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If someone's churning up at an auction or they're about to negotiate on a property, where
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are the common applications for your field to help someone who's about to go this weekend
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to negotiate on a property?
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Yeah, so first thing, obviously I say to people is realize that buying a property is an
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How many times have you walked into a house and you've got a list of things that you're
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You've got a frozen cons list and these are the muster haves and these are my trade-offs
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and you're walking to a house and go, this is it, I don't care, this is the one, you know,
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and then that's your aid talking right and all of a sudden the priority is because at the
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window you pay whatever you want for that property because it's sometimes it makes sense,
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particularly when you're going to live in that property.
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So it's your primary residence, not just investing, this is going to be your primary residence.
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The thing that people are going to realize is that a property is an identifier.
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It says something about you and who you are in your successful life and where your station is
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and you've almost got to mitigate for those feelings to go, you care about that more than other
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people, you know, the suburb that you're in means more to you than anyone else.
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So, you know, starting to pick apart some of those emotions that sit there at the very outside
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so that you don't even go into an auction, so mostly invested that you've got a
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limit of, you know, 1.2 mls and you know, it's a two-way and because you're in the competition,
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you're in the room, it's mad at you, you have a bit of time pressure, but you know, you try
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into the navigate things and you get yourself in the trouble.
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I think time pressure in an auction is what works for the auction you,
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it works for the selling and you know, if you're much as possible even in an auction,
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you're trying to decrease that time pressure something up and expand it out.
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And the other thing is because you don't worry about loss, you know, if people can,
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the loss of a house can really hurt, you can almost grieve the loss of a house and you're not
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even owning it yet, but you're emotionally invested over two months as you walk to the house
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and you've got connected with the house and you're seeing your kids in the house and you've
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even visaged parties and what your life's going to be like in this future state and then to not
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get the auction, you get the strange sense of loss. Now, the interesting thing about loss and
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where a verse to watch, you know, this is loss of aversion. When you've experienced a loss,
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the very next thing you're about to do often means that you definitely will get a lot more risky
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in order to make up for the pain of that loss. So the next option you like to go to,
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you like that actually makes a forced decision. Beware the rebound property, right?
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Exactly. So this is a close loss of aversion. So I think just being aware of those things
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is good. I think you can often set up sort of how do you, you know, the emotional regulation
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or when it's there, but how do you slide our environment a little bit better? You know, one thing
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a lot of people do that know that they get caught up in the motion or an auction, have a friend
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or a trusted other, you know, that where they can bid on their behalf, where prior to the auction,
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they set up rules, simple rules, don't go over this amount, you know, if it's too, if the
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bidding is too fast, slow it down, you know, all of those sorts of rules in, you can think of
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beforehand because you're using your rational brain, your emotional reactive brain
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and get someone else to do that. We realize that you're not an expert, you're not doing this
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all the time, you know, yes, there are experts that do this week ending week out, but the expertise
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is very rarely on the buying, the selling side, right? On the buying, the selling side, you are not
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an expert, so you will be emotional and you will be open to bias because you don't have that expertise.
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Yeah, can I add to that, Phil, because I think if we along that line of thought, there's a couple
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of things where I can add Mike's lived experience, Ben and I've got something called the buyer's
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decision quadrant, which helps people understand that they will need to compromise. Most people in
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this country need to compromise in one of the four areas of price, location, size of the land,
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quality of the dwellers. So knowing that in advance actually helps you game and prepare your
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environment for success. Also, this one is a little philosophical, but it's the red light, green
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lights philosophy where I've done so many transactions over a career and buying it in my own portfolio
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that I know that life will throw us a red light or a green light and if you continually keep coming
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up against red lights, it probably wasn't meant to be. So the example for that is being so
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invested in an outcome on a piece of real estate for someone and they miss out, they're devastated,
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but it's only like two or three months later that we realize why they missed out and it's because
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the one that they actually bought was so much better, so much more appropriate, but at the time of
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missing out, we would not have even spout them that that was possible. So for me, it's like, don't
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push the river. If you've tried whatever you can to make it work and you got a red light,
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it was for a reason and the reason will reveal itself at some other stage. And then the third one for
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me is when you, because I agree with you, I've had people on the show that go, there's no way I'm
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going to buy a property that looks like a, b and or c and I take them to a property because the
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producers want me to take them there and it's got a, b or c and I'm thinking, oh, how am I going to
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get them to even consider walking through the property, let alone buying it? They go through,
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oh, this is amazing. This is the one I'm like, really? Wow, okay. So therefore my suggestion for
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gaming that is to realize the first time you go through a property, there's an emotional response,
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but then what I find is when I take them back the second time, all of a sudden they go, oh,
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actually, it's not a lot of storage in this property. And I'm not sure if the kids are actually
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going to be able to talk about the back here. And so therefore, they're actually gaming on the
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second look. So there's a couple of lived experiences through the property game that's sort of
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reinforced some of the things you're saying around setting yourself up to game your emotions.
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Yeah, simple rules, right? Our brains love simple rules. And if you can learn some simple rules
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that help guard our good decision-making and stick with them, then you're ahead. You're ahead.