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Are we heading to boots on the ground in Iran?
A number of senators were briefed yesterday and they think so.
And we will discuss that.
We will also hear from Donald Trump's press secretary
who continues to refuse to rule out boots on the ground.
And then a critical mistake involving Ukraine, Russia, and drones
that is now wreaking complete and total havoc in Iran.
What's the connection?
I'll explain it.
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straight special election seat.
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but he's still saying completely wacky ridiculous stuff about vaccines.
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The more you get vaccinated against COVID, the more you get COVID.
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And the orange president, the mango menace agent orange,
call him what you want, completely out of control on truth social
as everything is collapsing around him.
We will discuss all of it and more.
Plus Senator Mark Warner will join us to talk about what he is seeing coming up
as far as the economy if the Iran situation continues.
All of that and more today.
Well, ladies and gentlemen,
are you ready for boots on the ground, troops on the ground in Iran?
Would you be okay if you were to get drafted?
Would you be okay if your kids were to be sent to Iran to fight this war
that doesn't really make any sense appears to be illegal?
And was something that prior presidents had the option to do,
Obama could have done it, Biden could have done it.
We could go back and George W Bush could have done it.
We had the firepower, we had the military intelligence, we had the resources,
but they opted not to do what Donald Trump has done.
What's more likely that all of those other presidents were stupid
and Trump is just a brilliant genius that figured out this is a good idea.
Or is it that Trump is extremely gullible and baited by strong men and charismatic
authoritarians and therefore he's the end that the one who ended up going into Iran?
Well, as Caroline Levitt continues not to take boots on the ground off the table,
we now have heard from a number of senators, including Senator Blumenthal,
about a classified briefing that took place yesterday with regard to Iran.
Elizabeth Warren was in that briefing.
She came out and said, I am distraught by what I saw in there.
My characterization, my paraphrasing, it looks like this is an administration that wants to get
into a broader ground war in Iran.
And Senator Blumenthal said that he came out extremely disturbed
that it seems as though the administration wants a ground war.
Let's listen to what Senator Blumenthal said, then we will discuss.
I emerge from this briefing as dissatisfied and angry, frankly,
as I have from any past briefing in my 15 years in the Senate.
I am left with more questions than answers, especially about the cost of the war.
My questions have been unanswered.
And I will demand answers because the American people deserve to know.
And I guess I am most concerned about the threat to American lives
of potentially deploying our sons and daughters on the ground in Iran,
seem to be on a path toward deploying American troops on the ground in Iran
to accomplish any of the potential objectives here.
And there is also, as disturbingly as anything else,
the specter of active Russian aid to Iran putting in danger American lives.
Literally, Russia seems to be aiding our enemy,
actively and intensively with intelligence and perhaps with other means.
And China also may be assisting Iran.
I got to tell you, Blumenthal looks pretty good for 80 years old, but that's not really the
point of this discussion. When senators go in for a briefing about what is happening and what
is going to happen in Iran, an optional war which was started without any congressional approval.
And they sound this worried that we are going towards boots on the ground.
Everybody should pay attention. And no matter who you voted for, maybe you voted for
Trump, maybe you voted for Kamala Harris, maybe you didn't vote at all. No matter what your voting
history is, you should be asking yourself, is this a battle worth sacrificing American lives for?
Knowingly, even just with the air war and what's been taking place so far,
we have lost American service members and Trump, as well as Pete Hegseth and others have said,
we are going to lose more Americans. It's just a reality. Is this a worthwhile sacrifice?
And for what, as we see gas prices now up 32% over the last few months, I'll get back to that in
more detail. And we question what even are the goals? Because all of the ones that have been
mentioned, we are not achieving so far, even though Donald Trump says that it is basically complete
as far as achieving our goals is concerned. We also need to consider, or maybe I'll say it a
different way, the key point is not that anything was announced about sending troops to fight a
ground war in Iran. That lawmakers came out sounding as though that's where they expect the
administration to go. While Donald Trump has said the primary objectives are complete,
should terrify everybody because it means Trump is either clueless or lying about the war,
either one is a problem. And every indication is that this administration is not presenting
the truth of what's going on, or they simply don't understand what it is that's going on. Now,
at the same time that this briefing was going on, this is so, it's, it's wild. The briefing is
going on and senators are coming out going, damn, it looks like the administration wants to fight
a ground war. Meanwhile, Caroline Levitt is saying the president is not ruling that out. So so far,
everything is building up a picture of this is going to be far more than just some airstrikes.
As for boots on the ground, the president has talked about this repeatedly, wisely. He does not
rule options out as commander in chief. So again, I would hesitate to confirm anything that a
Democrat on Capitol Hill says right now about the president's thinking. Expect sudden diagnoses
of bone spurs to go through the roof. If indeed it looks like we are getting closer and closer
to that sort of ground deployment. So what's going on here is that the White House is kind of laying
the groundwork for a bigger war with Iran without formally admitting it. And behind closed doors,
briefings with senators, they are painting a picture that certainly suggests a willingness
and maybe even an interest in a ground war. Publicly, the White House press secretary continues
to insist we would never take that off the table. Trump is not going to take that off the table.
We didn't hear no boots on the ground. We didn't hear any of that other than we don't rule
options out. Donald Trump is keeping all options on the table. And I think that that's maybe the
most important part of the clip. If you understand how slow escalation works, the message goes from
no one's talking about boots on the ground to that's not an option we would take off the table to
and this is now forward looking. We're not at the point where we're ready to commit ground troops
yet to it's looking like we may need to and it's slowly builds over time. And once a White House
starts keeping this on the table for a while, the longer this goes and the longer boots on the
ground stays on the table, the more we are getting closer and closer to some kind of full-scale
military operation and ground war. And so I'm not here to tell you, hey, ground war confirmed.
That's not where we are. The headline is massive warning signs piling up and it is impossible
to ignore. Does Donald Trump care about the human cost? I don't think so. Does Donald Trump
primarily concerned with himself with legacy and how he is perceived and liked or disliked? Yes.
And on a political level, this is substantively dangerous even before any kind of formal troop
announcement. So if you've got sons and daughters that could be deployed and you voted Trump,
I want to hear from you. Does this all sound worth it to you? We have just learned of a critical
mistake that the Trump White House made. It relates to Iran, but it is also about Ukraine and
Russia and it relates to drones. Let me explain what's going on. We recently learned that a few
months ago, Ukraine came to the White House and they said, listen, we have a battlefield-tested
answer to the drone problem that now the United States is struggling with in Iran and apparently
Donald Trump's team did nothing about it. It's sort of like, hey, warning about pandemics
maybe will disband the pandemic response team rather than listen to them. So let me explain
this. There's a reason that Ukraine may be saying, what's the connection between Iranian drone
warfare and Ukraine? Ukraine has spent years fighting against Iranian-designed drones because Russia
started using the same basic systems against them. Putin invaded Ukraine years ago. They've been
using the same technology that we are now fighting against in Iran. So Ukraine came to Trump
with firsthand knowledge. This wasn't theory. This wasn't hypothetical. They've been fighting it
for years. And according to the reporting, Zelensky's team showed up and they brought a presentation
to the White House months ago and said, hey, we are aware and have low-cost interceptor drone technology.
We have air defense ideas. We have sensor systems that we have tested successfully.
Trump was reportedly interested enough to say to his team, work on it and no follow-through ever
happened. And so now we have a situation where, as we've been talking about, Iran has the
lower-cost capability of continuing this war with the drones. The United States military is
struggling with the asymmetry of how to fight these relatively inexpensive drones with our very
expensive equipment. And we have no idea what to do. But Ukraine came to the White House and said,
hey, we do have an idea what to do. And we now are hearing from U.S. officials willing to speak
off the record, including to Axios, that this was a tactical mistake. Before the Iran war,
it would have been a brilliant thing to understand these systems and know how to fight against them.
Now, again, I want to just interject here. This has nothing to do with whether we should have
gone into Iran. This has nothing to do with whether Trump had congressional authorization to do this.
He didn't. This has nothing to do with whether the goal of regime change is even plausible,
given that the regime has already appointed the son of the Ayatollah to be the new Supreme Leader.
I'm just saying that just merely on a strategy, if you were going to do this,
the exact drone technology that Ukraine warned us about and said we can help you with
has become a problem today for the United States. They fly low. They move slowly. They're hard to
detect. And we're using expensive interceptors against these cheap targets. And so we had an
opportunity. And if you're saying, well, David, why do I care about this? Well, you care about it
because it is your tax money that now is being wasted at a faster clip than it otherwise would
have been if we had listened to what the Ukrainians had to tell us. It is Americans who now are at
risk of being killed if this escalates as a result in part of our inability to deal with these
cheap, not Ukrainian, Iranian drones. And so this starts as kind of a military mistake.
But then part of it is ego, part of it is politics, part of it is about competence or lack
thereof. And Trump world has mostly treated Ukraine as an irritating thing rather than listening
to people who actually know what's going on and could have provided important information. And
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humiliation is the irony, which is that Ukraine, which Trump and parts of his movement often
dismissed. They go, oh, these Ukrainians are so annoying and they should just settle and give
Putin some land and whatever. It seems as though the Ukrainians better understood the threat
from the Iranian drone program than Trump himself did, who seems regularly surprised by what's
going on. So clean takeaway here, critical error by Trump in the White House. They let ideology and
attitude override basic military common sense. The Ukrainians knew how to deal with the drones.
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energy, on groceries, on chachkis, knickknacks and souvenirs. Everything was going to be cheaper.
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has not really turned out to be that. And the affordability president has certainly not turned out
to be that. Now, I don't know if you would call this ironic or whether you would call it just
desserts, but some of the biggest gas price increases are having in Trump's supporting states.
Georgia is seeing a massive explosion there. Indiana has seen gas prices skyrocket, West Virginia,
the Trump loving state of West Virginia. And Trump's core promise, which is I will make life cheaper
for you. We will make America affordable again. Exactly. We will make America safe again. Exactly.
None of it is really actually America is getting safer, but it has nothing to do with Trump.
Crime rates have just been declining for 30 years, but that's a different story. If Trump hadn't
made these promises about affordability, the gas price spike would be less of a political liability.
I've explained to you before that even moderate gas price changes don't change that much for most
people in the immediate as far as the cost of gas is concerned. If you draw, I think the average
that Americans drive is like 800 miles a month or something like that. If you average in people
who drive very, very little and people who drive a lot, I think it's something like 800 miles a
month, but I may be misremembering. If gas prices go up 50 cents a gallon for the average vehicle
and the average 800 miles per month of driving, it's not that big of a change, but there's two
problems. One, over time, if you have sustained higher gas prices, everything gets more expensive
because most of our stuff is shipped via means that use oil-based petroleum-based fuels for
transportation. That's number one. And number two is that Trump promised. But you promised,
he promised that everything including gas prices would get cheaper. Now, the first reaction from
the White House was to say, this is going to be a small and temporary increase in gas prices.
Later, it'll be cheaper. Electricity will be cheaper. Oil will be cheaper. Gas will be cheaper.
But as they've continued to say that, the prices just go up and up and up.
And so that's a pretty bad message when voters are going to the gas pumps and paying more
every single day that they fill up for the last two weeks. Reuters is also reporting that rising
gasoline prices are going to push February inflation numbers up. So when you look at the broader
inflation numbers, you also have to consider Trump is raising the overall inflation rate.
And what most analysts are predicting is that gas prices will settle around 370 a gallon.
That means we've got 10 more cents to go. Again, we're at 360 a gallon right now.
This is not for premium. I was just looking at the other day of the gas station
where I was getting getting my car inspected. I have an EV so I don't go around filling my gas pump.
But still, I look at the prices. We had a premium in the $5 range. But this is this is regular gas
at 360 right now. Analysts are saying expected to go to 370. And then even if Trump backs off
of this entire Iran war, gas prices are going to stay elevated for a period of time. So the point
is Trump sold voters. I'm going to bring you lower costs and he's not doing it. Now a couple of
things Trump could do. He's already tried the first one. Say it's temporary prices are going to
come down quickly. Analysts say that's not going to happen. Second, deescalate the conflict.
Actually do something geopolitically that will bring oil prices down and eventually bring gas
prices down. Well, it seems like he's leaning on that. Trump could release reserves from the
strategic petroleum reserve. This is believed to provide about 15 cents a gallon of relief
temporarily. Trump could blame Biden or Iran or Obama, which I don't know that people will buy
at this point in time or Trump could try to get prices to decline elsewhere to bring down the
overall price level. But that seems very difficult right now. The real problem is that Trump made
promises. He couldn't keep. He wrote checks that couldn't be cashed. And now all of the options
quite frankly make him look either weak or wrong or desperate or all three. All three things
that Donald Trump really doesn't want to get tagged with. Caroline Levitt had a tough day yesterday.
It was a really tough one for Caroline Levitt. She was going to have to tell extra lies. So she
wore an extra big cross necklace. The bigger the necklace, the more lies I expect Caroline to tell.
And very often it comes true. Caroline was asked, why did Trump claim that Iran bombed their
own school with a Tomahawk missile? We don't even believe they have when no one else believes
that to be the case. Listen to Caroline's answer. This is a classic. Why did President Trump say yesterday
that Iran may have he have Tomahawk missiles when there are only three other US allies plus the US
that have those missiles. Again, President said yesterday he will accept the conclusion of this
investigation by the Department of War. I know there's been a lot of speculation in the media about
who may be responsible for this. We're not going to get ahead of the Department of War and the
conclusion of that investigation. The president has a right to share his opinions with the American
public, but he has said he'll. That's the trick right there. That is they love doing this.
They go, Trump has every right to speak. Caroline, nobody was asking about rights. There was an
example of this with Trump when Trump has been asked previously, hey, are you, are you considering
pardoning Jelaine Maxwell? And Trump goes, I have every right to do it. And of course, our reaction is
nobody's questioning that. We're asking you whether you're going to do it because having the
right to do it doesn't really mean anything, but doing it would raise a major red flag. And it's
the same. These people are like clockwork. Why did Trump make something up absent any evidence?
Trump has every right to give his opinion. Yeah, no, we're not questioning his right to do it.
We're questioning the prudence of doing it. Oh, but he is the right to do it. Not about rights,
Caroline. It's simply not about rights. Next reporter, again, this was a really rough one for
Caroline Levin. Caroline Levin was asked, why did Trump do this based on his feeling of what was
going to happen? And Caroline Levin goes, well, his feelings were based on facts. And I get back
to the oval office after this. The president said yesterday for the first time that he had to strike
Iran because he believes that Iran was going to strike US targets within seven days. And then he
then bumped that down later to three days. Where is he getting that? Well, that's not the first time
the president has said that he chose to launch Operation Epic Theory because he felt as though
Iran was going to strike the United States in our assets in the region first. Again, I
addressed this in the last briefing. This was a feeling the president had based on facts.
Facts provided to him by his top negotiators who had been engaged with the Iranian regime in a good
faith effort. The Iranian regime was lying, deceiving the United States of America,
clearly trying to continue their nuclear program to create a bomb that would of course threaten
the United States of America. Again, their ballistic missile arsenal, they were rapidly and
aggressively increasing that by the month to a place where they would essentially build immunity
for themselves where a future president or president Trump would not be able to launch this
incredibly successful operation. And so the president, again, as I have reiterated and he has said
was not going to sit back and allow the Iranian regime to threaten or to attack the United
States of America any longer. But there are no U.S. leaders or Israeli leaders who are making
those same claims. So is he making this up to justify his decision to go to war now? The president
is not making anything up, Nancy. He is looking at this every single day based on intelligence,
based on facts and based on intelligence that he himself and his negotiators have
consumed based on their, again, negotiations with the rogue Iranian regime over the past year.
And the president and his team tried in a good faith way to reach a diplomatic deal through
peaceful means with the Iranian regime and Iran shows this path to death. All right, I think you
get the point. The funny part is none of these supposed facts about the immanence of attacks or
the rebuilding of nuclear. None of those facts are actually supported as facts by experts who
increasingly are saying none of the justifications make sense. Number one and Caroline's claim that
all of the goals have been substantially achieved is also untrue. If the goal was to destroy the
supposedly rebuilt nuclear capabilities, we have no reason to believe that that has taken place.
If the goal was to achieve regime change and get away from the
Iatola's family from being in control, well, that didn't happen because they have appointed
the son of the Iatola, the Iatola who was killed. The Iatola's son has been appointed
the new Supreme Leader. So that didn't happen to destroy their missile capability. That reporter
that hasn't happened. What is she talking about when she says that the objectives have been
substantially achieved? That doesn't make any sense. Now on a different topic, Caroline Levitt
was asked about the Save Act. The Save Act would be extraordinarily oppressive when it comes to
voting rights. And one of the things that seems to be acknowledged by Caroline Levitt here
is that while she denies that the Save Act would make voting more difficult for married women,
she actually acknowledges it. Listen carefully to what she says and see if you can pick it up.
And as far as married women who have changed their name, if they're already registered to vote,
they're entirely unaffected by the Save Act and for the small fraction of individuals who
have changed their name or their address, they can still register to vote, of course,
they just have to go through their state processes to update that documentation. And this is
something that the American people married women and minorities and people all across this country
who Democrats are insultingly saying cannot do this. They're already doing it every day,
going to the Social Security Office, going to the DMV. And I think it's frankly insulting that
the Democrats are saying that there are certain groups of people in this country who aren't smart
enough to update their documentation to allow them to vote. No one is arguing that people,
Democrats, women, minorities aren't smart enough to update documents in order to be able to vote.
What we are saying is that number one, many of the underlying documents you need under some
of these voter ID schemes are not free documents. Sure, the voter ID may be free,
but the documents you need in order to register are often not free documents depending on the
state you're in. Number two, you have to go and update your registration. A lot of people
can't take two, three, four, five hours, depending on where you live during normal work hours
to go to the DMV, for example, even if it's free, you're losing wages when you do it. Not everybody
has transportation. The point here is I don't know any people on the left in my space, right?
I sometimes people will email and they go, look, look at this person, this content creator,
if you've never heard of who believes this thing, the mainstream view in the part of the left that
I occupy is not that the problem is inherent to so-called voter IDs or registration or these
schemes. It's that there are a lot of other ways in which they will disenfranchise people,
even by forcing people to lose wages or pay for documents they need in order to justify the
ID, et cetera. The ID itself is not really the problem, the implementation, and the whole point
of it is. And of course, if Republicans didn't believe that this stuff would help them win,
they wouldn't be doing it. They wouldn't waste their time on something they believe would be bad
or even neutral for them. They know it will be good for them. Finally, Caroline Levitt asked,
we are getting a report that 150 US service members have been injured so far in Iran. Is that
true? And Caroline Levitt goes at sort of in the ballpark. Questions for you today, Alex.
Thank you. Reuters has reported that about 150 US service members have been injured so far. Can you
confirm that number and elaborate on that? I can't confirm the exact number. I know it's within
that ballpark, but I would defer you to the Pentagon for a specific number of wounded or injured
The White House that is providing daily updates about Trump's successes in Iran
simply isn't sure about the exact number of troops who have been injured. Interesting.
What on earth is going on here? Democrats have flipped their 10th consecutive special election.
Maga just lost another one. This is very good news about what we may be approaching in November.
Democrats have flipped another Republican seat. This one's a New Hampshire, a special election.
Bobby Boodman defeated Republican Dale Fincher 52 to 48. Now interestingly, this was a district
that Trump won by nine. This is politically ugly for Republicans. Trump was plus nine.
The Republican is minus four. That is a 13 point swing since November of 2024. Now also
interestingly, Boodman had lost his seat twice before to the Republican incumbent. So this was not
like an obvious democratic pickup on paper. This was a competitive race and especially with Trump
having won this district by nine and Boodman haven't taken some losses in the past.
This was a completely plausible race for the Republican to win in the Democrat to lose.
But Republicans realized this isn't looking so good. They started massive dumps of money into the race.
And they saw a whole bunch of money raised by the Republican Dale Fincher from outside groups,
outside groups spent extra money on their own. Republicans tried to get help from major players.
They sucked in the Republican state leadership committee, Americans for prosperity, the Koch
network group, and the winner Boodman ultimately raised only about $12,000 had no outside support
and still won. And so on a sort of individual level, this is pretty embarrassing for Republicans.
But the bigger picture level is what this means for November as Democrats are just continuing to
flip these special elections. Now one of the main sort of issues in this race was school vouchers.
Boodman opposed school vouchers and the Republican Fincher wanted something called the education
freedom accounts of New Hampshire, which are essentially vouchers. And that seemed to be a relevant
issue. The Republican only recently moved into the district had to run as a right in candidate.
So there are definitely some things here that would make us say, well, I don't know that the full
13 point swing represents the true change and the will of the voters. But you can't deny the numbers.
10th straight special election flip for Democrats since Trump's second term began. Republicans have
flipped zero Democratic seats during that same period of time. So if you just look at that,
it is a disaster for the Republican party. And the real story as I look at this is that Democrats
are overperforming in actual elections and Republicans are getting rejected by real voters time
and time and time again. So can we extrapolate vote by vote point by point to what's going to happen
in November? Of course, we can. Is it possible that Democrats take the house, but by the slimmest
of slim margins completely possible? That's absolutely a possible outcome. Is it also possible that
this is a building blue wave? If we get out there and make it happen and Republicans could lose
40, 50 or even 60 seats in the House of Representatives, 100%. And so if I were Maga,
not that I'm giving them advice, but it's just sort of like reacting to what we're seeing in the
real world. If I were Maga, I would be very skeptical of this message of total dominance that
is being sold to them by people like Donald Trump and Stephen Miller and others, because you have
what they are saying and what they've been saying now for what is it? 17 months or something like
that since Trump won five and yeah, 17 months. For the last 17 months, they've been saying we're
dominating. We're crushing. I have 94% approval rating from Republican says Trump. And then you
look at the election result and you go, Democrats are winning everything. Democrats are taking every
special election. Democrats are flipping red seats in red states and just wait until I tell you
probably tomorrow about what is going on with Marjorie Taylor Green's old seat in Georgia.
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description. Is Donald Trump running an illegal war in Iran? What is the actual law? Did Israel
bait, goad or trick Trump into going to war with Iran? What is happening behind the scenes in the
sense of are there any things that democratic senators can do to try to restrain Trump's power here
and how higher gas price is going to go? I spoke to democratic senator Mark Warner about all of that
and much more. Now we will be speaking with senator Mark Warner representing the state of
Virginia. Senator really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. We're in the middle of a number
of calamities. One being what appears to be Schrodinger's war. It is and it is not a war. It is over
but it is also just ramping up depending on whether you listen to the president or to the secretary
of defense. Can you tell me just a little bit about what you and your colleagues kind of believe
deep down about how long this is all going to last? David first of all thank you for having me
on and appreciate what you do to help get the word out. Let's start with the fact that this is a war
of choice. I'm the ranking member on the intelligence committee. I remember the gang of eight. If there was
any imminent threat to America from Iran, I would know it. There was not and there was not even
an imminent threat to Israel over the longer term. The rise of Iranian ballistic missiles
but this was didn't have to happen at this moment in time particularly when there was still some
option around diplomacy. That would be the first one. So the president because the Israelis
are going to move decided to go ahead and attack first with the Israelis and what's been remarkable
is that he can't seem to get a story straight on what the goals of this war is and I know
that first they tried to deny it was a war they don't he uses the word term war all the time
himself but it was I wasn't going to be regime change. Well that's obviously not going to happen
since the Iranian picked a new supreme leader who was more conservative than the former supreme
leader and the new guy. It was the son of the supreme leader at the Americans have killed his
father his wife and his child so not a lot of opportunity there. Then the goal was to try to get rid
of the Iranian nuclear capabilities which the president claimed had been obliterated last June.
There was talk and acknowledgement that we were really going to go after the enriched uranium
it would take troops on the ground. That seems to be kind of not on the table right now so the
ability to really destroy Iran's nuclear capabilities is not going to happen and then on the
ballistic missiles there have been some of those taken out but they still have I can't get into
the numbers or details but they still have a lot of capability there and then they added a fourth
criteria recently about getting rid of the Iranian navy and while many of the major naval
ships that Iran had have been sent. Some they've you know they've still got lots of these small boats
that could really wreak havoc in the streets of Hamuz where all of them the oil goes through.
So on all four of those goals I don't think we're anywhere close to achieving the president's
objectives so we don't know how long this is going to last. I will point out that on Monday afternoon
because I think the president got spooked with the markets going down. It looked to me like he was
almost manipulating the markets by going out and saying hey we're almost done here.
Markets recovered and then once the markets recovered he said you know he kind of went back to him.
No we've still got more to go and even today they're saying you know Hegseth has said this is
going to be the most mighty attack day yet of the conflict and I would just point out as well.
You know Iran still has some cards to play you know they've really not called on their proxies the
who needs to attack yet they've not called on the Shia militia groups in Iraq to attack.
So we are you know you know I don't award with at this point no dependable end unless the president
gets so spooked by the gas prices that he just declares you know unconditional victory and
if that were the case I most feel like Iran might come out stronger than it went into this conflict.
Well that's a very interesting point because I do think there are now reports that people around
Donald Trump are saying you've got to figure out an off ramp here. There was a report that Friday
Susie Wiles was literally running around the White House screaming about gas prices and they're
trying to figure out what to do. It wouldn't surprise me that Trump gets so spooked that he does
declare unconditional victory. I just don't know as you're pointing out that this is necessarily
Trump's escalation to end at this point because there is talk of Iran being able to tolerate you
know Iran is a poorer and less resource country than the United States but they have a sizeable
military and they have the ability if they so choose to tolerate a war of attrition to continue
making life very difficult for the United States. There's talk of sleeper cells which Donald
Trump was asked about recently and he said we're looking into that which to me suggests he doesn't
really know anything about it but it is an area of concern. I don't know that it's even Trump's
place now to decide when this is really over because the Iranians also have a say in that.
Absolutely and again this is where the lack of pre-planning has been astonishing to me you know
if we kind of the sense this was a war of choice and we knew when the Israelis were going so we
were going why we didn't do a better job of getting our personnel out of the region not only a
diplomatic and you know intel agencies but just the American tourists who were transiting through
the region you know we're behind most of the European countries and getting our our nationals out
that's gotten a little bit better but boy people were I got an awful lot of calls from pretty scared
Virginians for a number of days about how do we get out of this war zone obviously we didn't
pre-cut why are this with most of our European allies and then you know when they started asking
questions you know the President has struck out about against the UK for example
because the UK was actually trying to follow their own laws that they couldn't participate until
there was a you know some strike against them they had participated now since the strike against
Cyprus there seems to be a lack of understanding amongst those allies you know the Gulf allies
I think it depends upon the country but many of them are in a vulnerable position right now and
you did raise the issue of whether we call sleeper cells or cyber attacks Iran's got a pretty
capable cyber capability and whether there are quite a quote sleeper cells I want I don't want to
get into but you could see Iranian-inspired individuals in America saying all right we're going
to take action on our own and unfortunately this administration particularly with cash patrol and
FBI has degraded and gotten rid of so many of the senior people around counterterrorism can
arrest be a nudge I don't think anybody who's an expert in this field would say on those fields
that we are safer now than we were say a year ago I'm generally pretty skeptical of claims
that the Trump administration has done a to distract from B or B to distract from C partially
because I just don't think that they're that capable and well coordinated but it is true that
since the start of this Iran war the number of Google searches related to the Epstein files
have dropped dramatically and so I'm not suggesting that this was a proactive campaign
but it does seem to be the case that a lot of attention has kind of gone away from that topic
what's your sense of where that issue stands right now we still haven't gotten the full
unredacted files etc I still do not understand why
this these files are still dribbling out why the FBI I'm sorry the Justice Department
has not followed the law other than the fact that you are senior people at DOJ trying to slow
this process down I would I would say though that you know while there are a lot of legitimate
questions still around the Epstein files the idea of going to war and driving up gas prices on
average 47 cents a gallon so Americans are paying 125 million dollars a day more out of their
pockets to buy gasoline that's a that's a pretty wild you know wag the dog counter fairy because
I'm not sure that puts Trump overall in a better position no no I agree with you what is your
sense with regard to the oil and gas prices you know I often for over a decade I've been telling
my audience presidents have relatively little influence over gas prices a lot of this has to do
with global supply issues black swan type events etc one of the things presidents can do is declare
a gas tax holiday which will temporarily make gas a little cheaper they can dig into the strategic
petroleum reserve or the third one is they can get into a military conflict with a nation that is
either a big oil producer or controls supply what is your sense now of the trajectory of oil and gas
which is already affecting so many people as you said an extra 125 million a day total
is that the the factor that may get the White House to do a 180 I think is I think your comments are
accurate about the president's team freaking out about gas prices I think back to you know
when we had high gas prices and President Biden was a little bit kind of the twitching between
this is where Americans see the most and when you see such a dramatic increase in such a short
period of time I almost felt bad for Chris Wright the energy secretary I was on a Sunday show with
him and he was trying to say hey no problem here yeah which you couldn't pass the smell test
I'm worried on a couple of fronts you know the only country that is directly benefiting
from this war on on oil so far is Putin and Russia you know the administration has even given
relief to allow more oil sales to India this fills up Putin's coffers while the Ukrainians were
actually you know not getting a lot of reporting but we're taking out so many Russian troops
that the not saying the balance it flipped but the Ukrainians are more than holding their own so
giving a lot more money to Vladimir Putin isn't an America's interest and I don't think even if
there was a cessation of hostilities that you're going to see the gas prices go down anywhere
back to where they were two weeks ago and the idea that the president said well maybe this is a
chance for Venezuela oil to come up and that will be a new supply source I mean the Venezuela oil
infrastructure was so degraded that it'll take at least a couple of years and even then many
of the oil companies are reluctant to go and go back into Venezuela and you know there have been
I don't think we know enough to know you know with the president some of the strikes on the
Iranian oil facilities how much of that supply could be cut back and you know the just uneas that
are still going to remain after the conflict particularly if Iran's regime is still there the uneas
that will be coming out of Saudi be coming out of you know Bakarang being coming out of the
Emirates you know are they going to go back to full production and and you know even if the
straits are most reopened will they reopen at the same flow and won't there have to be additional
protections and the idea that again the president and others have said that you could escort
ships through I'm not a naval expert but that's a pretty narrow straight and if the
Iranian still have at least all of these kind of small and mid-sized speedboats that could at
least harass those tankers again that's not a good sign so I think we're going to see you know
is it even if the conflict the fighting part comes to an end and Iran's still there I don't think
you see oil you know hate to say you know it's still going to be probably north of 80 bucks north
of 75 bucks a barrel and that'll be passed on to American consumers when it comes to the question
of Israel's role in this you know my perspective has been I'm a very big supporter of Israel
existing and I am a very big critic of the Netanyahu administration what do you make right now
or what's your best assessment of the degree to which Netanyahu go did baited or forced use
whichever word you believe is appropriate Donald Trump into getting involved in this and for
context we looked at a secretary Blinken's comments that there were attempts to pull president
Obama into something similar but he understood what the point was and resisted there were attempts
to pull president Biden into something similar it seems in a sense Trump fell for it
I am also a very strong supporter of Israel and I've been criticized by someone in the democratic
party for being such strong support I do feel you know the cover 7 the tap was awful and I do
think there is a rise of anti-Semitism in American around the world but I also think when Americans
are being put in harm's way that we should not be in any way outsourcing our foreign policy
decisions to any other government any other ally anywhere and I worry that
this the current Israeli administration along with some allies in Congress just
beat on him beat on him beat on him and I fear that they may have made the the argument hey
Mr. President look how easy it was in Venezuela look how easy it was with your
strike against the Iranian nuclear facilities which again the president claimed that it
obliterated those facilities obviously not that I can't say but the idea that he could have been
convinced this was going to be an easy in and out operation you know has a ring of truth to it
it seems the theme is and I'll let you go after this that Trump is very manipulatable by people
who he sees as strong in the sense of you know think back to Putin in Helsinki where Trump
Trump comes out and he says forget about what our own intelligence agency said Putin denied hacking
very strongly and I believe him and then the Kim Jong Un summit where Kim Jong Un makes the same
promises that North Korean leaders have been making and not sticking to for decades and Trump
goes look at these great promises he just gave me and he believes it it seems that that's the theme
here yeah and it's he obviously is attracted to strong men he thinks of himself as a strong
way of theory you know he seems to have a huge affection for authoritarian leaders and it's not
uncommon knowledge here in DC that you know the way to influence Donald Trump is be the last
person to talk to him before he makes a decision or before he goes on TV yes and whoever's the
last person in his ear ends up those words coming out of his mouth that's not the way that we
ought to be running our country or shirts heck should not be the way we should be running our
foreign policy when we now are up to eight American service members who've been killed in this conflict
and even with the president and hexf's own predictions unfortunately the high probability of
more to come Senator Mark Warner Democratic Senator from Virginia thanks for your time today
I really appreciate it David thank you as well.
You need only look at Donald Trump's truth social page where he has been losing his mind and
suffering meltdown after meltdown after meltdown because so much is crumbling around him and much of
it has to do with this failed incursion into Iran a war of choice that Donald Trump started let's
take a look at some of his posts from the last few hours Donald Trump posting quote if Iran has put
out any minds in the hormones straight and we have no reports of them doing so we want them
removed immediately if for any reason minds were placed and they are not removed forthwith
the military consequences to Iran will be at a level never seen before if on the other hand they
remove what may have been placed it will be a giant step in the right direction additionally we
are using the same technology capital T technology and capital M missile capabilities deployed against
drug traffickers to permanently eliminate any boat or ship ship attempting to mine the
hormones straight they will be dealt with quickly and violently beware there's a lot of if Iran
has done this that or the other thing and the growing takeaways that Trump has no idea what's
going on there and quite frankly I don't think Trump cares Trump has run a lot of this war from
Florida from his various golf courses in Florida to the extent that he's running anything at all
and you'll remember when the decision was made to start this war it was JD Vance in Washington DC
in the situation room and Trump just playing quite literally playing golf in Florida and
then announcing a war and then playing golf in Florida and DJing and the Mar-a-Lago ballroom or
whatever and a lot of ifs and ands which suggests Trump doesn't really know what's going on another
example Trump posting quote if Iran does anything that stops the flow of oil within the
state of her moves they will be hit by the United States of America 20 times harder than they
have been hit thus far additionally we will take out easily destroyable targets that will make
it virtually impossible for Iran to ever be built back as a nation again death fire and fury
will rain upon them but I hope and pray that it does not happen this is a gift from the United
States of America to China and all of those nations that heavily use the Hormuz straight hopefully
it is a gesture that will be greatly appreciated thank you for your attention to this matter yeah
why hasn't China said thank you to President Trump and again we've spoken with Ruth Ben Giot
about the obsession that authoritarians have with being thanked have I been appreciated
enough today for everything I've done for people most important element to this the number of ifs
on these posts that suggest Trump doesn't really know what's going on completely off the charts
now meanwhile after saying we don't know whether Iran did or didn't put any minds or whatever
Trump posts the following quote I am pleased to report that within the last few hours we have hit
and completely destroyed ten inactive mine laying boats and ships with more to follow inactive
so wait a second first it's I don't think they've placed any minds but if they did there's going
to be hell to pay then it's hey you know what I guess they did because we just destroyed some
mine laying boats but they were inactive so were they laying minds or weren't they what did you
just destroy do you have any idea whatsoever I don't think he does and then shifting gears
completely to energy where I believe that this is the prototypical example of being penny wise
and pound foolish Trump saying quote America that's my emphasis America is returning to real
energy dominance today I am proud to announce that America first refining is opening the first
new US oil refinery in 50 years in Brownsville Texas Trump calls it a massive win for American workers
he thanks partners and he says that this will fuel US markets strengthen our national security boost
American energy production blah blah blah we are dominant et cetera this is really an example
of missing the forest for the trees it's like a you're in a sinking boat and you're trying to
empty it out with a thimble it's being penny wise and pound foolish Trump's hair brain decision
to go into Iran has now seen gas prices spike 32% from their lows just three months a two months
ago and then Trump's going we're opening one refinery open the refinery I think we should be
moving away from fossil fuels regardless but open the refinery but the idea that that's going to
take away attention from or even counter act what you are doing to the gas and oil markets with
the war is laughable and then finally Trump asserting some insults quote I predict that
representative Thomas massi will go down as the worst Republican congressman in the long and
fabled history of the United States Congress even worse than crazy Liz Cheney cry in Adam
Kinzinger and Marjorie trader brown remember green turns to brown under stress they are all
misfits and losers but massi who is running against a great American patriot in the Kentucky primary
will hopefully lose big I love Kentucky president DJT loyalty as the only currency the most important
reminder about how Donald Trump operates and he knows a lot of this stuff is going south on the
bonus show today taloriko polling really well in Texas lawmakers trying to lower housing prices
and much more I'll see you then
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