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War of Words.

A closed door meeting about the US battle plan in Iran.

These Democrats on high alert.

It is so much worse than you thought.

You are right to be worried.

Trump administration has no plan.

As Trump administration officials take fire for their spin on media reports

of six US soldiers killed in combat.

The press only wants to make the president look bad.

Six days into the strikes.

Are they still at a loss for words about America's strategy in Iran?

We're not at war right now.

Have to go back and look at the war.

Plus, how politics got personal when the Homeland Security Secretary was in the hot seat.

Over her relationship with a top Trump insider and DHS advisor.

Have you had sexual relations with Cory Lewandowski?

Mr. Chairman, I am shocked that we're going down

and peddling tabloid garbage in this committee today.

Then, Daniel Redcliffe talks about getting into funny business

on the rise and fall of Reggie Dinkins

and taking center stage for every brilliant thing on Broadway

and special guest co-host Elizabeth Asselberg.

Here, come hop topics with whooping.

Sarah Haynes.

Joy Beha in Navarro.

Sunny Hauston.

And Elizabeth Eric Griffin.

Now, let's get things started.

I don't know.

It's so...

It's so like...

I don't know. It feels like deja vu.

I feel we've met before.

I don't know why, but you all seem very familiar.

I don't know why.

But Elizabeth is back with us today.

Hey, Elizabeth.

Good.

I really enjoyed your company this week.

And it's only Thursday.

And there's more to come.

But I've truly enjoyed it.

It's been a blessing.

So thank you.

She loved it so much.

She brought our husband today.

There he is.

Yeah, yeah.

So...

I think...

I looked over.

I need some friends back.

Good to see you.

Good to see you.

Not that man.

And my sister-in-law is right beside him.

Oh, wow.

Hey.

Who was that?

This sister-in-law.

You wrote some house about clunge and some friends as well.

Some birthdays.

Some Nashville.

Y'all.

Hey, Dorothy and Jerry.

I love you.

This is the fun part.

She brought a whole fan club here.

Yeah.

No, actually, it's my security detail.

So...

We just go there.

But it has really been a blessing.

Thank you so much.

Well, it's great to see you.

Yeah.

It is great to see you.

We've had some good debate.

Yeah.

Oh, wait.

It's just going to get more fun.

Because we're six days into the US strikes in Iran.

The Senate failed to pass a war-powers resolution that would limit, you know,

whose authority on military action.

The administration officials also took heat yesterday for their comments on the six US soldiers killed in combat.

Let's take a look.

We've taken control of Iran's airspace and waterways without boots on the ground.

We control their fate.

But when a few drones get through or tragic things happen, it's front page news.

I get it.

The press only wants to make the president look bad, but try for once to report the reality.

Is it the position of this administration that the press should not prominently cover the deaths of US service members?

No.

It's the position of this administration that the press in this room and the press across the country

should accurately report on the success of Operation Epic Fury.

So, what's the next step was complaining that it was front page news about these six service members who were killed?

You and your network know that you take every single thing this administration says

and tries to use it to make the president look bad.

That is an objectable fact.

I don't think covering truth does is trying to make the president look bad.

If you're trying to...

Well, so here's my question.

Every president who has had a war going on has always allowed the press to talk about the deaths.

They always keep it front incentive.

They're always a part of it because it's not just troops.

These are American people.

These are American soldiers who gave their life.

So, this isn't about the president.

This is about we're losing lives and that's what they're reporting.

And sometimes I think, you know, it ain't all about you.

It ain't all about you.

Take this.

This is a real thing because, you know, this whole thing and I know a lot of people don't agree.

But what's frustrated me more than anything is, you know, usually when there is a plan,

when they go out and they know they're going to do something, they're going to bomb somebody.

They've talked to the American embassies to find out how many people are here, how many people are here.

So they have some sort of plan to get them out.

Is it always smooth?

No.

But there is some sort of plan to get them out.

And the original, I'm sorry, direct.

The original response to Americans, who were there on vacation,

was you can't come to us to get you out.

They have amended it.

But this is the American embassy.

If I can't go to the embassy because a war is broken out.

Who do you go to?

I'm just frustrated by the whole thing.

I think war can be frustrating and I think it can be scary and I think attacks can be scary.

When I think about it, I know Secretary Vorpeag said well enough to know that he's heartbroken over the deaths.

And he through his service, multiple deployments in Guantanamo Bay, Iraq and Afghanistan,

understands probably more than most what it's like to lose a brother in war or a sister in war.

The sacrifice that comes with war.

And he will, in fact, be the one who will receive the bodies of the fallen when they come home and speak to the family's first.

So he's not flippantly saying this doesn't matter nor is the president saying don't talk about it.

He's saying report accurately because I know from our military friends and family they do not want to be pitied.

No.

There's honor in their sacrifice.

And I think that maybe we're not used to hearing someone who's actually been in battle,

speak this way and clearly to the American people.

Pete does have a way of speaking that's clear.

And he's being honest and clear.

And what I will say is he brings a battlefield strategy with an Ivy League punch,

which may be hard to digest in this time of war.

But there's in terms, the president isn't saying don't show those who are fallen on the papers.

The president and his staff are just asking that we report accurately on this war,

which is, is it bad that this regime leader is dead?

Is it bad?

No, it's a good topic.

To the topic.

Number one, I didn't know that the media was the government's PR firm.

The media is there to report the news, period.

And history is repeating itself.

You said something that during the Vietnam War, the Nixon administration did not,

and Johnson also, they were upset that the nightly news kept showing soldiers caskets from the Vietnam War.

So no administration wants bad news and no administration in this country, apparently,

wants the American people to see the destruction.

They wanted to see him as though everything is a big picnic or something.

It's not a picnic.

The American people deserve to see what is the reality when they're sending their sons and daughters into harm's way.

But it almost doesn't matter if you support this attack or don't,

because there's always a cost.

And the important part is that lost soldiers are not statistics, that we need to see their faces.

Right.

Because I think even if someone who does support this attack,

I need to always be reminded of the cost of what that is for us.

You know, as someone, we don't ask our soldiers to agree with the mission.

They follow orders.

My dad fought in Vietnam.

No one asked him.

Do you agree with this war?

He did what he was supposed to do.

So you look at this and the sacrifice they make.

And I just, I never think anything about American military should be minimized.

It needs the front page.

We need to never lose sight of the cost of what we're doing.

That's right.

That's right.

And they're family.

I think we're agreeing.

I agree.

I agree.

I actually agree with everything that said in the sense that I don't understand when honoring a fallen soldier.

It's a PR problem.

I just don't understand that.

I don't agree with this war.

I believe it's illegal.

I believe it's unconstitutional.

But I think, like Congressman Eugene Vindman, who said that it's disgusting and despicable,

that we honor, that the administration is trying to make this about the president.

It's not about making the president look bad.

We must honor our service members.

Yeah.

And we should.

And I think we can all agree on that.

I think we are agreeing that they should all go with honor.

I'll be received with honor because they serve with honor.

That's why I think it's a big deal.

The best of us are serving for the rest of us and that they have my heart for life.

I want to ask you why.

You keep calling this like an undocumented attack.

You don't agree with the war in a legal constitution.

So did you believe it was illegal in April of 2011 when the office of legal counsel memo stated from President Obama

that the president has constitutional authority to direct the use of military force in Libya

because you could reasonably determine that such use of force was in the national interest prior.

A congressional approval was not constitutionally required to use military force in these operations.

Where were you then complaining?

I agreed.

Well, I wasn't on this show then.

No, but I personally wanted you to have stood against that.

I was at home complaining.

But I wasn't complaining because the office of legal counsel was involved.

And the office of legal counsel.

This came after.

But the office of legal counsel is the office in the Department of Justice because I worked at the Department of Justice

that reviews these things and makes legal determinations.

This president doesn't go through the office of the legal counsel.

This president does not go to Congress.

Congress has the power to enact, to approve wars.

This Congress has the power of the purse.

This president is acting more like a king than anything else.

We haven't used that.

He's the commander in chief.

He's the commander in chief.

But he is not a king.

And so I think that this should have gone through Congress.

I think that American embassies should have been notified.

So that American citizens in the middle.

I think it would have been able to get to safety.

I don't think that this was done appropriately.

I maintain that this is illegal and unconstitutional.

Do you like the results?

But I...

Do you like the results?

No, I don't.

I don't know.

Because I don't.

Because I think it's very easy.

This is going to be a longer conversation.

Since this is going to be a longer conversation, we're going to take a break.

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Welcome back. We're talking, and I've touched you off.

What were you...

Well, there were just a few things, and we regard to what Sonny is saying about it being illegal war.

Every modern president since Reagan has done this and attacks from Syria, Libya, Bosnia, Panama.

So it happens continually to give it context.

The other thing is the travel.

What does?

That every... Congress has ceded this power a long time ago.

And I have a lot of criticisms on Congress, and this is one of them.

If you want to be part of the conversation, don't hand your power over to the presidents, which they have done.

Two, the travel policy.

I wanted to look this up because there are a lot of Americans stranded.

But it's up since the 70s that the government has put countries on certain warning labels, like beware,

but also it is not the government's responsibility.

They won't have the capacity to bring everyone back.

They've changed that because that number was not...

They had a number, you were supposed to call that.

Yeah, it's a number.

But then the last thing is the other day I talked about how,

whereas administrations change, and it's always political,

I trust often the generals in the military.

That's amazing.

So, I have only four retired U.S. generals and admirals came out endorsing this operation and saying that since its inception, 47 years ago,

they have been...

This regime has endangered lives of U.S. troops, diplomats, civilians across the Middle East, and here at home,

death to America, death to Israel is a chant they have used over and over.

I trust that these career military generals, you can't become a general if you haven't served your whole time.

These career generals have seen stuff we have not seen,

and the fact that they're coming out to say,

this needed to happen, I do trust that.

But I have a question.

I have a question.

Like, a lot of them are saying, and I listen, like I said, I'm no expert on this.

I'm just watching the news.

A lot of people in the administration are saying that the reason this happened is because they were going to build a nuke.

Right?

Right.

I thought it was immense, we were going to get struck eminently.

That's the problem.

That's the way I was.

There were two reasons given.

One of the reasons was they had to strike because Iran was...

Building a nuke.

Had nuclear capabilities.

Yeah.

A couple of months ago, President Trump said that that program was completely eradicated.

I also wanted to mention...

President Obama signed something with the Iranians who stopped the production of nuclear weapons.

Yes, that was...

And Trump tore it up.

Yes, that was...

Now I was talking to my driver this morning, who brings me here.

Is he an expert?

No, but he watches Fox News.

I'm just...

And he did not know that.

Yeah.

So he's blaming...

There was a time, according to what I'm reading.

And you can correct me.

You know more than I do.

When Obama tried to stop it.

And he had something in writing that were doing it.

There were years away from creating it because of what he did.

And then this guy just tears it up.

Well, what I will say, though, in terms of the sanity of your point,

I do believe it's unconstitutional because the Congress was bypassed.

But when it comes to the legality of the war,

I agree with Senator Elizabeth Warren, who said yesterday,

well, I think she's pretty smart, but who said yesterday

that this is an illegal war because there was no imminent threat.

And so the war was started under pretence.

So we've heard these different versions that were hearing from the administration.

Marco Rubio says, well, we had to strike first

because Israel was going to strike.

Because then that intelligence...

But then that gets war going back again.

And then that gets walked back again.

So I agree with the losing of one direction.

I wish you were agree with this, Elizabeth, right here.

We're going to agree.

We have agreed on some things, even in the breaks.

But I do have to say this is a geopolitical move of brilliance.

It will be painful in the short term.

We will absolutely choke down China's oil access from Iran.

We've done it with Venezuela.

The Obama administration actually paid for the development of these nukes

at some point.

We have had imminent threat.

Thousands of Americans have been killed by this regime

and have been out here for a few minutes.

It looks like you wanted to send it after her.

You wanted to send as well as more time.

So we can't be going to break.

We could have hacked it.

So then I can stay on and keep everybody off my ass.

Yeah!

We'll be right back.

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Welcome back.

It was day two of the DHS Secretary, you know,

his testimony before the House Judiciary Committee.

And while her husband sat in the audience,

the questions veered from political to personal.

It would have been said as like many things.

It was kind of a poop show.

Let's take a look.

At any time during your tenure,

as Director of Department of Homeland Security,

have you had sexual relations with Cory Lewandowski?

Mr. Chairman, I am shocked that we're going down

in peddling tabloid garbage in this committee today.

Reclaiming one thing that I would tell you

is that he is a special government employee

who works for the White House.

There are thousands of them in the federal government.

So reclaiming is an advisor.

You should be wanting to answer that question as garbage.

Because it is not about your sense that you have brought that up.

It is about your judgment.

I really think you need to say the word no into the record

so that you can clear that up.

I think the ridiculousness of this and the tabloids

that you are quoting and referencing are insane.

And this has been something that I've refuted for years.

And I continue to do that.

You attack conservative women.

And you say that we're either stupid or useless.

I haven't said anything.

All right, so listen.

That's what you do.

I will tell you, sir.

Mr. Chairman, you're claiming my time.

Well, yeah.

Well, some people are saying was that line

of questioning fair game.

But it has precedent.

Well, it has precedent.

But I think it's fair game.

I mean, they're asking her whether or not

she had a relationship with the subordinate.

That would be a fair question in any job.

I mean, we have a representative Gonzalez

who now had an affair with the staffer

who has admitted it.

The Republican representative.

And there's an investigation being present.

And the precedent has been sent.

So those are fair questions.

Yeah, I think it's a fair question.

Tough.

My issue is, where was the no?

I mean, I've been married 27 years.

If someone asked me if I had an affair with Corey Lowendowski,

I would say no.

Right?

So why didn't she just say no?

Well, it is under oath.

She doesn't want to be considerate.

So virtually, that's why.

You know, I think that.

Well, that's the implication.

Well, yeah.

That's the big accusation.

Well, the implication is that she's

saying no.

I'm not making any accusation.

I think that.

I'm speculating that that's the reason.

Well, yeah, I think that if you're saying that perhaps,

and I think speculating is, can be dangerous at times.

Why didn't she say no?

I think some people, when it comes to giving respect

to tabloid rumors, just choose not to address them.

It's a tactic that you choose either one direct answer

or you don't give them any power.

Was it proper question to ask if someone is sleeping

with their subordinate?

I believe that it's a fair question to hold people

that are elected and appointed to a high standard.

I think we had the authority as Americans

to ask our own president, that president Clinton,

with Monica Lewinsky.

I think we have to hold people to a certain standard.

I do think there's a big, big case of feminism going on

when it comes to conservative and liberal women,

when we should be backing each other to a standard

and holding each other to a standard,

where we're not trying to say, hey,

we don't appoint women to positions of authority and power,

and then once they get there and they're not your political party,

try to take them down and get in the way.

Well, as an end of that war,

and trying to control the border.

Our friend Liz Cheney.

Well, and as an independent,

because I proudly don't wear a jersey,

so I don't have to be loyal to either side.

There were other, sorry, I did not mean you enjoy,

but there were other more concerning things

that this hearing beyond this very juicy question,

which was how Cory Lewandowski reportedly

fired a U.S. Coast Guard commander pilot

after there was a service issue with the jet

and a blanket that Christie Knome loves

was not moved to the next plane,

so they fired the pilot, told him to fly home commercial,

but when they realized they couldn't get back in the jet

without the pilot, they brought him back.

That is a concerning way to run your business.

Which part?

All of it.

Well, all of it.

A blanket, firing someone over a blanket

when you're a pilot, a commander in the Coast Guard,

is below that.

Well, he's also a volunteer special employee.

No, you're talking about that.

No, no, no.

I'm talking to Lewandowski, so why would he have the power

to fire a pilot?

That is beyond me.

My point is just on that explanation alone,

this was not how you run business, ever.

And the other thing is the DHS skipped a competitive bidding process

to give some, there were some Republican companies

that were created days before they were given

a $20 million.

And for some of the,

Lewandowski wrote the quote, approve that.

Right.

What I'm saying is these were all brought up in the hearing,

beyond who's having sex with who.

These two things are concerning and should be

to every American citizen.

But it's connected to having a relationship with a subordinate

who has outsized power in a position that,

you're right, you're linking it.

But yeah, I should already lose the popularity on those two things.

Yeah, everybody needs to keep it clean.

I think it's all the same.

Keep it clean, keep it clean.

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Yes, that's her secret.

Yes, I've been stubborn Corey Lewandowski

while a husband's sitting over there.

This is still based on business.

This is still based on business.

She's still busy between killing puppies.

Mm-hmm.

Running hard.

We're gonna let that go.

There's this.

We're gonna let that go.

Welcome back.

Jesse Buckley, who's up for an Oscar,

is ruffling some feathers over a resurfaced interview,

where she talks about the ultimatum she gave her now husband.

Take a look.

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Halt to me.

Halt to me.

Halt to me.

Halt to me.

Halt to me.

Halt to me.

Halt to me.

Halt to me.

Halt to me.

Halt to me.

Halt to me.

Halt to me.

Halt to me.

Halt to me.

I dropped this one.

Yeah.

The cats are too clever.

Yeah.

I got like, when my husband, when I started dating him,

he had two cats.

This is bad.

So I'm gonna go cancel it.

But the one of the cats was like a pedigree model, a bitch.

And she staged like a coup again.

So I come home and there'd just be like,

poo on my pillow.

And I was like, it's me or the cats.

But I won.

You won.

Ha, ha, ha.

Meow.

So if your husband said it's me or the pet,

how's that gonna roll?

It was really nice to know you for both of those dates.

Yeah.

Because the reason I fell in love with my husband was he'd never had dogs.

I had two babies that I was obsessed with.

Baby dogs.

Of course.

Anyone that has dogs knows their babies.

Yes, but not everybody has dogs, so you have to say.

Sorry, translating.

They're my babies.

Yes.

That means they're dog babies.

But he blended right in and the way he loved my dogs showed me.

Yeah, they used to look at each other and I joked on our wedding website

that I think he said the L word to her first.

But that obsession, that's tricky.

Told me just how capable he was of growing,

having never had that kind of love before.

Yeah, so I think it's a deal breaker when someone doesn't love

or at least accept your animals.

Man, he never had any pets.

And everybody knows I have like chickens.

I have two dogs that weigh 150 pounds and I have several cats.

And he lets the cat, one of the cats, sleep with him.

Yeah, I have a lot of cats.

Oh, look at that beautiful one.

Yeah, that's Luna.

She hates everybody.

Wow.

She sleeps on his face and he hates it.

Wow.

And he just loves you that much.

He does.

When we were dating, I told him I wasn't going to have a dog.

And then.

How many do you have now?

We have one amazing fierce dog and he is so awesome.

And Tim, you love that dog.

I love that dog, don't you.

And Tim has.

Tim has been.

I love the dog.

He loves how he loves dogs.

What's your dog's name?

I'm not telling you, it's secret.

Is it Donald?

Yeah.

That's a funny few.

You know, do I really get to miss you next week?

Yeah.

That's what I'm just saying.

Well, that went well.

Well, yeah, but you.

If you had met me.

My dog is named Bernie Sanders.

Yeah.

And I had a cat.

My cat was named the Benito Pusolini.

Yeah.

Do you remember your cat?

That's a good one.

So, what would happen if you had met Steve?

And he, assuming they were here first, let's say the animals.

And he said, I don't like the animals.

What would you say?

I wouldn't, he wouldn't move in with me.

Yeah.

Of course not.

That's easy.

I have a cat.

You do.

But you've had a dog.

Remember, beautiful bear.

I've had dogs and cats.

But.

Nobody lives in me.

I was going to say, you don't have people.

You have no people.

I don't have people.

I have them.

That works.

I think you can grow into love someone's animal.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah.

I can love strangers animals on the streets.

Yeah.

And I do.

They kiss me on the mouth.

Okay.

That's too much for me.

That's too far.

I just think.

How about that?

You know, because they sit there and clean in,

they're doing all kinds of things.

Not alone.

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I was beside me.

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Daniel Radcliffe is working overtime these days.

He's on Broadway in the One Man Show, every brilliant thing,

and starring in the comedy series,

and the fall, the fallen rise of Richardsonkins,

as a filmmaker who's trying to help a disgrace football player

rehabilitate his image and he has his work cut out for him.

Take a look.

No, I don't want to talk about the cat.

I want to go find it.

Wait.

Sir, you're not seriously planning on going back out there, are you off to the last night?

Last night was a good start.

Every great carefinder starts with a few dogs.

That's where the expression comes from.

But it's a fool's errand.

I don't even know what that means.

Fools run errands all the time.

That's why Wawa sells sushi.

Namath is your white whale, right?

A lost cause.

So why do you think that might appeal to you so much?

Collegart, you think the cat a metaphor for something?

Yes, yes, exactly.

No, you got their wake quicker than I planned, but yes.

Yes.

Ah, please welcome the fabulous Daniel Radcliffe.

Thank you, Daniel Radcliffe.

Congratulations.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you for having me.

Thank you.

So, honey, this comedy is very funny.

It's from the same team who did 30 Rocks.

And you and Tracy take, you make a really great,

oh, a couple, I have to say.

Thank you.

What was it about that piece that made you say, hell, yeah?

Oh, I mean, so I'd worked with Robert Karlock

and Sam Means, the show creators, and Tina Fey

before I did a bit on a Kimmy Schmidt movie that they did.

And so I sort of knew them, and I loved them.

And then they sent me this script, and it was to work with them

again, and to work with Tracy.

I was a huge fan of 30 rock back in the day.

So I had the idea of actually getting to be in something

with him was so crazy and surreal and cool.

And like, yeah, so I just, you know,

I read one page of the script, and I was like,

I'm going to do this.

I will read the rest out of due diligence,

but like I'm going to say, yeah.

So you and Tracy really hit her off, did you hang out?

I love him, man.

He's the funniest here off camera.

I mean, he's an insane person.

Like, he will say five of the craziest things

you've ever heard a human being say in your life every day.

But he's also like incredibly sweet and generous and kind,

and has this like actually very vulnerable side,

which you get to know very, very well.

You know, I went around, he had everybody around to his house

the night before we started filming.

And, you know, Tracy Morgan's house

is just like something out of another world.

There is like, he has sharks.

He has a shark tank.

He has a pool table that has a tank of piranhas

in the bottom of it.

He has a glass that was on the Titanic.

He has one of Michael Jackson's gloves.

He had like, it's truly like, you were just walking around

his house and it's like a museum, but also like, yeah,

it's just, it's all the time.

It's all the time.

Yeah, it's really cool.

So yeah, getting to...

Yeah, yeah, it's, yeah, you just...

You wouldn't, and I believe, I've also heard a story,

I don't know if this is true,

but when he could, because Sherry Shepherd,

obviously used to be on the show, was played his wife.

And I'm 30, I've also heard a story that he like,

maybe set fire to her apartment at one stage

during their relationship.

I think accidentally, obviously.

But yes, it was not a joke.

But yeah, he, yeah, so, you know, he's amazing

and unpredictable.

But it's exactly, but it's like,

it's a joy to share the screen with him and get to do the show.

So, Daniel, there's a running joke about you looking like Elijah Wood.

Sure, yeah.

So, so known as Frodo Badance, from Lord of the Ring.

Do you still get mistaken for him?

Yeah.

Yeah, I was like, yeah, we are kind of like,

we look different, but like, the idea of us is exactly the same.

Yeah, the idea, the idea, the idea.

He's saying, yeah, because Elijah Wood's from Iowa,

a little known fact.

And he, and he, I do get, and also he's a lovely man

with a great charisma.

He's a very nice person to get mistaken for.

I will occasionally get, like, someone shouted the other day

from a moving car.

I was like, Frodo, and I never liked, you know,

I'm always just like, yeah, he thinks he'd met

a little more than he's happy about that.

And you don't want to let go of that?

I don't want to ruin that, yeah, exactly.

I don't even know people thought that about Charles as well.

Yeah, that's all I'll look alike to.

Yeah, actually, there's actually a really good,

there's actually a joke about it in the, in the Tracy Show.

We do, there's a good Elijah Wood joke later in that.

And hopefully, Elijah, I've met him and talked him.

Hopefully, he is still fine with me,

mining this for comedy.

He's probably answering back the same way.

Yeah.

So after winning a Tony for Merrily, we roll along,

because we got to talk about Broadway.

You're now starring in the funny and touching

one-man show, Every Brilliant Thing.

Tell us about it and why this was a project you wanted to do.

So I basically, I read the script for this,

and it's a beautiful play about a boy whose mum

is struggling with depression and a list he starts

to make to try and help her through that,

and how then the making of this list of brilliant things

kind of follows him into adulthood.

But the, and it's a beautiful play in and of itself,

but then the way it's done is with a huge amount

of audience participating.

Yes.

So it really should feel like we are all

making the play happen together every night

in a really unusual way.

I read it and I was like, oh, well,

no one's ever going to ask me to,

there's me getting married to somebody I just met on stage.

So yeah, so basically, every night,

when the show starts at seven, say,

I'm in the audience half an hour before,

and I'm kind of meeting people as they come in

and trying to like figure out who we're going to use

for that night's performance,

and then about 70 or 80 people will end up shouting

something at the stage, but I give them a card

and they shout the thing I ask them to shout,

and then five people every night

will be like in the play with me.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, and it's great.

And it means every show is very different,

but it's really, it's good.

How do people react when you approach them?

They are bewildered and alarmed.

Particularly at the beginning of the show

where I'm running around the theater,

you can tell I'm like trying to get past people

and like running up the stairs to get to the balcony,

and I'm sort of, excuse me, I'm sorry,

and people are looking around really annoyed

and I'm like, oh, oh, I guess I have to let you go.

Wait, what are you doing here?

It's a lot of that reaction.

How much fun is this?

Yeah, it's pretty fun.

And they have to be so happy when they're chosen.

I hope so.

I think a lot of energy, a lot of people are like,

quite apprehensive when they're chosen,

but I think everyone leaves the stage having had a good time.

Yeah, look about unscripted parenting.

Yeah, almost three-year-old son.

And he's here, he's into big trucks and Disney movies,

and that he doesn't know, though,

is it true that he does not know your Harry Potter?

No, he knows nothing about what's right in my life.

Is there a way to tell him?

Yeah, wait till he finds out.

He saw me the other day, actually,

because we were watching the Olympics

and the show, the Tracy Show is on NBC,

so it was getting trailers a lot.

And the fact was the first time he's seen me on something

and I had just left the room and the thing came on

and he turned around to my girlfriend, Aaron,

and it was like, we're said with a tone of, like,

I'm not crazy, right?

He went, what?

Da-da?

Ah!

That's a good one.

Yeah, and then he was like, he just thought I'd left the room

and then appeared on the TV.

Oh, my God.

I'm trying to keep him in the dark about as much.

Like, there's this lovely period now

where I am just his dad and nothing else.

Yeah, that's a very lovely year.

Lovely year.

Well, I was going to say...

Pretty soon, he's going to realize that his dad

is Harry Potter, because it's been 25 years.

Yes, 25 years.

Since he first starred in the first Harry Potter movie,

you were in 11 years old when you auditioned for the role.

And of course, this is the view, so we have a clip.

Take a look.

Harry, listen, you must really be upset

about what we heard yesterday,

but the thing is, you mustn't go doing anything stupid.

What?

Like, trying to go after Black.

Why?

Because he's not worth dying for.

Do you know what I see in hair every time a demanding gets to near me?

I can hear my mom screaming, I'm pleading with Old Mord.

And if you heard your mom scream like that just about to be killed,

you wouldn't forget Harry.

Wow.

So good.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

What?

I disagree, but thank you very much.

Oh, my God.

You're very hard at yourself.

I mean, I've got more time for myself as an 11-year-old now

than I used to.

Like, now I can look at that and be like, OK, that's cute, but late.

You got the part.

You can trust us.

I agree.

Thank you.

But you evolved it.

That's the thing.

You went from that, which, in spite of what you think, it's really good.

Yeah.

Which is why you got the gig.

But you've evolved.

And that's the beautiful thing.

I mean, I'm lucky.

People gave me so many opportunities to do different cool stuff.

And I've just been taking as many of them as I can.

Let me ask you, if your son, your three-year-old wants to be an actor,

would be OK with that?

I would rather he isn't.

I, that's, I think, me and Erin are both actors,

so he will see us being passionate and loving our jobs.

And he's going to see you as child, do I?

No, I know.

But I hope that he will, I honestly, if he ended up behind the camera,

would love it, would really be into it.

I just, you know, why the stress of it is too much of it.

I think it's also just like that I feel like a lot of actors

so much of how we feel about ourselves is tied into our work.

And I would love him to get a job where his sense of identity

and self-worth is not as tied to that.

And he can just enjoy whatever on this side.

But, you know, and maybe on this side.

I love that.

This.

That's a healthy way of looking at it, we'll see.

It's a healthy way of looking at it, but, you know,

just because you don't want to be an actor now,

that's exactly what he's got to become.

And then you'll have the job of saying, OK, this is what it takes.

And then he'll stop.

Yeah, baby.

It was beautiful.

If I, yeah, that's the thing, I should try and push him into it.

And then he won.

That's what I said.

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