The price of denial: What America failed to learn from 9/11

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1:01I mean, you host Lieutenant Colonel Sargis and Geary, you'll saw me retired and the CEO of the Near East Center for Strategic and Gacon and also a board member of the National Security Hour. And of course, coming back returning a dear colleague and a friend Claire M Lopez who was a founder and president of Lope as Liberty LLC with a mission to alert the Americans to the National Security Trets, both international and from the Islamic movements, Muslim Brotherhoods and their Marxist collaborators operating in this country. Claire from 2014 to 2020 served as a VP for research and analysis at the Center for Security Policy. She has been a senior fellow at the London Center for Policy Research and a member of the Board of Advisors for the Canadian McKinsey Institute. Claire is currently acting for us, at least on the Near East side as a director of US just strategic security issues for the NECSC.

2:04From 2013 to 2016, Claire served as a member of the Citizens Commission on MIGAZ again continues as a member of the Citizens Commission on National Security, formerly VP of the Intelligence Summit. She was a career operational officer at the Central Intelligence Agency, a professor at the Center for Counterterrorism Security Studies, executive director of the Iran Policy Committee from 2005 to 2006 and has served as a consultant instructor, intelligence analyst and researcher for the Radio Defense firms. She was named a 2011 Lincoln Fellow at the Claire Mountain Institute. Claire is great to have you here again. Hey, thanks, Argyst, very glad to be back with you. Claire, I do want to always now and then go into folks' background and of course, it's way more than what I just read here for our audiences. But I know that we're coming up on 9-11 and the radio networks and TV are going to be

3:11covering extensively what happened on 9-11. But I wanted to get ahead of it so people have some time to kind of digest what we talk about today and some of the key issues that they might not be aware of as we head towards the 9-11 anniversary and I wanted to bring you in here so we could really kind of focus on really the two major significant events that happened which was attacking the twin towers and also Benghazi itself. But you also learned a lot of lessons being a member of the commission that looked into the issues of 9-11 and I just wanted to initially go back, take your back to when it initially happened and your initial takes what happened then and what were we now? You know, 20 plus years later from half a century later I should say from what happened on 9-11. Yeah, so you know Sarge says you probably know and maybe some of your listeners also know

4:16too. I was an expert witness in a legal case that was called a Havish versus Bin Laden at all about 9-11. Havish was the name of one of what came to be a group of about seven widows, widows of pilots who died at 9-11 and others too. And after 9-11 these women came to a legal firm in Pennsylvania and asked that legal firm to take on the case of investigating what actually happened on 9-11 because they did not trust the United States government to get to the bottom of it. And so that case began shortly after 9-11. I think about 2002 but I did not join in the group until later on and maybe better so because in the beginning the group, this legal firm which actually grew to a consortium

5:23of I forget seven, eight or something law firms altogether, they began looking at Saddam Hussein and Iraq as potentially behind the attacks of 9-11. And obviously within at least a few years they realized that was completely off-tracks Saddam Hussein and Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11. And so at that point I don't know is about mid-2000s. They turned their attention to Iran. Now I was invited to join the team about 2009 towards the end and served with the team until 2011. Late December 2011 is when Judge George Daniels handling the case for the Southern District of New York, Federal District Court in Manhattan when he issued his ruling again then at the

6:28end of December 2011. And in that ruling he ruled from the bench actually that Iran and Hisbalah were co-responsible with Elklaida for the attacks of 9-11. Now obviously the Taliban and even Saudi Arabia played some role in all of this but the focus of our case have reached versus been laden at all towards the latter part of the case. The focus was on Iran and Hisbalah and their historical relationship, Jihad relationship with Elklaida. Yeah and for listeners if you want to just get you know as you're listening to the interview you on a Google search law dot just DIA dot com L A W dot J U S T I A dot com

7:28is going to have that specific case in there in the search box. As you stated it was the United States District Court, Southern District of New York and it was the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2011 and it has it here where George B. Daniels District Judge and in the first paragraph it says the plaintiffs and the multi-district litigation, seek monetary damages from the defendants who are liable for the physical destruction that the ninjuri suffered as a result of the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001 September 11 attacks on December 22nd, 2011. Default judgment was entered on behalf of the plaintiffs and have a lush action plaintiffs against the certain sovereign defendants including as the states the Islamic Republic of Iran, I told Ali Hussein Khamenei, Huzbullah and other Iranian individuals and entities.

8:28So you know I mean it's it amazes me I declared that a lot of people don't know even the simplest issues. Even the folks of my generation who witnessed night in the when I was in the service of course when it happened they never did follow up on the legal litigation to kind of follow up as to what happened was it do you think that we just we're so busy with the war and we were not paying attention at that time global war on terror or is it because it's the American public just doesn't really go deep diving into the issues that really are the drivers behind what the outcome would be for us and international and this would be in the courts and with legal action. Right well you know I co-authored one of the affidavits and there were many maybe a dozen or more affidavits all told in this case but I co-authored one of them with a dear colleague now passed on Bruce Teft and our affidavit was actually the history of the relationship the jihadi

9:38relationship among what would become al-Qaeda and Iran's regime and hisbalah and you know the the beginning of that relationship which our intelligence agencies apparently simply never picked up on now there are hints about that relationship in the 9-11 commission report but not very well you know laid out not explained well well our affidavit does explain that and what happened is that at the end of the war in Afghanistan that took up most of the 1980s the Soviet then Soviet Red Army was defeated and removed themselves left Afghanistan and the fighting forces that include jihadis who had come to to Afghanistan from all over the world began to trickle back home

10:47to wherever they had come from and among those were the Saudis who had been supplied and funded by Usama bin Laden who of course was not a fighter himself at all never engaged in combat but was a a funder he was a wealthy Saudi and he he funded various things for the the Mujahideen vehicles housing for them and route to and from Afghanistan that sort of thing well as the war ended towards the end of the 1980s 1989 the the far the forces that had come from Saudi Arabia and looked to Usama bin Laden as their benefactor I suppose this was not yet al-Qaeda they they had not coalesced into al-Qaeda yet these were just Saudi forces they wanted to go home and well a

11:54various stuit royal at that point in the king of Saudi Arabia said no way know how you're not coming back here and so they fetched up instead in cartoon in Sudan where the Muslim brotherhood president at the time and his Muslim brotherhood supporter Hassan Terabi the the president of course was at the time oh come on uh Usama no out of Sama Omar al-Bashir Omar al-Bashir and the two of them teamed up by share in his Muslim brotherhood buddy and welcomed essentially all of the jihadi forces in the world in certainly the region the world to come to cartoon for a grand I called it a grand jihad jamboree and so you had all of the forces the Saudis uh end of Sama bin Laden his deputy

13:02at the time I'm in al-Zawahdi Egyptian but also there came the PLO representatives spell state liberation organization you had the pflp you had top leadership of khizbalah and you had the entire top leadership of the Iranian regime at the time led by al-Yakbar Hashemi Raph Senjani president um and uh also coming with him was the head of the IRGC at the time musen Rizahi a name that will ring a bell now because he's back in power in Iran today we can talk about that um and the head of the intelligence uh service of Iran al-Yifah Lahian more that whole group the Iranian top leadership came to cartoon to meet with their Sunni counterparts of all these different terror organizations uh with some of them in laden uh and uh i'm in al-Zawahdi

14:03and their their entire team and that was the beginning of that alliance between Sunnis and Shiites that eventually in another 10 11 years would lead to 9-11 yeah it would and you know it's funny how you know the uh their world always with these extremists rewrites the history um because uh you know been lawden right after 9-11 the first statement he made was and i'm going to quote him what america's taste uh tasting now is something insignificant compared to what we have tasted for scores of years uh in his first act just of course after 9-11 and he says uh the Islamic world has been uh tasting the humiliation and the degradation for 80 years to sycepico agreement um um he he says uh was uh one of the reasons that he's uh pointing to and i don't understand what he's even talked about sycepico agreement actually gave power to their

15:07nations and created them it took power away from the Ottomans it had marginalized all the the minorities like the christian the serians who were butchered like dogs uh you know in war war one so you literally had countries given to their Arab tribesmen who did not ever control those areas in the long term except for under the uh you know uh sort of uh uh uh uh as they say in the mental least uh for the betterment of the caliphates uh who uh you know uh uh uh uh who always did nothing morning just uh shed blood in the region i i think a lot of people have asked him today who who calls the most uh bloodshed uh and and the world was in gingus con or others people say gingus con was really tamar lane who killed uh way more individuals than even gingus con did and he literally filed in europe and ajo uh and uh all over the mental least but uh it's uh

16:09unfortunate uh we are where we are and uh go ahead you know i never did answer the the rest of your question there and that was why didn't this story why didn't this ruling uh in 2011 get more attention and the reason is that that was during the obama administration and this entire case and its ruling conclusion were completely squashed because i think the the obama administration was already looking forward to what would become the rapprochement with iran and that would lead up eventually to the iran nuclear deal the jcpa but by 2011 late 2011 they were already headed in that direction it is and unfortunately uh that case actually collectively had awarded damages north of six trillion plus uh yes of course never never awarded the victims their families never got any never got a dollar but iran did get what it needed to probably more than six trillion dollars

17:09since saying is a common yeah but to this day i mean to this day this case uh is unknown i suspect even to the current trump administration i suspect it's not known um because it was squashed no definitely and we'll be back in the second segment to discuss a bit more as to why we are where we are today we'll be back for a discussion with claire lopes filling off since covid try the wellness company spiked detox trio packed with nato kinase bromelain and tumeric to help boost your immune system and fight off harmful spike proteins bounce back with energy and clarity go to twc dot health forward slash out loud and use promo code out loud for 20% off your first order oral hygiene hasn't changed in 50 years but our diet and the way we eat has creating an environment in your mouth for bacteria to wreck havoc on your teeth and gums for better oral health get spry dental defense and oral care line designed to combat acid creating bacteria the toothpaste mouth washments and gum all contains isle at all and natural ingredients shown to

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20:21rights inside your area denied to west and the voices of the cop tics or the cops uh... she has been a visiting researcher guess lecture on concertors of national defense and international relations at george town university or a little contributed to ranger media and subject related to china russia iran and the middle east clare i would like to if possible start with what happened recently and i do want to uh... reminder audience or focus is ninety-lemmon what happened then and what we are today and some of the things that you they may not be aware of uh... i know that uh... the cia chief uh... was uh... meaning uh... in russia um what do you think is uh... uh... behind it uh... if there's anything you could shed a light on with the most recent discussions i've taken place are we are even anywhere close to uh... addressing the issues with the not just the iran war but uh...

21:22with the ukraine war and what might be happening with the focus of us to what our near pier is trying to do which in this case the chinese comments party leadership uh... has stated on this g that the chinese military needs to be ready to at least take action against uh... tywan by 2030 uh... so where do you think we are today and uh... if you can fill us in a little bit uh... as to what might be behind the discussions with russia yeah well let me go back first and finish the uh... the lead up to nine eleven the date by the way nine eleven september eleven deliberately chosen for those who know uh... islamic history because that was the date uh... in sixteen eighty three the year sixteen eighty three when the ottoman turks had besieged vienna and to their rescue rode young soby eski the king of the polish people uh... and uh... liberated liberated vienna from the ottoman turks on

22:26september eleven in a huge battle uh... in sixteen eighty three well uh... on up through the nineteen ninety is okay coming back to nine eleven uh... we saw the fruit of that relationship formed in cartoon between the sonnis and the sheites in nineteen ninety um... six no nineteen ninety three tell me if i got the dates right in any case co bar towers yeah yeah by his bala but here's here's what i needed to explain that there in cartoon ross and johnny the president of a rand at the time uh... wanted the uh... iran it just just to clarify so our listens on gank of use it was uh... it was a nineteen ninety six okay host right the first yeah yeah go ahead nineteen ninety six co bar towers but back it up um the uh... the the way this came together is that uh... at those meetings

23:27uh... in cartoon hosted by president uh... bush bashir umar al-bashir um the uh... uh... oh so i've been lot in uh... was president as we said and uh... the the iranian president uh... ross and johnny also was there and been lot in uh... asked ross and johnny uh... can your his bala boys teach my guys how to do big building bombing suicide bombings like his bala had done on behalf of a rand at our marine corbarricks the embassy also the french got hit in uh... bear root in nineteen eighty and at that point uh... ross and johnny calls over e-mod magna the terror chiefed in of his bala and says you train those guys you his bala terror chiefed in e-mod magna train the what would be calm soon the al-qaeda guys how to do big building truck suicide bombings that's where co bar

24:27towers came from in nineteen ninety six nineteen ninety eight you've got the east africa embassy bombings in aerobie and dara salam same thing al-qaeda did it but his bala trained them come on up to october of the year two thousand and you had the u.s.s. coal in harbour in Yemen hit not by a truck of course but by a uh... explosive laden boat um... casualties almost sank the ship but they saved and then eventually finally uh... nine eleven itself which was coordinated and organized by a rand e-mod magna the terror chiefed in of his bala personally in late two thousand early two thousand and one went to Saudi Arabia obviously with their acquiescence to recruit personally the Saudi hijackers e-mod magna his bala did that so that that brings us up you know to to what nine eleven uh... actually was well to the current day um... you know we're still looking at an Iranian regime under um... the uh...

25:33the regime that uh... took power with the uh... revolution of nineteen seventy nine under uh... the itola ruhala homani and uh... his successor of course um... the now also dearly not so dearly departed uh... supreme leader uh... al-i homani with his son uh... mojtaba named as his supreme leader successor but nobody's ever seen or heard a thing from him uh... since the opening night february twenty eight to march the first uh... of this year twenty twenty six of operation roaring lion by the Israelis and operation epic fury by the united states no one's ever seen mojtaba so whether is a library that we don't know but in charge of the regime in Iran is the ir gc islamic revolutionary guard corps uh... and uh... they are the ones that are running the current war um... not only against the united states in israel uh... big satan little satan as they would call them us uh... but also

26:39against their own people whom they have slaughtered by the tens of thousands um... so where we are right now uh... you know the uh... the reason actually in june of twenty twenty five for the united states then it was called operation midnight hammer and the israelis operation rising lion the opening of that salvo if you will against a ran was because they were on the verge of deliverable nuclear weapons not only did they have the stockpile of highly enriched uranium that we've heard about spoken publicly uh... steve witcoff in an interview on one of the uh... cable tv channels mentioned that um... but also they had the missiles the ballistic missiles with a range that even right now can reach not only all of our u.s. bases and facilities in the middle east israel obviously but also just about every capital of western europe i mean london paris rohm birline

27:41and more uh... and so you've got the highly enriched radium you've got the missiles and the the the information that is open source go to the i.e. a international atomic energy agency uh... go to david albright's group what we call the good isis isis uh... institute for the for science and international security and the reporting is there about the work that the reigning regime was doing at ballistic missile sites for example out in some non-proven said shock rude even akey uh... the work they were doing there in twenty twenty five with warheads i don't mean loaded up with nuclear fissile explosives on the inside no but they were working on the warheads and fitting them to the nose cones of their missiles that's why we had to go israel had to go in twenty five and then return even though the nuclear sites at nattons is fahan and fardo had been hit

28:42and lie today beneath a lot of rubble uh... they were trying to continue the program somehow some way excavate go back down underneath and go to a place that has not yet ever been inspected by the i.e. or hit and that's called uh... pickaxe mountain uh... kuhit glang in in farce as they as they call it pickaxe mountain a little bit south of uh... nattons uh... kind of the central part of a rand in the zagros mountain region so that is how we got to to where we are right now uh... in return for those strikes by the israelis in the united states uh... iran attempted to close off the international shipping lanes of the straight of four moves in and out of the perjion gulf uh... the united states countered with the blockade of our own stopping all traffic uh... going into or out of iranian ports but now especially now or mid twenty twenty six um... clearing all the

29:47minds that are and laid in the straight of four moves and and escorting other shipping from our gulf partners and allies like uh... kuhit bhajian the united air bemeritz uh... author even saudi arabia uh... to go in and out of the straight of four moves cleared the minds of the uh... in the channel and uh... escorting them sometimes by night in the darkness and they turn off their transponders so that they can uh... they can slip through undetected even though the iranians continue to try to lob missile attacks drone attacks at uh... at those ships and also at those perjion gulf neighbors yes we have bases there but at the neighbors themselves um... including uh... some of their sensitive uh... water decolonization plants for example um... and uh... that is where we are right now at the moment and uh... i know you want to get to the uh... the recent visit of united states uh... but but but but before we do that clear before we do that though the one thing i do

30:54want to clarify what it would all this information that we have okay um... i i get it it boggles my mind but maybe shouldn't you know i've been around long enough now to know that uh... stupidity is a gift from god uh... my grandmother you said was saying only a few uh... talented individuals possess it unfortunately they end up in your family they tried to make it a virtue by you wish you a little by and this uh... illiterate woman who uh... was born in the uh... mountains under her audit she had enough sense to understand what stupidity is okay yes uh... you know she had wasn't but this week you know the Canadian broadcasters tell the staff not to call the 911 terror attacks why do we call them necessarily we could skip terror attacks just call them what they were jihad attacks yeah well yeah and uh... but at the same time uh... it was just this week where we have the state department of rear that the port uh... portland antifa uh... was connected to hummus iranian rgc uh...

31:55and uh... sweeping uh... you know terror action as as they called it uh... were uh... second rubio stated that the four left terrorism posse profound threat to the united states and the broader west and then uh... just even going back under the uh... in uh... october of twenty three where the Biden administration uh... uh... you know suspended iranian uh... onboy robert malley uh... was uh... tally for helping to fund support and direct uh... iranian intelligence operations yeah and i just added the state department also the pentagon where uh... you know you had uh... you had uh... uh... iranian uh... uh... uh... serving as the uh... chief of uh... staff for the assistant secretary of defense for special operations so uh... i don't understand how you can have that much of a footprint and imprint and uh... in american politics when uh... you have a government that toppled the shaw which was an american ally

33:01to where you could have the rgc they replaced them and caused a debt of so many americans have such a footprint even uh... to where it can have influence well yeah you know i would say a couple of things one i think we have a long time since really lost our uh... our our our capability encounter intelligence uh... and we have also uh... been mistaken and greatly mistaken in foreign policy um... you know about who is this enemy we face that calls us the shaitan bazaar the big the big the great satan and israel the shaitan kujak the little satan who is this enemy who are twelveers the irgc are what are called twelveers that means shiait islamic followers of the twelve emam and we can talk about that and we can talk about how the red and the green cominess you mentioned antifa of the red and the green axis as

34:04we call it come together right now not because the radiologies are completely aligned they're not but rather because they share the same objective currently and that is the destruction of the united states of america this republic of ours and western civilization overall uh... that is the goal that they share um... and you know um... so we we we've got to face this double uh... threat of communism and uh... and islam and uh... i don't think we're well prepared for either one partly because we've lost track of our own history or world history too communist history is lehmic history uh... and as i said before we've lost uh... our edge uh... in uh... in uh... counterintelligence um... and uh... security awareness you know i i hear you from uh... professional standpoint but common sense should just tell you that this guy might want to kill you

35:06eventually when somebody cracks a gun points out your head it says i'm gonna kill you you might want to take him seriously so uh... it is what it is uh... it's unfortunate that we have actual individuals born in this country raised in this country that uh... have no concept of what's on the other side and allowed them to come into your family and uh... try to influence your even destroy your government from inside but you know that's why communist and uh... as almas uh... are able to work together so much because they didn't in your own to overthrow the show um... and uh... i tell people because i have the same kind of a concept right i'm mullah who wants to put money in his pocket from oil sales basically says well you know oil is uh... given by god so because it's given by god like rainwater is everybody should have a right to use it not just government and uh... uh... the state apparatus so uh... he tells his followers

36:07go and steal it because uh... you're not doing anything wrong uh... so just just like uh... as almas justifies it a communist justifies it too if i could real quick i'll finish up this i know we're at the end of the segment um... ran as a perfect example of this each side the red and the green thinks that they're going to be the victor uh... at the end and they're the ones who are going to come out the you know in triumph over over over all the rest and uh... uh... the other side um... however look what happened in a ran you had you had exactly the reds in the greens you had communist today party fettine uh... and obviously the islamic not islamist islamic uh... leadership uh... that uh... under comeni that took over uh... and what happened the moment that comeni took over he established the ir gc and they went into the streets and they slaughtered uh... the the ranks of those uh... who had fought with him comeni meaning today fettine in the communist and the own only

37:09the islamic uh... she i'd twelve or regime reserved remains to this day well let's hope to people who voted to marry in uh... new york uh... listen to you but uh... the personification will come back in the green in one single mayor welcome back and we'll talk about it the uh... third segment over a discussion with Claire Lopez on an emergency of nine eleven are you tired of struggling with low energy we get it that's why we created organic energy juice in just one minute you'll have clean natural energy all day and never struggle with low energy again and it tastes amazing and there's no toxic chemicals or stimulants that make you crash you shouldn't have to struggle with low energy and with organic energy juice you won't if you're struggling with low energy then buying organic energy juice is the right decision with our double your money back guarantee there is zero risk to try it go to chemical free body dot com forward slash out loud for an exclusive discount that's chemical free body dot com forward slash out loud welcome back to the final segment of

38:12our discussion with uh... Claire and Lopez uh... dear friend and uh... also uh... for us uh... director of the u.s uh... just strategic security issues for the nerea center for strategic engagement she is the founder president of low-presidential btlc when i mentioned to alert americans to the national security threats both international and from the zonic movement muslim brotherhood and their marxist collaborators in the country uh... i do want to remind our audiences that you can find out more about this show and get all the latest podcasts if you go to the menu navigation bar at america outlaw dot com on their or show or schedule and you will be in the note Claire um... i know we push it now a couple of segments down uh... you know but i do want to kind of cover this before we get into what is happening here with the red and the uh... and the green that does almost send and the comments working in our country uh... but uh... uh... anything on the uh... on the russia uh... uh... meaning that the place is it by uh... rca director john ratcliffe to maska was a very

39:17whirlwind trip actually he was only uh... in maska for a very few hours before he turned around and came back home again a lot of speculation running rampant all over social media as you can expect uh... and elsewhere uh... we still don't have an actual official statement from the u.s uh... government on uh... exactly what that trip was about but the speculation runs to uh... ratcliffe going to warn uh... off putin fladimir putin the the president the dictator of russia uh... warn him off of uh... attacks perhaps uh... thought uh... to be preparing against maybe the baltic states uh... estonia latvia latwania maybe other nato countries perhaps romania um... and uh... also uh... threats uh... very open threats now coming out of russia against uh... britain for example uh... specifically

40:20britain because they have uh... offered to provide uh... storm shadow uh... missiles uh... to ukraine for its own defense against uh... the russian empire is attempt to uh... to destroy it um... and so for all of these reasons and perhaps uh... some cyber threats as well against the united states and perhaps others this is all speculation we do not know but these are the thoughts that uh... are coming out in the media in different places as potentially the reason why uh... ratcliffe uh... went there two mosco um... for such a quick visit clear clear fact good i know that uh... as i stated before it in febru of twenty twelve year uh... named a member of the congressional task force on national home i security focusing on electromagnetic pulse threats and i know that uh... uh... this

41:20week uh... on the august twenty six of the executive order fourteen four twenty executive order fourteen four twenty uh... uh... stated that uh... declaring a national emergency to secure the united states baltic power system um... anything from your perspective yeah um... if i i just skim through that very quickly this this very afternoon and uh... it it it is focused uh... it seems to me in large measure on components within elements of our um... electric grid uh... that come from um... i'm not sure they specifically name but i think we can all understand probably china uh... china has uh... all kinds of components inside our our power grid our electric power grid especially well the the civilian grid which is uh... woefully unprotected um... but now we find out

42:21riddled with components uh... from from china um... and i think that was the major focus of that uh... emergency uh... national security emergency issued by the white house just yeah it says just you know it says uh... the term quote unquote covered foreign entity on quote it means a country or any person uh... owned by controlled by or subject to jurisdiction of this aggression of a government of foreign country uh... i mean i don't know why we don't just say who it is well i mean he's under international terror regulation it's no very publicly openly that that there are components uh... from china in for example are um... you know our high voltage uh... transmission towers but they have chinese components and if you can possibly imagine um... there may be from other places i mean russia it's it's it's very possible as well and certainly russia has been engaged

43:21in uh... a very hostile uh... plan program of of uh... what some people call hybrid warfare or hi or warfare in the gray zone you might have heard that term uh... but it includes cyber attacks across natal countries europe um... here in the united states we know that a rand uh... is being named uh... as the culprit behind uh... cyber attacks against some of our water systems another element of our critical infrastructure water systems so uh... what we're looking at really as an access of aggression as sometimes it's called and that would be russia iran china add to that uh... north korea those four anyway um... and uh... so this emergency declaration they'll coming right after uh... uh... director rat clifft returns from the trip to masco is notable and would seem to indicate uh... at least um... concern and maybe a warning given to

44:28vladimir puton um... whatever you're thinking about don't do it and china as well don't do it because those two china and russia are very closely aligned right now uh... well they are and unfortunately they have a lot of influence are internal uh... political domestic issues uh... where we have communist early-winning elections in united states in aslamas uh... you know in uh... support of those individuals um... i mean uh... uh... uh... you know i don't i don't know if people do the background research on any of these individuals to include just going to their social media and see what they write before they walk in and vote for these folks uh... i mean uh... zora mandani uh... mandani himself uh... you know tell us about his background what is the stuff maybe the people should be aware of to understand who these candidates are so zora mandani newly elected uh... as mayor of new york city took office in january of this year

45:31twenty twenty six uh... uh... himself uh... wrote on his own at that time twitter uh... account uh... social media account he said uh... love my ismaelis because he he his family they are uh... of the ismaelis sect of sheaight islam that originated obviously out of jebun uh... then the family moved over to uh... uh... to india and then from there migrated to yuganda and from there to the united states uh... but in any case he wrote love my ismaelis but but i'm an isna ashaida isna ashaida in arabic means twelve her so he is identifying himself in his own words this is november of twenty nineteen one was still called twitter uh... that he is a follower of the sheaight twelve imam now here's the thing about the twelve imam all of islam sunni and sheaight believe in a

46:33messianic figure they call the mahti uh... whom the sunnis uh... simply say uh... it will be a descendant of muhammad but no particular identity but the sheaights after the battle of carbulans six eighty and what is today arach followed a father son father son line of descent uh... down imam after imam until it came to number twelve in the ninth century around the eight seventies or so and that was a little boy unfortunately he disappeared either hidden away by his family for fear of assassination or perhaps he fell down a well in a little town called jen karen which is not far from the uh... is uh... the uh... the uh... rhanian um... theological seminary city of home uh... in any case he disappeared there's never going to be a thirteen th imam what are we going to do so what the sheaights decided is that he's not really dead he's in what they call occultation meaning hiding the twelve fimam is in hiding he's the mahti and he's going to come back at the end of time

47:37to usher in the david judgment uh... and the intimes but now here's the kicker uh... these sheaights of the irgc that currently today akhmed vahedi uh... commander of the irgc most of rizad we mentioned him before now at the uh... secretary of the supreme national security council of maran other irgc figures they are all twelveers they actually believe this stuff god get our heads around this it doesn't make sense it's not going to but they believe it and the kicker part of all of this is that they think they can hasten the return of the twelfth imam their mahti figure to earth to usher in the intimes david judgment how by instigating armageddon on earth the apocalypse well how do you do that well you acquire a deliverable nuclear weapon and uh... that is their eschatological belief yes it's wacko but that's what they believe and we have to understand what they believe

48:40sonzo right no they enemy know they self and those shall not fear the outcome of thousand battles uh... well we may know ourselves fairly well i don't think that the top leadership in the united states right now uh... knows much about well is not about the twelveers no you talk about the sense one way to nobody listen to common sense i don't think they have a good understanding of all of this but the point about it uh... you know president trump is geared in on ensuring that this aranian regime never acquires a deliverable nuclear weapon so to that extent uh... he is he is zeroed in on on the key uh... issue here and that is nuclear weapons capability for these guys um... yeah but at the same time the um... um... Claire as you you stated you know i mean you get a mayor who got elected yeah uh... and and look for those who need to know again the twelve twelveers she is it's um uh... it's uh you know the

49:45largest branch of she islam but that said you know um the twelveers uh... distinguished from ismaelis by their belief that uh... mohammed status as a quote unquote the seal of the profits okay uh... in rejecting the possibility of um you know any of the aggregations of the shea laws and in considering both uh uh... uh... the uh... exotic uh... aspects of the caran which uh... uh... basically is what your current maran uh... you're excited i am this is the other absurdity of soren mandani as mayor of new york city he is both in a vowed communist he may not say so but he is everything he stands for uh... the abolition of private property the confiscatory taxation for the redistribution of wealth the ownership of uh... promines of production all that is straight out of the communist manifesto he's a communist

50:48but at the same time at twelve or he's the personification of the red green access but here mayor of new elected mayor of new york city the city along with of course the pentagon and the plane that went down in in pennsylvania but that got hit by an erinian jihad operation uh... on september eleven uh... in in uh... two thousand one the commemoration were coming up on that very soon absurdity i suspect that most of those who vote probably all who voted for soren mandani from air have no clue of anything we spoke of because nobody does any deep times i mean this is what he said just google circuit you know we're all the advance of the i just go listen to what he says and read about what the you know what the twelters are and then ask him as a reporter here's what the twelters believe you stated today that you are a twelver does this mean that you believe these things yes or no if not are you what are you

51:52saying it for i mean it boggles my mind how we don't do simplest deep dives on these issues and uh... we're doing the service to the americans ever murdered on our soils as you know um... um clear i i established uh uh... you know the nirvana strategic engagement on at nine eleven and i remember i had given the documentation to the lawyer and uh... it was around ten o'clock in the morning on nine eleven i'm like hey have you filed the documents and then the uh young lady said well the lawyers on here he'll file them tomorrow go no you don't understand did you ask for the freaking to have uh downtown and filed it now i physically drove to the uh uh to the uh law office the main lawyer wasn't there his assistant was and i told the other lawyer i said you need to freaking go file it now the whole idea is because i want to make sure that the company is established on nine eleven not figuring you know nine twelve or so many a day now

52:54now look it's more about what we did after nine eleven you know on uh you know on september twelve is what really uh signifies to me what america was all about based on our you know reaction unfortunately we never understood what it was about to this day we don't understand what it's about and of course the most some brotherhood which has of course sonny uh all the albiet sonny uh bid closely allied with uh the aranian regime uh from for decades um surrounded uh president uh george w bush he had no chance to learn uh what what was really happening they didn't want to learn they they did not want to learn they did not want to you know they didn't want to learn they think that's what we call if he did not know they were safe but once you know then you have to answer they knew to this extent they appointed a uh a a group of muslim brotherhood leadership figures in the united states to be uh the advisory board to the u.s. government for what we call the great

53:59purge that is the purge of all language in official uh u.s. government documents reports and training at the service academies um at uh any kind of military training of you know command and staff colleges removed any language specific to identifying islam jihad or sharia and that has not been corrected to this day it's a shame it is a reality unfortunately it is what it is and me be born in iran as an assertion christian and see what has happened in the region to include to the assertion christians in iraq after the invasion of iraq we are rewent from 2.5 million to less than a hundred thousand left um it's uh the root of kashanti was uh sacrifice and crucified on behalf of uh expediencies for a bureaucracy to be able to self sustain itself and protect itself from my having to answer questions it is what it is but uh you know the biggest thing we could do

55:05on this uh upcoming non-element keep those americans ever murdered you know i and our prayers exactly but i i know we don't have any time left but at some point maybe before september 11 rolls around um we could also maybe talk again about what happened in benghazi the night of september 11 12 in 2012 let's do that let's do that let's come back and relook two weeks from now and have that discussion if we should we should we need to uh uh a good friend of mine who's with the shadow war served in benghazi so trust me and i ended up having to go through a uh top secret investigation because of something i said on uh on 9-11 but uh hey i retain my job the one star had to retire two one stars left and the two star had to retire early but uh it is what it is you get to do what's right rather than do what's uh expedient okay clear god bless you much appreciated i'm going to thank uh claire lopes uh for joining us on our discussion today uh claire is a wonderful

56:12uh guest and a dear friend the director of uh uh uh us uh geo strategic security issues for the niree center for strategic engagement and also the uh final president of lopes liberty i'll see i do want to thank all of our audiences for joining us on the mission the national security offer the tip of the spear and the epic battle to defending united ccson america with a little bit to you and justice for all i'm your host lieutenant cronald sorghissinger your sonry retiree cio the near e center for strategic engagement and we will talk to you next week god bless