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All right, everybody. Welcome to our final hour together on this Thursday,

the 19th of March, 2026. And it's one of those nine o'clock hours.

They're going to crop up like clockwork as we work our way through our food for the poor

campaign, which has come and gone. But it has left us in the wake of some people with

particular generosity who have ponied up sufficiently to come hang out with us.

Some of them, you will know, the author,

Army helicopter pilot Colin Kahoon, he's still coming up. We've had other, we called them repeat

offenders. We have other folks in who you've enjoyed meeting and enjoyed seeing.

But I just met this guy just a few minutes ago and this is absolutely great. We look, we're

going to learn about the insurance industry a little bit. We're going to talk some AI.

He has apparently read Project Hail Mary. So we're going to dork out about the movie.

Rick Hittel of Fairview is here. What a joy to meet you, sir. Thank you so much for being here.

Oh my goodness, Mark. The pleasure is all mine. It's not often you get to meet your heroes.

Well,

Ray that in a little bit. Let's let's talk about our shared history for a second. And for those

that don't know, food for the poor are food for the poor campaign is something we do every year.

And it's you, the premise is usually for $150. You can feed two kids for a year.

And then we ramp it up somewhat. And if you're willing to give us like this month money,

a mic and I we were doing a listener lunch that we filled up a table for. But then

Ronda and I were talking some years ago and said, look, why don't we,

for X amount, let people come in and kind of co-host where we're just here. We're just talking

about whatever they want, whatever I want. Just slinging, you know, hot opinions back and forth

talking about life. And it's been some of my absolute favorite things to do. So the first thing

I want to thank you for is you fed a lot of kids just to get into this room and brought a lot of

water to a lot of parched villages. And I talk a lot about having gone to Haiti and Guatemala

and seen the kind of things that, that kindness like yours has done. So I'm enormously grateful.

My pleasure. I've actually seen it firsthand. I've done a mission trip to Chiapas, Mexico.

And these folks are, we did a church building mission was through Christian hands in action.

And these folks are living on mountain sides in dirt,

floored lean twos made of discarded pallets. And when you're there for, we were there for almost a

week, came back and just felt such a guilt for the way that we live here, compared to way those

people are living there. And even though they were living in this abject poverty, they were so happy.

And we also had a chance to go up and witness up and down the mountain. And man, the Lord just had

the low hanging fruit just ready for us to just barely rattle the branch. And these people

are so hungry for the gospel. So it's, it's, it's amazing. So when, when I saw,

I actually read up on food for the poor based on your recommendation, I think you and Mark

Gallagher had probably researched it quite more than I did. It's, it's a very worthy, very,

very worthy charity. And gosh, they're very efficient with the funds and would encourage your

listeners obviously to donate what they can. Thank you. So very, very much for that. And it's funny,

I've, I've had some conversations and I bet you have too with people who have been on trips

like that and done that mission thing to these incredibly impoverished places. And I always feel

weird phrasing it this way. I don't say that America doesn't know what poverty is because,

of course, we do. And we have poverty in America. But the poor in America have microwaves.

The poor in America, you know, have cell phones and often on their own cards. There is nothing

like what you've seen on those hillsides in Mexico. And so what is, what is it? Because I saw

the same thing. The stories are all the same. There's a common thread that runs through them

that these are people is, is it faith? Is it hope? Is it the fact that you're there? And then

there seems to be some type of help on the way? Is, is, is it God? Is it human contact that enables

in the most dire of economic circumstances to still have a certain joy about their daily life?

I have no idea. I think, I think that we here take it for granted. We, we take everything for

granted. We take everything from electricity to cell phones to, to the internet for granted.

They have none of that. So, so, you know, you're, you're most successful people in this country

are immigrants who came in and saw the opportunities where all we see is really entitlements.

So, no idea, no idea. I was just, I was just so overwhelmed by the happiness, the welcoming,

they would, they would lay out food that they probably couldn't afford to us as guests,

as in their homes. And no idea. And I think, you know, of course, we stood out a little bit on

the mountain too. You know, so, so, I think they were a little bit impressed that Americans would,

would, would leave what we have here. And I'm sure they know what we have here to come and, and,

and visit them and to, to physically build a church. And we were mixing, had mixing concrete on the,

on the floor. And, and, you know, painting the walls and putting tin roofs on them, building

benches. And then leaving. And, and, and, and, and it was just incredible. I, the manager,

it just pours off. You know, is this the same as or similar to because there's something else in

the charitable world? What is Camp Esperanza? Oh, Camp Esperanza. Oh, man, I'm going to try to get

through this without crying. Camp Esperanza is a, it's a US-based here. It actually, it's,

it's a camp that's in Meridian, Texas. Esperanza stands for Hope. And I, I was turned on to Camp

Esperanza by my lovely wife, Carolyn, who is the president of the, the board, the Bridewell

Foundation, which is the endowment for the camp. The camp is, is associated with children's

hospitals on College Award. So these are kids, age six to sixteen, that either are currently

treating for cancer or are in remission for cancer. And these kids are, especially the ones that,

that are in the midst of the battle, are, are bald. Their, their, their bodies are ravaged by,

by cancer, a lot of them are in wheelchairs. And can you can imagine how they're treated in

their schools? So this is an opportunity for 140 of them through children's hospital

to be bust to Meridian, Texas and, and Camp Esperanza. Camp John Mark is, is, is the, the facility.

Camp Esperanza is one of the camps. Camp John Mark is a, a camp that, that has a series of

camps for burn victims, muscular dystrophy, muscular sclerosis. So we have a week, we call Camp

Esperanza for the kids with cancer. So these kids get off these buses, usually during the

headlights, a lot of them cry in because, I mean, these kids are so protected by their families,

by their moms, for this dread disease that they're having to treat. And a lot of them are living in,

in the hospital for a month or a month. So we're putting them all together with kids that are

just like them. And they talk to each other, like little doctors talking about their chemo

treatments. Dr. Tamer Sloan from, from children's hospital attends with, with another resident

physician and a bunch of nurses and child life counselors. So they're actually getting their chemo

treatments at camp. They've all got, they've got ports. And, and what, what we do though when we,

when they come off the bus is we cut the bubble wrap off of them. And when we put them in cabins,

seven cab, seven kids per cabin with three counselors that are, this is kind of another aside,

30% of our counselors are former campers that just wanted to come in and give back. But we'll put

them in boats. We'll, we'll put them in a swimming pool. We'll put them on zip line giant swings.

Archery, my wife Carolyn owns, runs the, the art barn. So they do all kinds of art projects.

So for a week, they just get to be kids. And, and for, for those listeners that, that would be

willing, if you could just log, log in to camp Esperanza dot org. Um, and, and just have a look

at the camp. And if, if the Lord leads you, please donate. Hey, if, with, with what you have done

to us, the least I could do is, is pay it forward in this way. Camp Esperanza ESPE are ANZA.

I think I can grab that right. Camp Esperanza dot org. And I bet you, you used a, a poetic

reference here. They cut the bubble wrap off as it can be a sheltered life. Oh, you'd be a,

a rarefied lonely life and, and, and, and all of a sudden, and the next day you're on a zip line,

I bet some folks are a little tentative at first, but then it doesn't take long for them to take to,

they take to normalcy like a duck to water. They do. They do. And to see that the relationships

that they join, that they, that they form, they're crying when they get off the bus and they're

crying when they get on the bus. And they're crying on when they get on the bus because they really

don't want to leave. But it is, it is a week of normalcy. It is just a fantastic, fantastic camp.

My wife has been involved with, uh, camp Esperanza for 27 years. Way before I met her.

Where'd you run it? Where'd you run into her?

Yeah.

Match.com.

Get out. Okay. Okay. Hang on. Hang on. It's not just for the 20 something.

It seems like a good pause point. Rick Hiddler is here at your wife is Carolyn, right?

Carolyn for six years. I sense a story. And we're also going to learn what Rick does for a living

in industry we interface with and talk about from time to time. Rick is here because of the food

for the poor donation. Camp Esperanza.org chair. Just charity bursting out all over.

Mark Davis, 660 AM. That's a Rick and I'll be back in just a moment.

So as you've heard, if you come in and do this,

you get to pick the tunes. And our guest Ray Kiddler, our guest co-host.

Who might strike you as being, oh, shall we say as white as I am?

That has brought some wonderful 80s and 70s funk and soul. That was the greatness of lakeside

and fantastic voyage, which you have chosen. Why? Oh, because you can take the old man out of

college music, but you can't take the college music out of the old man. And that's one of my

things. Where did you go? Where were you? I went to school at MTSU in Middle Tennessee State

class of 1984. You've heard of it. Very good. They are the home of the, what are they?

We're a very, very good friend of mine. John Lenz is an MTSU alumnus.

No way. So where'd you grow up? I mean, what put you there?

Well, I grew up in in Myland, Tennessee, which is West Tennessee.

You know what that is too? Well, I was in Memphis for five years.

Okay. Okay. So the thing about Tennessee, the people don't know, you'll run across somebody,

somebody be from Memphis, somebody be from Knoxville, like that's the same.

That's a long video. Memphis has way more to do with St. Louis, New Orleans, river culture.

Right. You know, the East Tennessee and West Tennessee

way different right there in the middle. Middle Tennessee, your Nashville, your Frank,

you know, all of those places. Absolutely right. So what would got you out here?

Oh gosh. I started as a state farm agent in Kingsport, Tennessee, and I was there for five years,

and decided that the market was just not as good as it is in Dallas and asked for a lateral

move from Kingsport to Dallas. It was granted. This was back in 2000 and have been here ever since.

Bristol Kingsport Johnson City. Yep. The Tri-City.

Yeah. That's it. So good. You are an encyclopedia.

No, no. Okay. Yes. But no, here's the deal there. My very first radio gig, 1979.

I go to Charleston, West Virginia, and it's owned by a company called Bristol Broadcasting.

Okay. And where a horse rancher guy who had a lot of money,

wanted to buy some radio stations, named Pete Nininger, had stations in Bristol,

Kingsport, Johnson City. And so that's where the headquarters was, the first radio group that I

ever, ever worked for. And then of course, cut to a few years later, I'm back in Tennessee,

doing shows at Memphis. So there's just a then diagram of similarity. Just show me anybody,

and I'll find something I've had in California. So when did you, so you've worked for state farm

for how long? Oh gosh. Since 1983. Got you. Don't even want to do that math. I've been a state farm

agent for 30 years. What was your degree in? Political science and pre-law. And then I take

and then I take the LSAT, decided I maybe I should sell insurance. Okay. Was it hard?

Yes. LSAT, LSAT was very hard. Does it make it? It's kind of funny. Everybody slaps lawyers

around until they need one. Right. Exactly. And I've often, and I work for a law firm for four

years in DC working away through college. And it was Siddly and Austin, the Washington office

of the firm in Chicago, where Michelle and Barack Obama met some years later. Okay. But I had people

tell me because I was around these law students all the time. And I'm sitting there getting my

little journalism degree at the University of Maryland. And I'm a, these people are Georgetown

law, George Washington University law, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, Howard, all these DC

area colleges. And they said about law school. They said that wasn't so much that the work was

inherently bone crushingly difficult. There was just more of it than any human being should ever

be able to do. More things to remember, more hoops to jump through, more things to burn into your

brain. And I just kind of took that tart. So how does one. So you said, let's do insurance.

What was first gig? What were you doing? Well, my first gig was with in operations. I started

out in, in Bloomington, Illinois, which is their mothership. And they sent me out to West Lake

Village to do some implementation stuff. And we, I got married, had a kid, didn't want to live in

Los Angeles. Not a good place to raise a family in my opinion. So lateral to Tennessee, where I later

started an agency. So I've had an agency here in the Dallas area. It's up actually up in Frisco.

What's it called? It's Rick Hittle State Farm Insurance Agency. There you go. HITT LLHL.

HITT LLHL. Yeah, like little with an H. Rick Hittle.net. If I can plug my business,

of course, dude, it's your time, you can do it if you want. Right. But what I want right now for

the next two, two minutes, and we'll go to the bottom, we'll come back, talk a little more

insurance and some stuff in the news and some things that Rick has brought up. Yeah, some AI

interests and might be headed to the same movie. I'm headed to him. But so, you've been married

to Carolin for six years, a hiccup of time. And yet that recently back, it was a match.com.

How does that come back to this? How does that, oh, you know, how does that even,

or I mean, I know what it is, but only from afar and not as a practitioner. So what do you do?

I mean, is there a segment for people who aren't 25? There is. They're actually websites for

55 plus. What if people have cute names like your time? You're right. Like before you die.

It's like, wait a minute, what? Come on. There are people in their 50s, 60s, whatever. So,

so how do you, how do you dive into this pool? Well, you know, I've been married for a very

long time. So I've been out of the dating world for quite a long time and thought, okay, what's

the best way, you know, and, uh, so I logged into, to, to this website and, and a couple others,

but this one primarily. And, uh, my, my wife, Carolyn Campbell, um, reached out to me. She liked

a picture. Uh, I was, I was sitting on a motorcycle. I'm a motorcycle enthusiast. Uh, uh,

the hookah morn sign is an orange bike in Carolyn. There is no bigger fan. You have a motorcycle

in hookah morns. I will date you. You're, you're just, this is mass appeal stuff. You're a genius.

So, so anyway, for, for my hook, I had a picture of hookah morns on a, on a burn orange,

Harley Davidson and, uh, Carolyn, Carolyn did nothing, you know, more, uh, you know, aggressive

than give me a thumbs up or a like or whatever it was. So then, of course, you want to look,

look at her and Carolyn's just gorgeous and, uh, and big UT fan. There is no bigger UT fan.

My son Brian actually ended up going to UT as well. Uh, I've got, I wasn't, I'm an adopted UT

fan. We've got a, we got a flag flying in our house and then I've got the hookah morns on

every vehicle I've got. So, so anyway, Carolyn reached out to me and, uh, and we, we met at a

Mexican restaurant on a Monday night because she didn't want to waste a weekend.

Oh, no. So how long? So it, it's got to be the weirdest thing in the world. W, was she the first

person you met off match? Oh gosh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, there was,

there was, there was something that did not go out. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's the way it's done now. Yeah. It's, it's kind of like I say, it's like shopping for

a used car, you look for a year make model,

modest style mileage, you know,

and then you plug all that information in

and it just spits out some options.

So anyway, I was blessed, and I think, you know,

God can use a webs, you know,

I'm an internet dating service,

I'll put these things over.

But Carolyn is a soulmate of mine.

And I was so happy she gave me the thumbs up

and we decided to try it out.

We did it a couple of years.

We actually got married during COVID

on August the 8th of 2020.

And where?

Well, we first, you know,

and how many people could come?

Well, actually quite a few

because people were dying to get out.

I'll bet so.

Yeah, so United Methodist Church in park cities.

We got married there and then ended up

having our reception at the Petroleum Club,

which is in the Chase Building,

overlooking the city.

It was just this, we were in the Sky Lobby

and people were just so glad to get out

and everybody had the masks on and the church.

We had to sit every other pew.

But, you know what?

It was love.

You know, hey, this and those were the trappings

of the moment.

It was a blast.

Carolyn was there.

God was there.

Your life began there and it's a story.

You'll be able to tell forever.

Just a blast.

Thank you for sharing that with us.

That's I'm so glad I asked.

See, no zinus pays up.

Rick Hitler and I back in a moment.

We'll talk.

I gotta know just the insurance world.

I have questions.

And we'll also talk about some stuff in the news

and things going on.

So Rick and I are back.

Our food for the poor co-host.

It is 931 Mary Roses in the newsroom.

Welcome to two white guys spinning 70s funk tunes.

Mark Davis, Rick Hitler with you in the moment.

Hey everybody.

Rick is a state farm guy, man of faith.

Preston Wood.

Preston Wood Baptist, Eric Raiden, that member.

That of course was parliaments and the funk and Alex and

atomic dog.

We're going to finish up with we're going to finish up with a

banger too when we're done here in a little bit.

Rick Hitler's here doing the food for the poor co-hosting thing.

And we're just so grateful for for his generosity.

So how long have you been going to Jack Graham's house there?

Oh my goodness.

So the Preston, the Baptist dome we told it.

It's great.

So I moved here in 2020 and started going in 2020.

The reason I went, my folks went shout out to mom and dad,

by the way.

And Zigg Ziggler used to have a class there.

And Zigg Ziggler was a huge fan of mine.

I'm sure your listeners probably know who he is.

When you think of motivational speakers, it can make your brain

like that.

He was like, yeah, yeah, but he was just the me.

He was the OG.

He was the master.

It was the master.

He was the goat.

And so he had God sales meeting.

He calls the encourages class.

There's a little class with about 400 people that would come

and talk and then listen to him.

So obviously Zigg passed after, after some time.

But I joined the, the Preston would choir, by the way.

So I've been, Preston would choir member for, for almost that long.

And then I, we've been in this room at the same time.

Guess where?

Guess why?

Three or five times?

Gift of Christmas.

Yeah.

Oh my, you guys can't stand in the back of the stage and sing.

As this unbelievable production plays out in front of you,

it's, it's the dog on his thing of the, I think even Gallagher

would agree.

It's just about Broadway.

Okay.

I'm, I'm, I'm going to, I'm going to differ with you.

Okay.

It's better.

Better.

I mean, let's go nuts.

Broadway is great.

There are, there are things I've seen on Broadway that were lovely,

that were fine, that didn't have the precision, the practice,

the execution, the commitment, the skill, the vocal skill,

a, just you guys, but just gift of Christmas and boy, get, get,

get the app because those tickets go in sale around Halloween or something.

Well, they go, yeah, and they go fast.

They go fast.

70,000 tickets we sold last year.

How many of y'all, how many of y'all are in the choir?

Well, the choir is about 450 people, but, but the, the cast and crew is,

oh, between 800 and 1,000 and, and, and including the orchestra,

the orchestra is spectacular.

I know.

It's live.

We're not running a voice track group.

No, it's, it's all live.

We start, we start singing Christmas music in August, which is weird.

It's like being at home deep up.

Not deep up.

Hobby Lobby.

Home deep home.

But yeah, it's, it's, it's a wonderful, wonderful thing.

And I would, I would encourage your, your listeners, if you've never been to

gift of Christmas.

Actually, if you want to see a sample of it, go to YouTube and enter, do a search

for Prestonwood Gift of Christmas.

And if you really want to be geeked out, do Prestonwood Gift of Christmas,

a little drummer boy.

Remember the little drummer boy.

That's where the guys are hoisted.

They fly in the drummers and then lasers and all, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But you know why we do it, Mark?

We, we don't do it for the show.

We, we do it for the outreach because people will come and see a play like that that are

un-churched that, that, that probably don't know Christ as their, as their savior.

So at the end, every time, Jack or one of our associate pastors will come out and do an

invitation, which is kind of weird for a play like that.

But we had officially 973 first-time professions of Christ.

Those were official, but I would say there were probably thousands more that didn't, didn't

stop by the booth on the way out to get a free Bible and, and some counseling.

But then, then, then there's also a re-dedication opportunity and everyone in the audience, if

they want to re-dedicate or first-time dedicate, holds up their phone light, which is kind of

cool because the room is pitch dark.

And it's like a, it's, it's like a Milky Way constellation of, of phone lights out there

that are people that are standing back up, you know, for their faith or standing up for

the first time for their faith.

And that's why we do it.

If there was one person that, that, that, that decided to dedicate their life to Christ

because of that show, it would have all been worth it.

Pre-sicely.

All been worth it.

So 30 years of selling insurance.

What's different?

What's different about doing it now versus when you started out 30 years ago?

Oh gosh, it's incredibly different.

30 years ago.

What kind of policies?

What kind of you're doing?

Well, I'm staying from home auto, home auto life insurance primarily, financial services.

And it's, it's different now in that, you know, we don't have a lot of person-to-person

handshake, you know, belly-to-belly kind of thing.

Did COVID do that?

No.

No, it was really the internet did that.

Yeah.

And when I first started my agency back in 1996, I was kind of concerned about, can the

internet replace me?

Answer is no.

It's a fairly complex product.

They need, you need counseling and we will sit down with customers and, and, and not

just, just, order take, you know, which, which, you know, we would do if they insisted,

but give them some counseling on coverage that they need because at claim time, you certainly

don't want there to be a gap or some sort of a, a, a, a coverage that you needed that

you needed to claim that you didn't have.

So it's, it's something that really isn't good online self-service.

There are some companies that, that, that will sell self-service where you'll never

speak to the same person twice.

I've got a fantastic staff.

Our clients know us.

We know them.

Sometimes we know their dogs and aims and we've been a lot of houses, a lot of their houses.

And, anyway, I think people still appreciate the face to face, but the market has changed

in that a lot of, especially the younger generations, prefer to do it over the internet

or over the phone.

So, yeah, that's, that's how it's changed.

And that is the Rick Hittel Agency, H-I-T-T-L-E, and speaking of shout outs, tell me about

the kiddos.

The grown kiddos.

I've, I've got Katie, who is my oldest, and I'm, she's listening because she just texted

me that I was, I was doing okay.

She is Katie.

You're dead.

It's got talent.

Dad's got talent.

She's, she's in Bishop Arts.

She's a serial entrepreneur.

Cool neighborhood.

She's involved in a couple of restaurants about to be involved in a third.

She owns a floral shop and she's going to get being, be getting married pretty soon.

Whoa, got it.

This tremendous.

Wow, congratulations.

Congratulations.

I love the guy.

Do you love the, do you approve of the guy?

We do.

And you can't you tell me if you didn't.

No, I would absolutely.

Bradford.

I love you, brother.

I do.

I can't wait.

I love the way he treats my daughter.

That's the measure.

That is the measure.

That is the measure.

Treat my daughter well.

I will love you.

Yeah, mistreat her.

I will kill you.

I will kill you.

There you go.

Congratulations.

My son, my son Brian lives in, in Manhattan.

Damn, man.

Uh, he's 30 years old.

He should be listening to you.

In financial services.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I love it.

He's just loving it.

He's just loving it.

I, you know, he's a big city guy.

He started.

He started in DC.

And that apparently wasn't big enough for him.

So it's not in the middle of the Manhattan.

What's this little thing?

And he, he, uh, he's a walking encyclopedia of, of, of architecture.

He's a big fan.

And I think that's what really falls into the big city.

Yeah.

And, uh, he loves the culture.

He loves the sports.

He's just, uh, I'm just so proud of him.

I love you guys.

Just shout out to both, uh, Katie and, and Brian.

Good kids don't happen by accident.

Well, yeah.

I think, I think parents take too much credit for good kids and too much blame for, for

kids.

Oh, whoa.

There's a book title in there.

Well, that's very good.

There is, there is.

But, uh, anyway, it's, it's, it's a, it's a blessing.

So you're doing insurance.

And you said the internet, you wondered, could this replace me?

Let's, let's talk about something that may replace both you and me, uh, kidding, sort

of, like every other human being who's read an article about anything.

You said you wanted to talk a little bit about, about concerns about thoughts about the

wonderment over AI.

Mm hmm.

Yeah.

Um, it scares me to death and, you know, I, I know that, that, that there's a lot of excitement

about it.

How it's going to, to, to make, replace a lot of workers.

Of course, that's not very exciting because what are they going to do?

Yeah.

But, but what, what really scares me is the power that it holds in its infancy and it's

just getting started.

And we've got all these major, major players pouring billions of dollars into, to, to,

to their, their models.

And, and it seems to me that we're not, we're not setting up safeguards.

I mean, it's just like full speed ahead, dang the torpedoes.

Um, and, and if you, if you read up, um, on, andthropics, um, clawed for opus, and you,

I'm sure that you did.

And clawed is like grog like jet GPT and it's one that had a tenuous relationship with

the American government.

Right.

Right.

So, so, so they, they, they feed this fictitious company into this software.

And the fictitious company, um, the, the, the, the, the, the, they also feed in some fictitious

emails that are in between, in between, um, employees of the company.

I know you're going.

And, and one of, and one of those emails indicated that one of the employees was having

an affair with the other one.

So then there is a threat by one of these employees to shut the, the AI down.

Yep.

And what did AI do?

It defended itself.

It defended itself.

And it threatened to blackmail the, the person, the people that were having an affair

as, as, as a defensive mechanism to keep it from shutting down.

Now, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, you don't want to overreact, but you don't want to

underreact either.

But, but we've all seen Terminator, too, and Skynet became self-aware, right?

Yes.

And, and, and it's as old as Isaac Asimov, I robot the notion with the robot code was the,

the robots could never do anything to harm you.

They can only do things to help you.

What, what if the robots think that the most helpful thing they can do is take over our

lives?

We don't make sense.

We're nothing but consumers.

And we're hurting the environment and, and, and we're, we're hindering their progress.

And, you know, and then, and then you see this beautiful drone, drone display over Dallas

for the fourth of July.

And how they're, what's what's your name with the sky elements, dog honest company, bazillion

drones.

That's three dimensional.

Three dimensional moving, moving, unbelievably, and fireworks may go the way of the dinosaur

because you got this now.

Right.

Go ahead.

Well, what if, what if, what if AI commands an army of drones that, that have, that have,

you know, charges on them, like, like, like, show you a three dimensional statue of

Liberty, can destroy your soul.

A whole day.

Right.

You know, so maybe I'm being alarmist.

No, no, no, no.

The only spectrum between wonderment and optimism and pessimism and ruin.

That it's all, it's all, I'd say the first thing that occurs to me.

If you think of wonderful incredible technology that we probably didn't think enough about

what its dark side could be, this bad boy right here.

the, the, the, the, the smartphone itself, thank God for this thing.

My world is in here.

Right.

But it is also destroying fit.

You ever been to a restaurant, seen a family of sex and not talking to each other?

No, they're, they're all looking at their phones and their devices.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's, it's scary.

Now, now, I think that they're making some progress now by taking the phones away from

the kids in school.

Amen.

Um, but, but back to AI in school, if, if, if you're a kid that needs a $10,000, $10,000

word essay, yeah, I know, uh, it is, have you ever, have you ever used chat GPT?

Of course.

It's, it's a beautiful piece of work.

It can, it can write sometimes it's still to, but it's better than the average 10th grader.

Yeah.

And, and, and can a teacher really detect what's their work and what's not?

Yeah.

When you, you used to cut and paste stuff, we, when you used to copy from a book, you

used, and everybody would know all the books, you'd be, you're cheating used to be obvious.

When AI does it for you, it's not so obvious.

Right.

Not obvious at all.

Right.

Right.

So, so how lazy is it going to make our kids?

It is.

Yep.

Well, prepare, are they going to be for society when they don't have chat GPT to, to bail

them out?

It, it, it, it, I don't know, AI just scares the heck out of it.

Well, let's cheer people up on the way out and let's take our final pause.

We got a great final tune and Rick and I are going to, going to, going to leave you to

the rest of your day.

He's been doing the coasting thing instantly takes his place as one of our favorites.

The guys got material.

They did, did, did the time go quickly?

It did.

Told you.

Oh my goodness.

That was a quick 50 minute.

You were so minutes to fill when we come back.

The greatness of jazz from brick, it's the Rick Hettle playlist.

I would expect nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing.

So this was stuff under the mirror ball of the dance floor.

What were the, what were the hotspots in middle Tennessee State University?

Well, it was actually a, a pretty guy.

Yeah.

And this was the music we played at our, at our, at our, at our, there you go.

There you go.

There you go.

Big, as hazing a big deal there.

Oh, it was.

Yeah.

They strappy to a tree.

Yeah.

They drink bottle of gin or something.

Not anymore.

Not anymore.

60 seconds.

Take us out.

It's been such a joy to have you.

Oh, man.

I got a 60 second window here.

I, I really would like to take this opportunity, Mark, to, to thank you for having me first

off.

And, and just, just know that you've been a part of my drive to work for 20 years.

And, um, I, I've, I've always loved listening to you.

You let in and then, then, then, rub, great, LaRussellimball would take over this back in

the BAP days.

Yeah.

And, uh, I, I just absolutely love your logic.

I love your lord.

I love, I love the fact that you, you pray us in every morning, um, and, and you've been

a big part.

You're, you're my maha markee.

And, uh, the, the fact that, that, that, that, and, and one last question.

If we shall have a second, what's it like when you, when you get called from, from the

LaRussellimball show to guest host, it's, it was just, when that started, it was an amazing

thing.

Grateful, every day that happened.

And, great, grateful to you.

Thank you, Mark.

Thank you, Mark.

For Ronda, for Matt, for Mary Rose.

We appreciate it.

660 AM answer.

Thank you, Rick Hittle.

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