“The View” MELTSDOWN Over Babies, Jimmy Kimmel Insults Blue Collar Workers, Kamala Plots 2028 Run, and Sage Steele Joins

0:00Hey everyone welcome back to spot on with link Lauren happy hump day also happy April Fools can we just suspend April Fools for this year okay there's so much going on I don't have time for the games the buffoonery the Tom Foolery the Malarkey you don't have to come up and tell me some joke April Fools I woke up this morning okay I was barely awake and Chris leans over and looks at me now if you follow me on Instagram you know Chris we love Chris so Chris looks over at me he goes link link I said what he said Mark Levin is doing a sit down interview on Megan Kelly today and I'm I'm going okay and he goes April Fools I thought you'd be more surprised I said honey I am still in rim sleep you could tell me they found Nancy got three and I'd be like oh great great what was she wearing like I if I am asleep don't come around here with the games okay I

1:01don't have time for it I don't have time for the nonsense like if I'm asleep you could tell me sick read and roar back on tour with their lions tigers and bears I'd say oh good good good you could tell me Liberace been named secretary of the interior if I'm asleep you could tell me anything so I don't have time for the April Fools at 615 in the morning when I'm barely waking up and there's some people they're taking April Fools so seriously like tell me you have no personality without telling me you have no personality some of these people they're on Facebook paragraphs writing paragraphs all the way at the end April Fools it's not funny have y'all turned on the news we have enough going on in our lives in this country around the world everybody has enough sh it on their plates okay so I don't need the April Fools so don't come with the April Fools in the comments but I know you guys are going to agree with me but that was my wake up call this morning on today's episode we have a star joining us a superstar sage steel she'll be joining us later on the show I know so many of you love sage steel she's one of those those women who just seems so wise she's

2:06all this wisdom and sage advice so I'm excited to talk to her sage advice pun intended so we have sage steel coming on we're going to discuss the view the women of the view apparently hate the nuclear family they don't want anyone having children even though I think every woman on the panel has multiple children so we'll get into all of that with sage steel we're going to talk about what's going on also with Chick-fil-A okay Chick-fil-A has this new rule where apparently you can get free ice cream and some free desserts if you don't use your cell phone and I know parents are loving this some parents are hating it because they want to just enjoy their meals and peace and now the kids don't have the tablets or the phones so we'll have that debate and also apparently Kamala Harris think she's gonna run for president again which I'm in favor of because I need the content I need the material and I think it'd be entertaining but I don't know I don't know if there's enough liquor I don't know if there's enough liquor in America for Kamala Harris to run for office again but we're gonna pay some bills really quickly and then we'll be right back

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4:07link use code link at checkout that's 25% off when you use code link at cowboy colostrum.com slash link well miss comma lamity Harris Cabernet comola apparently she thinks she's going to run for office in 2028 she wants to run for president again and let me tell you okay a tale as old as time once you get that bug of running for president you get all of that attention you're not going to let it go comola she ran for president in 2020 okay I think she got 2% of the votes 1% she ends up being VP 1 to skip a few she's slotted in in the last election in the last 107 days she's slotted in and then she gets all of this attention again and I think that dopamine hit that rush to your head it's just so addictive and it's why women like comola Harris and men as well they get that bug to run and they want to keep running they want to be on the road they want to be out there doing rallies you know you get to sort of live this infantilized life if you run for office in a

5:08way because you're not so much a part of 9 to 5 modern society you know what I'm saying it's fun it's exciting it's super hard work but you get to do these rallies and you get to live a little bit like a rock star and I think for comola Harris because she has no policies she has no plans and she has absolutely nothing going on she thinks she's going to run for office because why the hell not so let me redo this so she's been slammed online for sending out a bizarre text announcing that she's going to swing across some states in the deep south for democratic events and fund razors she'll take trips to North Carolina South Carolina Georgia etc to uplift Democrats and continue building our power in the south now everybody's saying listen you're only doing these types of things if you are running for president right there are certain dinners politicians go and speak at to signal hey I'm running I'm gonna run and so I think comola Harris is trying to stay active because she hasn't caught on to the fact that she's an idiot okay you are a fool we've

6:10all known this for years but comola Harris I think she's so hungry to be back on the road because number one lots of open bars at campaign events okay lots of alcohol open bars and past or derves at fancy democratic fund razors so it's probably why comola Harris wants to stay on the road her husband Doug is an alleged wife beater and he seems like a boar and a snooze so she wants to get out of the house away from him so comola Harris I think you should run because her last campaign was so entertaining I mean she could barely form coherent sentences so if she wants to run again I fully support it but it'll be interesting to see what happens because their Democrat party is this elite cabal it's almost this cult where you can't question things you have to stay in line with the doctrine there are people who pull the puppet strings in the democratic party right the top donors like the soroses and etc I think those folks are not so enamored with comola Harris but she's gonna try to buck the system anyway right the last thing they probably want is a comola Harris nomination in the democratic party and I think those billionaires are in donors they're

7:13gonna let her have some fun go on her tour through the south you know have a good time go to the state fair eat a turkey leg eat some chicken wings have a couple of beers and then when she gets home maybe they'll have a come to Jesus with her now someone else we need to have a come to Jesus meeting with is Don Lemon okay Don Lemon thinks he can run for president too he thinks he can do a better job than President Trump this is what he said on his podcast I guess now that he's been let go from every other network and every other platform he's doing his own deal on the internet which is great welcome come on everybody's got a podcast nowadays but on this podcast he had the audacity to say he could do a better job than President Trump take a look so do I ever think about it yes could it happen yeah it could happen it's the opportunity presented itself the right opportunity presented itself look if I wanted to I know people are gonna think I'm crazy this is gonna be the headline and people are gonna laugh about it I think I could be president of united states

8:13I could definitely run this country better than then then Donald Trump the fact that Donald the fact that Donald lemon the fact that Don Lemon thinks he can run the country better than President Trump is lavable you idiot don't lemon okay this is a man who couldn't even keep his job at CNN you know how hard it is to get fired from CNN as a black gay liberal man you have to be so terrible to get the kid from the mainstream media I mean he checked every single box that they would love and they were still like we gotta let you go the audience hates you you're so unlikable even CNN is kicking you to the curb so Don Lemon I don't see him running for office anytime soon I think he would be an object failure an object failure and also he apparently hates half the population almost he says he hates white men he has these you know major issues with white men and

9:16remember a couple months ago he said things were deeply broken inside white men and there's something broken inside of you white men and I thought well this is ironic because Don Lemon has white men inside of him almost every night allegedly so you're married to a white man put that in your pipe and smoke it Don Lemon so anyway Don Lemon I wish you well boo boo running for office but I don't see it going very well but I think you should maybe raise some money for your legal bills because it looks like you're going to be spending a little more time in court now pivoting from Don Lemon to Chick-fil-A we have to talk about what they are doing to incentivize more conversation around the table more children interacting with their parents I was at Chick-fil-A over the weekend okay I love Chick-fil-A I've said it before and I will say it again a lot of these liberals on the left they tell me as a gay man I shouldn't be eating at Chick-fil-A because apparently they support anti gay groups apparently Chick-fil-A doesn't support gay people allegedly allegedly but here's my thing don't make me choose between gay rights and Chick-fil-A okay because I might

10:18be choosing the latter okay if I have to choose between gay marriage and Chick-fil-A honey Polynesian sauce spicy deluxe chicken sandwich nuggets the macaroni they also have a new Siracha sauce don't make me choose okay I will die on this hill I love Chick-fil-A another reason I love Chick-fil-A they're in the news right now they're in the news because they're encouraging human connection they're offering free ice cream to those willing to share a meal without screens now Brad Williams who owns two Chick-fil-A restaurants in Georgia hey Brad was inspired to implement this after witnessing a mother of two spend an entire meal on her cell phone well honey first off we don't know what that mother was doing okay I'm thinking now that mother might have had some games she was up to she might have been scheduling a date for later you got a single mom with her kids at the table she might have been working okay she might have been hustling so we don't know what she was doing on the phone so let's give the mother a little bit of grace but I do agree with the sentiment as a whole because when I was a kid we didn't have cell phones at the table okay I was

11:22right before that now everyone has a tablet we had to sit and listen to the adults converse and talk and what was going on in the news and the daily dramas and I think it's why now I'm not a shy person I can go up and talk to people and look them in the eye and I talk for a living and I think a lot of kids now of course the tablet is okay here and there the parents need a break okay give the kid you know a children's show to watch but I do think there's some parents who are allowing the iPhones and the iPads to raise the kids and I think they're in lies the problem because you got to have a meal every once in a while as a family and whether you guys laugh and get along or you fight and you yell at each other like some families do there's nothing wrong with that that's part of growing up and that's part of the human experience so shout out to Chick-fil-A for doing this apparently they've built what they call a coop almost like a chicken coop with wire that you're supposed to put your phones into and put them on silent they say you're supposed to surrender your phones so I have no problem with this I don't think I would last very long kind of be honest I put my phone in there and then what happens is nowadays do you all ever have

12:24this thing you're hanging out with your friends and because information is so accessible you go oh well let's look that up real quick who was in that movie and then you're asking you know everybody's pulling out their phones to look something up nowadays half the time when I'm with my friends like who was that did they win the Oscar so I do think I wouldn't last very long in this but I love this idea that more kids are gonna be conversing and having a good time and enjoying some good old fashioned Chick-fil-A there's no Chick-fil-A in my town we actually drove 90 minutes over the weekend to get Chick-fil-A we went to Costco and Lowe's I talked about it on our last episode and so the guy at Chick-fil-A there was this older man working there he said where did y'all drive in from and we told him he goes oh my god that's probably our longest trip today and that's how committed we are to Chick-fil-A okay I'm living the American dream Chick-fil-A Lowe's Costco a good old road trip on a Saturday afternoon I'm in heaven but we got to pay some bills really quickly and then we'll be back with sage steel. Debt can feel like everything is piling up the bank fees the

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14:32link once again pds debt dot com slash link you guys I could not be more excited for this next guest act com act like we've been here before we got a celebrity guest on today's episode okay we got some star power we're gonna get some sage advice some sage wisdom from none other than sage steel I'm so excited to have her I've been following her for years and years and years and the fact that it worked out with scheduling is amazing I thought it was an April fools joke but she is here so sage welcome to the show how are you doing thanks for being here I okay best intro ever thank you I'm this is exciting for me because I've been following you forever too and I so appreciate your patience with my stupid schedule right now I I have a fabulous I'm a newlywed my husband is trying to fix me with many and many other ways too and it is to try to figure out a better way to manage the calendar so a year from now this will be much easier sage I'm so glad you brought this up

15:35because my boyfriend would say the same thing we have tried to do the google calendars and sync them and do my schedule with his because we both have very different careers and then we go in different places and then I have bought multiple big calendars to go you know in the kitchen let's keep it in the kitchen I said I think it's better if we just write on it he's like oh he's he's so gay he's like it's gonna throw off the look of the kitchen to have this big ugly calendar and I'm like honey it's what we got to do because the google isn't syncing in the cloud so I understand trying to merge calendar stage I really do it is it is a first world problem I guess it's a first world problem so speaking of a problem we have to talk about the women of the view and this has gone totally viral over the last few days apparently they just really hate the nuclear family and we've seen this even from New York magazine recently and some other publications they're doing stories on how basically as a woman your life will be over you'll be miserable if you have kids and so I want to play you this clip of the view and then get your reaction perfect what did she what's up what what what

16:39and it wraps a woman's worth up in her ovaries bottom line if you're not paying my bills you don't get to tell me what I do with my uterus if your marriage requires courage I have a lot of questions about your husband would just say Isabelle maybe let's check in with your boobs in a year and see if you still want a lot more care and for a two person household a married household you need over four hundred thousand dollars for child care so she's advocating for people to be born into poverty people not being able to feed those children people not being able to educate those children and people not being able to house those children okay so first off I want to read you Isabelle Brown's response because we love Isabelle and they were calling out Isabelle who's the least problematic person ever she's one of the most kind least problematic people so she said it was high time to start encouraging your children to grow up and have the courage to get married and have kids more kids than they can afford before they think they're ready now sage I imagine you have some thoughts on this I you know I struggle so much with this for obvious reasons but also because the ladies of the view are such an abomination right now that then I get

17:45mad I'm like okay are we making it worse and contributing to it by talking about all their stupidity but I can't help myself because they need they need to be called out like it actually breaks my heart the fact that the it wasn't just what they said it was the way they said it so smug and condescending towards Isabelle Brown who if you don't follow her you should and she has a brilliant young woman I had her on my show late last year and she she taught me so much about the Catholic faith and and just life in general and as a young mother um what they want is for us to believe those very scripted talking points and I think deep deep down you know most young people understand yeah this does it's really adding up I don't know like my upbringing wasn't perfect but look my mom did it and the marriage uh we have to continue to have women like Isabelle speak up and then continue to fight back as she did after they went after like that there's so many things that I left out and an avarice like unless you're paying my bills you don't have control of my uterus so what

18:50happens when a man's paying your bills does he have control because you tell him he can't either so which one isn't there's so much hypocrisy there I love how Sonny Austin goes down the list of all you know is life expensive today yes and it's easy to say that from her glass house with millions of dollars and the staff and the help and you know so just stop like just stop with the condescending very hurtful takes when why aren't we celebrating the fact that all those women on that panel are badasses who are doing it and who did struggle along the way to get to that beautiful set there on abc like it's I just it's the same crap from them link but I also think we must continue to blow them up when they say things to try to scare women away from trying to have a family and a career it's okay no 100% I feel like the view is just totally out of lockstep with the majority of the country I feel like the view is just pandering to a very small group of liberal

19:54elites who live in urban enclaves I mean even the way they speak you know 400,000 year to raise your child well do you have like a personal chef and trainer and multiple properties I mean who is spending $400,000 a year to raise the child you know what I'm saying so I have yeah I have so many friends who are young moms and they're people who work on this show who are soon to be moms I mean we support so many young moms and none of them are spending that kind of money to have kids but I think one thing that could be interesting for these panels at CPAC right I'd be curious to hear what you think about this what if they had some women who weren't in the influencer podcast space to come up on the panel with them because then the view couldn't just say oh well you're a podcaster or you're an influencer or you're this and that you have other women who might be working that nine to five outside of the home or woman who's working at McDonald's and said you know what I was scared to have a kid I thought I couldn't afford it and my life is so much more meaningful now because I have one you know what do you think about that wow that's a great point getting for everyday women up there and and also one thing that I have really tried to talk about a lot

21:00and my kids are older there we're in birthday season right now so they're about to be 24, 22 and 20 and I mean was it hard when they were little and I was working full-time yes and oh my goodness the biggest blessing of my life of course was it really tough for us to afford a lot of things then we didn't take vacations we did not drive nice cars yes what I've tried to tell young women who ask and even men I had there was a photographer here like last night doing a shoot for me for this TV thing and he's like yeah we have a two-year-old but I don't know it's expensive and I'm like dude go home right now and have sex with your wife like have the baby there's nobody who ever after having another child regrets it but there's millions who regret not trying the reality that I try to share and I will continue to as long as I have a platform to do so is yes women can do and have it all it's just not going to be perfect and there's going to be sacrifices along the way so drop that very high bar perfection which I

22:01had for such a long time like I try to share because I screwed up and I was so hard on myself to try to be perfect as a wife and as a mother and when my third kid was born my first was still three I had had them back to back to back and working a full-time job and I was trying to be the room mom and make everything from scratch when you bring it to the classroom you don't go to the grocery store oh my god like I did this life so you can do it what are you willing to sacrifice maybe you won't live in that big mansion but you can have an extra child so let's be realistic with how we talk about it right not that we're all going to be millionaires with these fabulous careers and four kids and they'll pick it fence and the great husband they're sacrifices but you can do it what are you willing to live without well I think anything worth doing in life is going to come with sacrifice whether it's career family anything you're interested in you're going to have to make sacrifices and it's interesting I'm so grateful and thank you for sharing your story about wearing your kids but as I've grown up I've realized the same thing my mom isn't infallible my mom isn't perfect I sometimes ask my mom you know when she was raising us were you ever nervous

23:06if you were taking us through the airport and dealing with the tickets and getting through security and one's crying and one needs a diaper change she's like oh you're totally nervous sometimes as a young mom but you better push through and just figure it out and so I think now my mom and are such good friends my audience knows she's my best friend but it's interesting I think we do need to have more of these open conversations it's okay to say you know what I'm scared I'm nervous I've got the bills I've got a lot on my plate and I think that's what the view could have done the view could have Isabella on they could have other women on to have this open dialogue in conversation but the view is like all five of us have the same view in viewpoint which is not what Barbara Walters intended and they could have had a more nuanced conversation because I'm the same way I don't I'm not going to shame women for choosing to not have kids or for any medical reasons if they can't have kids don't I mean I'm a gay guy with no kids who am I to speak and who am I to judge right but I do think it's concerning when the CDC says that birth rates are at an all-time low you see these polls that people aren't happy they're depressed they're not having kids

24:07if you erode the nuclear family that's the foundation of society going back to caveman times sage I mean it's horrific we need to be having more kids we do and I I'm glad that those numbers are out there now for all of us to see and then we got to get a think about some things and again it goes back to what we're willing to sacrifice some of it is physical I know many women who are afraid to let go of control of their bodies and will I be able to get my figure back in all those things and you know yes that is the reality of it but I love your suggestion would see pack in anywhere and maybe I need to be doing a better job on pot having people on every day women to talk about those fears because it is real but you know you talk so much about how this country is going in the wrong direction and it's so many ways and it always does come back to that and that's the that like this sounds cheesy and you might laugh I know you won't laugh at me but I now know why I'm on this earth it is to be a mom to Quinn Nicholas and Evan even though

25:09they're basically adults now I'm also learning that I'm here because I have a big mouth so like let's let's let's just be wild to learn that too so let's use this big mouth right and you and your big mouth we all have these things to talk about what we can do better to help encourage you know the nuclear family to come back to get back to where it was and that is part by the way of making America great again that is totally absolutely if we don't have the nuclear family what do we have and it's like I even look at some of this data you know kids who grew up in a two-parent household are more likely to commit crimes they're more likely to not finish high school and I grew up you know living with my mom I was raised by my mom but she did a great job you know what I'm saying and so I do think we got to push for the nuclear family everybody's talking about weight loss injections because the results are so dramatic they work by lowering blood sugar and reducing appetite but what if you're looking to lose weight but not interested in painful weekly injections especially when you hear about some of these intense side effects well listen up because that is exactly why doctors created a weight loss supplement called lean and the results

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27:17and Jimmy Kimmel he's gone viral for taking a swing at Mark Wayne Mullin former senator now the secretary of homeland security because Mark Wayne Mullin had a career for a little bit of time being a plumber and I want to play you this clip of Jimmy Kimmel for he was elected to the Senate Mark Wayne Mullin was a low level MMA fighter and a plumber that's right we have a plumber protecting us from terrorism now I work for Super Mario why not Mark Wayne it's sage I will give you the floor well you know it's interesting because I do I love comedians I love comedy I bet is what he is there to do and pay to handsome Lee to do so two things number one as my kids always tell me jokes are supposed to be funny and that was not and I'm like wait I am funny my kids are like no no no mom it's Jimmy Kimmel you're like wasn't that funny like I can take a joke I think if we can't then we got to look in the mirror like let's all calm down a

28:22little bit I think it would be different if someone else were saying it but because of his recent history because of how he chose to handle himself and double down and continue to double down after the assassination of Charlie Kirk with Erica with all the things that's why it doesn't hit like maybe you would have a year ago with Jimmy Kimmel it's funny I was on his show in 2014 it's been 12 years it's been a very long time and I remember it was such an honor for me to to go on I feel like I'm pretty sure he was doing the favor for a coworker of mine who knew me and said I was nice taker I didn't matter he was kind he was welcoming it was an honor to be in that studio like it was really cool and I'm just like what happened what changed to where the jokes weren't always always political and so one sided but then I answered my own question what happened was Trump and people like Jimmy had complete an utter temper tantrum meltdowns it just makes me sad

29:27so I can take a joke I get it plumber fine but it's Jimmy so it hits different because you know deep down he means it he looks down on people like that well absolutely what I found so interesting is he probably has a staff of 100 people 150 at least a dozen writers in my opinion work on the Jimmy Kimmel show these people have tons of writers which means this went through so many producers to get into the prompter to make it into the show notes to sit around they probably thought this is so funny from their sort of liberal elite ivory tower at ABC studios they thought this is so funny we're gonna make fun of this guy for being a plumber are you kidding me plumbers we're gonna need more plumbers in the future more electricians more carpenters you know what I'm saying I tell so many young people who follow me if you don't need to go to a four year university go to a trade school learn how to do something because those plumbers in New York City where I used to live they're making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year because you got folks like me I can barely screw in a light bulb I'm gonna need someone who knows how to do things and so it's like you're knocking

30:28these plumbers you're gonna need plumbers in the future Jimmy Kimmel because you and your friends have no real world skills okay so it's gonna be troublesome for you I really want to know what happens next time he has to call a plumber when he could doesn't even like what's that guy gonna say I hope he charges double by the way my middle child is about to graduate from college he's at high point university my older daughter went there too it's been an incredible experience like I have nothing but great things to say and it's 80 thousand dollars a year wow for this school so many schools now are 50 60 70 80 like it's insane and the trade schools you are guaranteed a job when you graduate from one of those schools I think it is it is so smart and I was already along that that track right as a parent well this is what you do when they're born you start a 539 plan to send them to this four-year university I would probably do things differently and if they wanted to go fine but I really wish that I had encouraged it more to look at all different types

31:32of schools not just a traditional four-year university especially considering what comes out of those universities but I digress no I I'm glad we're having this conversation because you're going through this now and people comment sometimes some of my haters will say you know you rail against higher education in these universities but you went to a university I'm like you guys that's why I've been in the room where it happens I can tell you be warned because I remember going to some of my classes and we'd have these adjunct professors they would just be pushing their own political views their own ideologies remember one of my classes we had to go around and do our pronouns for an hour and a half and I'm like oh my god this class is so expensive we're spending so much money going into debt and we're going around doing our pronouns I learned nothing in the class I think we watched movies half the time and so I do tell young people yeah I did go to a university that's why I'm trying to tell you unless you want to be you know a doctor a lawyer you really need that degree just give it a second thought because I have plenty of friends now who are going in a different route and they're actually getting jobs and working they're not having to be influencers in life but they're getting real jobs sage so it's interesting

32:37they're smarter they're smarter than we are because they knew that they would have a guaranteed job not if they'll work at Starbucks right absolutely no it's funny it's half the kids I think I went to college with they are working either at Starbucks or at a restaurant or something like that which there's no shame in but now they have all this debt and they don't get to use the degree that they thought was going to be so useful in the real world but I think COVID just came in like a wrecking ball and ruined everything so Jimmy Kimmel we will pray for you because to have that kind of mindset there's clearly something wrong and I just it's this sort of elite attitude where you fly between LA and New York and you look down on everybody else and that just never gonna fly with me but this last topic I want to get to really quickly okay apparently there are some states that are still fighting to keep men and women's sports I don't know why we're still having this conversation in 2026 but this is like the hill that the radical left wants to die on so the DOJ actually sued Minnesota on Monday for discriminating against female athletes by

33:38letting biological males compete against them and enter their bathrooms and locker rooms the suit filed in Minnesota federal court alleges that the states Department of Education and the Minnesota State High School League have been implementing policies and practices that ignored undeniable physiological differences between male and female athletes in violation of title nine now sage okay you know much more about sports than I do okay my knowledge of sports is cursory you are a genius what it comes to sports how are we still having this debate nowadays and are we living in the upside down this is the hill that I chose to die on sportscaster for 30 years the last 16 at ESPN at the worldwide leader who proclaim to stand up for women and defend title nine and celebrate title nine and then with this basic topic they can't do it they can't they choose not to I guess I'll start by saying I'm not surprised it is the state of Minnesota we know who leads that

34:42state aside from Tim Walls Amy Klobuchar the senator from there she has been very vocal about this from day one and I know deep deep down she knows the differences between men and women and boys and girls and why men and boys should not be allowed in our sports but I think it just goes back to two things virtue signaling and ego and they refuse to acknowledge anything that might halfway align with president Trump even if it's something that is based in fact based in science I'm sad for the people in the state of Minnesota because I have a lot of people come up to me and you know in airports when you live in an airport right people will say things and usually it's it's about this topic like thank you for you know standing up for women and sports and I'm like thank you like that's that's my job it's the least I can do with the plot this God given platform you know and my history covering women's sports for 30 years but there's I think the vast majority people in Minnesota are like us they have common sense they're normal and they know

35:44that this is wrong and it's sick actually but it's the Minneapolis St. Paul area area it's just like the state of Virginia and what happened within the last election the state of Virginia it's because of DC right and the the suburbs of DC and Virginia not the entire state of Virginia that made it go blue it's the same thing in Minnesota there's so many good godfiring Americans who just want their daughters to be safe in sports um so I I from day one I've been blown away with this about this topic um and when you when you look at what the IOC the International Olympic Committee did last week yes I mean once they do that and along with the executive orders and everything else just stop you don't even have to announce that okay we agree with you just go dark just shut up and let women's sports on faith is still an issue locker rooms etc be for us so it's very disappointing that because it's Minnesota and Tim Walls and Amy Klobuchar in particular who I believe has daughters

36:46as well um shameful absolutely shameful well I think you're one of those people who has put here to speak about this I feel like God put you in this position to have a platform and speak up for this issue it's on issue that I thought we'd ever have to be fighting for even 10 years ago no one was really discussing this but you're one of the loudest voices on the front lines of this issue you Riley Gaines and so many others I always look to you guys okay how are how are you guys feeling what are you guys saying because you are the experts but I'm never going to apologize for defending girls and women you know what I'm saying they should be able to feel safe in their locker room they shouldn't have brain damage because they're forced to compete against men and then the left will say things like well it's only a couple of girls who got brain damage only a couple of girls who got brain damage that's where we are so these are people that I will pray for also but as for you sage I will give you the last word and I'm so grateful that you came on please have an amazing rest of your week thank you so much for coming on thank you and I just want to hang out with you at some point can I we need to find a way to do that yeah so 100%

37:50we need to hang out in person I feel like we have so many mutual friends we all need to get together phones off at the table have some fun conversation but I absolutely adore you I didn't know you had some you get three kids in college god bless them because they're probably figuring out who they are and they have an amazing mom I have a cool mom too so your kids are lucky they have a cool mom but we're gonna let you go thank you so much and we'll see you soon well thank you guys so much for tuning into spot on with link Lauren I'm so grateful to sage for coming on the show she's an icon she's a legend and I don't use those terms loosely as for you guys I can't wait to read all of her comments and hear what you think about these topics we will see you on the next one bye