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I know.

JR, that's a nice lipstick you have on today.

Here we go again.

Very nice lipstick.

I remember there was a rang attend never mind.

Welcome to the show, bam, we're live.

Cross the games up.

They show Friday, March 19th, not close March 20th.

John Mac in the house from RDT CrossFit set page jump ship training.

We prefer the hate.

JR.

How crash crucible will be airing soon?

What were the dates on that?

Crescendo is soon.

Crescendo.

That's some all this musical stuff.

When is when is that April 24th through the 26th April 24th through the 26th will be

streamed.

The inaugural streaming hasn't been streamed in like four years, maybe in a long time since

we've streamed it.

Yeah.

And this will be the training academy for the barbell spin.

JR is happy to have them and excited to have them out there.

The teams will be there any prize money this year, JR.

Oh, yeah, they'll be prize money.

I'm not sure how much yet.

I'm going to wait and see if I can get a few more sponsors on board late, but it will

be no less than last year, which I think was seven grand, five grand, and three grand

of the co-ed teams.

Wow.

Speaking of money.

Seth.

Yes.

Do you know what this means?

JR Mogging right now.

Do you know the term Mogging?

I've heard it.

I think it's just like, no, I don't really know, like showing off a little bit or trying

to look at your best.

I don't know.

Something like that.

What does it mean, Sean?

I've heard Taylor talk about it, but I still don't know what it means.

JR, do you know what it is?

I don't know what that term means now.

Well, that's crazy because it's a term the brothers use.

When I looked it up, it shows three black guys.

Mogging is a Gen Z Alpha internet slang derived from A-Mog, Alpha male group, meaning to look

or perform significantly better than the others.

I don't think you're trying to upstage us.

I just cut off five to six years on the face.

That's all I did today.

That's it.

The lips are really popping.

The opens over.

Was that a was that a song reference, like do you just show your age to that lip gloss

song?

Is that what you just did?

No.

No.

Really?

No, but was that was that the was it a George Michael song?

No.

Oh.

Who what, you know, who was it?

No, I want to say it was probably a one hit wonder.

It was a, it was a young girl.

Was it that song I wasn't that song I want to marry a stripper or I want to date a

stripper?

Do you remember that song?

No, that's teaping.

Oh, yeah, that's my time.

Yeah, I remember that song.

I'm in love with the stripper.

That's the one.

I'm in love with the stripper.

Yes.

Oh, yes.

Have you dated a lot of strippers, Sean Mack?

No, unfortunately not.

Nope.

Nope.

Okay.

That strippers very, very narrow lane.

Sean Mack travels in.

We had to go on at one gym that I coached at though.

Oh, cross fitting strippers.

Yep.

Yep.

The first gym I coached at.

Hey, there was this stat that Greg used to give that there's a doctor at every gym and

probably three or four.

I bet you I bet you in totality.

There's a stripper at every gym in some form or some adjacent, unless you're in Hawaii

then you get weeded out, but get bigger problems or or or some adjacent, sorry.

That's not fair.

Stippers were allowed to work out at Seth's gym.

There were nuances.

But yeah, it's just, you know, it's slim pickings in Hawaii.

I would imagine.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Uh, the opens over.

And that is the first step to us, calling the herd to go to the CrossFit Games, 25% of

the people.

What does that really mean?

25% of the people, a lot of people, do you guys know if it was 25% of the people who entered

at least one score, two scores, three scores or no scores and just the sign ups?

I think Peter asked, and he did not answer, uh, he didn't know or he avoided the question,

but they posted the number, the games, Instagram posted the actual number, like 30, like low

30,000s or something maybe on the graphic that I saw for men, so I mean, he's don't have

any women.

Yeah, 31, 779.

So we could go look at the total number, I guess at the end of the leaderboard or look

at the last person who put in a score and get engaged.

If you're approaching this, like a lot of people love to throw out the turn money grab

or whatever with, with quarterfinals and such, if you believe that, then they would just

take anyone who signed up and make sure that that goes all the way to zero, whether you're

into a score or not.

So they get the most people into quarterfinals, which is what I would imagine they would do.

So I don't even know what that term money grab means.

Let's just people think that they shouldn't have to pay to continue to compete for whatever

reason.

Okay.

All right.

Well, you can.

You can just, you can shadow compete.

You can do everything that everyone else is doing just, you can throw your own super bowl

in the backyard if you want.

Sure.

Like your friends over my two teams and I think it's funny though, because people are like,

oh, they open so short and I don't get to do much competing for the year.

And then they make it to quarterfinals and they're like, I don't want to spend 50 bucks

on that.

You want to compete?

What are you doing now?

Now you don't want to compete.

Okay.

Sure.

Um, if I look at this and it is 25%, then that makes me think that there were less women

who entered the open this year than men, right?

That's the takeaway.

That's why that number is smaller because 25% of the smaller numbers are smaller number

than 25% of a bigger number.

Yep.

Here's that way.

I'm mathing.

Okay.

So 31,000 of the men.

And is that that's for the individual?

Those are the individuals.

This doesn't include masters.

Correct.

It includes some masters, but they also potentially qualified in their age group.

It's like I'm in the 35 to 39 same with JR and his master's division.

We're still we're doing the same workout.

So we could still qualify for this individual quarter final, but you pay once and then you

can go register a second time for your age group as well.

So you have two, two leaderboards you're on if you make it for both, but you might make

your master's age group and not make the individual.

Oh, that's cool.

That's really good.

Seven, you're saying that, you know, the answer to your question is yes.

If you look on the individual leaderboard, you will find me and Seth and Sean Mac, even

though we are masters, you will still find us on that individual leaderboard.

So that it is instilling, including them, I'm on the individual board too.

Yeah.

So it's everybody.

And then so they still use, I think, I just I didn't appreciate how you left my name

off like that.

You told me that you put in one rep for one workout, did you put in one rep for the other

workouts?

No, I put, oh, oh, you're saying I for sure didn't make top 25.

Did you make top 25, Seth?

I did.

Wow.

First time ever.

Oh, congratulations.

Congrats.

Are you?

There's something interesting.

Can I say something real quick?

It's something really interesting.

Yeah.

One of the comments said, aren't the workouts password protected?

I think there's a little confusion, sorry, in the chat, in the chat.

So we heard that the workouts are going to be released on, I think it's the 23rd on

the CrossFit Games podcast, yeah, on Monday.

But technically, quarter finals doesn't start till the 26th.

And I think it's fair that everyone should know that these, because some people do know,

these workouts are not password protected.

And so you are technically cheating.

If you do the workout early, have a judge, have an affiliate owner, shoot your video if

you want to shoot your video, which is not even technically required, and take that score

that you do between Monday, the 23rd and whatever, just Thursday, the 26th.

You can't do it until the workout actually kicks off.

And there's a lot of people who are a little bit up in arms about the fact that nothing

could stop somebody from doing the workout early and having essentially a full week.

Instead of a short, shortened, you know, four or five day weekend to get this stuff done.

So I'm just going to throw it out there.

If you do it early, you are cheating.

So let me throw this out there.

If you're giving me the workouts and you're telling me I can't do them, it's not that

you can't do them.

It's that you can't do them and use that score, because people will do them.

Correct.

Correct.

Most people should do them.

They'll test them like four.

But yeah, yeah, it's just that you can use one of those Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday scores

or times you're you cannot use.

You can only use after what is it Thursday at 3 p.m.

Probably.

Yes.

Something like that.

So why don't they just give the workouts out?

In the past they've not released them until Thursday at 3 p.m.

But we've gotten floor plans on Monday so that we can kind of plan for them and we can

try to guess what they are.

We can see where the tape lines are going to be.

We can see how close the rings and the rope and the rig can be to one another and all

that kind of stuff.

Yeah, they basically out of requests by affiliate owners that may like they may only have a they

may release GHD sit ups and the affiliate has one GHD and they have 39 people that qualified

for quarters.

They have to go through these workouts.

So they're trying to give as much info as possible so that affiliate owners can organize

because of the strict rules for this year of competing or completing it with end and

affiliate.

So they're trying to give them a heads up.

But yeah, they've opened some other doors that is not not great.

Okay.

I'm a little confused.

So Monday the 23rd at noon, I've seen that there's going to be a podcast at CrossFit.

There'll be a live show.

Are they releasing the workouts there or the floor plans for both workouts and when are

the floor plans released?

That same time.

Okay.

Because you have the workouts, you'll be able to see how you need to set it up.

Okay.

Just like the open.

Okay.

I got confused.

Okay.

And then what you're saying is is that if you can't do it until midnight Thursday at midnight

12 o 1 for your score to count.

Whatever time they, I don't know what the exact hour is on Thursday, but yes, the competition

kicks off Thursday.

So that's when you have to complete your workouts in an affiliate with a judge in an affiliate

manager who will validate your score.

Is there a prize money for winning the quarter finals?

Yes.

Yes.

Do you hate this?

What are your thoughts on this Sean Mac?

It's definitely interesting.

And you run a big affiliate with a lot of people who are competing.

Yeah.

Like we probably had 30 or 40 people make it and I originally read their website with

the dates and I thought they were Tuesday to Saturday because they said quarter finals

and they had listed Tuesday to Saturday as these dates.

That's why I was like, workouts don't come out this day and that day and then they finally

posted some good stuff on Instagram workouts Monday and then so were the weekend.

But yeah, it's going to be interesting logistically.

I tried to program some very space saving workouts throughout the week into the weekend.

But I think that some of the more cat, I mean, a lot of folks, if you don't sign up, you

can do the workouts whenever you want.

And even some of our folks to sign up have jobs and kids and it's tricky to navigate

through that time window.

So we're going to try to keep people within the time window, but I'm sure you're going

to have a lot of people doing them at other times and just putting their scores in with

this.

I didn't think of that solution.

So I thought you were saying that Seth, you were saying that they shouldn't release the

workouts until Thursday.

But what Sean is saying is like what Sean is insinuating is like, hey, if you're going

to release the workouts on Monday, just make the whole window open.

Is that what you're suggesting too, Sean?

Seth?

Seth?

I'm suggesting, yeah, yeah, if you're going to do that, then why, yeah, push the whole

week.

It's going to happen.

Yeah.

But instead, something like releasing the workout without maybe the amount of rounds or

how long the am rap is or the rap scheme or whatever, where you're basically giving 95%

of the info.

So you can get ready for anything short of how much time you need between heats at your

gym.

And then nobody can do anything except practice the movements or maybe practice around

of it.

And then you release what the actual thing is on Thursday and everyone's ready to go.

So that would have solved it.

J.R.

Seth Selena Gomez, my time machine, you borrowed her lipstick.

I can tell, um, uh, J.R., uh, we thoughts on that.

Yeah, I think, uh, we already know for sure that the only video review that will be conducted

will be in the event of prize money.

We know that.

We know that they're just asking for some integrity from affiliate owners, the judges that

have to be judging and the athlete, which is very reasonable.

Unfortunately, people don't act with that quality often.

We see it in the open every year, unfortunately, almost.

We see it in the quarter final stage with movement quality or with 15 foot ropes that people

are doing one climb and touching and we know that's not 15 feet.

So we see it in a lot of different ways.

Uh, I think releasing them the way that they're doing it this year is awesome because it's

just like kind of the way that a lot of local competitions do it.

Like let's do a podcast.

People watch it.

They get excited.

The programmer talks about why they programmed it.

I mean, that kind of stuff is fun for people to know.

So instead of just them going live on a website, I think doing them on a Monday is like

a huge, cool step in that direction.

But I am shocked about the password thing.

I assume that's exactly why they were doing it is like, Hey, we're going to give you

the workouts, but you're not going to know you have to say San Jose until, you know, Thursday

at 3 p.m.

No video requirement then the password means nothing unless, yeah, that's a thing because

there's no one to say the password to.

True.

Yeah.

Last year's semi finals for teams where they did running like a four meter run with

teams, right?

800.

And they didn't they didn't do video review for teams.

Yeah, and that was to go to the games and they were just like, Hey, you need what, two

judges or three judges on the floor.

You have a whole team.

We expect that, you know, between all those people, somebody will do it correctly.

So yeah, what I've got from answers when we bring the stuff up in the athlete council

meetings is basically they're banking on the fact that a gym isn't going to have a massive

conspiracy of cheating because everybody would have to keep the secret.

And so they're saying the more people we have to loop into this in terms of the affiliate

manager, the judge, the advanced judge, people who are going to see you or want to watch

you do this, there's a lower likelihood that that aggressive cheating is going to happen

because of those layers of protection.

And I do agree with that actually, it will happen still, but a lot less of it.

Was Kale's, what was Kale Lehman's issue was in the open, but not the quarter, did we

have quarter finals last year?

We did not.

No, okay.

So he just went straight from there.

Okay.

And how many judges are required in the quarter finals this year?

So the way it works is you need an affiliate manager present, whoever that person is, it

doesn't have to be the LOR, the gym owner.

It just has to be the person that you give that responsibility to where they're just there

and they're observing the workout happening and kind of like saying, yeah, the judge was

actually judging them and not just on their phone the whole time.

And then the individual just needs a judge.

The judge can either hold a annual judge's certificate or an advanced judge's course

certificate, which lasts three years for the semi finals online stages, like for the

age groups.

And then for the individuals at the end of the semi final season, that judge has to be

an advanced judge holder that's actually judging them along with the affiliate owner

or the head judge.

They also have to have that advanced judge's certificate.

That's for what what I refer to as the last chance qualifier or the online qualifier.

Right.

Okay.

Wow.

What did you say?

You had a question that I think was answered, but I'll let it fly again.

Can people do the workout starting Thursday morning?

That's what we're guessing.

Well, I think it's, did they put it out?

Usually, it's usually 12 Pacific.

Yeah.

When that starts.

And because usually 3pm is when everyone has their knee sleeves on and they're belt

and whatever the heavy is going to be, they're just going to do that one first.

Usually it's kind of how it works.

So Seth, maybe I was reading you wrong, but you're, you're okay with this layout for

a quarter finals when you're in the cac, you're like, okay, this is like, if we're going

to get a cheater, who's going to have people conspiring to help and cheat, they'll eventually

get weeded out.

I'm okay with it, but I would prefer it to be if they're going to not have it password

protected or another layer of protection.

I would rather them just put out 95% of the details so that it actually cannot be done.

A version of it can be done, but you cannot actually do it and score it.

I would prefer that, but I'm okay with this too.

It's not going to earn anyone a game slot.

So the right people are still going to get through to semi finals, even if somebody wants

to be a weasel about it.

Fine.

I don't think that will be the majority.

So I'm okay with it.

Hey, why wouldn't they do that?

What's the pushback in the cac?

That seems like such an easy, hey, here are the movements for every workout.

You don't even give reps, Keynes.

I mean, that would be a shitload of information.

There's no pushback, we just we just suggested it.

So it's just just happened literally the other day.

So there's no pushback.

They said, Oh, great suggestion, but it's already too late.

This year is too late.

It's in stone already.

So how is it too late to roll and they just keep rolling?

Yeah, you would think that that would be an easy fix Monday.

They just released the the movements on the show and hey, and the truth is is it gives

everyone it's it's a good PR move to because then it gives all of us something to talk

about.

And then they get another big show where they release the actual numbers.

So it's a it's a it's a it's a win win for everyone.

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I don't think Adrian has that.

But recently there's been for I know how many if you guys don't know I'm not going to

say she's and how do you know.

I just know based on our meeting about the structure.

I don't know what any of the workouts are.

I don't know any of the movements by know how many events they'll be.

But I don't know if you're partners or I don't know any other details except the number

of workouts.

Okay, let me just ask another question even though you say you don't have any other

details.

So if it's on Thursday, what time does the last score have to be in Sunday, it's usually

Sunday at three.

Okay.

And then will there be so there'll be no order you have to do the workouts in either.

You just do the window opens and you got to get these done.

Correct.

Yeah.

Okay.

And I'm hearing that the boys interrupted are going to stream their workouts.

Yeah.

Good move.

Very good move.

Is there any issue for those guys not to do that are they so good that it doesn't matter?

For this stage, it doesn't matter.

I mean, we know there are requirements to compete at a semifinal online or in person

are do the open finish top 25% do quarter finals finish in the top 2000 in the world.

And that's it.

Last year, there were no quarter finals, but they did online semifinals for like what

nine spots.

And of course, everyone wanted to watch them do it, but that was the stakes were too high.

So like no one wanted to do that last year because you know, if you're in Australia or

you're whatever and you can see scores or watch people do it, it's way easier to beat

scores.

So understandably so no one did that last year, but this year, I think more and more

people doing it, especially if they're trying to, you know, get more eyes on their channel.

I mean, it's really smart because the risk is very small.

Yeah, it's going to be massive.

Hey, what are the expectations from you guys for the workouts and any thoughts, anything

that you like, you bet the the mortgage on?

I assume they'll do something with an heavy heavy opportunity of some kind, whether it's

a heavy lift or a gated heavy workout, I would assume because that's usually the biggest

critique of the open.

So that's the first thing that they try to swing the pendulum back for.

So that would be my obvious guess.

I feel like the clear and jerk ladder in 2024 was really well received by the community

and wasn't that just a repeat of a snatch ladder J or I think I've heard you talk about

that from like a semi-final online or something.

Yeah, it was really cool.

Well, that was when we did something like that that's like clean and jerk workout, yeah.

Drop the weights down a little bit to make it a quarter finals version.

So it's not, you know, semi-final weights, but something along those lines could be a pretty

good heavy test of capacity.

Yeah, I mean, that started it.

It was 10 reps at every weight, I think, and then a max rep at the end and it was 135.

So it was 135, 185, 225, and then 245 maybe at the end.

Yeah.

And that was then for, yeah, and you had like a, I think it was a 10 minute am rap and

you had a mandatory rest so you could bank as much time as possible for the end.

Boss did say something on that post that CrossFit posted.

I think he said something along the lines of, or maybe it was on like one of the podcasts

he did with Chase at one point, previewing the rulebook or the season, but he said something

along the lines of, you should all be able to start the workout, but, you know, not everyone

will be able to finish the workout.

So I think this style of bottleneck style of programming where everyone kind of makes

it to a point and you either get stuck or you're just fit enough to push through that

point, I think we'll still see that style of programming.

Only two years since there's been quarter funnels, has there been what we would traditionally

refer to as a classic strength test?

They did the four rat max front squat the first year and then they did the other total,

which is max bench breast clean and overhead squat in like a 30 minute window or something.

So otherwise there's been something heavy, whether it's like a lifting ladder, which seems

to be something everybody enjoys, or one year they did like a 275, 185 clean and jerk

with burpee boxing burbers.

And it was just like some people just couldn't do the weight at all, not don't really think

that they would pick that approach again.

But something I kind of thought about was, you know, and they did cross over double

unders, everyone was up in arms and then what it was put into quarters the next year,

cross over single unders and it kind of stole the show and it tripped a lot of people up.

Well, they just revisited cross over double unders at the games after several years.

So do we get that coming back now in the quarter final stage to see just if people have

even been training them at all?

And with that, I think you hit it on the head as well as you could with all that.

The other thing is we know from interviews that BOSS is really the one responsible for

doing a lot of this quarter finals programming where Dave is really leading into the games

already.

He's heavily responsible for quarters and semis programming, at least semis oversight

of the programming.

I know he's responsible for that.

So I really think Jared's on to something with if you lean into what BOSS is bias and his

style is, you're going to find probably some answers there would be my guess.

And then the other thing you mentioned was I also don't think they're going to have something

that is super heavy and unattainable by, you know, someone in the top 25%.

So you're not going to have power snatches at 185 and burpee box jumps because now you

don't let somebody even play in that workout at all.

So I know they're going to make these, well, I don't know, I assume they're going to

make these workouts a lot more user friendly, but with a way for the best to really separate

themselves deeper into the competition because it's not semis, you don't have to make

it so crazy and so over the top to prove who really needs to earn those games lots.

You can still make these workouts a bit more open-esque with opportunity to either get

through a gate later on or really just show your capacity or move to something that's

heavier later, like they were talking about with ladders, but I do think just based on

conversations that this is going to be probably the most athlete friendly quarterfinals we've

seen, whereas everyone can put some scores up on the board, but the best will clearly

win.

Yeah, I think that like as far as the movements go, the only movement that I do feel

really confident that it's time we see it in this stage in a classic MetCon CrossFit format

because of how many times Boz has programmed it for the age groups and later in the season

is bench press.

I do think that even if it's like a 185 type, I'm sorry, like a 135, 95 that is more accessible,

but over the course of whatever the AM rap is or whatever, maybe you're doing 100 reps

at it, where it's light enough, but it's also heavy enough trips and people up, typically

we see that 185 number, we saw it with rowing one year, we saw it in the age groups one

year with the 50 shuttle runs into bench press into row climbs and to bench press back in

the shuttle run, but I just think that it's something everyone wants to do, like it's

a crowd favorite, people just enjoy benching and I think that this is the year that we see

it in the quarter final stage, but not in a one rat max setting.

Also in the judges course, they made a really big deal about not only the tape, but the

fact that you could put plates underneath your feet and they just, they put some stuff

in the rule in the judges course about bench press that made me kind of wonder why they

are making sure that this is known.

It was not in the advanced judges course, it was just a normal judges course.

Why wouldn't it be in the advanced judges course, because that's not updated every year,

like the regular judges course, it would make sense if it was in the advanced, if they

were going to use it in semi finals on it, because we know you have to take that course

to judges semi finalist.

What about Linda?

Why not just bring Linda, is it Kalinda, the three bars, the three bars of death?

Why not just bring that Linda?

I would do.

I mean, I think that's, I think that's awesome, even like a, even like a weightlifting

couple, if it was like a deadlift bench press couple, it would be really cool.

I think it's awesome if they did it.

And if they did that, they would just pick weights, right?

They wouldn't do it based on body percentage rates.

They just pick some weights and go.

Definitely.

And it'd be a million reps probably, because it like, you know, to Seth's point, I mean,

they've done a hundred reps in the open with a deadlift at 225, so that's not out of

the realm of possibility.

But if it's like a 225 deadlift and a 135 bench press, it's going to be for a lot of

reps.

What about the two workouts that you mentioned?

What was it, the, the, the, the four, four rep max front squat was the other one you

mentioned, the other total, the other total, not so much of that, but the four rep front

squat.

Any concern?

Does the quarter finals usually not have workouts that would reward outliers, like they

would never do a seven minutes of burpees there or anything like that?

Probably the way boss programs, quarter finals, it's, it's very clear what we're testing.

And a lot of times he will test a single modality or one or two single modalities, like, for

instance, the year that they did the clean and jerk ladder, which is single modality weightlifting.

They also did a gymnastics triplet that was all gymnastics.

So still single modality, but not single modality, single movement.

So he tends to like that of like, hey, let's make sure this stone is unturned.

Okay.

Cool.

Okay.

Let's make sure that they're good with their body weight.

Okay.

This one's good.

Okay.

Let's make sure they can go long and they have grip.

Last year, there was a 30 minute AMRAP.

Everyone was blown away by that because usually the longest type workout we see is a 20 minute

AMRAP.

It was a 30 minute AMRAP of rowing toes to bar and row climb, which you can't get much

more redundant than that than those three movements.

So that, that tends to be his style, at least as of late, that you want to make sure we

are testing specific things before you get in person, because no one really wants to

be exposed in person because there was something that wasn't tested at all in the quarter

final stage.

When, uh, uh, JR has really gone out on a limb here with the crossover.

I think I think it's going out on a limb crossover, double unders or single unders and bench

press.

Uh, I just don't, I just don't see those a lot.

I mean, except for more recently, uh, you got any, any you want to throw out there?

Uh, Sean Mac, you think Parallettes, is there anything you want to throw out there?

Uh, I think they'll keep it to the equipment list that they've, they haven't released

one this year, but I don't think they would go as crazy as something like Parallettes.

But I think the precedent has been set set for bench press because it was in the other

total and we did get that masters, uh, 185 bench press workout with, with row of climbs,

uh, and she all runs like JR was saying.

So that's definitely on the table for sure.

I think, uh, like JR was saying too, like you, you can look at Bos's history of programming

now that we have more chatter coming out of HQ and letting us know that Bos is basically

the one who programs quarterfinals, maybe with a little feedback and sometimes he talks

to Dave and we know he programs 2023's open and he does like to kind of put things into

that box and check off specific types of tests or, or parameters there.

I think the 2024 kind of spread of tests would be really great to emulate this year because

they had that 10 minute key and jerk strength ladder.

We had that progressive gymnastics, uh, triplet where each, or it was against a couple

of it, push pull, but it progressed each, uh, chunk of the three chunks.

You had a, a short interval test, um, that was power snatch row and box step up, um, double

dumbbell and then you also had the, like, three rounds of, uh, wall balls in every box jump

over to kind of go long.

I think it was like a 20 or 25 minute cap on that one.

So it was, you know, you kind of hit, they hit a lot of really good things.

I remember when they said it was four workouts instead of five.

There was a lot of chatter about, can you get a while around the test?

And then once the test came out, everybody kind of got quiet and was, I think, pretty happy

with that spread as far as how they tested the field to get semi-files.

Do you guys know when, when the latest you can sign up for quarterfinals is,

can you sign up to, like, the last minute for the deadline?

I think you have to sign up by the start of competition, which maybe is another reason

that they are, um, giving the workouts Monday and giving you till Thursday to decide if you're

going to register. They didn't do open where they leave it open all weekend, you know, or all

three weeks. That answers my question because my, my point was going to be, and it still is,

I guess, I, I think they're going to try to make these workouts as appealing as possible

to the masses. I think JR is dead on with the deadlift. I don't, I don't, or the bench press.

Excuse me. I don't know too many crossfitters that wouldn't see a bench press workout and be like,

okay, I want to do this. Like, this is going to be cool. So I think they want these workouts to come

out and just sparkle, which is a great point by Sean, why they'd be releasing them early,

because it's going to drive signups. If it looks fun, if these things look like they're just

absolute beasts that are going to drive you into a wall, you're not going to get the mass participation

that they want. So I really expect this to be, I really expect this to feel almost like the

open of the past, whether it's four, five or six events, however many they, they release on Monday,

I think it's going to feel like it used to feel in 2016, 2017, 2018. We had five tests in the open

and kind of, I know it was one week or one per week and they progressed and skill as you went,

but I think you could have quite a variance of that feel in quarter finals and still have it be

extremely tough, heavy enough and certainly get the right people through, but I think it does have

to appeal to the masses because part of the plan. You think JR's, you think crossover double

unders fit in that appeal to the masses? I don't think that. I think bench press does.

Okay. Yeah, because something, uh, to Seth's point about making it really alluring,

if you look at what we did in the open, um, the movement variation wasn't insane, but something

we brought back that everyone wanted was the ring muscle up, and you know, it had only been

programmed in 23, which was Bos's year since 2020. Everyone got a chance to do that. What is,

what have we been doing in the open a lot? We've been doing bar muscle ups. So what have we

been doing in quarters? We'll be doing ring muscle ups. Now, maybe that's flipped. A lot of people

have bar muscle ups. He dangles another carrot. Oh, yeah. Look at these bar muscle ups you can do

and show everyone you can and show everyone you can do those. Again, like it's very smart.

If we get some toes to bar, if we get some of those movements that typically we see a lot in the

open, and we move them into the quarter final stage, and again, that progression style workout.

I mean, it's been there every single year that they've done quarters. There was a farmer lunch,

front rat lunch, overhead walking lunch with 50s and 35s, with kipping handstand pushups,

deathstand pushups, strict handstand pushups. There was, there was pulling progressions. There

was a workout with dead lifts that went down and weight, and it went chest of our bar muscle up,

rope climb at the end. That same year, there was a workout that went front squat with different

pressing variations, handstand walkering, muscle up wall facing handstand pushups. So this idea of

letting everyone play in the beginning, I think that's the way to do it because what does everyone

say their favorite may be workout of all time is 16.2. It's everyone can play in the beginning.

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What was 16.2? Squat clean, double unders and toast for.

Okay. Bench crossover, double unders, bar muscle ups, toes to bar, some movements that JR's

throwing out there. What about going upside down? So you're saying it's going to be wall walks and

handstand pushups, but not walking on your hands, because that would scare some people away.

I think that's another, I think that's another carrot movement. I think a handstand walk,

especially where it's placed, would make people want to sign up for it.

Okay. Handstand walking has a lower strength requirement than a handstand pushup.

So even though there's more skill, it's actually easier if you lack strength,

but you can learn it faster if you're able to put in the time and just get the balance down.

In realistically, you're probably using 20 foot increments again, and so they're probably going

to count them in five foot increments. So even if you put them at the back end of a round of a

workout, someone's going to get there, they might not be the best at them, but they're going to chip

away if I feed at a time and they're going to get through. And that's that's enticing enough

similarly to a muscle up, just getting through stuff like that. So I agree we could see that.

God, I am so not on the same page as you guys. I'm so glad you guys are here. I would have just

thought handstand walk would be the least appealing, the least sparkly.

And in last year too, when we did the age group semifinals, there was only 30 feet of handstand

walking per round. Now last year in the open, they did the lunge bodyweight that was 15 out 15

back. And everyone's like, we've been doing 25 foot segments for years. Why are we only doing 15

and 15? That year, last year, they did a handstand walk that was only 30 feet per round for like

three rounds. And it was 15, 15. So like to set the point, you know, we used to have those five foot

increments. People would just try not to fall for five feet at a time. When you make it smaller

chunks that are mandatory, unbroken and make it more accessible, people want to at least attempt

that. And really like you listened to Dave and that behind the scenes for 26.2, I think he asked

Rafa, Hey, do you remember when we did that workout, whatever workout he was talking about?

weren't gyms really mad because of the space you needed? And they ended up making it 20 feet

this year, which is a distance that's in between what we used to always do 25. And we used to,

and we did 15 one year, then we did 20. So really, to me, like any distance would not surprise me,

even if it's 10 foot back and forth handstand, while it would not shock me if they did that.

And any place for the super strong people to shine anything you see that would be something that

would allow the athlete to set their own, set their own weight to climb or set some

like the total or the front squat for I think you'll see more of the strength endurance type

athlete shine, someone who can do a higher percentage of their heavy lives for high rep without

burning out. I don't expect a one at max or a complex or something doesn't mean it won't happen.

But I would expect maybe a barbell gets heavier like we had talked about earlier over the course

of a workout, maybe. But I wouldn't guess that we'd see a heavy lift yet. I know they like to wait

on those until semis are the games if we're going to test single modality lifts like that.

Okay, that's that's pretty thorough. I did was I was watching Gabby McGaw was 26.3 in something

that she posted. And the thrusters did not look good. They did not look pushed out at the top.

And I was surprised to see that from her. And that does make me think that not filming these

is a ball dropper. Why don't they just say, hey, you have to film it and you have to upload it?

Why don't they just tell everyone that they have to do that? You think that some sort of that's like

some sort of barrier. You don't even have to make it public.

Think about Sean Jim. He just says he's got 30 to 40 people going through like finding camera

angles to fit in all the logistical space of the equipment workout judge this and that.

They're just trying to make it easier in my opinion. They just want to make people

be able to participate. Okay, so you know how many people have registered for quarters in the past?

Because I know, you know, it's like 8,000 guys just just qualified. But is it like, I feel like

in the past I've seen the 8,000 number or maybe that's made age group or something. And then

there's only like 3,000 guys or 3,500 on the leaderboard. So is it like half that actually sign up

in the past because of the programming? I don't know. I think having people wait to see the workouts

and then they have to know, okay, well, maybe I can leave work an hour early. That's too late because

the windows are already open. And now I know what the workouts are. I think just putting them out on

Monday, regardless of the programming accessibility, I think it's probably going to make more people

want to sign up. Now, the question is too, you see the workouts, oh yeah, it looks great. I'm going to

sign up by sign up Monday. And then when the weekend rolls around, oh yeah, I forgot I had to do this.

And then, oh well, whatever, you know, I'm just I'm just giving some more money to the pot, which like

I'll sign up for it, even though I don't plan on doing the workouts, but like I want to support the

pot. Like I think there's probably a lot of people that are like that. I've heard that it's half,

that's the conventional wisdom of the percentage that qualify its half register. How do you all put on

or allow quarter finals at your gym, Seth? You want to go first?

Well, it's different, depending on which gym we're talking about, but I'll take on the smallest,

most challenging one. We have a gym in about 1,250 square feet of usable space and then we have

a rig and all the equipment that fills that space. And so what we've done basically in the past is

I say, hey, I'm going to be at the gym Friday from this time to this time, Saturday, this time to this time,

Sunday, this time to this time. I'll hang out. You guys come in. If you're coming in, please have your

judges certificate too, so you can help judge each other. And we just roll through heat. Sometimes

it's a very long, 12, 13, 14 hour day. Other times it's been fast. We've had less people

participating or it's been 10% to 25. So it's been far fewer that have qualified.

But I remember the first year was 25%. And I think the first year is the year they had, if I'm not

mistaken, the GHD pistol rope climb workout that was 20 minutes long. And I had one GHD in about

30 people between two different gyms and a Wahoo that I had to put through that. And boy,

long weekend, but we got it done. So I don't have a good system for it. You just make it work.

I'm sure JR and Sean have much better opportunities in their spots to do it.

Want to go Sean Mac? Yeah, I mean, we just, again, out of like maybe 35 to 40 that qualify,

we usually get probably half that sign up. And some people are just doing their own thing. So they

don't have to worry about it. If they're just going to do the workouts. But we try to put the word

out to them to coordinate with other folks doing it. And again, have registered judges available.

And myself, the affiliate owner or other full-time coach are generally there at all times when

the gyms open. So affiliate manager or judges around. And we just kind of try to get that our gym

is about 6,000 square feet in the main space. And then we have another unit through like a

couple of doorways through a wall, another 3,000 for our physical therapy side. So they have open

gym space there. So it kind of depends on what the workout is. They're able to float. And we try

to work with them working around class, but class still always takes priority if they just have to

kind of wait and go in between if it's something that doesn't fit. So you don't really organize

anything. You're like, Hey, you guys know how this gym runs? Get in. What do you fit in?

Most of them know because it's a lot of the same people since now quarter finals is on its

fourth or fifth year of running. And there'll be probably a couple new people that just kind of have

to get brought up to speed. But people make it work and they get there to judge each other. We have

a handful of people that love to take the judges courses. And they're always volunteering to judge.

So it's just cool to see the community step up too and just have those people that love to help out.

JR?

Yeah. In the years past, we, I've tried to pick like a morning window and an afternoon window

each day, like on Thursday, just one in the afternoon. We do have like a side open gym room

that we can use so that everyone's not in the way of the class. But we also have a lot of

open gym hours during the day. So you usually try to pick two times on like Friday, Saturday,

and Sunday where we do like one or two hour windows. And then I'll try to recruit some of my coaches

to judge for me. And I'll just pay them to do that. But what I actually had everyone do this year

since I saw that you didn't have to take the advanced judges course. I was like, Hey, if you guys

want to do this, you got to do the judges course. That way, what we can do is we can have like three

heats. You guys can judge each other. And I can be there to observe. And I'll just pay you back

for that judges course, just like request of info from me. And I'll just take care of the judges course.

But that way, you know, you know what you're supposed to do. You know what someone else is supposed

to do. You can, you can judge each other. I mean, the people that are doing them, like no one's going

no one's no one's going to win money. No one's like they just want to do it because they qualified.

And it's another good competition opportunity. So the judges course is almost like, you know,

you take your dog to dog school. And the day one, they tell you, Hey, this isn't for your dog.

It's for you to learn how to behave to get your dog to do what you want. And so that I hadn't

thought of that. So the judges course is actually the best thing that athletes can do.

Because because they're the ones you have to follow the rules. Well, and I mean, I can't,

I can't be up at the gym for like four hours in the morning or four hours in the afternoon. So

I think if we can narrow that window and we know, Hey, I know everyone wants to probably do the workouts

in different order. But on Friday, I'm going to be up there nine to 11. And then I'm going to be up

there in the afternoon from two to three. Like, let's see if maybe we can get whatever the lift is

in the morning and maybe rest like half an hour and then do one of the meckons. And then maybe

we can get another one in that day. Yes, some of them will want to repeat. Some of them will not

want to repeat. If it's anything like some of these open workouts, especially the first and third

week, maybe there's not a lot of desire to repeat unless you're someone that's right there on the

border. And you're just trying to make it into the semi final eligible group of athletes.

Tough question, but do you guys know roughly what the worst you can place

and make it to semi finals just anecdotally speaking? 2000.

For individuals. And then age group is right, right, right. But I mean,

say, oh, for age group, it's 400. He said something like that. Yeah. But I mean,

worst you could put so, so if there's 32,000 men in one of the workouts, what's the worst you could

get and still make it, you think in the past? Have you ever seen anyone get 25,000 and still?

The four at max front squat year and the other total year, it was wild. How low some people

could take a hit since it has not rewarded the outliers as much with the way that you need fitness

to still show that you're strong. You don't get as many of those outliers.

Okay. Rough number by chance that, you know, I doubt you could score a 10,000th place and qualify.

Like you're going to have to be close to that 2000, maybe a little more or better on average. So

so unless you're going to essentially win out a bunch of workouts, you can't take six to 8,000

points. I always work out. Let me tell you how the question came up. I was thinking about someone

like Fisigafi. She has an injury. She's working around, right? But she's world class. We know

she's a games athlete. Can she shit the bed on something where she's mitigating the stress and

doing more damage to her shoulder and make up for it on the other three workouts?

Maybe depends. Yeah, it's a good point too because like some semi-finals invited like

syndicate invited based on 2025 games performance. So if you were a top 20 games athlete last year and

you're currently a little beat up, but you accepted your syndicate and by all you have to do is

finish 2000. So you could take, you know, a top 100 on three of the workouts and then probably have

a really bad score and still get into that 2000 threshold and then rehab and show up and compete

because you don't have to perform high on the leaderboard to get that invite because you already

have accepted that invite. Chair, doesn't that feel dirty to you? That's dirty. You know, you know,

it doesn't, you know, it doesn't feel dirty trying to get butts in the seats and trying to at least

be able to say, hey, we're going to have a couple big names here regardless of the people that get

in through quarters. Great point. What makes you, why is it dirty if you know that 2000 people

are going to semi-finals anyway? No, I think, I think the idea that the test

is not as legitimate if everyone doesn't take the same one until the fitness on earth as

crowned as very legitimate. And I completely understand that argument. So if someone gets in

by any means other than what have you done for me in 2026 and the open quarter finals at your

semi-final at the games, then you can make the argument that the whole entire test is void.

Think of this, think of this. So like, I look at the the whole season as a funnel, right?

Yeah. Everyone in the open, they come out the end of the games. But if you're inviting somebody

who might squeak in in 1950th place, guess what? The person before them and the person after

them in leaderboard have no chance of going to a semi-final. They're not going to get invited,

they're not going to, they're not going to feel one of those slots. But somebody else will because

of past performance that has nothing to do with how they're doing this year. So I don't actually

have a problem with it because it's the way it's currently set up. But I just, it's funny because I know

JR is a purist. So I know that deep down inside, he's like, it allows some game of fine too. Yeah.

Okay. Well, since since it's not landlocked and you don't know for sure that you're going to get

specific people at your competition, it's who's first? They're at big advantage because if you

qualify early, you're not going to need to qualify late. And so you're not going to show up to compete.

So if you're one of the first few semi-finals, everyone wants to go ahead and punch your tickets

and then get back to training and train for a couple months leading up to the games. I don't want

to wait. So if you're someone that's like you're you're grasping for the same athletes that want

to go ahead and compete early and you're just not going to be able to get them if there's another

option. Then you have semi-finals giving online, getting seven spots of the 30. That is still a lot

of spots. If it was one or two spots, then you would get a lot of those athletes would just say,

I'll just go compete in person again because holding out for one or two spots is kind of risky.

I don't think I'm that good. So I'll just go and compete at syndicate if I don't make it at Mayhem.

And I can still punch my ticket. And so you still get those high quality names in person. But

if you can just compete once in person, maybe you're doing WFP2 and you know you're one of the top 10

athletes in the world. But Mayhem is like a rogue invitational. You you know that there aren't seven

people who can beat you online after all the good people have taken spots. So why would you then

go compete in person again? Right. So do you feel like you feel like next year, JR, you'd like to see

like one more semi-final. And then there's only like three or four spots online just to kind of

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qualifier feel where it's maybe three spots at the most whether they want to keep the field at 30

or increase it to 40 and then giving those spots to the semifinals that have shown that time after

time they have good fields. That's more of a more of a set question than me though. He's the one

complying all that information. Yeah, so push out. Let me just say this. Let me just say this

free jump and set. There's been an evolution obviously last year. They put the online qualify

or last chance qualifier, which I think it's more akin to in the wrong fucking spot. They put it

in the middle of the season and it screwed everything up and it ruined the motivation for supporting

these people who are doing online events. This year they've evolved and they put it at the end.

Now what Jay are saying is is like, hey, those should be fewer spots in the solution that Sean's

coming up with is add a maybe add a semi final. Another solution would be, hey, give everyone three

spots, men and women instead of just two. That would be another way to narrow the field.

Yeah, I think basically why wouldn't you give more live qualifications spots to the events that

are willing to host these huge productions? We all want to see people qualify live. We want to see

them laid out on the line and show up and do it. That's how competition works.

The online thing should be like a couple spots. That's it. Because now you're de-incentivizing.

Yeah. We're saying athletes from traveling and showing up and taking their shot. And if you're

de-incentivizing them from showing up, you're de-incentivizing all the people to show up and watch.

Yeah, bring it to the cat. That's great. It's already been brought.

Oh, it's three or four. You're right. And you want to know, I don't have a lot of sympathy for

the athletes, but asking them to go to more than one semi final is really fucking crazy.

Asking them to go to three semi finals is fucking bad shit. These people have to fucking like

have an existence there to do the open and then they did the quarter finals. Make it so that they can

I mean, it's got to be so stressful to go somewhere and know there's only two spots.

So why not make it three spots and then reduce the or we have a consensus here, right? I mean,

we can make that happen. The four of us. Maybe. Yeah, I think I think two is more than enough

and to tell you the truth, that will make the online qualifier more exciting also for all of us

as the final event of the year because we'll be like, holy shit. The year that they did the last

chance qualifier and I mean, the programming was really good. It was really hard. It was like,

you know, 20 thrusters at 185 into max bar muscle up and then you rested and then you did 20

bar muscle up into max thruster at 185. You did like an eight minute window and you had to

row a 2k and handstand at what for max distance like the workouts were really hard like the wall too.

That was same year. That was Taylor's last chance qualifier year. They did 100 for time. Yeah,

to a 12 inch touch. That was brutal. Yeah, like a lot of those last chance because you can program

those harder than what you would program a semifinal because it's nothing but people that are

either games athletes or people that are barely missing out on the games. And then yeah, you

you you have a way smaller field doing them and they're competing for one or two. I think that

that year I'm talking about maybe like Yana and like one of the person. I think that was when Phil

Tune that your Seth's talking about three max deadlifted with a dead stop like 505 or something.

And that's when everyone learned who Phil Tune was like, I remember you had him on the show at

right after that. Yeah, yeah. Hey, let me ask you this. And I remember that year and I would do a

small tweak to this. I think it's that year. The people that they invited were the people who

were just one or two places outside of qualifying at the semifinals. I would do it the same,

but I would let anyone who went to a semifinal, no matter what place you took, enter the last chance

qualifier just in case someone just why not or yeah, allow more parity on the leaderboard too.

You should do that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, man, we just fixed the game season.

That's awesome. Emmett Hall was in that year too, right?

That last chance qualifier. There were some things. There was a year where Seth probably

remembers or Sean might remember that maybe someone assisted her by keeping her bar from rolling

and then she incurred a penalty from that. Do you remember that? Yeah. Yeah. That was some drama.

I think it was doing Gretel or doing Ingrid one of the two. Yeah, but it was it was that really,

really fast 10 Realms. They take their judges course. Yeah, I mean, I think it is cool, though,

that anyone can do online semi-finals that breaks that 2000 in the world threshold.

So to your point, you could just invite like the people who were three spots out and then

have like a very small field, but I mean, there are people that probably just go to a semi-final.

Maybe they had don't have a great weekend. Maybe they're not very self-aware.

And they finished 21st, but they still think there's a chance when they qualified in the top 2000,

so they can do online at the end if they want to. And you can charge 500 for that.

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Last time I saw him compete live, maybe he competed after that was at the, I was there with JR,

we were at the West Coast Classic that Dylan put on in Carson, and he was a fucking mess, man.

He could barely stand up his back one out. And I think he qualified, right? Still qualified.

He did. Yeah. I thought we'd never see him again. Now he is threatening to come back and make

one more run after saying he's not going to make run. I think the guy is a full-time life,

too. I think he's got this business. I think he might even be an engineer. I think he's a smarty

pants. He's a medical physicist, so he fixes like fancy hospital equipment.

Okay. So he's moved the machines that are killing people. He works on those.

What do you guys think? What do you vote? I vote yes. Go brand it. Let's go brand it.

Thoughts? Yeah. Yeah. Why not? Yeah. I've known Brandon for many years. I've

got the privilege of coaching him for several years. Oh, no shit. Yeah. He was a,

he was like one of my main athletes for years, and I was with misfit. I coached him like four or

five years, like three, three times of the games. So I know him pretty well. And he used to work out

with Travis Williams, Alexis Johnson, Jordan Cook, that whole gang down there. He came up in that

South Texas crew and kind of broke out and probably became the best set of all of them at the end of it.

But I would like to see him do it again. He's definitely

matured in so many ways as both an athlete and a person. So it'd be interesting to see this next

chapter of Brandon take it on because he's a very intelligent guy. He knows he's going to have to

balance this training with a lot of other stuff in his life. So it'll be interesting to see

somebody who's aged but who has the experience, the knowledge, how he balances it out and how well

he can do against this field of super young athletes who just basically train 24-7 just crush

themselves. So it'll be interesting to see if he can get back in how he would fare. But yeah,

it's cool. I'm happy to see Brandon like it. Yeah, I'd love to see it just like Seth was saying,

someone who's a little older who came out of kind of the old, the last era, the last generation of

athletes, but has the potential if he does make it through the games to like play spoiler on some

events if he gets something in his wheelhouse because the guy's super fit. One year I was filming

the behind the scenes and I got him and Sean Sweeney mixed up and I did a whole interview. I can

remember if it was with Sean or with Brandon, I did the whole interview walking with him and it

wasn't until like an hour later, I realized, oh shit, I was calling them the wrong name.

JR, you'd like to see an old guy go? He older and you, JR? No.

No, I don't think he's 41. No, he's not even, he's like early 30s at most.

Oh, so he's not 35. He's just been around, no, no, no, he's just been around a while.

And he's not sure. No, I think it'd be cool. It's a really interesting how long

people like him can stick around. I think it just speaks to longevity. It shows you too just like

how to set the point experience really, really does matter because I try to tell the members like,

you know, there are a lot of people fitter, but some people just know how to work out and some people

don't. And it's completely different thing of just like physiologically, you can, your cardiac

output and index are better than this person's. But nah, man, they just know that each should

break from the beginning on toaster bar. Like that's it. Like so the experience level for someone

like Brandon versus maybe someone that's younger and less experienced and maybe more fit is really

something to see. It just kind of shows you how like the pros really are that.

Just because they know what they're doing. And the most recent example of that was the

that was really highlighted was James Bragg in the 2024 CrossFit Games in the final event, right?

Breaking up, what was it? The the bar muscle-ups was the two events back to back.

And he just came out of nowhere because he was resting. Yeah, just like I'm just gonna do small

sets and not rest a lot, which is easy for people to say. And they don't trust themselves in the

moment, but James does and executes it a lot. Yeah. He's clearly wise beyond his years though. There's

not a lot of people that execute like James can execute. They're actually almost nobody.

And then who we saw really take advantage of it when you see the two mix together with capacity and

those smarts was obviously cold mountains and 26.3. Very, very disciplined, very calm,

crazy, crazy pace. Trust in singles on cleans. That was crazy. Crazy. Because that must have felt

like nothing to him. Must have felt like he was moving up popsicle sticks.

Heartfelt moment from the well sisters. This caused me to take a few minutes out of my day. This

is pretty wild. Been a staple for a long time. Brooke, obviously everyone knows who Brooke Wells is,

then her sister Sydney, who I never thought would have a fucking chance entering the CrossFit

Space late to make it to the games. She makes it to the games. Brooke retires and Sydney continues

to carry the mantle. You'd see your parents at all the all the big events, very supportive,

close knit family. The mom is going through some, I think she had a pretty severe surgery on her

brain. There was a pretty cool picture in here of one of the girls spending the night with her mom

in the hospital room. That's pretty awesome. I don't know if that's Sydney or Brooke. But definitely

close family. They got to go fund me page for anyone who wants to contribute.

Tough. Did you guys know either of their parents? JR, did you meet her parents?

Yeah, I think I shook their hand with the games this past year.

But you never saw them when she was when she would dabble at crash?

No, I want to say maybe I met their mom for the first time at Syndicate, which she competed there.

But yeah, I think it's like Shediglio Bastoma, which is the same thing that one of our close family

friends has to choose a young girl doing with it. So yeah, scary stuff. Brain cancer is super serious.

And she had an operation and so there's hope, right? Yeah, hopefully they got it all for sure.

And then on the other side of the spectrum, you guys might be all too young to remember this athlete.

Do you guys remember her?

Yeah, Chris. Yeah, Chris Irama. I remember her. Yeah, yeah. Pat, who? What's his name?

Oh, Connell. He was like Reginald's athlete for like six, seven years.

Oh, I don't remember him at all. He looks like she looks like she hooked up with some investment banker.

He's a cross-fitter. She's pregnant. Crazy how that happens.

She was great, right? She was like a Kristen Holtta, great, but just never,

never. She was like a Anatana Cliff in the way that maybe she could push Tia on the long

endurance stuff sometimes. Yeah, like she was just that. She was that athlete.

And was it was her thing? She was just too small.

Well, her her strength trajectory was actually insane because she came in as one of the weaker

athletes, but over time she actually became a really strong female athlete. And

but just I don't know if she'd never put everything together. I guess to have I don't remember

her best finish. She actually did well. She finished on the top 10 a few times if I'm not mistaken.

I remember she was great. And like Jar said, she was a threat. If Tia wasn't there,

she was a threat to win a venture too at the games every year. Awesome runner. Yeah.

Yeah, amazing runner. Funny story about this real quick. I just saw them in person last week.

So I was at I was in Kauai. I did a little staycation with my

I'm trying to think you're making shit up. You coach Brandon Bucket and you saw Chris Yocon.

My life is going on here. My life is fucking bizarre.

I don't know what else to say. I was I we just only on the show because it's raining in Hawaii.

I know that everything's flooded. And I was over Kauai and I'm walking to check out this

this amazing gym at this hotel. It's kind of what the hotel's one of things it's known for.

And who do I run into? Those two. They're staying there the same time as me last week or the

week before. And that's where all those pregnancy photos were taken at the same hotel I ran into

a mat. So freaking small world. I wonder if they made the baby there.

I don't think so. Did you ask him? No, I did not.

All right. Um, I am going to show you a world record.

And you tell me if this is a strength record, you tell me what you guys think of this.

I am absolutely fascinated by this type of shit.

Jared, do you ever have an iron cross? No way. My shoulders would break. Oh, please.

It's a lot. It's it's not. It's a lats. It's lats, man. It's a shoulder girdle integrity thing.

And I don't have a lot of that. Yeah, but you get the strength to body weight ratio.

Sean, you ever had an iron cross? Only on a ring harness that takes away half your body weight.

Seth, you ever had one? No. You try to do one, any of you? No. We used to

fuck around with them at HQ. And I think there was one guy. I think I probably had the

second closest to getting one. And the other guy was Wilson. Wilson.

Tank? Yeah, Wilson. Tank. He was fucking strong. He's little too. We were both the smallest dudes

there. Could boss not come close? I never saw boss try. That's a good question. Never saw boss try.

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So, dude. Strength test?

That's strength test? Yeah.

So you're tripping because you think something should snap on?

I'm trying to literally imagine the sensation of me doing that. What does that feel like to even do?

Because I can't find anything that would put me in that position to flex in that way.

I can't even imagine how that would feel. His chest is so blown up. His chest is crazy.

I was going to say it's probably what, I don't know, that's probably what's getting hit most,

right? Maybe lats, but I don't know, chest. It's crazy.

That is wild on real strength.

Any of the games, any of the games athletes have an iron cross, you think?

I think they all work their lower body a little bit too much.

Colin Bosshart was a, I think he was a pretty good gymnast, but I have no idea if he can do it or not.

Like, even Alex Smith had a huge gymnastics background. I don't think I ever saw

any, anything of him actually doing an iron cross, just other, you know, kind of crazy dynamic gymnastics.

And look where he's doing it. It's like in some sort of, like, jeweler station or something.

It's like a metal worker or something. It's probably some shed in Russia.

Yeah. Are you sure that's not AI? No, I'm not sure.

I'm not either. Butterfly L, 10 year, so he's just, I mean, it looks like he does.

Yeah, it looks legit. Hey, Simon, did you see the project?

No, but I'm going to guess what it is.

Okay. Someone sick? No. Okay.

The maltese coming up soon and gross it. Okay. We'll get through these quick.

How many minutes ago did you put that in?

I'm good. We can start the clock now. Okay.

16 year old runs 34888 world record. Fastest mile ever by a 16 year old.

Last time a 16 year old time before the record to beat was 349. So he beat it by a second.

And it was in 1982, which makes me think it's not even a real record.

Fastest crossfitter that could run a mile just fresh. If we just, if we like, took Ricky out there

and we just had him, like, made everything perfect for him.

I don't know. I think I think it would still be close between him and Jeff.

If Jeff got out there. Okay. Yeah. You think they could run a 450? Yeah. I think, yeah.

Did Ricky break five at the games when they did the mile at the track?

He did. Right. He was under five. You're going to break it and he broke it. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. He's just ran, which is a frame of front ran it by himself.

Yeah. And anyone to sprint, right? He won both those events.

Yeah. That was impressive. He came out from behind in the sprint too, right?

Like that was like just some weird, magical shit we saw.

Yeah, they had to carry that Texas star saying back. So it was a little different than a

traditional. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, once in a lifetime, probably not going to get broken again

in our lifetime. I watched that kid race. He raced another level. Oh, he came to your gym.

He came. No, no, no, I watched it online. I think he took like third and another race.

He got beat by two guys actually, which I was. Oh, no shit. But not 16 years old. They were like

college athletes. So they have more years to build. But he raced a bunch of college athletes

and did well too. What is the fastest mile? It can't be much faster. 343. Wow. Five seconds faster.

Wow. That's a lot. Yeah. And that was done in 1999. See, that's not legit either,

right? The technology back then couldn't measure that that much speed. Yeah, that's yeah,

I don't believe it. It didn't happen last few years. The fastest woman ever is a 407. So this guy,

wow. And that was in 2023. Holy smokes. Okay. Back to our own CrossFit superstars.

Sorry, I have to interrupt you because this is sorry. So the question is,

are we as elite level Crossfitters actually further away from endurance sports than we are

from gymnastics? Because if we do like skills that are the high level skills that like four and

five year olds can do, like getting on top of the rings to start a routine as a male or doing

a legless row climb that like girls can do when they're five years old. Are we actually further

away from gymnastics? Or because our mile time is 25% slower than the fastest runner,

are we actually further away on the monostructural side? I would say gymnastics. When you watch

those routines on the rings, clearly the weightlifting we are very, very, very close to what you would

say are the best in the world. But some would say maybe too close. Yeah.

The thing is, let me propose this, with gymnastics, I think a lot of these Crossfitters could

learn these gymnastics skills very quickly. As opposed to they cannot get closer to, I don't know

how much closer they can get to these speed times running. Are they the strength limiting gymnastics

movements or are they the skill adaptation? Like you said one day at HQ, you spent the whole day

Greg teaching people to do a front roll to support and a lot of people got it because they could

support themselves. They were strong enough to learn how to do it. But like being able to do one

rep of what that guy did in an L position, how long would that take? Yeah, that's a good point.

Like the strength ones versus the skill ones. That's a wild thing about.

I just think a lot of Crossfitters you could teach them a backflip.

Yeah. Pretty damn quickly, standing backflip. Okay, Domeit, this is a little depressing.

Lifetime best was 42 strict pull ups when I was nine years old. I haven't tested this since I was

10. She does 35 here. I guess I didn't know. So she had someone in her family who is a gem rat

of some sort or some gymnastics rat. 42 pull ups at nine years old is crazy.

That is. But this is also crazy. This is crazy. 35 for a female is that's up there. That's great

for a game's athlete. Yeah, and she's not, but this isn't a petite young lady. Right.

Good honor and very cool that she shared this with the public. So I love that.

Mayhem Classic. For sure, this is an important one to look at while JR is here. This makes me think

that there's going to be swimming at the Mayhem Classic this year. This is

Richie's dad's house.

Started a lot of blood, sweat and tears. Blood on this floor because if you were handsail

walking on this floor, it's smooth, polished concrete. So we got slick and sweaty in the summer.

I actually don't know how we got team training done here in the back with how many different

people we had rotating through different things and the efficiency that that happened. So

dad made us a little pull up bar different than the pull up bar that probably most people saw

on this side. It was just a single pull up bar on this side. We had a kettlebell. That was a set

a tutu there and loved to emphasize the tutu. An old barbell Allen key screws on ends. I would

keep the collar from sliding off. So every time we did grace or anything like that, you'd have to

have somebody on barbell duty. I'm pretty sure that was it when we started. This is just place

to seem a lot for sure. So why do you think that, Sevy? Mayhem is full of classic stories but

there's no better place to begin than where it all started. The original barn makes me think that

there will be an event. And this is so like JR because he is a fucking CrossFit historian.

Games movement historian. So JR said, Hey, can we do something at your dad's house?

Can we do a swim there? And Rich said, sure, no problem. And Fridge senior said, yeah, no problem.

And they brought out the fucking John Deere and they moved along and they're getting ready to swim.

Swimming at the Mayhem Classic this year, JR? Yeah, radically. That's the most exactly how it happened.

It's very cryptic. The way it says, there's no better place to begin than where it all started.

The original barn. Is that the announcement? Are they saying there's going to be a workout at the barn?

That how you got your reading it, Sean? Seth.

I don't know what to think. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't see the swimming

connection. I know what you're saying. I've seen all the videos where they're jumping. Because

they have the pond there. They have the pond there. Yeah, I've seen the pond, but they're not going

to go there and not swim. There's nothing else. There's a good run course there. Here's what I'll

say. It's probably that because I know this year HQ is cracking down on how some of the programming

is going to be for the semi-finals and there's going to be limitations to what they can do.

And so I would imagine a pond is not going to cut it in terms of what they're going to accept

for their guidelines in terms of programming. I don't know that to be true. That's just my feeling.

So I will say no swimming. Yeah, I read it as like there's no better place to begin,

but like begin a story because they said the Mayhem Classic is full of stories. So I think this

is like a series of videos and this is the first one that they're sharing. That's what I first

watched the video a couple days ago. That's what I thought. Okay, I'll tell you something else.

I'm going to tell you something else. I have some insider knowledge that not only will they be

going in the pond, but it'll be it'll be it'll be it you have to swim across carrying something.

Seriously. Seriously. Wow. The lifeguard can you got to bring a lifeguard can across.

You have to carry one of the I don't know if it's still alive. They used to have a three-legged dog on site.

That is that is actually very surprising for me to hear. I made it up.

No, I don't know what to believe. So go back, study the video, watch JR's face.

I think that it's a brilliant move. Oh, the pond's totally consistent enough. It doesn't even

matter. All you have to do is put some strings across and be like, Hey, you have to swim through

this area, swim to the other side and run. It's just a swim run. Rich has done it a fucking

million a million and seven times. And he's done it in all temperatures and they're going to

they're going to run swim across the pond. There'll be some implements over there. They'll

fucking do those implements. Bill and Katie will set it up dope for Rich and then they'll swim back

and run up that hill. Final sprint up the hill on the side of the pond where they entered.

And it'll be amazing. The parking there is absolutely great. There's no fucking neighbors.

Yeah, I love to watch. Yeah, me too.

It's not JR programming the man classic. JR is on the council.

He's on the council. JR, you could admit that that's been said. That's the rich announced it on his

podcast. Yeah. All right, go back and rewind this video and watch it and see if you can study

JR's face to see how close we are. Daniel Brandon can't love her enough. She leaned into the

insane. I really do got to go. Okay, bye. She says there's, Andrew Hiller says there's no

coincidences. After 26.3, this is how they celebrated. This is not, this is not AI.

I don't know. I don't know. But Dave quickly moved out from behind there. So it was a very small

window for a photo. You believe in coincidences, guys? Yeah, based on my life being as weird as it

is. Yeah, I do. More fun to show us lots of fun tonight. Danny Spiegel,

someone was talking about how insane her body looked and how shredded she looked

seen her recently. And I guess she did something with some professional bodybuilder and they're like,

fuck, Danny's body is better than the professional bodybuilders, more shredded than the

professional bodybuilders. And here she is two days ago. This is a post. Irina is calling

and this new season of American gladiator is going to hit different from your April 17

exclusive exclusively on prime video. I tried to find some video of this. I'll give this a watch.

Will you give this a watch, Seth? Yeah, I've known about this for a while. I believe it or not.

I coach an athlete who's actually featured in the show. And as a contestant, not a gladiator.

And so I've known I've known this for a while waiting for it to come out. So I can't say who,

but one of the contestants was a long-term athlete of mine. So I'm excited to watch it for her.

Okay, you can't say who but to see Sean, will you peep this? Yeah, definitely. I was waiting for

it. But I think it looks this image looks kind of like AI'd up. So that might be why it's like.

But even in person, she looked at she looked, yeah, I think this is AI'd up, but she looked amazing

at a water polluted. I mean, she just looks shredded. And then I've seen other photos of her.

People have sent me links of photos with her with this bodybuilder chick and Danny was putting her

to shame. So she probably got that shit tuned up and perfect for being on camera. Anyway,

congratulations to her. She also won the Titan Games, right? Yeah. How much money do you think

this gig pays? No idea. Who knows her? Probably a lot. She probably doesn't get out of bed for,

you know, anything less than a big old check at this. He had put her down the front. She was like

right behind that main guy in the center. She's in that first row. So. Oh, front placement.

Right with a bathing suit that's popping.

You know what? I don't think I'm going to be able to do your show anymore. I feel like I'm

coming off as a complete like sociopathic liar. I think this is my last episode ever. I

don't know what you mean by coming off. Just just just go with the R. At least you didn't know

that guy doing the Iron Cross. That would not listen. Before you came on and I was talking to Sean

Mac, I was like, I think this motherfucker just told me he's been on four other shows since the last

time he's been on this show. I hope he's not diluting his his star power. Do I have a hard time

saying no? Honestly, because I like that's what your wife told me. That's what your wife told me.

There you go. Well, so it doesn't surprise me. And you have five gyms. And you've been around

since four. Now we know what happened to one of them. Right. And you've been around the Cross

of his face since God created light. So we know. This is pretty, this is pretty, this is pretty

wild. This is from Emma Lawson, who the potential to win the games and to be the heir to Tia is

definitely there. She's been in the conversation. I feel like she's a complete unknown since she's

been injured a year ago. I felt lost and stuck and frustrated after hurting my back. I'm sure if

I'd ever trained pain-free again. That's a year ago. She's saying that. But today I feel stronger

and healthier than ever. Train pain-free and contrast my body again. She's my pick to win the games.

She also switched training programs. Her I think her coach moved on to greener pasture.

And she is with Brute, which is never a bad sign.

Sean Mack, are you on them, Austin Banwagon? I'm excited to see her this year. I mean,

I'm not surprised to see this post because I've had back issues since high school. And when your

back is flared up, you would do anything to get out of that pain. And it can last for a while.

And you don't know if you'll ever deadlift or work out again. So it's definitely like a scary thing,

on the younger side of her career. So that can be really scary and freak out. So it's great to hear

that she feels stronger than ever. We can just think about Annie's career. She said the same thing.

After the fact, you know, with her back injury, she said she didn't know if she would ever work out

again based on what medical professional's told her. So it is something that can really set you

back. But it can also kind of spark the inspiration or motivation to go fix some deficiencies in your

training or imbalances or you've been skipping your warm-ups and you're not doing all the things you

need to do to take care of your body as an athlete. So, you know, as much as it sucks to hurt your

back, it may not have been the worst thing for her if it's helped her to really work on some

structural things because she is so young that she has such a long career out of her and potentially,

you know, CrossFit Games titles as well. I wonder if she really does trust her body. That's a hard

one to come back from. Herding your back's like an acid trip. You're like a bad acid trip. You

know what I mean? Like, you know what I mean, Seth? Like, you're an hour six and you're like,

holy fuck, and someone puts their hand in shoulder. Don't worry, it's going to be over. But with

the back injury, you're like, no one can tell you that. Yeah, I mean, me even personally, I didn't

deadlift for probably five years because I tweaked my back deadlifting so many times. I was so freaked

out by it. And then thankfully, I've come back around. It's fine now. But I'll just say, speaking

about Emma, I mean, she didn't compete in the CrossFit Games season last year. And, you know,

a lot of people disappointed by that. But she did compete in the WFP season. And so I got to watch

her pretty close and all the tour stops in the final. And watching her from the first tour stop,

there was a heavy deadlift workout in there. And she really was hesitating whether it was just

heavy and challenging because she hadn't been doing that for her back. Or she was just a little

gun shy. Like you're kind of saying that that workout really held her back. But then across

this yet other test similar to that across the next two tour stops. And she progressed last year

unbelievably. She looked so good at the finals compared to a lot of, there's still a pretty good

field at the finals of women. She looked so good. And if she's saying now that she's the finish,

she's been, this is four or five months removed from that. And she's ready for the CrossFit Games

season this year. Sky's a limit, like literally. And she moves very deliberate. There's no slop in her

moving. None. Yeah, she's one of the best movers in the women's field. I know we were talking about

last week or one one of the other shows recently. She's she's up at the top for quality movement.

Yeah, it's pretty well. Okay. This is just me needing help.

I want you to watch this video and explain to me what the fuck is going on. I watch this like five

times and I have no idea what I'm watching. Here we go. Have you guys seen this?

Well, you're watching the Savannah bananas. I know that, which is not what the yellow team is.

If I'm not mistaken, maybe I'm wrong. I'm guessing this is a little early, but it looks like the Savannah

bananas. Let's see. It says one of the filthiest pitches ever thrown. I have no idea what I'm

watching. Here we go. Oh, trick pitch. Oh, we got it. He got it. That's a trick play.

Josh the left team. The Gilmore sensational trick pitch. Strike out which translates to a trick.

Yeah, we got a full count here. Oh, trick pitch. Who threw that ball? You threw it behind

his back on it on his on his back swing. He loaded up behind his back. You ever like throw

throw a ball or a football or baseball around your back to your kids? Yeah, but I could never

throw it to 60 feet over a fucking plate. This is like a trick baseball league. They do all.

It's like a comedy acting meets baseball. It's super super entertaining. Harlem Globetrotters

for baseball. Yes. Is it a real game? I think they might either they script the games, but like

it's not always the same thing. But that is fun. They do. These moments are scripted for sure.

They have different. Yeah, it's it's a it's a Harlem Globetrotters show and it's more popular

than a lot of professional baseball teams now. No shit. They're selling out major stadiums faster

than real baseball teams. Yeah, I think it's the the guy who runs the league only he sells the

tickets for 20 or 30 dollars. And that's it. And the price is not supposed to go up. But they're

like impossible to get. Yeah. All right. This is crazy. Also Seth was the head strength coach for

the banana ball. All right. So I actually know a kid who plays in that league on I think it's

the firehouse team. Thank God, Sean. He's dad used to come to a gym and then he played college

baseball and wow, he's in this league right now. You know, kind of living out his pro baseball dreams

in the banana ball league. How many teams are there? I think they just expanded this year because

there was like four or six and now they they've added a few because it's just taken off. It's

really interesting. If you follow the guy who runs the league on Instagram, he talks all about

the whole league and running it and the ideas. And that's it's actually I think I think more

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Oh, real quick. What's what is going on in Hawaii? What island are you on and what is going on?

Yeah, on a Wahoo. I live pretty close to the North Shore.

And yeah, the the rains just been like nonstop for the past month or more.

That's what we get in the wintertime. A lot of rain, a lot of rain.

And so we've hit a couple of big storms in the last couple of weeks.

And basically the dams can't keep up. And the island's not drying out.

We just got smashed last night again. And so there's some areas.

A little probably 20 minutes north of me right by where my gym is.

Actually, my gym's fine. A little bit of leak in the roof.

But they are flooded out like up over the top of cars and stuff like that.

Houses ripped apart. It's it's actually a real mess.

And they're worried because we're supposed to continue to get hit all weekend.

At this major dam is going to fail. They've evacuated the entire area.

Two whole towns because of the dam fails. It will save the dam.

I think it's the I think it's in Wailua. I believe it is.

I'd have to I can send it to you after.

But it is the videos are insane.

And they're predicting the dam is going to fail.

And it will wash out two towns completely like everything.

So we'll we'll see what happens.

So hopefully people got out. But it's not raining now.

Yeah, back in your own place 51 minutes ago.

I've been getting the emergency like things things to my phone every hour on the hour.

That's how I've been up since 2 a.m.

That's how I woke up with that going off.

And it's been like nonstop flooding to ran up checked on the gym.

Gym is fine. Came home had you take the cover off my sewage thing

because it's overflowing everywhere.

So I'm just pumping sewage into my front yard because the water's so bad going everywhere.

It's like it's a mess out here.

You're on you're on septic.

Oh, yeah. Most people are that don't live in the city.

Wow. Is your house in danger at all?

No, I live up on a hill.

So this water running down the mountain behind me.

But it's like around the sides.

Luckily we're we're we have a pretty good spot.

Yeah, this is Maui.

This this was a couple weeks ago or last week.

It's like snow. Oh, shit.

That that that house was built about 300 feet from where the river was.

It was permitted and built 300 feet through the river.

The river came up 300 feet and swallowed the whole house.

That's how much flooding happened on Maui like two weeks ago.

It's been nonstop.

Wow.

That wasn't wind that took that away.

It was windy too.

But look at the river.

It washed out all the ground below it.

So everything with all the support it was built on basically just eroded away

in the house tipped over with the wind.

Oh my goodness.

So yeah, that's that's big island.

But yeah, if you look up a North Shore and a Wahoo right now,

they're getting it the worst.

They are absolutely crushed.

Is this considered a hurricane?

No, it's just a tropical storm with with that huge amounts of rain.

It's not windy enough and so now it's not technically a hurricane.

It's just wind wind and rain.

Is it cold?

No, it's like 75 to 80 degrees.

It's warm.

I've been out in the rain like not getting cold,

dealing with stuff like constantly the last few weeks.

Is your gym threatened at all?

Oh my god.

Look at it.

Wow.

It could be.

But it's not right now for whatever reason it's not.

Yeah, Kihei, that's Maui.

Yeah, the road just went in.

So those places are not getting hit is bad right now.

It's pretty much a Wahoo on the North Shore.

And it's getting, I mean, if you go through social media,

it's up over cars.

People are paddle boarding around and stuff to get around.

It's crazy.

Their houses are completely underwater.

How many people will be, uh,

have their shit destroyed at the dam breaks?

Is it thousands?

Oh, it's, it's a major major, well, not as a major town for a while.

It's a, it's a well-known tourist destination town called Haleiva.

It's like in the North Shore.

If you were visiting a Wahoo,

that's where you'd go to like see the North Shore

where all the restaurants are.

A lot of houses, that's the surf spots,

stuff like that for, for tourists.

And it will get pretty well wiped out if the dam breaks.

And then when the rain continues.

Are people surfing?

Do people surf get out there and surf this?

I mean, this is why the bigger the way

the crazier the people are out there, yeah.

Are we live?

No.

Not really.

We were.

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