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What's up, everyone?

Welcome in to the DFR Rockies podcast.

We're doing things remote today because we've got

March Madness happening downstairs in our studios right now.

So watch a long stream is taking place.

So we are taking things on the road for at least today.

We'll be back in studio again tomorrow.

Christian Sias, big draft spends hanging out with you.

We got a lot to talk about today.

Ezekiel Tovar World Baseball Classic Champion.

Get to celebrate that.

Talk about a little WBC action.

We got to hear from Antonio Sonsatela too.

It's true.

You've texted me about that every single time.

And it's not good.

Now it's a bit.

I know.

I know.

It's not that I'm intentionally leaving Sonsat out.

He just didn't do anything like he was not really a part of it.

I get that he pitched one inning or whatever.

And he has like a 24 ERA or whatever it was.

I am.

I did put a tweet out about him.

I am glad Sonsat got the win.

And I know it's easy for us Rocky Spans to hate on Antonio Sonsatela

because he's had a fall from grace, right?

He's not what the player that he used to be.

But it's not like he's going out there and trying to suck.

And stuff just isn't what it used to be.

I wish him the best.

I just wish that he wasn't currently on the Rockies.

The contract never helps, right?

Whenever a player gets a bad contract and then, you know,

you're stuck with them after they stop being good.

That never helps.

But I don't like wish ill will on Antonio Sonsatela.

I just forgot that he existed completely with the event as well.

Oh, man.

Well, he, he made Tatis's tournament a little more fun for those fans.

He did.

He did.

And, and to be honest, he made me think a little bit because I,

again, I was watching a pitch that one inning and he looked all the way,

he looked really good all the way up until that.

That too straight, you know, curveball that he left chest high.

But anyways, we're not here to talk about Sonsatela.

We've got a lot to talk about.

Tov are obviously.

We saw an article, Buster only just put out an article with an interview

with Paul D. Podesta, so we can kind of talk about that as the show gets going.

Obviously, we'll continue our conversations on, you know,

the Rockies opening day roster because we're just literally a week away from opening day

technically, although the Rockies opening day is a Friday, so a week from tomorrow.

Baseball brackets, since it is the first official day of March band.

This will be, we'll be talking about that as well.

If you haven't seen that on Twitter, go check that out.

But Ezekiel Tovar, getting a WBC championship.

Now, E-line, I saw you just tweeted, I don't know if you're watching the show right now.

I saw you just tweeted in these days that Ken Rosenthal said something about Tovar's value

after the WBC tournament.

I haven't seen what he said.

So if you are watching this and you have information on that,

drop it in the Toyota chat.

Let us know what you're saying.

But either way, Ezekiel Tovar had a hell of a tournament.

I know from a biased perspective,

you and I both wanted him to win WBC championship, or WBC MVP.

And it didn't happen.

It went to my Kell Garcia, which I actually thought if we're being honest,

was kind of a snub to will you to bra you, who I think had the most impactful,

at least latter half of the tournament.

But still, man, awesome to see Tovar get the WBC championship,

bring those good vibes right back to Denver.

Yeah, I think the unfortunate part for Tovar is,

if the game against Japan was the final,

and he basically did the exact same thing, right?

If Team Venezuela beats the USA in the quarter finals with semi-finals,

and then he does what he did against Japan in the final game,

I bet you he wins MVP.

But he still had the highest OPS of any player in the WBC in general.

So shout out to Tovarie for that.

And yeah, his game against the United States,

while he did have two hits,

it was, if you want to look at it on a super granular level,

it was very rockies of him, like two meaningless hits,

two meaningless tingles that didn't turn into anything.

And not that it was his fall, he didn't get a chance to drive any runs,

didn't have any at bats with runners in scoring position.

He was mostly the guy that was hitting with nobody on base or a couple outs.

So he did have a few impactful hits or could have been impactful hits,

but then they ended up amounting to not much.

And like baseball has moved to now just in a general sense,

the guys that hit homers make the big splashes.

Yeah, still good to see him out there balling out.

I do think, and again, I don't know what Eli was talking about when he tweeted at me,

but I do think it speaks volumes to what Tovarie's capable of.

I think it reminds us.

We know he was battling injuries last year.

And you and I both put him on our list of guys that need to have a big season this year.

I think I think when we did a ranking the other day of whose most importance,

who's the most important piece of this rebuild?

If I remember correctly, didn't you have him at number one for the most important piece of the rebuild?

I did because much like he showed for team Venezuela and the WBC,

having a short stop that probably, you know, he was hitting fifth in the final hit,

probably hit somewhere around the two spot for the Rockies this season.

If he continues to cook like he did in the WBC, having a short stop.

That's a gold level, gold, gold glove level player that hits.

280 to 90 to ton of doubles.

Not a big power guy, but that is a key foundational piece to a rebuild and a team that's trying to be good.

I mean, look at the Bobby wits and you know,

you can go back obviously, Derek Gider, guys like that.

Like short stop is one of those positions where if you have a premier player,

you don't, you have one of your key blocks in your building a team from scratch essentially.

Or you have the pieces, you just need to put them together and make a winner.

And tovar is that guy or can be that guy for the Rockies.

So he's extremely important to their rebuild and what he means for the future of the Rockies

because as we heard a million times in the WBC, he's only 24 years old.

And he's just, he's just so young still feels, feels old because he made his debut at the Rockies so early in his life and in his career.

But he's a huge part to the Rockies rebuild and a guy that, you know,

I don't think we've talked about, you know, you want to trade Brent and Doyle for anything that we can get.

I know, I know how you feel about BD and not saying anything against you.

I know you like the guy, but I don't think Tovar is, he shouldn't be considered as a trade piece from the Rockies end.

Now, if somebody comes to you and there was a lot of general managers in front offices watching the WBC obviously.

If there's a lot of teams that looked at that and are like, oh man, we're a short stop away from being a real contender.

And they come to you with a disgusting offer of first round picks and a ton of prospects.

Maybe you consider it, but you don't call any team saying, is he feel Tovar is available?

Somebody's got to make you an offer you can refuse.

Yeah. See, here's the thing about Tovar compared to Doyle.

Tovar is the anchor right now of the infield, an infield that is increasingly younger and younger by the day.

I feel, you know, you've got probably TJ Runfield going to be starting at first base.

Maybe Condon at some point, but at least to start probably TJ Runfield, you've got maybe Willie Castro.

Castro might be in there, you know, but you've got, you know, probably a little bit more of a veteran presence at second base.

Still not as good as Tovar, but then your third baseman's probably Kyle Caros.

You Ryan Riders and that makes as well.

So you've got a really young infield outfield wise with Doyle.

You sign Jake McCarthy to be that basically that Doyle replacement if you end up trading Doyle.

You also have Mickey Moniac out there who is kind of a veteran as well.

So you have options in the outfield to pair with your young guys.

I think with the infield, you don't feel as confident about just a Willie Castro veteran infield.

You know, like I think I think the Rockies need a little bit more than that.

Tovar provides that stability.

So I agree with you and I don't want to talk too much about it because I think we've gone and circles on this before.

But are we giving our takes on this before about why the Rockies shouldn't trade Tovar.

But he's one of my untouchables absolutely this year.

I wanted to wrap up our WBC conversation.

Did you see Rob Manfred went out yesterday and kind of said what we were saying last show about the possibility that in the future,

Major League Baseball is going to do it in season tournament because of the success that the World Baseball Classic has had.

I did see that and it's it's just parling that success into more eyeballs and more things for you know,

we talked about it a little bit with the WBC obviously baseball.

This is a not a new thing by any means, but they're trying to figure out the best time to do it.

And of course doing it in early March or mid March when the players are not considered on teams yet, you know,

they're not playing their 162 game schedule.

So you're not taking those guys away.

There's obviously a lot of decisions made by managers that then told their country's managers like, hey, this guy can't pitch today or this guy only needs this many pitches.

That takes away from it a little bit, but we've seen it with the four nations.

We saw it with the Olympics in basketball and then then transitioning literally the All-Star game from, you know,

West versus East to World versus USA.

Now basketball obviously is a very different sport and the All-Star game is awesome and the MLB does a good job of that.

But the success of the WBC should push the MLB and the commissioner to find more fun things like this to break up the very long sometimes boring season,

even for the most diehard baseball fans and get some international competition where you can truly tell how much it mattered to a lot of the countries.

Obviously USA included, but USA might be, you know, 10th, 11th on the list of importance to their country and importance of watching baseball to their,

the entire country of the United States versus like a Venezuela or Dominican Republic and how many people showed out and watched for their team.

So take the success you've earned from the WBC and let's create something else that's fun and cool and exciting.

I also think this, I mean, I know we've been in the age of technology for a long time, but this felt like the first WBC where social media was, you know,

was really at its peak with TikTok, Instagram, Twitter, all the different options you have on how to consume content.

And there are so many different content creators ourselves included, although we weren't really WBC content creators.

You know, people whose job is to build content around baseball specifically.

And I think I saw a lot more eyeballs, not just statistically, obviously we saw the metrics coming out about how many more people were watching the WBC this year compared to other years,

but I feel like the discourse, I mean, like it was, it's taken over the sports world for the last two weeks, you know, the USA controversies, the Cal Raleigh stuff,

Mark DeRose's stuff, you know, all the crazy atmospheres in Japan and the Dominican Republic or Puerto Rico and, you know, like it's completely shifted.

And I've seen a lot of people, I think you were even saying yourself is included in this as someone who like didn't really pay that much attention to the WBC before.

And then like tuned in this year partially because, you know, because of Tovar because of some of the Rockies and you're like, holy shit, like this is electric stuff.

You know, my wife is the same thing. You know, I mean, she loved this tournament and she's not a huge baseball fan.

So I think we saw the tournament grow immensely this year in an international stage.

And I think, Major League Baseball recognized that. I think the fans recognized that.

And I think the players recognized that because there were still players that could have played.

I'm not talking insurance wise, but that could have played, especially on team USA, that said, yeah, I just, I need to focus on different things.

Like to reach school, another example, you know, but, but guys who just said, you know, I got to focus on the big league season.

And I think looking back, you know, players are probably watching that and saying, maybe, maybe next time it comes around, I should, right?

I think, and I think Major League Baseball has the incentive also to say, yeah, like Scott said in the chat, you need more than three innings out of your pitchers, right?

You need more than 60 pitches, right? We got to, we got to find a way for this to be an even bigger opportunity to showcase what an incredible sport this is.

And I think you already saw that at this level, but you got to find ways to work around the insurance stuff so that, you know, your team Puerto Rico's can actually have a full squad.

You got to find ways to get all the best players. Like there, I think it's close, but I think Major League Baseball is realizing, hey, we can make a lot of money.

We can grow the sport with the WBC, but we got to fix some things because it's not quite there yet.

Yeah, exactly. They have a great product. They had, they had participation from Team USA, which is obviously huge for, it wasn't huge for us personally and Rocky's nation really.

I mean, some time it depends upon where you are in the Rockies fandom versus just MLB and baseball fandom and, and your home rhythm to Team USA, if you will.

But it's like the, it was like the Olympics for me a little bit rock Nelson being an avalanche player and also being on Team USA had me a little bit more hyped up for Team USA and, and my country that I grew up in with born in.

But seeing three of your athletes on Team Canada, much like the Rockies had with team Venezuela, where there was tovar and sense of tell, even though he didn't, you know, really wasn't a factor.

It made it, it made the Rockies fandom in me have a little bit more connection to the WBC in general, and not just Team Venezuela, but Michael Oronson killing it for Team Italy, which my bet that went to die. I'm so sad I didn't hedge that. I should have hedged that rookie mistake on my part.

Even Lorenzen and then seeing Bernardino pitch and Vodnic pitch, it was just, it was fun to get that exposure for some of the Rockies that every game, you know, there's still that national.

Not hate, but just forget for get ability, the Rockies have a lot of forget ability.

And so it's nice to hear some of those guys being talked about like on the broadcast. So this guy will be a Colorado Rocky or seeing tovar that's been a rocky for a long time, kill it. And they're like, that's is, you know, the national tweets and everything going out is tovar the best player in baseball, like that was cool to see as a Rockies fan.

This is coming out party, right? Yeah. And I will say I saw someone, some statistician on Twitter posted a graphic where they basically ranked via all these different metrics, the importance.

Each majorly baseball team played when it comes to their players in majorly baseball. And I thought, hey, Rockies have been crushing it like they've got to be high up there.

They weren't at the bottom, but Rockies were I think 17th out of 30 of like their players important. So it wasn't bad. But you have to remember like the Red Sox, right?

The Red Sox, every single one of their dudes was ballin out. Will your bra, you Roman Anthony, Geron Durand, you know, I mean like they like there were other teams ahead of the Rockies. But still good tournament from the Rockies. So good stuff, good WBC action.

I'm going to be bummed that we have to wait four years till the next one. It's, it's one of my favorite tournaments of all time. So always good to see, good to see a Rocky win in that one. But we got to pause for our first break after the break.

That article from Buster Olme, he spoke with Paul D. Podesta. Paul D. Podesta talked about some of the things he wants to shift in Colorado, not just to a winning and losing standpoint, but some of the mentalities that he wants to shift.

And I thought there was some very interesting points that he made that we need to talk about coming up after this break.

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Spencer, you actually sent this to me, but I've seen it.

I think it popped up yesterday. Buster only spoke with Paulie Podesta. Paulie Podesta talked about how he wants to change the narrative here in Colorado.

The most interesting part of that article was him talking about taking playing a course field and instead of looking at it as a disadvantage, taking that and looking at it as an advantage now that might seem like a really simple thing.

I've never heard the Monferts specifically speak or specifically Dick Monfert speak about Colorado and speak about playing at elevation.

Every single person, including, you know, starting from the top down over the last 10 plus years has talked about playing a course field as this huge crutch as this huge, you know, disadvantage where the Rockies are no one understands what we have to go through.

We're playing at elevation, you know, it's, it's just this big negative.

And Paulie Podesta said, look, right, we get it. It's a challenge, but it's our challenge.

And we, we need to claim home field advantage. We need to claim course field and instead of looking at it like it's a disadvantage, look at it like it's an advantage. We know how to play there. We know how to win there.

And yes, we play 50% of our home games at Cours Field, but we're also playing another team who's at Cours Field too, right? You know, I mean, it's not like we're playing someone else who's playing in their own home stadium.

We're playing teams at Cours Field. It should be an advantage. So I wanted to get your thoughts on that Spencer. Do you agree? Do you think it truly the Rockies can truly turn Cours Field into an advantage or will it always be a disadvantage playing at elevation?

No, it's, it will be, it should be an advantage and always has been up until the past three years. You know, I know the Rockies have had a less than stellar history, right?

The Rockies have had a lot of similar games. Also, I think it's because we were under a great pressure and it was one World Series, never won the Division in 34 years now, 33 years of playing baseball. So it's not like they're the Yankees or the Red Socks with this crazy history, but even in the 2017, 2018 years, and a couple years after that when the Rockies made the playoffs and they were a decent ball club and a team that was competing for a playoff spot, not necessarily a World Series with some of those teams, but they were always, always, always good at Cours Field.

where it's kind of been shocking to me and taking me, even these last three years of

100 plus losses, it's still not set in with me that, and I'm the homer, I'm an optimism,

I wear my purple glasses to every game, I go to Cours Field and I'm like, the Rocky

should win.

Doesn't matter how bad they are, it doesn't matter if they're a 43 and 119 team, they

should win because they're at Cours Field.

And I think where the disconnect has come and the biggest call out is the Rocky's pitching

staff, right?

The Rocky's had a 6 plus, 6.6 plus ERA last year in general, and then at Cours Field,

it wasn't that great.

And I did hear a stat Victor Vodnic last year had the lowest ERA of any relieving pitcher

of all time at Cours Field for an entire season.

So quick, this is fun, no for him.

Victor Vodnic?

Yeah, at Cours Field.

No, Victor Vodnic.

Really?

His ERA at Cours Field was like 1.89, they mentioned that either on, I think they mentioned

that on the broadcast of one of the spring training games when he was pitching.

So yet to fact, check that.

But so pitching at Cours Field is tough, right?

But the Rocky's have always had a lineup that you look at and you're like, good God, how

do we get through this?

And that's where the disconnect has been the past couple of years.

The pitching has been worse, but the lineup has given you no hope that other than a few

games here and there because baseball such a long season, it used to be like the game

we went to, the most fun game of the year against the pirates that I still watch on YouTube

like once a week when they came back from down nine, nothing in the first inning.

Now that's obviously a tall task that's not going to happen all the time, but that used

to be the feeling of the Rockies, the past decade is, oh my God, we're down six nothing,

but Drew Goodman still talks about he's like, here come the Rockies because they've done

it so many times.

They've come back from such big deficits at Cours Field because you feel like you're never

out of a game.

You know, a lot of balls drop in that shouldn't drop in or don't in other stadiums and

then it's, you know, hitting home runs is with the light air and the ball flying and

especially on the hot nights in the summer, you can hit a lot of home runs at Cours Field

and make a six run deficit disappear pretty quickly.

But the lineup the past four or five years has been less than stellar and guys are striking

out a ton, which obviously, you know, if you know baseball at all, strikeouts are the worst

thing you can possibly do, but it gets magnified at Cours Field because how many times have

we seen what feels like our pitchers just get squeezed by balls being, you know, jam,

you jam the shit out of somebody and they fight it off and it goes over the second basins

head and drops in the massive outfield of the Cours Field.

The Rockies need to get more to contact and get these hitters that aren't striking out

as much as an entire team.

They just need to put the ball in play, especially at Cours Field and good things will happen

with you.

I think it's a combination of playing at Cours Field and using that to your advantage,

but also some of the little things you need to do really well to win at Cours Field have

just been absent from the Rockies, right?

One of them, too, is defense.

The defense, as we know, theoretically, you've got a gold glove level center fielder.

You've got a gold glove or at short to your prime defensive positions.

You've had Ryan McMahon who's been a gold glove finalist at third base for the past couple

of years.

He's gone now.

Gold Glovers and good outfielders everywhere.

You've played good defense at Cours Field, which helps you win ball games there, too.

The lack of defense, the lack of power in the lineup and contact and strikeouts, and

the lack of pitching has all attributed to the Rockies just not being as good at Cours Field.

Really, the pitching is what shines because the number is so big in the ERA.

You can't win without pitching, but I think I even heard this on a broadcast for the Rockies

the other day.

I was like, the Rockies don't need to be in the top 10 in ERA to win baseball games and

be a playoff team.

He's like, if they're a middling pitching team, if they're in 15 to 20 in ERA but have

a good lineup, like they're hoping to try to build, they can be a winning ball club.

They don't need to shut everybody out like at Petco Park or whatever the Giants field

is called now.

18 teams, what I'm going to always call it, but those teams, they pitch well and they

win games three to two.

The Rockies should win a lot of games at Cours Field, seven to six or eight to five.

That's the scores you need to win with at Cours Field.

You're going to have random low scoring games here and there, but they need to get the

bats going.

They need to strike out less and they need to play better defense.

That's the formula for winning at 20th and Blake.

Yeah, it's the mindset you have to have, absolutely.

But I actually, if you look at the numbers, if you look at the stats, technically Cours Field

isn't an advantage, no matter how you look at it, even if you can be a good team, I've

always said, if you build a really good team, if you put the Los Angeles Dodgers playing

at Cours Field, they're still going to win ball games, whether they play at Cours Field

or not.

I think sometimes people over-analyze playing an elevation and it's worth paying attention

to, but I think people over-analyze it.

If you just build a good baseball team, they will win.

With that being said, I saw this actually on Twitter and this kind of got me going down

the rabbit hole, but Cours Merchant on Twitter, good follow if you're a Rockies fan.

He said, are they put together a, basically, like a graphic kind of adjusting for the

park factor at Cours Field for the entire franchise history?

And the Rockies have only had, in above average offense, one time in franchise history when

you adjust for Cours Field.

So there is something to be said about it truly being a disadvantage, but you're not moving

anytime soon.

And none of us want to lose, although everyone, you know, you always hear the, oh, sell the

team crowd out there, whatever.

We don't want the Rockies to ever leave Colorado.

We love having baseball here.

So the reality is you've got to find ways to win with the situation that you have.

And the only way to do that is to have the mindset that you can turn it into as much

of an advantage as you possibly can, control what you can control.

So while I don't think it will ever be truly an advantage, it can be a mindset shift

for the Rockies.

And I'm glad Paul talked about it.

I'm glad he's, he's going out and saying that.

I mean, like I said, it just feels like the vibe hasn't been there for a long time.

And now he's finally shifting and saying, hey, you know, it's not going to be perfect.

And I saw Felix in the chat say, you know, Deepa Desta needs to hire a scientist at this

point, right?

It does feel really complicated.

But I think, again, if you simplify it as much as you can, you go put a put together a

winning ball club, no matter what stadium they're playing in, if that roster is legitimate

and can win ball games, they're going to win ball games.

And that's, that's the reality, whether you're playing at elevation or not.

Yeah.

Well, and one of the other interesting quotes from that article, I believe it was Kyle

Freeland that just pushes into our point a little bit more is when other teams, especially

non-NL West teams, play one series a season at Coors Field, right?

Or if it's an AL team now, it's every other year, though, there are pictures on that other

squad that no matter how bad the Rockies are, they don't want to be in line to pitch at

Coors Field.

Use that.

If somebody is just like having a great home field advantage in hockey or basketball or

football, you know, with the Broncos, the sea hawks have kind of coined the 12th manly.

It's not fun to go there and play.

And that's the, the Rockies have to use that to their advantage that it's, I mean, it

may be fun for the, the starting pitchers, but it's not, I mean, the, the offense and

the lineup, but it's not fun for a starting pitcher to come to Coors Field and try to

have success.

So lean into that and make it not fun for them.

Don't strike out all the time and just say, oh, you know, Coors Field's fine.

I, I struck out 10 Rockies today and allowed one run in six endings.

That's, yeah.

That's what they need to get away from these, these guys don't like to play here and use

that.

Just lean into it and use it.

Yeah.

Rolling in the chat says, Rockies continue to have a bottom five farm system.

You're never going to win when you don't have talent development in the farm.

Absolutely.

100%.

And I think that's why the Rockies organization Walker Bondford company went out and hired,

not just Paul Deepa Desta, but, you know, Tommy Tainus and Ian, Ian Levin.

Levin?

There you go.

Thank you.

Those who have, and guys who have a proven track record of building good farm systems, right?

Both the guys coming from the Mets.

I think it was Levin and, and Tommy both have proven track records of making the Mets.

One of the best farm systems in all the baseball.

I mean, look at Nolan McLean, who started the championship game for Team USA, granted

he didn't get the win.

But like, I look at his talent and I'm like, holy crap, man, you know, I mean, he's,

in line to win rookie of the year, this year.

And that's the, they, they were the ones who drafted and developed him.

So the Rockies brought in new guys in the front office to, to hopefully help with those

types of things.

But that's a huge part of it, right?

And I, but I think it does start top down, right?

You got to have that mentality at the top and work your way down.

Luke, I see in the chat, you said, Rumpfield only has one, one strike out all spring.

Yep.

We'll get to that here in a second.

I do want to address this real fast, DMK, DM2K runner in the chat says,

rocks fan here, first watch, and I heard you all say it's okay to trade.

Doyle, he's a pillar of the team.

You all should be fighting for us to keep him.

First of all, welcome to the show.

I see we got some new people here in the show watching.

So welcome.

We're going to be living through this whole season.

We're going to be loving it every step of the way.

I, here's my thing on Doyle, just real fast.

I don't want the Rockies to trade Brent and Doyle from a, from a fan perspective.

I agree.

I do think he can be a pillar, pillar of this team.

But if you look at his age and where he's at and where the Rockies are at,

currently pretty much restarting their rebuild right now,

because they have a bottom farm system in all of Major League Baseball

and they just came off 119 losses.

So you're pretty much restarting this rebuild this year.

It's going to be a few years before your competitive again.

I think Doyle might not be in his prime anymore.

By the time the Rockies are a playoff oriented team.

So in, in an effort to kickstart the rebuild,

he's one of your more valuable players.

Sometimes when you're in a rebuild, you've got to make uncomfortable decisions.

He's a guy that might have to be on the, the shopping block this year

if you don't have other good trade pieces.

So that's the context for that.

Welcome to the show.

If you disagree with me, that's totally fine.

Like I said, we love Doyle.

We've had him here on the show before.

But that might be the situation that the Rockies are in.

And, and yeah, and as Scotia says,

welcome to TNVR Rockies therapy.

It's not always, it's not always positive stuff.

We're, we're pretty, we're pretty much homers in, in most cases.

But it's usually fun and, fun and positive in, from November to March.

Yeah.

Late March and then it, and then it can turn.

And, and, and, and Rollie's in on a fun day.

And Rollie and the chat, it has it head on.

You got to let Doyle go get assets and develop talent.

That's the unfortunate situation.

I wish it wasn't true.

I wish the Rockies weren't currently sitting in their 5,000 three built,

but the reality is here we are.

It does feel like this one might have some more sticking power

because of the new front office.

So there's hope on the horizon,

but it's going to take a long time and you've got to kickstart that,

that rebuild with some talent in the farm system.

And the only way to get that, especially when you don't have a top draft pick anymore,

is by trading guys.

And Doyle is one of your most valuable assets that also isn't young enough

where you're, it's like Tovar where it's worth holding on to.

And because you could be in his prime if the, if and when the Rockies get back

to a playoff oriented team.

So that's my take on that.

Let's take the next break.

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without signing?

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Did the Rockies back their way into a Louise Land?

Louise Rays, this off season, I think they did.

Now, maybe it's not gonna be as flashy as Louise Rays.

Maybe we don't have the proven track record

of Louise Rays yet, but he's a hell of a lot cheaper

and his K-Rate so far is lower than Louise Rays.

TJ Rumpfield, the guy that the Rockies picked up for,

what was it, unheld CBG, right?

That was the trade from the New York Yankees.

He...

The Rockies Yankees pipeline is so strong.

Dude, it's alive and well.

I figured when Schmidt, when the GM Schmidt got let go or quit,

I figured that pipeline was gonna like dissipate a little bit

and nope, Paul Deepa Desta is keeping that alive and well.

So TJ Rumpfield though, I think it's had

one of the best spring trainings that we could see.

The fact that he only has one strikeout

through 49 at bats, if I remember correctly,

I think it was 49.

One strikeout through 49 at bats, that alone is enough.

Going from Michael Toli as what, 50% K-Rate felt like,

to that first place.

I think it's in major league history, wasn't it?

Yes, yes.

Sign me up, man.

So we talked about this a little bit on Monday.

I think TJ Rumpfield has first base locked out.

I know it's not been confirmed yet.

I know it's not beneficial, but I think we got...

I think given the game plan, given what we know

about Moneyball Deepa Desta,

I think TJ Rumpfield's going to be at least on the roster

if not starting opening day at first base.

Here's my thing.

I am very, very excited for TJ Rumpfield.

Drew up came through the Yankees Farms system.

Obviously, tough to get to the big club with that team.

Kind of has a, I love when we trade for the guys

that where in other sports, you know,

when you get traded to a team that just came off

one of the worst seasons in the history of the league,

you don't get that excited, right?

Generally speaking, I know we're not professional athletes

by any means, but getting traded to the Rockies

can't be all that fun for certain guys, right?

Or just any guy, especially pitchers,

but TJ Rumpfield's the first baseman.

For him, that's such an awesome opportunity.

Now, Charlie Condon's in a system

and has had a good spring as well.

But when you get traded there, you've been in Yankee

for a couple of years now and been in the farm system

and like, well, when the fuck am I going to get to play?

When am I going to get to play with the big club,

play for the Yankees, whatever?

You get traded to the Rockies and you say,

wow, I can go hit it course field.

He's already a gold glove level first baseman

or has been in the minor league.

So you expect that to continue into the majors.

And now he gets a shot.

And I'm extremely excited for this,

but I got to tell you dude, I'm a little scared

that something's going to happen, not injury related,

but this team's going to just not put him on the roster

and not start him day one.

And Troy Jostin, we talked about it a little bit.

We're going to do our crash out lineup.

Maybe next week, maybe next Tuesday,

before we get the actual opening day lineup,

but I just can see Troy Jostin starting it

first base opening day and I'm going to freak out.

So I'm trying not to get too excited for that reason.

Yeah, I'll queue up that freak out song for you

for that show specifically.

I saw a couple of people commenting about, you know,

why it should be Charlie Connan,

he's also had a good spring.

And I know you guys probably in the chat,

you know, you guys are good ball-nowers.

I think you guys probably understand,

but I'll say it anyways,

if someone's listening out there that feels that way.

Charlie Connan's, he's young.

He's what, 22, 24, something like that, he's young.

I know Rumfield is a couple of years older than him.

You just don't need to rush him.

You're not competing for a playoff spot right now.

So you have no need to get Charlie Connan up there really quick.

I get as a fan, we want that to happen.

But if you have a blessing of riches,

meaning that TJ Rumfield goes up,

because I think a lot of people's worries

that TJ Rumfield's gonna end up being pretty good.

And then what do you do with Charlie Connan?

That's a good problem to have.

If TJ Rumfield is ballin' out at first base

and he becomes your next rookie season, Michael Tolya,

you know, for lack of a better way of putting it,

where we all get, you know, excited

and think that this is the next big first baseman.

Great, that you could find another place for Charlie

if he's crushing the baseball.

Hell, put him in the plate.

He played right field yesterday in the spring training game.

He can play the outfield, he can play third base,

he's not a, Todd Hilton's just the guy that comes to mind,

but Todd Hilton's never playing anywhere

on the outfield other than first base, right?

That's the same with Charlie Connan.

Charlie, or that's the opposite Charlie Connan

is a guy that you can put anywhere.

And if you, the Rockies have no problem

with anybody being good.

That does not create any issues

that only creates positives at this point.

I don't give a shit if it's Amador,

or I don't give a shit if Edward Julian decides

to hit 500 this season and be the best second baseman

in the NL, the any of those guys being good

is not a, not a problem for you to look at it as,

oh, you know, if Tovar's an all star

and Tovar just continues his WBC run

and it's good for the next five years and in his prime,

I'm not worried about Ethan Holliday

not getting called up because Tovar's actually good.

If a player's good, I will fuck it, take him.

We need him.

We need him and he's we can get fit.

That's why I always say people always get upset

when the Rockies, you know, draft another shortstop

and they're like, we have 50 short stops.

Baseball, you never draft for big league positions.

You just draft guys that are good.

You don't care what position they play

because you can either develop them to be something else

or by the time they get there,

something else could have happened.

By the time Ethan Holliday gets to Coorsfield,

sure I hope Tovar's still playing shortstop,

but something else could have happened.

And if you have a blessing of riches

where both of those guys are good, you figure it out.

You put him at third base.

You put him at second base.

You put one of them at D.H.

You put one of them in the outfield.

I don't care.

Good teams know how to make things happen.

Mookie Betz was an outfielder

and moved to the infield with the Dodgers, right?

Like that's 100, 100 good men.

100 good men's when I started his career

and now he's a silver slugger at the position

and learning to play it

and getting better every single season.

Yeah, 100%.

So yes, you don't worry about positions.

If a guy's good and they will,

they, the team will make room for them

to have a spot on the roster.

This is an interesting comment from E-line in the chat.

Charlie, he said, well,

Charlie could be on the trade block

if he is not on the big league roster by May?

No, no, no chance.

Charlie is untouchable right now.

In my opinion, you gotta give him a shot at the big league level.

I don't think he would get enough for a trade

and what do you, what could you possibly be trading him for?

I mean, he's a young player

that is part of your development plan, right?

You're rebuilt.

If you were going to trade people,

you trade an older player for younger players, right?

I know Nolan Jones is a young player,

but you saw something different in value from Tyler Freeman

when you traded Nolan Jones

and they saw, I think, some flaws in Nolan Jones

that they, that maybe we weren't getting the full picture on.

Charlie Codden, you just don't even know yet.

You gotta give him a chance to,

he was your big draft pick on a year

that you were drafting in the top five.

You have to give him a shot.

If you were relating it to the abs, he was your Kal McCarrer.

You were the worst team in baseball or pretty close to it.

You dropped all the way to number three

and then you get theoretically

what should be one of the best power hitters in the draft

and could be one of the best power hitters in the MLB

when he gets to that level

if he grows to his potential.

So yeah, yeah, you don't touch that.

Because if Charlie Codden, God forbid,

if they traded Chuck, good Lord,

if they traded Charlie Codden

and he ended up being the guy that you drafted him to be

on someone else's team.

Like, you were a complete crash out that would be.

What a complete joke the Rockies would go to,

go from being, well, they were a joke last year.

They became competent during the off season

back to being a joke again.

We can't let that happen.

I'm only allowed one crash out this year, Eline.

If they trade Charlie Codden before the season starts,

we're getting my crash out before the season even gets underway.

So yeah, can't have that happen.

Yeah, he balled out in college.

You got to let him at least get the debut.

Now, it doesn't take away from the fact

that there could be a trade before the season starts.

In a different aspect.

I called that for the record.

I'm on record saying that.

And Spencer, yeah, Spencer, that was his idea.

I had forgot about that with the No One Jones

and Tyler Freeman trade last year.

So this is, I don't think it's going to happen,

but it's possible that they could trade someone

before the season starts.

I just don't think it would be content.

There's a 0.1% that it would be content.

Can you show that last comment

because I want to call this out?

And this is where we are moving.

Rollie Voss 303.

I'm begging you, come with me on this journey.

Come with us Rockies fans on this journey.

I've felt the same way you felt last year, right?

This is a new front office.

I'm not saying they're going to be the greatest front office

of all time, right?

I'm not saying they're going to turn this team around

and become 100 games, 100 game winner in three or four years.

That's what I hope happens.

But we have to, for now, just like in the great country

of America, you're innocent until proven guilty,

the old regime proved themselves guilty of getting fleeced.

This new regime, we have to trust that the trades and the DFA's

and the releases that they are making

are for the better of this team.

And so I'm not going to tell you how to fan.

I'm not going to tell you how to feel.

I felt the same way you did, but I have completely wiped

that slate clean.

And every single move that this Rockies team makes now

with a entirely new front office, entirely new coaching staff,

entirely new pitching staff, entirely new hitting coaches.

I mean, you can go down the list and it's just all new.

You have to give them some grace.

And if you want to be a positive Rockies fan,

you have to move out, move on from the past regime

and give this regime a shot.

Because that's the only way they're going to be good.

And if you want to have hope, they're going to be good.

These guys have to hit on their transactions.

I think that Walker Monfer, who made the high rings

of the front office of then Paul de Pedesta,

I think they've bought a little bit of benefit of the doubt.

They still have to prove it.

And that's where I'm coming from.

They still have to prove it.

But I also still feel like it's not entirely fair

to hold this front office, our expectations

for this front office, to take them

with the shortcomings of the previous front office.

That's kind of my take on this.

It's like, like you said, innocent till proven guilty.

There's entirely new people in the front office

than there was last year and beyond.

I'm going to give them a shot to prove themselves.

I think this trade deadline's going to be a big one

for us to see whether or not that is if it's what we hope

that it can be, especially in a rebuild season.

I think the moves that they've made this off season

and the limited time that they had have been good.

And I saw, you know, Rollie said that,

the front office signings, Castro, Julian, Michael Lorenz

and got thrown in their Jose Quintana.

I think they did really well with what limited time

that they had because all of them got hired

after the off season was well underway.

We'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now.

Spencer and I will be the first to jump on the Hader bandwagon

if things start going down.

But for now, I think it's fair to have some hope,

some optimism.

And I get that the Hardy fans out there, it's PTSD.

You're still a little shaken up,

but I do feel like there's a corner that's being turned.

Yeah, you can't worry about your new girlfriend cheating

on you because your old girlfriend,

Bill Schmidt, cheating on you 50 times.

You've got to let that shit go.

You have to.

Now, if it was Bill Schmidt still as the DM, we can worry.

And we can look at the emails and try to figure out

where he's actually at, right?

And figure out what he's doing when he's not with me.

But this is a new, you've got to put trust

in this new regime.

Could be good, could be bad, but you can't leave.

Can't carry that baggage over.

I love that, that's electric.

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All right, events coming up.

We do have official information on some upcoming events.

Spencer, what do we got for opening day?

Home opening.

So opening day, we will have a ticket to sell you.

It's going to be, this is going to be awesome.

We're doing opening day at Wincoop Brewing

in one of their bigger rooms in the back.

We're going to be doing our live show from there.

We're going to do it 10 to 2 on opening day.

Now, we are going to be selling a ticket for this.

It's going to be probably in the range of $20 to $30.

But you get all you can eat food

during the entire event from 10 to 2.

So come see us.

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in the upper level.

There'll be more info on ddnbr.com slash events.

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we'll put it on Instagram, all that stuff.

But you'll get all you can eat food, diehards.

We're going to get you a drink ticket.

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and all you can eat food.

And we've got a bunch of awesome stuff

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A bunch of stuff you're going to get

and be part of our opening day party.

It's one of my favorite days of the year.

I'm already looking forward to it.

Of course, we've got opening day itself next week.

We'll be doing a watch along for that.

But opening day plan on coming out and hanging out with us.

Even if it's for a couple hours,

you're not going to the game, come to Lotto.

It's one of the most fun days around the city.

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Toddler friendly, yes.

Yes, there will be kids there, bring your kids.

My kid probably will be there.

Yeah.

My kid will probably be there.

My wife will probably be there.

So yeah, come hang out with us.

It's going to be awesome.

There's going to be food.

There's going to be drinks.

There's going to be a lot of people hanging out,

being excited for Rocky's opening day

as it is the birth of a new season,

the birth of a new team,

the birth of taking advantage of Cours Field,

all of that stuff.

It's going to be awesome.

It's going to be electric.

Hey, speaking of that, Kyle Freeland.

I know this happened a couple of days ago,

but I just quickly wanted to touch on this.

He was announced opening day starter for the Colorado Rockies.

We already talked about that.

That will technically set up Michael Lorenzen

to get the official home opener start for the Rockies

if the math all lines up.

If that's where the rotation goes,

it would have Lorenzen starting at Cours Field

against the Phillies.

Is this the final Kyle Freeland opening day start?

That's the question that I had to ask.

I know I saw some people joking about it on Twitter.

Oh, the year is 2040 six.

Yes, I just wanted to read that.

But maybe it's like love.

Yeah.

The year is 2062.

The Rockies are fresh off.

They're 38th consecutive underlaw season.

And a 68 year old Kyle Freeland fresh off

another 4.9 year A season, making his 41st career opening

day start for the Colorado Rockies.

Electric, but that brought up the question.

Is this his last opening day start?

I would have to venture it a guess that it is, right?

He's in a contract year next year, right?

I'm correct on that.

I think I think it next year is a team option.

Or either team or a player option, 27.

You would hope.

You would hope when there's going to be no baseball.

Yeah, true.

That's also true.

You would hope, though, all things considered

that Chase Doelander is your opening day starter at some point,

right?

If he has the year that we hope he will have,

he is your guy starting opening day next year.

But despite beat, this might be Kyle Freeland's last opening

day start.

So we'll see.

He technically has done, well, he did well last year

until Bud Black pulled him after like 12 pitches.

What was the year before?

Oh, the year before that was the one he got

sheld, wasn't it?

Yeah, well, there wasn't Marques one in there somewhere,

right?

I'm pretty sure her mom Marques started opening day for the Rockies

somewhere in the last five or six years.

Yeah, but maybe I'm wrong on that.

Yeah, could be, could be.

But anyways, worth a, worth a note.

Hey, we got to, we got to talk about our baseball bracket.

And now I'm just now realizing I did not load up

the bracket on.

I got, I got it.

We're good.

I got the, I got the notes at least.

Yeah, but unfortunately no visuals for those of you at home.

If you haven't been following it already on Twitter,

we're doing a favorite Rocky bracket where we go through

and every day we're voting on fan favorite Rockies.

There were some tough matchups.

Kyle Freeland, I think got kind of, kind of,

hosed in that one.

But what's our update?

We got, so we, the one through eight has gone through

on both sides of the bracket.

No upsets here.

Todd Hilton, 93% over eight seated Ubaldo Jimenez.

Larry Walker, 81% over Rocky's opening day

started Kyle Freeland.

And Kyle Freeland, like Larry Walker

versus Kyle Freeland, not very fair matchup

because Larry Walker is one of the all-time greats.

So you're gonna be a statue, put outside course field

for him this season.

But Kyle Freeland as a kid that grows up in Colorado

and if you're my age or younger

and became a diehard Rockies fan,

Freeland is one of your favorites, if not your favorite,

because he's the guy that stuck it out.

Didn't you strike it out against Kyle Freeland?

I did, yes.

No, no, I grounded out.

He struck out everybody that he,

but I hit a weak ass woodbatte ground ball

to second base.

Wow.

I didn't know.

I forgot that you put the ball in play.

I remember you had faced him,

but I didn't know you put the ball in play.

Our whole team was just destroying us.

All right, Kyle Freeland was just mowing us down

in his side at Thomas Jefferson High School,

the side lot game, middle of the summer, woodbatte league.

And I actually put the ball in play.

I went at him early.

I was not letting him get to strike.

How hard was high school Kyle Freeland tossing back then?

I think he was 82 to 86 somewhere in there.

It was faster than anything I'd ever seen.

My guys were throwing like I was catcher.

And my guys were throwing like 75.

So I was like, all right, fine.

Yeah, I'm going to E-line.

I'm going to tell my kids I took Freeland Yard for sure.

But, and then Matt Holliday right now

is leading over Pedro Estacio at 96%.

So Matt Holliday looks like he's going to move on

in the four or five matchup.

And then our first potential upset,

I think I believe there's still maybe about an hour,

half an hour left in the bracket for the four or five

in the Rocky Mountain region, if you will.

Jeff Francis is leading over Ryan Mann.

So that shows me that some older heads

and some Rocky fans that are maybe my age that grew up

where Jeff Francis was the ace of a World Series team

and was electric, tall, the lefty, Canadian guy.

Jeff Francis is leading over Rymax.

So the matchups we got coming out today,

they'll be tweeted right after the show's overhead

over to at DNVR underscore Rockies on Twitter.

Follow us there, we need all the follows

for as we're, you know, going through the season

as we're tweeting out our stock up, stock down

as we're crashing out as we're tweeting videos.

But today's matchups are the three seeded

Charlie Blackman fan favorite.

I think he could make a deep run

versus six seed Hermann Marquez,

Rockies all-time leader in strikeouts.

And then another strong three seed,

Carlos Gonzalez versus semi-deep cut, Jorge De La Rosa.

At the time of his career, he was the all-time

Rocky's wins leader.

I don't know if that still stands,

but he was a great pitcher in one of the,

honestly, one of the guys that, you know,

I don't think he's around Coors Field anymore

like Estacio is and helping out the Rockies at all.

But De La Rosa was one of the first guys that came over

as a vet and actually had a lot of success at Coors Field.

Like, you know, success at Coors Field

looks different for everybody.

Looks different for pitchers than it does success

for Giants or Dodgers or, you know, Padres pitchers.

But Jorge De La Rosa had a lot of success at Coors Field.

So those are the matchups today.

Check our Twitter, those will go out today.

And no, somebody said Pitting Hilton versus Walker E-Line,

that will be the final if they both make it.

They're both one seed on each side of the bracket.

So Hilton versus Walker could be the number one

versus number one seed in the championship game

if it gets to that point.

March Madness is officially here.

I did see someone was upset that Dante but Shit

wasn't in the mix.

I think that's just because of lack of time played, right?

You know, I mean, yeah,

he had some memorable moments at Coors Field in Colorado

but time played factors into that.

You know, I don't know.

I thought it was pretty good.

I thought the rankings were pretty good.

He was the biggest omission though.

He was in the first four out that like,

a lot of people in a bracketology meeting

would argue that they should have been in.

He was the UCF, the undefeated UCF,

where you're like, yeah, he could be in.

He could, but we're not going to put it in there.

Yeah, and by the way, guys,

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We're doing a little watch along.

I'll be heading down there doing a little March Madness watch

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I know Spencer, you have bets in literally every single game.

Yeah, they've all lost so far.

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Last thing, I don't know if you've been noticing this,

completely random topic, but I don't know if you've been noticing

this, but all these other stadiums are doing

their, like, 2026 food item, food promotion.

Yeah, these things are popping off, man.

When the Rockies haven't released something.

They haven't done anything.

The last thing that the Rockies did, which I hate,

I absolutely hate it, was their stupid,

what is it, the polar pasta?

You remember that?

The ice cream pasta?

Garbage, by the time you get it, and it's 100 degrees,

and it's just a mushy plate of vanilla ice cream

with some strawberry thrown into it as pasta sauce.

It was not a win, in my opinion, last year for the Rockies.

So I think the Rockies got to step it up.

Yeah, ice cream spaghetti.

What the hell even is that?

So we got the Dodgers they have.

Watermelon Habanero Margarita, incredible.

That's great.

My wife's going to be this, that she's pregnant, yep.

Tahine dusted rim with a watermelon habanero mix.

So that seems great.

That's the only good thing the Dodgers have ever done.

The Marlins have their new machete menu item,

which is a two-foot-long homemade flour tortilla

with different cheeses, well-hacken cheeses,

marinated carne asada, smoky guajillo pepper sauce.

Just a fat ass taco is basically what that is.

That's taco.

That sounds so good for all 30 people

that are there at a Marlins game.

And then the Diamondbacks have their take me out

to the ballgame shake, which is salted caramel shake

with whipped cream, peanut butter sandwich cookies,

Kit Kat bars, and Cracker Jack.

It's a heart attack in a bowl.

But I would probably also do that.

I was going to say, you're an ice cream guy.

So you would definitely go full-send on that.

We need, when this comes out for the Rockies,

if it comes out, if there's a new food item,

whatever that gets posted slash promoted,

we need to do a video review of it.

That's clearly for content.

I agree, I agree.

I remember last year there was conversations about us

possibly doing like a city connect jersey reveal on the show.

Like the Rockies PR was debating on giving us a box

and having us film a reveal thing.

But it just never worked out because it was too short on timing.

But I think we could pull some strengths.

I think we could maybe see if we could reveal it on the show,

do a little taste test on the show,

see if it's worth it or not.

Yeah, actually, you need to send a text to Rockies PR

right after the show and say, hey, what's the new food item?

These are going viral. What is ours?

Yeah, I know you guys don't give me any scoops.

Like you give Thomas Harding,

so he is the team reporter.

But can I get this scoop?

Can we get the food scoop?

Yeah, can we get this food scoop?

Yeah, can we be the food guys?

Please.

Oh, I love it. I love it.

All right, we got to wrap things up.

I got to get a jump on this March bad industry.

Thank you guys for watching. We'll be back next week.

Our schedule's going to change a little bit.

Our show on Tuesday is normal at noon.

Spencer, I haven't talked to you about this yet,

but we got to move our second show

because I had a Thursday appointment come up

on Marissa's side of things.

So we're going to be doing a baby stuff on Thursday.

So we'll be moving our other show.

So we'll post something about that.

But yeah, thank you guys for watching.

We'll see you guys next week.

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