Time To Talk About Bruno, No, No No!

0:00Welcome back BBB Army. Welcome back to our channel. BBB Army Hearts and Hearts. I'm Ruth and I'm Nicole. How are you guys doing this awesome lovely week today? Also, we're filming us at the end of February because next time we know it's going to be March. Yes, so technically as this is out, we are in March. March. Hello. So we technically should be springing forward. What's the point of daylight savings? Like I always hear like, oh, we're going to stop. And no, we're going to continue for another year and then it's going to go back. Fourth, Arizona has it right. They do. Well, guys, if we are finally here and stuff before we dive into today's episode, we hope that each and every one of you saw the awesome newsletter that you got to pre-order that new DVD, not DVD. Well, yes, including DVD. CD of the awesome Black Throw Brides number seven. I know I pre-ordered my physical copy. I pre-ordered mine. Although Nicole was telling me before we hit record, she was having issues with it on her phone. I didn't own my phone when I was issues, but I also saw on the army,

1:03other people were having issues too. So hopefully everyone got their order in. I know for people like, it's one of those things that phones were having issues. The computers were too, but the computer issue was just it would take forever to load. So hopefully everyone that couldn't do it off their phone was able to get access to a computer. I had no issues surprisingly. I just saw it. I'm like, okay, look, clicked it and took me there pre-ordered it and no issues. Maybe I got lucky. I have no idea. Oh, you got lucky because it was frustrating on my end. I was like, this would happen. Anything I have to pre-order for Black Throw Brides, this would happen. Well, Nicole, you kind of just jinxed yourself. I mean, we can talk about that another time. A whole episode of how it goes. A whole episode of it pulls like issues with me being birch and everything from the websites. Oh, my gosh. Okay, guys, let us get into the, what's it called, nitty gritty of this topic of this episode. So, I don't even know how to start this, but hey, guys, we're here.

2:05We're going to be petty. We are going to be very petty in this episode, guys. I mean, petty. Okay, we are not holding back. Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to talk about Bruno. No, no, no. We're going to talk about Bruno about time. It's been a minute. It's one of those things. We also just want to bring awareness to fans who maybe have not heard about this because there have been quite a few new fans in the army that hear about him. But don't know what went on. And then, yeah, I'm just going to only say this one time. If you are new to the army and you're also new to this podcast last show, we addressed. This is the only one time I'm going to say this fricking name. Ashley Perty as Bruno. We are going to address him as Bruno because of the song of this actually our dear friend Ian who came on the show and actually made that into a thing. So thank you, Ian and stuff. But we are going to be talking about Bruno and our thoughts and opinions about him.

3:09And honestly, I guess you could say all the allegations and stuff and everything. So we're going to talk about it. And yes, we're going to be petty if I have not mentioned that. The pettiest. I know we're just going to be flat out honest like. That's no holes barred in here. I guess we can just start off of our first impressions of Bruno. Who would like to go first? I mean, I don't mind going first. I feel like first impressions right off the bat. I was just excited to have found a band that just like spoke to me and some like a band that I could actually love and listen to. So at the time, I didn't think much of it when I had first very first time meeting him. It was just nerve wracking to me. I think at that point I hadn't really met a lot of I guess you would say famous people or whatever. So he was nice to me at first. I say at first, there was like a mean moment. But I mean throughout the progress of watching Blackville brides, I noticed just things got weirder.

4:11I noticed he became a weirder person. And I started to realize just how like what's the better term trying to say here? I don't know. He just got freaking weird. The moment he brought out the burn guitar, that's what I was just like. We're going to talk about that. Thank you for bringing it. We're definitely going to talk about that. It's more things got weird for me though. And then for me personally, and I was just speaking to my husband about this too. I think one of the other moments that when I think back at the time, of course I thought nothing of it because you know I was under. I was only 17 years old and you get really excited when you're like, Hey, your favorite band is acknowledging you. At the time, I didn't realize it. But now looking back. So Raymond doesn't know. Hello, hi. I do modeling. And when I was 17, I was doing a lot of like lingerie modeling work for photographers. And lo and behold, because in a some, in a lot of them, I would wear like Blackville brides stuff like necklaces or the B2B Army arm band. Bruno ended up messaging me on Twitter, responding to my lingerie photos with like a winky face and all that.

5:13It's a good thing though that Twitter did not allow you to message people back who weren't following you. So I think it's honestly like, I'm like, oh my god, that's a blessing that I couldn't write them back. Because at that time, you know, you're not thinking anything of it. But when I look, when I think of it now, like, yeah, it gave like. Vibes for sure. For sure. I wish I would have seen it sooner, to be honest. I mean, you were just a kid, honestly, back then. So. I know and it's just, it's crazy. It's crazy to look back. But I want to know your first impressions. My first impressions. So obviously I discovered them through Facebook when they, my ex posted and I've been pen music video. Obviously he wasn't in. And that depends on the music video. I think I really saw him when they released their perfect weapon video. I didn't really think much about him. Although. You know, I said, we're going to be. We're going to. We're going to. I never saw him like through photos and stuff, not in person through photos. I'm like. He's ugly.

6:13I never found any. Like I never understood why. Like no, no hate. I was like the attraction there. I never understood it. I'm like. I don't know. I just found them. I'm lucky. Honestly, like, obviously not my type. But I'm just like. I never understood the attraction there. I never really did found the attraction there. And maybe that's just me. But I'm just like. Like literally. And you know that freaking game. We did. And I like middle school and high school. Mary. Kill. Oh my god. I mean, I can't lie. I didn't. I did the match game. But I did hear about that game. I went. Well, we did. We can kill a lot in my high school. And I they. My friends obviously knew it was a BVB fan. And so they always asked me. Make up or kill. And I'm like, well, kill Bruno. The group Bruno was obviously every single time. So I could say that. And stuff. And stuff. Um, honestly, okay. I first saw him in the pens and needles tour. I was so I was like 15 years old. So I was still a kid. I was like my first rock concert ever.

7:14Obviously I was screaming my head off. He was just doing his like, I guess you could say now looking back a rocker deal and stuff. Like, oh, thank you for throwing your panties and bras at us and stuff. And so forth. I mean, like, I'm sure back then he was performing. But I again didn't think much about it and stuff. Until I went to my first warp tour in 2013 where, as you mentioned, the fucking guitar. I saw it. I'm like, in my head. I'm like, what the fuck are you doing with that thing? Like that is disgusted in my head. Like I didn't want to even, I was just like so freaked out. I was just like, no. And then never since then, I just always got a bad feeling about him. I just got like an off weird bad feeling about him. I didn't know what it was. Obviously, I was just a kid, but I just had that feeling. You know how sometimes you just meet people and you just get a feeling of them. Yeah, that was just me with him. Like I always got a bad feeling of Bruno from the start. Like again, I was, I know I was young, but I'm just like, well, I was young, but I was also going through some certain things trauma in my life.

8:15Now looking back at him like, that's why I got the off feeling and bad feeling because of him because of certain things allegedly that he has done. Yeah, I'll admit I was a fan of every single member in the band. Obviously still in minus Bruno, but at that back at that time, before kind of noticing all the weirdness, I was a fan of everyone, but then it's like when the guitar came in and then just over time, little things noticing. It became one of those things where I was almost scared to say that I didn't like one of the members in the band because I thought I would be attacked by every person. So I was just like, I think as long as I like, you know, wish him a happy birthday and like don't say anything negative, I was like, maybe it will be okay. And that's kind of how I portrayed a lot of it until all the allegations came out. Yeah, honestly, I didn't do much about him, like even on his birthday. I may have wished him a happy birthday on social media, but didn't really give shit about it and stuff. I was just, you know, just to be nice because he was part of the band and stuff.

9:15And then obviously we did, did our homework guys about Bruno and so we went on the online and got this morning of like old articles and stuff because honestly, before we get into that, I mean, did you have any weird interactions with him during the VIP because only I had only had one VIP and that was the resurrection tour. And at that part of my life, I was like, get the fuck away from me. I don't care about you. So, you know, beyond like the whole DM on Twitter, that was probably like the most probably scariest interaction with him. I think in person, the only thing he did at me was he growled at me. But I don't really, you know, but that was, you know, that was it. I've had other multiple interactions with him, but they weren't, they thankfully didn't come off weird. But what about for you? I mean, like I said, the only like physical interaction with my first VIP was the resurrection tour, but at that point, I was, when I went to that concert,

10:15I just overcame the trauma and stuff got just for it and then obviously when I just saw it, and I'm just like some, like I knew something was off, honestly, during the black mass tour with him, but I couldn't put my finger on it and then went in a resurrection tour again. I was like, I still have this off feeling, but it's stronger now, and I don't know why. And so I remember he was there, but like I, I was petrified because that was my first VIP. And so I literally could not talk. I just smiled in a wave to Andy. And I meant to look at the other guys, or it's just so fast and everything, but yeah, at that point, I was just like, I don't care about him. I mean, I even remember during the concert, I was up in Barricade, like yeah, I was coming over, and like I did notice he noticed me, like what's pointing at me and stuff and trying to get my interaction on. I was like, yeah, I don't give a shit. I'm gonna yell at CC. I'm gonna yell at Jeans. I'm gonna yell at Jake and stuff, and Andy, I don't care about you. And I remember he was trying to purposely throw his guitar picks at me,

11:15oh yeah, I'll catch it. Whoops, I missed it. You know, and since you bring, since you bring up the whole interaction thing, I did notice he, I think it's wonderful, yes, to interact with the fans in the crowd, but I love how he's like, f*** playing the bass. I'm just gonna interact with all the girls. It's like, okay, you know, like get into that. For anyone who's in this time period and stuff, honestly, the timing of this wasn't the greatest. Well, I feel like no timing is ever the greatest, but it was announced in 2019 that BVB was parting ways with him, and I remember that because I strictly, it obviously didn't go into detail, but I do remember they made a post about it, saying like, you know, he's left the band, we wish him luck or whatever, something respectful among those lines. And me not knowing what, why he left, I was like, okay, that's too bad. Was I happy about it? I mean, was I sad about it? Not really. So I was kind of in the neutral land zone about it,

12:16and even made a fricking posting. Goodbye. Too brutal and deleted it ever since what I found out. Yeah, I didn't really, when I saw the post, I didn't necessarily like care. It was more, my mind was more what's happening to Blackville Brides right now, because I didn't know if they would continue on with the band, if they were gonna find someone else, and of course, this all pretty much came crashing down and right after the Vail Album, going into COVID too. So it's like, what is it? 20. That is what it is. Yeah. The show started with Bruno. And I guess we could talk about that, because I remember it was 2020. It was announced that, at least for the school district, that we were no longer going back into schools, we would have to transfer over online. And you know, that year was scary, because I was, I think that was you, and a lot of people's first adventure and experience with a pandemic type of situation. I mean, I know we didn't have it as bad, like at other countries, but it was still pretty intense to stay indoors,

13:17not knowing what's gonna happen, knowing that this disease was out there, and I was causing some death here and there, and it was scary. I'm not gonna lie, it was freaking scary. And so I remember waking up, it was June when it happened, waking up, and then checking Twitter, or I think it was me, there, no, it was Instagram. Instagram, I woke up, and saw the post of B.B. and they made about how they wanted to confirm and make it clear to every fan. Like, they want a safe environment for all people, fans, and let alone the crew members up to feel like they were safe and et cetera. And I was just like, what is going on? And then I eventually out to Twitter, and that's where I saw all the allegations against Bruno. There were so many people that were coming out about it, and it was like, I can't lie, it was one of those things that first, I'm the person where I try not to believe everything I read online because people do start rumors online. There are fake articles

14:17that you can read that aren't real, but they seem real. So at the time, when I was reading everything, a lot of it, it almost was overwhelming because I was like, okay, he did just leave the band, and of course, when it was announced, they almost made it seem like, you know, we just parted ways that it was an agreed thing. They met what they made it sound like, at least in my head. So then, seeing all of that, I thought, okay, what is going on? And I remember talking to my mom about it, and my mom was like, really concerned because she's like, is this real? Like, the person we met did all these things, and I'm like, I don't know, you know, I'm like, it's really hard saying because I know that there have been allegations against people before that turned out to be false. But this, I just thought, I don't know. So it was one of those things, it took a lot of deep dive to actually find out that everything was true, especially when Black Vibrates Themselves came out about it. Yeah. So basically, we'll kind of recap it. Obviously, we want more details. You can find it online and stuff and everything. But, the allegations, allegedly, that I were claiming,

15:17towards him, was that he was a, he had predatoryal behavior, and there was also, we have to probably believe it on YouTube. So it used to probably believe it on YouTube. Yeah. S-A. S-A. S-A, S-A. S-A as they say, yeah. Yeah. Now essay. And like, partying with minors, giving them drugs and alcohol to. Underage, drinking, and stuff. And it was rough because I personally, for me, when I went, I swear, Twitter just blew up when that news came up. Like it was so hurtful and sad to see the army split when that happened. happened because I know there was a lot of fans of Bruno and stuff obviously there was a thing called his last name. He was pretty posse. He was pretty posse and stuff of a lot of fans and obviously there were his fans that they were gonna trust on him and I just remember seeing all of these allegations and then fans had I guess the balls to start blaming Andy and BBB for letting them be there and stuff and not doing anything about it and like oh you let him do this oh you weren't

16:19there to protect us and stuff and I'm like I got so mad because I'm like there is much more to this than you guys should know okay as I've been through similar situation through my childhood trauma so I know there's always two sides it's complicated it's fucking complicated that's all I have to say and I just remember seeing all these hateful fans who were turning their backs now against BBB especially with Andy like there was so much hate towards Andy and I was roughly new to talking to Papa Chris during social media so I I can only imagine what he was thinking or all the family members and all the BBB members were thinking and so I just wanted to I messaged Papa Chris on Twitter saying like hey I'm so sorry this is happening to the fandom right now it literally is killing me and hurting me seeing fandom is turning against each other turning against Andy and then just forgetting about BBB in general because they were just a stand of Bruno and stuff and I I just wanted to reassure him like I even told him like I want you to make sure

17:21there are there are still friends that care about the rest of BBB who do not blame Andy and I'm one of them because like I'm sure there's a lot more than we don't know but I'm sure his hands were tied there was a lot of factors that he had to consider and stuff and I'm just like I understood at least I just wanted to you know reassure Chris like hey there are still fans there that's still care so yeah I felt bad because the voices of the fans that cared were not as strong as the voices of the birdie posse and of course the angry fans and for once again you can go online and read on the articles too but a big reason why when people sit there and say that oh Andy didn't protect us or why didn't they do anything for anyone that doesn't know as a part of this Bruno decided when Andy was what 16 17 years old very young he took advantage of him and made him sign away half the rights of blackville brides so he owned 50% of that therefore

18:22if Andy even wanted to kick him out he couldn't have there was nothing that that had to go through lawyers and so many attorneys oh my gosh obviously we do not know all the details about contract that Bruno basically manipulated Andy to sign stuff and I don't know it was like apparently from my rating and stuff that contract was like for it till infinity and stuff or something like me it was yeah Bruno basically wanted this whole thing to be more of a business than a band yeah it was rough and I mean we'll get into that but I do want to kind of shine light of all the people that spoke out about their experience with Bruno obviously just to make it fair we're not going to state their names obviously you are interested you can find articles about it and stuff but like there was very brave I would say survivors who came up and told their experience and stories a lot of them had common things of each of their stories of just like what their association

19:25with Bruno and stuff like there was one fan who obviously stated that there was verbal abuse and stuff of interactions obviously under age drinking intoxicated was involved the predatory behavior was also involved unfortunately to this fan was 17 years old apparently and she claimed there was grooming before the whole essay started and stuff so grooming obviously I experienced that so I know and apparently Bruno sent her some photos that he wanted the fan to emulate and stuff their physical encounter was during and after a BBB concert unfortunately pressure to drink and stuff and allegedly there was some essay in the tour bus there was another person who did share their experience allegedly this person was a former associate of the band of BBB again I do not know this is just allegedly but this person said they witnessed Bruno engaging with under age

20:26fans and stuff during the concerts or VIP and stuff getting fans on important as impression of them with two drink unfortunately apparently this person even witnessed Bruno meeting these fans around the venue because the security wouldn't let them through into the bus of Bruno found a way to meet up with them and get them on the tour bus yeah I've heard a lot of the stories about the sneaking people onto tour buses I won't lie when this whole show started and stuff me personally it was very triggering for me just to read all these people statements and like stories and everything experience with Bruno I want it to dig more but for my mental state I didn't because I was getting very triggered because these some of the words and experience these people have stated I was very triggering for myself just because of my childhood trauma with my mom's ex unfortunately because I was groomed and then I was also essay tooed so it was triggering

21:30and I didn't want to dive in it I was just so mad I was hurt I was just yeah mad and hurt well as you should be I mean as should all of these fans and anyone that has experienced anything like that I did the digging is rough I recommend going at your own pace because there's there's so much on Bruno it's kind of insane to be honest and like all I did found one piece of like I guess you I don't know if it's an article but I would say a statement from this person named Danny Finn I believe yeah Danny Finn yeah if he you can look tumblr tumblr it was a very long read but there's a lot of like stuff that he wrote allegedly that Bruno did do and stuff and what he has witnessed as a third party and for anyone that doesn't know if you're questioning why the guys haven't spoken about it at all or why it's not an Andy's book it's because they signed an NDA an NDA where they

22:31are not allowed to speak about it they bb slash the crew cannot illegally commute comments and anyway bad or good of Bruno or as Bruno will basically sue them but he can't sue us but he can't sue us oh you Bruno as far as we know anyway it's more as we know I mean hey hey we're being petty he's being petty I got blocked from him already okay so I have yet to be blocked you have yet to be maybe this is the episode where he blocks you know that's what I was thinking I was like maybe this will be it but no uh Danny Finn wrote a very decent detailed long statement on tumblr and stuff uh fortunately you do need to make an account to read finished it but it's I would recommend it if you really want to really want to see what Bruno and stuff has allegedly done obviously we mentioned he's manipulated young Andy into signing a way half the rights which is 50% of the creative direction and power when it came to bbb I did I did read too along with that

23:36that uh Bruno originally he wanted to be the singer yes and I know he was trying to technically quote unquote steal some of the members from black football brides to be a part of his own man but he ended up joining black football brides I think a lot of this even though he signed he got Andy to sign a 50% of bbb away I think that Bruno intention all along was to become the lead singer and put Andy in that base position yeah that was the intention obviously it didn't work but uh hold on imagine that seriously oh lord because let me tell you Bruno bro you so auto tuned as fuck I've listened to your solo projects I have not listened to your music videos so bad I will admit I did stumble upon one music video because curiosity killed the cat I regretted it since because I was just like nope can't do it anymore I know what it is the king of for a day or something king for a day yeah that music video I'm like what the hell am I watching it was to like

24:40I'm just like bro literally rolled in a green screen I'm just like green screen okay what is this are we going to submit evil Robin Hood era like you're not pulling it off sir I'm sorry like I couldn't finish it I could it I was like I'm out I can't I I will say this the one credit I give you dude is out of all of your songs that's the one you released auto tuned on wow okay I didn't haven't checked his other ones because I frankly just don't give it so don't you don't want to put your ear drums through that we don't know much about Bruno's side obviously when it came to all the allegations of coming but he did claimed on social media quoting technically I didn't leave I'm just not in the band anymore he kind of related it to like a divorce in a way I know it's just a separation because you know he's still getting what those freaking checks what you

25:41shouldn't be I just like I sometimes when all of this has happened honestly I was like I wish I could be a fly on that wall in that room when the band and stuff had to figure out what their lawyers how to get out of this freaking contract that young Andy has signed and stuff and like how to make a fair and stuff like how to finally free themself because obviously after the s*** of things came up more saying like before the restaurant tour Andy was doing a side project the Andy black and stuff and you know at the when I first heard about that you know I know we talked about it like fans were like freaking out with like oh my god this black felt bright's done is doing more black felt brights and stuff and I was thinking the same but at the same time like oh Andy has every right to do something there's he could do a side project what's wrong with that I felt that way the whole time when his when his solo project came out I never once thought that anything was happening I just thought you know I feel like artists do that all the time they create solo projects but I also don't when you look back at it and knowing that he did it so that way he had a backup I was like it just really hit you right in the fields like I heard it was literally

26:46because of daddy fanny even stated in his tumble low statements that during the black mass chart where he noticed things were off between the band members like he remember like hanging out with the rest of guys but like Bruno was doing his own thing he was not associated with the guys like some of the guys went out drinking or get something to do Bruno was nowhere around whatsoever I don't know if it was during the black mass tour but I think it was during the resurrection tour that Bruno and away had his own bus because Andy couldn't deal with s*** shit anymore and I do have to agree that it black mass tour is where we you would notice it my meet and greet with the band for both the black mass tour and the resurrection tour black mass like don't get me wrong that was still like an exciting moment but you could tell like the more Hudson and I kind of discussed it like Andy definitely like had an attitude no offense Andy like you were great you were awesome despite the attitude but I don't blame you like s*** happening you know a lot of s***s going on your minds elsewhere so Andy you could tell just was not focused on blackville brides at that point

27:49and then when it came to the resurrection tour I can't lie Andy just seemed so done like there was no emotion I feel like and Bruno the whole time never interactive I mean even in my photo in the middle turns his head blurred I was like that's fine was that the resurrection was that the black mass tour that was the resurrection tour oh okay well yeah yeah cuz then you tell me like you came up and then like for some odd reason Bruno couldn't sit still for a second or something which yeah and then so no none of the members were interacting with him during the resurrection tour I I picked up on the vibes I just you know yeah you assume obviously the band has their own life s*** that goes on in their life so at the time you know I was trying not to think too much of it I thought maybe they're dealing with something they were dealing with something pretty big lo and behold I I encourage everyone to really go back and think about it and your meet and greet and just notice the details I've been like details on stage we're all the fans who went

28:49to black mass are especially the resurrection tour cuz I have footage which honestly we're gonna be f***ing petty we're gonna serve it here cuz I'm we're I'm f***ing this petty okay that's your resurrection tour if you zoom up on Bruno playing the f***ing base you will see he's not even f***ing playing in for trust me I have evidence here it is the video that you're displaying and then just it's also one of those things too as I stated he interacted more with fans than he was playing the guitar he's he spent more time just throwing his hands up doing that doing that throwing guitar picks I was like is bro ever gonna perform I think I don't know because I think allegedly I think I want I want to say I was Danny

29:53Fanny said it or somewhere else I read that ledgerly Bruno was performing intoxicated during the performances and some of the shows during the tour so I also heard that he was only playing the backtracking parts and not the actual like yeah so I thought okay I did notice that during the resurrection tour where like I literally zoomed in and like bro is not even praying he's not even playing like what the f***ing even doing on stage then I think one of the worst parts if for any and you can find this on articles too when you research but I guess Jake has even stated that he had to physically play the bass during recordings for albums because Bruno would just refuse to so it's like okay hey that's not Bruno playing base that's Jake Jake okay so be self-titled album just came out black mass tour and stuff obviously that's kind of like I would say fans started to notice something was off between the band members but obviously we

30:53didn't know what exactly it was it was and then Andy did a solo project which made more fans like oh my god what's happening like Andy black is he's doing his own thing like where are the other guys is black football bright sun and I know that was it we talked about that and stuff and then came out of their new album veil which was a mixed roller coaster of emotion I'm sure it gets sadder every time we talk about it only because here I am telling everyone at that time uh when veil came out it's not the end like everyone calm down and then me like peering now or not now but then finding out that it could have been the end I mean damn I had some high ass hopes there and I'm really glad that it wasn't the end but it's like I almost like hate myself for not noticing like small and significant things even though as I said I did notice but I'm sitting here in my head thinking maybe it's just like their own like something small in their own life I didn't think it

31:54was as huge as it was gonna be no when veil came out I remember I was super excited because not only it was like okay bb's not the end but then when I listened to them especially obviously the last song I'm like oh sh** is happening and and also it took what four years for veil to even be released and we were all sitting here as black vote bride is going to create a new album because it was right after the black mass tour with the self-titled album that Andy came out with the solo project in 2016 but he released a song a solo song in 2015 I thought or was it 2014 it might have been 2014 that he released the song but it was one of those things and obviously as time passed later on we realized that when creating veil the guys were all just like how do I say it isolated like they would just come in do their part and leave none of them were really altogether in the studio like I remember CC when they did the unacoustic performance and stuff when they went down from the first album today I remember when they reached veil it was hard

32:57for them to talk about because it was a it was definitely a huge part of their lives like this because possibly be the end of black vote rights yeah it wasn't and soft and but they always said yeah we were all kind of isolated like CC mentioned he would just come in do the drum sets on the parts of the songs and then they they would tell okay that's it thank you you can come back whenever blah blah blah and then it was like okay there was no andy there was no jake there was no um burno et cetera they were all isolated performing their parts that's heartbreaking I'm so sad it is sad it's sad and obviously as time came past we found out more sub like for example um the lovely f***ing guitars like why is he using that when most of the fandom back then we're young under girl age I like yeah we were we were still innocent at that time and yet here he comes with the f***ing guitar of like a hustler guitar basically yeah like it's one of those things like

33:59on I almost didn't notice it at first uh I actually noticed it in more in photos than anything because I couldn't tell what was on his guitar I knew f***es were on it but then when you actually see the guitar like it's just a bunch of random naked women and I was like whoa so to be up front and yeah underage just underage fans in general and a lot of those fans can range from like five years old he definitely I can tell when you look back at old glam rock and roll bands and how they would just sleep with groupies every night yeah I think that's like his that was his fantasy to live out probably you know as we stated before it was very manipulative and controlling so I think he just kind of took advantage of every moment he could and obviously he's petty because what was it this is how I got blocked guys from Bruno on instagram and tweta or x so f***ing petty I honestly blame his fan group but basically it was like I think it was when Russian divine had

35:00turned 10 years old for the 10 year anniversary and that he posted himself a photo of himself during the Russian divine era and stuff and so I just like posted on my story with the vomit emoji and stuff and then I'm sure his fans saw it and notified him and so he blocked me I mean don't get me wrong it's one of those things where blocking someone is the right thing to do but in this case it just makes it hilarious like because it's like bro like you're gonna block me for something I have every right to do you don't know me okay yeah I've seen you but I've really haven't interacted with you and stuff yeah I'm gonna believe the guys and the people who have spoken up I'm not gonna believe you just do to just do to experience I believe the survivors I believe the people who wrote statements what makes me laugh is just the blocking part because you know I the amount of vomiting faces bro I get on all of my posts just the amount of hate I get if I blocked all of those people the block list would probably be long but you don't like in my opinion

36:03why block them I want them to see my posts and suffer so he's just I am like when he blocked him like I wish his laughing like how he can a human being be he's obviously older to like what does he in his 40s or 50s right now so we'll just say 50s yeah he's a 50-year-old grumpy old and stuff oh this is something who's like 10 10 years younger than me oh she made a post I would block her he does not handle hate very well no I don't know very very sensitive he is like literally I'm just like any interview he would do with loud wire or whatever under interviews I did not watch you know he's real quick bringing it back to the whole blocking thing I don't know if you noticed this or caught on either but when he was still in the band before all the allegations came out like any hate people could hate on him nothing after the allegations came out and he's

37:04getting hate he is blocking everyone so that's why I'm just like hmm like if if they're fakes or why would you feel the need to block it's so freaking sick I have so many words to describe bro now about this pun I'm just like I don't get about him obviously BBB survive look at them now like they have fucking Lonnie who is ten times more than men Bruno was first of all he got his outcast name correctly which is the f***ing Redeemer what was Bruno's outcast name what the outlaw or something no I think it was the oh it was the deviant oh yeah that makes sense yeah yeah that does so we have freaking Lonnie okay when Lonnie came up here for the what was the I know it was through in the EP the night I can't remember vengeance yeah obviously the adventures came out we saw Lonnie and stuff and then Lonnie proved himself like he belongs to BBB he was a fan of BBB he supports the fans and obviously he's very respectful to the fans and stuff he's a generally nice freaking dude compared to Bruno okay and I'm low key I'm here like

38:08now seeing where BBB is especially with their new album the BB7 with certainty hallelujah leaders and all that other stuff like my party means like yeah Bruno look at BBB now look what they could achieve without your ass they're stronger than ever they're flourishing they're thriving I think the funniest part is I you know Bruno's mad because he was expecting them to fail into crumble and Lonnie just made it ten times stronger they're so genuinely happy I really think they are unstoppable right now dude like after when Bruno left and tried the guys were soberly they was like a big uh weight off their chest and then Lonnie came around and then they just he just like sparked like hey let's come together as a group now let's not be isolated let's come into the freaking studio and work together and like we can see that now like their whole expressions have changed their demeanor has changed they feel happy now they don't have to fuck stress or worry about Bruno anymore and what he's gonna do I don't even know what he's doing now

39:09isn't he like trying to like sell and buy bitcoin I just like I'm here like I'm here like is he still a Nashville because that's the last thing I heard that he moved to Nashville I don't know like I I don't see anything about him the good news is that I don't even really see any of like the quote unquote purty posse coming up on my feet anymore which is great but I that can't lie that I did not like deep dive into not that I care purty posse it's just either or I don't really care what he's up to now it doesn't matter to me the thing the last thing I heard about him is I moved to Nashville Tennessee I think he started doing his own music and then something was Bitcoin because I know Andy call him out on that I wanted the performances and I remember Andy and then he made a statement about that it was like you know what Andy has every right to call him out at this point like I did want to bring it back to what you stated earlier though with the whole like you said any interviews he did you would not watch and everything the unfortunate part for me it's like I obviously didn't care to watch anything baby be related with him and interviews

40:13but I felt like have you did you notice though most of his interviews they had to pair him with another band member it was I think there was like a couple interviews he did by himself oh yeah I don't think I I've never watched an interview but I did notice that yeah he was always obviously not well I think there was in the early days he was partner up with Andy but then this later years came he was partner up with like jeans or yeah it's almost like they noticed that they didn't bring in enough views on his own so they had to like pair him with someone right I just want to say to all those statements and the people who just bake out about their stories and experience with Bruno I mean I'm so terribly sorry that you had to experience what you experienced with Bruno I am so sorry that you were manipulated groomed or whatever that was and pressured to do with things like you didn't want to I am truly sorry like I wish there was some type of justice or something but I am truly sorry those things happened to you you didn't

41:16deserve it whatsoever you were just a young fan and love with BBB and stuff and you got manipulated by for all the fans that were you know you all are brave for even coming out and sharing your story I know that there are probably still a lot of fans out there that haven't come forward and I don't there's no rush I don't blame you guys it's just but for the fans that have come out I mean I can't even imagine how hard that was because you guys are still dealing with hate to this day that's why I hate the internet to be honest online is so bad I hate it okay guys let's take a breather here and we went through a lot guys we went through a lot but hey BBB is better than ever we're waiting for the next album coming here I know a lot of us pre-ordered their DVD slash a CD combo situation we're super excited for obviously the tours gonna start off here soon and they're better and they're such in a better place right now with obviously with Lonnie the red day wear hmm same with the army like the BBB army is just in a much better place

42:19I feel like when Bruno was back in it it almost felt divided because it was you know you had the BBB fans the pretty posse and then coming into having Lonnie BBB is now thriving and doing better and I think just the fans in the army in general are just so much happier not just with the band but with each other exactly and we cannot wait to see what this new era has in store for them and us for the fandom like obviously like it's gonna be amazing when we find out that what that cover art is for their new album and stuff and everything like Richard Villa and amazing artists and stuff and obviously all the songs are gonna come out with the covers of like my chemical romance and stuff that they're doing and like it's possibly a new music video we don't know and stuff and like how the visual effects are a set is to be for the touring everything like we are excited and we cannot wait for it so many goodies happening this year with black faux brides I I said before I'm getting overwhelmed I think the next thing to happen is getting

43:24the album cover released 100% dude I can't wait to see that Richard Villa I want to still talk to you I want to go to your exhibition and stuff see your amazing artwork and just like dissect your brain and stuff because I seriously dude you have done such amazing artwork for BBB I know I want to go there to the one thing that I love from you so much is the jacket that has the middle finger so bad I was saving up money to buy it before I got sold I was like I'm sure thank you guys for tuning in I know this video was I don't know what you would say deeper than others baby possibly we were definitely petty just to kind of make it up I say deeper petty air all of the above I just encourage all fans to do their research on it if you're wanting to dig deeper we did not go as deep as we probably should have but there is there's a lot of articles

44:25out there definitely go to Tumblr and read Danny Finn's post I think that's where you will find that to be the most helpful it does and you know it was a topic that we've been putting off and hey we did it because why not I feel like I've just just put this point BBB we's in a good place obviously I think a lot of people think they're in their revenge era so yeah let's talk about we're gonna talk about brother that's gonna be more perfect they're revenge era so revenge era so I think it needed it obviously guys we appreciate you thank you for being here for our penniness when it came to Bruno and stuff we talked about Bruno but now we're going back to we don't talk about Bruno no no no no we don't talk about Bruno no more after this no no no more no more we're done I think we got it all out well most of it for the most part maybe I didn't say enough I didn't drop enough F bomb was but that's okay we hope you guys appreciate this video uh again thank you for all your support and everything we are excited to come back uh we don't know what's

45:29what's gonna happen next week, but we're definitely gonna figure that out. So please stay tuned. All of us social links are down below. Please give us a follow. Obviously hit the subscribe button because we post now every Friday and stuff. Yes, we are getting closer to tour and yes, we are getting closer and closer and closer. To reveal out the album, I swear, next week it's gonna happen, just watch. Oh, please, I'm okay with that. Till then, guys, bye-bye.