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When Austin Maynard arrived in Bryan, Ohio, he wasn’t just stepping into a new town—he was stepping into a network of haunted locations waiting to be explored.
What started as a single investigation quickly expanded into the Underground Paranormal Network, a collection of historic buildings connected not just by proximity, but by the stories and activity tied to them. From old opera houses to former jails, these spaces are now being reopened, restored, and investigated.
Austin shares how he built this network, the work that goes into transforming abandoned properties into active investigation sites, and the experiences that continue to surface as he explores them. Using custom-built tools, ghost boxes, and experimental ITC methods, he’s searching for responses—and sometimes getting more than expected.
It’s a look at what happens when paranormal investigation meets preservation—and how one town’s forgotten past may still have something to say.
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Today on the Grave Talks, the Underground Paranormal Network,
a conversation with Austin Maynard.
In 2018, Austin Maynard moved to Bryan, Ohio,
a small town brimming with untapped history, mystery, and hauntings,
where he founded the Underground Paranormal Network.
It's a network of seven historic and haunted locations,
each holding secrets waiting to be unraveled.
Through this network, he's also transforming the community.
His vision goes beyond investigation,
because he saw an opportunity to not only shed light on these sites,
but also to breathe the life into the community and preserve its rich heritage.
Austin's contributions to the field of paranormal exploration don't stop there.
He's a true trailblazer collaborating with equipment developers,
ghost box builders, and innovative researchers,
to push the boundaries of our understanding.
His primary focus lies in instrumental trans communication,
a field he's been researching and studying since 2017.
In fact, he considers himself more of an experimentalist,
rather than a researcher.
Today on the Grave Talks, the Underground Paranormal Network,
a conversation with Austin Maynard.
So Austin, thank you so much for joining me today.
Now you are the founder of the Underground Paranormal Network.
Could you kind of describe what that is,
and when you founded it, how it came about, that sort of thing.
Yeah, I founded the Underground Paranormal Network in 2018,
but it was basically, I just, I moved up to Brian O'Hyle in 2018,
and when at that point, I had already,
you know, I was into the paranormal field for a few years.
My team and I, or my partner and I,
Mike Ring, and Creepy Sense and Addy Paraphyrenzics,
we were running the Higginsport School for a little while down in southern Ohio.
But then when I moved up to Brian,
I saw a bunch of these locations around the town,
you know, like in 1869, Jail,
you know, Father John's MicroBury.
There's a grain elevator here.
There's a whole bunch of stuff, and I just was like,
you know, wow, these are amazing.
And my dad was grew up in Brian.
My dad was born and raised in Brian,
and he's been a Williams County historian for 47 years.
And so I grew up just appreciating history in general,
but then like when I started getting like into the paranormal,
and I started working with a lot of these locations,
I really started to appreciate the architecture and the history on top of that.
And so like I've realized that all of,
like all of these small towns everywhere,
all across the country, you know,
there's just these untouched history.
I mean, it's like all this stuff has been like crazy things that have happened.
And nobody knows about them because it's in Brian, Ohio.
Who the hell's ever heard of Brian, Ohio, right?
You know, I just saw this,
this lack of attention being brought.
And so that's kind of where the underground paranormal network started was
that it's supposed to be like,
quote unquote, underground locations.
Kind of like the underground music scene or the underground,
you know, like the underground being just like the below the mainstream.
And I just felt like, you know,
we could really help bring a lot of attention to the history of these
no-name places, you know.
And I think it would be,
it can be good for a lot of things.
Like it can be good for the local economy
because whenever we have people come out,
you know, they got to eat at the local restaurants,
stay in the local hotel or a local BNB.
Like they're going to, you know,
they're going to go to the local gas station
and buy a bunch of snacks and stuff.
Like it's tourism.
There's a lot of,
and plus the money that is brought in can help to preserve these haunted locations.
And that's, or preserve these historic locations.
And that's really like,
part of the old goal is just like,
you know, I'll be honest,
we cannot bring in enough money
to completely like,
start taking care of all these major issues with some of the buildings, you know what I mean?
We can only help to keep us standing.
At least like, that's how we volunteer all of our labor.
You know, we'll run events.
We'll handle, you know, private bookings and private tours and everything.
We'll keep the place clean and the owner.
Like the owner will basically, we get,
we rent out the building from the owner.
And he every time we go in there, he gets paid.
And he is supposed to be like,
our intentions, of course, are like,
you know, here's money.
Please put it towards the building.
Or please put it towards whatever.
And if you need any labor,
we can provide plenty of labor help for you.
Even sometimes, because you know,
a lot of these people out there are skilled tradesmen,
you know, they have specific knowledge,
specific skills with the right tools for certain things,
some of them are licensed electricians,
you know, licensed contractors, some like that,
you know, that are willing to volunteer.
And so like, it just seems like it's,
it makes so much sense.
Like why wouldn't, why shouldn't we do that?
And there are small towns across the country that have these,
well, not just small towns,
let's just say cities, towns,
or any size across the country that have
these old buildings that are just standing there empty,
can't afford to tear them down,
nobody's taking care of them.
And this is a way to actually kind of bring life back to these towns too.
And these buildings make them useful again.
And the whole, you know,
it's definitely the whole.
I just recently went on vacation.
And we were going through Kansas City.
And Kansas City's got a really cool
old warehouse area,
these old brick buildings that are just empty.
And they're trying to revitalize them and turn them into apartments
and do some things.
But that takes money.
And in small towns, you don't have investors.
You're going to have like in a Kansas city.
No, so really, you know, when you do a lot of the,
like for our, for the buildings that we work with,
for instance, like middle point school and the Broadwell funeral home,
some of these places, you know,
a lot of the work is just being done little bits at a time
because that's what we can afford.
You know, like one thing that I know we're going to be doing at
middle point, the middle point school is like,
when the owner bought it several years ago,
before we even started working,
like there was a lot of water damage in the gymnasium.
Like the floor is, you know, was soaked.
But he fixed the roof area.
But like over and over time, that would dry.
But now it's like rotted.
And so as you walk in certain parts of the gym floor,
you know, the floor will crack beneath you fall in.
I mean, it's not like a huge fall.
I mean, it's like a couple inches that you go down.
But still, I mean, we need to figure out.
We've been talking about doing work on that for a long time.
And so now like our goal, the owner found a lot,
basically a lot of big, big plywood boards.
And so essentially we're going to be like that,
some of the stuff that we're doing for as far as like,
just keeping the building at least safe.
And because we're going to completely cover the gym floor
with plywood.
And then eventually we're going to put new gym flooring on it.
Like put just completely, but we have to be able to completely,
you know, there's a lot of beams and bows
beams of wood and floor panels that are bowed up
just from the overtime and everything.
So like we have to, we have to completely level the floor out.
And the first step of that obviously is,
you know, completely covering it with plywood.
But, you know, little steps, little things chipping out.
And just little things at a time can help preserve the locations.
And if, you know, if the locations eventually will blow up,
you know, go mainstream and just, you know,
because some of these places really do.
You know, if we can start making, you're bringing in enough money
then a lot of these bigger repairs can be done.
But at the, you know, we're just, we're limited.
And I'm the underground paranormal network at this point is really,
well, I mean, from the start, it's been trying to create something out of nothing essentially.
And I mean, we've been able to take it in good ways,
but there's still a lot of work to be done.
Now, when you looked at these various locations,
because how many would, do you do six or seven in there, something like that?
Yeah, seven.
Seven.
So, when you found these seven locations,
did you go in first and do some paranormal investigating?
Because, you know, you would drive by these places.
And you might go, that place is haunted.
But you don't know until you get in it.
You just get that feeling or it just looks like a haunted place.
Did you go in each of them and kind of do a little investigation first?
Well, really a lot of the locations were, well, I wouldn't say a lot of them.
Let me think, I would say the Murphy building, the funeral homes, the Wendell Inn,
and the Ogleys village were all brought to my attention by my partners,
Mike Ring and Eric Moore.
And, you know, so like anything in the south, like the Murphy building,
the back-and-time important was what it's called, the Broadway funeral home in the Wendell Inn.
Actually, Mike was called out to these locations by the owners,
reporting activity.
And so, he went and did an investigation.
And, you know, he would have, he had some crazy interactions at each of these locations.
And then he would talk to the owner a little bit, kind of talk to him about what we do.
And then I would get, you know, and then once I would talk to the owners, I would go out there,
you know, like the Murphy building is a good close to five hour drive for me.
So, like the ones that I found were here in Bryan were, well, and Middlepoint to,
Middlepoint School, I found just doing research.
But the Bryan, the 1869 jail and Father Johns were local.
And those ones I knew the owners, I got in touch with them.
And now we have a great working relationship.
But I eventually, yes, I've always, I always go in and do my own investigation before I even
put it out there for people because I don't want to like, you know, I want to make sure for one,
this is actually active or I'm at least getting some activity.
And then there's some kind of history that can help to explain it.
But, you know, in a lot of these end up just starting out as kind of like, there's mysteries,
right? And then the longer that we go on, the more we investigate, the more we research,
we find out more and more information, you know, that's just how it goes.
What got you interested in the paranormal?
I think it's interesting that your dad's kind of the town historian there.
So I could see how that got you interested in history.
But what got you interested in the paranormal?
Well, to be honest, I've been interested in the paranormal or the supernatural of my life,
you know, and I was a kid, I was like, looking, you know, I would rent books from the library
about, you know, the like cryptids and aliens and all that stuff.
But I never really got into the afterlife until I suffered a sudden cardiac arrest,
lethal arrhythmia when I was 18. And like, they didn't really know what caused it or whatever,
they still I've still don't know what caused it. But I was in a coma for three days.
And I was in the hospital for 11 total, but I suffered from like short-term memory loss.
A severe concussion, run a low inhibition. But I was, you know, I collapsed and was kind of
without oxygen in my brain for several minutes. Oh, wow. And so, and they, honestly, like,
when they brought me to the hospital, they even brought the paperwork to my parents about,
you know, you know, me donating my organs, you know, because they genuinely thought I was
going to be in a vegetative state. And so I think that's what kind of triggered my
curiosity, at least, because that's what made me want, like, that I was gone, I was basically gone.
But then I came back because I was essentially going to be an empty vessel. You know,
if that's what I was going to be in a vegetative state, right? You know, but when I came back,
it just made me wonder, like, what in the world? And so the more I dove into it, like, the more
questions I have now than anything. I was not ready for that answer. I thought you were going to say
something like, well, when I was a kid, I lived in a haunted house, or you had to answer it.
Yeah, a lot of times it is. And so I wasn't ready for that. I'm so glad you're okay now.
Can't imagine what your parents were going through. It's hard to even talk to them about it,
because they get really, really emotional. And I mean, I can't, I don't understand what they're
where they're coming from, because obviously I was the one that was unconscious. And they were
there to, like, go through all that, you know, and that's, I can't imagine how difficult that
must have been. But, you know, it definitely, it's, it's a hard topic anymore. It's a hard
thing to talk about because, you know, obviously, for obvious reasons. But everything's been good.
I've, it's been since 2009, I think, is when it happened. June 5th, 2009, what happened?
Can't imagine. And something like that, really, if it doesn't change your life,
something's wrong with you. If you don't have an experience like that and you just keep going
about like it never happened, I mean, that is a life-changing experience. And it really would
make you wonder what's on the other side. Why was I so close? You're kind of straddling here
in there for a while. Oh, yeah. And I mean, also, maybe, really, it made me learn to appreciate
life. I appreciate things a lot more than I used to. You know, and that could just be with age,
but I feel like, you know, I feel like I have a different perspective on it because, you know,
death can come literally at any time. I was 18 years old. And it came. You know, and so,
what was to say when it happened later today? Right. Just, I just have to do my best to be the
best person that I can be the best husband that I can be, you know, and do what I can to dive in
as much as I can before I go. You know, so it's definitely, I open. I can see where an experience like
that because I've talked to several people who've had near death experiences. And it's really
led them to a fascination with the other side and what's out there and that we don't know about.
And why can't you communicate with the other side? It's, you know, it's all energy, right?
And oh, yeah, I mean, I mean, that's kind of why I started like diving into instrumental
transcommunication. Like I dive heavy, heavy into ITC. If you would explain ITC.
Well, instrumental transcommunication or ITC is essentially using electronic devices to
communicate with the unseen or the unknown, whatever you want to call it. But I mean, this can,
there's so many different forms of it. ITC is such a vague umbrella term because like doing EVPs.
That's a form of ITC. You're looking for manipulation of the frequencies within these devices.
And so that's really like what what the focus of ITC is and that can be anything from the EVPs.
It can be a spirit boxes or ghost boxes. It can be using devices like the avalus or you know,
there's a such a wide range. In your experimentation with the different devices, have you come across
anything or maybe you've developed something or kind of tweak something in a way that works better
for you? As far as seeing this is why like I've I've kind of ruined myself. I guess
one of those certain things because I've done I'm at a point now in my in my research and my
experimentation that I don't necessarily believe that we're talking to dead people anymore.
I start to I think there's something more along the lines of either like something from a parallel
existence like what we would call interdimensional or or even possibly you know I don't I can get
really deep into it like I honestly believe that it's something within the dark matter. Something
within the the particles that are not able to interact with photons which are light and light
particles or waves. And so like anything that we can't see is filled with some kind of matter that
we don't know what it is. And so you know what I mean like so I think there's something within that
and I think that the frequencies the radio frequencies are radio frequencies are universal. I mean
they exist on all ends of ours on all ends of the universe. And so I would imagine if they live in
this existence and it's just something where we can't we can't see them or interact with them because
they don't react along our electromagnetic spectrum. I mean that doesn't mean they're not there
and there's got to be I think that it's something within that. So I'm devices really to me I'm looking
at a combination of frequencies almost like a pin code to try to unlock or to what we got to do to
bridge that gap. But I'm also looking at direct manipulation of frequencies. So like some
of I work with a guy JW prayther of IDC devices. He builds like devices like the direct link which
is used on a number of TV shows. But his devices scan the FM spectrum and not just the 875 or whatever
to you know 108 one you know not just that range. He's going down to like 73 megahertz all the way
up to like 115 megahertz and then having 10 steps in between each 100 of the megahertz I guess.
So like it would be like 73.10 73.11 73.12 and then he's randomly jumping around. So like no
two frequencies no two consecutive frequencies are actually played out consecutive. And so for one
you got that element of no radio bleed through plus two the way that he makes the devices is
you can actually record audio every step of the way along the circuitry along the path of the
audio circuits because what we've noticed is that there's times where everything okay so here's
an example in a circuit path an audio circuit path. Through a simple ghost box you would have your
radio tuner audio that goes into a echo in reverb circuit which then goes into the amplifier
which then goes into the speaker so there's like four steps along the way maybe some things in
between but it's all those are the circuits. And it does not skip steps right it doesn't audio
and voltage does not like jump and skip a circuit it has to go it has to follow the path.
Right. And so everything that comes out of the tuner by the time he gets to the speaker it should
come out with echo in reverb if you have those effects turned up. So everything everything that comes
out of that tuner should have echo in reverb but then there are those times where we'll get voices
that come through that don't have echo in reverb even even though the voices before and after
had echo in reverb but there was just that one voice or like two or three words that would come
through in between like maybe give like two seconds in between each station there's three words
that come through that don't that don't echo that don't reverb and so we're trying to figure out
how how that happens was because it doesn't work that way. It shouldn't happen. No it should not
happen at all and so what we've just we've you did JW it calls these direct applied voices or DAVs
and a direct applied voice is literally like it is imprinting its voice at a certain point
along the path of the circuit like it's actually putting itself in there or it's manipulating the
frequencies in there to create the speech that we hear but regardless it's not coming from the tuner
it's not coming from the radio and so with that's like those are some of the things that we're
looking at and we can record from every step along in between each circuit to see where the
manipulation is happening and we're finding it happening after the amplifier board which is
interesting yeah because that means that between coming out of the echo reverb board and out of
the amplifier in that somewhere in there something is putting its voice in there now what in the
world and how and how exactly and this is just some of the stuff that we're looking at that's so
interesting yeah but this is that's why I dive into it so much is because I believe that there is
so much more to this than the mass belief system would tell us you know the rampads and the K2s
and the forward and backward SB7s and all this stuff you know it's like I mean those are great for
you know and those are just kind of the generalized everybody's got one you know what what else
is it really telling us kind of thing and I just wasn't satisfied with that stuff not to say that
other people you know they believe in them and that's great you know if they have everybody has
their own reasons for being in the community or being in the field I mean I kind of take
maybe I take a little bit of wrongful offense to to a one people call themselves like researchers
or experimenters but they're like the weekend ghost honors there's a really researcher is different
than you're going out ghost hunting but it to be fair I don't even consider myself to be a real
like an extreme researcher I'm more of an experimentalist trying to see what happens but the
thing is like with each experiment I end up with more questions that I just continue to to follow
it's a it's a paranormal rabbit hole like a supernatural rabbit hole you just keep going down
going down oh my god it's so true though and like the more you dive into it the less I believe in the
the mainstream belief system you know what I mean the more I think that that it's just not like this
it's I don't believe that what we what I was taught when I came in is true at all
anymore I believe it's way deeper there's a way there's so many more aspects to this that I think
we're not paying attention to or we haven't even realized yet you know my sister and I just had
a long conversation about the whole parallel universe thing like could there be this parallel
thing that sometimes you cross over into ours and it's so like the way you're talking about
as way like ours was like a very basic basic conversation but it's like I because like there's
something else going on yeah and you know a lot of us were into this and listening to this
podcasters a reason you're listening to it we've so many people have had an experience hearing voices
hearing footsteps there's something there that woke me up in the middle of the night walking
down the hall yeah I don't know what that was your mind like your mind and I'm my mind they're not
the same I cannot do what you're doing but I love that you're just going with it and trying to figure
it out I mean I don't I think it's because I came to the realization a while back that like in our
lifetime everything that we're doing I even the people that are doing the deepest most well-funded
research that you could possibly have like I don't think that we are going to legitimately find
proof like scientific proof of of what we're looking at right now or what we're looking for right
not in our lifetime do you do you even know if you were to find something or is there something
like that little holy grail that you could say that was what I was looking for
well do you even know would you know it if you found it I think we would recognize
we would recognize that I think we would I think we would but it would we don't know what exactly it
is that we're like what kind of data we're looking for specifically and so most of us are just
looking for anomalies within certain aspects of the data but also trying to do our best to
eliminate possible false positives so that's why I love you know the random scan and like you know
what I mean I love I want to do everything that I possibly can to eliminate false positives false
you know outside contamination stuff like that and I don't think that in our lifetimes we're
going to be able to find it but what we're doing now is going to inspire future generations
hopefully you know they'll take you know some of the some of the stuff that we couldn't figure out
now and then they'll be able to look at it with better technology better like simpler things
that they could do a hundred years from now they look at this and be like oh I could do that
way better and I can also do this isn't this with it it's like but I mean because like the way
that we're inspired by guys like Frank Sumpton and you know I'm very inspired by guys like
Steve Haltay and Katie Stafford JW Prater like these guys are my best friends but like I the
that inspiration they learned from Frank's function and like that but Frank's function you know he's
no longer around and look how far the I see the Ghostbox community has come from when Frank's
function initially invented the automatic sweeping radio to where we are now like I can't even
imagine by the time 100 years from now as fast as technology is already advanced in the last 10
years right now in your experiences with going into these different locations when something does
happen you you know that maybe you heard something you can't explain a voice footsteps you know
common things that a lot of us have experienced right how do you deal with that information because
I'm kind of like I don't know what that was but with you have more of a scientific brain
can you ever just accept like that happened I got oh that was weird don't give me wrong I
definitely believe that I recognize activity I recognize I believe in it I like I'm I almost
work under the assumption that they are there you know I mean I hate to say that but like that is
the case anybody that's actually doing like ITC work or doing anything that's like I guess what I
do at least is under that assumption but I think it depends on this it depends on the situation
of course and like how crazy or what the activity was like if it was like some footsteps or or
whatever like I don't really look at that kind of stuff like I don't really but I mean yeah it's
hard to say either way like some of that stuff like I don't think that I could take evidence if I
feel like I can't take it to a skeptic and convince them of that then I'm not going to look at it
but um some of those things if it's like you know a door opening or closing by itself of course
you know I'm gonna go over there and I'm my first instinct is that it was not a ghost it was not
I don't know I have to go under that assumption and if I can if I can if I can't find a good like
logical explanation for it but I've always been under the assumption or I work under the assumption
if there's a even an unlikely scenario a natural scenario where it unlikely you know what I mean
like the perfect storm of things for this to happen naturally like I would go with that answer
before I would go with the ghost something being paranormal but I mean it just really yeah it
really depends on what it is and that wraps up part one of our conversation about the underground
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The Grave Talks | Haunted, Paranormal & Supernatural

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The Grave Talks | Haunted, Paranormal & Supernatural
