The risks and best practices of deploying AI to an enterprise - Martin Roesch, Anurag Lal - ESW #366

We all might be a little worn out on this topic, but there's no escaping it. Executives want to adopt GenAI and it is being embedded into nearly every software product we use in both our professional and personal lives. In this interview, Anurag joins us to discuss how his company evaluated and ultimately integrated AI-based technologies into their products. We discuss:

• What to be aware of when deploying GenAI
• Key use cases and successes organizations are having with GenAI
• Some of the risks to be aware of
• How to prepare employees for GenAI
• Best practices to prepare for evolving threats

For decades, security teams have been focused on preventing and detecting threats, only to find themselves buried so deep in alerts, they can't detect anything at all! We clearly need a different approach, which will be the topic of our conversation today with Marty. We'll be discussing a shift in philosophy and tactics. We'll discuss whether SecOps has a hoarding problem, and possible paths out of the current situation preventing today's teams from successfully detecting attacks. Finally, we'll discuss the impact AI has on all this (if any).

Segment Resources:

• Why It's Time to Evolve from Threat-centric to Compromise-centric Security
• Evolve from Threat-Centric to Compromise-Centric Security
• How to Close the Visibility Gaps Across Your Multi-Cloud Environment
• Defend HPC Data Centers with Frictionless Security & Observability

We've made a slight tweak to the news format, only focusing on the most interesting funding and acquisition stories. As always, you can go check out Mike Privette's Return on Security newsletter for the full list of funded and acquired companies every week.

This week, we discuss two $100M+ rounds, from Huntress and Semperis. We also discuss NetSPI's acquisition of Hubble, and the future of the CAASM market.

We focus on the important of detection engineering, echoing some of Martin Roesch's thoughts from our interview with him just before the news. One story is from the excellent DFIR report, a website and newsletter you should absolutely be subscribed to if detection engineering is important to you. The other story is from Thinkst, and showcases their ability to create file share honeypots with file listings that can now be tailored to specific industries.

We discuss the results of some polls that RSnake ran on Twitter, to get feedback from folks on what they think about these models where CISOs are reportedly getting kickbacks for buying products from companies they advise.

We also discuss the latest whistleblower insights about Microsoft and the state of security there, and the recent Polyfill.io incident that targeted over 100k websites with malware.

Finally, we spend the rest of the news segment discussing the current state of Generative AI, from our own perspectives, but also through the lens of Bruce Schneier's latest blog post, a year old post from Marc Andreesen, and a rage-fueled rant from an angry Aussie.

Don't miss the squirrel story - we highly recommend sending it to all your PhD friends (or not, if they're easily insulted and/or likely to hold a grudge).

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Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-366