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This is not just limited to the MCU
You've got so there's a plethora of marvel tv shows throughout and we're just going to go
Give our list kind of cross reference see what things that we have the same what's different and go from there
so
Mr. Heinz as our guest I will let you start off if you have any honorable mentions
You're muted sir
I
Have four honorable mentions
David I was going to say like we're going to leave this for just before the end or now which is good
I have miss marvel
Legion
X-man evolution and what if as my honorable mentions
Nice I I have three honorable mentions. I have what if as well
Luke Cage and ultimate spider-man
That first season Luke Cage was really good
But I had a higher time balancing some of this stuff if like they had a good one good season one bad
Like Jessica Jones did make the list, but the first season that was really good
Yeah, um if if Luke Cage could have just stuck that landing just a little bit
I think it would be be higher on my list, but yeah
So go ahead with your number 10. No, I want to say too that this can go
uh
This show could fall off my top 10 depending on how this next season goes because
It's only here right now. It was daredevil born again, and there's a distinction for me
I don't account it as one full property and you'll see that later on that line
So daredevil born again. I really enjoyed the them jumping back into it
I had some qualms about some of the stuff that we saw but for the most part
I really enjoyed seeing daredevil back something I didn't think was going to happen
So that alone made me happy and
Just him and Kagan Pan just getting more scenes with those two people those two characters and the actors that play him
Yeah top-notch. So that that got to make my list
Yeah, I'm excited. We got just under two weeks until season two returns and all of its glory and greatness again
I'm hoping that they can write that momentum they they had a a couple of stumbles with
The first season of born again
But I think that for the stumbles that they made the stuff with Muse and other things
I think that they did amazing job bringing back Frank Castle and some of the other aspects of it the
Way that the camera would change with Matt's vision and are listening and honing skills changing like that was super cool
So yeah, that was definitely a good one
Yes, and people complain about it like we're not watching iron fist or anything here like listen to relax
We don't have to sit through the meatchums board rooms and stuff
Like god knows how long like that's why people complain
It's like remember I bet it wasn't one point. So yeah, yeah
All right my number 10 and I'm going to start off in the animated realm is the spectacular spider-man
Oh, I give you credit for that and I may discuss some of that later
Yeah, um, I was such a fan of this show
and I
I'm sad that it only got two seasons. I feel like there could have been so much more with it
But like with most spider-man animated shows like they don't really get to live out their story very well
But then the animation was fun. It felt like it
Had a lot of tones that felt true to the spider-man lore and really just based off of the old school stuff with Stanley and
John Ramirez senior and just really diving into like that good age of amazing spider-man comics
Oh, I love it. It's okay. I can't wait to talk about it. Leave a little bit that in line
Yeah
So all right number nine for you
Number nine for me is the defenders
This was something that I could not wait for when it when it was like leading up to this and I still think that
Their hallway fight is one of one of the better action scenes
That we've gotten
And yeah, I think that all the characters miss well like when Matt finally puts on the costume and interrogate that guy
It's all super cool. I just love that. I thought it was excellent
And I I didn't have as much issues with it as most people. I thought that was great. It was great
It was not beardable, but still I thought it was fantastic
Yeah
It that's another one of those shows where you know people either really really love it or really
Hate it. I I thoroughly enjoyed it. I love Sigourney Weaver in that show like I I liked a lot in my mind
That is the best version of Arnfist that we had in there
You know, he was a lot less whiny than normal. He still had his moments
But the I think it's working together as a team was great
David I think he's he's shine the best when he was whenever he was around Luke Cage
Like I think that those two actors and that that really worked well
I wish we would have got a hero more of a heroes for hire but even seeing them together in their richer
Their own shows. I thought that was great, too
Yeah, I it was as good episode a great ending to to the series like and it led very well into continuing
I think with that
When the moments between Matt and Jessica like them arguing over him wearing a scarf on his head
And I was like you look ridiculous and he goes well
It's your scarf like those moments between those two characters like I really liked it and that's why they're she's coming back like
That's definitely why so yeah
All right
My number nine is again staying animated Wolverine and the X-Men
I've got to have it put in that one out near too. I was it was going to put my
Automatius but I put X-Men evolution there instead
Yeah, X-Men evolution is a great one put Wolverine and the X-Men like it had an entirely
different tone and setup to it you start off with this big explosion
Charles Xavier's missing
Wolverine's you know like leading this the way that
And a lot of different things we've had the X-Men listed as a whole but a lot of people just gravitated towards Wolverine
And this one it's like all right. Here we are. We're giving you a Wolverine project with the X-Men involved and
Yeah, I absolutely loved it. I love the animation style of it. I
Steven Bloom as the voice of Wolverine is always amazing. So yeah, that is sitting right now my number nine and much like your previous one
Dodd too soon like was and it fired too soon like still has so much meat on that bone for storytelling. It was so sad
So my number eight is I'm gonna stay in the world of animation and it's your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man
I absolutely adored the series. I adored how it was animated the way it looked the whole story
I thought was great how it came back to Spider-Man basically making his own origin story
I just thought that was pretty pretty fun and just how we talked to Dr. Strange with Arthur
But everything about the like the way they went with Lonnie like I just
Every character was treated really good and it was a really enjoyable show and I can't wait for the next season
Yeah
I love that show. I have rewatched it once fully already
I'm looking forward to where they go next. I have a feeling with where I think they're going to go
That it will move up on my list very quickly and very highly if they continue this trajectory for season two
Agreed agreed
All right, number eight for me is Jessica Jones
um
It that there is definitely some points of this show that falter
But as a whole it is just amazing and I mean
Just you can watch season one especially be hooked and
Going back it that helps cover up some of the falters of the rest of season. I think
My biggest gripe about Jessica Jones was
Her sister and her sister's character arc that just
Increasingly annoyed me, but I could get over that because all the other moments were super cool
Jessica really got a good time to shine her smartness her witness everything about this character was amazing
So I would listen to anyone's argument that this was the best
Would see the moment was the best season of Marvel television like I'd listen to any arguments anyone want to have
I don't know if I'd agree, but there's definitely a case to be made for that first season. I have like it was amazing especially the villain
Yeah, David Tinnett did an amazing job in this show and yeah
I loved her character. I love the arcs that they took her on just everything about like her smart acidness just
She was and she had that strong
Powerfulness to her with everything that was going on the stuff with in
Subsequent seasons with her mom and everything like that finding out more about her past and where she came from
It was just it was good stuff and for that to be
Daredevil came out very strong with their thing
But then pivot to go to Jessica Jones who is a much less known character in the mainstream community
And then have her just knock it out the park like that was really good
And yeah, she really got big like she really like that first season like she was a like I remember that exploding and people love that
Uh
My number what are we doing number six is seven. Yes, seven
Ten eight seven is Loki
So I people might be shocked at how low Loki is on my list, but
uh
You've you didn't factor in animation. It would be this will be the third highest live action show that I have here. So
Uh bit of hint of what's coming was coming, but I really enjoy the two seasons. I really good both of them like is that a foul
It's not that much of a foul eye and the connection
I did not know I would love the connection between Loki and Mosby as much as the story more obvious as my
Mobius story as much as I did like I absolutely
Like I'm here for that whole and I said that we might not ever see them together again
um
I would go ahead and just sit right now. That's actually uh number seven on my list as well
So we are we are right in line with that like again
I love that Tom Hedleston returning having this new but not new version of Loki like his interactions with Sylvie first
The tension like leading up through season one and then coming back for season two
I really like the stuff that they did um it's
Unfortunate on multiple levels what happened with Jonathan majors because I feel like from an actor and tv show perspective
They had amazing chemistry. They're really going somewhere um
The art itself what was good art now the man and everything outside of that
You you got to pay your opinions for the actions that you take in life
Completely understandable and I stand by marvel and disney a hundred percent with that
But for the art itself those gentleman had great chemistry
This show is really going somewhere and I love the way that this series ended because it could take Loki the character
As a whole and put him back in the MCU with real stakes to be brought back in for something else
I think he's in backhand to be sacrificed in one of these movies to screw everything up, but we'll see about that
Yeah, we begin we both are right if such a good show
The next one for me is
Spiderman the anime series
That had to go on there. It was my first basic introduction to Marvel and not only just like
Marvel Spider-Man, but I got the whole shabang from that like you got to see the X-Men you got to see
I think spot I watched Spiderman first and then X-Men. I'm pretty sure maybe I watched one or two X-Men episodes but not like
Watching it weekly. I watched Spiderman weekly and yeah, it was I still is the voice I hear when I read the comics
Still to me to this day is that Spiderman and Peter Parker and yeah
I know when you watch it back now something stuff a little silly with the like blasters and guns
But it's still not too bad doesn't especially that final season
The story arcs that they went off on and like doom and basically they did into the Spider-Verse before into the Spider-Verse
Which again? I love it and yeah
It introduced me to so many of new ideas like and different ideas in Marvel that I had no idea about as a young kid
So yeah, it definitely still holds a part is nostalgia of straying on this pick, but yes, I still love it
Yeah, all right listeners. I want to say this eight hours ago. I got a message that said
I don't think there will be much overlap
Yeah, I say that to say my next pick is also Spider-Man the animated series. We did not compare this before
I have no idea what the one is on his list
That show made my childhood. I collected the figures. That's how like I learned about so many things that you had
The clone saw you had the stuff with Ben Riley other there were some moments that you know
Or a little bit out of out of left field and there were some moments that
Were a little bit cheesy. You know the stuff with Hydro Mary Jane and things like that
So that there were some moments, but as a kid watching this growing up
It was just it was everything that I wanted at the time. I was eight years old when this show started for me
So I I was all in that this was how I spent my time just watching this and then that theme song was just
Incredible and and still is today, so let's also not forget how amazing the alien costume
Three parter wasn't that first season like that. I was like what is like a black Spider-Man like
A lot like you've bigger and bad more bad-ass than the Rachel's photo. This is awesome
Like and how you terrorize them. Oh my god. What a conclusion for that first season. It was it was awesome
Yeah, I can't believe you picked that. That's hilarious. That's yeah, I can't believe you say number too
As the kid who at the time was only sporadically being able to get my hands on comics and things like that at the time
like without this show
I would not have known of the hobgoblin
I would not have known of Alistair smith all these different things. I mean you had
Kingpin looking big and brutish and that is the tone for which
Like all Kingpins after that were just like you know that that look right there you had the
only good version of
Michael Morbius
Had to have the suckers in his hands because that's the song that that wouldn't happen if this was made nowadays because you wouldn't have the
Like you could connoissellate well you wouldn't need show it
But you wouldn't have to say that he didn't drink blood
So yeah, but again, it's to it stands to test it how I've been my opinion and the amount of crossovers that this show had
The amount of other stars that got pulled into it um
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So that that definitely ranks it up there. It's it's a nostalgia pick for sure
But it is a good pick because i mean that that show it is really just really amazing
Yes, and but i i can paint me to say to my number five
I watched it later. I didn't think it would be better
But when i watched that i was thoroughly impressed is Avengers Earth's mighty heroes
It's easily the best
Avengers take in my opinion and there isn't a wasted episode
The fact that they're all separate bring them together kind of like the movie did
And yeah, it turned out a bad voice actor
It again really enjoyed it and it too soon another one knows that
It's just like spectacular spotter man died at the altar of the Disney
acquisition of
The marital stuff and Sony lost the rights to
Live action just like spectacular spotter man and they went with Avengers assembled which is
somewhat enjoyable, but just a very big downgrade from Avengers Earth's mighty heroes
Yeah
I am screenshoting and sending you something on twitter just for
Proof of its sake don't open it now
But um, yeah, that is actually next on my list as well
So that's three in a row where we have like a absolutely in sync and i'm sending you a time stamp proof that that that is
Exactly where i was
I just said the same thing. I just said the same thing to you
So um
Yeah, that I like two hours ago my time snap so yeah
Uh, I like that show like it was it was so great. I I like both Avengers shows that were put out
But this one just it resonated with me a lot more um
I love the design of the costumes it gave it that that
Real comic book feel especially Thor like I love Thorny had the he the cape in the broad shoulders
Coming this iteration of Hulk ever like this version of Hulk
I've seen in any live action or animation is the best
Yes
So like I I was a huge fan of that um a good showing by like the way that they did Clint Barton and everyone else and
if I remember correctly like this
predates the
the
full on Avengers
So yeah
I said I I very much
enjoyed it. I enjoyed their their battles with Loki and enchantress and everything else and
Coming out of that and then we had dr. Doom we had red skull and
All these other aspects the stuff that they had things if they haven't got to do on the big screen
But they really got to have those centralized stories
It's a shame that it didn't last much longer, but we got 52 episodes. I think of it
So, you know if you've got time go ahead and rewatch it. It's a great show
Yeah, again, I just it it makes me hard it makes harder for me to enjoy vendor disemble knowing that they just
Scrap this show to make that show more kid-friendly show instead of doing the same thing that X-Men the animated series and stuff did for us
We were younger, which was multiple episodes story arcs and trying to make it like the storytelling a bit higher up for it
Yeah
Okay, so what are we on now? We're getting through this list. Oh, okay
So we don't we're not sharing okay, so for me the next one is X-Men the animated series slash X-Men 97
I'm combining them because you have a continuation and is is not like daredevil
It's not too distinctly different like the characters still do the same things everything still applies
There's no like some of this stuff like we talk about some of this we don't so yeah, I
I loved X-Men 97 I'm shocked to how good it was
To pleasantly surprised as listeners came remember and some of the episodes that I joined you guys to talk about
This stuff with my own alliance and yeah, I can't wait for this next season. It's
The lot of stuff that could happen and I one of my factor fictions
Uh
pertains to that
Yeah
X-Men 97 is on my list. It's a little bit uh
Higher up, but yeah nice. It's
X-Men and X-Men 97 together. It's just it is an incredible show. I remember having
The quenget as a toy and collected them in like again this this was all I was into you had
The old school the suits that just looked so comic accurate and
All these various storylines like they went everywhere with their storylines um
If you go back and watch it now, especially if you watch the original X-Men series
It is fun because you can kind of see some of the lapses and animation where they made some shortcuts
So you will see it see a still frame and then like a cut out of a mouth moving and things like that
But um, I mean, it's it's still a fun show to watch to this day um made me really fall in love with a lot of characters
even more and want to
Get more involved with the X-Men from just seeing these I'm like I remember vividly still the first time morph came back
And it was just like oh man. Yeah, where are we going from here? So the phoenix saga done the best in that so far
uh
Yeah, it's again, it's
It stands a test of time those two shows flying with Batman the animated series
It's just just a little higher level for some of the stuff. Yeah
um
Number four for me is Wanda vision um
I remember watching this and just being blown away each week by what they were doing
I was a it was new it was fresh. It was something that we hadn't seen from Marvel
But it in the grand scheme of things it made sense with that character
And where they were going like you had the funny moments you had the fourth wall breaking moments
I mean I'll even excuse the whole Ralph boner thing, but all of that like it was great
But then you have Catherine Hahn who was just
Amazing in this show for someone that was
Started out the first couple episodes of oh, this is the the funny sidekick never to
evolving to Agatha and the
climactic battles just like man that this is so so good and then the things at that show dealt with
the moments between
vision and Wanda the
grief everlasting speech like all these things just it it was a great show and
Marvel that they took a risk with
How they were doing this, but I think that risk definitely paid off
Oh, I agree yet. I didn't it didn't make my eye tapped in list
uh
But I just I didn't enjoy all of it, but I didn't enjoy some of it
But I can recognize how well done it wasn't how unique it was from Arvel
And the MCU so yeah, you got to give it as flowers for sure
Yeah
My number three is the Punisher and I don't know if I need to say a whole lot more about the Punisher because it's that great
John Bernthal really nailed this iteration of the character and
Yeah, I can't wait to see what we get going forward with that character with special feature and seeing him show up in brand new day
Which trailer leaks half the trailer leaks right now
Watch it on the internet people so
Not a full trailer just half of it
Yeah, um
Punisher's my number three as well like that's another one that we are definitely aligned on
I was always a fan of Thomas James Punisher the same movie
With John Travolta and for the longest time I was like man that really embodied the Punisher and then this came along and
Everything you can tell John Bernthal like you hear him in interviews
But you can just tell by his performance like he cares about this character
He cared about making it right he cared about making it layered
So it's not just the crazy killer man with you know the guns and the van and everything else like
He added a whole lot of depth to this character
From him playing off of daredevil and their show to then having his own and
They just an amazing set pieces with the shootout scenes and the actions
Him when he jumps out the van takes off the jacket and he yells russo
As season two when they're robbing the bank like all these great moments you had these other
Threats and storylines going with agent Mondani and other things like that like it was just a really really good show
And one of the major lessons I learned was never not make frank a sandwich
If there's stuff there to make a sandwich, he's gonna want a sandwich
That was one of the times I just laughed as I didn't know where it was
Oh, and I just love two of those guys interacting
So yeah, I really love that show too. So good choice for three
My number two is going to be different because you've ever used it and it's easily the best Marvel animated
Thing that's existed and it is I was I never thought I'd say it until I watched
This a few years ago for the first time through a full way through
spectacular Spider-Man
It's outstanding
They were great in all of the storylines. This is basically their first
They're training heroes before they went to young justice
I think the same people who did this did young justice. So
That one was great as well
And I just say that because I wish we could have seen how more of these storylines would have played out going forward and the fact that
This was another one of the awesome anime shows that was just tossed to the side when
Disney acquired Marvel
It just makes me sad sometimes that we got
Another version although my son loves Spider-Man and his amazing friends or spidery spotty and his friends
So I guess did he's doing something right
But yeah, I love this show. It was great
Yeah, I said I said earlier to such great show with with we would have had more of it
But yeah, awesome show
My number two we've already talked about it is X-Men the animated series again
Just building off of the shared universe that was started within
Spider-Man the animated series had some great. I absolutely love the crossover episode old soldiers with
Wolverine and Captain America
Animation style was a bit better. I think that was one of the different animation houses that they used
But again, I love that story
Yeah, just telling you know some of the old things with that so many other great stories would
In here and how they took stuff and from the comic books and translated it through
You had the Jim Lee art style like you has the first time it was ever done because
Batman the anime series didn't do it. They just did one episodes like nobody did four episode parts or five
It was though the pirate for three and that they were afraid the kids would lose interest
You wouldn't keep their concentration. So like you said like this is this is
A crazy show in terms of land breaking like no other anime show tried this before
Yeah, like again the phoenix saga lasted for the majority of season three like for a show to go that this is what we're gonna
Stick to this. This is what we're gonna do. This is my first introduction to omega red
And I was like absolutely obsessed with that character afterwards
I remember like always wanting to get his toys and stuff like that
So they're trip to the savage land and seeing these parts of the X-Men
It was just it was a great show
So from the moment it started when we meet a young Jubilee getting saved by the X-Men and seeing
The sacrifice of what's going on there to everything else inner magneto
And just all these moments where I was like yeah, this this is good stuff
Said it to Lynette decline from big copy coach who voiced Jubilee
My number one
We knew we would get here. It's Daredevil brackets Netflix
Because there is a distinction
I'm sorry, but the first season of Daredevil born again was not as good as some of the seasons of Daredevil on Netflix
Season two. I might be able to listen to an argument
But because that was just as much defenders set up as anything else
But I love the first season Daredevil it changed the game for television
For counter television it to hallway fight scenes the action to one shots
And then you get in the season two with the punish her him and Punisher scene might be the one of the better
comic book scenes in all television
When they're up on the roof and having that whole debate and that whole season
Part of that with the punishers great the whole hand stuff is a little bit like
wacky at a certain point, but
The third season's great too. So yeah, this was
This was groundbreaking when it came out and it didn't
It for all three seasons. I put it up against any other marble
My back from property. Yeah, I definitely agree. I mean, I tell people all the time who have not watched it or who think by watching like
Start watching it get through episode four by the end of episode four
You're gonna decide whether you want to stick with it or not because I remember when I first watched it and you get to that
Cardore scene
With Wilson Fiss and I was like oh yeah, I'm like oh this is this is something else and so all of
Episode one our all of season one was good the playoff of
Matt and foggy and everything else those were awesome
The build up to Daredevil being in the costume it felt earned like you got these moments
That that worked up to that costume felt earned season two is just it's amazing
You have the introduction of the punisher you have all these moments where they're in there
They're back and forth about what's right and what's wrong and everything going on with Wilson Fiss who's in prison at this point
But still leading things from behind it again every season had their incredible one shots and then we have
Season three the way that it ended with bullseye and Wilson Fiss and the
I beat you and
Looking in his face and getting hauled off by the police like it was just it was absolutely
Amazing with that and I I think they did not waste any of their characters
There were times when
Karen would get a little bit like all right
What are you doing here?
But then she even got a redemption she got her own story where we learn why she is the way she is why the stuff from season one affected her so much her family history
It was just it was good stuff and this was also during the time of
full-day drops when Netflix would be like here's your show go enjoy it
We'll see in a couple of years and
So to just sit there and I remember taking off work and watching it and just being absolute like I got to keep going
I got to watch every single episode like I don't want to walk away from this
Can't say one other thing shout out to Brent on his previous podcast fan for those borders where he
He would literally have to watch to full 10 episodes of all these marital Netflix shows most of them
I think you might end it before all of them and like get out in podcast about it in a couple days
Like I was impressed but I had much like my job was to catch up before the podcast episode would come out
That was basically my thing so shout out to him for that old maritalized host
As much as I love what I do. I could not imagine a
13
Episode drop of one hour shows like it worked with
I think echo was the last one that really did all of the episodes in one day iron heart had to split up
Between theirs, but yeah, I don't think I could do a 13 episode drop and make that commitment and say all right
I'm gonna knock all of these out
And I'm gonna do it more than one time because I have to have my enjoyment viewing then I have to have my review viewing
And and get there so so shout out to the gentleman who've done it before me and had to get through those, but yeah
I
It was super amazing and it really set the tone for all of
The Marvel Netflix going forward which then
You have people for years clamoring to have these characters back like look we get that the next flex thing is over
But give us these characters back. So when we first saw
I met Murdoch when
Inspire man and people pop for that and then oh, it's coming back. It's getting its own show
And now oh we're bringing John Bernthal back. Oh, we're you know bringing other people back
You're gonna have you're just good Jones back and all this speculation now like you can tell the impact that this show left
Oh 100% again, I'm excited for season two. We can't wait for a couple weeks to go by here now and we can get that
yep
All right, so that is our our top 10 likes that we we had some that were the same and some that were just
ones that
Have fun memories of but didn't crack my top 10 and vice versus some that as we talk about it
It's just is the remembering like oh man that that was a really really good show
All right, so uh before we get into our news where you're going to take our first ad break
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Okay, so
In the news we've had two small little news bits uh first of which was the
I'm going to call it the final teaser trailer. It's not a full trailer, but it is a teaser
Entitled calls trouble
For Daredevil again coming out we got just under two weeks left with that and
I'm very excited about that. So I'm going to play this trailer
For our audio listeners. There's not going to be any volume. Don't want to get any copyright strikes or anything like that
But we will look at it talk about it and
Here we go. So
So it starts with a good look at both uh Matt in his new black suit and Jessica
When she says hey, do you want to call some trouble? We get a
A nice up close shot of the double d Daredevil suit the black and red with the red
Double d clearly defined on there
Cut to a shot of bullseye in a
cafe
Followed by him doing something split between some incredible action shots of bullseye and daredevil both just doing their
Acrobatics and both going through and showing like all right this is the bullseye we remember
Bouncing these things off and going through and it it's super cool
We get a look at
Some other new characters from this show Wilson Fisk
More looks at Jessica Jones in her fighting style. I mean she kicks the guy across a room
More shots of Wilson Fisk and what we presume is a celebrity boxing tournament
Where he just completely
Bludgeon's a guy with his fist
We get some shots of Debra and Wolf's Karen page getting in on the action
More of bullseye and daredevil and just a reminder that again this show is streaming on
March 24th so
Super excited about it, you know that they're showing that yes, this is going to be
Very action-heavy there's gonna be all a lot of cool moments
I'm I'm excited like we've the fights between daredevil and bullseye from season three of the Netflix show to
The opening fight with last season and now this one like they they put on some good back and forth
Oh, yeah, and I'm excited to see
This show I tell you one thing the other hasn't been much promotion like I haven't seen a whole lot
Like a couple trailers, but I haven't seen as much discussion as I would hope
So I I'm very interested to see
How that's how this show is gonna be like a season three confirmed like they haven't filmed it yet, right?
Right um as as far as I know then um
It is just it's been confirmed
But I haven't seen any behind the scenes stuff. I haven't seen any screens grabs or anyone
Who's on location and getting pictures from a high window or anything else yet, but we're we're definitely going to be coming back for more
I do wonder if certain rumors are true. They are going to wait until after
Spider-Man to do some filming as so that nothing gets spoiled character-wise
Okay
All right
Next up we there are rumors circulating right now that
Spider-Man and Wolverine are going to have a team-up movie
Marvel Studios and Sony are reportedly interested in developing a Spider-Man and Wolverine team-up movie potentially following the massive success of Deadpool and Wolverine
If it happens it would mark the first live action crossover between the two iconic Marvel characters
It's currently unclear whether Hugh Jackman will return his Wolverine, but we all know he's here till he's 90
Or which Spider-Man could appear whether it be Tom Holland Andrew Garfield Toby McGuire
All possible thanks to the multiverse or someone completely new nothing is confirmed yet
But the idea of Spider-Man and Wolverine sharing a big screen has fans excited now. I know
um
With the Sony and Marvel usage deal that if they are going to have a crossover
It has to have you know the the same characters
So I would assume that if they're going to do a crossover movie then yes, we it would be Hugh Jackman and
um
Tom Holland unless they absolutely just decide to pivot with the next movies and replace both those actors which again
Till he's 90. I don't see them doing that. What what are your thoughts on this possible
showing?
I'm not sure I don't know I don't see I can see Hugh Jackman doing the Avengers movies, but I don't know how much more
He's going to do after that like eventually they're going to have to find their own Wolverine actors starting with the X-Men post
Avengers films in the MCU so I don't know to be honest with you
I don't know if that would confuse people is kind of part of the Batman problem that they have right now
Or well what people think they have right now
Uh, I would be excited. I would be the first one and they'll see it obviously like anyone would love to see Spiderman and Wolverine in a film, but
I'm going to be a little apprehensive about that it because of the Sony part of the if Disney own both characters
Then I would agree with you after the money they made with Deadpool and Wolverine we'd be getting
A Spiderman and Wolverine team up for sure, but where Sony's involved. I'm still not sure like it gives me a bit more
Puzz to this room. I would love for it to happen across my toes my fingers, but I don't know
Yeah, it's it's a nice thought. I would wonder if the way that
Wolverine was portrayed in the last movie it would be hard to then scale that back for the family friendly neighborhood Spiderman
agreed
So um again it nothing is confirmed yet. It's it's speculation. It's a
Rumor that has been floating around by a lot of sources. So we shall see what they go from there again if it
I don't see it happening, but if it does I'm going to be one of the first one butts and seats getting my
5 p.m. On a Thursday ticket to sit there and watch
Yeah, let's cross our fingers and hope that this it's film actually helped out because it will be awesome
Yeah, so
But if any more news about this comes out we'll keep you guys posted or if any more news as a whole comes out again
We got less than two weeks before daredevil
So this is a time when Marvel likes to go quiet, but who knows something can happen
And we will just keep you guys informed on any and everything that we get our hands on
So that is our news um
I'll say when it comes to uh
We didn't get any feedback or questions this week, which is fine um
Said if you have any questions that you want on the show and you feedback anything else reach out to us on
Twitter acts um email the show yet
submit your questions and we'll be more than happy to answer them discuss some go down the well or tell you why you are
Completely off base if you just decide to come at us with something crazy. So
All right
And with that, let's head into our factor fiction, which I'm going to pull up the results of
Last or two weeks ago
And these were uh
Crisis factor fiction. So factor fiction number one in Avengers Doomsday the X-Men
Have successfully overcome a number of incursions already, but with heavy losses
Each time
75% said fact
25% say fiction mr. Hines. What say you fact
Yeah
All right factor fiction number two
Inspireman brand new day the hand will be working for tombstone
63% say fact 37% say fiction
fiction
And factor fiction number three
Inspireman brand new day
tombstone will survive and escape being captured at the end of the movie
80% say fact and 20% say fiction
I have to go with the numbers on this one and say fact as well. Yeah
so
All right, sir
It is your time as the guest host. What do you got for us?
I want to say what an honor it is as the guest host to have to come out with the factor fictions after 288 episodes
By factor fictions there there will not be another season of Miss Marable
Oh
I am
Unfortunately, I would love I love a mon velani, but I I am going to have to say
That yeah, that's a fact there will not be another season of Miss Marable
Spiderman will have a speaking role in the next season of X-Men 97
He came here old twice in the last one, but not there of them. We're speaking
Two episodes he was in as Peter Parker and one in Spiderman, but he's going to have a speaking role in the next season
I am going to go fact on that and I think that they will
Use that hopefully maybe possibly as a bridge to bringing back Spiderman the animated series in its own continuation
I hope so. I hope that's the case and moon night will not appear in Avengers. Doomsday
Preasure he wasn't on the list of 8,000 chairs, but I didn't watch that
But I'm pretty sure you guys talked about that. I don't think he was one of those chairs
So I'm going to say he's not appearing in Avengers. Doomsday
Um off the top of my list. I do not remember
Oscar being on that list
So I will I will go fact
On that because yeah, I
I don't see it happening
I love
The character I hope that we can get more of moon night
But this may be something that they save for secret wars like so they they ended his show with
The ability to him going into another season. I don't think that second season is now going to happen
But I would at least like to see the character come back and
Make at least some sort of appearance
Maybe apocalypse will show up in
Doomsday
Oh
You know if that's if that's the way that they do it to give us guys his back then
I'll I'll be for it. Just please
Don't have any billboards of him choking anybody. We don't want that smoke again
Imagine if he actually shows up like they expand the anime series version of the apocalypse like with the voice and
See looks all bad. I asked you like oh my god redemption
Like gambit
So those are our affector fictions those will be posted this Sunday for you all to vote on on
So go make your voices heard
Again, you can also use that time to
Provide us with some feedback either on the factor fictions or on
Any questions concerns in general
If you have a factor fiction yourself you want to throw out there for us to use by all means go ahead and do so again
We are very close to 300 episodes and sometimes it is really hard to come up with the factor fiction and try and think
Have I already used this before so it make your voices known these will be posted Sunday to
The Marvel podcast Twitter
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All right, so we do have a post credits and this is an easy one super easy for you
we did
Chris and I did our
ranking of
we took all the
Marvel properties from the multiverse saga and dwindle it down to our top 10 to watch before doomsday
What I'm asking is a whole lot simpler. What are your three most watched projects before vinders doomsday
This could be anywhere on the mcu timeline just your
Three projects that you think I'd you need to go ahead and watch this before doomsday
I
Don't even know on where to begin there um
I think my big events got high on avengers one
And avengers
If any born in game and maybe that's the three I have a thing. I'm a little concern about avengers doomsday
Uh, I'm worried that it's going to be giant cameo fast
filled with cameos. I'm getting very big uh
Crisis on the earth vibes from dcc w which I absolutely loved it and I was so excited for
So like I got a feeling somebody's cameos aren't going to be very long
And that was one thing that brought it me was like why are you bringing people in to get rid of them in two or three minutes
Like shouldn't they be essential to the story instead of being some random. Oh, I played robin
Batman six six years ago, and I'm going to look up to the sky and say oh gee will it hurts as the earth implodes like that
That they did nothing for the story and that's basically what that cameo fest was and that's why I'm a little worried
I was going to send this question into you guys to discuss like are you worried at all that this could be like the
Someone cameos could take away from the overall story or not contribute to the story at all
Just be cameos for be like hey look at this person look at that person
uh
Lewis Pullman who plays a bob from
Also known as the century from thunderbolts said that this will not be a cameo fest
I absolutely do not believe him. I I was gonna say people who are part of the cameo festival
I do get what you're saying. I think the analogy of the crisis on infinite earth is an excellent analogy where yes
This could be the whole
You played this thing at one time they will get the girl who was the waitress from the first avengers back just to be the callback of up up
Remember her like random things like that I
As much as Chris Evans will come back for three minutes like time willing came back for three minutes being like oh
Oh, what oh you don't even have powers. Oh great. Okay. Yeah. Thank you guys. Okay. Bye. Thanks for showing up and throwing a rock
I'm running away
As much as I love a good cameo or Easter egg. I don't want it to be
So heavy that I have to rewatch this movie three or four times so I can try and spot every little detail that they put in there
Just for nostalgia sake also like some people might say like Loki might be pivotal to watch
For this like just other things. I'm just saying if you've not watched anything at all
I would probably watch the Avengers films to get me ready for the next Avengers film
Yeah, I think that that is that that's a good shout
And I left out Ultron because I still enjoy the film
But I think if I'm picking out of the four that one's gonna fall if you only get three
I I can agree that from a storytelling and for what matters for what's coming up that
Age of Ultron is probably the weaker of the Avengers movies and that right so yeah, no, I definitely
Get you on that one. So
That that's a good shout in we got the Avengers and we've got
Avengers they wore an in game and I wanted to do stuff like Loki or you could even say like fantastic for the final
Post-Predancy the very pivotal to know what's going on
But that's not gonna be why I would recommend to watch fantastic for right now if it's nothing else would apply to
Tell you what's gonna happen in doomsday
Yeah, so
All right, let's just go watch those watch go back watch what was on our list of 10
Multiverse saga projects to watch it do that one instead blind go with theirs. Yeah
You know, just do an entire MC you rewatch
That way you you are fully in tune to everything you have got some time
It's not like we've got you know any good trailers out that we know what's gonna be in the movie set
So you got some time so go go ahead watch that again where you are hoping that next week
We might have some information on new Spider-Man. We're on our march towards season two of
Daredevil born again, and I look forward to
Sing and talking with you all later
See you

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