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Hey gang, today is Friday. It's the 6th of March, 2026. Here's the poll question. On balance,
is it good or bad news that the Pentagon is using artificial intelligence on balance?
Is it good or bad news that the Pentagon is using artificial intelligence? Yesterday,
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Pentagon using artificial intelligence is the Pentagon not using AI. Yesterday, we had a lot of
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Is it good or bad news that the Pentagon is using artificial intelligence? Good
backgrounder from the Washington Post because when I discussed this on radio yesterday,
we were saying, well, exactly how is it being used in Iran? Okay, here's an illustration.
In order to strike a blistering thousand targets in the first 24 hours of its attack on Iran,
the US military leveraged the most advanced artificial intelligence it's ever used in warfare.
A tool that could be difficult for the Pentagon to give up even as it severed ties with the
company that created it. The military's Maven smart system, which is built by data mining company
Palantir is generating insights from an astonishing amount of classified data from satellites,
surveillance and other intelligence helping provide real-time targeting and target prioritization
to military operations in Iran, according to people familiar with the system.
It's embedded into the system with Anthropics AI tool Claude, a technology that was banned by
the Pentagon last week after heated negotiations over the terms of its use in war. So we talked
about this yesterday with a special guest, Michael Horowitz, Professor Horowitz from the University
of Pennsylvania. Claude was used in countering terror plots and in that raid that captured
Nicholas Maduro in Venezuela. But now Anthropic is on the outs with the Trump administration and who
or what is filling the void that would be ChatGPT. I mean, the major players in AI and
Anthropic, which has Claude, ChatGPT, Altman, which is controlled by OpenAI. Google Gemini is
another of them. Metta is another Google Deep Mind OpenAI. So I thought, well, this will be
interesting. Not learning from my lesson of yesterday, if you listen to the radio program or the
podcast, I thought, okay, Anthropic is now on the outs. And the president released a statement
about Anthropic. Let me just see if I can put my fingers on this. Yeah, I'll just pick it up
after, well, no, here's how it begins. The United States of America will never allow a radical
left woke company to dictate how our great military fights and wins wars. And then further along,
therefore, I'm directing every federal agency in the United States government to immediately cease
all use of Anthropics technology. So I went to Anthropic and I asked Anthropic, please explain
to me why Anthropic and the Pentagon has recently been in the news. What's this controversy
all about? What was Anthropics response? I don't have real-time access to news articles.
That's what they said to me. So I went to ChatGPT because now they're the new game in town,
and I asked ChatGPT the same question. Here's a good answer. The controversy you're seeing in
the news is essentially a high stakes fight over who controls how artificial intelligence can be
used in warfare. The US military or the AI companies building technology. I mentioned that yesterday
on the program, we had Michael Horowitz. By the way, one of the thing, people are now leaving.
Many are leaving ChatGPT because, you know, they perceive, this is from Forbes. They perceive
Anthropic having a fallout with the administration as being a good thing like, hey, I'm going to leave
ChatGPT and go to Anthropic. Quote, open AI's decision to let the US Department of Defense deploy
the company's AI models and its classified network has created a backlash. Many users are
reportedly leaving ChatGPT and switching to Anthropics Clawed instead following Anthropics
refusal to give the US government unrestricted access to its models.
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Michael Horowitz is the director of Perry Worldhouse and the Richard Perry professor at Penn,
also a senior fellow for technology and innovation on the council and foreign relations.
And yesterday was a guest on the program and I asked him for some background in terms of
how it had been used, how artificial intelligence by Anthropic had been used.
How was artificial intelligence provided by Anthropic used in the Maduro raid as far as we know?
We don't we don't know for sure but what we can what we can glean from publicly available sources
is that the Maduro all of America's combatant commands which are different regions of the world where
there's a one US military leader, one general or admiral who's in charge. They all have access
to a platform called Maven Smart System which is run by Palantir and fuses together lots of
different sources of information. Think data from satellites and data from human intelligence sources
and like data from like the slap of the internet like et cetera, et cetera.
One of the inputs into that now is Claude. And the Claude was like as far as we know,
probably doing maybe doing everything from like helping American leaders involved in the
in the operation like understand what the chatter looked like in Venezuela while the operation
was going on to maybe doing some simulations of what possible outcomes would would look like.
But we generally, well, we don't know for sure. The thing that I'm extremely confident about
is it was not used for any kind of autonomous targeting or warfare.
Again, Michael Horowitz from Penn got a PhD from Harvard, a BA from Emory University
and is expert in these matters and has worked at the Pentagon. He served as deputy assistant
secretary of defense for force development and the emerging capabilities and director of
emerging capabilities policy office. I also asked him to tell me, okay, like wherein lies
the controversy? What exactly was the issue here relative to mass surveillance and whether
machines would make decisions instead of humans? Here's what he said. What I've read is mass
surveillance that andthropic was had concerns in terms of how their technology would be used for
that purpose, but also autonomous weapons, meaning where a human wasn't involved, they were concerned
about that technology too. Can you help me understand and explain that?
Sure. On the mass surveillance side, the concern is that just like artificial intelligence can
help process information much faster like pull the signal out from the from the noise,
there's been concern that with large de-anonymized data sets that LLM tools like Claude could be used
essentially to de-anonymize them, giving the government information about us that they otherwise
shouldn't have. I'll be honest, I worry about that a lot more from other government agencies than
I do from the Pentagon, but that could just be me. On the autonomous weapon side,
I think an important thing to understand here is that people really underestimate the degree of
autonomy that's already in weapon systems. The Pentagon's been using autonomous weapon systems
like basically for 40 years, things like radar-guided missiles, like the closing weapon systems that
defend ships. What Anthropic was saying was not that they had a philosophical objection to autonomous
weapons. What they were saying is that large language models are not ready for prime time,
but that task and shouldn't be used for it. And frankly, as the person that helped draft the
Pentagon's policy on autonomous weapons systems, they're absolutely right about that. You would use
a deterministic algorithm, like an old school kind of algorithm to do something like that,
trained on a very specific data set like Chinese fighters or Russian tanks, not like Claude
trained on the internet. He's the man. He's the expert. He gets it. He helped draft the Pentagon's
policy, as he said, on autonomous weapons. I stand where I began, which is to say the only
thing worse than the Pentagon using AI is the Pentagon not using AI, but I want to hear from you.
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