Throwback Thursday: David Flynn - The Occult Significance of the Roswell Crash

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How did you get interested in the crash and where do you come down on the argument of whether this was a supernatural craft or something of human origin?

I would think from a theological perspective people should pay attention to it because it seems to have been enormous.

It seems to have been a real American event and that would be Roswell.

I would think from a theological perspective people should pay attention to it because it seems to have been enormous.

I would think from a theological perspective people should pay attention to it because it seems to have been enormous.

I would think from a theological perspective people should pay attention to it because it seems to have been enormous.

I would think from a theological perspective people should pay attention to it because it seems to have been enormous.

I would think from a theological perspective people should pay attention to it because it seems to have been enormous.

I would think from a theological perspective people should pay attention to it because it seems to have been enormous.

I would think from a theological perspective people should pay attention to it because it seems to have been enormous.

I would think from a theological perspective people should pay attention to it because it seems to have been enormous.

I would think from a theological perspective people should pay attention to it because it seems to have been enormous.

I would think from a theological perspective people should pay attention to it because it seems to have been enormous.

I'm looking at it from this viewpoint but not because I'm morally aligned that way.

I realize what's actually written in the Bible as law that says these practices are not allowed.

These practices are not allowed.

I would think from a theological perspective people should pay attention to it because they are not allowed.

I would think from a theological perspective people should pay attention to it because they are not allowed.

They fall in when he says they're going to fall and things happen when he says they're going to happen according to this configuration he set up in the heavens.

Let's say when the Magi from the East came to, they said they followed the star and they actually found the Messiah.

They weren't turned away because they were idolaters. They were absolutely correct. The star led them to Bethlehem. They ended up finding the Messiah just like they understood they would.

There's an incredible biblical precedent for why they knew these sort of things. Historically they understood because these men in Babylon had actually spent some time with some of the most learned and gifted prophets of antiquity which had been in exile in Babylon before.

They were there in the actual court for a while as Magi themselves.

What they were doing is taking something that exists already in time and space, signatures that are already there in cycles in the heavens that they can actually view.

And if you look at from the pagan version of all these things, they were twisted and distorted and made to worship creatures and other people and other gods.

They weren't designed for that at all. They were designed to show gods dominion and power over time and space.

That's what it says right in the beginning in Genesis. He sets up, I guess the word is Mo'ed, times and season. He sets them up into motion. They're established in the beginning and they continue to point out times and seasons in the future.

The rosal event actually connects to that idea. Unfortunately, there is an evil side to spiritual hierarchy. There actually are forces. And this is a belief system that the Freemasons understand as being the dynamic power, the dynamo of what they're trying to connect with.

They believe the force outside, even in the atmosphere of the earth, that if they can connect with it, they can actually pull power down and come in the actual end of all of their work immortal in their own right.

And the signature of these things always ends up going back into the Bible. You'll see the same numbers. You'll see the same motifs and patterns repeated. And it's just turning over what we see in the Bible into a gnostic version of things. It's turned it over into instead of a religion of faith, a religion of trust of God and actually listening to what he says and doing what he says because we trust him.

It's an idea of it's all about becoming powerful through knowledge and gaining as much knowledge as you possibly can into the point where you've actually moved through mortality into immortality.

Yeah, anyway, I'm getting a little bit ahead of myself, but going back to Roswell again. When I started looking at this and its influence on culture, I realized that there was a spiritual component to it.

And before I actually took a close look at Roswell, I've been in studying eschatology and prophecy, especially about the second advent of Christ.

And there's more prophecy surrounding the second advent of Christ than there is even the first. And it may be because of that that the Jews and Jesus' time had rejected him because they were looking so closely at these prophecies that said the Messiah will come and rule the earth.

And all the world will be centered around Jerusalem and Jerusalem will be the ruling capital of the earth. And they're looking at this sort of thing while they're being occupied by the Romans.

And they're saying, well, that's the kind of Messiah we want. You don't fit the bill.

And even the disciples didn't even get that. I noticed you see an Acts chapter one. They're still asking 40 days after the crucifixion. Are you going to restore the kingdom of Jerusalem now?

So, yeah, they weren't alone. The ruling Jewish elite, even Jesus' disciples had a hard time grasping the concept.

It's astounding, too, today you're looking at almost the same situation that was going on in the time before Jesus was born. There were people who were looking at the prophecies of Daniel and saying, okay, well, here we actually have numbers of the years that have been written that say, you know, there's going to be a Messiah coming.

There were experts in the law who were ready to see Jesus, or the Messiah. I'm trying to think of the name of the high priest in the temple at the time. He was the Jesus Christ, or Ananias.

Anus was the father of the high priest. The one who, actually, after he saw Jesus' circumcision says, now I can die contented, but he was waiting.

Oh, it was an old man when Jesus was going to go in and be...

Was that it?

I think that's his name. He knew. He spent his whole life as a scholar of the three scrolls, I guess, back then. The Torah was in one scroll, the extra writings like Psalms and Proverbs, and that was in another scroll, and the writing of the prophets.

And he was an expert in all of these, and especially the prophecies of Daniel. And it was just basic arithmetic that he could count from what Daniel was saying, the actual decree that went out to go build the temple of Jerusalem and set the wall around it, which was set up by Cyrus the Great back.

Oh, was it 538 BC after the Jews were left out of exile in Babylon? You just count forward the number of years that Daniel had actually written, and he was in the age, and he was expecting this to happen.

There's a time now where there's a lot of signs that people maybe have forgotten to look for, because we're still working with the same constructs that are in the Old Testament, and it comes to what the Jews were expecting when Jesus first came, and we're still working with the same prophets and the same prophecies.

And I became intrigued with looking for the same signatures in contemporary events, especially ones that seem to imprint themselves so strongly in our culture and in the cultural mind, and especially in the realm of the occult, which ufology invariably has taken many people into the realm, which I think it was designed for from the beginning.

So, the number that stands out I think the most with the Roswell event is 33. Now, where do you come up with the number 33 in the Roswell crash?

It's in its latitude. The city Roswell lies on the 33rd parallel, which would be a lot of latitude around the earth, so you're moving out zero from the equator and not north.

On the poles, it's 90 degrees, so at the latitude of Roswell, it's 33. In any of the occult fraternities, the number 33 is the highest level you can attain as a degree of rank, and because they are all secret societies, they're all secret, for turtle occult orders, it's kind of hard to actually pin down why that is.

I've heard one suggestion that it may represent the one third of the angels that were swept out of heaven when Satan was thrown down.

Right. Yeah, and that's your rhythmic work again.

Yeah, also in Hebrew alphabet, the 11th letter, excuse me, the meaning of it is like heaven, it's a similarly liken to something, and of course the 22nd letter is taught, which is a symbol for Christ.

So liken to God, and up to 33. Oh, good one, honey.

What I've found is there is a consistent explanation that seems to fall, it always points back to something, and it'll do it in a number of ways.

I think what it ultimately points back to is this contest between, like you were saying, Derek, the one third of angelic realm that has rebelled, and you also see the number repeated in the actual age that Jesus Christ was during his crucifixion.

That's right, he was 33 when he was crucified.

And we know that because the law says a priest cannot begin his teaching until he's 30 years old.

Right, that's right.

And so Messiah, of course, holding in a completing the law perfectly would have to follow the letter of the law, this is kind of a 13th law, so you know he started it when he was 30, and then his ministry lasted for three years or three.

I think 3.33 years, and as a resurrection occurred, not only that, but the actual word of the place he was crucified, Golgotha, and Hermic.

If you look at that in Hebrew, it's Golgotha left, and it's spelled, I guess with the English equivalent, but there's no real vowels in Hebrew letters that can act as vowels.

But anyway, it's G-L-G-L-T, or Golgotha, two Gs, and two Ls, that if you add them separately, they equal 33.

Oh my gosh.

So all together, they equal 66, but if you were saying the two words by themselves, gal, gal, being around rolling thing like a head, it was 33 and 33.

And then the real ancient Semitic script for T is exactly that shape, it's a cross.

So you even have the word of Golgotha symbolizing Calvary, symbolizing the place where the cross is on the hill, the number 33 repeating again, too.

So this is something that you know the echelons of the Calvary would know. Those are all the symbolic geometric secrets, the numerical secrets.

There are students of the Bible, they pay very close attention to the ancient languages that the Bible was put together in, because not only is every letter in Hebrew a sound, but it's also a number.

Same with the Greek, and they realize this and you can see that they actually employ this over and over again in their works and in their temple lodges and so on.

So taking this understanding and looking at Roswell, you see the same signatures popping up, and 33 is probably the most apparent one.

The 33st parallel in America was also the site of the Trinity nuclear detonation, the first one ever attempted.

And when it was dropped, when the actual nuclear bomb was dropped in Hiroshima, Hiroshima exists at, I believe, 34.

Yeah, it's very close, Nagasaki is closer.

And Nagasaki is at 32. If you were to take and flood a line from Nagasaki to Hiroshima and then split the line evenly in the center, you would actually hit 33.33.

Oh my goodness.

And do we need to mention that Harry Truman was himself a 33rd president.

Yes.

And it would have been a little bit too obvious, I think, if you would have picked some city that was almost perfectly on the 33rd parallel.

Yeah, but you know, also, if you take the date of that we dropped the bomb, August 6, 1940, five.

Five? Yeah.

And those numbers are up to 33.

Oh, there you go. You know, the pattern, once you have a key and you understand, okay, these patterns are going to continue, because there's nothing new under the sun.

Yes, he says there's nothing new under the sun, under the sun, everything that has been will be again.

You know, no one can say, look, here's anything.

But a lot of people forgotten what the old things are.

And one of the most important points, I think, of this whole Roswell event is that it nails these ancient symbols.

And it points to, again, something in our future and then very close, close, I think, future that connects to the same idea is that the, the,

the Jews of ancient Jewish elimination, Israel were looking for when their Messiah was supposedly coming, according to the prophecies that they understood in the Old Testament.

We're seeing the same sort of message, I think, only we're seeing it in a twisted way, in an rustic way, in a way that incorporates an idea of a spiritual hierarchy that isn't aligned with.

The Christian message, the gospel, it's completely diametrically opposed to it, it incorporates motifs from it, but it's turned it on its head so that you just end up with the basic,

a message of what happened on the cross.

And I guess to cover that really quickly, it's not, the Nazis do not believe that Jesus was the Son of God.

They believe he was an incarnation of Lucifer himself, and that he just symbolized man moving through another stage of evolution on his own merits.

Right, his, his authority to become a God that was taken away from him by the demy urge, according to the gnostic belief system, who they say is the jealous God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

So, you know, you twisted this around in a gnostic, the gnostic view of this idea that Jesus really isn't who he said he was and really didn't do what he said he was supposed to do.

Yeah, it's the same old lie that's been handed to man since the garden, you can be as gods.

And it's the, it's significant that very many of the contactees of what people believe to be aliens are given this very message that these higher beings are here to help us transform or evolve into a new type of higher being ourselves.

Yeah, it's, it's, it's amazing when you actually, when you look into those cults, just, just kind of an aside, well, I said they're reticulants.

And then the person who's been channeling them.

Name Nancy, leader.

The one who's doing those at Ramza.

Oh, that's a JC Knight.

Yeah, yeah, that's the one.

And, and these people, they have a connection that they talk about the ascended masters who were here before, who, before the flood came, the world wide delusion.

They were teaching mankind, but we got too close to knowing our own divinity.

And so the, the jealous Demi heard destroyed the earth with the flood.

And then they're talking about, well, that's happening again.

We're going to get ready for this cycle to culminate once again.

And that, that is the message of Roswell.

That's what's being said, that there was a cycle that destroyed the earth in the past.

And now we're coming back to it.

And those are the data reticulants.

They, they actually maintain in their, their title, the same things that we were talking about when it comes to Jerusalem and 33 and across.

Azzada in the Greek alphabet is a letter that looks exactly like a snake coiled up, rearing to strike.

In fact, that's exactly what it was when it was made.

It was, you know, the simple of that actual configuration of a snake.

A reticle is in astronomy, the crosshairs of a telescope.

Right.

Azzada on a reticle, you have a serpent on a cross.

The snake out, okay.

Oh, my goodness.

And what you have, you know, the Messiah says, okay, you know, just like the serpent was raised on the pole in the desert by Moses, I'll be using the cross too.

Well, even today you'll look at the simple for, you know, on the back of every ambulance, you'll see a serpent on a cross.

Right, the Lucius.

And the symbol of healing, which is exactly what that was when Jesus is alluding to the symbol that was raised in the desert by Moses.

Unfortunately, as it seems to always happen, the Israelites started worshipping the symbol itself.

Right, exactly.

What it represented.

Yeah.

Represented to Messiah.

Same thing goes with the state of reticulum.

I think instead of focusing on the symbols and understanding that they lead back to the Messiah, that they're tied for a shadow of the Messiah,

and following back the shadow to the original thing that's representing, they don't.

They just start worshipping the symbol itself.

Well, there's some of these sort of signatures.

Well, well, let's talk about the location and or the timing.

Yeah, the date itself, 1947.

1947.

It's almost like Richard Holglin says, time release aspirin.

You don't get the understanding until you wait long enough in history after this, after the event to really see just how profound it is and how much impact it's going to have on the culture and the mind of thinking world.

And 1947 is a type as a signature of the tetrahedral geometry that he's been explaining as being on a place on Mars.

It's idonia that he says has artificial structures that have continuity between them.

There's a geometric pattern and actual design that mentions over and over again when it comes to the geometry internally and externally, this 19.47 relationship.

And as quickly as I can put this out, 19.47 is about tetrahedral geometry because let's say you take a tetrahedron.

It kind of looks like a pyramid.

It's just the four-sided, the simplest four-sided shape you can have.

It's the first platonic solid because you can't make anything with less sides than four.

And you take four equilateral triangles and you can glue their edges together and you have a tetrahedron.

If you put that inside a sphere, which is like the highest order of shapes you can have in platonic geometry.

And put it so that it's like at either one of the vertices, one of the points of this tetrahedron is touching it in the north of the south pole.

The other one, the other three, will be touching at either 19.47 below the equator or above the equator at the pinion where you put the point.

Oh my goodness!

And that tetrahedral geometry, that's where the 19.47 thing comes in.

And then he goes on to say that if you look at planets in our solar system, you'll invariably see an outwelling of power in some form from that latitude on the planet.

Say that the great red spot on Jupiter is 19.47 degrees in the north latitude.

There's a great blue spot on Neptune, it's the same place.

And the very largest volcano and largest mountain on our planet, which is covered by Pacific Ocean, still rises high enough over the oceans at the ocean level to be a real prominent island.

And that's why it's precisely at 19.47 degrees.

Monologa?

Yeah.

And if you actually follow how deep and how tall this volcano is, it rivals Mount Everest.

It comes from the very bottom of the Pacific basin.

And to explain why that's happening is something geology you're not really going to get a very good one.

But Holgen says there's something about tetrahedral configuration which causes energy in the cosmos to flow through certain patterns.

And you can get pretty.

There's a lot of studies that have been done in connection to his work in physics.

And they're pretty in depth and kind of hard to follow unless you're into physics or mathematics already.

But when you look back at Roswell again and you see the date 19.47, well, it's not exactly 19.47.

But what I did was start seeking a look at the relationships, the numbers that show up in the actual location and in the date and timing of the event had with each other.

And like I was saying, you're looking at Roswell event as kind of a statement that there's a world ruler coming in the same way that the Jews and Jesus time were looking for a Messiah that would come in rule from Jerusalem.

Well, what really stands out in all of this is that if you take that 19.47 number, you'll actually be able to combine it with some numbers that are pretty substantial when it comes to cycles in the heavens.

And that would be procession.

Procession is something that most people are completely unaware of and especially Christians because it's such a huge component to astrology.

Right.

And so to explain it, you have to kind of get into the realm of astrology a little bit.

How you can understand procession is there's a line that goes across our skies that the planets seem to travel in and the sun seems to travel in.

And that's called the ecliptic because we're on this plane of orbit.

All the planets are kind of on this relative plane of orbit.

So it's like a flat sort of like a plate say in the space and we're all orbiting the sun on this plane.

And so it looks as a line to us when you see the planets moving.

And as we go around the sun every year, we'll actually arrive at the same point we were just a few minutes later than we did here before.

And the reason is perspective.

The earth actually is traveling around the sun at the same clip.

The thing is that our orbit is inclined.

It's called a liquidy at about 23 degrees right now.

And so we got this point of access where we rotate where north is that's moving very slowly and kind of like a top that wobbles.

And because it does this so slowly, it actually makes one complete wobble in 25,920 years.

And because it's doing that, it appears that the sun is rising a little bit farther off every year at the same time along this ecliptic.

So along the ecliptic are also the signs of the zodiac to 12 signs.

And it'll take 72 years for us to move one degree along the ecliptic.

It'll take us 25,920 years to move a complete circuit around the ecliptic.

So we'll move through the whole zodiac, the whole 12 signs.

And then they're actually sighted at the cardinal astrology, the beginning of the year.

You're looking March 21st and whatever the sun rises, that's the year we're in.

Back in the 60s the song Age of Aquarius.

That was a big deal even though we're not exactly in Aquarius right now.

Right.

According to astronomy or astrology, that's why they're saying we're the dawning of it and that sort of thing.

That age will actually occur probably more around the year 2012 if you really want to pin it down.

So anyway, the thing that was really interesting about the Roswell numbers is of course 33 and third,

which is where this latitude is Roswell is.

And not exactly where the crash site is.

You can actually pin down the crash site in a slightly different coordinate than 33 and kind of third.

But what's really amazing about the whole area is that there are some universal mathematical constants that work into this.

Like procession and the other real big one.

And that's the number pi because the cycles in the heavens all seem to work on circuits on circles.

And the one number that we understand, the only number that we understand so far that actually somehow defines a circle is pi.

And pi is just this number 3.1415926.

It goes on for...

Well, the computer on Star Trek.

You can get to the last digit.

Yeah.

You can see it goes on forever.

I think after a couple thousand digits, it starts repeating.

But some people want to argue with that on competition.

But I know it's a real big number.

And if you actually...

And pi, it is really simple.

You don't have to worry about squaring anything.

Basically, if you know the diameter of a circle, that is, you know,

from one point to the other side of it, you know, a very whitest point of a circle.

If you know how big it is, if you multiply that times pi 3.1415,

you'll end up with the circumference.

How big it is around.

And conversely, if you know the circumference, but you don't know that the diameter, you divide it by pi.

Right.

And what happens at Roswell is, if you take the latitude of the Roswell impact site,

where this disk supposedly landed in 1947, and you multiply it times pi,

you get the longitude.

One of the longitude is...

Get old while four.

Yeah.

104.

Now, that by itself, let's say you were a scientist working for the search for extraterrestrial intelligence,

the radio dishes and so on.

They're looking for something like this.

They're looking for an intelligent signature in mathematics that is not dependent on a system of measurement.

They call it a universal constant.

With pi, let's say, if I'm measuring inches to find out how big a circle is around,

it's going to tell me, if I'm measuring in feet, it's still going to tell me.

If I'm going to measure it and it's something completely arbitrary, it doesn't matter.

I'm still going to get that in a relationship that works because pi is a dimensionless constant.

According to studies reasoning, an intelligent extraterrestrial should have a grasp of a dimensionless constant

because they can communicate with these things mathematically,

and they don't have to worry about the paradigm of thought or measurement or whatever from the other intelligent recipient.

That's embedded in the Roswell event.

It's been there since it happened, and it's really easy to overlook, and people say,

well, it could be coincidence.

It could be coincidence.

Well, if you would look at the number 33, and it's absolute importance in the cult fraternities world,

and it's absolute importance in our own Judea-Christian resource, the Bible,

then you can't say that 33 has nothing significant.

You can't dismiss the significance of pi.

And if you've gone through any even grade school math, unless you didn't pay attention,

unless one didn't pay attention.

And you get to this idea of what happens when you use these numbers together,

and that's where Roswell is, and it just happens to be the most significant UFO event in modern history.

Maybe there's others that have happened, and we didn't know about it, other crashes, and so on.

This is the one that's most possible. This is the one that's going to start at the ball rolling,

and it just happens to have occurred in 1947, which is another dimensionless constant.

Now, looking at a map that you provided with your article, and by the way,

for people listening to the podcast, we are going to put links to the article,

and to some of the other things that we discussed in the show notes on the RSS feed,

so that you can look these up and see the maps and so forth.

And if you're listening to the enhanced podcast, which will record in the Apple MP4 format,

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What convinced me that this wasn't just coincidence was the reported direction of the craft,

and the mathematical relationship that works out to the path that this craft took prior to its crash.

Can you talk about that?

Oh, yeah. There's a guy named Jim Hickman, who I met in Roswell, two years ago,

and he was head of, as he was a car, he was head of a UFO sky-watch international,

I think that's the name of it, and he was connected with Mufon in ICAP,

I think ICAP might have changed, but a big UFO watch group,

and he had written an article that was talking about the contemporary history of the Roswell event

and saying, you know, it's kind of strange that people would dismiss it out of hand

or say that, as the Air Force had supposedly come clean back in 2001,

or they said, no, that was really, these were weather balloons that fell,

and we were just testing how these balloons would drop crash dummies at high altitude,

and you know, they're basically like car crash dummies,

and we wanted to see what would happen if you fell out of a balloon,

something that was really strange. He said, well, that doesn't make any sense,

go back to the date that this happened, and look at the actual Roswell paper,

and there's an article where a night witness says they saw a luminous disc zoom right over their heads

from the direction of, it came out of the southeast,

and it was going roughly northwest, and it clipped the edge of the southwest of town,

and they still go into the distance and disappear over the hill.

There's also reports on the same newspaper that talk about how radar albacurkey

had been tracing these bogees for up to three days,

and that they were performing uncharacteristic flight maneuvers,

and a non-conventional, like moving it 4,000 miles an hour

and taking right angle turns, and that sort of thing,

and this is listed also. There was a huge world,

well, there's a huge United States UFO flap,

and a UFO flap is where you have multiple witnesses seeing things,

aerial phenomena that's unexplained over a few days,

and this is going on for a couple of weeks prior to the Roswell event,

and so people were primed when they see the headlines,

the American Army has captured a down-disk.

They were wondering what these things were because they had a flap going on for weeks prior to this,

so he's saying, looking at this history, you'll see that there was something happening,

and that the trajectory actually follows the line that I was talking about,

because with the latitude multiplied times pi,

and let's say the latitude of 33 degrees will start at say 33.00 minutes,

then 33 degrees 0.59, where it will shift over to 34 degrees north latitude.

You can draw a line from there, multiply 33 in each one of these instances times pi,

and it will be a line that has an angle that rises over run on your map of around 40 degrees,

but you can actually plot it going through the edge of Roswell,

just like the report said, and terminating at about 30, 40 degrees north.

And then it directly intersects the impact site where it crashed.

And it directly connects with the impact site,

and that's a little dicey to try to figure out where that is,

because if you're a tourist in Roswell and you want to find the site,

then that's four of them,

and somebody will be happy to take your money and drive you out to any of these places

that they might have put a plaque or that sort of thing.

I'm just going on the map, and I've noticed that it's closest to the Roswell Ranch site.

There's almost between the Roswell Ranch site and the regs that,

beginning Jim Regsdale, supposedly was camping and saw a craft impact fairly close to him.

And we plotted it on a map, and we went out to the site this last July 4th,

and I didn't find anything.

And of course, no one was supposed to find anything.

And then I think that's really the point of the whole crash itself.

I think that was what was embedded in it from the beginning was,

you know, I really do think something actually landed,

and it was recovered pretty thoroughly.

And it's because this was recorded,

because this came out to public consciousness,

that it's been able to adjust our paradigm of what we think

about the possibility of the existence of extraterrestrial life.

Right, yeah.

And if they have any sort of connection with us,

or they interact with us at all,

and it's kind of strange to me to think that,

okay, if this was an extraterrestrial event,

why wouldn't we look for the same signatures of extraterrestrial intelligence

that we were looking for with the SETI program?

Why do we rotate it to this idea of it was a disaster?

If it really was an alien craft,

we must have somehow perturbed its navigational apparatus,

and there's a couple of theories around that.

And it crashed, or maybe a thunderstorm was too great for it,

and it crashed, and so it's just an accident,

and it was happenstance, or it was just a lie,

and our government's covering up something else they were doing.

Well, the geometry that's involved is not something

that just happens.

You can't pull together all these numbers,

and this is my version of it.

You can't pull these numbers together

and come up with what it says in a consistent pattern.

What's actually possible with the numbers is you can actually make a chain

an actual mathematical equation

that will work both forward and backwards.

I'm going to get an example.

You can actually take the number of the latitude

of the Roger Cross site to say 33.3,

multiply that times pi,

and you'll get the longitude 104.

That works the reverse.

And if you take the number 1947,

and you multiply it times 33.3,

you end up with a really significant number.

You end up with 664.8.

Oh my goodness.

When I was talking about the procession of the equinox,

there's 6480 years if you would quarter up that duration.

In other words, every time you reach one of the cardinal points

of our movement through the ecliptic,

it'll take 6480 years.

If you, let's say you go back from,

okay, let's take 2012,

and go back 6480 years,

you'll end up in the realm of 4,400 B.C.,

which just so happens to be the birth of ancient history,

of civilization, of writing,

of city building and architecture,

which has sort of appeared out of nowhere.

You want to go back another 6480 years,

you end up at about 10,500 B.C.,

which is that mark between in geology,

the Plycycine age,

and the Holocine age, which we're living in now.

And in a paleontology, especially,

the difference between one age and the next in geologic layers,

is diodes, massive, global destruction of a flora and fauna.

And it's all recorded in this layer of earth

at the, the margin between the Plycycine and the Holocine.

That's two cycles of 6480 years.

And what seems to be the agency for the destruction

of all these things at the end of the Plycycine is water.

Even Darwin himself had said that the deposits he found in sea,

I think it was the Andean glaciers,

and some of the Siberian deposits there,

a matrix of twisted trees from tropical regions

and temperate regions, found with hippos and alligators

and muskocks and mammoths.

You know, we're talking about animals that have been swept

from the tropical regions through the temperate regions

and deposited at the poles of the earth,

and then frozen there.

There's a lot of information about that,

but that all happened at that margin between the Plycycine

and this two times 6480.

It just so happens that the sign of that actual point

is actually a sign that the ancients,

especially the occult ancients knew,

that pointed that out.

We could know that it was going to,

it'd be that margin where this epic would finally end

and a new one would begin.

And it's the end of a 6480 year duration.

That symbol is strangely enough a serpent with its tail

and its mouth.

Well, I've looked at it for a number of years

and I actually realized that they're not just drawing this

because it's a quaint symbol for,

let's say, time to continue,

but maybe you can point out that it feeds on itself,

so to speak, that sort of idea,

that the Jungian sort of usurption

of that alchemical symbol of what's called the Orabor,

a serpent with a tail-eating snake.

This is who we are.

Yeah.

The millennium.

Yeah.

The millennium itself, yeah.

This idea of time and how time works,

but the ancients were drawing a symbol of the Milky Way.

And if you look at the Milky Way,

and it's going to hard to do nowadays

with the light pollution in cities,

but if you get a chance to look at the Milky Way

and you look for a galactic center,

which was at a place where our ecliptic crosses,

the ecliptic,

we're all the plant seams to travel in the sun,

so you just travel that line crosses the Milky Way

at two places and neatly by sex the Milky Way.

But one of these places is perfectly in the center

of where the galaxy would be,

as you're looking kind of obliquely at the Milky Way galaxy,

you're seeing a line that is the galaxy on edge

and the center is a bulge.

And that's where the ecliptic of our orbit crosses

and all the orbits of the planets.

And you see this strange sight,

if you have a clear enough night,

of a giant serpent's head with a tail in its mouth.

And because that's what I believe they were alluding to.

And I have some historical document.

A lot of documents actually point at the same thing

and how long that actual duration was.

I started looking into how that actually works.

It's like a big cosmic clock.

It's something that you,

if you pay attention to, actually changes.

The Milky Way isn't always static in our sky.

It kind of undulates, moves around, you know,

because our Earth is rotating, of course.

But what happens is,

if you once a year,

and this has been happening for, as far as I know,

thousands and thousands of years,

the Sun will actually rise in the mouth,

or in the center of the ecliptic bulge,

or in the mouth of the serpent.

There's an ancient occult saying that says,

the man who can divide the orbit will have great power.

Well, this is pretty amazing,

because there's a biblical connection.

Did you know the name Leviathan?

Leviathan, actually, means divided serpent.

Actually means connected serpent.

Levi means connection, or connected.

And Tommy means a long sin, like snake.

Leviathan is connected serpent.

And part of the text that comes out of in Job,

one of the questions God asks Job is,

can you open the mouth of Leviathan?

Well, you know, allegorically,

if you look at it, how profound it is,

he says, also God says, you know,

he's the greatest creature there is.

You know, he's greater than anything on earth.

You know, there's nothing under heaven greater than him.

And you're thinking about that.

Well, that's kind of weird.

You know, because I know the perstangels,

and there's actually hierarchies there.

How can he be the greatest thing,

creature that he's ever created?

You know, how can he spit fire,

and how come he's impervious to any sort of weapon will,

if you're looking at the actual word Leviathan,

and understand that the ancients actually viewed

the Milky Way as a connected serpent,

then it starts to make more sense, least emolically.

And it also makes sense when you realize that

it was a huge component to explaining how the cycles of the earth

culminate.

And of course, God being in charge of the cycles of the earth

would understand what the symbols would mean.

And the big symbol is the sun rising

in the center of this snake eating its tail,

which is the Milky Way.

Every 6,480 years,

and the way you can actually gauge this is,

it's falling along the time of the year,

a day in the year,

that will also align with the cardinal points of the year,

say the solstice or an equinox.

There'll be one day out of any year

that you'll actually see the sun rise in the center of the galaxy.

But the real symbol, according to the ancients,

was when that had happened during a solstice or an equinox,

and you can count on 6,480 years existing

between each one of those movements.

So it'll take 6,480 years from the sun to rise in the mouth

of the orborus or the Milky Way on, say,

the weird solstice.

You have to wait for another 6,480 years

for it to actually rise in the spring equinox.

Okay.

And now,

because this is actually a movement that takes so slow,

I mean, 72 years from one degree of movement,

you'll be able to see this now during our winter solstice,

and it will be absolutely perfectly aligned

on the winter solstice of 2012 AD.

Now, we made a illusion to this in the conversation

with Patrick Heron last week,

that 2012 would be a significant year.

Now, is there a connection between the Roswell crash

that points to 2012 and this alignment of signs in the sky?

Oh, yeah.

Because, now, here's the real kicker.

If you go to a calculator for distance,

if you can plug in, I can say,

the latitude and longitude for a coordinate on this Earth.

And I'd say you want to measure how far it is

from the equator at 0 to 33 in a third north latitude,

or south latitude, doesn't matter.

Just 3.33 degrees in latitude,

which is where the Roswell crash occurred, okay?

You will get 2012.9 nautical miles.

Yeah.

Okay.

And when I say nautical miles,

that's probably something that a lot of people have problems

with the statute miles,

there's kilometers in nautical miles,

what's the difference?

Well, NASA uses nautical miles,

and anybody who's flying or navigating needs to use nautical miles

because it's not based on an arbitrary set of number of feet to a mile.

Nautical miles are based on a ratio of,

you have 360 degrees in a circle,

and you have 60 minutes in an hour with the time-space relationship.

And you'll have 21,600 nautical miles around the greatest circumference of the Earth.

Okay.

Why? Because 60 times 360 is 21,600, all right?

If you go to the moon,

you're going to have 21,600 nautical miles around it.

Okay.

All you're doing is timing how long an hour is,

and how many degrees are in a circle.

So this idea of navigating with a ratio between time and space

was something that was very ancient.

It's been around for a long time.

It's not dependent on somebody actually going out and measuring distances

of the Earth or the object you're measuring at the circle.

It's just time and space in a relationship.

And nautical miles are used then in space because

it doesn't matter how far away you are from the Earth,

it's still being the same relative nautical mile relationship on the ground

based on this measurement.

So you always know where you are in relationship to the Earth,

and that's what it's supposed to accomplish.

So if you're using nautical miles,

33.33 degrees north latitude,

the Roswell event occurred two thousand and twelve miles away

from zero from the equator.

Now, the other thing is,

the number I was saying to the symbol or the actual duration of the aeon,

which is quartering up of time of the whole procession of the equinox,

where our Earth is undergone cataclysmic cycle.

That is, if you divide 648.06480 by 19.47,

you'll get 33.28.

And that's kind of an interesting number because it's not exactly at 33 and the third,

and this gets really complicated.

And I think deliberately so because the n times are fairly complicated.

There aren't exactly just one event we're looking for.

I mean, you can see the theology of holiday would say.

Talking about the end of the world.

Well, as the Christian, the n times aren't the end of the world.

Right.

You know, there's a lot of things that are happening before Messiah comes back.

But after that, there's a millennium,

and I guess you could be a millennialist or a premonialist or whatever.

But there's a certain sequence of events that people are trying to come down

when they happen, where they happen in time.

And even in eschatology and prophecy for Christians, it's a little complicated.

So the math here can get really specific.

So what I actually found out here then is,

if you take that number, this is signature of the Aeon.

I guess it's called an Aeon, the actual length between each destructive epic on the Earth.

That's 6480.

And you just move its decimal place over just one to the left.

So now it's 648.0.

Divided by 19.47, which is at universal constant,

and you'll still get the latitude of the Rosalind Cross site.

With the deviation, now it's at 33.28.

Now, if you move the decimal place over two,

so that it's 64.80,

and then you add 19.47 to it.

So actually, it's the years of the Rosalind Cross.

And you add 64.80.

You end up in 2012.

So it happens to be the time where this alignment that I was talking about

with the R-Boris and the winder solstice occurs.

And it also is that number that is pure form, 33.33,

equals that number 2012.

In distance between, you know, on the Earth as a function of the nautical pile equation.

So you're seeing a repetition, you're seeing redundancy in this message.

That is more to that too, of course.

It's so plural, it's something that if you don't see the picture,

and you don't understand, say, maybe what procession is all about,

or that Pi really is a circular type of number,

and so on and so forth.

It ends up just looking like, I'm not.

That's a good way of putting it.

I mentioned this to my dad some weeks ago,

and dad is an engineer by trade.

And he tried to take it in, and then he just kind of shook his head,

and said, you know, you run enough numbers together,

and sooner or later you're just going to start seeing coincidences.

So I don't think he quite got it.

No, these are not coincidences.

They are not. You see a pattern over and over and over again,

no matter how you approach it, you're getting the same answers.

There's other things, too, that apart from just the Roswell event,

you'll see the number 2012 came up.

It was probably made most popular by some archaeologists

who were deciphering the Aztec in my encounter.

Right.

And that's pretty interesting because the Mexico City history,

and the actual history of the Aztecs,

has a incredible Martian signature over it.

And also, when you look at, you know, the 19.47,

and it's Martianness, too, at least in contemporary times,

where the work of Richard Holgland and others

have been pointing out that there are ostensibly structures

on a place called Sidonia that have this geometric relationship

that's recorded redundantly also.

You start seeing the pattern there again.

And the really fast example, I don't know, how much time I have,

but I might be able to hold this one out.

Don't worry about it.

In Mexico City.

It was actually a pretty recent history.

The whole idea of the Aztecs moving into that area

is not very clearly understood,

but it is understood that it was founded,

at least the founding city of, I think it's called,

Kenneth Sheetland, was founded in 1325 AD.

And apparently, where these Aztecs lived before this time

was around the southern part of, where Texas is now.

And one day, one of their prophets received a message

from their war, God, like Mars.

Only his name was Kuwait-Zilopakli.

And he, Zilopakli, told them, you need to move south.

You need to migrate south to the place I'll show you,

which is with, the symbol is Eagle,

who hasn't as tall as a serpent.

And you see this symbol, and it's person on a cactus,

that's where you're going to build your new city.

So they moved south until they got to the latitude of 19.47 degrees.

And they found this huge lake, Lake Texcoco,

which was basically a swamp with mosquitoes and everything.

And they built their city in the middle of this swamp,

which is a place you wouldn't think someone would migrate

for hundreds of miles to build a place to live in.

Like it's a better place or something.

No, symbolically, a symbolic place.

The place pointed out by their war god in 19.47.

And they already had existed to the north pyramids

that, when they actually encountered the Maya,

who lived there beforehand, said, had always existed there.

And the place for men become gods.

And that's where the pyramid of the moon and the pyramid of the sun is now.

Okay, okay.

You look on.

Anyway, so they build this big complex in Mexico City.

And that was in 1325.

Now, their calendar ends in 2012 in December.

Right.

On the solstice.

Right when this symbol, like I was saying,

happens in the winter solstice.

Amazing.

And if you're actually going to count the number of solar years

between the founding of Tenochilan, the Aztec capital,

and the end of their calendar,

there will be 687 years.

687 days is how long a Martian year is.

And if you look at one of the biggest UFO flaps in history,

which happened in 1991 in Mexico City.

Mexico City, right.

There are 666 years from the founding of their capital.

And what was really strange about this is the Mexicans themselves

were looking at this huge, UFO flap,

which is continuing to this day.

And saying, well, it's our sky gods,

and they're heralding the return of Ketzalcoatl,

the desert serpent, the one right heaven.

And they're counting down to 2012.

Then 1991 fighting, did that turn in September?

It was in, I think it was in August, but I could be wrong.

Well, the retail yes September is because September 11

of 1991 is when George Bush Sr.

announced the dawn of the new age.

It would make a lot of sense.

And because you're looking at the repeating motif of 2012,

a distance between in time from the founding of this Mexican

capital, what's really strange, too, is how big a deal

their calendar became in at least a couple of circles around.

You see on the web all the time,

you just punch in the year 2012,

the Aztec Mayan calendar will come up.

Sure.

And nobody really knows how it works.

It is pretty complicated.

In fact, the Aztec inherited the calendar from the Mayan.

And the Mayan had worked out the orbits of almost every planet

to an unbelievable accuracy,

and had managed to actually incorporate all these orbits into a calendar

that it worked basically like cogs in a wheel.

And as an explanation for it, you're looking at a calendar that's more accurate

than any of the western ones we've been using for hundreds of years.

No one can say, well, they must have had this really incredible

astronomical genius there,

beyond Galileo or Kepler or even Newton at the time.

No one says that, even though that's what you have to end up coming up with.

Sure.

And of course, the fact that they built pyramids that looked an awful lot

like the pyramids at Giza in Egypt,

and of course, the pyramids at Egypt, which were aligned perfectly

to magnetic north, south, east, and west,

and finished the blocks of stone,

within 10,000ths of an inch on each all six sides

and move them, you know, blocks that are bigger than any Earth-moving equipment today

can handle.

There are all kinds of anomalies that have been passed off to us as coincidences

in all of these structures and calendars and numerology

that's been handed down from years and years gone by.

And it's just totally ignored by the world of large.

And especially among the Christian communities,

you mentioned, David, because of the fear that we're treading into astrology,

which is something God is very clear that we stay away from.

But it is really significant that we try to get a handle on this

considered intelligence gathering on the enemy, if nothing else.

We'd like to keep on talking, but we're going a little long.

This has been a really fast hour for us.

Yeah, David, let's check.

You've got two minutes left.

There are listeners out there who've heard this.

They see that the signs are coming together for the end of the age.

What do you as a Christian say to them?

Well, I can understand why people would be afraid to look at certain things

that have significance in numerology or maybe in just basic astronomy

because they've been told, you know, these are pagan things

and the cult things and they're evil and that's right.

But they have to realize, too, that Satan doesn't invent anything.

He hasn't ever had an original idea.

He's only taking those things that exist as they are,

that are very important.

And he attacks the things that are most important because he's efficient.

You've heard that there's only one narrow path to salvation.

And that there are 101 million ways to try to save yourself

and think that you're on the right path.

The things that are most important to then Satan to distort

are the things that are true, the things that have the most impact and power.

The gospel obviously is number one.

And then also the idea of Armasai coming back again.

And there's a Christian you have to look at what the enemy's doing

because the end time has a component to it that focuses on Christianity.

Very precisely, and that's this idea that there's going to be a lie coming.

A delusion.

And if you're not well versed in what's going on

and especially the word itself and knowing it inside and out

and understanding that if someone throws something at you,

you know, it's not going to gait the facts of the Bible.

And if you leave out astronomy, that's in the Bible.

If you leave out numerics, that's in the Bible.

If you leave out all these things and it talks about time cycles in heaven,

that's in the Bible.

It's been stolen and you serve by Satan.

So you have to know that's there.

Otherwise, you know, the lie works.

And that's basically what my website's been about

and what this work's been about for the beginning.

And sometimes it's hard to actually keep that perspective,

at least in the articles I've written and the work I've done.

But that's what it's about.

It's about leading people back to the truth and preparing them for the end.

That's right.

Well, how can people get more information on the work that you've done?

What were your website?

And we didn't even mention your book on Sidonia and the monuments on Mars

and we'll have to have you back to talk about that.

But where would people go to get more information?

Well, you can go to my website and this is just kind of an extension of my website.

You'll have to kind of go through the bullets that are on the left

to actually get to the main page.

And it's watcherwebsite.com.

So on the World Wide Web, watcherwebsite.com.

And when you get there, go to some of the articles.

You'll end up with a list of the new things that are happening.

And so I guess it's the update page.

I have a book.

It's called Sidonia, The Secret Chronicles of Mars.

You can purchase it from that site.

And we are going to get some copies of some DVDs of some of the lectures that I've done recently

to talk about these things and more.

And they're really image-laden.

There's a lot to see.

And it helps in understanding because these concepts are so highly visually oriented.

They're really necessary.

But there's a lot on the site.

It's kind of a compendium for research in this sort of area.

And there's like-minded connections and unlike-minded connections.

So you can get a perspective of what's going on in history.

And as far as connecting there, then I think that's probably the easiest way to go.

Well, David, God bless you.

You have put in so much work and we thank you for it.

We have just scratched the surface with David Flynn, but we guarantee you folks

we'll have him back again.

I have him talk about that new book.

This I don't need a book.

Yeah. And we will put links to the article from Raider's News Update,

which will give you all of the calculations showing the occult significance of the time

and place of the 1947 Roswell crash.

In other words, he shows his work.

You don't just get the answer.

You get to see the work to make sure they do it properly.

We'll put a link to that in the show notes.

At our website, peering into darkness.com slash radio.

And again, David, thank you for your time.

And we look forward to talking with you more again.

And perhaps taking up Patty Heron on his offer to visit him someday

and have a couple of paints again as well.

Absolutely.

That's a great idea.

It's been my pleasure.

Thank you very much.

Thank you very much, David.

God bless.

Oh my gosh.

My head exploded three times.

Yeah.

It's a...

Well, again, when I was in junior high, my geometry teacher never explained

that it would really be useful someday out in the real world.

No brain, head, tetrahedron.

Oh, it's all too much.

We've got some guests coming up in the weeks to come that will also expand your mind.

We will be talking next week with William H. Kennedy,

the author of a book called Lucifer's Lodge,

about satanic ritual abuse inside the Roman Catholic Church,

as well as a new book he's got coming out about satanic crimes

and its threat to society at large in the new millennium.

Oh, I can't wait for that.

Yeah, it'll be a really dark, dark show.

So pay attention for that.

Also, Dr. Henry Nyman is coming back in a couple of weeks.

Well, you know the tie time we had Henry back

because there are so many things happening sadly over in the Vietnam

and China, now in Russia, Thailand.

I mean, folks, the flu is really taking hold over there.

Yeah.

We've got to figure out what's going on in Henry Nyman.

He's the man to ask.

Yeah.

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