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Kerry Lutz, recovering attorney; veteran financial broadcaster; author, America's Great Parking Scam: You've Been Robbed.
Congressman John McGuire (VA-05): Washington Update.
J. Dirk Nies, Ph.D.; scientist; author; and executive director, Floriescence Institute: The Maple Syrup Mystery and The Nies Formulation Update.
All this and more on a Wild Wednesday Edition of The Schilling Show.
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Coming up on today's edition of the Shilling Show, we recently had this big story in Charlottesville
about the parking lot and how they were going to require an app. And it was going to really
disenfranchise a lot of people and leave people out. And I think they backed down a little
bit, but that's why this topic caught my attention. Carrie Lutz will be joining us as new book
as America's great parking scam. You've been robbed. We'll get to the details of that and
why all of these things are very problematic with Carrie Lutz coming up at the bottom of
the hour.
And hour number two, it's the return of fifth district Congressman John McGuire with
a Washington update lots to talk about with our Congressman. We're pleased that he'll
be back on the show later on today. And then it's our scientist in residence, Dirk Nees
will be joining us a couple of subjects. We're going to go in a very different direction
today, at least with the first subject, the maple syrup mystery. And there's a lot of
mysterious things around maple sap and syrup and the way it works. And Dirk says that
we understand more about black holes than we do about maple syrup. So that's going to
be fascinating, just taking a little diversion. And then he's come up with something which
we discussed last time called the Nees formulation, which allows him to solve very complex problems
in almost no time at all. He has an app for that. We're going to talk about his latest
development and discovery. And it's pretty exciting stuff. And by the way, you heard about
it here. First, I have a feeling it will be making a whole lot of news once people
figure out that they can access that. Again, the phone lines open at 977 1070 and we
welcome you to the program. And I hear the phones ringing just want to get to one thing
here. First, this is coming from the group in visible Charlottesville, the rabble rousers
and let's say intolerant group, although they call themselves tolerant. It's really a
joke. This has to do with the school board meeting tomorrow night. I'm planning to be
there in person to witness this. But here we go. Invisible Charlottesville timely call
to action. This was posted on social media show up for our schools and our neighbors.
We expect organized activists to pack. That means to overwhelm and maybe even introduce
Heckler's veto, which they love doing the ACPS school board meeting this Thursday, March
12th and try to dominate public comment. Turning point USA chapters have brought in speakers
promoting ideology rooted in racism, transphobia and exclusion. By the way, the other groups,
the left wing groups at Western outlaw and other government schools have brought in
anti-Americanism, atheism and demonic practices into the schools. But that's not a problem.
Let's continue. That was parenthetical. School board member Allison Spillman has faced
harassment and threats for speaking about it. I just love the way the report that you
mean by comparing people to the KKK people like Victoria Cobb, who brings a godly message
into the schools and Allison Phil Spillman has faced harassment. Come on. Authoritarian
movements succeed by targeting one group at a time and intimidating anyone who pushes
back. Now, isn't that the pot calling the kettle black? Isn't that throwing stones
in a glass house? Listen to that and see if this applies to TPUSA or if it more applies
to invisible Charlottesville. Authoritarian movements succeed by targeting one group at a time.
Turning point USA and intimidating anyone who pushes back, show up and overwhelm the
meeting packed with activists and dominate public comment. When our neighbors' freedoms
are attacked, everyone's freedoms are at risk. What freedom? The attack on freedom is
the attack on limiting limited speech and the ability of such a club to even be in existence.
That's turning point USA and Elmo County government schools, but you see they're right out of
the communist playbook, Saul Linsky and all that. You accuse your enemy of doing what
you yourself are doing. It's become very transparent. This week, the school board will vote on
an update to policy reviewing how student clubs are funded and how outside speakers are invited
because they're targeting parenthetically, Erica Kirk's appearance and turning point USA.
Even though Rebecca Perlinson, we're not targeting anyone group or anyone speaker,
when in fact, that's exactly what they were doing. Show up to tell them to approve the
policy and protect schools that are safe and welcoming for all students. Unless you're
in turning point USA, then it's unsafe and unwelcome. And the picture they use says it all
worth a thousand words. Hashtag police free schools. No fascist student clubs in ACPS. Good grief.
We're sunk. Get your kids a hell out of government schools. All right. Let's see who we got here.
Let's go to the phones and say hello to Paul 977 1070. Hello, Paul. Rob. Hey.
I was going to call about the fan burgers. Got the new gun control bill. Yeah, but
invisible Charlottesville. You know, they're so concerned about my rights, but if I would go
to the school board meeting, they would stomp on my ability to speak because I don't drink from
the same well they drink from I don't buy the same brand Kool-Aid beer gasoline, whatever
that you want to say. And that's the issue. If they want to take care of their neighbors,
then they need to let their neighbors speak and they need to be quiet. What's that old saying,
that old golden phrase? Silence is golden. Yes. It's true. Yes. And it's true. It's time for them to
be silent. The problem is these are a bunch of busy bodies. You do not have a much of a social
life except involving in politics. And that's all they do. If they get together, they talk politics.
And after a while, they run out of people to talk about. That's the reason they hate Trump
because Trump gives them enough information, enough stuff to hate him about. And ultimately,
that's what happens. And they're too afraid to stand up to each other because of the fact that
then they go on the hate list. Then they're banded. They're not no longer socially acceptable.
It's a real problem that we have. And this group appears to have absorbed, I'm guessing, the
hateful schools coalition that used to come and disrupt the meetings even had to be arrested some
of them sometime ago. So they just carry on under a different name. And yes, they're using the same
tactics. They point out the turning point USA is using which is nothing of the sort. And they
point those out as a flaw on the other side. And then they implement those practices. It's going to
be quite a show. You can put the word you want in front of show on Thursday night. I plan to be
there to witness it. But we just say a prayer for the turning point USA people, they're fine young
men and women who are more tolerant of by magnitudes than invisible Charlottesville. Paul,
I got to go to the break. Always good to hear from you and you hit it and nailed it. That leaves
a line open at 977 1070 for whatever is on your mind. All points. If you are welcome on the
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I'm shilling show dot com. Siva right now dot com on the listen live button. Let's go back to
the phones. The line open at 977 1070. Hold on. We'll get to you. Let's say hello to Jerry. Hello.
Hey Rob. How are you? I'm breaking the law bumper, bumper traffic using my
phones. I hope the stop vote isn't watching. I hope not. Anyway, air of governor. Now my
apologies to anybody from New Jersey as a conservative. I do know those refugees that have moved
out to Virginia to get away from New Jersey. But our New Jersey governor, Spanberger, when you call
her office, which I've called about five times, nobody answers the phone. And it gives you only
three options. And you really don't know what options to take. Option one is something it doesn't say
leave a message for Spanberger. But anyway, it's oddball that, you know, nobody can answer the phone
that our office because they don't want to hear any complaints you have about bills that are about
to be passed. So our New Jersey governor doesn't want to hear from you. And she's about to sign the
gun bill. And she's about to sign the removal of a tax example for the United
daughters of the Confederacy, their big national headquarters. But I'm calling about this
guy from New Jersey, Fairfax County, which is about to represent my county when they
jerrymander the whole state. He's on his own little thing, grinning like a mule eating
briars. Telling us about how he wants to do away his bill to do away with a robbery,
license plates, and it's done to Confederate veterans license plates, is going to make everything
better for all Virginians, for all Virginians, and he doesn't want to honor people that murdered
and were treasonous against the United States government. I guess New Jersey doesn't teach
any American history. Well, they probably have a similar law to the one we're going to pass about
teaching regarding January 6th and Virginia. So probably the schools are mandating a one
sided narrative and leaving out a bunch of history. That'd be my guess.
Well, I'll send you the video of this cat. And, you know, he looks like a preppy, you know,
about 30 years old, lean cut, and talking about Virginia history and how bad it is. And we fought
for slavery, which he doesn't know anything about Virginia. And I also sent you the video that
ball hit guy, no offense to ball hit people. I'm almost there, but he's got a shape here,
telling about how he was on the redistricting committee, the original one in what, 2020.
Yeah. And how it was unfair. And so now he's going to vote for fair elections and it's only
a temporary measure. This is the most, you know, went to voting this thing. This is the most
biased, written proposal for change of the Constitution you've ever seen.
The language is atrocious. And I think that's going to be part of the problem when they go to court
after I'm pretty sure it's going to pass. I hope it does. And I encourage people to go vote no.
But they tend to leave a lot of things out when they write these bills and decide how this is
going to be addressed. I guess the person who writes, who passes the bill, the party or the person
who submitted that bill gets to put the language on the ballot, which is a total lie. But the left
and their minions in the media are very good at perpetuating untruths. Jerry, thank you so much.
Always good to hear from you. And thanks for those videos. Back to the phones. Mason, your turn.
Hello. Hey, I hope you're feeling better. Oh, man, I'll give you a rundown on that real quick.
I put in the sick bed for about six weeks. That's a long time.
I was out of the country for two months and I got pneumonia.
That's no good at any age. No good at any age. But
I made it back to the States and UVA popping me full of antibiotics and I feel 10 times better
than I did. So I'm ready to go hold a sign. All right. What's on your mind today? I'm glad you're
doing better. Thank you, sir. Spanberger. The reason that she happened is because people didn't
go to vote. I can't, I just can't seem to get it through people's heads. You've got to get
off your effing butt and go vote. I don't know why. Yeah, I don't know why that's a hard
concept for people. And I know it's going on, but I never hear anybody admit it. Do you know
people personally who's told you they didn't vote out of whatever reason? No, they're chicken
SHI to say. All right. Well, I agree with you. People need to vote. And if we had our base
turning out, that would change everything. Unfortunately, it's a problem. And I don't know how to
solve it. I guess the thing's got to get really bad before people decide it's worth getting out
of the house. That's that's short-sighted at best. Mason, thank you. I want to get one more call.
Oh my goodness. What did I just do? Let me put this one. All right. Let's see if I can fix this
here. Okay, I think it got a fix. Greg, go right ahead. I had a little technical melt down here,
but we got a fix. Hello. Well, don't worry. You know, I'm frustrated just like Jerry and Mason. Yeah,
you know, how come, all right, my family came here in a 1690 through Jamestown. And then we've
got somebody that's born in Bangladesh or born somewhere. One out of every hundred were newly
person immigrants 30 years ago or so. That's one in seven. And the Democrats won't mask migration.
You know why? Because they want to promote their neo-Marcus communist bills. The Democrat party is
a communist party. The Democrat party does not believe in the Bill of Rights in the first, second,
third, fourth, and all the 10 Bill of Rights, the first ones. This bill that this man appear in
Northern Virginia put forth to the American, the Virginia citizens is pure disarmament so they
can eventually control us and do make us do everything they want to do just like they did in Russia
in China and in the Nazis. And we're letting it happen. And if people talk like I'm talking,
they think I'm big and I'm not big. And if you want to come here, you assimilate, you believe in
the same policies and values that my ancestors believed in the hills of Virginia. And that is,
you have a right to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. Anything short of that is treasonous,
treasonous. Bottom line. Well, you make a very good point as to why they're letting people
crash the gates. And I would point to a story in the Atlantic from last year.
Starting after Trump's election through the end of 2018, 30,000 fewer babies than otherwise would
be expected were conceived in Democrat counties by contrast 7,000 more than expected in
Republican counties during the same period. The Democrats are essentially not reproducing and a
lot of that has to do with the abortion culture and this death cult and death wish that they have
for children in many different ways. And I think that says a lot and makes your point. The Democrats
have a demographic problem. And the only way they can solve it because well, they worship at
the altar of killing the innocent babies, that's the centerpiece of their platform and they call it
choice. But that leads to logistical issues politically down the line. If they kill all the babies,
there will be no one left to vote for Democrats except the old ones who somehow survived their
parents and that party. So that's exactly as I anticipated. And I think it goes to your point.
It's political power and they realize they're losing the demographic battle. I wish it wasn't the
case. I wish people were having children as God commanded us to do and treating them with respect
instead of sacrificing them at the altar of personal convenience and calling it a right. That's just
sick. All right, we'll have time for more calls. At the top of the next hour right now, we're going to
news and weather at the bottom of the hour. Carrie Lutz will be joining us. The great parking scam.
You've been robbed. We just had a brush with that here in Charlottesville. We'll get into that
after news and weather. Stay with the Shilling Show. Yeah, we got trouble in the country. That's
paleface. We recently had this issue here with the parking and the intent to shove down the
throats of citizens of Charlottesville automated systems that would leave a lot of people out and
require apps on your phone. So I was very interested when I saw our guest's new book, Carrie Lutz
joins us a recovering attorney, a veteran financial broadcaster and author of the new book America's
Great Parking Scam. You've been robbed. Carrie, welcome back to the Shilling Show.
Well, hey, it's a pleasure to be with you and yeah, I was studying up on your situation there.
And I heard you had a rebellion against your grifting municipality and they backed off and
they're putting up some kiosk problem is. The problem is the kiosk is just another interface to the
app. It hooks into the app. The app, if it's park mobile or pay-by-phone, whichever one it is,
you're as metropolis. I don't even know what to. So I'll try to be using it. It's still going to
read your credit card or your or your you still have to put in your license plate number. So it's
tracking you anyway. This is the whole point of these cities think that that they can just do whatever
they want and the citizens are going to put up with it. Well, they're breaking 15 different laws
before you even close the door and finish your parking. For instance, there's a national
standard for signs on the highway, not just parking, but speed limit, stop signs. All of these
signs must conform to a federal standard. Every state has adopted the federal standard because if
they didn't adopt it, they would not get federal highway funding. And basically these rules are the
DNA. They're the operating system of American highways system so that if you're in Key West
or you're in Anchorage, Alaska, you see the same signs and you know what to do. But the problem
is that the cities have stopped using the legal parking signs and they're now using the equivalent
of digital stickers, QR codes, to basically tell you the rules, which is not legal. And they give
you tickets when you don't follow through and obey the QR code sign. And I've started an action
in Florida against six municipalities and three different parking app companies. Our lead
defendant is the town of Palm Beach where our president resides. And in that town, they've
gone app only. So problem is that you are forced into a digital contract. That's called
forced agency, just like Obamacare. You're forced to download an app, click terms of service.
When you say I agree, you have entered into a contract. And then basically if you want to park
within the town of Palm Beach, you must use the app to pay. There's no parking. There's no
kiosks. There's no place you can go pay cash. You have to use the app. And there's a bigger problem
that your town isn't even aware of, but they're going to be soon. And that is that we have this
situation where minors drive and minors 16, 17 year old aren't able to enter into contracts.
They don't have the mental capacity to enter into a contract. So any contract they enter into
is voidable. And in addition, you know, when that thing that automated license plate reader
reads your place, it knows your exact geolocation. So they get the geolocation of minors.
And then they share them with third parties. When you sign onto that app, you're agreeing to
wave your privacy rights. You're agreeing to accept arbitration instead of litigation.
You're stating that you're not going to join a class action against them. All of these things
that a minor doesn't have the legal capacity to be able to consent to. Really, the minor to have
a parking app would need parental consent. But guess what? There is no means of giving parental
consent to to these parking apps because they're on the app stores rated at four years and up,
same for everybody, basically. So it's another mouthful. Well, it's a situation that I was not aware
of contractually. I just never thought about it like that. But you have you have used the term
parking industrial complex, which appears that this is a coordinated effort to essentially steal
a lot of things from people including their identities and their locations. So what is the
parking industrial complex and who's actually behind it? Okay, so there's different layers. I call
this a big stinking onion. And every time you peel away a layer of it, it gets worse. So obviously
you have your parking apps. And with parking apps that you pay for your parking, you may or
may not be able to use a kiosk. But the kiosk is basically the same as using the app for the
reasons I said. It's just another interface. You've got your cities, your municipalities,
in search of easy revenue that they can obtain without raising taxes. You have the national
league of cities and the 49 states have their own league of cities. And this national league of
cities is a lobbying of fortress for municipalities. And they never talk about making the municipalities
more efficient, shutting taxes, getting rid of useless staff. Their whole thing is to further
the municipal grift and to how to maximize revenue. And who supports the national league of
cities? Many of these apps that we're talking about supposedly have contributed to it in the past.
Haven't seen the evidence, but that's what I've heard. And then we've got other ones that go
further than just the apps. They actually provide a one-stop shopping for all your towns
parking enforcement needs. They put up the signs. They actually have their own agents who write
tickets. And it's kind of a legal blind spot in Florida here. A lot of states can't do it,
but private people giving out tickets for offenses on public property. There's something wrong with
that. And in fact, in Virginia, I researched it. I think it's Bill 783. They want to expand the
right of cities to actually be able to hire more private contractors to write tickets. And what
does that tell you? Why would you want to hire a private contractor instead of having your own
employee do it? Because you know the private contractor is going to incentivize those people
to write more and more and more tickets. Another thing that they do is they do revenue splits.
And there's a entity that I'm also suing. It's in with a rivier of each of the contracts
that they actually sign. Very big sweetheart deals, often with no-bid loopholes. In Florida,
we have this thing where if another entity has bid out a contract, another municipality,
you can just accept that contract with a vendor and not have to have public bidding.
All these little loopholes the cities are using. And this is just one example of the grift.
It's a complete grift. And what they've forgotten is that they too have to follow the law.
They've got to follow the signage law. For instance, you've seen these signs your entire life.
As have I, a parking sign got to be seven feet off the ground. A no parking sign or a parking
sign that prohibits parking within certain times got to be 12 to 8 inches at least.
And it's got to have a light background with red lettering and a red border around the sign.
And it's got to have this thing called retro reflectivity, which is a fancy way of saying
the sign's got a glow in the door. And if the sign doesn't glow, then it's got to go.
But they keep them up anyway. All of those app signs, none of them have retro reflectivity.
None of them are signs. In addition, you can only get a ticket if there's a valid sign up there.
If the sign is invalid, guess what? Your ticket's invalid. So everybody is getting a piece of this
data processing, the company that makes the automated license processor, the app companies.
It's all one big club. And we're not in it.
We're talking with Carrie Lutz. The new book is America's great parking scam. You've been robbed.
And of course, we've been living that here in Charlottesville, Al Marl and having this discussion.
Much more to talk about many more questions. And if you have comments or questions,
we'd love to hear from you. You could send me an email to robassetsivorightnow.com or there's
a line open for you. You want to talk to Carrie Lutz at 977-1070. Stay with the Shilling Show.
All right. The Shilling Show continues on this Wild Wednesday edition. The topic is
America's great parking scam. You've been robbed. Carrie Lutz is our guest and Bob is on the line
with a question or a comment. Bob, you're on with Carrie Lutz. Go right ahead.
I may have mentioned this to you in the past. The city took away their license plate readers
off the cars because they didn't want to have a problem with illegal aliens or other people.
Yet they're basically doing the same thing and using them in these parking garages.
It just seems like such a hypocritic way to do this.
Okay. This is a very interesting point. So we had the whole issue and Bob, thank you for the call
with the flock cameras and people got upset over them and they finally took them down.
So Carrie, is this the same thing just in a different implementation?
Yeah, well, so different states have different laws. They're called ALPR's automatic license plate
readers. And so the way it works, a lot of states say it can only be used for law enforcement
purposes, not for the purpose of writing citations. So I'm not sure about how Virginia's law works,
but having the regular scanners out there reading everybody's plates is pretty much legal.
I haven't heard much in other states, but there's obviously fourth amendment grounds.
But if you're in public, your license plates there, then it seems to be fair game.
What's happening though in some cities with these ALPR's is the parking enforcement agent
scans your plate. Well, okay, they're checking to see if your meter is expired or you didn't
put money in the meter, but it's also running other searches. It's running search to see if your
inspection sticker has expired because that's kept in a database now. It's also checking to see if
your registration expired. It has the capability to see if your insurance is lapsed and pretty
soon it's going to be checking for overdue library books. I want to make sure I understand what
you're saying because this is a critically important piece here. So you're saying when they scan
these in the parking lot, if you're going in and out through the app that they have all those
things accessible that you just referenced and they could follow up and pursue you for violations
that they find, is that what you're saying? Absolutely. I'm not saying they're all doing it.
Capability is there. They're doing it in New York City and they're doing it in Boston. New
York City is the Kuwait of parking ticket, issuing over 11 million every year and pulling over
a billion dollars in revenue. And the signs in New York are just as illegal as any place else.
If anybody out there wants to take pictures and send them to me, I'll look at them. I'll give you
my professional judgment, not a legal judgment. And my website where you can join the National
Association of American Defroted Parkers is parkscam.com. I hope people will take advantage of the
opportunity because I have a feeling that this is a growing movement against this parking industrial
complex. We've got just a little time left. So I did want to talk about fighting back legislatively
and legally. You mentioned lawsuits. Is this how we're going to take care of the problem?
Yeah. So, you know, the lead agency in every state just about that's responsible for administering
those signs to make sure they're legal is the State Department of Transportation. Right now,
in Florida, due to my efforts, there is an investigation starting into all these illegal
signs. Because if the signs are illegal, the ticket's illegal. If the ticket's illegal, then your
payment isn't proper. You know, they have no right. Because it's a due process, but due process
means fair. And fair means before you can get zing for an offense for breaking a law, you
got to have notice of it. The federal government says the only way you have notice of parking
regulations is through these signs. And for instance, if the sign is mounted parallel to the street,
you don't have proper notice. It has to be seen by oncoming traffic. And like I said, if it's not
seven feet high, then it can be blocked off. And, you know, again, it's not valid. You know,
if it's six foot ten inches, no judge's throwing out a ticket. But if it's five feet like in
Riviera Beach, Florida, they're going to toss it. And then also the colors. Also, they're not
allowed to have any logos, no advertising. When you see a QR code, that is an ad for the parking
app company. It's specifically prohibited by federal and state law. No artwork, no trademark.
You got to have this. The fonts have to be the same fonts that the feds say. It's all in this
book. It's online. It's called the MUTCD. The manual on uniform traffic control devices.
It's the 11th edition. It's 1200 pages. The parts that we care about as far as parking goes.
It's only about 10 pages. It gives you all the signs that are permissible. In Florida,
we've got attorney general opinions. We have all sorts of government agencies saying the
signs have to comply. But in little perenns, it says accept parking. But except that there is
no exception for parking because parking doesn't matter for some reason. And if we can beat them on
this grift, we can beat them on other grifts. Municipalities have just become a syndication of
grifts with private contractors and basically enforcement going off the grid because municipalities
can't really manage all this stuff. So they have to contract it out. It's gone on for too long.
They've ignored these signs. Virtually every state in the country is the same exact situation.
Chicago, Boston, Denver, they just get rid of the signs. Kerry, we're just about out of time.
But I do want you to once again tell us where we can get the book. America's great parking scam.
You've been robbed and where we can reach you. Go ahead. Sure. Hey, you find the book on Amazon
and Barnes and Noble and wherever find books used to be sold. And of course, parkscam.com.
And just one further note, like right across the street from where I filed the lawsuit
in the West Palm Beach, there's no signs to be found. It's a due process for his own right
across the street from the courthouse. It's going to be fun watching the cities squirm out of this one.
Well, I can't wait to hear about it because I'm sure there's much more to the story as this plays out.
Kerry, let's thanks for joining us today on the Shilling Show. Truly appreciate it and very
good information, especially in light of what's been going on here in Charlottesville.
All right, we're heading into news and weather at the top of the hour. You can want to get in line.
It's 977-1070. We will have open phones coming up for you at 977-1070. And then we have much to
talk about in hour number two, including Congressman John McGuire with a Washington update.
And our scientists and residents, Dirk Nees, will be joining us as well. In the meantime,
send me an email, Rob S. to sevelrightnow.com. And the Shilling Show will return after news and
weather. Stay with us. Hour number two of the Shilling Show for this wild Wednesday edition of
the program, an abbreviated news analysis commentary and insight segment. In addition to the
community town hall, continuing if there's something on your mind, we want to hear about it.
And I just got a call during the break from a deputy community watchdog who brought something to my
attention. Well, we'll tell you about it in just a minute. It's typical Charlottesville.
Good grief. 977-1070 is the phone number. That's 977-1070. Marshall standing by to receive
your calls politely and professionally. You can also send me an email to Rob S. at sevelrightnow.com.
I'd love to hear from the listening audience. And coming up in this hour of the program,
we're expecting inbound from Congressman John McGuire representing Virginia's fifth district
with an update on things going on in Washington. Lots to talk about with the congressman.
Dirk knees our scientists and residents will be joining us on the maple syrup mystery and the
knees formulation update. We've got a lot to talk about always in a very interesting science-based
segment. I'm so grateful for experts like Dirk and others who appear on this program regularly
in their fields of expertise to share with us things. Well, in a little bit of depth more than
you'll get in a regular newscast where they might give 20 seconds to a topic. Here we like to dig deep
and it pays off because we learn a lot together. All right, so let's go to what is the city of Charlottesville
doing now? What is the city of Charlottesville doing now that you might be interested in?
Well, I have been receiving a lot of back-end communications from Deputy Community Watch Dogs
members of the listening audience who are very concerned about a huge homeless encampment over
in the free bridge area right off the revamped trail and how it's making it unsafe for people to use
the trail particularly females who are particularly vulnerable. We've had problems on that trail before
and I'm sure we will have problems on that trail again. So here's what they're doing.
The city of Charlottesville will conduct a coordinated cleanup and outreach effort along
portions of the revamped trail and you know right where that is. It's coming up later this month.
It's part of the city's ongoing work to address public safety, environmental protection
and community health concerns in areas where I love the phrasing here. Individuals are currently
living outdoors. Could there be any more cliche in the city of Charlottesville? How ridiculous.
So if you're really concerned about public safety or environmental protection you can just wonder
where people are going to the bathroom down there and what sorts of things are getting in and
around the water supply. Community health concerns then you would not allow people to congregate
there in that way but that's not what they're willing to do. They're going to enable it and just
invite more people to come to camp Charlottesville. Now we have compassion as compassionate people for
people who are in those circumstances. Some of them put themselves there and that's their way of
kind of checking out of life. There are probably other people with mental problems and other people
with physical issues. We understand that we need to have compassion for people but it's not
compassionate to enable them to continue to live in a place that is unsafe in many ways as they
just referenced and that makes it unsafe for other people living here in more conventional ways.
The cleanup will be conducted by a signature property maintenance LLC. I wonder whether they
didn't just do it with the city staff and we'll focus on removing trash and debris from impacted
sections of the trail. Funding for the cleanup will total approximately $2,400. I'll bet you
goes a lot harder than that. Supported through a combination of opioid abatement funding and parks
and recreation resources. This sounds to me like a creative funding. Opiate abatement funding
unless we have information that there's a bunch of people down there shooting heroin. I mean,
it could be the case. Let's listen to the city continues. Charlottesville working to mitigate
potential water quality impacts in the air. I don't think it's potential. I think you can imagine
what's going into the water there. Plans include the installation of portable restrooms and secure
needle disposal containers to reduce environmental and public health risks. You remember back in the day,
this is going back to like 2010 and we were covering the occupiers in the park and they eventually
got porta-potties and they were cooking food and violation of state law and all that. It was the
city enabling people breaking the law. It's giving me vibes from that era. Needles. Needles,
secure needle disposal, portable restrooms. We put those in the city park. So here we go again with
the portable restrooms just kind of validating that this is Camp Charlottesville. Come from miles
around to beautiful Camp Charlottesville where your every need will be met by the city government.
City staff will also conduct outreach with individuals currently staying. I love the terminology
in the area. The outreach efforts will include distributing informational materials and providing
fire safety kinds related to heaters, open flames and carbon monoxide risk. So are they
are those things allowed? If you just went to the park and you had like set up a tent in Lee Park
or Jackson Park and you had a heater on inside your tent, is that legal? Are you allowed to have
open flames on the revanna trail? I wonder if they're violating laws and the city's looking the
other way, which it kind of sounds like it may be. As well as available information on community services,
the city is developing a recurring maintenance schedule for the area. So this is long term
going to go on for a long time. Staff will monitor conditions on a monthly basis and conduct
cleanups at least quarterly. Is that keeping anybody safe? If the city goes there once a month
and kind of peaks around and then comes and cleans up every quarter, what about all the time between
the beginning of those three months and the end of those three months? Are we going to have
human waste material getting into the water and getting into the ground? I'm sure that's the case.
They will bring poor to parties. That doesn't mean people are necessarily going to use them.
We've seen that before. There's trash cans on the downtown mall, but people throw the garbage
on the ground all the time. Maybe they need to bring this environmental cleanup team to the
downtown mall because I understand they have a problem with human waste on the mall as well.
This continues. The city remains committed to balancing public safety, environmental stewardship,
and compassionate outreach as it works with community partners to address the challenges of
unsheltered homelessness. So public safety is not priority number one and this is the problem with
the city of Charlottesville and it has been for a long time. They refuse to prioritize. They want to
do a balancing act which does nothing to help anybody. I had this experience myself when I asked
them when the budget process years and years ago when I was a part of the city council,
to make priorities and fund the priorities first and then go to the things that you would like,
but are not necessarily doing. They have a real problem. So they're going to balance public safety,
which means in the name of compassionate outreach, you may be sacrificed. That's what it means.
And the same thing with the environment, not a priority mind you when it comes to balancing
community partners and the unsheltered homeless. Good grief. Let's go to the break.
Coming back on the other side with fifth district congressman John McGuire lots to talk about.
Stay with the Shilling Show. All right. The Shilling Show continues on a wild Wednesday.
Please welcome back to the show congressman John McGuire Virginia's fifth district with an update
on things happening in Washington and Boyer. We in busy times congressman McGuire. Welcome back to
the Shilling Show. Are you there? All right. We have a deadline. I'm here. There we go.
I got it. Okay. Hey, yeah. Hey, thanks for having me on your show. Yeah, there's a lot going on
right now. You may know we're at the GOP issues conference in Florida right now in the President
Grave and very motivating speech. And we're going to continue delivering for the American people.
You know, his first year was just incredible. And now we're focusing on what are we going to do to
continue delivering on national defense, energy, affordability and all those things that make our
country the best in the world. Let's talk about Iran. It's certainly at the top of the news and
rightfully so tell us about the case for what we're doing there and what the objectives are.
Well, you know, obviously, you know, people have gotten used to their terror in the world.
You know, just like Washington DC, for example, you know, when I became the new congressman a year ago,
you got about the staffers and one young girl on my team said that she hates Uber if she has to walk
more than two blocks. And I said, why did you do that? She said it's so dangerous. People got used
to DC being the murder capital of the world. Two or three people murdered just about every week.
And I think there hasn't been a murder in a week because President Trump said, no,
would I get used to that? And he claims up, they about Iran. They sent about 57 years. They've
been killing hundreds of American troops and citizens and terrorizing the world. And with all their
prophecies, just they didn't have those problems in the Middle East. And President Trump said, why
are we getting used to it? Now we had the Midnight Hammer, the best military in the world that took
up their ability to enrich uranium. We all knew that they had already produced enough uranium for
11 bombs. And when a number one state sponsor of terror says, if we get a nuclear weapon, we are
going to use it. We're not talking hundreds, not talking thousands, we're talking millions of
deaths. And we tried to go, I mean, Steve Whitpoff, he went in there, tried everything,
you know, as President Trump said, they should have taken the deal. We tried everything to
negotiate with him. And they were very arrogant saying, we can build 11 bombs. And we've got all these
ballistic missiles. And we can use those to deliver that. And so they were doing this, building
this wall of ballistic missiles where no country can stop them from developing that nuclear weapon.
And many presidents have drawn a red line. And if Ray Rank frosted it and doing anything,
but President Trump is not that sort of president. So we President Trump says what he means and
means what he says. And he is stopping them from being a threat. We're not used to them terrorizing
or killing American people anymore. John, one of the great issues is securing the enriched uranium,
which they think there's a certain quantity that they need to get their hands on. Not giving away
any secrets, but I'm guessing that that is something that is at the top of the list because if
that gets into the wrong hands, it could be incredibly dangerous. Yeah, you're absolutely right about
that. Certainly we would never have President Trump said it would be stupid to tell people what time
we're going to attack. If we're going to attack or how we're going to do it. So we're not going to
be stupid. But what I think we have seen in this administration is that peace through strength
and having them, you know, supporting our military is very important. And you saw how they got
Maduro and you've seen how they got air superiority in Iran into some matter of days. And they had
some of the strong like Iran had some the strongest air defense missile systems in the world.
And now we are repealing our fighter planes over that city. So we have the best military,
the best spirit. And I've seen some politicians just badmouth them over doing over there.
And that's terrible. Imagine if you are deployed or your family members deployed and your life
could be on the line and you've got people that represent you badmouth and what you do.
So what I've been telling everybody is I look, you can money more to quarterback later. You can
have different opinions later. But right now we ought to be wearing the same jersey, the U.S.
A jersey and telling our troops that what they're doing is important and we support them.
They're making the region safer. They're making American safer. And I certainly support what
they're doing. I want to shift gears. We do have a limited amount of time. We're talking with fifth
district congressman, John McGuire, to the Save America Act. What's going on in the Senate? I know
you're not a senator, but certainly have a sense for this. It looks like it's being sabotaged by
Republicans possibly. If I'm believable, I got to tell you, Democrats certainly not helped
at all, but yeah, we would thank at least for Republicans to be on board. We passed it to the House,
obviously, we did that part, but that's not enough. We've got to get the job done. And so we're
putting pressure on the Senate as best we can. I'd ask your listeners to call their senators as well.
It's an issue. It's one of those 90-10 issues. Democrats and Republicans realize that
that benefits fly, airplane, drive a car. I mean, it's not racist to require a photo ID,
but people that don't want a photo ID or people that want to cheat. And so we've got to push it.
I'm hoping they go to the floor and do a voice filibuster and see how that goes. Can you imagine
them telling Americans who overwhelmingly agree it's okay that it's racist? Let them show the world
how ridiculous their party is. So I'm not sure how that's going to go, but I'm certainly pushing it.
And I don't know if you got time to talk about it, but I've been working really hard with
this administration, and we're bringing more support. I can't tell you over the radio what
that is that you can guess. I've been able to secure a lot of support to get out the votes,
get people to vote no on unfair maps. You know, I've been telling people whether they're
Republican or Democrat. Do you want to have a voice and who represents you, or do you want
some politician that you're never going to meet in northern Virginia chooses who represents you?
These are not fair maps. They're unfair maps. And when they say it's temporary, how is six
years temporary? So please help us get the word out to vote no. You can vote right now.
All of it till April 21st vote no to unfair maps. So I've got to ask you because you serve time in
the Virginia State House. How is it that this language, which is 180 degrees from the truth,
in other words, is very a deceptive language on the ballot? Who actually gets to decide the
language on the ballot? And why are we allowing such bias in the process?
You know, I wish I had more time. We could go over a whole bunch of things like that. You know,
the task well judge. Yes. He said that they violated our constitution at least six different ways.
And the Democrats enrichment who has the governor of the House and the Senate, you know,
bait and switch, you know, Spamberg Iran sent you to the moderate, but she's to the left of Omar
and in AOC. First thing to do is want to raise your taxes. That she's not Prageri Manor,
but now she's a governor. She's for it. But basically what they're saying is that if you don't
like what another state is doing, you can ignore our constitution. So why should we have a Virginia
State Constitution? I say the Virginia sovereignty of that state. And I think the Supreme Court
is putting this till after the referendum. And they're just going to say, well, the people have spoken.
So I would tell people that I believe in rule of law, we should follow our constitution,
but they're not. And whether we like it or not, get out and vote. Don't leave it up to the judges
because I don't think they're going to save us. We've got to get people out to vote. And the good
news is even though the Democrats are spending more money than us now, we have money coming.
We probably won't have as much of them, but even though we have not been on TV yet,
that I know of, all in still favors us voting. No, we can't count on that. So vote early and spend
every day, every moment, if you voted yet, have you voted yet? Have you voted yet? We won this
referendum in 2020 to have a non-partisan redistricting commission to let the people decide
not partisan politicians. And we can win it again because we can get out the vote.
We've got just about two minutes left with Congressman John McGuire,
Virginia Fifth District Representative. I did want to ask you, we've had a couple of significant
terror attacks. Thank God they didn't result in massive casualties. But where are we presently,
particularly with the partial shutdown, as far as keeping the homeland safe?
You know, it should be the number one priority. We passed 11 and 12 standing bills,
which I'm sure you know better than most. Important that is. And we had this bill got to the house
of the Democrats are playing politics and they're putting the American safety in danger.
And so this is the time, if we ever do it, it's past it. The Democrats, if they win the midterms,
they're going to go back to try to reopen the border and put dangerous criminals on the street.
We've been cleaning that up and getting rid of dangerous criminals. And so we've got to get that
pass. So keep putting pressure on your representatives. It's just crazy. So we, it's not just, I mean,
I have to have the funding they need. It's the hasn't been the cybersecurity stuff that would detect
these attacks. Those are the ones that get in their money. TSA, Coast Guard,
FEMA. It's ridiculous how they keep paying politics with the safety of the American people.
But on a positive note, I don't know, in your area, there's a church called Link Church.
Yes, the point. And yeah, so I got a phone call from Marcy Clifton. She's a retired sheriff deputy.
I'm excusing state trooper. I'm sorry, state trooper. And I got him Tom run it telling me that
there was 57 people in Israel that needed some help. But because I built relationships with
Marco Rubio and the State Department and PDXS and Department of War and a bunch of other people,
we made a bunch of phone calls and got them their help. They got through Egypt and they're all homes
safe. And I went to visit their church, the point church. Holy cow, what an amazing church. And you
can't always help people for when you can. It's pretty cool. Yeah, it was a remarkable story.
And I was following online because we know some of the people who are over there and we're very,
very grateful to God for getting them home safely. And thank you for sharing that with us.
John, we're almost out of time. But if people want to be in touch with you, tell us quickly how they can.
Sure. I've got a website. It's McWire.house.gov. You can come there. You can follow email.
McWire.house.gov. I could use your prayers and advice. It's an honor to represent all of you.
God bless you and God bless America. John McGuire, thanks so much for joining us once again on
the Showing Show. We look forward to next time. All right. Let's go to news and whether at the
bottom of the hour, then we shift gears. Our scientists in residence segment will continue as we
have a monthly meeting with Dirk knees and lots to talk about. So stay with the Showing Show.
Always an interesting time with Dirk. All right. The Showing Show continues on this
wild Wednesday edition of the program. Our scientists in residence, J. Dirk knees PhD,
a scientist author, executive director of the Floriancence Institute, and all around fascinating
individual who have just really enjoyed these segments because they're always kind of something
that no one else is talking about and a unique perspective. So Dirk, welcome back.
Thank you, Rob. It's great to be back here. The weather has gone from no Alaska to Fort
Lauderdale, Florida, here in central Virginia. It certainly has. We're going to start off by talking
about maple syrup. Now, I say that we've covered a lot of issues on this program over our 19 years
or so of existence, but never maple syrup. And you started out when you introduce this to me by
saying that we know more about black holes than we understand about the syrup and the sap and
everything, which it was just astounded. I had no idea. Yes. Well, we're living in a unique part
of the world, a part of the world where you can harvest maple sap and to make maple sugar,
maple syrup. And it has to do with the unique capabilities of the maple tree and also the
particular climate we have here where you can get above freezing during the day and then below
freezing at night. And as a little bit of background, maybe I could talk a little bit about how
a regular tree works. Yes, please. Okay. Well, first of all, imagine a hot summer day and you
have a large maple tree. Let's say it's a hundred years old. And how much water do you think it's
pulling out of the ground, bringing up to the leaves and releasing to the air every hour? Just
take a guess. A couple gallons? 50 gallons. Whoa. So it's like a fountain of water.
What's happening is that the leaves are trying to bring in carbon dioxide from the atmosphere
to make sugar. But in doing so, the little holes they have called stomata are letting water go
out. So it's creating a huge suction. It's like a, if you had a straw, the leaves are sucking the
water out of the ground and releasing it into the air. And one of the advantages, and this is
getting off topic, but I just would like our listeners to know, is that having more carbon
dioxide in the air is a great benefit to trees. Because it is trying to bring in carbon dioxide,
which is the carbon that we make sugar out of. But it has these holes, which can get bigger
or smaller, depending upon how thirsty they are. If they get really thirsty, they close down
because they don't want to lose all that 50 gallons of water, that there's only so much in the
ground. And so by having more carbon dioxide, they can get smaller to hold onto the water they
have, but still get enough carbon dioxide in to them to make food. So actually, the increase in
carbon dioxide that we've seen since the Industrial Revolution has been a great boon to plants that
use photosynthesis. And across the world, semi-arid areas are getting greener than they've
ever been before in my lifetime, because the plants can use the water better than they could before.
We should talk a little bit about the history and the origins of maple syrup. We get it out of a
bottle and a lot of us don't think about it. But someone had to come up with this idea.
Well, let me tell you how I got it. I had a tree in our backyard. A branch fell off
and a late winter. And it had a 12-inch long, high sickle hanging off of it. And I said,
wow, that looks cool. So I took it off and I started licking it. Wow, that's sweet.
It tastes sweet. And it was a kind, it's a box-older, but it's a type of maple tree.
And I believe the indigenous peoples of North America found that, discovered that this maple
sap could be a way to add a little bit of lovely sweetness to their, let's say, bland palette of
what's available. And what they had to do was you drill a hole and it's going through the sap
wood. And not all the other trees are doing it. It's only the maples, because remember I said that
it's the leaves that are pulling the water up. But this is before there are any leaves. So there's a,
it's the freezing and thawing, which is creating pressure in the sap wood. It's up to, let's say,
40 pounds per square inch, like a fully inflated tire. And that's what's driving the sap out of the
tree. And it's this unique capability that allows us to gather sap in a certain time before
the leaves actually do come out. Because when the leaves do come out of a maple tree, you can't get
this kind of maple sugar anymore. It switches back over to its kind of normal way of operating.
But anyway, it's very dilute. So you need to have ways of
concentrating it to make a syrup, which is what we're used to seeing. Help us to understand
the dilution of it and the concentration of it. Well, it starts out, starts out 98% water,
2% sugar. The product that we're used to is two-thirds sugar. So they've got to get rid of a lot
of water. And the Native Americans didn't have iron mongri. They didn't, they were working with
wood. So they had no way to heat a lot of maple sap. So they just dug out a tree,
they dropped hot rocks into the vat of collected sap and tried to boil it off that way
with hot rocks. But another way they did it was to just let it freeze overnight. And the ice on
top would be mostly water. They'd discard that, let it freeze again and discard the top and
eventually they would get a sap that was now like a syrup. So I've seen sap on trees before.
It's like a resin. This is usually golden tinge and all that. Is that what we're talking about?
No, we're not. Exactly. We don't want that. Okay. That's why you can't collect it after
the leaves start coming out because you're getting a much more complex mixture. This is almost a
unique mixture. What what maple trees are trying to do is get a head start on getting energy
from the roots, which they've stored all winter, back up to the little, you know, the top most part
of the tree so that the leaves that are just budding have this energy to make themselves, you know,
to grow. So it was a nature's way of getting this nutrient from where it had been stored all
winter up to the leaves. So, but it's still not well understood. You got cycling of the temperatures,
you've got this pressure of gases freezing and thawing, but you've also got to have sucrose
in the water itself. It's not a pump that works unless the sucrose is present. So there's a lot we
don't understand. That's why I said we, some ways, no more about a black hole than we know what's
going on. But what I find fascinating is that we live in this part of the world where I sort of
take it for granted, but Europe doesn't have it. South America doesn't have it. Not cold enough.
Also, it doesn't have the tree and it doesn't have the freezing and thawing cycle that we have in
early spring. So it's a unique combination. And here in Virginia, this coming weekend and the
following weekend, there is the Highland County, which is west of here, maple festival that your
listeners may want to look into. It's a lot of fun. I've taken the family there in the past.
And we had a great time seeing old, timey ways of making maple syrup and how it's collected from
the trees. And also there's the new technologies of reverse osmosis and the various other equipment
that they have. But you can buy maple flavored donuts and every kind of thing you can think of.
So I suggest that those who might want to venture out in a little bit and see what's going on
in like so-called Switzerland of Virginia. It's a wonderful thing to talk about and never gave
it as much consideration. I have great appreciation. The next time I have pancakes when I pour
the syrup on there, an actual maple syrup as opposed to the kind that just calls syrup that
really is nothing of the sort. You know, I really do appreciate it. It's a lot of work.
But the one thing I like about it is we normally get, let's say, sugar from
annual crops, like sugar beet or sugar cane. You can gather this sugar from a maple tree
for a hundred years and not injure the tree. So it is much less
intensive in terms of, you know, growing and raising it. And so, and we're only tapping about
less than a half a percent of the maple trees in here in Virginia.
Sounds like a great opportunity ahead. We've got one more segment. We're going to switch gears,
but I really appreciate that conversation. Dirk Nees is our guest and coming back on the other side.
We're going to pick up the conversation from last time on the Nees formulation. Stay with us.
It heading into the final segment of the shilling show for today's Wild Wednesday edition.
J. Dirk Nees is our guest, PhD scientist author. And the Nees formulation, which we talked about
last time, you've had some other discoveries and more observations about what it was. So let's go
back to that and then take it from there. Yes. Well, what I was working on was to refresh our
listeners was the idea that there must be information coming from outside of our universe
to be able to describe this universe. That's a paradigm shift. Most scientists think
we can explain the universe from within the universe. And what I said, okay, that's one way to
think of it, but I think we actually need to get out. We have to step outside the universe.
And what I found since we spoke last time is that there is information. There's energy coming in
all the time. The current paradigm is that the universe began with a big bang. And it's just been
inflating like a balloon or space has just been expanding. And it's sort of like a huge firecracker.
It goes up and then it displays and it kind of peters out. Well, I have come up with a different
way of looking at it. What I see is energy coming in all the time into a space which is not
stretchable. It's being built. So right now there is more space being built. It's not expanding in
the sense of just inflating. It's actually building. And by viewing things that way, we can begin
to answer questions that were previously puzzling for decades and decades such as dark matter
and dark energy. Those are not what people now think they are. There are the manifestation
of space being built. So it doesn't like there's some mysterious energy called dark energy.
No, that's not what's happening at all. And what I like to tell the listeners is to think about
sometimes we need to step outside the box. We have to move beyond our ordinary ways of thinking.
Einstein said, for example, that you can't solve a problem with the same mindset
that created the problem. So you're telling me that the science actually isn't settled.
The science is not settled. And one reason you know that is because for about a hundred years or more,
these two very powerful theories of quantum mechanics, which is typically focused on the very small
and general relativity, which is like gravity and the cosmos, they can't talk to each other.
They reach an impasse. There are two different ways of looking at the world. One is continuous,
one is discrete and analog individual and they just don't meet. And so what I've done
is create a way to bring those two together, but to my astonishment. And I'll tell you, I am
astonished. I know no longer need general relativity. And I don't need quantum mechanics.
But let me just give you an analogy if you can think of it this way regarding quantum mechanics.
Imagine you're playing a par five, par five golf bowl. Quantum mechanics is playing it blindfolded
in the dark. They've got a ball and they've got the driver. And they've got to hit it 10 to the
17 zeros times with somebody telling him, no, you're going wrong. No, go that way. Go that way. No.
It takes massive compute power to finally get it to the hole. With a knees formulation,
I already know where the hole is. And so it takes me maybe five shots to get it in the hole or get
it close enough to say, well, that's a gimmick. Okay. So it's a whole different way of thinking of
Einstein also said, God doesn't play dice. It makes sense. He didn't like quantum mechanics as it
was so kind of nebulous and statistical and uncertain and what have you. And with the formulation
that I've come up with, it just all falls into place. And so Thomas Coon, who some of your listeners
may have heard of, is a Harvard physicist. He's passed away now. But he was looking at how do
revolutions and science occur? And he said, the sort of the normal thinking is that they
go incrementally, step by step, you're making improvements and constantly seeing things a little
better and refining theories. But eventually he says, we reach a point where we just can't get
any further with that mindset. And he says, that's when it sort of flips over. Everything flips.
And there's a lot of hurrah and a lot of problems created by that. But he says, that's how we make
advances is by questioning, once you've reached the point of where we're not solving major problems,
we need to rethink the framework that we're using to try to solve the problems. And so I rethought
them. And I would say I'm now the first person in Thomas Coon's new paradigm, if you will, where
I've now have a new way of looking at the world. And I will be making this available as time moves
on. I'm a cautious fellow. I'm working through it in many ways. But I wish particularly for the young
listeners to know that question when they need to, the current paradigm, if you find that it's not
working. And in science, that's what I have done. And I've come up with something which is beyond
my wildest imagination. But I think it will prove, and it'll be tested, but I think it will prove
in the future to be the new way of thinking. It's a very exciting thing to contemplate. And I'm
sure we'll have much more to talk about as this develops.
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