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And I'm Steve Mathis with me as usual,

a regional arena cross champion

former Geico factory rider, Philan.

He wore a cape on a parade lap in a super cross,

the Daniel Blair, what's up, DB?

Steve, and then there were three.

Ken Roxon is back in this thing, not only mathematically,

but dude is on the gas.

And I think it's the perfect injection,

the perfect time to just give this thing a little bit of life

because it was feeling a little bit...

It was just getting a little Hunter Eli,

Hunter Eli for the conversation, of course,

but now the conversation changes, man,

and I think the timing of this is perfect.

So I'm fired up, let's get into some things.

And yeah, shout out Ken Roxon, thanks, buddy.

Spice this thing up for us.

Yeah, absolutely.

I did a podcast with Peyton Stevenson,

his longtime practice bike guy 10 years on the job,

it's up on the Steve Mathis show feed.

Super interesting to get us behind the scenes,

look at Kenny and how he's feeling,

why he's riding well, why he's so happy,

all of that Peyton gets into it,

so check it out if you can.

Also, check out start your systems

if you're like one of those gamer guys,

because the fraud, Kellyn Brower,

he's producing the show, what's up, Kellyn?

Not too much, Steve, you know,

just fraud in it up as usual.

You're coming in hot, your voice is really hot.

Sorry, I'll tone myself down a little bit, don't worry about it.

You need to tone down your fraudulent picks, dude.

You gave me purest brown and Nate Thrasher

and back-to-back weeks, dude.

Just screwed me, screwed me.

It's like just handing over time bombs to DB

with this point, so I think you are pretty fraudulent.

Love it, always been there for the fraud.

I've been a fan of Kellyn from day one

and he's getting me back into this thing, so.

This coming from the guy that still has the red plate,

by the way.

I'm that good, you can't disrupt what I got going on,

even if you give me DNFers left and right two weeks in a row.

Speaking of that, I've been talking about this thing

for a while now.

You can see it on the camera.

It is a Troy Lee designs fly formula helmet.

I put it on my social, probably some of you have seen it on there,

but I've been talking about it and got it.

Finally, got it done to folks at Troy Lee in Corona,

got me a helmet paint job.

The 16, 17-year-old Steve Mathis cannot believe

is a Troy Lee designs painted helmet.

I wanted one forever, could not afford it,

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Got a local guy to do one.

It was never as good as a Troy Lee helmet.

And now I have one.

So thanks, Troy Lee, stoked on that.

I think it looks great.

I think it looks great, too.

I like the social.

For those out there wondering, we got one down, the app,

and live swap coming up next, folks.

Yes, and live swap is locked in.

Live swap is locked in at a later date.

And the app?

Dude, it's basically done.

Basically.

You know, Kellen, the fraud can speak to this.

Kellen?

Sorry, what was the lock-in date is now set?

Is what you're saying?

No, the app.

Pop-a-mex app.

Oh, the app, yeah, sorry.

No, it's great.

And definitely my favorite thing is the game.

But all of it is just way more streamlined than the old app.

And I love getting notifications when the pods drop, too.

So loving it.

So stay tuned for that, everybody.

So we are rolling here at the Pop-a-mex HQ.

All right, props to Justin Brayton.

He pointed out on his show, Eli Tomat clipped a tough block

with his left foot.

There's obviously something wrong with Eli.

We know this, the based on his riding.

JB, we don't know for sure if it is that tough block or not,

but it does make sense.

He qualified okay at Birmingham.

And then that was a heat race, and it went south from there.

And then we got a little better at Detroit, let's say,

but still not there.

But DB, I mean, it makes as much sense as anything

or a practice crash at home.

Yeah, and I think to JB's credit,

he's respected enough to where if he's going to throw it out there,

I like, okay, if you're Eli,

like you definitely don't want to share anything, right?

Because these guys don't want to share anything ever.

It's like a big sneaky, sneaky secret.

Anytime anything ever happens to them.

But if Justin Brayton's willing to go out and put it out there like that,

that tells me that it's probably right.

Because I don't think JB would do that,

willing to disrupt the relationship

that he probably has with Eli for his job.

So I think JB is trustworthy in that.

And then I went back and watched the clip myself,

and I'm like, wow, there there it is.

And there's your time.

That would be like ligament, ligament damage, ligament stretching,

you know, something.

And it's crazy because we're trying to figure out the timeline.

Like this past week on my show,

I tried to identify where the timeline kink happened.

Because he was so awesome.

And we thought, hey, maybe it's the tooth.

Maybe the tooth is what really got him.

Because ever since then, he's been, but no,

because he went to Indy.

We got to fast his qualifier.

We had a transfer of power of the tooth.

Someone was saying, and it just took a week, maybe.

So the tooth was my first guess.

And then it's like, nah, at Indy, he was fastest.

Then came him after Indy blowing out the private tears

and their existence.

Then the next week, he ends up in the LCQ with him,

which I visually, I can't even imagine what he must have felt like

in the tunnel with those guys.

Like after what he said, you know, he's like sitting there like,

oh, my God.

And I told him, he didn't say screw the private tears.

He just said, let's put 15 guys.

I know the whole thing went off.

He just got, he got, he did part of,

he was part of the screw the private tears thing.

And he's Eli.

So if he's part of it, dude, he's part of it.

Anyways, so I felt like maybe being in that LCQ,

maybe like 5% just rubbed off on him.

And he just can't get back to 100 because, you know,

had a little bit rub off from the LCQ.

And then to find that, or for JB to find that video,

spotted out, pay attention and kind of piece all these pieces

together that, yes, hitting his leg, all of a sudden,

that's when the actual speed shut off.

And he's been bad since then.

It really is identified now.

So he qualified, he qualified quickest Birmingham first practice,

right?

If I fourth best Birmingham second practice, no biggie.

And then that tough block happens.

So good job to JB AC show for picking up.

Yeah, no, that tough focus in the main, though.

That was not, that was not heat, okay?

It was a man because he was way inside gate from the,

that's right.

That's right.

Yep.

So technically, I mean, if you want to line up the dominoes,

the J-Coup thing happens with the wheel in the leg.

He's got to go to the LCQ, he wins that.

But then his gate choice was either probably way in or way out.

He goes in, which is probably the smart move on that specific start,

if I remember back, but that tough block on the inside, maybe got him.

And for him to come out third that night,

and even fifth last week and be kind of in the range,

makes me think that it's not something that is so bad

that he's maybe on the way out.

I think it's one of those things week by week.

He's going to have to like recover it.

And if I'm looking at the calendar like him,

I'm looking at St. Louis and I'm like, all right,

I can't lose a bunch that I just got back this week,

but I really need to get strong by Nashville and Cleveland

because that's where the run begins.

And you got to think Denver and Salt Lake

are going to favor him.

So he can't come out this weekend in St. Louis

and this is the one where I got to be right now.

You got a little bit of math to play with now.

It's on your side.

So he just needs to get good in the next two to three weeks

and then make that run late in the closing races of the season.

So dude, it changes everything though.

I can't believe last week can happen, dude.

No, it's so crazy.

It's just when you think, just when you think it's safe

to get in the water.

Show me that happens.

Yeah, it's going to be, so my report for St. Louis this weekend,

believe it or not, Indy wasn't as bad as it could have been

with the dirt because there was a monster jam there

and they left the dirt in there and it still turned into what it did.

My early report is St. Louis is looking muddy and ruddy

also, very soft, hauling the dirt in.

So St. Louis may be another tough one if you are going

through ruts with an ankle injury.

Ella Eli Tomac.

So we'll see what happens there.

Yeah.

But hey, another Red Bull KTM news.

Aaron Plessinger out for supercross.

D.B., I'm with you.

I thought it was maybe an April Fool's thing or something.

Absolutely.

Dude, I was wondering like today,

when we were recording this April Fool's Day,

just when I saw it, I was like, yeah, right.

But then it's not, yeah, right.

It's real.

And that's terrible timing to release something

that's pretty dramatic like way to day.

I don't know.

Way to day.

Shout out to international race team.

For the Vince Freeze termination.

Yeah, that was great.

They terminate events today.

And here's a funny thing is, it's obviously a great joke

for April Fool's that they fired their guy, whatever.

But if you actually go and read what they wrote in this release,

it's really good, like really well written.

And so shout out to them on a well played April first

and KTM, like you were the big loser today.

It was the wrong day to announce that.

Just terrible timing.

We talked about AP Justin Cooper, silly season,

both looking for deals.

This definitely hurts AP because supercross

is probably stronger for him than outdoors.

And then he's a hip injury.

And yeah, man, it's tough year for the cowboy.

Like not great for Aaron Plessinger on a contract year.

No, and it's not just the contract year.

It's the math at KTM because Prado's done well enough

or I don't think that's gonna change.

I think they're gonna, that relationship is reunited.

Then you've got Eli's decision that'll be pending.

Who knows what he decides when he decides how that all works.

If it's already been decided, I think for the contract,

it was supposed to be decided by now,

but that's probably all in-house.

But I thought he was in a tough spot anyway there

just because of the numbers in the math.

We talked about it.

So it's not just trying to stay there,

but it's trying to get other options out there.

As a rider, you always want two offers or three.

It helps with leverage when you only have one offer.

It's a pretty tough place to be.

So this is terrible timing for him.

And I'm with you.

I think supercross is typically better for him.

So I just hope he has a great summer

and everything works out.

He's one of the best in the pits for sure.

Okay, so a little bit of debate on this on the review show.

And I'd like to get the frauds opinion on this too.

Ricky kept saying the big winner was Ken Roxam,

because yeah, he did win the race

and he did pull within 14.

And he was, oh, I think it was 26 back, 27 back.

So we pulled within 14.

Good job for sure.

But he has, just going forward from here,

he has to jump Elyto Mac and jump Hunter Lawrence, right?

14 points.

You get three at a time, five at a time.

It's going to take him two, three weeks.

That's if he goes on a run.

If he slips up at all,

we're back 14.

My friend JT didn't agree with me.

Imagine that.

I thought that Kenny was indeed the big winner

because he is in this.

Daniel, you mentioned it off the top.

That's what made me think of this.

No, man.

Elyto Mac's the big winner.

Like I, regardless of this injury,

we'll see, you know, maybe it's nothing

because maybe he can't get better than fourth this weekend again.

But Kenny's got to jump two guys

that have generally beaten them all year.

So Elyto Mac is the big winner.

You got to write playback.

I would love nothing better than Ken Rocks.

I know in this, I would love nothing better

than the 94 to take this.

It would be such a freaking cool story.

But man, he's got an uphill climb still.

Come on.

Let's be real.

So I think I told you a couple of weeks ago

that you and I actually agree a lot.

Typically we're in unison and I'm more on your side

than JT in these debates, but I'm going to have to stick

with my five foot five fellows, JT and RC.

Kenny is the big winner.

And here's why Elyse odds got better.

Kenny's odds are now there.

They actually, they're there

because there was no odds for him.

He was out of this thing mathematically.

It would have been the biggest comeback of all time

where he was in the points.

It was over for him from a math perspective.

He has odds now.

And to me, that's why he's the big winner and all this

is because now he's got a realistic shot.

Fourteen points and you're right.

Overcoming two dudes.

Fourteen points.

It ain't going to be easy.

But his odds went from nothing to something.

And that's why I think he is the big winner in this.

Overall, in the grand scheme,

Elyse the big winner for sure on the night.

But Kenny is back in it and he looks good.

And Elyse need maybe leg, whatever.

He got a hunter who knows how he's feeling.

He smashed the ground.

I mean, if I'm Kenny, I'm feeling like

there's chum in the water.

This would be Cooper Webb.

I mean, if it was Webb, we'd be all freaking out right now

with a 14 point gap.

Kenny's never overcame something like that before,

but I think he's the big winner in the grand scheme of things.

Steve, I'm sorry.

Okay, fair enough, Fraud.

Yeah, I have to agree with JT and DB,

just because, like, yes,

Tomac does take the point's lead,

but I'm also looking at this from a grander picture

of Kenny, the last three rounds has been maybe the best guy.

Like, you could definitely make a case that Indy,

aside from his weird AP situation,

was probably the fastest guy on the track.

And then Birmingham, he had to go through 13 dudes

and then was on Hunter for the remainder of the race, basically.

So I think that all the momentum is flowing his way

and then to just suddenly get a massive chunk of points

back in his favor.

You have to imagine that he's feeling great about this.

And when you run the high like this in this sport,

that can just take off and he can just go out of run quite easily.

Well, it's been a great show.

Thanks for watching everybody.

Later, appreciate it.

Yeah.

Steve, I got to point out something though.

I got to point out a stat.

It's a bad Kenny stat.

Okay.

And it's why this weekend is so important.

And it's crazy where this, that's why I'm telling you, dude.

Some fans out there really think this thing's being written.

Like, there's a script writer because it really does write

itself out to be so awesome.

But get this Kenny's back in this thing.

We're all fired up.

We're emotionally invested now in his possible chance here

to win this title and he's walking into St. Louis,

the building where he won his first race back after the arm

injuries.

That was an emotional night.

I was on the podium that night.

And I remember him walking up and it was like chills, dude.

It was chills because he finally won again.

That's the stadium he's going into this weekend.

Buddy has a bad trend.

So the last three wins he's had in his career.

The next race has been bad.

For reasons sometimes his and sometimes not his,

but it's just a stat.

When he won this year in Glendale, the next week in Seattle,

he got 10th.

Last year, when he won Daytona, the next week at Indy,

he got 7th.

The year before when he won Glendale, the next week at Arlington,

he got 8th.

So the last three wins he's had have been followed up

by absolute stinkers.

And he has to break that trend this weekend,

but it happens to be in the building

where he had a triumphant return to the top.

And it's like, how cool does a story sometimes write itself?

I mean, it really is writing itself out to be at least

for a week, like it's a rad story.

Now if Kenny gets a fourth this weekend and Hunter goes and wins,

then it doesn't really feel the same.

But if he was to win again, say he wins this weekend.

Dude, next week we're fired up next week.

And we're starting to look at things different.

We're running numbers and we're running math.

And that's what's cool about this season right now

is Kenny just brought this thing back to life for me.

And I want him to win this weekend straight up.

I want him to win.

Very badly.

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All right, so speaking of Kenny and the whoops with Hunter

Lawrence, we saw him go down.

It was a very uncharacteristic error by Hunter.

And with whoops like that that were getting beat up,

especially near the end, right?

The end of the whoops section.

I thought to myself, whenever I didn't go to Detroit,

I was busy qualifying for the regionals.

Case you're wondering, no big deal.

I was looking and every time I saw Kenny on camera,

I'm like, dude, he looks like he's cruising through whoops

if it's possible.

Do you know what I mean?

Just half throttle.

Make sure your front end makes contact with the whoops.

Stay level and just sort of cruise through them.

And then when I watched Hunter, he was going after chase.

And I'm like, there's a guy pushing.

And it bit him.

So I shot a text off the candy and said, hey, no hate comes.

You look like you could have go a lot faster through those whoops

when I saw you on TV.

It looked like you were like a little cautious through those things.

And that maybe that's what bit Hunter or whatever.

And he agreed.

He texted me back and said, yep, I could have gone

faster, but they were gnarly.

And I just knew I had a lead.

And I just backed it down to just set like a mid-level speed

through their mid-level for a guy like Chase,

for a guy like Ken Roxon.

Warp five for a guy like me.

And anyways, it ended up biting Hunter Lawrence,

making that mistake, pushing hard through those whoops Daniel.

You've been there as a racer, hitting Supercross whoops.

And honestly, I'm very surprised.

As we record this as Wednesday, race was Saturday.

I can't believe Hunter did that.

Like I would think, like Kenny,

he would have the mindset of like, look dude, Eli's hurting.

He's not ahead of me.

So I'm putting points on him.

Chase isn't in shape.

I'll probably get him.

If I don't, I'll take a third.

Make points on Eli.

I'm gonna cruise through these things.

Again, cruise is a relative term.

And I realize I'm rambling now.

Talk for like five minutes on this question.

But so I'm surprised, Daniel, that Hunter did that.

You know, that's a really, really good point.

Um, I, when I watched it happen,

I think our first brain instinct is to always try

to analyze why things happen, right?

And for me, I always go to the mental first.

Like, is he starting to feel the pressure of,

hey, man, you're the guy now and you got the red plate

and we're getting closer to the end.

I'm like, no, we're too far from the end

for there to be pressure.

Then I thought, maybe it's a little bit of overconfidence

because once you get on a roll,

you start feeling a little indestructible.

Obviously, I'm talking about, for me, lost Bannos.

Like, once I got going Steve, I could not be stopped.

Right.

Everybody knows, everybody knows.

Everyone knows they all talk about those days at me at Bannos.

Uh, but no, I, I, I remember specifically times

when I would get so overly confident

because I was just on a run and dude, I'd get bit

and you'd have a weird crashing.

Like, hi, all right, snap back to reality.

Um, so that's something that's happened to me

in my own life at a lower level.

And I'm thinking, okay, is Hunter doing that?

He's getting a little loose with his skill set.

And I'm like, no, I don't think that's it either.

He's too disciplined for that.

And then my, where I landed was, it was the track

and it was the stickiness and the slickness

and Detroit's weird, man.

Think about Jason Anderson in 2022.

Dude, he crashed all over that track that night.

And it's just a really hard track.

If you notice guys were crashing everywhere

and that's the track, but your point actually,

um, I hadn't heard that.

I like it a lot.

So what you're saying pretty much is that

he wasn't really aware of his situation enough

to realize that, hey, man, you're doing well.

The points are working in your favor.

You're not in a position right now to lose.

Maybe you don't get the win.

You go on a streak, but maybe back it down like 5%

and find another place in the track to make the game needed.

But don't try to do it there as much.

Is that kind of what you're saying?

Is it just a little bit of a looseness in the discipline?

Hunter is not chase sexting.

He is not, um, Hardy Munoz.

He is not these guys.

He's smart.

He's calculated.

He's very precise all of that.

So count me in that he didn't count me as surprised.

He didn't like go mid speed and whoops

and realize he's putting points on Eli Tomac.

That's all.

And maybe the big picture got away from him a little bit

and he got caught up in the night a little bit

and I could get on board with that

because it was way out of character.

The crash into your, into your net earlier in the game.

That tells me again, that's the track to me.

That's that sticky dry, that place is weird.

That dirt is really slick and grabby in different spots.

But I think the crash in the whoops, you're right.

It was a, it was a little lapse in discipline

and seeing the big picture and realizing

that you probably still could get chase.

Maybe you don't get to Kenny.

Maybe you do.

You've had your luck with him late this year in races.

Maybe you need to be a little more patient

in the section that was sketchy, especially with

trashers down, dud knees down.

We saw shot go down like dudes were dropping

in those things all night and I, dude, I, I'm with you.

I agree.

Well, thank you, Dave, very much, Daniel,

but I appreciate it.

That moves me on to my next part here

on the Troy Lee Designs race tech bar,

Matt the show, the fraud you would have listened

to most of Chase Sexton's pulp interview on Monday.

Yes.

Okay, yes.

We got pod people too, though, Kellen, you got to speak.

Well, I, I didn't know if you were asking me

to get feedback on it or if you're gonna go into a question.

Okay.

Kellen, I like Chase.

Was that not a little weird?

I thought it was weird that there's like no changes.

There was no changes.

Yeah, I'm just, I'm just going to be happy.

I just got to learn to ride the bike.

Like it was like, it was like Rango was holding a gun

to his head while he was calling in.

I mean, it's all the stuff that we've kind of wanted him

to say this whole time, though, of like, I know, but I didn't,

I don't think yet any conviction.

That's what I'm saying is like, it's almost like he was saying it

so that we would be happy for once about what he's saying.

Yes.

So he's like, I got to get these idiots off my back.

I'm just going to say this, you know, I don't believe that.

Like a total hostage type of call.

100% because I, I mean, we hear all the testing he's doing

and he even told Lewis that they're going to go back

and try more triple clamps this week and all this stuff.

And it's like, if that were the case of what you're saying

about you're just going to ride around the issues

because you're good enough to do it.

Maybe don't go back to the drawing board every week.

Once we moved on from like the bike stuff,

he got way more open and laughing and joking like job swap,

you know, and all that.

He was all back to normal chase, Justin, but holy smokes.

So, so here's the question then.

Who was sitting next to him saying, read what's on the paper?

Read what's on the script.

He was like, yeah, man, I'm just, I'm just happy

and I'm just going to ride around.

I got to realize the bike doesn't, it was, it was like,

Kellyn said, he took every criticism and said,

I'm just going to say this, like beaker told him to say this.

And then he just said it, read what's on the game paper.

Right, right.

Because honestly, like, dude, to me, great work.

You want to heat, you got second in the main.

Good return, did he look spicy, chase sexton?

No, he did not, to me, he did not.

I'll see him this weekend, so I didn't watch every moment.

But I don't know.

Yeah, I wish he was happier.

So we get him a birthday cake, he's super unhappy

about the new person he's trying to be,

which is the right guy.

Like it was like, hey, be this guy now.

This is gonna be a lot better for you.

And he's like sad about it.

Right, right, man, I just, I don't know.

But the words are right.

The words are right, dude.

Like you are one of the baddest dudes to ever exist

on a dirt bike.

Like, I can't, I hate kicking a dead horse man,

but Zach Osborne on pulp, I was in studio with you

and Zach's like, yeah, get the bike to 90%

and then you ride around that and you adjust

and once you get it right, you, you go.

And it's like, if any, if Zach could do that,

Chase can do that, no offense is Zach,

but Chase could ride the bike around 50%

and still be a freak.

But again, when you have a mentality

where everything has to be just right for you to tick

and you live in this world where your brain is on that,

then you really can't ride unless it's just right.

And as soon as you accept that everything's gonna be

a little different every time you go out there,

including from the beginning of the race to the end

of the race and you yourself are good enough to adjust

when that becomes you, dude, you become a boss, man.

And he could be a boss if he just accepted

those sad words out of his mouth.

He's back.

Is he happy?

No, but he's back, everybody.

He's back.

We'll see, we'll see this week on race day live

when they cut commercial break.

They're looking at the cowdy truck

and the forks are off again.

I forget what race that was, I was my jaw dropped.

Just keep the forks on the bike and just ride it.

Okay, clicker here, clicker there, Chase.

I was at Kiefer's house on Saturday night watching the race,

had the race on Sunday morning.

And his dumb kid Aiden was like,

March back, she's having a good year.

And I'm like, no, he's not, man.

And then we got into it him and I.

He likes March back.

So do I, but he rides with him.

He rides with tickle, tickles Aiden's trainer,

March back and all that.

I go, Aiden, he's got like two top 10s.

Now he got one in Detroit.

So three top 10s, he missed the main.

He's not having a good year.

And Aiden's, I said, just ask him.

You ask him if he's had a good year.

Aiden's like, I don't have to, man.

Don't kid.

Blair, Kellen, not had a good year, right?

I mean, we like G club and ex rider.

Ludgy, come on.

First off, Aiden's not dumb, not dumb kid.

Sorry.

He is, is someone that's looking out for his boy

because he probably, like you said, he rides with him.

I said, you can't be in the media.

You're, you're, you can never be in the media.

Yeah, you, you'll never cut it in media

if you're going to be taking defense like that.

But no, it has not been a good year.

I would say it has climbed out of bad into, okay.

That's about where we'll put it.

Okay, but I will say, I, I was a little high coming in.

I kind of bought into the Garrett thing

just because he was so good last year

and he's bigger than I'm like, dude,

get that boy in a fort, he's going to be good.

But it's been bad to okay.

But I really think the judgment's going to come this summer.

I really think that the outdoor is going to go better for him

because outdoor is so much more familiar to these guys.

And he probably rode one as an amateur little here and there.

And I, this is a bigger transition than I think

we expected indoors.

But outdoors, I feel like I'm going to have a higher standard

of what I would find acceptable

where the pass is definitely being given

a little in supercross because that's a bigger leap.

So the test is coming, Steve in my opinion.

Yeah, right now.

Yeah, we'll see, we'll see what happens for sure.

Lewis brought up a point on Monday like outdoors with Proto.

Oh boy.

So outdoors with Jason Garrett.

Let's see, I guess, I don't know.

I mean, if you were to just think off of what you saw

last summer, you'd be like, Garrett was awesome

on a two video, get him on a 450, Proto was a mess.

Like he's not as good as we thought.

That's going to be a good little battle.

I actually very, very dumb, you want to say dumb.

I pin those two up against each other,

going into the season of supercross and feel like so bad.

I got that so wrong.

But I would say right now that Proto and Chase

is a really good battle this summer.

I think Chase is going to have some things to overcome.

And I think Proto's going to be a lot better

than we all expected.

So I think there's your battle for the summer.

If you want to go cally on KTM, it's the actual swap

that happened between the two riders.

That is going to be something to watch this summer.

And Garrett had the mantle of flying at the test track

for sure by many people coming in.

So and that sucks for him because that's his MO anyway.

Like I still hear at club, you will not believe

that things Garrett used to do out here.

I mean, I think he just pissed everyone off

because he's, I think he's an incredible practitioner.

So I think that he came in probably feeling pretty good

and then round one woke him up a little bit

and now he's climbing out.

He would run with Anderson when he was there.

Yeah, on a 250.

And yeah, so the test is coming this summer though Steve.

Yeah, I think you're right.

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All right, moving on here.

We've got the fantasy results coming up here as well.

And more, let's go with this gauge linville.

They viewing for triumph this weekend.

Linville's a good dude.

I've interviewed him a few times.

Kellan's probably talked to him the most of the three of us

at the races when he was a dirt bike depot.

He rode a lot at the triumph facility.

So when they need a guy,

Julie swallows out, Austin Forkner's out.

They plucked linville from the dirt bike depot guys.

And he didn't raise, he hurt himself pretty good.

Just back riding.

But look, the East is a little weak already.

I think you can get a top 10.

I think linville could put the thing in the top 10 DB.

Well, he's going to have to get through the showdown first.

Is he racing this weekend?

He is.

Yep.

Okay.

So there's another team just like debut in a dude at a showdown, man.

Full disclosure, I forgot it was a showdown this weekend.

Yes.

So can he get to a top 10?

Not in the showdown.

Not in the showdown.

No, no, I would like to see him get into the main.

And Ramano had to go through the LCQ.

So he got in and Birmingham just barely through.

I was very happy to see that.

I hope the same for linville.

Just get through this one, get in.

That would be a great accomplishment.

If you actually look at his results, he has a podium

in the mud last year at the mud one, that high miss one.

So linville has been on the box.

But outside of that, he's never been in the top 10.

So I think you're right, chase that 10th.

I think he could get it.

The East has been beat up over the last few weeks.

So after he gets to the showdown,

if everything goes smooth there, lock in and get a 10th by the end.

But what I really do like is that the game

the deal all the way through the end of SMX,

we get to the summer too.

Sometimes he's filling things like for me, when I got mine,

it was just six rounds of Supercross.

Now I would have never agreed to go racing outdoors

because I'm too smart for that.

And they are too smart for that.

Hey DB, we'll see you outdoors at GH.

Hey, so yeah, you're gonna, after Vegas Supercross,

you're doing Glenn Helen for us, right?

Nope, albeit Bannos.

But Linville is a pretty good outdoor rider too.

And I think that he'll, he'll have some success this summer.

So I'm glad that they gave him the whole Shabang

and not just like a limited time kind of deal.

Keller, Linville Bane this weekend?

I think it's gonna be a lot like Romano kind of like,

a little bit kind of off the couch, fresh feeling,

will have speed, but needs to have a good start at least

in either the heat of the LCK to make it in.

But I think so.

I just don't think that he's got the distance.

Like I think it's gonna be make it in, get a result,

move on to next week.

And then that's where we can really start the Shabang.

Yeah, shut out to dirt bike depot

because sometimes these smaller teams can be real dicks

about riders leaving, especially like Linville

who like, quote unquote, would be the star of that team.

Yeah.

Sometimes I can make it difficult, sometimes behind the scenes,

they throw fits, all of that stuff.

It looked like, I don't know the depot guys at all,

but it looked like according to the social post,

they were stoked for Linville, which they should be, you know?

So good job to dirt bike depot guys for letting them go.

Okay, it's time, I didn't put this on our list of topics,

but it is time for Dudney Corner,

Dudney Corner, Dudney Corner,

kind of shredding this weekend,

and then we had a big one,

and then the main was terrible, Dudney Corner,

starring Daniel Blair.

Yeah, I'm gonna hold firm.

What you saw in that heat race,

there's a glimpse of the ceiling

that kid is gonna win indoor and outdoor titles.

I will, I will go on record again

as saying that I believe that, I fully believe it.

But I also fully believe, fully believe,

they should stop the supercross thing right now.

Stop it right now and go get him ready for Paula

because I think he could be top five

at the opening round in Paula.

He is that good.

The ceiling is way higher right now today outdoors,

and the more they send him out there in supercross,

I mean, it's cartwheel here, cartwheel there,

and I don't think the learning is going proper right now.

So I would say, we got through it, we're good.

Now go get ready for outdoors.

I don't see what's left to gain when they are there.

There's a lot to gain over the next six weeks

getting ready for the summer,

and they're playing with fire.

I don't want them to ruin a potential superstar

because they're stubbornly just trying to ride this thing out

when he's crashing this much.

It's just, it's not smart for his career.

Do it's best for him.

Get the MX suspension on the bike.

It's a, I wrote this in my column.

I don't know Dunneedle, but I do know star,

and I do know the way they operate.

I wrote this in my column that Dunnee should perhaps

look up Jared Fry, Nick Romano, Kyle Peters situation.

Is there any chance like these two young, too good?

Like there's no, no, no, no.

Kellen backed me up on the again, this is in my opinion,

the shiniest prospect, highest prospect.

I've ever seen an amateur's ever, and it's not just that,

it's the mentality.

I know some things about this kid from the last few years,

just some off the bike, like the work ethic,

the mentality, the way he thinks a little bit.

I mean, this kid, this kid is really special.

I just don't, I don't think he'll ruin him.

I think that they could potentially ruin him

by not making career decisions.

And again, if I'm wrong and there's people

from the team listening that don't agree with me,

that's totally fine.

I just, if it was my own kid, I would say,

we're done with Supercross.

We learned some, let's go raise some outdoors now

because I think we bit too much a little too early.

But despite their culture, that you know, Daniel,

they do not, they do not clip it.

I would say there's probably some of them right now

that are going, I don't know if he's even got it.

And it's like, oh my God.

Okay, so you're saying there is a chance,

because of their culture.

Well, maybe, maybe, and maybe that history

does, maybe that history would play a role in that.

But I just, I think he's really, really, really special.

Okay, Keller.

Yeah, what I was going to say about it is it's,

I'm very curious how he responds to like this little wave

of non-success, because he's had moments

over his timeline and amateurs where it's been great

and okay, great and okay.

He's always at the talent, but when you're at the pro level

and you think things are going to go smoothly

and then immediately they're not

and you're probably getting questioned by the team

about a lot of decisions or different things,

I'm curious how he absolves all that.

Like, I don't necessarily think it's a fry or a liplonk

or any of these guys that are ready to just,

okay, we're done, but you got to get through

like this shady part at the beginning of,

it's kind of going to be crappy

and you're going to get yelled out a lot for like a year

and then come out of the other side, a better person.

Okay.

Yeah, well, super crossed though, man.

It's just like I said, this wouldn't be happening outdoors.

It would not, it will not happen outdoors

if he gets through this somehow.

But I just, he could literally like the world on fire

at the opening round of outdoors,

but each week this is just getting,

he's becoming more comfortable crashing.

And maybe it's, maybe the message isn't being delivered

to him which is, hey, let's just get through this nice

and smooth and if they're pushing him to like,

or letting him just go freely like this,

and that's on them too, but I mean, it's not good.

There's too many big crashes and all it takes is one stupid,

little one that could bite him in a way that it ruins

the summer and it's like you guys just screwed it all up.

And so that's why I'm saying, I probably shouldn't be over here

like telling that team what to do.

It's probably not my place to do that,

especially when they're a competitive team of ours.

But I'm a believer in that kid.

I spent too much time in amateur racing

around that kid and racing against him.

I know what he can be and they're playing with fire.

So I'm saying they need to be smarter with what they got.

He's that good.

It's worth making long-term decisions with someone that good.

And to me, each week is getting just,

it's proving my point every week.

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Keller, by the way, we did have some pushback

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So some positive McDonald's points conversation though,

but also some WTFs.

Yeah, who cares?

I mean, like, wow, what does it matter?

That was a aggressive defense of his life decisions.

Just people couldn't believe you didn't buy the cones anyways

for your children and you walked across the parking lot.

We walked 50 feet.

Like, it's not like I said, hey kids, you're totally screwed.

No cones today, getting a car, that's not what happened.

That's the visual that I like to live with.

That's what I've been imagining.

Yeah, me too, I like it.

I wish that I did have, because that's what I get would do.

100%.

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Get in the car.

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Daniel, come on, man, we need you to, we need you to be honest

in this segment right here.

We need you to be honest.

I said this on the review.

I said this on pulp.

Cody, little greasy on his buddy.

Like, that's a greasy move if it's not your teammate.

Having it be your teammate, and shock's awesome.

Cody's a great dude.

Aye, aye, aye, Cody.

So wrong word wasn't greasy.

Yep.

I mean, I have the clip, I've watched it a thousand times

because I got to look both these two in the eye

in the locker room as they sit next to each other.

And no, I don't think greasy is the right word.

And I'll walk you through it.

Cody passes Devon.

He goes off of what he knows, which is okay,

I've got Devon cover now, I'm going forward.

And then all of a sudden, Devon fights back

because Devon is developing his character right now

as someone who is going to fight back no matter what,

which I love for Devon.

Cody gets caught off guard, and if you actually watch

the video, he comes out of the rut.

And when he kind of gets the glimpse at this thing

ain't over, he pins it a little early

and just lifts up out of his line

and drifts right over to Devon,

who actually, Devon will admit this too,

leaned in at the exact same time.

Grease, he's not the right word.

He definitely made a mistake.

Cody made a mistake by drifting.

Both of them are very aware of what happened.

Very, very scary for what it could have been.

It turned out to be an amazing moment for Devon for sure.

But no, greasy is not the word, Steve.

Okay. Sorry.

It's not greasy.

I watched another clip from the front

and Cody almost had a big one also.

He did too.

You could have lost two riders right there.

Oh, we absolutely could have.

And that's the danger that you play

when you are instilling something in them right now.

And I will point out, both of them right now

are being crafted.

Cody's a little bit further along in this,

but Devon too, they are being crafted into wolves.

All right, wolves, wolves, wolves,

what the hell?

Yeah, like dogs, but like meaner,

you know, the next level of meaners,

like Luchani, Luchani, Jr.

Like, like wolves of Wall Street,

but wolves of club, all right?

Where they are,

will a silver bullet take them down?

Not these two.

So we, look, they have been battling hard every week

and they are trying to change their lives.

Look, and let's be honest, we are an underdog team.

We're not a factory team.

We swing above our weight all the time

and both of them want that next level of life.

All right, Cody wants that box

and he wants to win a race.

And Devon is trying to change his life,

which he has, we'll get to.

Both of their mentality during the week

and on the weekends is to fight at all costs

and they ended up catching each other

in a berm at the same time.

And yes, mistakes were made,

learning lesson for both of them,

but character wise,

I don't really look at it as a negative.

They're both becoming something different right now

and it will pay off in the end.

And there's reasons to believe based on what I know

is going on here and what's going on the weekends

that you're gonna see a better version of them,

the rest of this year and next year and next year

because they are trying to instill something new in themselves.

And sometimes that comes with scary moments

and that's what happened.

It was a scary moment and accident with two dudes

who are wired right now purely to fight.

And it was just really, really weird circumstances.

So not greasy.

Everything else I said is what that was.

We had Devon on the review show and he said,

he did pick up probably a lot of followers,

which he said more than if he would have made the podium.

So there is that hashtag kids these days.

Yes, yes, but that was amazing.

That was a great freestyle move.

Incredible, incredible.

And just want to point out one other thing.

Yeah.

Yeah, no, today, today Cody put Devon over a berm today.

Just oh, wow.

So you know what's like I said,

and that I'm literally sitting at home.

We just got them all to believe.

And then you put him over a berm today.

I'm guessing there was a little conversation, right?

Because Devon acted like to us on the review show

like he wasn't stoked on the move.

So I'm sure you someone pulled everyone aside, right?

Actually, you all know what happened.

Brandon told Devon, you be the bigger person here

and go and talk to Cody and you guys work it out.

And he did and they talked about it

and they were great today in the locker room.

They're all good.

And then Cody puts him over a berm.

And then literally right after that,

Cody put him over a berm today.

And you know what?

And Devon didn't have a problem with it

because you know what?

Devon said, I didn't the same thing.

I just stuck him right over that berm too.

So again, we are risking things a little bit over here.

But at the same time, Devon wants to be a winner

and he doesn't want to be a podium guy and so does Cody.

And the character comes first.

Everything else comes second.

So if we can get through this little period

of iron on iron here, you're going to see two guys

that you don't want to mess with.

You're on the gate with them because they want something

that they don't have.

Can we get my sticker moved down a little bit?

Jesus.

First, I got Vince Way running a pulp sticker.

On the very top of his helmet,

only the good you're a blimp can see it.

I feel disrespected by you for being honest.

What?

Because you got him on your show,

the review show this week,

and you're talking about team's column.

You're like promoting the dude

and trying to make my job harder

to deal closed with Devon,

trying to wrap this thing up.

And you're out trying to become as agent and promoting him

and trying to get him poached from us.

And so I know of your tactics.

I know what he's getting paid.

And he deserves more.

And I said that in a review show

and Kellen, 15 seconds after I hit Publish on the review show,

Daniel shoots off a text to a group,

some random group who knows we're all in 18,000 groups.

And Daniel's like, yeah, just calm down, man.

We're signing Devon Simonson, just calm down.

Because I said to Devon like, hey, do you have an agent?

Because people are gonna be calling.

Qualified third this weekend, right?

Running up front, all of it.

But Daniel, you are here to say that

you have walked this dude down.

Breaking news on this show.

Back-to-back week's breaking news.

We got the yogi news a week ago.

We got the Simonson news today.

But Devon has signed his extension through the 2027 season.

So Bobby Reagan, if you are listening,

just move along, pal.

But no, he has signed.

And it's a really rare story overall.

And I know you and I both share some of the affection

to this moment because you're a big believer in Devon.

You've been for a long time.

I love Devon.

And he has done something really cool.

And Brandon's really excited about this too,

because he came here as a customer.

He was a paying customer, kind of gave him a little shot here,

gave him a shot there.

Then he had to earn his deal last summer.

And it was all based on his character.

Brandon, put him through a pretty tough test last year

on how bad do you want it?

And he, dude, he lost a bunch of weight.

He committed and grinded all summer long for no reward.

Really, he just was hoping for something.

And then we gave him a shot this year,

the same deal that Hunter Yoder had.

It was a supercross only contract, prove it deal.

And he proved to us through everything that he's done,

that he is worth the investment in the future.

So we locked him up today and he'll be with us.

And that goes along with a kind of a subplot

to this announcement, which is our roster is all signed.

We extended Max Vollen, Hunter Yoder,

Ryder Malinowski, Devin, when you love your team

and you love the people in the locker room

and you believe in them, you don't play a game.

And we played a game just to find out who they were

and once we knew who they were,

we signed them to extension.

So we're locked up for 27.

Well, good job.

Good kid.

You gave him some outdoors too.

He's got some outdoors coming up, which is nice

because he didn't have any of that in the plan in the schedule.

My favorite part of St. Louis this weekend

will be Kellyn's going and to watch Devin beat down Max Vollen

in the showdown and watch tears of sadness roll down

Kellyn's cheeks.

That will make my whole night, Kellyn.

I'm clipping this and sending it to Max.

I mean, right away from motivation.

So my little Devin top club rider can't wait.

Can't not wait.

Hey, I will say Kellyn to make you feel better.

Max miss had himself a really good week.

It really good.

It's all good weeks.

It's all good weeks.

Really good week.

The guy doesn't even have a foot.

So like he's doing a good job.

He is pretty filthy.

He had a great week.

So yeah, all four boys ready to rock in all this weekend.

And again, we're trying to create a little wolf pack of dudes

that are going to go take what they want and not be pushed around.

So it's part of their development this year.

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By the way, Steve, did Evan get his points back?

Yeah, we are in the positive now.

We are in the positive now.

Can't, yeah.

No, but they didn't give him his points back.

No, they didn't give him his penny back.

They didn't do that.

Oh, okay, so webs allowed.

I guess if you're a three-time champion allowed to do it,

but you can't, if you're Evan Fairy.

Evan Fairy's penalty will forever be in the WTF, man.

You know, by the way,

and I should, we should mention, in case you didn't

list the pulp show people, J-Bone is taken over Yogi's job

as sort of the rider team rep.

So we'll see J-Bone doing that now.

That's a tough place to be right now this year.

But yeah, I don't even want to get us both

probably flipping out and throwing things.

But yeah, it's okay when the three-time champ

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And I do want to point out so I don't get,

so I don't read something silly in the comments.

I do not believe that web should get

what Ferry got, okay?

I don't think, well what, Cooper should have got it.

No, Ferry should get his money back, his points back

and they should make a public apology.

Dude.

That's what I believe.

And I love J-Bone.

Know them forever, great guy.

He danced around the interview on Monday night

about that kind of stuff.

Cause he wasn't involved in it.

He's a technical side of things.

Now he's involved with it.

But I'm just like J-Bone, the TV crew should never know

ahead of the team.

But he's like, ah, people are busy,

people are running around, you know, but no.

The team should not be finding out on TV

that their rider got penalized three times,

three times, license points, championship points, fine.

Yeah, no, and I'm with you.

They did a book at a man, like they literally,

like they gave him what Vince should have gotten

like 50 times in his life, but they gave it to Evan Ferry

for a last chance, for a last lap,

final transfer spot move.

Was it smart?

No, it wasn't, but it was, it was a lot like what Coup did.

It was in the same category as what Eli did.

And it's, and it's also been done six thousand times

in the last couple of years and nothing.

Yeah, unbelievable.

The AMA outlawed.

Little rare.

Yeah.

Listen, Evan Ferry, Evan's riding better.

We got something there.

We got some hope, Kellyn and Lewis can take all of their jokes

and shove them because we got something there.

Evan Ferry.

Kellyn.

I like Evan a lot.

So pairing him to Evan or to Timmy.

So I was going to ask you who the, who the best privateer

has been this year, but then I started thinking, wait,

Savachi Craig and Macarath are private here.

So take them out of it.

It's either Vince or Mitchell Harrison.

They're really similar.

Now Vince is only two points up on Mitchell Harrison,

but Vince has lost 14 points due to penalties this year.

You know, that's, that's amazing.

Yeah.

I mean, I mean, Vince, here's the thing.

Vince has been around for so long and has done so good.

And again, people are probably like, what?

But he has done really good throughout a decade or more

of 450 racing where he makes mains.

He gets up front.

He's Mitchell to me being like an every week main guy

and just kind of being like almost like a shoe in like,

that's great for him.

So I would, I would say up my feelings are better towards his results.

And that's not a personal thing because of my past with Vince.

I just, Vince has actually been very good for a long time

in that place where he's been.

This isn't new.

And this isn't really new for Mitchell either.

It's just a continuation of his career development here late

where he's a 450 guy.

He makes mains.

It's been awesome.

And he's done it since the beginning too.

So I'll go Mitchell.

Keller, we know that Partzilla is a big sponsor of the LVK show,

but Vince Fries or Mitchell Harrison for you.

I mean, I think Vince just because the last like two years,

him doing WSX, the Stark stuff, like I kind of felt like he maybe lost

the magic a little bit like we were finally over the hill with Vince

being an elite supercross guy.

And I feel like aside from Vince still being Vince with the moves,

he's kind of back a little bit like from talent wise, like his starts

have come back this year, the riding seems to be quite good

when he's all by himself.

And yeah, I think that he's taken like a noticeable step up from where I

thought he would fit into this group.

Yeah, I think you guys are right.

Shout out Harlan.

He's riding better than he was last year also for that.

All right, I'll start with Kellen before you go to fantasy

results for this week.

Last final thing, St. Louis weekend, that dome has been around since 96.

As we said, I think they've hosted races most of those years since 96.

They missed a few here and there.

But St. Louis memories, Kellen, I say St. Louis, you,

St. Louis supercross, you think what?

Honestly, like a little bit low key, this race that Morocco led a lot in 98,

like at a rare whole shot.

OK, I don't remember this at all.

OK, it took Jeremy a while to catch him, though.

And this is like when Jeremy really got the ball rolling with chap really

Omaha. So that one sticks out to me.

Like everybody goes to the Pastrona track bill and all that stuff.

But that La Rocco race for me, I just kind of, I don't know, six of my head, my head.

Daniel, Steve, you're going to love this 2012.

I'm traveling in the van racing supercross.

I've got a fellow with me named Hobo Nick.

Oh, yeah.

And out in front of the stadium, the van gets robbed during the night show.

And they stole Hobo Nick's backpack and his passport.

And he was scheduled to fly to Costa Rica the next day.

And because they stole his passport, he couldn't go.

He stayed on the road.

And like three weeks later, this led to that led to this and Hobo Nick flew to Jacksonville, Florida.

And walked this toe, dipped his toe in the Atlantic Ocean and walked six months across the country

and dove into the Pacific.

And it all happened because the van got robbed out in front of the stadium on that

Saturday night in 2012, Steve.

Those guys that stole that backpack, they started a journey for a man.

They started to realize the legend they created by stealing his passport.

I have Hobo Nick's speaking of Troy Lee.

I have one stinky, Troy Lee hat in a ziplock bag in the studio here that he wore for six months.

And he wore for six months, rocking across America.

Kellan, do you remember that?

Do you know anything about that?

Oh, yeah, I think that's the first time I ever followed Hobo Nick was through that whole journey.

And I still fell into this day.

Dude, I just, uh, Boogie went and met him with drinks and snacks at one point on the, on the 40.

He, he is such a rad dude.

So I actually hung out with him a couple of weeks ago and I went to California on the off week.

And I hadn't seen him in a while.

And he's, he's the same dude other than he's not a hobo anymore.

He's actually, he's pretty successful and he's, he's done well for himself.

And he's, he's a great dude.

But I'll never forget, man, that that night is when the whole thing actually started.

Yep.

Okay.

I got two St. Louis memories.

One on the line for the 250 main 1999, work it for fairy, Nolan.

And Kelly Smith is leading the whole damn thing as a private tear on a no linkage KTM.

Like number 64.

Yes.

You're like, you're like, this nut job on a KTM is going to win it.

And I don't mean nut job like him.

I just, because he's riding a KTM, which in 98 was weird.

So this weirdo on a, he's riding a weirdo bike.

He's going to win this main event.

He's going to win.

And then our nestle fun say it comes up.

They tangle Kelly lands on his head.

DNF, he goes, I think it was a lap and a half to go.

No, he, Ernie landed, Ernie landed on Ken.

No, no, Kelly Smith.

Ernie Kelly Kelly, not Kelly, they tangled bars.

And then Kelly went off into the Giggle weeds.

Are you sure?

I thought Ernie landed on well, Kelly in a rhythm section.

I mean, I think he maybe came down and clipped his bars.

Maybe he didn't land on his head or anything.

He didn't land on him.

No, not like that.

I have to go on his video.

He landed maybe next to Kelly.

And then they clip bars and sent Kelly high siding to the ground.

So he goes from winning to DNF and then do a Maley breaks out.

Maley, Maley, broke out, break out on the podium, shoving, pushing, yelling.

There's video of that out there on YouTube.

There is.

Yeah, it's your stuff.

It is why Kelly's dad's in the mix.

Dean Baker from Yamaha of Troy's in the mix.

It's a whole thing.

And we're just sitting on the line going, hmm, look at that.

At KTM's going to win.

Huh?

No, he's not.

Oh, hey, look.

Now there's a brawl.

Little did I know two years later, I'd be working for Kelly and we win high point and give KTM its first ever win.

That's red.

That is right.

And then I will also think of 2003 St. Louis.

Ferry was hurt.

Epstein bar.

You sit now.

I was going to the races as a helper.

And so I was standing on the side of the track.

When Chad one is, I don't know, he went in a six in a row to end the year, I think in 03.

Kellan's nodding.

He probably knows dork.

I don't know what race St. Louis was, but at that point, Ricky was telling people.

I've got a big point, sweetheart.

I'm just, I'm just going to ride this thing out.

I got a big point.

So Chad seated fallen off at Minneapolis earlier that year.

But dude, I'm telling you, he was so mad and stretching that throttle cable.

The whoops, of course, we're hurting him.

Chad was crushing him in the whoops.

He couldn't catch Chad and he was so frustrated and mad at that.

But then afterwards, Scott Taylor, factory spectator guy, his media outlet, we always just

riding for the points.

And I'm like, no, no, man, no, no, man, he was really, really mad.

Chad had him.

Chad had him covered the second half of 03 without a doubt.

Where did, where did DV smack wrong, Cotta?

St. Louis.

It was no, no, no, no, no, no, because the dirt color is close ish.

But I think it was Atlanta.

Because this is, they took each other out in the heat race or something, right?

Yeah, that was 02 funny story about that.

We were in staging for the heat when that happened.

Ron Cotta threw his bike down and I was working for Nick Wei.

Nick's like, grab his bike, grab his bike.

Dr. Kelly, I just, I remember that.

And it was like, Wilman slapped him and then like, did a little bit more, but

I remember being like, dang, these two French dudes are over here.

And they're just freaking fighting after the race.

I thought, I just, man, I'll never forget that.

I just don't remember where I, it might have been Atlanta though.

I feel like the dirt was redder.

Also St. Louis 02 in staging for the main.

Wilman went in the porta potty in the staging area and then guys were holding

the door and not letting him get out.

And that was pretty, that's awesome.

I think Brayton maybe made his guy go on to debut.

Yeah, St. Louis in 04.

He did, he did.

Also Nick Wei, Nathan Ramsey wrote the 250 class for pro circuit.

Remember when pro circuit used to do that?

Nathan wrote the two and Nick took them down in the sand section by the mechanics area.

You know, two and then Nate got really mad at Nick.

And I was like, that's awesome because you know, Vincent and Nick wrote for Orange

Brigade and Nate was like the boss.

And then when I was the guy, Nate was my boss and they had a lot of conversations.

I didn't know.

Nick and Nate were teammates for a hundred different teams for 30 years.

They just had a moment just a moment.

Yeah, they had a moment.

Yeah, back then.

Okay, all right.

Good show.

Let's wrap this up with the fantasy stuff.

Love this, love to see this.

Thank you, Fraud.

I've always been their fan of the fraud as we know.

Okay.

So I had Chase Sexton.

I said 50 got second.

Sorry, Chase.

Plus three.

Colt Nichols.

I said 12.

He got 17th.

Yikes after season best eighth.

I was five off.

And Kaden Dudney.

I said 13th.

He got 18th.

Five off.

So not a good week for me.

I mean, 13 for between 13 points off.

13 positions off after three riders.

Not good, but thankfully my buddy Daniel Blair for Andes.

You said 90 got seventh, two off.

Not bad.

Christian Craig.

You said 11th.

He got 12th.

Good job.

But old Nate thrasher comes in and just does a Nate thrasher

moment.

He was either going to win or get last.

He got last 21st place.

Plus 14 off.

That pulls me to within eight.

Eight points, Daniel.

I mean, Kaden 03.

I am Chad and 03 and you are RC.

I get.

Okay, I guess when I'm getting Pierce Brown and Nate thrasher

and back to back weeks, dude, just absolutely putting me in a

terrible position.

But, um, let's see what he gives me this week.

Before I get to upset, but if he punks me three weeks in a row

with some nonsense, crazy time bomb pick, I'm going to be upset.

But I have faith that he's going to be more fair.

My guy, Kellen will come through.

He'll be more fair this week.

I bet that's what I believe just terribly sorry to have given

DBA guy that podiumed basically this week for three first

races of the year.

I totally knew he would ram himself into the ground before

a finish line job.

Mm hmm.

Sound you knew.

All right.

Let's lead off with DBA this week, shall we?

I'm going to give you guys one of each class basically.

So one West, one East, one East and one 450.

So DBA, I'm going to give you Malcolm Stewart this week for 450s.

Let's go.

Five, fifth for Mookie.

And by the way, we didn't even mention it.

Cool to see Mookie on the podium is awesome.

Dude, I know, um, he's like my,

he's one of my favorite riders to talk to.

He really is.

He's a good dude.

He was, he was so good on race day life last week too.

Like he is, he's, he's incredible.

And yeah, he gets a third.

We don't even talk about it, man.

That sucks, dude.

Okay.

So what are we doing with the house?

Are we renting it?

Can you win it?

Is Malcolm staying there?

I, I didn't so confused.

They just said him.

And what about this Airbnb you got Malcolm?

Yeah, I don't really know what like it all meant.

I mean, I thought it was sick, but I was like,

okay, so what does that mean?

I don't know.

I'm with you.

I don't know.

I'm not sure exactly with the house.

That's an, I don't know, man.

Does he live there?

Do you move in with them?

Is it a contest?

Yeah, do you get to live with them?

I go fifth.

Maybe most of them will take them in.

All right, D.V., your next pick, Max Anstey.

East West Showdown.

He got seventh last showdown, I think.

Yeah.

Fifth.

What happened to Max?

Like we know we had that cough and then appendix,

but yeah, that's a whole,

put it on our list for next week, Steve,

depending on how this weekend goes,

because there's a lot of things to dissect with him

that we could get into.

Take more than 10 seconds.

So put on the list.

Maybe we can have the Anstey Whisperer guy call it.

That'd be good.

All right.

Last pick for D.V., Joe Shimoda.

Four.

Four.

Okay.

And come on, I want all three, four, 50 guys.

Thanks.

Thanks.

But you're four, 50 picked this week, Steve,

is Cooper Webb.

That's kind of a tough one.

Third.

Third for Webb.

Max Volland.

Oh, here we go.

Well, based on what I said earlier, first,

yeah, he actually, he actually rode pretty bad this week.

Point that out.

Hit it, hit it, hit it roughly week, holy week.

Look, I'm going to contradict myself

because I am team Devon and I really hope

he's the top club right of this weekend.

But this is a contest I want to win.

That's my heart says that.

My head says Max Volland will be the top club right.

And I want to beat Daniel in this contest, so I'll talk about,

I will go with sixth.

All right, P6 for Max.

And Daxon Benick.

Come on, man.

First of all, is Cochrane okay?

Do we know? Is anybody know?

I think he's raised to this weekend.

Okay, I think so.

I have a call scheduled with his dad tomorrow.

Nothing to do with Moto.

It's pretty cool.

With some planes, close by a plane.

No, no, but we should.

But no, just, anyways, just go ahead.

Okay.

How about this, Kellan?

Him and Dax are basically the same.

They're one number apart on the same team.

Can I have either one?

If D.V. wants to approve that, I guess.

I would be nervous if I were you of KC.

No, but what I'm saying is I said,

one of them will be around seventh.

And so, I can't, no, no, no, we're not playing that.

No, this game's bullshit.

Okay, Benic will go eighth.

All right, he's for Benic.

All right, all right, all right.

The fraud will be there in St. Louis this weekend.

Looking forward to that.

He gave me really steady guys this week.

Trust were the individuals.

So because he's scared of you, man.

He's scared of you.

It's true.

I've never thought in a year and a half.

And I did today and he's like, damn, he's got two of us

against him.

I've been a defender for a year and a half, Kellan.

You did me dirty, two weeks in a row just to see.

By the way, thanks for this continue to call me the fraud

because it's now becoming almost the number one thing

people ask.

Why do they call you the fraud?

Love it. It's terrible.

It's terrible, Nick Dave Steve.

No, I love it.

It's great.

Troy does like the least fraudulent person.

He maybe that's exactly why he's the fraud.

Yeah, it's like calling a fat guy skinny.

He's not the fraud,

he's the fraud.

Right.

Listen, I get called loser a lot.

I mean, Kellan, the worst thing can do, Kellan can get.

We have an LVK team dinner on Friday night, too,

by the way, looking forward to that.

If Kellan's not there, he's fired.

Troy designs race, tech, zool, seat concepts,

firepower, max, ASV levers, Namiara, stump grip,

all on board with us.

Thanks for watching.

A list and appreciate it.

Congrats to Devin Simonson.

300K a year deal from Club Mx.

It's great to see that kind of money being thrown around.

Like Club Mx. Yep, yep.

Hey, you pull off stunts like you did last week.

When I know you got the talent to do what you did

on that transfer slash frogger to your worth every penny, Devin.

Every penny.

Oh, I do have a point out.

We've gone an hour and 10 minutes into this show

and we almost made it Steve,

but I'm going to ruin the show right now.

Are you ready?

Mm-hmm.

Hayden Deegan just had to say his name.

We with the whole show.

Davies versus Deegan, everybody.

Buckle up.

I don't think it's a contest judging on the last showdown.

All right, we'll add one more minute to this thing.

I think that we're going to get a better version of the battle

because Cole's better Detroit was his best of all of his races.

He's better than he was.

But Hayden is the man for all you Deeganites out there

that loved to remind me of his stats.

You think I don't know him?

I'm like a big fan of his too.

I'm just a hype guy, right?

I want to see a Davies Deegan battle

because I like that stuff.

So, uh, and Davies, I just calm down, Deeganites.

Do you think with my staunch defense of Hayden

and his penalty that Brian comes up and thanks me this weekend?

I mean, maybe you took his side.

Maybe that's all it needed to clean it up.

We'll find out next Monday on the Pulp Show.

There we go.

Brian Deegan.

Thanks for watching, everybody.

In studio.

Yeah, in studio, exactly.

We're going to cover spikes on shoulder pads in next games.

Absolutely.

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Kellen, thank you, Daniel Barrett.

Thank you.

And we'll see you all next week, everybody.