named a member of the congressional task force on the natural home i security focusing on electromagnetic pulse threats and i know that uh this week uh on the august 26th i was executive order 14 420 executive order 14 420 i stated that declaring a national emergency to secure the united states bulk power system um anything from your perspective uh um if i i just skim through that very quickly this this very afternoon and um it it is focused

41:47it seems to me uh in large measure on components within elements of our um electric grid uh that come from um i'm not sure they specifically name but i think we can all understand probably china china has uh all kinds of components inside our our power grid our electric power grid especially well the the civilian grid which is uh woefully unprotected um but now we find out riddled with components uh from from china um and i think that was the major focus of that uh emergency um uh national security emergency issued by the white house just yeah it says just so you know it says uh the term quote unquote covered foreign entity unquote yeah a country or any person uh owned by controlled by or subject to jurisdiction or this aggression of a government of foreign country

42:50uh i i mean i don't know why we don't just say who it is well i mean yeah and he's under international terror regulations no very publicly openly that that there are components uh from china in for example our um you know our high voltage um transmission towers they have chinese components and if you can possibly imagine um there may be from other places i mean russia it's it it's very possible as well and certainly russia has been engaged in uh a very hostile um the plan program of of uh what some people call hybrid warfare or hi uh or warfare in the gray zone you might have heard that term uh but it includes cyber attacks uh across NATO countries europe um here in the united states we know that a rann uh is being named um as the culprit behind uh cyber attacks against some of our water systems another element

43:54of our critical infrastructure water systems so uh what we're looking at really is an access of aggression as sometimes it's called and that would be russia iran china add to that uh north korea those four anyway um and uh so this emergency declaration though coming right after um uh director rat clifry turns from the trip to masco um is notable and would seem to indicate uh at least um concern and maybe a warning given to vladimir putin um whatever you're thinking about don't do it and china as well don't do it because those two china and russia are very closely aligned right now they are and unfortunately they have a lot of influence are internal uh political domestic issues uh where we have communist early running elections in united states and aslamas uh you know in support of those individuals

44:57um i mean uh uh uh uh you know i don't i don't know if people do the background research on any of these individuals to include just going to their social media and see what they write before they walk in and vote for these folks uh i mean uh zora mandani uh mandani himself uh you know tell us about his background what is some of the stuff maybe the people should be aware of to understand who these candidates are so zora and mandani newly elected uh as mayor of new york city took office in january of this year 2026 um uh himself uh wrote on his own at that time twitter uh account uh social media account he said uh love my ismaelis because he he his family they are of the ismaelis sect of shiait islam that originated obviously out of jibbon uh then the family moved over to uh uh to india and then from there migrated to yuganda and from there to the

46:03united states uh but in any case he wrote love my ismaelis but but i'm an isna ashtara isna ashtara in arabic means twelver so he is identifying himself in his own words this is november of 2019 when it was still called twitter uh that he is a follower of the shiait twelfth imam now here's the thing about the twelfth imam all of islam sunni and shiait believe in a messianic figure they call the mahti uh whom the sunnis simply say it will be a descendant of muhammad but no particular identity but the shiaits after the battle of kharbalan six eighty and what is today arach followed a father son father son line of descent uh down imam after imam until it came to number twelve in the ninth century around the eight seventies or so and that was a little boy unfortunately he disappeared either hidden away by his family for fear

47:06of assassination or perhaps he fell down a well in a little town called jen kuran which is not far from the uh is uh the uh aranian um theological seminary city of kohm and in any case he disappeared there's never going to be a thirteenth imam what are we going to do so what the shiaits decided is that he's not really dead he's in what they call occultation meaning hiding the twelfth imam is in hiding he's the mahti and he's going to come back at the end of time to usher in the day of judgment uh and the end times but now here's the kicker uh these shiaits of the uh irgc that currently today akhmed vahedi uh commander of the irgc most of rizai we mentioned him before now at the uh secretary of the supreme national security council of aran other irgc figures they are all twelveers they actually believe this stuff god get our heads around this it doesn't make sense it's not going to but they believe it and the kicker part of all of this is that they think

48:12they can hasten the return of the twelfth imam their mahti figure to earth to usher in the end times day of judgment how by instigating arma get in on earth the apocalypse well how do you do that well you acquire a deliverable nuclear weapon and uh that is their eschatological belief yes it's wacko but that's what they believe and we have to understand what they believe sonzo right know they enemy know they self and they'll shall not fear the outcome of thousand battles uh well we may know ourselves fairly well i don't think that the top leadership in the united states right now knows much about well is not about but but but but you're talking about the twelvers no you talk a common sense why would anybody listen to common sense there i don't i don't think they have a good understanding of all of this but the point about it of you know president trump is geared in on ensuring that this aranian regime never acquires a deliverable nuclear weapon so to that extent

49:18he is he is zeroed in on on the key issue here and that is a nuclear weapons capability for these guys and so at the same time the um um clare as you you stated you know i mean you get a mayor who got elected yeah and and look for those who need to know again the twelve twelve or she is them um is uh you know the largest branch of shea islam but that said you know um the twelvers distinguished from ismaelis by their belief that uh muhammad status as a quote unquote the seal of the prophets okay uh in rejecting the possibility of um you know any of the abrogations of the shea laws and in considering both the uh exotic aspects of the karon which uh uh basically is what your

50:21current maran you know i'm excited i am this is the utter absurdity of soren mandani as mayor of new york city he is both an avowed communist he may not say so but he is everything he stands for the abolition of private property the uh confiscatory taxation for the redistribution of wealth the ownership of uh promines of production all that is straight out of the communist manifesto he's a communist but at the same time a twelver he's the personification of the red green axis but here mayor of new elected mayor of new york city the city along with of course the pentagon and the plane that went down in in pennsylvania but that got hit by an arinian jihad operation uh on september 11th uh in in uh 2001 the commemoration were coming up on that very soon absurdity uh

51:21i suspect that most of those who vote probably all who voted for soren mandani from mayor have no clue of anything we spoke of because nobody does any deep dives i mean this is what he said just google circuit you know we're all the admins of a i just go listen to what he says and read about what the you know what the twelters are and then ask him as a reporter here's what the twelters believe you stated today that you are a twelver does this mean that you believe these things yes or no if not are you what are you saying it for i mean it boggles my mind how we don't do simplest deep dives on these issues and we're doing the service to the americans have murdered on our soils as you know um um uh uh Claire i i established uh uh you know the nirre center strategic engagement on at 9-11 um and i remember i had given the documentation to the lawyer and uh it was around ten o'clock in the morning on 9-11 i'm like hey have you filed the documents and then the

52:25young um um lady said well the lawyers on here he'll file them tomorrow go no you don't understand did you ask for the freaking to have uh downtown and filed it now i physically drove to the uh uh to the uh uh law office the main lawyer wasn't there his assistant was and i told the other lawyer i said you need to freaking go file it now the whole idea is because i want to make sure that the company is established on 9-11 not figuring you know 9-12 or so many a day now look it's more about what we did after 9-11 you know on uh you know on September 12th is what really uh signifies to me what america was all about based on our you know reaction unfortunately we never understood what it was about to this day we don't understand what it's about and of course the most some brotherhood which has of course Sunni uh all the albiet Sunni uh bid closely allied with uh the Iranian regime uh from for decades um surrounded uh president

53:29uh George W. Bush he had no chance to learn uh what what was really happening they didn't want to learn they they did not want to learn they did not want to you know they didn't want to learn they said what we call if he did not know they were safe but once you know then you have to answer they knew they knew to this extent they appointed a uh a a group of Muslim brotherhood leadership figures in the United States to be uh the advisory board to the u.s. government for what we call the great purge that is the purge of all language in official uh u.s. government documents reports and training at the service academies um at uh any kind of military training of you know command and staff colleges removed any language specific to identifying Islam jihad or sharia and that has not been corrected to this day it's a shame it is a reality unfortunately it is what it is

54:30and me be born in iran as an assertion christian and see what has happened in the region to include to the assertion christians in iraq after the invasion of iraq we are rewent from 2.5 million to less than a hundred thousand left um it's uh the root of kashanti was uh sacrifice and crucified on the his on behalf of uh expediencies for a bureaucracy to be able to self sustain itself and protect itself from my having to answer questions it is what it is but uh you know the biggest thing we could do on this uh upcoming non-element keep those americans ever murdered you know i in our prayers exactly but i i know we don't have any time left but at some point maybe before september 11 rolls around uh we could also maybe talk again about what happened in benghazi the night of september 11 12 in 2012 let's do that let's do that let's come back and

55:31relook two weeks from now and have that discussion if we should we should we need to uh good friend of mine who's with the shadow warriors served in benghazi so trust me and i ended up happy to go through a uh top secret investigation because of something i said on uh on 9.11 but uh hey i retain my job the one star had to retire two one stars left and the two star had to retire early but uh it is what it is you get to do what's right rather than do what's uh expedient okay clear god bless you much appreciated i'm gonna thank uh claire lopus uh joining us on our discussion today uh claire is a wonderful guest and a dear friend the director of us geo strategic security issues for the niree center for strategic engagement and also the final president lopus liberty lc i do want to thank all of our audiences for joining us on the mission denatio security over the tip of the spear and the epic battle to defend the united

56:35cessa america with liberty and justice for all i'm your host lieutenant krone sorghison gays your army retire c you the niree center for strategic engagement and we will talk to you next week god bless