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Want to know how your world is changing, and what it will be like to live in a future being built for you right now? Don’t be distracted by politics - it’s tech driving that change.

Karen Hao, Nicky Woolf and Tom Germain - three of the sharpest voices in tech - dive into the stories behind the headlines: AI breakthroughs, big-tech power, digital culture, cybersecurity, misinformation - and discover what's happening in the most bizarre corners of the internet.

Every week, the trio unpack the tech stories that matter: whether they shake governments, reshape industries, or quietly alter how we live, work and connect.

Informed, curious and clear-eyed, The Interface is your guide to understanding one of the defining stories of our time.

Launching Thursday 12 February on BBC Sounds in the UK - and wherever you get your podcasts.

The Interface is a BBC Studios Production. Producer: Natalia Rodriguez Ford Executive Editor: Philip Sellars

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Spend $250 on your first campaign on LinkedIn ads and get $250 credit for the next one. Just go to LinkedIn.com slash broadcast. That's LinkedIn.com slash broadcast, terms and conditions apply. Some of us love technology, some of us hate it, but you can't avoid it. Sometimes it feels like tech riggles its way into every part of your life, like a horrible little worm. The tech giants are quietly shaping our world, deciding how things will work all while distracting us with shiny new toys. But it's about time to look behind the screen and talk about what's actually happening. Welcome to the interface, the show that explores how tech is rewiring your week and your world. Okay, we're starting a podcast. What are we podcasting about guys? Should we tell people who we are? We should introduce ourselves. Yeah, probably. Tom, you are our BBC tech columnist. Your reporting has taken on some of the

biggest tech companies in the world. And you actually got Facebook to delete over a billion people's facial recognition data, right? Well, you know, I do my best. But we've also got Nikki here. Nikki, you've done some of the most acclaimed podcasts about life online and you're often wandering around in the weirdest neighborhoods of the internet. This is a weird neighborhood. This is we are creating a weird neighborhood. We're cleaning a weird neighborhood. And Karen, you wrote the defining book on AI. I'm packing it in a way that's occasionally terrifying, but reminding us we still always have to say. Well, my argument about technology is always been that every single part of our lives in one way or another, every part of world events is on some level of technology story. But I think what makes this stuff interesting to everyday people, even people who think that they don't care about technology is it is about your life. Yeah, I always find myself telling people that like what happens on the internet does not stay on the internet. 100%. And I think it's we're at a moment in time now where you simply cannot not know

about technology because it is in many ways the thing that defines our existence now. Still, boys, what are we going to be talking about each week? Well, it's questions like, is AI more accurate when you're nice to it? On certain kinds of math problems, the AI that they were using was more accurate when you asked it to pretend to be a Star Trek character. Is online betting changing the outcome of world events? This is a massive national security issue. Huge. Yeah, yeah. Are data centers in your hometown? And do we actually even leave them? These are facilities that are hundreds of acres. Will Nikki ever learn how to post on TikTok? I you've promised to teach me how to post on TikTok. I hope you are. And Will Tom, Bluetooth devices, ever faces biggest fear being bored. Karen, my life is already so hard. You want me to make myself bored? I don't even know how to do that anymore. Yeah, exactly. If you're in the UK, listen on BBC sounds and if you're outside the UK,

you can listen to us wherever you get your podcasts or search for the interface podcast on YouTube. You don't need AI agents, which may sound weird coming from service now, the leader in AI agents. The truth is AI agents need you. Sure, they'll process, predict, even get worked autonomously. But they don't dream, read a room, rally a team, and they certainly don't have shower thoughts, pivotal hallway chats or big ideas. People do. And people, when given the best AI platform, they're freed up to do the fulfilling work they want to do. To see how service now puts AI to work for people, visit servicenow.com.

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