The Windshield Wash Relay + Previewing CFB Week 1 with Jessica Smetana | Hour 2

0:00It's one of my favorite times. There's that point in every summer where I start convincing myself, I'm going to be normal about football this year. Not as emotional. Not lose myself completely in it. And then the game start. The sprinklers. The smell of grass. The roar of the crowd. The toasting of Miller Light. Ah, that right there my friends. That's my favorite part about all of this because make it football time is great. Make it football time a Miller time. That's special. Some of my favorite weekends are built around football. Getting everybody together, putting the college games on on Saturday come back for the NFL on Sunday, order way too much food, and crack open Miller lights for me and my friends. That's a perfect weekend for me. And Miller light is a beer I reach for every time because it's crisp, refreshing, and easy to drink. Especially when football starts. When it's still somehow down here. 90 degrees in Miami. It's a true American pilsner that cools the body down the original light beer since 1975 and just 96 calories and 3.2 carbs. Legendary game days start with a Miller light.

1:00Make game day legendary. Go to Miller light.com slash stand by delivery options near you or you can pick up some Miller light pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Game time is Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller brewing company Milwaukee Wisconsin 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. We are listening to the down levatar show in partnership with the Draftkins Sports Act now live in all 50 estates. It was in all fairness a hell of a game for AJ Dewey. Thank you. How many career and receptions did AJ Dewey have? Four. How many did he have in that game? Three. That's no worthy. It is. Just not rent when you're eulogizing Chuck Norris. No, 77. That was a muddy field. It was the AFC championship game. Wasn't it? I remember 14 nothing the dolphins beat the jets because of AJ Dewey. 77 ran it into the end zone off the right arm. Dictat.

2:01The gas station address and there is quite the crowd gathered because our partners the best teammates we have ever had. They have decided on DK game day to give away free gas in Miami and all over the country in Dallas and Atlanta and other places as well. Draftking Sports gas station. The address is 15290 Northwest 7th Avenue 3 3169. We have the show Olympics going on out there. Jessica will be delighted to know that Tony lost the football tire throw competition to a man whose winning throw didn't get fully through the tire. That's how it goes around here. We will check in with Jessica in just a second. But let's check in with Jeremy first. Jeremy, what information do you have for us? That crowd is substantive out there. You were sweaty. You're saying it is hot as balls. I don't think of balls as hot. I don't know how that expression ended up getting so popular.

3:01I think of it as swampy more than hot. But Jeremy, what do you have for us out there at the Draftking Sports gas station located at 15290 Northwest 7th Avenue? Really glad you looked for another clarification from balls to hot and swampy. But yeah, Dan, it's hot as balls, whether it's swampy or hot. They made a really good decision here. All of the folks that come through to get free gas, they stay in their car. So they get the comfort of air conditioning, no matter where they're going at any of these Draftking's located. Well, you have to turn your car off. It's live. The air would not be on when they're sitting there pumping the gas if we're just being technical. It was important to do that. Draftking Sports is live in all 50 states and partnership with Draftkings. The crown is yours, y'all. And remember, Atlanta, Dallas, Detroit, LA, and Miami, between 10 and 2. So keep on coming by to the address that Dan told you about. We're in our final competition at the show Olympics.

4:03And this is going to be a huge one. This is the windshield wash relay. So rules are pretty simple. You're going to get one half of the windshield with the squeegee, then you're going to dry it off. Then you're going to run around to the other side, do the same thing. I got a stopwatch here. All right? I got a stopwatch. I'm going to be the one doing the time. And just so that we all know, if you go to our free-to-play game, you can see you can take a chance on under 20 to 29.99 seconds, 30 to 44.99 seconds, or 45 seconds or longer for the fastest official time in the windshield wash relay. So Tony's going to go ahead and go first. Tony, you ready for this one? All right, Tony. On your mark. Get set. Go. All right, there goes Tony. Clever decision, not to lift. Now he's trying it off. I do see some water in the middle. That was a good move. That was a good move. He got all of the windshield here.

5:04Now, ooh, interesting to go top down for the rest of this. And time. Stop. That is 15 points. That, I mean, there's got to be a penalty of some sort. That's a slide. They did a run this job. Nine seconds. Who cares what time he did. He made a mess. What's good? Yeah, let's make more of a mess of this free-to-play game as well. Damage check. Good job. I'm not going to attack me. He's cock chair. Matthew Coco, you're up next. Here comes Matthew Coco. And he's finishing his energy drink. And Tony left the window dirtier than it was when he started. Go. And there goes Coco. Lot of water for Coco. Lot of water. Here goes one straight splatting. Bottom up. And then extra couple of strokes. He's going for here. Hey, he runs over to the other side. I think we're going to be in real trouble here. He missed a spot. What the hell is happening over there? He's getting the rest. And it's still pretty streaky, but we'll call that time 20.

6:0724 cars deserve better. Seconds. Zaz, you ready to go? All right, Zaz, on your mark, get set. Go. Go ahead, Zaz. What's Zaz, Gaze? You're just going to urinate on it? Oh, there he is. Zaz is in the car. And the car just using the wipers. OK, that's smart. But he said what the rules were. This is why the rules are important. This is why it's important to me. Three, eight seconds for Zaz. Wow. You just see him literally cutting corners there. Congratulations to the Cuck. He is the winner. Gaze, Zaz. All right, can I go home? Yes, thank you, Jeremy. Appreciate you. I'm going to get some free gas and then get back to the studio. All right, it is really hot. And this is where it is that I want to start with Jessica because it was hot at the Rose Bowl for USC this week. LA Coliseum. LA Coliseum, excuse me. You Antoni. And Lincoln Riley, I want to get into this, though, because Lincoln Riley is saying that there's a false narrative

7:10around how few people were at the USC game against San Jose State. Listen to Lincoln Riley here getting mad at us because people weren't at his game. Just this is this is USC, right? People are going to pay attention. People are going to have an opinion. It's part of being a blue blood school. I don't buy into false narrative. I think that comes from a lot of people that don't follow our program. And most of those who have never set foot in the Coliseum, the reality is during my years here, the tendons have gone up every single year. As has our play in the Coliseum, include running the table last year in front of a lot of epic atmospheres. And I expect that to happen again this year. And now listen to Texas Tech Coach, Joey McGuire sort of making fun of the whole thing. Not to take any shots, because I have a lot of respect for USC and Lincoln Riley, but man, it's really awesome to be playing in Lubbock, Texas. No, we're going to be playing in front of 60,000. And it's going to be warm. It's going to be ever bit as warm as it was Saturday.

8:10The great thing is we got some really tough people at West Texas that love their football and they're going to show up. And no matter what the weather's like, there's not going to be any excuse of why they're not going to be here for us. So not going to take a shot. Don't want to take a shot while I'm going to take a shot because they can't handle the weather. What are your thoughts here, Jessica? I love that Lincoln Riley said it was a false narrative because this was a documented thing that happened on television. And I also love that he said most of the people peddling this narrative have never stepped foot in the Coliseum. Yeah, that's actually the point. That's what we were talking about. And one of the people stepping foot in the Coliseum right now. I actually thought, though, that what was interesting about this damage check is if it's a noon game and some of the players' parents are saying, well, my wife passed out. There were 15 people in the medical tent. They were saying it was a bit of a heat emergency. It was 97 degrees. I don't really blame fans for not wanting to watch anything in that weather. Well, as Petros Papadacus, USC alum and Voice

9:13and Los Angeles pointed out, the issue isn't so much the heat as it is the state of the program and how Lincoln Riley does or more accurately does not engage the history of USC and the fan base. And now there's some distance between the program and Lincoln Riley and the fan base. You make good points. And, Jess, I'm sure you saw the comp's same opponent, similar temperatures even, similar time at game. And the sands were way more full, at least the optics provided that. Well, this is the other piece of context down, which is that this San Jose State game was added in week zero after the cancellation of the Notre Dame USC series this year. And the USC faction of this has been saying that they want to play Notre Dame in week zero. They want to move that rivalry game that's historically been played in October, November 2, the opening week of the football season because it's better for USC schedule now that they're in the big 10. Even though this was already a non-conference rivalry

10:15before they joined the big 10, it was just a pack 12 and independent, non-conference rivalry, not big 10 independent. So nothing has really changed in that respect. But they were complaining a lot throughout the off season that Notre Dame wouldn't move this game to week zero. And then they played in week zero when it is typically, yes, very hot outside. It's the last week of August. And now there is complaining that it was a bad opponent and it was too hot. So no one would show up. But they would have showed up if it was Notre Dame and blah, blah, blah. So this is definitely a sort of crisis of their own making. But I also think that I talked to Lucy this week about it on our podcast. She said when she went to a USC U-Talk game three years ago, when USC was really good, they also didn't have a full attendance at the game. So it is something that sort of transcends just this moment and time. But my real thought about all of this and the reason that we're still talking about it on Wednesday is that the reaction from a lot of USC fans is that it's clearly something they're very sensitive about. And if you as a college football fan base

11:17let people into a little thing that you're sensitive about. Everyone else is going to pounce. And there has been a lot of LA West Coast condescension about like, well, obviously people are going to your Texas tech games. You live in like a little crap hole in Texas. There's nothing better to do there. And so the fangs are out, the claws are out. And people are not happy with it. So they're just, we're still going. Like, it's been four days and we're still going with this. And I think it's great. Every business wants to be ahead of the competition. But with AI moving as fast as it is, keeping up can feel like a full-time job. They say every day your business is late to AI, you fall two days behind. So how are you going to catch up? That's where NetSuite next comes in. NetSuite, the AI powered business management suite, is trusted by more than 44,000 customers. And securely connects your financials, inventory, commerce, HR, and CRM into one source of truth. Now, NetSuite next brings AI directly into the way you work. It automatically surfaces custom insights throughout your day.

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13:19I want to talk to all of you though about the idea though that it is a scientific fact that it's going to keep getting hotter and hotter. A division to running back ended up dying on the field, on the sideline last weekend after a touchdown was scored. And when I was in Malibu this last week, I was surprised because I was not aware that all of their beachfront property, all of it, had been burned down because 100 mile an hour winds made it so that fire went across a four lane stretch of highway that it should not have burnt across. Because again, 100 mile an hour winds, I would assume that the heat is going to be a problem in college football for the players and the fans going forward in a way we're never coming back from. Like it's only going to get hotter from here. And I think the Miami teams practicing in this weather, I think it's cruel to have football players practicing

14:21in this weather when our guys can't stand at a gas station for an hour because of how hot it is. How is it that this is going to end up impacting college football crowds? You guys really think this is just a USC thing where it's about the program and not about the fact that people were in medical tents and passing out in the stands? Yeah, this is, people were not just not at this game because of climate change. Like I said, they have had attendance issues in the past because of what Petro spoke about, the state of the program and just sort of like a lack of enthusiasm about the program. Other games where they haven't been at noon in August have also suffered from this as well. But to your point though, I generally agree with you and they're moving the season up a week next year. So this is going to continue to be a problem and college football has always been played in very hot climates that are going to get hotter and I think everyone is sort of, I don't know, just wishing this problem will go away

15:23and putting their head in the sand like they are with all the other aspects of the heat death of the universe that no one really wants to face because people are leaving it. As specific to the heat, I do assume that I am fighting a losing battle by saying we need football played outside. I mean, more every time with the exception of the top of my head, the bills are the only team that's built a new stadium that doesn't have a dome on it. So yeah, but there's plenty of time. 20 years from now, that will not be an issue. I mean, this sport is famously played in the fall and winter. Yes, it's hotter at the start of the season. Venues are also changing. I know Dan was mentioning, you know, having our team's practice in here. I've been at the practice field. It is hot. I've also moved from the indoor practice field where a lot of the drills are held then out for the scrimmage port of practice. So they're not out there very much. They're not a lot of antiquated venues now in pro sports certainly, like the LA Coliseum where there's no shade. But, you know, September games, August games, it's hot.

16:24The two hottest sporting events I've ever been to have been in front of packed sold out crowds. The camwards debut at Gainesville, the hottest place I've ever been in my entire life, packed to the rafters and the World Cup match in Philadelphia where the temperature on the pitch was 140 degrees, not a seat that was empty in that place. And to be fair, it was legit miserable in Southern California over the weekend, as you experience stand, unusual humidity and otherwise. The locals don't like that. They may be a little bit delicate about it. Jessica, what were your thoughts from week zero? I have so many thoughts. I really, really liked the late game, the Memphis UNLV game that I was able to stay awake for because I'm in central time right now, which is God's time zone. I thought that Stanford, who Miami will play this Friday night at Stanford, they looked like a competent football team with their new head coach. Bill Belichick getting his first big win of his career at North Carolina so far. I thought was really fun.

17:25And I love that it was played in a sort of like slop-ball type way because at the end of the game, it just felt like a classic Belichick win. It was like we didn't really have the juice on offense, but we gutted it out and we were smart and our defense kind of carried it for us. And now we get to take a happy plane ride back to Chapel Hill on Erlingus. LSU football officials are confirming that Saturday's season opening home game against Clemson will be the most media and celebrity credentialed game in Tiger Stadium history. That's all Lane Kiffin, right? Yeah, this is going to be a massive game and I'm actually really happy that it is being played on campus because these types of games are usually ones that are in Charlotte or Atlanta or wherever like the kickoff classic games are. And so this is going to be a really, really exciting game. And I know a lot of people are really burnt out of Lane Kiffin coverage in general because everything going on with the NFL training camp players

18:27coming back to college and the 24 hour vigil that ESPN held for him when they were trying to figure out if he was going to leave Ole Miss or not. And everything that's happened since, you know, the fake dog allegedly. But I am kind of happy that College football does have a character like this because it takes the attention away from like all the other stuff and like people who aren't really as hyper focused on the ins and outs, like they get a little Lane Kiffin thing and they get to enjoy being angry with Lane Kiffin. And so it's fun and I'm happy that that's there. Mike, would you do me the favor of looking up whether technically and scientifically balls are cooler than the rest of the body? That's why they're outside the body. Yeah. But it is still, like you said, well, I thought of that more as like a swampy thing. Swamps are hot. Yeah, but the balls are cooler than the rest of the body. I mean, you got to be something, man. Like honestly, like hot as balls playing. But hot as balls have been the same forever. And you're like, well, technically it's won't be.

19:28That's the whole point. It's a hot as balls. You're sitting on the balls. The balls are in between your legs. They're in your shorts. You're on top of the balls. They're warm. The weird one is when people say it's colder than a witch's tit. What is that? How do we know the temperature at all of the bosoms? I guess because they're pointy, like witches hats are pointy and they're very, I don't know. I get the sense that witches are very angular. We are not sitting on our balls. And I feel like you are currently sitting on your balls. I'm not that money. I'm not sitting on. They're more resting. That would be beer where I'm sitting. I like Smetana telling us our business. You're the least equipped to weigh in on this. That's what you think. Do you guys see Casey Muscreves has this giant disco scrotum that she sits on at her concerts? I saw that and I was like, is that what I think it is? And I think that. Anything else from week one that you're finding more?

20:31Not into the Casey Muscreves. More interesting than Lane Kiffin? Well, what about before you answer that, Jess? This is alien predator kind of stuff, right? Are we forgetting who they're playing? What do you mean? They're playing dabbo. I mean, there's nobody to root for in this game. That's a problem. Ha ha ha. Yeah, there's the balls. There's the sack, the disco sack. I respect it, honestly. I like what she's doing. Those are truck nuts. Yeah. Yeah, those are exactly. Thank you, Chris. Yeah, I think LSU's gonna win. I think I'm pretty down on Clemson the last couple of years. Like last year, I thought they'd at least be good enough to win in conference. And then they might lose to LSU. And maybe they'll lose to a good conference opponent, but they'll be fine. But no, they were pretty brutal last year. But dabbo's trying to reinvent himself. He brought back Chad Morris as the offensive coordinator who he had a lot of success with in the 2010s eras of Clemson football. Their defense has been fine. It hasn't dropped off quite as much as the offense.

21:32But I don't know. I think LSU is just gonna be ready to go. It's a night game. It's a home game. I think it'll be a lot of fun. So yeah, actually, is it a night game? I think it might be an afternoon game. But either way, I'm with you Dave. I think it's definitely alien versus predator vibes. But I kind of am rooting for Clemson just because I miss the days of dabbo doing like his fun word play. Like I saw him say something over the week that was like, he needs to stay in his lane or something. Like a lane kiffin word play joke. And I missed that. And we don't get enough of that when they're down in the dumps and they're not getting as much national media attention. Jess, are you with me that I think that a game is being overlooked this weekend and come CFP final selection time. We're gonna revisit this Louisville Ole Miss game in terms of what it establishes for conference narratives at the start of the season. I think this game is gargantuan. Yeah, I think that Jeff Brahms has a, you know, an upset up his sleeve every season.

22:34And there are, Louisville's very good defensively last year. But I don't feel that great about the quarterback situation just because I haven't really seen Lincoln Keenholz play before. And I think Ole Miss is gonna have a great defense to start the season. And I just really like Chamblis and Lacey for Ole Miss. So I think that they're gonna win that game. I know it's like a touchdown spread right now. I think the other interesting game if you wanna talk about like a non-conference thing that maybe we'll look at for some points of comparison later in the year is UCLA and Cal. They're two teams with brand new head coaches, Bob Chesney's a coach that's very highly regarded because of what he did at Holy Cross and Edgene's Madison and someone that I think a lot of people thought would be up for the Penn State job. But he ends up at UCLA who just fired their athletic director. But don't look at that. Focus on this team. They are going to be a team that I think gets better throughout the season. They have Nico, I'm yet, oh my God, I haven't said his name in like a year and a kid yet now. It's just Nico. It's a tough one.

23:34Nico, yeah, Nico had his moments last year. He was good. And Cal's got a great quarterback in JKS. JKS, yeah, exactly. And he was a true freshman last year and he was electric. And they also have a new head coach, Toshlepoi who came from Oregon. So I'm very excited for that Big 10 ACC matchup because I think if both of those teams are at least solid this year, that could be, like I said, like a very good reference point for the rest of the Big 10 and the ACC teams and how we are ranking them compared to one another. Any thoughts on Penn State debuting the paternal family experience room? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Hey. That says it all. Yeah, what the hell? Like the first of all, like putting his name on anything, I thought was like, never going to happen again. But I'm curious, was this in the works when Franklin was there and then he, like they waited to unveil it after he got fired? Like I'm, because he kind of like kept a lid on things

24:34while he was that coach there. Because I know there is like factions at play in Penn State land and I don't know, Dave, as a, as a Yinser, you could probably speak to this as well. But there's gotta be a better name for that. Apparently there's like a replica of paternal's desk in it. It's like some sort of museum exhibit thing and they're putting their trophies there. This is just one of those things that like, the name more is a cult. That's what it is. It's like a cult that they would do this. There's Penn State fans that are like thrilled about this. Like they think this is like finally we're honoring Joe paterno and like it's ridiculous that we weren't allowed to, we're not allowed to talk about him anymore and we can't honor this guy. He's a huge legend. And then of course there's other people who are like, yeah, and then what happened. And I know to your point, like yeah, there's still a cult around the paterno name in the paterno family and they're getting a museum now. The paterno name making a return less surprising somehow than Nazis making a return. The Orlando Magic Home Arena hosting a Nazi boxing event,

25:39you guys should pay a little bit of attention at least to what's happening in UFC as well, where there is a Nazi movement as well making a resurgence. What are your thoughts here Jessica on the Orlando Magic featuring Nazi boxing event? Yeah, so this was apparently from the Kia Center which is owned by the city of Orlando from what I understand and operated by this group called Orlando Ventures. They put out the statement that I thought was like pretty pathetic, which is like well, first amendment, you can wave a Nazi flag and it's fine and there's nothing we can do about that. But that's not my understanding of how business works. I think if you didn't want to have this event at your arena, you could probably just say no, we don't wanna have this event at our arena. So I thought it kind of fell flat here but this is kind of like the increasing normalization of extreme views that we're seeing all over the place and I think the only way to overcome that is to be like, hey, cut that shit out. Like we're not doing this, we're not doing this here.

26:40Go somewhere else, you're not going to be doing this at the place where an NBA team plays. That's ridiculous, what are we doing? Check out her weekly Notre Dame podcast, The Echoes. It's with Mike Golick Jr. It will cover you on Notre Dame, all things Notre Dame. I was talking before Jessica yesterday about how the University of Miami, I believe this is the most exciting and anticipated season for University of Miami football in 25 years. Where are you on Notre Dame and the anticipation for this season? I am very excited for this Notre Dame season. I think that CJ Carr is a very good quarterback and it's the first time that Notre Dame's had a quarterback returning who played the previous season at Notre Dame in over six years now because they've had a lot of, transfer quarterbacks and last year was CJ's first season. So his first time starting. I think the defense is going to be fantastic and I think the schedule is lined up in a way where if they beat Wisconsin on Sunday,

27:41they have a nice few weeks to figure out who their primary pass catchers are going to be. That's kind of my big question, Mark. A lot of wide receivers that, you know, with the exception of Jordan Faeson who was their leading receiver last year, we have to see who's going to be that player because last year, Dan, I don't know if you know this, Notre Dame had two running backs selected in the first round of the NFL draft. So they're both gone now. So that was a lot of the offense. They scored a lot of touchdowns and so they got to figure out who's going to score the touchdowns this year. But I think I said this on my show with Mike this week, we will be in Green Bay. We have a live show next to Lambo Field on Sunday at 3 p.m. Central. Again, God's time zone. Wisconsin has the ingredients to upset teams this year. They are obviously not the best in the big 10, but they have a quarterback who can run who was very good last year at Old Dominion, Colton Joseph and they have a defense that has a few really nice young linebackers. So if this is a game that Notre Dame has to grind out, would not surprise me in the slightest.

28:41Well, the good news is that they played in Deanna last year. Well, the great news is that even if Wisconsin dumps them, it will not impact the Irish's ranking. Because of course you can't impact the Irish ranking. Even if they lose their first two games of the season as a for instance, right? Yeah, well, they didn't lose their first two games last year to an unranked big 10 team that went eight and four and eight. No, they lost to a dreadful Florida state team. That's a that's who they lost. No, that was Alabama. Oh, Alabama. You're getting you're getting Alabama's the team that they're the ones who didn't belong in the play. To East Carolina this weekend. Exactly. You're getting all twisted up. The I've seen people say like, oh, this is the year that the CFP. They're going to go off of strength of schedule more than record. Did we not do that last year when Alabama got into the playoff after losing to Florida state in Georgia and Oklahoma? And whatever. I'm going to mind our penalty two minutes for adding nothing. What day of the show? Not me. I like the set. You know what?

29:42I deserve. Jessica, thank you for being on with us. Again, the name of the show, the echoes is not, not, not. An echo, Chico, it's a Notre Dame podcast. She does it with Mike Goliak, Jr. Thank you, Jessica. Appreciate the time as always. Tony, you know that moment at a party or a tailgate where everything just sort of clicks. I know it well. It's usually when I show up. Everybody goes crazy. Yeah, you usually take all the credit for it, but it's because Tony usually walks in with Quarvel. I'm blocking my piss. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Quarvel is a thing that turns hanging out into, this is the night. It has that effect on people. It does. You usually take the credit for it, but again, it's the Quarvel effect. It's like that moment in a big game where everyone in the crowd just starts standing up, hooting and hollering. Keep it, Quarvel. Keep it, Quarvel, baby. Down levitar. The person who insists that they- They've been a chick. When they make a list of the great-

30:42Well, the first one is when they say of all time. This is the down levitar show. So I want to ask you guys something because I have not read this article. There are an assortment of grifting shitt stains that do something in the modern age to just traffic in the stupidities of the day. And I saw that one of the descendants of these shitt stains tried to reach out to me yesterday. And so they write predictable things all the time. And because they are a largely racist outfit, I think that they didn't understand that I was talking about color analysts, and they just made it colored analysts. Because I was not talking about when I said, have you noticed that with Luke Keighley and JJ Watte, have you noticed with Daryl Johnston, have you noticed with Tony Romo, have you noticed with all of the white cowboys that end up getting the greatest broadcasting jobs?

31:47I was not talking about the people who are on the shows that get a rating of 500,000 people. I was talking about the network sanctioned football partnered shows on Sundays and Monday and all the other day that get the 10 and 15 million viewership numbers and that is the framing and accent on the voices that end up being next to the play-by-play guys in the NFL when all of America is watching. And I was talking about how those color analysts are disproportionately white when the sport is disproportionately black. And I've talked about some about in the past. When the league transitions from its famous great white quarterbacks, the paint mannings, the Tom Brady's, the Ben Rothless Burgers, to the Lamar Jackson's, when that position, the last of the truly white positions gets shifted, what you end up happening in the sport as it transitions,

32:49is there have to be some measurements, not unlike what it is that you see in basketball, that the white people governing the sport make about who they put in charge of being faces, voices for the league and the partnership. And so I was saying yesterday, Dave, that Luke Keatley making an ascendance, there aren't that many white stars that you get to choose from outside of the quarterback position. There are some tight ends, but there aren't usually a lot that end up holding the football who aren't quarterbacks. And so I was saying when every job that comes open goes to a Daryl Johnston or JJ Watt or a Luke Keatley, I was wondering why there aren't more Jonathan Vilmos. Do you have a theory as to why it is that that that happens that isn't just white people end up hiring white people for white people? I guess my best swing at this would be that it is the Ryan C. Crest paradox,

33:52which is that you want compelling figures out there, but what you ultimately wind up with with the executives making these decisions is something that is going to be the least offensive to the biggest percentage of viewers and consumers. And Ryan C. Crest is vanilla and by definition, he's not going to offend anybody. Nobody's going to necessarily enjoy him, but he's not going to offend. So I just can't list the NFL lead color analyst teams from all the major networks. Lewis Riddick is part of the secondary team whenever they do the double header Monday night football game. So I guess he's a part of that mix. There's Logan Ryan, Jonathan Bill Ma and Robert Turbin. It's four. It's certainly disproportionate to what the labor force looks like. I mean, Chris Collinsworth is on there. He's a white, white receiver. Like when we're talking about the lead teams on all these networks, the lead color analyst is a white man. And that's simply numerically so.

34:52I didn't even think I was saying anything that was particularly controversial. What I was asking yesterday doesn't represent the labor force. It well, and I think though that that is by design. I think that you can say, okay, that when the league is trying to make itself most palatable to the majority of Americans, it is. And you have white people in power everywhere who tend to hire people with whom they have commonalities. You can call that racism if you like or you could just say race is a factor there. And that is human nature. If you prefer to be benign about it, to me, it seems like a fairly obvious thing that I can't help but notice that there have probably been a hundred black Luke Kekeley's recently. But the one that gets the job is the white Luke Kekeley that JJ what might be an aberration because he's a bigger star. But generally speaking in that sport, the majority of stars who aren't quarterbacks, they are black.

35:58Well, even the ones that are quarterbacks, I do remember saying, and I think he said this in public spaces. So I don't feel like I'm betraying anything to say Deon Sanders is again, I believe on the record about Cam Newton saying he is not a, he doesn't, he's not a CEO. And that's what you have to be as the quarterback of a team. Deon Sanders, prime time, you think that Cam Newton, it dresses too silly and is too bombastic. You're saying that prime time? He's saying, yeah, I was a quarterback. I was a kicker, turn. I was an entertainer. You can't be like that if you're the quarterback of a team. I suspect that television executives have that sort of outmoded, probably outmoded type of philosophy. The question that I was asking though yesterday is, do people still notice this? Like, as these things happen, and like we just got done talking about Nazis, we just got, you know, every day more news about where it is and how it is

37:00that people are divided racially in this country in a way that has been, you know, that has been gurgling and bubbling more overtly in the last few years to welcome Nazis out of hiding, out into the public where it is you used to have to wear a hood to hide your face on some of this stuff. And now some of these people have ended up being emboldened on the extreme ends of this. Obviously, we're in the playground. We're talking about the silly nonsense. You do understand how it happens though, right? That the league and its executives want to put as voices and faces on the days that you're watching, the most sponsored and lucrative thing that there is in sports. How the black people are largely the ones playing it and the white people are the largely the ones critiquing it and examining it. Well, you know, when Colin Kaepernick happened a decade ago, I and a couple of other people were called into to a boardroom by executives and told stop talking

38:03about the Colin Kaepernick taking a knee and Malcolm Jenkins raising a fist and so on. Why? Why should we? It's the story of this NFL season and I was told no one cares what you think about it, Dave. Don't talk about that. And so offensive on that level, but beyond that, it was explained only 10% our research tells us that at the extremes, 10% our hardcore right, 10% our hardcore left, our north star is the middle. We are trying to serve the other 80%. And that's what dictates their decision making. And so Colin Kaepernick is associated with extremism. Ergo, he is not vanilla. Kaepernick gave an interview the other day for the first time in a long time and says he doesn't watch professional football. He watches college football because he was black balled and because of how he feels about being black ball. But do you guys find it any kind of amazing?

39:04I don't know if you still do or if this is tired as subject matter because we've been in it for 10 years. Do you guys find it amazing in any way that Kaepernick, when he was the quarterback that kneeling before the flag is something that gets you black balled before Dishon Watson ends up getting black balled that you can't play football for having an opinion, but you can play football and start for the Cleveland Browns for doing the things that Dishon Watson has done. Are you sure this Nazi thing happened because I'm on that publication and they didn't cover it? Am I sure that the... Yeah, I'm just checking out I'm cross referencing and you would think that it's right up the alley of what that publication does. They're not on that beat. Didn't cover it. That's not. They're busy sending me notes about my commentary and what it is that I have to say. I don't even know what they've written, but I can probably guess, given the fact that every time they reach out to me, it's about the same bullshit. The rationalization of people who were down on Kaepernick and then Malcolm Jenkins raising a

40:07fist was this is going to ruin the team's effort. This is going to impact wins and losses because you're dividing the team. As a reminder, the end of that story was Malcolm Jenkins with Chris Long going over a white man putting his arm around Malcolm Jenkins as his teammate, that team won the Super Bowl that year.