The story behind ‘Tanvi the great’ | ft.Anupam Kher & Shubhangi Dutt

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Okay, Saira says, we've got the one we only for the third time. Actually not bad, I think we're

quite close, but it's not. No, this one I think is great for us, Rareep, you've played the show

by coming for the third time onto the show. Opin comes four times also. But let's also introduce

this lovely young lady. She is the one with the great Shobangi Dutt and launch film with him,

but already I'm sure there's a flicker and something else is there in the background.

Oh, you know, I'm just afraid by the computer. What we'll come to that, let's start with

sir firstly and tell me the great Amazon Prime third March space already released,

so please watch it and in 36 hours while we're recording this, it is reached number five and

closing your own number four. So as we speak. Thank you. First of all, I want to congratulate you,

you have improved your atmosphere, your you have reached a stage where I had to come at least

three, four minutes of walk and then reached your studio earlier the door used to open,

so I just praise Rita, but then I just told you to talk to me. You were so kind. Thank you.

So you're so dirty, you have no idea. I call Kudalya sir. I can't get three or four

missed calls. I'll be right back. You're the only person I called, not that I will not call

up, but I wanted to start with you because this is a film which sort of I was telling her,

I said, have you decided what you want to say? So she said, whatever you ask, I said, I said,

no, whatever you ask, you have to give answer. What do you want to say? That's true.

That's true. And if we are talking because we know each other a little bit extra, you can cut

in the middle. I don't think sir's presence, I thought I was, he had protocol, but I think

please feel free to say anything. No, I think it's it's it's a great feeling. The film and

it released did not do well. So everybody was a little low, but I was okay about it because

I said, it's okay, I have made a film, which has to reach to hearts rather than money,

so I was in the city of 37 rupees. So every time I go to the bus stop, I feel there's a setback,

I go back to the day I read the study from it makes me feel good. And plus this film in 36 hours

when I say it's reached number five spot, that speaks a lot. People have been wanting to

see the film and the kind of messages that we are getting. We got messages before the release

also because when we showed it to the president, it was very interesting that because a lot of

protocol is there and then she gets 30 seconds or two minutes with us. So I, I was told not to ask any

questions. So two minutes before the picture, two minutes ago, this was a unit. This is my wife.

So I said, I had to ask her, I said, Madam President, how will I know that you like the film?

So I looked back in the interval and she was there.

Yeah, we all kept looking at each other. And then she came back after the interval and she said,

you will know if I like the film. So the picture is over and she got up and she said,

clap and she looked at me and then she said, it's a very good film.

Very good, isn't it? Yeah, and then Chief of Army star, the film deal with Army,

this is the only film about peacetime in Army, autism and things like that and courage and hope.

You can't see this in the film, but you can't see the goodness in the film.

In reality show, you went to reality show?

Yes, I went there, I went there.

Obviously sir, I love that medium.

I'm here for a while. No, that's true.

I feel really great. I mean, not to show up. I'm showing everybody my gym group.

I'm telling them to call me. I'm telling them to call me.

Three times, I called them. Three times.

One girl is telling me, you're a lady not a girl.

I was going to call you and for three calls, you're not return.

But I didn't see those calls.

You're just shopping.

No, I don't worry about you, because...

But say, 11th, 14th, or 14th, that's how we communicate.

You slept at that time?

No, I wake up early.

Shufa, you won't understand. You won't understand.

You're very quickly.

You better worry about sleep early.

That's it. You just wait for the date to end.

That's good of it.

So enjoy when you're young and this part is the same and then after that you'll understand.

Sir, there's a misunderstanding.

I T-shirt man came and I thought my muscles were going to work.

I watched a bodybuilding video of yours.

Somebody showed up.

I was scared.

Sir, I think...

The sun also is now...

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I didn't have a lock in here.

How did you see my picture from your family?

Sir, do one thing.

It's my hat.

I can't believe it.

I kept it ready.

I'm on prime.

No, no.

Up to you.

No matter how much I watch it.

I watch all these movies, which are quality films, she watches all this.

Oh, I don't see any of them.

I don't want to compare mediums.

Everything is good.

People have different menus and different things they like.

Yes.

But she likes the slice of life quality films.

But I'm not afraid.

I must to put it like that.

Please bring it back to the topic.

Yes.

It is liked by almost everybody for two weeks and two three reasons.

One is that it does not look like any other film.

It's an original story based on my niece who's autistic.

Oh, it's her name was Tanvi.

Yes.

The last film I directed was Omja Jagdish.

That was somebody else's story.

Yeah.

Then I told myself, you know, if I make a picture, I'll make my own story.

Unless something comes out of myself.

So then we were in a wedding.

My brother's daughter Vindav was getting married.

And we were in Gurgaon and in like typical wedding.

Everybody was dancing, drinking, eating.

But this 13-year old niece of mine, her name is Tanvi.

She was near a place and she was looking at the cloud birds.

So I asked her, I said, Tanvi, what are you looking at me?

And she said, I'm looking at my world.

Now, it was easy for her to say that, but I could not decipher her world.

What is her world?

Oh.

And that's made me understand, Phil, that I want to make a film about an autistic girl.

Who is a superpower?

Because she sings amazingly.

Her answers are fantastic.

The only thing is her neurodivision.

Her mind works in a different manner.

She can't see the numbers.

So we made this film about an autistic girl.

And for six months, we did not tell her that she's doing the role.

I asked her the story, you want to say?

And a six months talk.

Yes.

But can I ask her the background?

Actor prepares his serve academy.

Which prepares you for acting.

But as usual, it's not that easy to actually get a role.

So, your story is very...

Wait, the Bollywood story also, because you are completely...

Yes.

So, you tell it.

Sir, Masterclass does it.

With all the students.

So, he does it in every two weeks.

Or sometimes, once a week, depending on...

It's scheduled.

Yeah.

And then, why...

And I was always thinking, I was like,

Cash, as you said, a Bollywood dream.

I'm going.

And if someone else comes to Masterclass,

then they will look at him, and tell him to take some debt.

So, I used to walk on it.

I used to...

It was in over my cartoon.

We used to see God-girls when I was young, right?

Please park you....

I would hit the big time.

It kicks you out.

And then, he did that Masterclass,

and he was recording.

And he is a very good story-teller.

So, obviously, when he started his own...

Or the exercise.

Is this something you guys think about?

Yes.

Yes.

Fabulous.

Of course.

Yeah.

I've seen.

Please watch that play.

I think you want to watch how to talk to an audience.

Yes.

He's a very good audience.

He's a very good audience.

No.

And listen and just relax performance.

I mean, you go there and then you come back thinking,

we do effort.

He's just so effortless.

And effortless is another art.

But that's for later.

Carry on, sorry.

Yes.

And then, sorry, exercise.

And he was recording.

Because the exercise is about that it's a rebirth of an actor.

You see, because every good thing starts from blank page.

You see, here, your table is completely blank.

There are three mics in it.

There's three cups in it.

There's a chest in it.

There's a chest in it.

There's a chest in it.

There's a chest in it.

There's a chest in it.

So I make them go through and exercise.

Where I put them back five years less,

your age, five years.

And then they are finally in their mother's womb.

And the mother's womb, they have to imagine they're either...

What is the expression of that child in your mother's womb?

And that I was shooting.

So they had their eyes closed.

Expression of the child?

What do you mean?

I mean, what do you?

Just like you're about the age of 20 years.

Oh!

So sweet.

Cut, just this much.

Cut, just this much.

So I say that I am 20 years old.

You think about it.

You think about it.

You think about it.

You think about it.

You think about it.

You think about the camera corner.

You think about your friend.

You think about the smell, the smell, the smell.

You think about it.

The camera studio.

After 15 years, when you were around here,

you thought about it.

What do you do when you were around here?

You have to step by step.

No, you have to imagine.

No, you have to.

Just shut your eyes and I'll be in the imagine.

And then finally say that you are just born.

And then I say now you're in a mother womb, which is the most secure place.

If not seen world.

If not seen anything.

What do you think your expression was when you were in your mother's womb?

And then they're almost reaching there.

And then I was taking it close up.

And then in my head I had nothing.

I was blank.

You know when you're in a class you have to be focused.

You have to be everything.

And then obviously I just imagine that if you're a child,

you have no worry in the world.

So my brain was not even going to stress.

Because my mind was thinking he's stressed.

So I was happy, excited.

At that time there was nothing.

And I think that's when sir stopped.

So she had blank.

She had no blank.

Also as an expression.

She had bliss on her face.

So I had 15-25 students.

I asked her to come to our scene.

I think I found my Tanvi.

So when she gave her something, she didn't do anything.

She said, this is what she wanted.

It has to start from scratch.

And then I used to give her...

Exercises.

Hormons and the whole team.

They used to keep sending me audition.

They used to send me small things.

They used to send me such things.

With no reference.

And I used to send them and I was...

And I used to always mention...

For example, like...

Like they used to just tell me that you...

This is for example an autistic or a challenged person.

Or even a blind person.

I mean different categories.

They used to be like this.

And from your interpretation.

Everything has to be your interpretation.

I used to do my research.

But I never told them.

But again, everything is different.

Everybody is different.

The way they put it, everything is different.

So I used to send my interpretation.

Very fast.

Because I knew that...

I used to send it for 55 minutes.

So I was very impressed.

They send me a lot of messages.

They are talking to each other.

But they are sending me.

The background is on budget, sir.

Really?

It is not compromise.

But it's the right thing.

Actually, in my brain,

I am sure they must have told this to...

All the shortlisted girls.

Maybe something is happening.

So I just want to see that first of all,

and see.

So at least,

yes, this is a girl.

Shebhangi is named.

And she is in her mind.

So I used to keep sending.

Because I remember,

Homan Savin said that we won't tell you.

But maybe there are few girls even in your class.

Another batch,

that are doing the same thing.

Or that are competing for the same thing.

So obviously, I was like,

this is a hit or a miss.

This is my make-up break.

And I have to have to...

Just go ahead.

If you are hungry,

then you just need to eat.

So that was in my head.

And I should just keep sending.

Will you share this to marketing and sales?

They need to feel this hunger.

They need to feel this hunger.

They need to feel this hunger.

Share your love.

But that...

So you had to feel that something is something.

Why would they...

Why would they...

Yes, yes.

And why?

And I was like,

this is something actually that they must be working on.

Because this is also very different from the bot-tipical

Bollywood movies that you expect.

Even I was in the market.

Okay, it's going to be...

If I ever get my first break, Hero Heroine,

the song behind the house is going on.

I'm running slow-mo.

And I can also be there.

So this was something different.

So I just knew I had to stand out of

how to just...

By proving that please consistency

and just like...

And I was going...

I was going to be there first.

Sometimes I was standing outside the class

and talking to the office.

I was like,

Oh, what's up?

How are you doing?

I'm being phased.

Frieza's kind of stuff.

You see, I also had no actual idea

how will Tanvi be like.

So it was thrown free.

Yeah, I mean, what is her body language going to be?

So when she was sending me,

so I used to say,

Okay, this is what she needs.

This is what she needs.

This is good.

This is more than necessary.

Because our Tanvi is normal.

It is just that her mind works in a different manner.

And in cinema,

it should be looking different.

So it was through her,

I was finally figuring out

how Tanvi should be physically

and how she should think.

Then after six months,

then we finally called her and

we said,

Oh, this is so...

In the background,

if she was trying to find out,

then she would have gone mad.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Because then,

when Homan says,

like, come,

so wants to meet you,

we need to have a chat.

And then I went and I was like,

and then,

and then,

he told me...

Academy, right?

Academy, right?

Academy.

Then Homan says,

like,

you will have to go off social media.

I said,

okay,

if you're doing any more project,

simultaneously,

add CDs or anything that's coming up,

you have to stop auditioning,

you have to stop doing anything else.

And I said,

so,

so much more market,

my stomach got Sigma.

And I was like,

so was there.

And, obviously,

his persona,

you can't, you know,

you have like discipline strength.

And I was like,

but,

am I doing it?

Like, so.

Like, you know,

I have a family and, you know,

I want to work and they said,

and then, he just looked at him

and they give this,

like, fill me,

look to each other.

And then, sir,

goes like,

you're doing it.

Hi, Hiran.

Hello, Hiran.

Nice to meet you.

Nice to meet you, Kidd very much.

You're doing it.

Yeah, and I was like, musty-carry, and I look at him and say,

he's like, mm-hmm.

Shanti, I mean, what is the name of the film?

Tanvi, the great.

Yes, yes, and I was like, Tanvi, the great.

And then I asked, I'm being Tanvi, title role.

I said, yeah.

And I said, it's up-bound to go.

Can I be number one to go?

Anything you say.

And I think that's when the journey started,

and that's when I went home.

But you were working also, right?

I was working also.

I was doing a lot of things.

You were in a proper job along the road.

Yeah, I was doing it marketing all so freelancing.

Everything.

Don't leave your marketing address.

Robo, care, call you, tell you what's happening.

I was doing modeling, I was doing marketing,

I was doing my Instagram, I was like, everything.

Just a joke, a joke, a joke, a joke.

I want to just keep going.

I don't want to stop.

And then she went to Assam to meet Tanvi.

The actual Tanvi, my niece.

And then she spent about 15 days.

And she's sending me from there.

And she took her book.

I'm taking my notebook, my pen, my camera.

I'll take it.

Yeah, I'll take it.

I'll take it.

You know what a pen is?

Yeah, of course.

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Wow, Akansha Pato,

Paying paper, something.

I was like, I'm ready to talk to you.

I was like, sir, what do I do here?

I'm like, what knows nothing?

Leave your book as I just observe.

Now, this is a deep, in-depth thing.

Observe, like, okay, sir, what do I observe?

Just observe her soul.

Deep, again, these are all very deep things.

It's so difficult to understand.

I didn't want to do when she gets fidgety.

When she says, when she says,

she's each of the same thing again.

And I start using it in her script.

And she starts, which is the obviously the case with her soul.

She's a happy girl.

She

can watch her celebrate.

No one can draw easily,

but she can then carve their mind towards her work.

If you are making music, then what I do is, if I am going to the market,

it will come to your mind, but it will come to your mind.

Then I think when we started, when she came and then we had a great team,

we had two Oscar winners, one music director is Amam Karin.

Once you go there, when you observed the real tournament,

how does it work? Because it's a very intangible product.

What is that?

Actually, I stopped observing her in the sense that I am doing her,

doing her as in doing a role based on her life,

but I just started admiring and observing her everyday routine.

Not when specifically she is doing something,

like if she is doing her classes, nothing just in her everyday usual life.

She didn't get upset with you being around all the time.

No, no, she didn't care.

And I think that's the beauty of autism.

Yeah, like no, okay, she's invading my personal space.

That's what I am.

Or when she's going out, she's on a swing, nothing, she doesn't care.

She was just so carefree, she was herself.

She didn't even care what she's doing, what she's speaking.

She was unfiltered.

And I think I started realizing that, okay, I think this is the beauty of her,

and I think this is what Sir wants me to do,

have nothing in your mind.

Don't think about what is going on around you, just be yourself.

And I just, I think that's what I've observed.

We interrupt the question.

And she's very entertaining.

It's very entertaining.

And she's a great admirer of Shahrukh Khan and Karanjahar.

She does toffee with Tanvi.

Oh, right.

And she's crazy for her.

So when I was 14 years old,

I had to tell you, share something very hilarious with you.

So finally, she was first time going for...

What is it called?

Vaccine.

First time.

So she said, you stay out.

I'm going inside.

So she's sitting outside.

So what is she talking about?

Shahrukh Khan.

Karanjahar.

The whole film is very entertaining.

She gets into the life of these four oldies,

kind of a thing.

Jackie, she's of me, Bamanirani,

and Arvind Swami.

And she changes their life.

And I think she's remarkable.

It's very good.

And I also asked, one's that,

why is movies named Tanvita great?

He's like, when you meet her, you'll know.

You'll understand.

You'll realize what I'm talking about.

And when I left, I was crying.

I thought that I'm actually leaving my own sister and going back.

Even her parents, her siblings, I think,

even in those 15 days, I got so attached

because it was just so beautiful and pure.

You know, away from the hustle bustle,

the Mumbai life, the people, and Mumbai,

if it's...

Kashwiri Khanah?

Yeah.

Khanat.

Khanat.

Don't talk about food.

This is Mahir.

Wow.

Beautiful.

Mahir.

There's a single lady.

Let me introduce her to her.

A single gentleman who's a cook.

Khanat.

Bacha.

You like Khanat, right?

Wow.

Don't judge by sketch.

No.

It was in India.

Many years.

Just post Mangal Pandey.

Just the first one with Pakistan.

Yeah.

Because, you know, after obviously movie and everything

and Sir hangs out with all the top-notch people

and I was not used to it.

Sir, there was always a strong grief.

You'll get to eat food.

But we're going to eat only food.

Because I came across people who make such tasty food

in their house.

So, I used to eat something at home.

I was like, I'll eat there.

But my face is very expressive.

So, even if I see food and if I'm hungry,

you'll know that I'm talking to you.

But my eye, everything is there.

I'm drooling.

You'll see that.

I've never seen a young girl.

In today's time,

so mad about food.

Now, I pick up her eyes.

So, on the phone,

tell my assistant to make an omelette sandwich.

You make the best.

What do you hear?

He was hungry at that time.

I'm not hungry.

No, I'm not hungry.

Sir, I've given you an instruction.

I'm going to reach you.

We're going to the road.

We'll get you in 15 minutes.

I'll eat you in the car.

Please, please, please.

Because his assistant makes the best avocado toast.

He makes the best omelette, half fried, everything.

And I mean, why not?

Even the hormones are okay.

I mean, it's a very tasty food.

When he invited us once,

he had made some conkeny food.

And he's just not stopping talking.

Okay, sir.

Hey, you're making me up.

Sorry, I'm just...

I'm just...

Please, please, don't worry.

Sir, thank you.

It's an art.

Don't worry about his face.

You must have made it.

No, no, no.

No, no, no.

We're going to eat you.

And he's sitting on the other side.

But it's so...

Let's just eat.

I mean, it's a table.

You're sitting on the table.

It's like this.

But it's so delicious.

You just want to be alone.

Look at this term.

Yeah.

She...

You can be talking about

Kuhinur's diamond hill.

No, he...

He...

He's a...

He's a millionaire.

Oh, he's a millionaire.

I like everything.

Except my dad.

A piece?

Yeah.

Why?

Neither does America.

It's a movie.

I think the beauty of Tanvi...

Sorry, shift to that.

Because by...

When you see the film,

you start having faith in goodness.

Oh.

In today's time, everything is mixed with panicky.

And you are on the verge of getting upset, angry, depressed.

Because the social media is full of...

You see, I will see, watching somebody's real.

Because the social media...

I don't think I know my name.

But this is the beginning.

So, it's like this.

And what am I going to eat?

What am I going to do?

I don't want to do what I want to do in my life.

And walks in.

Before this also,

many years back, I used to work with Dilquist Special School.

School for Mentally Challenge Children.

So, where I met...

I called Rishi.

I used to take this Samo Sahas,

pastries every...

For one year or every Wednesday,

I used to teach there for two hours.

I used to teach speech therapy.

It was the most beautiful time of my life.

This was when I was very active in movies.

Because while I'll take with me goodies,

this Rishi will eat it,

but with a little bit of resentment.

So, I asked his teacher,

why does he not sort of feel very happy like that?

He said because he thinks,

I think...

His mother said,

I think he has not given you anything.

So, he said,

he said,

he said,

I think he said,

he said,

he said,

and he was throughout the class,

he was having a kind of silent bonding with me

and that class would end in that class.

So, what's the point of doing that?

That class,

he came very excited and he came to me

put his hands in his pocket and he took out a toffee and he said this is for you and

the next intense was don't eat it it will finish and then for 15 20 years the toffee was

in my refrigerator so I think it changed my perspective towards people we thought

here normal look to he he seems to us that we are behind so many normal people

manipulation he is not there who will give you the tea he will give him also he

and go be because they have no hierarchy in their mind and they say what they

want to say when you see the film and now that we've started getting messages

from and before that also before that Mr. De Niro came and watch the film yeah I

saw some we had a tick-tock pay with you and I'm talking yeah at some awards

function yes yes yes yes yes he came for 10 minutes and he stayed till

until I did the I was shocked New York Film Festival with his wife no so I

sent a message to him and he said I don't know I don't know let me see so

then is when the everybody was coming the guest was coming suddenly I get a call

from his wife we are on our way so I said it's very fond of me he's a great

friend in that sense so then he came and he said 10 minutes and he's very

shy like picture pictures so he took a picture and then he stayed till the

interval because his wife said which he was crying and then we sent then he

said can you send me the whole picture because it's it's into I would like to

say and then we sent him the whole picture now every day I'm waiting

he actually I think he can make me suddenly how we were promoting the film in

Delhi we were going from Bombay up na Delhi to Noida suddenly message I

think he will talk to you in 10 minutes I want to do it yeah I think you're

going to have a meeting here but I'm going to sit here and I'm going to phone

on here phone I own car said very good on a very good I like I like the

interpretation it's a good good film it's a feel good film and this is she was

how am I? I'll speak her way yeah he's a terrific wall seat so can you do it

day or again no so I think that these are the kind of things that you sort of

can then we shouldn't be filmed to 20,000 students

them now I guess students and Davies school case students so I kept going and

going and going and everything they obviously she was feeling a little low

because on box office the same day reaction the reaction the same day so

I'm out of the path I love the long one but then it's like a picture release

which is a good sign I don't know how many pictures I actually

used to have a film I don't know but what I did I re-release the film and

film now is in limited theaters in 23 weeks in two weeks I'll have a silver

Jubilee that is that is the magic of being unbelievably optimistic also

like some sort of these films take some time

I'm out of my way I say it gets a little more

I get the parents go how many parents today is one

me a parent message I was so worried about my daughter but now I'm not

worried about her because you have projected her as a super power and then

she fulfills her father's dream because father could not he was in the army

could not salute the Thiranga on siachan border unfortunately whatever

happened in his life so she goes and tells her grandfather she can't even

cross the threshold of the of the door and she's a man who decided that I

would join the army you know you can cross the chocolate and then it is a

single mindedness of this girl she goes and joins an academy tell the

money she's funny she says I'll show you now I say so it's it's not a

jingo stick kind of thing you feel you move for her

and then how she reaches in the end but you tell us about the other actors also

you all these legends and names is mentioned of course him

first of all Baman was very sweet to work with us on the script also

and because in Album J have a huge friendship

yes or often sir Khusa Khusa I remember can't be we want

not fun people what fun what why like all the tours you know we did London we

did New York I remember even in London we used to wake up early because they

were early risers and now Baman so took us subco breakfast pay and then to

amuse the door guy yes yes yes too much fun Jackie sir what a

lot why one said very nice what a human being actually so cool

famous word I can't use it now because caught us to put us to order what

has been we are using we are using so often yeah we can't use it

but in Swami I've been Swami sir Pallavi mom she was so warm and nice she was

actually like my mother on set so Pallavi is the mother at these three and I'm

the grandfather the grandfather Jackie Schroff is the chief of army the army had

quarter make command in okay Baman is the music teacher and we got Ian Glenn

I am getting your note also yeah this is the game of

from what is he play he plays the person who is conducting a workshop in New

York where Pallavi has to go and leave with me because she is attending this

workshop of this guy has come up with a different way of how to the tagline of

a film about a different but no less so he's working there so I was thinking

who who who who so many I had worked with Ian Glenn in a series in the BBC

series and I wrote to him and he loved the script and he said I'll do it so he came here

for four days and five days and then he did that so a current attacker a

current attacker is otherwise a young actor but he plays a father who dies early

attacker a attacker a lot of the car is a very popular

you know what is the attacker what okay

so she was around she in fact came up with a very interesting simile one day

that it seems that I am surrounded with lines I feel like a cup surrounded by

lines yeah because every my first shot with everybody I should just be like wow

I was so mesmerized I mean they were also they were all they can be

police the box each other but I don't know what they're still for the love of

me I have we have been such great friends they really really did this film for

my they're because they love me and then they love the script because Jackie

so I was crying because I was very involved in things like that he also started

had tears he said this is his dialogue his dialogue cannot be without what he says

you guys go below I don't want trouble me so he said I have to be there can you repeat

the dialogue I don't have a trophy but I have holes oh wow but I'll eat this yeah

I'm not that special taking a break coming back to me the great it's out on

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back here alupam ke legend i don't like to be called legend

okay not legend great joe t why not legend i know there's no

sky uh

You think you will do 5-50 movies?

Realistically, I don't think so.

There is a possibility.

One minute.

One minute.

He has touched it.

He has touched it.

But legend or not,

Arubankar, everybody knows,

leading light in the business

and introducing Shobange.

So please watch the film.

Great experience.

Being with all these people,

we are getting this canvas as your first picture.

Yeah, very much.

Because it's all quality performers.

If you see the list of names is given,

you can see somebody from a game of thrones.

Yeah.

100%.

So, Poco-T is on the side.

I'm having a name.

And the master's.

The master's.

The master's.

The cinematography.

Teacher Nakahara.

She's amazing.

Very sweet.

It looks like a fairy tale,

but realistically,

and then we shot in Lansdown,

and army was on board with us.

Because I went to the chief of army

and I told him,

we had to get the script approved.

And I said, I want to shoot in Lansdown.

Because my childhood memories are of Simla.

It is a Himashal.

No, Lansdown isn't there at all.

And my childhood memories

are through those trees,

going that light falling.

Because childhood memories

we remember.

After that,

we remember the rest of our lives.

Do you know my childhood memories?

No.

I don't know which is the name.

No, I don't know.

No, I don't know what you are going to think of,

but of course I don't know.

Traffic.

Pollution.

Portholes.

Honking.

No.

Beautiful paid and roasting,

each made all that.

There's no way anybody seen this picture.

It only was a little bit.

It's like, I know.

Completely chained.

And the other hand was on board,

we got a substitute from them.

So, I think,

Every time I'm very fascinated by Army, because western command headquarters was in Shimbla.

I used to see these army officers and I always wanted to do something with Army.

This is basically about...ironically, an Indian Army, an autistic person can not join.

That's what I want to ask you.

Yes, no, no, no, no.

You see the film, we won't give away if all this...

That we had the stick to the thing and we met these amazing officers every night we used to meet somebody who still call and kind of

Stories of siatchin stories of their life stories of this thing. It was such an educational kind of feeling

So a lands down place a very important role in the film and the cadets were real cadets and the cadets who in the

See them also. Yeah. Yeah, she trains with them. Argon saw me is the trainer who trains her

Okay, because he was her father's friend and her

Search is was my father brave or not because why wasn't he given

Parambi Chakra or Shorya Chakra because she goes with her grandfather to

To one of these functions where family members of people officers who were given Parambi Chakra and she's waiting

She made a father come in amling and she asked Jackie Shoff who is the commander of this is

Why is not my father given this thing because he says

That is why so the whole thing is about that in our own manner, and she's funny very funny she tells her grandfather

Chalu me to go to the door. Yeah, and she doesn't like to be corrected. Oh, it's not at all

I mean only then I'm wrong sometimes that she has to admit that she's wrong

But nobody even my brothers like that

It's a new me show room in any way I'm always I'm a part of the mark my dad is a

I got to sleep or equipment

I have two pt's and we have that bitch.

Who pulls out, leave the room.

A bitch.

They say that bitch.

The mother was breaking stuff and lying on the floor.

The person who was sitting on the floor,

I am sure it was a good review stage.

The front is very...

Roll dial stories if you read.

Is that a holo?

I mean, the bell.

So, as I was looking at the photographer, she was also from Japan, her aesthetic sense was different.

So, it felt good.

How did you choose the cinema dog for a long time?

I wanted, because our lead actress is leading actress's girl, it's about a girl.

I wanted a sensitive person, so I did some research.

She had done one film over here, so I reached out to her.

That's a great story, I must tell her.

I must tell you this.

She started to take a look at her, and she was in Japan, and I said I'm doing a film.

She said I'm not interested, because I can't do a film right now.

And she put the phone.

Then I took another cinematographer.

I thought I was going to film her, but she was taking a shower.

Oh, that's a rat!

I said, I don't want this set.

I said, I don't want this set.

I said, we are dealing with sensitive issues.

Nobody will shout, nobody will scream.

Because all the shooting days, she was like Tanvi.

She will eat like her, she will stay like her.

So then one day I called her up, gave her three missed calls.

And after about two or three hours, she called me up.

She said, what is the story?

This is about after three or four months.

What is the story of your film?

So I said, it's about an autistic girl who, according to me, is a superpower.

She said, I'm doing a film.

I said, it's not that bad.

Then I said, thank you, thank you, thank you.

Then we were in a location hunting.

And I one day, we were having tea.

I said, Kiko, tell me now, how did you agree with me?

She said, you will, when you first time called me, I was nine months pregnant.

So when I had called her up, she said, I was in no position.

I knew that I will not be able to work with you.

And when you called me the second time, my child was three months old, son.

So I had gone to my doctor, my sister said, this is a child.

Why don't you see him in your eyes?

Hello, hello, hello.

So I went to my doctor.

A doctor told him that your son is autistic.

And when you told me on the phone that you are making a film about an autistic person who is a superpower,

I did not even want to know that.

Seriously.

And he did not turn out to be autistic.

Oh.

Well, he has some issues, little bit of.

But he's very, very sweet child.

So there was an impression.

Yeah.

He clicked.

Correct.

So in that way, how did he shoot him?

He was very soft-poken.

So I had to have a lady photographer over here also.

But I think because of her sensitivity, cultural sensitivity which they have inherent,

she shot the film very, very well.

And they were standing instructions.

We had to shoot them all.

I was in the island.

I was in the phone.

Yes, I was in the island.

No one told me that.

Even in the morning, you scared all the artists.

That's right.

And after that, it was death's sequence.

I mean, the board is completely different.

Right, right, right, too.

So you were in the evening.

Like a can.

Yes, yes, yes.

Oh, sorry.

So, you were, you were.

So, this is also the same village.

I'm sure.

The same village in Kiddler.

You said, Resulver is very close.

No.

Resulver is also powerful.

He has designed the sound.

Amazing design is done.

Mr. Kira, we should be recorded all the songs before the film was to be shot.

Kausar Munir, Ruddhidar, Lyrics.

So, all the songs were done.

And then we shot them.

And we brought everybody's families to the set.

Lands down.

My parents came.

My brother came.

My brother came.

My brother came.

My mom's family came.

We had a good, amazing time.

So, according to me, these were the four richest years of my life.

I will say.

Four years.

I have a story with my friends.

My two writers, Abhishek Dixit and Ankur Shuman.

From advertising, we were sitting there.

I was writing in Goa.

My joy, the joy this film has given me,

nothing can change that in my being.

The about this film did to me.

I know it's on Amazon Prime.

Yes.

So, everybody gets to watch it.

I would have just heard Resulver's song.

Because not that he doesn't deserve.

Oscar Joe is here and we are all proud.

He deserves it.

But he used to work in MTV.

This is his first job with me in the 90s.

Oh wow.

Everybody had a story.

So, he was okay.

We had come here the first time.

And we were told that we are not pressured.

We are pressured.

Please be careful.

Don't push it off.

You won't say enough.

This is a great amount of work.

We are shooting on two chairs.

And it's a little outdoor in June.

And he's like this.

I don't know what he's doing.

He's just distracting.

And he's just moving from my eyes.

And he's moving all the time.

So, I'm trying to look at him because he's in my eye view.

And I'm going to watch him start answering the questions.

No, no, no.

The question is, can you plot it?

Oh, you know what's all about?

The Great Barrettons starts.

He's done a full five minute monologue.

Cut!

I looked at him as a person to see he was getting angry.

and for a second it was flicker thought

But his voice very dignified so couldn't say anything

and then this man comes up

and points to the Osman and says

Krav

Krav

Sorry my friend

This is paid for

It's difficult to see

I mean you can't even see a black smegis

But for his, he was so fantastic

You know he stopped Mr. Bachinda's second

I mean, we did that take it was a short answer.

Yes.

I mean, it was a short answer.

I have to tell the story about Shakti Samanda.

Great films he has made, Aradna and everything.

So, he had his cameraman had an assistant, Koglu Dha.

Koglu was a very animated kind of a person.

So, he was shooting suddenly a bird came and sat down on the window sill.

So, Shakti Dha went to the court.

You know what he did, this Koglu Dha.

He took out his meter.

Oh, my God!

Oh, my God!

Oh!

You are a professional, sir.

I mean, I saw that.

So, I thought it was fine.

But, yes.

Also, I think, my mother, who is an internet sensation.

Yesterday, I asked her, I said,

I am making her say lines.

I see.

So, I said, our picture, Amazon Prime is coming.

I was also wanting to plug the film.

So, what are you saying?

Two words.

I said, Amazon Prime.

Oh, my God!

She is a little deaf.

So, she thinks she has said it.

Then, finally, she said that.

So, I told her,

Why do you think the picture should be seen?

The crazy people who will not see it.

I am going to put that.

So, I think she wanted to see things that she has done.

She has done it like she has done it.

Like she has done it.

Oh, what a...

I believe it.

Yeah.

When we used to go to the premier,

or when we used to go to any screening,

even including that chief of army,

or we went to ensure it to 2000 students of India,

then, first, we used to have photos together.

Because, some girl is with them.

So, we used to have photos with them.

We used to leave the picture.

That's a good sign.

Also, it means that there are male photographers.

I mean, let's be honest.

No, she went to other day to the Jammana Bhai school.

Yeah.

The screening that was happening in Jufu,

all the Jammana Bhai kids.

Yeah, well made up.

Yeah.

But, I didn't study in Jammana Bhai.

And, we went there.

So, I thought,

it's a...

It's a...

Jatya, Jassimil there.

You know, there's a question answers and all.

And, it was morning time.

And, we are going to...

As soon as we entered the cinema hall,

the crowd just like...

They just started screaming.

And, they started cheering.

Tanvi, Tanvi.

My eyes...

It's anyway small.

It became acid to body.

Body, body, body.

And, I was like...

My mouth was just open.

And, I was like...

Oh, my God.

They were just like...

Tanvi, Tanvi.

I think I was the best response I have witnessed in the promotion.

The best validation.

I think that's why I said the stage was still in the question.

I was like...

They were just like...

You know, they...

They just bounced on the stage.

Bad use of phrase.

But, I understood what you were saying.

They were like...

What were the incidents in the while shooting?

Since you're the newcomer.

And, these are all legendary performers with lots of experience.

Some was...

He's an amazing teacher.

But, he's also very strict on set.

So, obviously, the only time I could little bit be myself

was in my vanity.

With my...

Team.

And, luckily, even they became my friends.

Because, everybody in this film,

the nicest people have come across.

Like, the other family that I never had.

Like, my film family.

And, obviously, you know,

because, sir, as soon as they were out,

they were all scared.

Because...

Did he?

Certainly.

I was focused.

Yeah, he was focused.

And, he also had a valid point.

Because, everybody, like you said, are veterans.

And, I'm a newcomer.

So, I was like...

Don't get carried away.

They'll do it like this.

And, you will take time.

You're doing, like, a very character-oriented role.

So, you have to eat, breathe, talk.

I mean, sir, I'll do something else.

I'll see.

Being a character.

No, no.

I was talking about something else.

But, but...

So, you're still...

You're still...

Yes, I'm sorry.

Yes, I'm sorry.

Let me just tell you.

Oh!

Sir, he's the highest-paid actress in the film.

Wow!

Yeah.

Personally.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's why, I'd also like to read so much.

The way our focus is.

Like, the first film with the last movie, you know what she's already thinking.

She's thinking all her friends will think it would be so much money.

And, she's the best.

Yeah.

You know what, boys should be thinking.

So, you know, our...

He's a high-stitcher, so when our...

Funders were out there, producer was moving.

So, if we'll make a film.

Yeah.

My biggest dissing was getting a film.

But, so, it was just a way of coming.

Because I had moments where I used to be like,

okay, it's challenging, you hope I can, you hope I can.

But the way is to come and motivate.

What's the name of the film?

No, like while we are shooting.

Yes, yes, and even in the van, are you prepared today?

Yes, relax.

Just focus.

Because he always told me your biggest strength

and your biggest weakness can be focus.

The minute you focus, he can conquer the world.

And I will carry that for the rest of my life.

But even on set, just say, if I'm shooting with anybody

and you know, you're bound to get intimidated

because they are, they've done so many films.

They are like, they're acting when he's a driver.

And he has to be like, what's the name of the film?

I said, Tanvi, the great.

Who's playing Tanvi?

I'm playing Tanvi.

What's your name?

This is like a box.

Yes, it's a box.

Yes, yes.

And then you'll have to listen to fantastic songs.

Yes, yes.

Every shot.

Once, once, once.

Once, not once.

They're opposite.

So, you've got to understand.

And with my mother, I used to love and so,

used to be like, amazing.

Because he's also very expressive.

And he's, he's obviously directing

with his heart, passion, everything.

And he's like, very good.

It was fun.

Next shot.

And first two takes.

When, when, like, if you change your angles,

then you take, take, take, take.

And I was like, take your next next.

And I just like, no, no.

I don't think so.

He's happy.

So, I used to go to the writers' work.

And because they were also my, they also, they

were my friends.

This is a cue, right?

This is actually a cue.

We say that the director doesn't like it.

This is a cue.

This is a cue.

Just from the tone and the word.

Yes.

So, I was just happy.

I was a fantastic, super, well-dancing woman on.

Yes.

One, Jackie was the one who was in the scene.

But I was an important scene.

Yes.

It was getting dark.

So, the guy was there.

I asked, let's go and see the angle.

I said, OK, very good.

It seems that he's fantastic.

Very good.

So, I went to the writers' work.

And I was like, sir, this is not fair.

I want to say, so, please, we're not happy with the short.

Because I think he's not happy with the short.

And I'll do it again.

I promise.

Then, so, you can go to the actors and go and say.

You can go from a guy's work.

But I got emotional and started crying.

I was like, can I please do it one more time?

Sir, I promise I will do it.

Like I was up as they said.

And then I did.

Japtak sir, actually, even if he was exhausted,

Japtak, he must have ended up like,

okay, actually very good.

We just needed that shot.

That one shot.

I remember the shot.

Yeah, yeah.

And then I was like,

I'm so suck at you man.

Peacefully, Radha.

I don't know, I have worked with sir.

No, I didn't know that.

What was the picture?

Yes, shockings.

Yes, shockings.

They could have known.

Shockings.

No, they had to change it.

What did you know?

They had to change the shockings, okay, as a picture.

We shot in Mauritius.

Yeah, yeah.

On the plane with him, we sat together.

He kept me in splits for the whole play.

But I watched him work.

You see, sir, that's the good thing.

Yeah.

And of course, a role which is very easy for us.

I mean, not much for him to do.

He just, so he would talk to me,

director will say, okay, we're ready.

I don't know, I'm sorry, we're ready.

Action.

Literally in five seconds, he switched all off.

Yeah.

Amazing.

Yeah, that just experience.

This is the money, sir.

Good for making money.

This is how to do it.

What are you doing?

You will take time, as it is your enamored by working

with these people.

But I think hats off to all four of five of them.

They were so loving, they were so encouraging.

I mean, he was a very good kid.

They were genuinely, I think I was very lucky to have them

on the sets.

Amazing, amazing.

There is so much one can learn.

He is a giver, he loves you.

He loves you.

Yeah, he loves you.

Erwin Swami does not describe, but I know that he loves me.

Jai Kishov, oh my god, beautiful.

Pallavi Joshi had worked within two, three films

and lately Kashmir files and everything.

She was so good.

I had gone to five, six big heroines of that little age,

this thing.

And they sum up that that Mambi main role.

I'll say that politically, sir.

Oh, yeah, we were right over Kajo.

So, he said, we are, we want to enroll Garnath.

We are still getting main roles in series and things like that.

So, I suddenly, I had heard a story of Pallavi,

and she said, I am doing it.

Don't worry, it's a beautiful role.

And she was so good in it.

So, so amazing in it.

And those NCC edits.

Yeah.

NCC.

Yeah.

Go, go, go, go, sing.

Go, go, go, sing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

In the office, man.

National cadet scoped.

No.

National cadet scoped.

Uh huh.

Uh huh.

In the tunnel.

We had a bad look at the bad luck box.

Like, is Wendy, uh, Andy.

National defense.

Oh, any of you.

NCC, where did you hide?

I was in the loop.

Yeah.

I was in it.

Yeah.

I wrote a content question.

I wrote in 1987, rupees, if you die that's free.

I spent the entire day with that.

I wrote it in the same place.

Oh, my dad, sir.

Finally, I had such a success for you.

No, he's the one in your heart.

Ha ha.

We are here.

Brother!

But, really?

It's C. We had to do in school and all that.

And you had to sign up on time.

You had to contact me.

You had to dial the bottle.

Because we are the next form of defense.

Yeah.

Oh God.

And then, in the last minute...

In my office, I did the ID card and I had a small size.

I had a small size.

In the photo of the hero.

Yes.

He was eating the HANCC.

Wow!

We did everything in the dressing room.

We did everything in the dressing room.

In case, we were in the dressing room.

Whatever.

We are the last lot.

As you go through the lot, being main army.

After that, there are home cards.

Then, NCC.

In that chapter, I was born in 1971.

I was 16 years old.

I came to a college in my age.

But, before that, my film is...

Amazon Prime.

Amazon Prime!

My start already released.

Please watch it.

It will be the grade for everybody.

Every single member of the family can watch it together.

So, NCC.

Thank you.

NCC has already given that lecture from Zor.

And, I liked it very much.

I thought that I was so thin that I could see through a queue with both my eyes.

I was so thin.

I got food and I had to send the car.

No.

But, the channel and the major giveaway speech in the country are the most important to the people around the world.

I just got out of the car.

So, I got out of the car.

I got out my car.

I got out.

So, I got out of the car.

Are you sure?

I mean, I had to go there in the black donation campaign.

We took them to the hospital in the municipal corporation.

And they had to give them 330 CCs.

And we had to get them on the 12th of November and get them on the 12th of November.

On the 12th of November, in 1971, a girl who was born was killed.

So, I gave them the blood and I didn't get them on the 12th of November.

I was forced to get them on the 12th of November.

What are you saying?

Yes, I was forced to get them on the 12th of November.

I had to get them back on the 5th of November.

This is the 12th of November.

I was doing it.

No, I got 12 rupees.

I got this thing.

I think that's what was the stance towards armed forces.

I think this is...

But when you shoot at an NDF, you went to an NDN shot.

Maybe two days actually.

And I was getting very fast out of it.

This is great.

You get inspired because you're the senior officer.

The new guys were all finished. They were standing around finished.

But the officers were big, manly guys talking in a certain way.

4, 22, 17, we'll see what the gym is.

You know, that's all.

So, I love the whole thing.

Then, continue.

Continue lunch for seven minutes.

Seven minutes?

Seven minutes?

You came with us?

Yes, I was there.

Seven minutes. What will happen next?

What's the next thing?

So, vegetarian?

Normally, it's only two times a week.

I don't think so.

Air Pakistan attacks.

I will be the first to die for the country.

Whatever, eat lunch there.

That's it.

We had two thousand students who watched the film.

So, they say that...

Just don't react.

So, we went inside.

The silence was going on in the morning.

Two thousand candidates 18-19 years old.

And then, I said no, sir.

You have to tell them that if they like the film,

they should be allowed to clap.

So, come on.

Instead, that...

If you like it.

They gave us four minute standing ovation.

Wow.

And it's not very nice, but...

Order.

Order.

Yes, yes.

Yes, synchronize.

Yes, synchronize.

Disappear.

Disappear.

Even for the forty point.

We had some great time.

And that's why I think it feels so good

that it has reached the right platform.

Because Amazon is a platform.

It will take it to 240 countries.

We are getting messages from Australia,

from US, from UK.

And how people are loving it.

And on its own.

By the time, I think, hopefully, we finish this conversation.

As you said, it may go to number four.

Four.

And further up the ladder.

Yes.

Down the ladder, up the ladder.

Up the ladder.

Up the ladder.

Up the ladder.

To the top.

Basically, to the top.

Remember, the show is called,

It's a film.

Already available.

Amazon Prime.

We have said it many times.

Yes.

If you want to call it,

Amazon Prime.

And watch it.

It's a labour of love.

Launched a very, very promising,

not promising.

Promising is when you're not launched.

She's already launched.

Going to hear a lot about this girl

who will give us trouble to come back now.

Not at all.

I love it.

There is a phone call.

There will be a good comeback.

I can't.

I've been seeing you since Cupsay,

MTV Bakhran.

I've got the sound like some people.

Cupsay, Bola, Bachman, Zeni, Bola.

Yes.

They say things like that.

But I want to ask you one.

Yes.

Yes.

How do you do it?

How do you?

How do you, in the last so many years,

have retained your sense of humor?

No, it's not.

It's a horrible place.

Please don't come to South Mumbai.

Please avoid it.

Basically, you can go ahead and come back.

But don't come to us outside.

This is a waste of time.

Really.

Today, I've been running for two days.

One was with me.

One was with me.

One was with me.

One was with me.

One was with me.

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One was with me.

One was with me.

One was with me.

One was with me.

One was with me.

I am hoping for Padma Shriya at some point I have applied, I am sure you should get it right.

It so has.

I am sure.

Don't compare this to me.

Yes.

Padma Shri Padma Bhushra National.

What is it?

It is nothing.

It is nothing.

It is nothing.

It is nothing.

It is nothing.

It is nothing.

Padma Shriya and Padma Shriya.

It is just cooked.

I know we are running out of time to people.

What is we?

You have one best actress.

Yes.

I know these big resticles in India.

Australia.

Australia.

International investment of Australia.

And these are neutral festivals.

Yeah.

You can't do nothing.

Yeah.

Look at the film.

They like it.

They give you the prize.

She went to Australia.

She went to Melbourne.

She went to Melbourne.

Yes.

We are the top five films of the year on IMDB.

We have a great rating on IMDB also.

One, we have 9.1 on book my show.

So it's...

This film gave me a lot.

I got it.

You go to travel.

You go to meet all these famous people.

Yes.

I have a great launch pad.

It's your movie.

It's your movie.

Yeah.

You are back.

So in the next 10 years, you will have two items.

And all that.

I will be very angry.

No.

Sir, what launch pad?

I mean, you are...

It's the same thing that you are going to have.

Yeah.

No.

Because...

As I said before, my first film was so dangerous.

Yes.

I was 28 and played.

I didn't see it.

But she's very good.

She got to dance in the film.

Yeah.

She got to be glamorous in the film.

She sang a song in front of God.

She sang a song for the army.

So...

Your old voice or...

I wish.

No.

Don't ask her to sing.

I can sing.

I can sing.

No, no, no.

I can sing.

No, no, no.

She is stupid.

She is told M.M. Kira one is her.

And she sang in front of her.

I liked her.

He liked her.

He liked her.

But who?

Hindi song name?

Because of rights.

Anything else?

Happy birthday.

Yeah.

I can sing happy birthday to you.

Happy birthday to you, Cyrus.

Very nice.

When is your birthday?

Actually, sing one in a recording.

In some very old voice.

When a little boy is coming over.

Don't tell him some old man.

But when he lives with his mother.

Don't come to his house and sing happy birthday.

I mean, come on, yeah.

Our time is up for...

Our time is up for being good to us.

We can already meet at the hour of your marriage.

It's our day.

Yeah.

You can already meet at the hour of your marriage.

And we have the number of ups and downs.

Ah, in shower.

In shower.

In shower, most famous, has not been barbeque.

Not last time.

What long showers do people have?

This first test!

Don't be the great.

Amazon's time, order you at least check it out.

Thank you.

Anupam Kair.

Thank you.

Thank you, sir.

Thank you so much.

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You had both of us actually have been raised by two parents and there was usually one bad

cop and good cop.

And in my case as well, my father was the good cop.

Is the good cop and my most of his good bad cop and she was the one who was disciplining.

And we both are at a stage in our lives where we are single parenting, me to a large extent

and you almost fully write and you do have your mom who helps you.

But tell us a little bit about that because yours was actually by choice.

I think it was something I've always wanted.

I feel like I'm inherently a parent even when I wasn't.

I've always had feelings of paternal instincts towards the kids I've worked with in the movies

or the kids I've mentored as a director.

Like Alia Varun.

Alia and Varun and all of them.

Like I just felt I always wanted but I somehow knew that it was a decision I had to take

along with my mom.

And when I said it to her, when I felt I was fully emotionally equipped to be a parent,

I asked her and to my share and utter joy, she was like, I can't wait.

And I feel like it's daunting for me because I'm an only child and a single parent and

it's a double whammy because my mom's not been keeping really good health in the last

year.

She had a stroke last December and from then on she's not being able to do what she was

doing as a co-parent.

She's also 83 years old.

So it is not easy.

You know that.

And I have twins.

So I have double the issues.

I'm the only dad on two WhatsApp mom's group.

I'm the one who has to schedule their lives, give the time and balance it by running a company

and be there for my mom.

It's all, it's overall overwhelming.

But that joy of just having that love, being the proud recipient of the love, when they

come and give you that hug.

That hug.

And it doesn't matter to them.

And I'm sad to say this, but it's, I never want them to be on well.

I always have to be happy.

But the moment they hug you when they have a tear in their eye and you feel like you

that because now kids have stopped hugging the way they used to and they were three and

four.

Now you have to beg for that love.

Yeah.

Because I want an eye and there's nothing doing because I am like my dad.

My dad was tactile.

I wanted the hugs and kisses and I desired it.

And you want it.

I want to be hugged and they meet me.

But when they need you and they are feeling wonderful and they give you that hug, that's

to be heaven.

Yeah.

That moment of that child in your arms and you hold them tight and just hug them with your

core.

I feel like, I don't know what heaven feels like, but that to me is my heaven.

Yeah.

No, same.

And for me as well, I think the whole single parenting, yes, it is hard, but also because

we are working and we do so many different things.

But you know, have you seen the flip sides, Anya?

It's actually liberating because you are not at crossroads with anybody else, like everybody

else has.

When you are not.

Yeah.

Yeah, I know.

Well.

I know.

That's why I don't have that flip side.

No, well cross border is well.

So, I mean, you have a situation which is even more daunting and overwhelming.

Yeah.

But at my end, I feel actually I'm blessed.

Yeah.

Of course.

Twins were being born and when they were born, I had a hundred people give me pieces of

advice on parenting twins or reading books, hearing podcasts.

I did nothing.

I was like, we are blessed with what we call a superpower.

It's called instinct.

Your instinct is a parent kicks in and your instinct is different from every other situation

and parents themselves.

Exactly.

And there is no right or wrong way.

It is your way.

And over parent.

There's something called over parenting.

Yeah.

I am not an over parenting, but I do find it challenging to leave him.

Like now, when I'm here, you know, because I live in Dubai and here.

You know, and I feel the same way when I have to travel.

That's the biggest challenge for me, like to stay away, right?

Like for a period of one week, then I have to like obviously just like your mom comes

in, my mom and what a blessing, like right now she's with him because I'm, you know,

working for this one week and I'm here and I won't see him and that for me is the hardest

part.

Anything else I'm fine with.

But you know, sometimes that will also make him more independent.

Yeah.

Instead of worrying about the minuses, I feel there are big pluses in every extreme

search situation.

Like the big plus here is that your son and my twins will be very, very independent and

they'll be strong and they'll be resilient.

Yeah.

And that's something that I would wish for all of them.

Like we say in inshallah.

We really, really hope for that to happen.

Last couple of questions, both of us have been in the public eye or spotlight if you

say for many years now, and I was very young, I was like 15, 16, you were as well.

And it's hard.

I mean, single parenting, all of this stuff, but also having romantic relationships is

hard.

Yeah.

How do you feel?

Do you feel that how have you made peace with the fact that you are today, you're single,

you know, or to your single, or we think you're single.

I am single.

Okay.

Nice strategy is.

Your status is single, okay?

Your official status, public status is single.

No, my real status is single.

Your real status is single.

So have you made a peace with that, that, you know, you're okay with it?

Yeah.

There is a line in another song which I don't get every single one here in my life.

Pushnaseeb Havocin is the one I met in my life.

I'm okay now.

There was a point of time I really wanted the love.

I wanted the companionship.

Yeah.

I remember talking about this.

I wanted a relationship.

And I went through all kinds of dynamics, a broken heart, one sided love, I even made

a film on it.

That was cathartic, but beautiful for me.

It helped me heal.

I waited.

I realized that is somebody going to love me for who I am or what I bring to the table.

Then you come on with doubt.

Then everyone says, oh, put yourself out there.

I'm still looking for that there.

I don't know where that is.

There is.

It's unbelievable.

Go abroad.

They say like, you know, abroad.

I don't know.

You know, what?

I'm abroad.

I live here.

I have a mom and two kids.

I have to live here.

So I've gone through those beats and I don't get lonely.

It's a reality.

When you get lonely, it's in your highs.

Not in your lows.

Actually.

Because in your lows, you have your mom, you have your close friends.

Family, yeah.

I have two cousin sisters.

I'm very close to them.

I have my best friends.

I have my family, my friends, my kids just to hug.

In your highs, what do you do?

You celebrate a victory.

I remember I got a call saying you won the national award and I put the phone down.

And for one, I kept thinking, what should I do tonight?

Who's house do I go to?

Who do I sit with?

Who's hand do I hold?

Who do I feel like?

I feel a little bit, I should pat my back today and feel a little happy.

It's those moments.

You know, when I went to receive the national award, they asked me, who's your plus one?

And I had no one.

I had no one.

Like, Apura was winning it.

Who's my partner at work and my best friend and he was bringing his wife.

Everybody was discussing just how some women, you know, or whoever.

My mom is not physically capable of coming.

And my kids are too young and I was like, how?

It just felt that reality within many a night, you sit at home and you're eating alone.

Eating alone is the other thing that makes you feel a bit lonely.

And you're unmotivated.

I'm saying, yeah, because I'm relating to a lot of what you're saying.

And many times, I don't even go to the dining table, Sanya, because that makes me feel worse.

So I eat in my room.

Like, I know they say you shouldn't lie down and eat and you should sit and eat.

But I sit up like this.

They have a table.

They put my food on it and I eat and I always bought something.

So I can actually dilute the emptiness of the moment of the loneliness of that being.

Because I've come to realise that I'm okay today.

I've dealt with it.

But yes, the love of a partner, the sharing the nothings of your day or the highs of your life with

is very different from what you get from a parent, a sibling or a child.

That love and it's not the intimacy or the sex.

It's just the partnership that you form.